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Speaker 1: We've commonly talked about how fun the Scream episode was

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Speaker 1: was for good reason. Those around this episode often consider

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Speaker 1: it an a toeur piece. First from the writer Jeff Manel,

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Speaker 1: I just can't say thank you both of you for

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Speaker 1: chiming in as a lifelong lover of horror and a

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Speaker 1: fan of the nineties Slasher come Back. And secondly from

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Speaker 1: our guest today, a director who wanted to make sure

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Speaker 1: value for a cinematic tribute and a very famous guest star.

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Speaker 1: This week we welcome back the director of Season five's

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Speaker 1: beloved and then there was Sean our captain, Oh, captain

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Speaker 1: Jeff McCracken.

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Speaker 2: Can we do the whole interview in a Scottish accent?

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Speaker 1: No, you can't.

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Speaker 3: All three it's.

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Speaker 1: Are you not going to turn on your camera? Are

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Speaker 1: you naked? Naked? I'm warning all all of us right

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Speaker 1: now before we jump into the episode. I am warning

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Speaker 2: But I first to I feel like I'm game show

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Speaker 1: I want to ask right off the bat. We've already

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Speaker 1: gotten a lot of listener's opinions already, but I want

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Speaker 1: to know for you is. And then there was Sean,

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Speaker 1: your favorite episode of Boy Meets World or no, Well,

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Speaker 3: Of the top. I mean, it just was just my

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Speaker 3: because I was laughing over everyone's lines. It was so

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Speaker 1: I had so much fun rewatching it again. It's maybe

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Speaker 1: different events. Watching it again one, I've never seen an

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Speaker 1: because I could see it becoming. I love it so much.

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Speaker 1: It's so much fun. But your direction was so great.

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Speaker 1: The way we did things, the way the blocking was

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Speaker 4: Suicide falling off a ledge where we were like clearly

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Speaker 3: No, Yeah, okay, cool, all right, Well I'm curious to

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Speaker 4: So you were doing it and you wish so you

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Speaker 3: That's so interesting. I had only our guys were not

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Speaker 1: Did you have any specific horror film inspirations and what

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Speaker 3: Well he wrote, he kind of put it right in there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, four moments within our collective memory,

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Speaker 1: We all have we are so sorry.

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Speaker 3: and we always thought, how are we going to get

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Speaker 3: him to die? You know, And and so we came

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Speaker 3: up with the scissors, and.

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Speaker 1: We talked about how he did that over and over again,

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Speaker 1: had those kneepads on and fell to his knees and

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Speaker 1: then fell flat on his face over and over again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well he had a cushion.

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Speaker 1: No, no, it was on his face.

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Speaker 2: We gave him a little soft flash, but it was.

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Speaker 2: He nailed it every time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so so good. Now, looking back, do

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Speaker 1: you think during the week you thought at all about

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Speaker 1: how whether or not you thought this was going to

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Speaker 1: be a popular episode, Like did you were you thinking like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the audience is going to love this, or were you

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Speaker 1: not thinking at all about the audience?

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Speaker 3: So I loved it. If I pulled off what I saw,

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Speaker 3: I knew was going to be great, you know, some

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Speaker 3: one of those things where if I can just pull

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Speaker 3: this off, I know that I will be honoring Jeff's script,

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Speaker 3: and I know in the cast, and I know I

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Speaker 3: know it will live and breathe on its own. That's

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Speaker 3: I knew that much because I when they and when

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Speaker 3: they said we have Jennifer Love hewittt and and I

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Speaker 3: saw the janitor and and I saw this sets, and

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Speaker 3: I saw everything was coming together. I went, this is

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Speaker 3: gonna be great. This is just gonna this is gonna

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Speaker 3: I just can't mess it up.

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Speaker 1: Now, Well you didn't, you get you did? We tried

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Speaker 1: what we did?

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Speaker 4: Isn't Isn't it crazy? The way that we watch this,

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Speaker 4: which I mean, like I know that this is in

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Speaker 4: part the the experience of just doing this podcast, but

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Speaker 4: for this episode in particular, it's so extreme to me

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Speaker 4: that on one level, it's just a funny episode of television.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just so brilliant.

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Speaker 4: The jokes are the best Boy met World has ever

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Speaker 4: been in terms of just last per second. And then

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Speaker 4: it's also like a family photo album, you know, that

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Speaker 4: has this like feeling. It puts me right back there

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Speaker 4: where I'm like, oh my god, and I have all

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Speaker 4: the memories of the entire of every scene and every beat,

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Speaker 4: so it's like it's so layered and rich and just

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Speaker 4: it's like one of the greatest documents to have in

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Speaker 4: my life. Like I I'm going to cherish this till

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Speaker 4: the day I die. I'm going to watch this over

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Speaker 4: and over, and it feels it's that doubled experience that

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Speaker 4: is wonderful on both levels. On all these levels, it's

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Speaker 4: so great.

