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Speaker 1: It is a Football Friday Week five edition and the

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Speaker 1: debut of the black Alternate uniforms. Welcome Bird Gang. On

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Speaker 1: today's show, Zach Gershman joins me, looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: the new uniforms on Sunday, also looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: a Cardinals win over the Bengals based on each team's

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Speaker 1: first four games. Yeah, the Cardinals have looked like the

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Speaker 1: better team. Let's break it all down. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode six eighty two, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Wood to Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 2: What rent?

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Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He's a a ten half of five? He's it again?

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Speaker 1: So far hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Grioloud.

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Speaker 1: So you a uniform guy?

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Speaker 3: I love uniforms.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you're really looking forward to Sunday? All black

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Speaker 1: uniforms slipped in the switch look good, feel good, play

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Speaker 1: good and fitting that you say that because Sunday the

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Speaker 1: new alternate black uniforms debut the day before on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Deon Sanders in town with the Colorado buffle, and he's

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Speaker 1: the one where style comes into your play. He's the

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Speaker 1: one that's kind of the the godfather of that one,

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Speaker 1: Coach Prime. So, I mean, it's gonna be very interesting

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Speaker 1: to see what Coach Prime is able to do here

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Speaker 1: in the in the valley. I mean, Colorado's coming off

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Speaker 1: to tough losses. They have a chance here to bounce

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Speaker 1: back against Arizona State.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 1: It should be a good fun football weekend Saturday and Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And considering how the all white looked a week ago

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Speaker 1: white tops Chris white Pants, I was a huge fan

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Speaker 1: of that look last week. Now we have seen the

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Speaker 1: black alternate uniforms in action during the unbail. We have

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Speaker 1: seen the black helmets on the practice field, just have

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Speaker 1: with the lights in the stadium. It's just a difference

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Speaker 1: kind of feel and look.

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Speaker 3: So we saw the white uniforms twice so far, once

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Speaker 3: in the preseason and obviously this past weekend in San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: I found it so unique to see the difference with

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Speaker 3: the lighting and maybe this is just the coming out

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Speaker 3: of college, everything's focused on lighting and audio.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two things that we were taught.

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Speaker 3: No matter what the content is, if the lighting's bad

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Speaker 3: or the audio is bad, the packages could put it's

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Speaker 3: over with. But to see how the sun was shining

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Speaker 3: a whole, it was absolutely beautiful. The black uniforms are

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Speaker 3: gonna look equally as beautiful once they're out on the field.

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited for this one they'll wear.

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Speaker 1: Talking about the Cardinals, they'll wear the black alternate uniforms

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Speaker 1: one other time this season. That is when they host

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Speaker 1: the Rams on November twenty six. But the first game

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Speaker 1: is this Sunday, October eighth, one oh five Cardinals and

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Speaker 1: Bengals one oh five kickoff eight thirty. Pre game coverage

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Speaker 1: begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. You have a

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Speaker 1: pair of one in three teams. A little bit later

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Speaker 1: on here on Cardinals Cover two will be joined by

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Speaker 1: Jeff Hobson, senior writer Bengals dot Com. But two teams

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Speaker 1: Zach that are one in three yet seemingly headed in

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Speaker 1: opposite directions. Because there is a lot of encouragements with

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, considering the expectations they had coming into this season.

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Speaker 3: John Thagannon has repeatedly said that this said team that

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Speaker 3: I asked him earlier on in the week if one

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Speaker 3: what your record says you are, and I asked him

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Speaker 3: do think that that's who we are. We're a one

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Speaker 1: By the way. That's all that he said was just

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Speaker 1: I do I get the two word responses out of JG,

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Speaker 1: what we've seen so far through four games. The Cardinals

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Speaker 3: When they elevated Corey Clement to the active roster for

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Speaker 3: But it's going to be that this is Amari's chance

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Speaker 3: Dennis Daly is a big body. He beat out Josh Jones.

