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Speaker 1: Welcome back Happy Hour listeners, and another week here with

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Speaker 1: so much drama that went down, and we continue to

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Speaker 1: I think just like not even see love stories in

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Speaker 1: the show these days. It's all about the girls and

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Speaker 1: the cattiness, which Rachel. I want to take a second

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Speaker 1: to say, like, I don't even want to get into recaps.

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to get into like major moments

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Speaker 1: because I am right now so frustrated with what we

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Speaker 1: saw go down last time, Speak on It, Speak on It, Becca,

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Speaker 1: And I feel like this is the first time that

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Speaker 1: I've walked away from an episode being so disheartened, Like

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Speaker 1: I said, so frustrated. I just feel like I don't

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Speaker 1: like what I'm seeing. I like, I don't like the

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Speaker 1: fact that they're of course like this is about Sure,

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Speaker 1: I understand that there's going to be drama, but it's

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Speaker 1: getting nasty now, and it's getting to be just so

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Speaker 1: dirty between these women, with rumors circulating about somebody actually

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Speaker 1: being an sport that could ruin someone's life. And on

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Speaker 1: the flip side, we have and I don't even want

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Speaker 1: to talk about Victoria that much, but I she's leaving

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Speaker 1: such a bad taste in my mouth with all of

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Speaker 1: her name calling that. I'm like, why, I'm starting to

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Speaker 1: question now why ABC is choosing to show her continuously

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Speaker 1: call these women sluts and horrors and hose because like

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Speaker 1: this now, these words that people are seeing on the screen,

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Speaker 1: I think feeds this narrative of like having people other women,

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Speaker 1: other men, young people watching the show think that that's

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Speaker 1: okay to call women these names. And I'm so frustrated

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, it's more like, what kind of audience

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Speaker 1: are you trying to attract? Right when you're highlighting, when

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Speaker 1: this person has as much of a stage as the

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Speaker 1: lead itself, who are you trying to attract to your audience?

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Speaker 1: Is it? I'm confused. I don't even know who it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Becca, It's very frustrating to watch. There

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Speaker 1: seemed to be great women on Matt season. You know,

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Speaker 1: Matt's a great bachelor. Why are we giving Victoria's so

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Speaker 1: much airtime? And it's like the antics just keep getting

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Speaker 1: worse and worse. Like I swear to god, she would

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Speaker 1: have taken a crown off my head that boxing day

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Speaker 1: would have happened right there in that room, Like you

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Speaker 1: don't touch people like that. It's not funny. It's disrespectful

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Speaker 1: and I just I you know, when we started this,

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Speaker 1: we were like, we don't want to talk about her

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Speaker 1: that much, and I don't want to give her that much.

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Speaker 1: And what I do want our listeners to realize is

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Speaker 1: most people do seem to be feel the same way

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Speaker 1: about Victoria. We're all Katie in this situation, right like,

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Speaker 1: we're all frustrated. We I love that Katie's like, Matt,

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Speaker 1: I want you to approach the women like, take charge

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Speaker 1: and get control of this situation, because that is what

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Speaker 1: a Leeds should do. We don't want to see it anymore.

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Speaker 1: But what you need to notice about Victoria is she

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Speaker 1: can't handle people that are strong. I won't even know.

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Speaker 1: Let me not even give Victoria that Victoria is not

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Speaker 1: a strong person. A strong person does not bulldoze over

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Speaker 1: weaker people. They don't bully them, they don't take advantage

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Speaker 1: of them. That's not what a strong person is. That's

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Speaker 1: an insecure person. That is what we are seeing in Victoria.

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Speaker 1: It has gone beyond humor, it has gone beyond antics.

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Speaker 1: It's just downright mean. And I don't want to see it.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to see it. We don't want to

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Speaker 1: see it anymore. Like, I know, you guys can do

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Speaker 1: better than this. You can give us a better narrative.

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Speaker 1: There's more to see. Who cares if we have a

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Speaker 1: boring season this? It's not like we have Dear Bennett,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Who Yeah, his antics were ridiculous,

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Speaker 1: but he wasn't mean like that. You know it was

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Speaker 1: over the top. It was obnoxious. Sure, but this is

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Speaker 1: just hard and painful to watch. And honestly, you're not

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Speaker 1: doing Victoria any favors because she's becoming so hated. Whether

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Speaker 1: this is her true personality or not, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the most I love Katie approaching her,

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Speaker 1: or her trying to come to Katie and Katie shutting

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Speaker 1: it down. With Katie challenged her, Victoria had nothing to say. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to say, honestly, like like and I'm all

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Speaker 1: for somebody to like stir the pot and like give

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Speaker 1: us something. It has crossed the line. I am so

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Speaker 1: over Victoria. I am ready for her to be gone,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't want to see any more of her.

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Speaker 1: And I also want to reiterate the fact that like

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Speaker 1: words have weight and what you choose to how you

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Speaker 1: choose to describe or use adjectives to describe people has weight.

