1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: I am all in again. 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: Let's just you, h I am all in again with 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast one 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: A Love Productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast Seasons two, Episode eight, 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 1: The Ins and Outs of Inns Air date November twenty, 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and one eons ago, with my very very 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: special guest, the renowned therapist Jennifer Banks. Recently just finished 9 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: all seven seasons of the show. Jennifer did and to 10 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: help us recap season two, episode eight. Jennifer, welcome to 11 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: the show. 12 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me synopsis. 13 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna synopsize here, Jennifer sounds good. A lion Suki 14 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: planned to open their own end, but their dream property 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: may be unavailable. Meanwhile, the independentent owner Mea visits Stars 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Hollow and Emily asked Rory to pose for an oil 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: painting for Richard's study from when he gets back from 18 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: his trip to Akron, Ohio. This is directed by the 19 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: great Michael Cattleman, written by Daniel Palladino, Also great, Jennifer. 20 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: What are your initial thoughts on this episode? 21 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: I loved this episode. There are so many amazing themes. 22 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: I see so many dynamics happening in their relationships and 23 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: oh so many great parts, funny parts like even just 24 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: that pose watching Rory with her hand up like a ballerina, 25 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: and you know, Lauraized teenage attitude coming out when when 26 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: she hears about it at the table. I just love that. 27 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: There's so much that we can dig into there. 28 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: What storyline and impacted you the most emotionally and why I. 29 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: Have to say, actually, like the paradox of seeing Emily 30 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: coming in, Mia coming in and here are two privileged 31 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: women with the same opportunity, completely different conclusion. So the 32 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: way that Mia says, you know, oh, I'll never forget 33 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: seeing her with her baby at the door, and she 34 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: comes in and she welcomes her, gives her a home, 35 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: gives her all the wonderful things that you know, basically 36 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: a child needs. Because Loria was still a child and 37 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 3: Emily couldn't offer that, right. 38 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking. That was heartbreaking, it really was. 39 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: And watching Emily not not be able, she could not 40 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 3: be vulnerable until she kind of comes back and says, 41 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: do you have any picture from that time? Yeah, I'll 42 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: send you a box. You know, she really knows she 43 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: missed out. 44 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: Well, I will say this about Elizabeth Frands, that's probably 45 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: the best guest star turn I've seen on that show. 46 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: She is so likable, she's such a great actress, and 47 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: what a beautifully written role for her. And yeah, the 48 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: emotional impact of her coming of of of the fans 49 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: getting to meet her and hearing this backstory. And we 50 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: did get some backstory on Look. This is where we 51 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: find out he's a treky. This is where we find 52 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: out so many things details about right when when Lorala 53 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: I showed up as a sixteen year old with a 54 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: with a with a newborn, to the to the the 55 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: independence in so it was quite moving and quite entertaining. Okay, 56 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: so you're talking about themes. What themes emerged this episode? 57 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, it was all about conflict between 58 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: friends and conflict with your own dreams and how that 59 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: puts you in opposition to maybe your best friend and 60 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: your business partner, and how it all comes around. So 61 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: everybody seemed to be in conflict, but it was all 62 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: resolved in a really nice way. 63 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 3: It was. But you know what often drives conflicts fear, 64 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: Like that's that's really a primary emotion that we all 65 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 3: feel and the fear in Loralai when she finds out 66 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: the independence In is going to be sold possibly. I 67 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: mean that really is what drove that whole conflict her 68 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: hearing that, you know that in was so much more 69 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: than just an end to her, even the name independence In. 70 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it's all about her independence from the home, 71 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: not even home house that she grew up in and 72 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: then this is her home with air quotes of her 73 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: almost like an adoptive mother who was attuned and present 74 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: with her, and the fear that she felt if that 75 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: was going to be sold, what that meant for her. 76 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: As I said, Elizabeth Franz played beautifully that role. We 77 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: can tell Mia has a long history here, as she 78 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: tells Michelle his English enunciation should be better by now, 79 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: and she knew lucas a young boy. She calls him lucas. 80 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: Mia tells Laura she wants to sell the In, which 81 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: really upsets Laura. I mean, the you know, the really 82 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: came around. That was unexpected for me and a wonderful 83 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: dramatic device, you know, not knowing how much Mia wanted 84 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: to and not even knowing, you know, Laura, I not 85 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: even realizing, Oh I forgot how this is going to 86 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: affect Mia. 87 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. 