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Speaker 1: Sticking with the line of scrimmage, the defensive side of

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Speaker 4: blitzed almost every second and third down. And I know

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Speaker 4: Arizona doesn't blitz much, but you know, they may look

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Speaker 4: at that, and I think they I think the Bengals

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Speaker 4: expecting the blitz after what Tennessee did to them. So

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm not sure that those tendencies are gonna

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Speaker 4: hold up. You know, I think they feel like Arizona's

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Speaker 4: gonna come after him, So I think, you know, Zach Taylor,

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Speaker 4: the Bengals head coach, has has has has talked a

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Speaker 4: lot about situational football and getting ahead in the games.

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Speaker 4: He's been disappointed with how they they haven't. They've gotten

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Speaker 4: better as the game has gone on, and they have not,

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Speaker 4: but they have not been good getting out of the gate,

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Speaker 4: and so they've been behind and they've let the defense

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Speaker 4: has been able to dictate to them instead of the

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Speaker 4: other way around. So I think they feel like if

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Speaker 4: they can get ahead and and and get control of

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Speaker 4: the situation, you know, they'll be able to they'll be

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Speaker 4: able to get on you know, they'll be able to

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Speaker 4: get on the other side of this. And I think

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Speaker 4: I think they feel like a lot of it is,

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Speaker 4: you know, they can't get behind and let's let defenses

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Speaker 4: just pin their ears back, you know. So I think

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Speaker 4: that's that's that's been a big emphasis the last couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks is get a lead.

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Speaker 1: It would certainly help if you had the availability of

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Speaker 1: a T. Higgins and a nerve Smith. What are you

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Speaker 1: thinking as we speak here Thursday about their status for Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll see that, you know, we'll see the injury report.

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Speaker 4: I think Zach stand a pretty upbeat about irv IRV

463
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Speaker 4: Smith Junior. Their tight end. He's missed the last two

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Speaker 4: games because of a handstringing problem, and I think it

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Speaker 4: sounds like Zach's confidence that he'll be able to play,

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Speaker 4: and you know that that that's something else that's been

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Speaker 4: missing to a little bit. Is uh, you know, by

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Speaker 4: this time in the season last year and the year

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Speaker 4: before that, aiden Hurst and c. J. Newsama had had

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Speaker 4: some pretty big games at tight end. So uh, it's

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Speaker 4: it's you know, he hasn't had that because of the

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Speaker 4: injury the IRVS, So that's another thing, you know. So

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Speaker 4: I think it hoping that, you know, get a little

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Speaker 4: bit more movement, get his tight end back, and things

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Speaker 4: will be better than they were in Tennessee. That's the

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Speaker 4: least two things they didn't have in Tennisee.

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Speaker 1: One more question on the offense. Jamar Chase his comments

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Speaker 1: in the media this week, and I think he's absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: He is pretty much always open, but his numbers haven't

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Speaker 1: been great outside the game against the Rams again, Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow hasn't been himself as well. Is it just a

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Speaker 1: matter of time before Burrow and Chase kind of get

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Speaker 1: that chemistry back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think they showed it against the Rams.

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Speaker 4: I mean he Jim had his best team one hundred

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Speaker 4: and forty one yards against the Rams on twelve catches.

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Speaker 4: That was his biggest day since He's set the NFL

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Speaker 4: Lookie record for a single game with two sixty six,

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Speaker 4: so you know he's been a factor. But you know,

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Speaker 4: he went seven to seventy eight. I think the other day.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, these guys, they're taken away in

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Speaker 4: the long ball. Everybody's taken away in the long ball.