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Speaker 1: And when you continuously tear down other women for no

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Speaker 1: And we've seen it with well now the former leadership

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Speaker 1: that trickle down and they have this underlying effect that

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Speaker 1: ready for it to be gone. Like I've never walked

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Speaker 1: away from this show where I felt like just this

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Speaker 1: like sick feeling in my gut that i've right now

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Speaker 1: when I'm thinking about everything that I watched. Well, so

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Speaker 1: Victoria can go, Matt James, step up, see the bullshit

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Speaker 1: that's going on, and like and like you said, even

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Speaker 1: like he needs to take more initiative even when he's

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Speaker 1: getting interrupted by certain people, like he of course he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know how to navigate this because he hasn't done

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Speaker 1: it before, but like he's four weeks in and like

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Speaker 1: he just needs to stand his ground and step up

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Speaker 1: a little bit more a lot more. Yeah, we don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like come on, let's let's let's create a new narrative here,

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Speaker 1: Like we dealt with the mean Girls situation during Peter's season, like,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's let's bring us something new. We got,

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Speaker 1: we got more more than this. We can do better

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Speaker 1: than this, I mean. And hopefully we have a guest

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Speaker 1: on today which is Chelsea, who we are super excited

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Speaker 1: to talk about. She had a very very big moment

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Speaker 1: some insight on what it is that we're seeing because

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Speaker 1: she was right there for her in the mix of

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Speaker 1: all of this. And I don't, even, like you said,

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to spend too much time on

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Speaker 1: this recap. You know, the biggest thing I want to

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Speaker 1: highlight is the credits. That's honestly really what I what

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Speaker 1: I came here to talk about the credits. The credits.

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Speaker 1: Did she see the scene where she's um the dance scene? Yes,

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Speaker 1: you guys, I was like, happening, what has happened? This

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Speaker 1: is a sign of the times. Well, this is the

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Speaker 1: sign TikTok dance I am was a fucking TikTok dance.

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Speaker 1: I'm mad about it. I'm just as mad about that

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Speaker 1: dance as I am about Victorian her antics. Oh am gee,

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Speaker 1: now I get you trying to make Maggie feel comfortable.

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Speaker 1: I get that, you know, she said, she liked to dance.

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Speaker 1: You you thought, you know what, maybe I'll do a

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Speaker 1: little one two step boogie for her to get her

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Speaker 1: loosen up. To get her to loosen up, Matt said,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to dance. M I even know which TikTok

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a it was a rap song. But

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Speaker 1: when he proceeded to do every trendy move, what's the

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Speaker 1: sign of the time? What? What? What's wrong with us?

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Speaker 1: To you guys? The proper thing to do? And then

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Speaker 1: when he finished, when he finished, he goes, that's all

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Speaker 1: I got. That's all you got. But you know that's

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Speaker 1: and you were trying to court this woman, grab her

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Speaker 1: by the hand. That is exactly what I wrote down.

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Speaker 1: She said. She likes to dance the proper, the smooth,

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Speaker 1: let me pull you in close, and let's just dance

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Speaker 1: to the music that we hear in our heads. I'm

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Speaker 1: a tune you TikTok dance for her? If I were Maggie,

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Speaker 1: I would have yeah, it was was bad, or I

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Speaker 1: would have said, um, at this point, I would like

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Speaker 1: to eliminate myself in the competition. What And I feel

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Speaker 1: like production is trolling Matt, you should have never shown

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Speaker 1: us that never never. I am so upset by this moment.

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Speaker 1: I wish I would have stopped it when the episode

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Speaker 1: was over with it. I can't, I know, really, don't

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Speaker 1: even say something, Rachel, don't stop watching and I regret it. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't. I cannot wait for this. Oh, I am

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Speaker 1: so worried. What Van Leathan, my co host, is going

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Speaker 1: to say. I, Oh my gosh, Black Twitter is gonna

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Speaker 1: be so upset. All I'm gonna say is I thought

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Speaker 1: Colton was a bad dancer. I think, Matt James, you

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Speaker 1: may have. I could go on and on about this.

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Speaker 1: I was so upset. One other thing that I wanted

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Speaker 1: to touch on, Okay, two highlights and then we can

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Speaker 1: get going with our guests. Obviously, one was the conversation

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Speaker 1: with Chelsea and Matt about her hair. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: her on, so we'll get it from her first. But

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Speaker 1: another highlight that I want to touch on is the

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Speaker 1: fact that did you notice. Okay, so obviously five new

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Speaker 1: girls are brought in. One of those new girls got

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Speaker 1: a one on one day with Matt, which you know

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Speaker 1: caused the rift between the women. But on his one

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Speaker 1: on one day with Michelle, I feel like I saw

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen him have a connection quite like that,

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Speaker 1: finally start to see Okay, maybe he could see a

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Speaker 1: partner here. Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. He seems softer,

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Speaker 1: but not just in a physical way, like obviously there's

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Speaker 1: these other women have been there for three weeks. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: if I were the other woman in the house, I

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Speaker 1: I mean, she just came in here and made an

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Speaker 1: immediate impression on him. I like her, Well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I actually do like I hope we have her on

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Speaker 1: Minnesota girls. But I'm like with that, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think we should just get into it. Unless you had

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Speaker 1: any other highlights or anything that you wanted to get

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Speaker 1: off your chest. I feel like we've been for a

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Speaker 1: while there. No, oh no, you know what to say.

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Speaker 1: This moment takes me back to give it to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm just as angry as when we had Hannah Anne

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Speaker 1: on and you said, who's your dream person to have

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Speaker 1: on the show, and she said Addison Ray, who at

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Speaker 1: the time, I had no idea who that was. And

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Speaker 1: hole researched her. I couldn't believe that your dream guest

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Speaker 1: this an't this isn't like dancing with this like a

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Speaker 1: ticktotokn't even dancing with stars. But it's like it's not

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Speaker 1: a this isn't a dance show. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: somebody of a Have we even heard Awe to Ray

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Speaker 1: speak I don't. I don't believe we don't know her

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Speaker 1: past fifteen or thirty seconds. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: like so upset When I'm saying that ray was doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel about Matt, Do I get TikTok? I can't get over.