88 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: And then you know Mia being so classy about it 89 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: and saying, I've you know, I've had many opportunities and 90 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: many offers to sell the in and this would be 91 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: the perfect time. And she was actually celebrating and supportive 92 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: and what a great friend and great mother figure for 93 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: laurla I. And now we see, now we see in 94 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: this extraordinary woman Mia. Why perhaps why Laurela I and 95 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: Roy ar thriving because they got that support that they 96 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: weren't getting in her real Yeah. 97 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but even that, I bet you so many listeners 98 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: can see themselves in these characters. You know, whether they 99 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: received this growing up or they didn't. How important it 100 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 3: is to be able to thrive, to have that mother 101 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: maternal figure really attuned and present and caring and genuine 102 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: like you can just hear it in her voice. I 103 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: mean you know her delivery like yes, as an actress, amazing, 104 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: she just she delivers that attunement and caring essence in 105 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: her performances, whereas Emily is very cold, right, and I 106 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: think Emily has such a heart that is so hidden. 107 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: It's like she has her dukes up all the time 108 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: and she just couldn't be that person for Lorelai. 109 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: And she knew it. And that was the I mean, 110 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: talk about a dramatic moment for for Emily as she 111 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: just you see her as you know, as strong opposing 112 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: in this sort of false strength and this facade of 113 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: strength and tradition and pride and just a class You're right, 114 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: It just all crumbles, doesn't it. 115 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: It does? 116 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And she just played it so beautifully. 117 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: She really did. I was shocked. That was the first 118 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: time she met Mia, like it took that long. Yeah, power, 119 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: That says a lot about her right and her fears. 120 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: Right and the cur bridge for her to come to 121 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: drive that distance thinking about it and not confronting her, 122 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: but meeting her. I guess it was a little bit 123 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: of a confrontation. Yes, instantly refused her lunch inventation. No, yes, 124 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't think so, you know, this kind of thing. 125 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: It was a classy conflict. So fear is another theme 126 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: I really saw, right, like the why did Emily not 127 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 3: go years before? I'm sure it crossed her mind, you know. 128 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, But now here she is, right now, 129 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: she here she is, So there's the opportunity. All right, 130 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: let's switch to the Dragonfly and Suki and Laura I 131 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: discover Friend is the owner of the Rachel property quote unquote, 132 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: which is actually called the Dragonfly, and and they asked 133 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: her to buy it. However, Friend isn't selling. It's the 134 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: only thing she has in her family. She has no siblings, 135 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: she has no family, and that's it. That's her family 136 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: that run down, dilapidated in and she wants it forever 137 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: and ever. And what a what an hysterical scene that was. 138 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: I loved it. They couldn't say the word, they just 139 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: had to allude to it. You know, the forever vacation 140 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: where we're all going on that vacation. 141 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: What do you mean longer than Europe? Europe? 142 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: No, never, you know, the drama, the dramatic moment. What 143 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: I think this show does so well, and what Dan 144 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: Palladino did so well in this episode is really make 145 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: us laugh and feel for these people and root for 146 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: people to stay together when they were in such conflict. 147 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Luke was the town and you know and 148 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: everybody else. And then he trains us, you know, this 149 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: show trains us to expect the laugh and crave and 150 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: for the laugh because we know it's coming because it's 151 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: all so darn funny, and when they hit us with 152 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: these dramatic moments, they are just so powerful. They are 153 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: they are so impactful. 154 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she says, how about a cupcake? 155 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: Right? 156 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that solves everything. Let's just have a cupcake. 157 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever seen people so nice to 158 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: one another in such a great place to live? I mean, 159 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: just wow? 160 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 3: Yes. 161 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Well, Suki and Laura I get into a tiff, right, 162 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: They have a very emotional conversation regarding the next steps 163 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: they to do with the end, and where Lurlai flies 164 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: just sort of flat out tell Suki she can't be 165 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: her sporadic self when it comes to business anymore, which 166 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: which ultimately hurts Suki's feelings and it would. And then 167 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: you have a heartfelt conversation with Luke and laurealizing lurla 168 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: I apologizing to Suki for her behavior. All right, all right, 169 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: working with family and friends is difficult, right? Was Lauraa 170 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: too harsh with Suki? 171 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: I actually think loura I was just kind of lashing out, 172 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: and Suki almost like turned into this childlike being, you know, 173 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: and she becomes so sarcastic, and Lurlai is just I 174 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: mean like she's shooting blanks here, like what's going on? 175 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: At first, I was like, what the heck is this 176 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: fight about? Right, But it's really about her emotions that 177 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: were happening under the surface, right. 