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Speaker 4: So I think that that's, uh, that's something you have

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Speaker 4: to look at when you look at Jamas numbers. But

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Speaker 4: I mean, he played a hell of a game against

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Speaker 4: the Rams because the Rams give you nothing, nothing deep

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Speaker 4: and uh so, but I you know, I think that's, uh,

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Speaker 4: he's gonna get He's going to get his numbers, He's

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Speaker 4: going to make his plays. It's going to happen. And

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Speaker 4: I think this that the reason it hasn't happened is

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Speaker 4: because they've been behind and defenses have been able to

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Speaker 4: dictate and they've just been able to take away whatever

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Speaker 4: they wanted to take away. And I just don't think

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Speaker 4: healthier Borough gets and uh, Chase Sigan and boy, that's

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Speaker 4: just gonna that's still they'll catch up to where they

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Speaker 4: should be.

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Speaker 1: Let's switch it over to the other side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: The running defense for the Bengals, they've struggled against the run. Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: they'll run the ball very well, at least to these

510
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Speaker 1: first four games. What has the Bengals defense attention this

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Speaker 1: week when they look at the Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: Well, obviously Connor, I mean, uh and and really they

513
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Speaker 4: got they got highly did. But Dobbs, and they've played

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Speaker 4: Connor before with Pittsburgh. They know, you know, they know

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Speaker 4: he's a terrific competitor. And these guys know him too.

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Speaker 4: Mike Hilton, I believe grew up with Josh Dobbs in

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Speaker 4: suburban Atlanta and played with him in Pittsburgh. And uh

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Speaker 4: and and and Tyler's a uh was a college teammate

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Speaker 4: at Connor at pitt So Uh it's kind of an

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Speaker 4: old home week Dad. They know each other. They had

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Speaker 4: highly they had highly did for Donnie and Conna. And

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Speaker 4: I think they know that this they're gonna have to Uh,

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Speaker 4: they got to stop Connor. They haven't, you know, They

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Speaker 4: let Henry, They let Henry dictate the game. That's easy

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Speaker 4: to do. He's Dereck Henry he's the king. But in

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Speaker 4: the two previous games, the Bengals have had only allowed

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Speaker 4: one hundred rushing yads in the two Brigious games to Henry.

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Speaker 4: They had one hundred and twenty two Sunday in Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: But that's because obviously a lot of things at that

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Speaker 4: they're their their their offense wasn't you know, they were

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Speaker 4: on the field a lot, you know, and that's the

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Speaker 4: thing they have to fix. You know, they got to

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Speaker 4: get first downs on offense and the defense can stand

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Speaker 4: up and take Connor away. But I think, yeah, they're

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Speaker 4: they had the Historically, this defense the last few years

536
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Speaker 4: hasn't been top tennish against the run. They've been taught

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Speaker 4: tennis overall, so you know, they they're usually salty against

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Speaker 4: the run. So they don't want to get back to that.

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Speaker 4: I know they're emphasizing that, and they also have to

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Speaker 4: the Other thing they want to do is, you know,

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Speaker 4: take you know, they've given up too many explosives. I mean,

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Speaker 4: there was a nightmarish seven minutes stretch in the second

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Speaker 4: quarter against Tennessee where they allowed you know, seven plays

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Speaker 4: of at least twenty yards, So that that that you know,

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Speaker 4: obviously that can't keep happening. But I so, I think

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Speaker 4: those are the two elements that they're looking at going

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Speaker 4: into this one. Make sure Conne doesn't take over the game,

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Speaker 4: and make sure Dobs doesn't make big plays out of

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Speaker 4: the CLOCKT.

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Speaker 1: You bring up Dobbs, his mobility has been a plus

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Speaker 1: through the first four games. Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson. Not

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Speaker 1: that I'm putting Dobbs on those two quarterbacks levels, but

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Speaker 1: the mobility of a Watson and a Jackson. Bengals already

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Speaker 1: seen those two quarterbacks. You think that could be a

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Speaker 1: benefit for Cincinnati this week.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think they're you know, they play they played

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Speaker 4: Jackson Place a year. You know, they've getten Watson, you

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Speaker 4: know they've gotten they had played gud you know, they

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Speaker 4: played these guys a lot. So I mean, and I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, let's look around the league. Let's face it.