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Speaker 1: I closed my eyes and I see him dip. He

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Speaker 1: was so proud of himself. He was very proud. I

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Speaker 1: and their hair. Yeah, I think that as women, and

428
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: especially as Black women, like so much of our self

429
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: worth is tied to our hair. And I don't know

430
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: if a lot of people realize that or understand that,

431
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: especially as far as Black women go. And it was

432
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a really big deal to me.

433
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: So that's obviously something that I wanted to share with

434
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: somebody that I you know, I'm potentially going to end

435
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: up with my partner. And I just think also so

436
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: many people like I, like I said, I've watched the

437
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: show since I was younger, and there haven't been that

438
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: many black contestants or hasn't been a black bachelor lead.

439
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: Nobody's going on. They're talking about their hair journey, and

440
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: I think that some people might have hopefully they don't anymore,

441
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: but might see it as trivial because it's like, oh,

442
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 1: it's just hair, and like even for a while I

443
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: felt like that, like I felt like it wasn't important

444
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: enough for me to bring up like two people, or

445
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: it was it like, uh, big enough of an insecurity

446
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: to be like valid um, And then it wasn't until

447
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: I shaved it all, like I decided to shave it

448
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: off that I realized how important it was and how

449
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: much of an effect it had on me um, because

450
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: it was just such a librating experience to be like

451
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let that go. I'm there and I'm not.

452
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: I don't need hair to be feminine, I don't need

453
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: hair to beautiful. I don't even care to be like

454
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: attractive to men. Like it's just it was just such

455
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: a liberating thing. And now I feel like I just

456
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: feel it even more like myself, even though I've never

457
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: had a shaved head, but somehow I feel more like

458
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: myself without hair. So oh yeah, I'm tearing up. No,

459
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really it's it's such a They're gonna

460
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: be so many black women who are going to reach

461
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: out to you about being brave enough to have conversation

462
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: because for our listeners, what you don't understand with black

463
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: women in the pressure there's a lot of pressure for

464
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: us to fit a European, European standard of beauty, and

465
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: that means processing our hair, straightening our hair, wearing extensions,

466
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: wearing wigs. And we've been programmed for so long that

467
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: our natural beauty isn't beautiful, and it is. And here

468
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: you are, in your natural state, representing yourself as a

469
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: black woman and showing that that's beautiful and it is beautiful.

470
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: And I want you to talk a little bit too

471
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: about Matt's response to what you said, because I thought

472
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: it was great. Yeah, I mean when I was showing

473
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: him the pictures, he's like, I think he looked beautiful

474
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: both ways. Obviously a great thing for God to say,

475
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: but he was really receptive to it. And I feel like,

476
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: just based on our kind of upbringings, like I'm from

477
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: like a little suburb in Georgia and he's from like

478
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: somewhere Samoire in North Carolina, and we both grew up

479
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: in places that were predominantly white, Our schools were predominantly white.

480
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: So I just felt like it was nice to know

481
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: that he could relate. And he also said that he

482
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: like he used to have a furrow and he shaved

483
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: it off, and that people said that he was more

484
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: approachable afterwards. And it's just like even black men have

485
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: the same issues with when it comes to hair. Um.

486
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: But it was it was really nice. I loved his

487
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: free couldn't have gone better in my in my head,

488
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: I planned it. But yeah, like you said, I was

489
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: kind of like a little bit nervous to bring it up.

490
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: But and can I just good about it? And yes,

491
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: and and and for the listeners too. Why is also

492
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: probably scary for you to go in there and have

493
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: that conversation is because there is also I've experienced this.

494
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for you. I don't know

495
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: if you have, but where there are are a lot

496
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: of black men who put that pressure on you as

497
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: well to have your hair looking a certain way. And

498
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: so you might not have known how Matt was going

499
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: to respond to that, And he responded in the best way. Girl.

500
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: He opened eye kissed you, which is what you know?

501
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: I said after that conversation, I was like, if Chelsea

502
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: doesn't get this group day row, something's not added up here. Um.

503
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: Have you guys ever heard the song hair by Lady

504
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: Gaga where she's like, I'm as free as my hair, Ma,

505
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send it to you after because I feel

506
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: like this India Ari has has has the black version.

507
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: I am not my hair, Yes, yeah, just a moment. Well,

508
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: and I will say too, especially I mean, like, obviously

509
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: I'm a white woman. I grew up in a predominantly

510
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: small white town in Minnesota. And yeah, it wasn't I

511
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: think really until like getting to know Rachel better and

512
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: talking to you a little bit more about your hair

513
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: and how you changed it for different shows that I

514
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: think it's playing along to what you're saying is like,

515
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: it's such a good conversation to have for people who

516
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: don't even like know what women in general have to

517
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: go through, but then black women, like I hope that

518
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: anyone watching that conversation last night took something away, you know,

519
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: in a good way to be like, oh my gosh,

520
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about like how much you do

521
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: you know? Put into your hair and how it makes

522
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: you feel a certain way. So kudos to you. I

523
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: love that you say you feel more like yourself now,

524
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: Like that's just for any woman to say that. It's

525
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: such a beautiful thing. I want to know because obviously

526
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: that's a scary thing to share on a date with somebody.