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Speaker 6: This also just showed it showed how our show never

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Speaker 6: got the recognition it deserved because being such a television fan,

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Speaker 6: I would put this up there with one of the

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Speaker 6: best episodes of television ever. And maybe it's in its

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Speaker 6: own sub genre because it's a kids show or it's

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Speaker 6: for younger people, but.

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Speaker 2: It is just a great episode of television. It really is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: very proud of this.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you hardly.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jeff, I hope you will accept our thirty year

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Speaker 1: later apology.

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Speaker 2: Danielle's very sorry for you.

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Speaker 1: Really feel very sad, you know, because the memory I

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Speaker 1: remember more than anything is that last line that he

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Speaker 1: said to us, let us let me know when you're

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Speaker 1: ready to have and then watching his very long limbs

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Speaker 1: storm off on the set and hearing the stage door

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Speaker 1: open and he left the stage. I'm going to lead,

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Speaker 1: And the second he was out of my eyesight, I

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Speaker 1: burst into laughter, and we allo started laughing because it

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Speaker 1: was like we were so in giggle mindset and and

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Speaker 1: we had never seen you lose your cool period, not

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Speaker 1: even just not with us ever. Ever, you were the

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Speaker 1: most composed, And it would make so much sense that it.

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Speaker 4: Was that line because that's the one line we couldn't

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Speaker 4: break on, because we could have broken on a lot

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Speaker 4: of the other joke lines.

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Speaker 1: Guys, we got to get this serious.

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Speaker 4: Corey has to be saying, we got to get the serious.

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Speaker 4: You can't have him laughing through that.

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Speaker 3: And he was laughing. He could not hold it together.

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Speaker 3: He would go, you know, he would come in and

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Speaker 3: do this, we got the Syrian and that would be like, okay,

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Speaker 3: let's do it again.

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Speaker 1: Well it is. It is truly of all the episodes

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Speaker 1: we did of the show, I think it's the only

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Speaker 1: one I would say is a core memory for me.

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Speaker 1: This episode, this week, these moments are just core memories that,

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Speaker 1: like writers said, have are like a family photo album,

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Speaker 1: and I'll carry them with me for the rest of

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Speaker 1: my life. I love it more than anything. It's the

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Speaker 1: reason why in every live show or in every Q

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Speaker 1: and A we've ever done, people say, what are your

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Speaker 1: favorite episodes? It's the reason why we go to this one.

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Speaker 1: It's not because it's the one that is our favorite

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Speaker 1: storyline for any particular character. It's because this week making

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Speaker 1: this show us as a group, it just felt so right,

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Speaker 1: and we never got to do this with all of

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Speaker 1: us together, even though we were like hurting cats was

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Speaker 1: it was really bonding and memory building for all of us.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for being our captain, Oh captain mister

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Speaker 1: Jeff McCracken. Yes, we love you, We always love you.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to you again. This felt

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Speaker 1: like a blip. We could talk for another three hours,

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Speaker 1: but we will let you go. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: here with us.

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Speaker 3: And we will love you. I love you, Jeff, Thank

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Speaker 3: you all of you guys.

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Speaker 1: By bye. We don't ever have enough time with him.

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Speaker 6: And now no, we just talk to him forever about

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Speaker 6: But it's also he's just such an interesting human being

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Speaker 6: and so engaging that even if we don't talk to

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Speaker 6: him about boy meets Throw, we talked about something he

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Speaker 6: did in his career, you're as engaged as you would

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Speaker 6: be even if you're talking about this.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, he's one of those guys I could.

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Speaker 1: Talk probably listen to him talk about dust and find

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Speaker 1: it fascinating.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and getting him to yell and walk off the

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Speaker 6: set is the equivalent of getting Gandhi to yell in

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Speaker 6: your face and walk on, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: where it's like, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Gandhi just screamed in my face.

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Speaker 4: Kind of an accomplishment.

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Speaker 6: Then proud, Oh it's so funny.

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Speaker 3: That's the line.

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Speaker 4: Let's flip this, let's flip this.

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Speaker 3: We do something.

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Speaker 1: I'm proud, something amazing. Thank you all for joining us

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Speaker 1: for this episode of Pod meets World as always. You

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Speaker 1: can follow us on Instagram pod Meets World Show. You

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. And we have merch.

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Speaker 2: Let me know when you want to merch. I knew

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Speaker 2: it was coming.

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Speaker 1: Oh, just the absolute best.

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Speaker 4: Was he mad?

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Speaker 1: Was he mad? Did we make him mad?

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Speaker 3: We make him mad?

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Speaker 6: So good?

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Speaker 2: That was great.

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Speaker 1: Podmeetsworldshow dot com writer send us out.

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Speaker 3: We love you all, pod dismissed.

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