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Speaker 4: Uh uh uh, that's what you're getting now, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I I even Borrow, who's a horrific pocket pass.

563
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Speaker 4: He makes his bones out of the pocket runners. You know,

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Speaker 4: so they've they've done well against these guys in the

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Speaker 4: last couple of years. You know, look at the numbers

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Speaker 4: with the against Mahomes. You know, they're playing one against Mahomes,

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Speaker 4: so they understand how how difficult it is to play

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Speaker 4: the guy like Dobbs because you get you in a

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Speaker 4: two way go and all eleven guys have got to

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Speaker 4: be good. I mean, you know, you can't let these

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Speaker 4: guys uh get out of it. You know, you can't

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Speaker 4: let them uh come running down. He'll act you so

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Speaker 4: and they and they know how how a suck of

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Speaker 4: a guy like Jobs can be because you just you

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Speaker 4: just don't know when he's gonna tuck and run. And

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Speaker 4: he's very good swing the ball wins running. So I

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Speaker 4: mean it's uh, uh you know, it's a it's it's uh,

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Speaker 4: it's tough for you know. Lou and Rumo, the touch

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Speaker 4: of coordinator for the for the Bengals, uh as always said,

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Speaker 4: these guys are they put so much question on the

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Speaker 4: defense and it doesn't give you much room.

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Speaker 1: Forever. Cardinals and Bengals, both teams one and three. They

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Speaker 1: will meet up on Sunday. Jeff, appreciate the time, and

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Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you on Sunday as well.

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Speaker 4: Sounds good. Come over and say hello before to say

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Speaker 4: you have a good game.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate Jeff joining us here on Cardinals Cover two presented

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Speaker 1: by Hyundai, pro partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As we

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Speaker 1: continue to look ahead to Sunday's game Cardinals and Bengals,

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Speaker 1: bring in Zach Gershman here on Cardinals Cover two. And

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Speaker 1: something that Jeff brought up, and that is something that

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about all week long, is what this

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Speaker 1: Cardinals defense does with a very one, say, well, I'll

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Speaker 1: say a very limited quarterback in Joe Burrow. The Cardinals

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Speaker 1: do not blitz a lot. In fact, they have the

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Speaker 1: lowest blitz percentage in the league according to Next Gen Stats.

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Speaker 1: And what we've seen out of Burrow is he is

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Speaker 1: not under center. He lives out a shotgun. He is

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Speaker 1: throwing passes very quickly. His snap to throw speed is

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Speaker 1: second fastest in the league, behind to a tongue of Aloa. So,

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Speaker 1: if you're Nick Rolis, if you're Jonathan Gannon, do you

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Speaker 1: blitz something that you have not done much this season?

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Speaker 1: So the tendency, what are you expecting? What do you do?

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Speaker 1: And then if you do blitz, are you are you

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to get home? Because Burrow right now

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Speaker 1: out of the shotgun. If he is gonna throw it. It's

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Speaker 1: one step, one look and throw.

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Speaker 3: I think a big part of it's going to depend

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Speaker 3: on the personnel that they put out there. Whether it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be that three outside linebackers one defensive lineman look

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Speaker 3: that we've seen a handful of different times. It's really

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Speaker 3: gonna depend on also which outside linebackers are out on

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Speaker 3: the field. We've seen the bend that Dennis Gardak has

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Speaker 3: and how he's been able to get by lineman and

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Speaker 3: tight ends and running back trying to block him and

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Speaker 3: to get to hand the four sacks that he has

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Speaker 3: so far this season there. It's funny because we talk

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Speaker 3: about the percentage of blitzes that the Cardinals defense produces,

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Speaker 3: yet the sack total looks completely different For the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: They've done a really solid job on defense of getting

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Speaker 3: by the offensive lineman with just their outside linebackers and

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Speaker 3: their defensive lineman trying to get through. I do think

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Speaker 3: knowing going into it ahead of time, knowing that Burrow's

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Speaker 3: mobility is going to be limited, you should try taking

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Speaker 3: advantage of that.