527
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: You know, you probably don't lead on a first date

528
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: with that kind of conversation, let alone leading it on

529
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: national television in front of millions. Was there any part

530
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: of you, you know, obviously this was filmed a while back,

531
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: but knowing that it was going to air in this moment,

532
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: was there any part of you that was nervous or

533
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: hesitant or were you just like, this is me and

534
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: I own it and I can't wait to share this

535
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: with the world. Obviously. I mean I'm a little nervous

536
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: when any episode airs, just because I'm like, oh, I

537
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: don't know, But for this specific thing, I was really

538
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: excited for it to air, just because I feel like

539
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: I've gone through the emotional work already myself to get

540
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: to this point. So right now where I'm at, I'm

541
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: just like excited to celebrate it and like let other

542
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: people know about it. I'm not nervous about it anymore.

543
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: Like it's like I can't it's something I can hide.

544
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: I just walk around proudly. It's like, okay, here's my

545
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: shaved head. So I was more excited for everyone to

546
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: see it. And like I said, I used to watch

547
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: this show and like, I never imagine this conversation or

548
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: anyone being on here talking about it. So like all

549
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: the black girls at home, I can relate. I'm happy

550
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: that you know, it'll resonate with them. And then like

551
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: even everybody else, like my white friends are anybody that

552
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: just doesn't know. That's just like never had to think

553
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: about these things. Like I'm just happy that everyone can

554
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: see it. Can I ask you one more question? Because

555
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: I just had the vision and I'm such a I'm

556
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: such an animated person. I just had this vision that

557
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: she was just sitting in her room during quarantine, and like,

558
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: were you staring at yourself in the mirror and you

559
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: just took the scissors and you just did the big

560
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: chop or did you take the razor and you just

561
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: go back and then you were like, oh my god,

562
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: what did I do and I have to keep going?

563
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: Or did you just simply make an appointment and go

564
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: to the bar shot shake it off. I Okay, here's

565
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: what happens. I am really bad at doing my own hair,

566
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: so I've been going to the hair salon like every

567
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: two weeks for my lady that I trust now, so

568
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 1: I let her handle it. Quarantine happened. My hair salons closed,

569
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: I didn't have anyone to my hair, and I was

570
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: just like, you know what, forget this, I'm going to

571
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: shave it off. So I bought some cliff fers on

572
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: Amazon and I shaved it off my bathroom with my roommate.

573
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: With your roommate, yah, she also you should post pictures

574
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: of or maybe you already have and I might not know,

575
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, like that's that's awesome. Yeah, I love that

576
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: with the back and we shaved it off in the bathroom, so,

577
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I would have loved to see this. Yeah, pictures, video, footage,

578
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: whatever you have, please share with us because I'm sure

579
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: everyone love to check it out. So going back to

580
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: this conversation with Matt, obviously you said he responded in

581
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: the best way possible for that conversation, But what is

582
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: it in general that you're most attracted to with Matt?

583
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: I really like that Matt is super genuine. And I've

584
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: said this like to him and many times, but like

585
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: he just it doesn't matter who he's talking to or

586
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: like even when I saw some of his other relationships

587
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: with the other girls, Like it sounds weird to say,

588
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: but you could tell just like how genuine he was

589
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: and how present he always was. Like I'm sure as

590
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: you and Rachel both know how hard it is it

591
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: must be to be the lead, and he was just

592
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: always so president with each and every one of us

593
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: and like made us feel so great. So yeah, he

594
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: just seems authentic and genuine and present all the time.

595
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: And that's like something I don't take for granted. Ye

596
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: ask all the girls this, And we always talked about

597
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: him kissing with the eyes open? How is he as

598
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: a kisser? He was a good hisser. Everyone says he's good.

599
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: I just like want some dirty like juice one of

600
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: these days. I think with the general consensus he's a

601
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: good kisser. I'm just gonna stop asking this question. Okay,

602
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about some people who don't come across as genuine.

603
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: Since you said Matt is genuine, let's just take let's

604
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: take a sharp lest turn. So last week, Bachelor Nation

605
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: was up in arms and not about Matt, not specifically

606
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: about Sarah, but about the group of women in the

607
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: house except for Katie. People were teamed Katie. I have

608
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: usually received a lot of DMS about like mess like Rachel,

609
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: are you going to call this person out? Or Rachel,

610
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: shut your mouth, you talk too much. It's like one

611
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: extreme or the other. But I received a lot of

612
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: dms about bullying. Okay, that was the word, which is

613
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: another word people in fatination love to use a lot.

614
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: But the word was bullying and it was mainly in

615
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: reference to the conversation that the group of women had

616
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: with Sarah. It was like the house versus Sarah. You

617
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: were there, you were in the middle of it. I

618
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: would love to hear your take on what happened. I mean,

619
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how long that conversation was. And I'll

620
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: be honest, it looked bad. It looked really bad. Yeah,

621
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it obviously was a longer conversation and situation

622
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: than was shown. I mean two hour episode that it

623
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: was days of of what am I trying to say?

624
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: It was days of conversations that happened, and it was

625
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: all shown in like a ten minute couch combo. I

626
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: think that bullying is not a word that people should

627
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: be using so lightly. I don't think that's what was

628
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: happening personally from where I was sitting. I think it

629
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: was more of the rest of the house trying to

630
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: figure out what was going on from Sarah. And you know,

631
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: we obviously weren't aware of the conversation that she had

632
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: with Sarah. I mean with Katie upstairs, we only knew

633
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: about her interrupting the group date in her feeling like

634
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: she needed to talk to Matt. So it was more

635
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: of us trying to get information. I can't speak for

636
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: any of the other girls, but that's where I was

637
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: coming from with it. Did anyone other than Katie try

638
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: at any point in that week when they kind of knew,

639
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, Sarah was in her head and hiding in

640
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: her room and potentially wanting to go home? Yeh, Did

641
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: anyone else try to approach her and have a conversation,

642
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: Because I think for the viewers and at least for

643
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: me personally, it was really I think the part that

644
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: was hard to swallow was that it felt like one

645
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: against everybody. Yeah, and we did see the conversation with

646
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: Katie private separate, which I wish that more girls would

647
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: have done, and maybe we just weren't privy to that.