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Speaker 1: You should try.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's all out blitz, but you should

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Speaker 3: decide to spice it up a little bit more, add

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Speaker 3: some of those blitzes into it to balance it out

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Speaker 3: as a whole.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals tied for eleventh with twelve sacks this season, Dennis

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Speaker 1: Kardak leading the way with four. But again it goes

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Speaker 1: back to what do you do, what are you capable

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Speaker 1: of doing? And then do you mix it up? Now?

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Speaker 1: As Jeff spoke earlier, he or at least the Bengals

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Speaker 1: are expecting the Cardinals do to come after Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: And why not when you are severely limited at calf

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Speaker 1: injury that he hurt, missed a month of training camp,

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Speaker 1: aggravated it again in week two, and he's almost looked

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Speaker 1: like a statue there in the pocket. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: from how Burrow performs with the lack of performance, that's

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Speaker 1: where you get these numbers where you're the worst offense

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Speaker 1: in the league. You're thirty one running the ball, you're

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth passing the ball, You're second to last as

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Speaker 1: far as points per game. You've only scored three offensive

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00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: touchdown this season. That's the fewest in the league. It's

647
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: not a great offense right now. But if you're the

648
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: Cardinals again, do you go against what you have done

649
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: that's been successful or is it more of a mix

650
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Speaker 1: and match.

651
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: I think it has to be more of a mix

652
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: and match, throwing in a couple of blitzes in different

653
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: looks and different There are different plays at the car

654
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: At the Cincinnati Bengals, we're not able to scout. We

655
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: know Johnathan Gannon and Nick Rolis are defensive masterminds, and

656
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: to draw up a play for them that they have

657
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: not shown so far is not hard for them to do.

658
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: We're only four games in and while you do have

659
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: a good amount of tape for an opposing team to watch,

660
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: you have not thrown the entire playbook out there yet.

661
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: So knowing that they are going to have the ability,

662
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: I know Joe Burrow said that this is a must

663
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: win game for the Cincinnati Bengals, and we spoke about

664
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Speaker 3: how Hollywood said it's regardless of result, the morale of

665
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: the team is not wavering. This has the opportunity to

666
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: not just be a must win game for the Cardinals,

667
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: but a statement win as well, and it could be

668
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: heavily anchored by that defense.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals went on Sunday, you could bury the Bengals, Yeah.

670
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: One hundred percent and I think also as a whole

671
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Speaker 3: it to Cincinnati Bengals. While their record is one in

672
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Speaker 3: three currently, they are still the Cincinnati Bengals that were

673
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: in the AFC Championship two years in a row. We're

674
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Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl two years ago in La To

675
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is still a really solid quarterback. He's being

676
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Speaker 3: limited right now due to injury, and that's he will

677
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: not as much as people will say what they want

678
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Speaker 3: to say about Joe Burrow statistically right now, the Joe

679
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: Burrow that people watch and have fallen in love with

680
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: over the years is that Joe Burrow from last year

681
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: and two years ago and three years ago, and from

682
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Speaker 3: his time at LSU when he won the Heisman. People

683
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Speaker 3: are not judging Joe Burrow right now as harshly because

684
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Speaker 3: of the fact that they understand that he's limited. He

685
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Speaker 3: still is Joe Burrow, though, and this is still a

686
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati team that is currently the reigning AFC North champions

687
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 3: the team that is able that was in the AFC

688
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Speaker 3: Championship game and was one bad penalty away from playing

689
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: in the Super in Arizona last year. You have the

690
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: chance to make a statement with this. One should be

691
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 3: noted that Burrow did not appear on the injury report

692
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Speaker 3: this week. He'd been on the injury report all season

693
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: long because of that cap, but this week not on it. Now,

694
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: does that mean he's one hundred percent? No, but he's

695
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: probably feeling better than he has, and he said as much.

696
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Speaker 3: Do you think that there's a chance that this could

697
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Speaker 3: also just be a like a try and figure out

698
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Speaker 3: the word for it. They could be playing the Cardinals

699
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Speaker 3: in a sense.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mess my games. I wouldn't mess with the

701
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Speaker 1: injury report. That is something the league well, but it

702
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Speaker 1: takes very seriously. That's my point though.

703
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Speaker 3: If if Joe Burrow is saying that, well, I'm limited

704
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: in this capacity, but he's practicing fully, doesn't that lead

705
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Speaker 3: to something in a sense I guess depending on like

706
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Speaker 3: what player, especially what what good player goes out and says,

707
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: this is my flaw right now? I think that it

708
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: could be a little bit of mind.

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Speaker 1: Games in a sense brings attention to a certain box

710
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: part that's not feeling great. But I think we all

711
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: see what's going on, and it's you can say, Burrow

712
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Speaker 1: can say whatever he wants until he performs and we

713
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Speaker 1: all see it. It's just going to be limited. Joe

714
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: Burrow and that calf is still bothersome again. Now did

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Speaker 1: he get have enough treatment this week to where he

716
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: is maybe not seventy percent but he's eighty five ninety

717
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 1: ninety five percent. I don't know the other thing as

718
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: far as the Cardinals and getting a win this Sunday,

719
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: because again, I'm confident the Cardinals right now are a

720
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: better team. The Bengals defensively have not been very good

721
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: stopping the run. Derreck Henry ran all over the Bengals

722
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: last week, also through a touchdown pass. I'm not expecting

723
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Speaker 1: James Connor to do that on Sunday, but I am

724
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Speaker 1: expecting more than eleven carries for Connor this week versus

725
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: last week. Again, Cardinals got down in the second half,

726
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: but I think they went away from James too early

727
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: in that contest. But I'm expecting the Cardinal to at

728
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 1: least establish the run, see if they can get something going,

729
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: because that's been the strength of this Cardinals offense right now.

730
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Speaker 3: The Bengals are thirty first in the league or second

731
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: to last in the league in run defense, giving up

732
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty seven yards in total over the

733
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Speaker 3: four games. And Derrick Henry was a big part of that,

734
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 3: and just as a whole, the Cincinnati Bengals run defense

735
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: has not been good. I think you definitely need to

736
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Speaker 3: get more rushes out of James Connor. It's gotta be

737
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 3: more than the eleven. But also, teams are now going

738
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Speaker 3: into this with the understanding that Josh Dobbs is a

739
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Speaker 3: dual threat quarterback and that's something they're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: prepare for. Yell defro Hoole during the press conference when

741
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Speaker 3: I asked him about Josh dobbs mobility, does that help

742
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: the offensive line as a whole, and he said yes,

743
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: because defenses aren't always preparing for a running quarterback. With

744
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, you know, Kyler Murray has the ability to

745
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: have that video game like speed, elusiveness and be able

746
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: to break free and basically be a second running back

747
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs, and this offense that Drew Patsy has drawn

748
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: up has allowed for Josh Dobbs to use his legs

749
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: a lot more sometimes, I think even more than an

750
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: average fan would want to see their quarterback breaking out

751
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: out side of the pocket. But I think you definitely

752
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: need to draw up some rushing plates, whether that's game

753
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: Rondale Moore back in the backfield or involving Amrio de

754
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 3: Mercato or whoever that third running back is that they're

755
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: going to bring up that is, I think that's really important,

756
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: or if Keante does play.

757
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: Tobbs hays the fourth most rushing yards by quarterback and

758
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: he is number sixth league ranking as far as rushing

759
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: yards per carry at almost six yards pop. So yeah,

760
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: he is using his legs. Last week he had twelve carries.

761
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: Five of those, though, were scramble plays, meaning nothing open,

762
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: Gotta get out of the pocket and make something happen.