648
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: But did anyone else try to pull her aside or

649
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: have a conversation with her? I actually don't know the

650
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: answer that. I wasn't really super close with Sarah, so

651
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: I personally didn't speak to her individually, but there might

652
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: have been another girls I did. But it definitely it

653
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't malicious. It didn't I know, it didn't

654
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: come off looking still great TV. It never does when

655
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: it's a group against one person. But it wasn't an attack.

656
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: We were very much trying to attack the problem and

657
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: not the person. Yeah, And I mean Sarah's a crier, right,

658
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: so like it's hard to when all those people are

659
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: saying something and then she's crying, and you know, it's

660
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: just the whole presentation. Just look off and listen. I'm

661
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: no stranger to calling people out myself. I just think

662
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: it was more of like, you know, maybe if people

663
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: pulled her to the side, And I think maybe what

664
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: was the nell and the coffin was what's the blonde,

665
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: curly haired girl's name, j MJ? And I think what

666
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: the Nell and the coffin was was when MJ when

667
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: she tried to pull if Ja to the side. MJ

668
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: was like, nah, I think the second and it was like,

669
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: oh gosh, that was it for her. She didn't have

670
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: anybody left. I mean, I guess she thought MJ was

671
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: her one friend. MJ was like, nah, not today, not today, Sarah.

672
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: But okay, and I think and I want to kind

673
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: of stay along this theme of like what I have

674
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: written down in my notes as the mean girl mob. Okay,

675
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: not saying that you're a mean girl, just there just

676
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: seems to be it's not you, okay, So I just

677
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: want to be particular. It just seems that that is

678
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: the theme that is trying to or the narrative that

679
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: is trying to be pushed here. Okay, I'm not calling

680
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: you out. It just seems like there's like and we

681
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: saw during Peter season two. I don't know if this

682
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: is something new. I don't like it if it is,

683
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: because all of Peter's girls seem to get along quite well,

684
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: but we saw that there was like this mob of

685
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: mean girls, and it seems like here we are getting

686
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: the same thing again. And so obviously the drama didn't

687
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: end last week, once Sarah left, we see a new

688
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: crop of girls come in. There's so much drama, truly

689
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: that went down last night between what I guess everyone's

690
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: calling like the Ogs or the Varsity squad versus the

691
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: new Girls. And for you, you seem like you're still

692
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: a bit removed from the drama. You know, like there

693
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: are there are a few people in the show who

694
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: are like very much stirring the pot, who are in

695
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: the drama, causing the drama, like name calling. You don't

696
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: happen to be one of them. But of course, like

697
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: you are part of the OG group. You've been there

698
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: since night one. And so what were your thoughts when

699
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: every when everything went down when the new girls came in,

700
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: and then the rumor also that was circulating about Brittany

701
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: once she was there. Yeah, so when the new girls came,

702
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: I was like if the first thought was, wow, what

703
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: we did already have a rose? Yeah, girl was kind

704
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: of just like you could just get back sick that

705
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: dirty martini swirling if you wanted to. I was very

706
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: very happy that I had a rose at that time. Um,

707
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: but obviously, I mean, just my character, I'm not somebody

708
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: who tries to insert myself in drama. I'm very much like,

709
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: do you I'm going to worry about myself. So when

710
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: the new girls came, I'm kind of like they they

711
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: didn't choose this. I think if they had chosen, they

712
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: probably would have wanted to come at the same time

713
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: as us. So I had no issues with them. I

714
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: wasn't holding anything against them. I was kind of just like, hey,

715
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm Chelsea, like welcome, yeah, And that was my say.

716
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not like I can't control it. I'm

717
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: not going to be upset about it. I'm just gonna

718
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: keep trying to focus on myself in my relationship with Matt.

719
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: So there does oh do you want to follow? Keep

720
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: going rich? Sorry? So there does seem to be this

721
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: this narrative, this ongoing narrative that they are a bunch

722
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: of mean girls, which I've noted as the mean girl mom.

723
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: Not saying you're a part you are a mean girl.

724
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: It's just we saw it last year with Peter season.

725
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: Now we're seeing it again in Matt's season, and um,

726
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, as viewers, people aren't really a fan

727
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: of it. You know, people don't really want to see

728
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: that because the beauty of part of this journey is

729
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: also the friendships that you have. I get it, Um,

730
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: if I had been in one of the Originals and

731
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,479
Speaker 1: I saw New Girls. Aunt, that's tough. That's paradise. Okay,

732
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: you sign up for that in Paradise. You'll sign up

733
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: for that on the bathslip. So it's it's tough. It's

734
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: tough to see. By the way, if you're friends with Hannah,

735
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: please let her know that o G stands for Original

736
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Gangster and not Original Girls, which is what she said.

737
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: I said, Oh God, somebody get Hannah. Oh jeez, get

738
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: away Anna, Hanna. I was like, who's Hannah. See? I

739
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna stick with Hannah because she said original girls.