763
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: So you don't want to see him used too much

764
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: in the run game more of Okay, this passing play

765
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: didn't quite work, Let's do something with his play and

766
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: not making a negative play. And that's when the mobility

767
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: of Dobbs and his ability to scramble and run I

768
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: think has surprised some team so far.

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Speaker 3: It definitely has, because he's been able to when all

770
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: of his options have been locked down, he's been able

771
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: to make some magic happen with his legs, and he

772
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: was one of the best rushing quarterbacks in the SEC

773
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: during his time at Tennessee. So to hear, you know,

774
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: yell Defroholden, to see the teams not be prepared for

775
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs to use his legs and to run outside

776
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 3: the pocket, it's kind of it's kind of confusing in

777
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: my opinion, how teams have not been prepared for this

778
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: because you know what you're going to get out of

779
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs, despite the fact that he's been a journeyman

780
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: quarterback before coming here to Arizona. It's just now, I

781
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: think it's going to be a matter of how do

782
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: you utilize the Reid option like you were able to

783
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 3: get Micah Parsons to bite on that forty four yard

784
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: rushed by Josh Dobbs on the second play of the

785
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: game against the Cowboys. That's when you're going to be

786
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: interested to see how does this running game evolve as

787
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: a whole boat with the quarterback, with James Connor and

788
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: with whoever else you have in that backfields.

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Speaker 1: Doing a good job protecting the football. Has not thrown

790
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: an interception this season, knock on wood. That does not

791
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: end that streak in on Sunday.

792
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 3: How about the list of quarterbacks though that haven't rock party.

793
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Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs and c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud.

795
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Speaker 3: If you would have said at the beginning of last season,

796
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Speaker 3: just pick a week for twenty twenty two, that next year,

797
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs, Rock Purty and CJ. Stroud we're going to

798
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: be the three players that I think the college football

799
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 3: fans has said, Okay, maybe c J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud. I don't think people would have circled Josh Dobbs

801
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Speaker 1: or Brock Purty. I don't even know if they would

802
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: have put c J. Stroud on there, because you're talking

803
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: about a rookie quarterback who's surprised a lot of people.

804
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: He's the best rookie of the bunch. Unfortunately for the

805
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, but good for the Houston Texans, but unfortunately

806
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we want him to Yeah, listen, next year, haven't

808
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: got fun. As long as he doesn't that game when

809
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: we play them later on this year, that's going to

810
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: be an interest one when it comes to the standings,

811
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 3: when it comes to the record, because we're going to

812
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 3: beginning towards the second half of the season.

813
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not until mid November, November nineteenth at the

814
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. But again, the matchup this week Cardinals and Bengals.

815
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Speaker 1: Anything else for you, Zach that stands out about this

816
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: game on the field, between the lines.

817
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be interesting to see the

818
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: ever growing relationship that Josh Dobbs has with his wide receivers.

819
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 3: It seems like Michael Wilson's been on top of the

820
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: world with his performance against the forty nine Ers, the

821
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: big time play against the Cowboys. How he's able to

822
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: come back home now he knows that a lot of

823
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: the spotlight's going to be on him. He's no longer

824
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: and under the radar wide receiver. He's now wide receiver

825
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: number two, and defenses are going to be preparing for him.

826
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Speaker 3: The continuing involvement of Hollywood Brown, how he's been improving

827
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 3: week after week, his yards and receptions have continued to increase.

828
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: How that relationship continues to grow. And as a whole,

829
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: who's going to be able to get to Joe Burrow

830
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: in the backfield?

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Speaker 1: All right, before we go here for those long time

832
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: listeners Here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, proud

833
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. A week ago, we opened

834
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Speaker 1: the show talking about Wally the emotional support alligator of

835
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies fan tried to bring to a game and

836
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: was unsuccessful. And of course we're wondering now what happens

837
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: when the Cardinals play the Eagles later on this season.