740
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: She she got that wrong. I'm gonna get Anna. Excuse me,

741
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: no apologies, Anna, Anna Anna. Um. There's this there's this

742
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: scene where it's you guys are on the nighttime portion

743
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: of a group day, and it seems like m J

744
00:40:53,640 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: and um is it just Senia? Yeah, MJ, Justinia, you

745
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: Katie are all sitting there and you're talking about Piper

746
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: as well, and you're talking about the women who are

747
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: the new the new Girls, and you're kind of like laughing,

748
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: and the girls are, you know, like MJ's kind of

749
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, we're the varsity and they're them

750
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: and you're laughing, and it just paints this whole narrative

751
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: of like this mean girls, and I just like maybe

752
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: want you to give some context behind what it was

753
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: we were watching in that scene, because it was tough.

754
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: It plays into this narrative that we're seeing on Matt's season. Yeah,

755
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a fan of the narrative either,

756
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: and I really don't think it's accurate. I think what

757
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: you're seeing and what everyone's seeing is just us trying

758
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: to process what's happening. Like this isn't the day after

759
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: we got there and there's new girls coming in, Like

760
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: we've already formed relationships with Matt, we've already formed relationships

761
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: with each other. It's also just a lot just being

762
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: in this isolated, you know, bubble. You don't have your friends,

763
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: you're on your family, Like there's a lot going on,

764
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: and we were just we're just talking to each other

765
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: like about new girls are coming. You know, It's it's

766
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: like a I don't know, I don't want to say

767
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: a threat, but it's just like it just it just

768
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: it was defeating because it felt like we we're going somewhere,

769
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're moving along, We're getting a little bit

770
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: more time to spend with Matt, there's less girls, row

771
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: ceremonies are happening, and then it just felt like five

772
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: steps back because it's like, Okay, people that we had

773
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: been with since the beginning went home last week, and

774
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: then now we have five more. So it was just

775
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: it was just a lot What did you think about

776
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: Katie's point though, because obviously Katie was taking it the

777
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: way that the audience sees it, and Katie kind of

778
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: stands up to you guys and it is like listen,

779
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, but they are here, so we all kind

780
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: of have to get along. And it almost makes you think, like, well,

781
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: how would you feel it's not those girls fault that

782
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: they had to stay longer. You know, I'm sure they

783
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: would have loved to have been there the first night.

784
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: You know, they're kind of at a disadvantage coming in,

785
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, not as the beginning, not knowing what you

786
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: guys have was Matt. So what did you think about

787
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: what Katie had to say in that moment, because she

788
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: seemed to be the only one thinking that, Yeah, I mean,

789
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: I don't think she was the only one thinking that.

790
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: I think that that was kind of where I stood

791
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: as well. Like I wasn't holding anything against the new girls.

792
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: I tried to be as welcoming as I could. I

793
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: understood that this wasn't a situation that they wanted to

794
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: be in. They didn't choose it. And again, I was

795
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: just trying to like focus on my relationship with Matt

796
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: what I could control, and you know, I wasn't. I

797
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: didn't go I went out of my way to be

798
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: nice to them because I'm yeah, I didn't. I didn't

799
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: want them to feel ostracized, like I put myself in

800
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: their shoes, and I'm like, if I came in, it's

801
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: just no matter how confident you are, it's hard. It's

802
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: just tough to come into a group of women and

803
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I'm here and everyone hates me. Like

804
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: it's just it's hard to do. So I tried to

805
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: be like, I'm like, you guys can talk to me whenever,

806
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: like I'm not yes, I was here first, but I'm

807
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: not like somebody that you can't. I'm not ripping somebody's

808
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: crown off their head, right, which is which is a

809
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: simple assault. Legally, it's the definition of a simple assault.

810
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: I just want to put that out there, which I

811
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: get into and and I would ask anyone that we

812
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: had any guests on UM on the podcast, but obviously

813
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: we have you this week, Victoria. And I've said a

814
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: lot about her in my recap with Rachel Priority coming on.

815
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: But Victoria at this point, like it's not even entertaining.

816
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: She's not funny to me, she's not enjoyable to watch.

817
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts on her, But it seemed

818
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: like from what we saw, Katie was the only one

819
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: who had ever called her out and stood up to

820
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: her and said anything like but watch all of this

821
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: go down, and her behavior just like continuously tears women

822
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: down over and over in her actions in her words,

823
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: Like did anyone else other than Katie stand up and

824
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: say like, hey, you're in the wrong, or you shouldn't

825
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: say this, you shouldn't be doing this, like look at

826
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: it from a different way. Did anyone else call Victoria

827
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: out on any of her bullshit? Yeah, it wasn't just Katie.

828
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: Like if Victoria said anything to me or to I

829
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: don't know any any of us that we didn't feel

830
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: was cool, Like I had no problem calling her out,

831
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: which the girls. Yeah, it just it wasn't. I don't know.

832
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: I think maybe she didn't specifically come for certain people

833
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: that she knew absolutely back, Yeah, I mean absolutely, like

834
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: she didn't come for me because she knew that probably

835
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: wasn't a good idea, absolutely knell on the head. She

836
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: goes after who she can she can bulldoze over of

837
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: a mean girl in high school. Yeah, I don't. I

838
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: mean I personally, I have no problem with Victoria. First, like,

839
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: I don't agree with many things that she said and done,

840
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't think she's a bad person.

841
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: I think she just she answer. She is a lot

842
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: to say about her pedal savement. So last week, though,

843
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: we had Katie on the podcast and we played a

844
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: little game with her, and she had mentioned that you

845
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: were actually one of the funniest people that she knew

846
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: in the house. And so, how did you manage, like,

847
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: throughout all of this craziness and the drama and the

848
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: new girls coming and people going, and the tears and

849
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: the name calling, how did you manage to still stay positive,

850
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: still have this funny attitude in such a stressful environment.

851
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: And how did you manage to you know, like you,

852
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean you say you don't want to get involved

853
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: in other people's business, but still stay out of that

854
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: drama because I feel like it's like right now just

855
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: this black hole sucking everyone in. I mean, I have

856
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: always been such a girls girl, Like I wasn't in

857
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: a sorority or anything, but like my girlfriends that I

858
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: have from high school and college are like the world

859
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: to me. So I was just I love hanging out

860
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: with other amazing, beautiful, strong, powerful women. So I was

861
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: just kind of focusing on that and like us spending

862
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: time together and we weren't on dates and stuff and

863
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: just like building out friendships. And then I was journaling

864
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: a lot to get all my feelings out stay sane.

865
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's I don't know, I'd like to consider

866
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: myself a decently positive person. So I was kind of

867
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: just trying to focus on myself, trying to stay away

868
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: from the crazy drama. I knew it's kind of like

869
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: it'll pass, So that was my mind. That's so good

870
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: to hear. Did you really crazy in the hotel? Like?

871
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: Were you guys allowed to go outside and take walks

872
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: and be in nature and get fresh air? The actual

873
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: house that we were staying out was so beautiful and

874
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: like I don't think they've show in the backyard too much,

875
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: but it was just like a huge pool on a

876
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: JACUZI and like we could walk a little bit um

877
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: and then just the scenery with it being like fall

878
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, like it was stunning. Um. So I however,

879
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: I felt like too crazy, I would just go for

880
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: a walkout died or something. Um, But it wasn't It

881
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: wasn't too bad, I think. I mean, I heard the

882
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: Bachtlor mansion it's a little more tight. So I was

883
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: grateful for what we had. Baschlor mansion sucks, don't You

884
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: don't think you missed anything by being by not saying

885
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: the Bachelor mansion. It's just a regular old dishwater doesn't work.

886
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: That doesn't work. You're going apart. I would have rather

887
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: been at Nimicolon. Yeah, it was beautiful, but then I

888
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: would have wanted to leave though and try that. I'm sorry.

889
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: I ought to get to experience that. I am glad

890
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: to hear that you guys got along. That's nice to hear.

891
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: We had an Abigail on the show and she said

892
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: you guys were friends, so It's nice that there is

893
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: a friend group because I was gonna say, are y'all

894
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: even friends? Do you follow each other? Is the group chat?

895
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: Does the group chat even exist? He doesn't do y'all

896
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: have a group chat? Okay, She's gonna say, well, we

897
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: know you do. We talk about it all the time

898
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: on the podcast chat. Yeah, we know you do. There's

899
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: no shame in that. Who are you? I adore some

900
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: of the girls. Who who Who were you closest with?

901
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: And who did your room with? So Eleana was my

902
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: roommate and she went at the second Roost ceremony, so

903
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: that was excited to see her go um and then

904
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: Piper Serena, see Abigail, that's who I was like? Three

905
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: who I was like closest within the house? And Rachel?

906
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: I love Rachel too. Them all that's good. I mean, listen,

907
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: we love to see it. How do you think you

908
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: would have done on the boxing day? Uh? I wait?

909
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: I was were you on the back to day? Did

910
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: you hear somebody? No, my partner decided to take in me.

911
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: Who was your partner? Was? Who was that? MJ? All

912
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: that talking MJ's doing and she don't have any hands

913
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: to back it up, she's like bark and noa I'm surprised,

914
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she does not believe in fighting. Honestly,

915
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: Like the date, we were all kind of uncomfortable with

916
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: the date because it's like just the idea of it, Like, Okay,

917
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of women are gonna go fight over a

918
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: guy like that was kind of like to me, y'all

919
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: do that every day. That's what Y'll sign up for

920
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: fighting every day. Not every day, but like basically hating

921
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: people and the like over I just it was but um, yeah,

922
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: I m J decided she didn't want to fight, and

923
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: I was the one she was supposed to fight someone

924
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: by default items fight either. Were you happy about were

925
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: you ready to get some aggression out? No? I was

926
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: not that I didn't want to fight. I'm not a fighter. Yeah,

927
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: who got next? I have somebody. But I'm surprised that

928
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: they didn't. Like I thought that the production some way,

929
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: somehow was going to pit the ogs as you guys

930
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: call themselves ourselves with the new girls like, which I'm

931
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: glad they didn't because that would think that would have

932
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: ended terribly, like terribly somebody would have been going to

933
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: the hospital. But um, but yeah, I'm surprised. I feel

934
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: like they're pulling out all the stops in this season,

935
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: so it's like I feel like that would have been fitting. Um,

936
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: so so far, what are we in week four? I

937
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: want to say, what are you without giving too much

938
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: away but still giving us some sort of tea. What

939
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: are you most excited for the audience to still see

940
00:51:53,840 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: the season? Um? I mean I'm like, as someone who

941
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: has been previously in the audience, like I love for

942
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: people to see the love stories. Like I'm excited for

943
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: the audience to stop seeing the drama, for that to

944
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: go away and people to actually get to see us

945
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: having conversations with Matt and us having good conversations with

946
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: each other. Like I want people to see the Roman.

947
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: We want that too, so bad. We want the love story,

948
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: not the drama. Yeah, I live for it absolutely. Um. Okay,

949
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: we're down to our last question, which I this is

950
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: Becca's question, so I always passed the baton to her

951
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: to ask, Well, I think bad do you ever want

952
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: to ask it? You? No? Like? Like, no, It's like Becca,

953
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: it's really cute, and Becca, you came up with it,

954
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: at least in my mind, you came up with it.