838
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: But I challenged you a little bit, and I was

839
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: told that I don't see a alligator in front of you.

840
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: You obviously don't have one, like a live one with

841
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: you present. That would be interesting. But I was told

842
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: that perhaps there is something in the works. I went

843
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: on blackwater Piles dot com and I found an American

844
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: alligator from Mississippi that is only it's a baby alligator,

845
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: but it's one hundred and seventy dollars. And I'm thinking,

846
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: you know, if I, if I do decide to go

847
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: down that route and purchase it, it, you know, could be

848
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: something that could be the new I don't want to

849
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: say the office mascot, because that's always going to be

850
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: a big red, but it could be somebody that or something,

851
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: or just an animal that you know, people decide to

852
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: run away from. That that that scared me. I didn't

853
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: want to do that.

854
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: So I did the logical thing, and I went on

855
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: Walmart and I saw an aisle c fifteen outside of Scottsdale,

856
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: that there's a baby alligator stuffed animal. So I'm thinking

857
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: that for next week's covered two, maybe Molly the stuffed

858
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: emotional alligator decides to make her debut.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you looked at this alligator, this real alligator.

860
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Speaker 1: Was it an emotional support allegator or just a pet?

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Speaker 1: I don't think alligators just come about and they're just

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Speaker 1: emotional support, like they just here's your emotional support allgaret.

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Speaker 1: I think that's got to go through the Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: this this alligator was not trained. You just found one.

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Speaker 3: I just found one, and it guaranteed a live delivery.

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Speaker 3: So I listen, I got a hand it to you.

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Speaker 1: You went through a lot, a lot of research on this.

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Speaker 1: All it took was three searches, stuffed alligator at Walmart,

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Speaker 1: stuffed our alligator to buy, and an alligator delivery.

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Speaker 2: And here we are.

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Speaker 1: Something to look forward to Bird Gang as we continue

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Speaker 1: here in this twenty twenty three season, and whether or

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Speaker 1: not we regret bringing Zach Gershman aboard our content and

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Speaker 1: creative team here with the Arizona Cardinals. You're telling me

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Speaker 1: you don't want an emotional support alligator. For emotional support

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Speaker 1: stuffed alleged stuff one. Fine, bring it on in, wen.

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Speaker 1: We can come up with a thread, we can come

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Speaker 1: up with a name on the third floor. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Chad Burns would love an emotional support stuffed alligator.

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Speaker 3: See, our desk are right across from each other, and

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Speaker 3: we have two cardinals that were just in my desk

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Speaker 3: once I moved in to that spot. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: whose they were, but thank you for the generous gift.

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Speaker 3: So he's got one and I got one and they

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Speaker 3: look at each other so they don't feel like too

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Speaker 3: far away from each other. But now when this emotional

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Speaker 3: support alligator decides to come in, it's going to make

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Speaker 3: the whole third four board four a lot happier.

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Speaker 1: Wow, we're turning into a petting zoo here. We're the cardinals,

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Speaker 1: that's true. Yes, all animals welcome, unless, of course, you're

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Speaker 1: the Bengals this week, and you're not welcome.

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Speaker 3: I'd be scared of a bengal more than an alligator,

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Speaker 3: to be honest.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Bengals a little faster than an alligator.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got more colors too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. All right, Well, we'll see where this

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Speaker 1: takes us here as people you know, get back on track.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals and Bengals coming up on Sunday again. One oh

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Speaker 1: five is the kickoff. Eight thirty Pregame coverage begins on

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network and on that notes, we

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Speaker 1: will put a lid on. This edition of Cardinals. Cover two,

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Speaker 1: presented by Hundai Probub partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has

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Speaker 1: always special thanks to our executive producer Jim on one Hundro,

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Speaker 1: our associate producer Cody Fincher For Zach Gershman, I'm Craig

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Speaker 1: real Lou. We'll talk to you next time here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two