955
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: So I'm always like, Becca, ask your question. I actually did,

956
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: but I'm giving it to you. Answer, well, yes, Chelsea.

957
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: We always ask every guest that we have on what

958
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: was your rose and what was your thorns thus far

959
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: in this season, So basically your highlight and your low

960
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: light that we've seen or maybe that we haven't seen

961
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: that you that you just really enjoyed or hated a

962
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 1: summer thorn. I think that would be the first group

963
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: date with the wedding dresses and the capture the heart,

964
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: because I was already so uncomfortable, Like obviously I've never

965
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: been on a date with that many people before. It

966
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: was like the biggest group date in Bachelor history. So

967
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: I was just super uncomfortable all around. I'm not like

968
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: a person who goes out of their way to try

969
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: to like stand out when there's a bunch of other

970
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: big personalities in the room. Like my mentality is kind

971
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: of like, okay, well if you want me, like I'm here,

972
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like be extra and try to get

973
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: somebody's attention. So I was just super uncomfortable. And then

974
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: we had to go in the woods and it was

975
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: so cold, and then my team lost, so we didn't

976
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: get to get time with Matt, So that was that

977
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: was a rough one. That was thorn um. And then

978
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: my rose would be getting the group date Rose like,

979
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: that was a great date. And then I loved having

980
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: my conversation with Matt and you know, getting the validation

981
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: and getting that open eyed kiss. Yeah, girl, that's how

982
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: you know he's stilled the deal. That's how you know, Chelsea.

983
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: It's been so great to talk to you. I mean,

984
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: we we were definitely on the top of our list,

985
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: one of our favorites. Um and you're just as great,

986
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: if not even better in person. So thank you so

987
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: much for stopping by Bachelor Happy Hour. We can't wait

988
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: to see what else happens the season. How far you

989
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: go not looking forward to the drama? Or are you

990
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: friends with the escort? What escort? I was just trying

991
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: to slide that in there. You know, I made his

992
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: this is it? It's crazy for her, absolutely doesn't it's

993
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: even if it's true, don't bring that up, you know

994
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, it's it is so outrageous. I

995
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: don't even care if it's true. It's just like, wow,

996
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: if that was a rumor that was started about me,

997
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: and please give perspective on this, Chelsea, because you were

998
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: right there. If that's a rumor that was started about me,

999
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: how do you get past that? Do you know what

1000
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean? Like the moment those words are spoken, you

1001
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: know if that is going to be your entire narrative,

1002
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: even before the show is aired, you know that that's

1003
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: going to happen. Chelsea with the inside scoop from inside

1004
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: nimicolon what happened, I mean, it was definitely a tough

1005
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: spot to be in, especially when you know Brittany had

1006
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: just gone into the house. There was already og versus whatever,

1007
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: a drama, and then she got that thrown into the

1008
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: mix too, So I don't envy her. It was. It

1009
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: was a hard place to be but yeah she hands

1010
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: it like a champ. Yeah she handled it. But I

1011
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 1: don't know what was harder, waiting and quarantine those extra

1012
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: days only to go home then at the roast ceremony

1013
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: that night, or what happened to Brittany. That's her name, right, Brittany. Well, Britta,

1014
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: definitely Brittany because now it's going to stick with her

1015
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: for the rest of her life. And let's be honest,

1016
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation fans and people like who are so into

1017
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: the show, like that's all they're going to remember her as.

1018
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: And it's so sad. It's like that should not have

1019
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: been any sort of storyline in my mind, like that

1020
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't have even been here at all. But um, I

1021
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: guess we'll just have to wait and see next week

1022
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: what happens with that. But yes, Chelsea, it has been

1023
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure having you on. Thank you for joining

1024
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: us at Bachelor Happy Hour. Hopefully we can have you

1025
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: back one day. Yeah, I'm so happy I got to

1026
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: be here and talk to you. Oh Chelsea, I like

1027
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: her and I'm glad, like I feel like she's not

1028
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: somebody that we're getting to see a ton of up

1029
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: until this, you know, last night's episode. So I'm glad

1030
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: that we can have her on and pick her brain

1031
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: more about what actually went down because there was so

1032
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: much and to get an inside scoop. And I'm really

1033
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: glad with the fact that she can confirm that, like

1034
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: the girls for the most parts, still all get along

1035
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: and the drama can hopefully be left in the past. Yeah,

1036
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see it. Sounds like there's a lot

1037
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: more to come. It seems like Chelsea stays out of

1038
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: the drama, which is probably why we haven't seen her

1039
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: up until now, and she had this big conversation with Matt,

1040
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, she was. She was good about not giving

1041
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: us too much. So like the rest of you, we're

1042
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: just gonna have to stay tuned and watch. Yes, I

1043
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what keeps happening. I mean, it's

1044
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: been a crazy season so far. So thank you guys

1045
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: once again for hanging out with us. We'll keep these

1046
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 1: recaps and also keep these amazing guests coming. So keep

1047
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: watching Matt season with us. Right to us, let us

1048
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: know what you want us to cover, who maybe you

1049
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: want us to be chatting with next. You can always

1050
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: find us at Boucheler Happy Hour on Instagram and at

1051
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: Badge Happy Hour on Facebook and Twitter. All right, guys,

1052
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: we have grocery store Joe on here to tell us

1053
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: what we can expect to hear on Clickbait this week.

1054
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: Thanks again, Becca, we have a great new episode of

1055
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,600
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1057
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