178 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we saw that. We saw that with the 179 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: painting too, the Rory painting too in the study where 180 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: she kind of popped at Emily. Yeah. Yeah, she's on 181 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: edge for sure. 182 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 3: Yes. One thing is how she transforms into this incredible 183 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: leader at the Independence Inn, and then when she's not there, 184 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: she's just chaos, right, And that and that role of 185 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 3: her with Suki, and that that conflict Suki was kind 186 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: of the chaos in that moment. You know, she was 187 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: really focused on the little things like the topping of 188 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: the dessert and you know which if you focus too much, 189 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: I like to say, if you focus on the pennies, 190 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: you're going to miss the dollar. Well we don't have 191 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: pennies where I'm from. 192 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: So but anyway, Yeah, yeah, she's a great boss, Laurla, 193 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: And she she's a great boss. She's in her element 194 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: and there are aspects of Emily that rubbed off on 195 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: her right that make her a great boss and a 196 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: great leader. But there is that heart and soul. There 197 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: she became the mother that she never had, absolutely, which 198 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: is a pattern that a lot of people are familiar with. 199 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: So Suki and Laura, what does the conflict reveal about 200 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: the challenges of of turning a friendship into a business partnership. 201 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: I mean, it's very risky, isn't it It is. 202 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: I personally would never do it. I've seen it, you know, 203 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: totally fall apart. I would rather find someone to do 204 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: have a business with if I couldn't do it by myself, 205 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 3: then become friendly, because I mean, the dynamic changes, right 206 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 3: being friends and you know, our differences and our strengths 207 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: and challenges. They don't just go away when you go 208 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 3: into business. They're really highlighted. And that's I think what 209 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 3: was happening in this scene, the beauty of Suki and 210 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: her ability to you know, pay so much attention to 211 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: detail all of a sudden, a bit of a curse 212 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: with business, And I think that's the scary part. If 213 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: they're already arguing and they haven't even started, yikes. 214 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to get those first couple of good 215 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: fights out of the way, and then you're then can 216 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: last if you survive those because a lot of people 217 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: don't get past the first one. No, it depends on 218 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: how brutal is. But anyway, so you think she was 219 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: right to confront Suki in the way that she did. 220 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: Could she have handled it differently? Probably? 221 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: Obviously, I think she could have handled it a little different. 222 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because she kind of she ostracized her in public. 223 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: She sure did. 224 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: She didn't do it privately and gently. She just sort 225 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: of like let her have it, you know. 226 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: She did, and Suki was pretty delicate, Yeah in that 227 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: in that moment, right. 228 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, you know, such as life. Anyway, 229 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about the phony murder. Taylor is not pleased 230 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: to find a chalk outline in front of the store, claiming, uh, 231 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: it's clues to a dead body. After three people reported 232 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: seeing Jess the night of the phony murder, Taylor hosts 233 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: a town meaning but started the meeting early as there 234 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: was a special issue with the business community needed to 235 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: just us without Luke's present, So not fair, not fair. 236 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: The people stars hollow upset with both Jess and Luke, 237 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: prompting Rory to confront Jess and defend Luke as the 238 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: entire town seems to be blaming Luke. For Jess's behavior. 239 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: I don't even need to ask this question. You know, 240 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: of course he's going to be bothered Luke. This is 241 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: this is a classic I think this is you know, 242 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of Luke in this episode and a 243 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: lot of rants, but there's also a lot of good Uh. 244 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: You know, he's such a good friend to Laurel I 245 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: when he's reconnecting the goat's head from the hoopah and uh, 246 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, imparting his wisdom from his first year starting 247 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: his his diner business. And so yeah, I mean we 248 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: see that side of Luke that just gets into a rant. 249 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: He's cornered, he feels trapped, and he lashes out. But 250 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: wonderful how Laurel I comes to his defense, and then 251 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: of course Rory later confronting. 252 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: Jess, also comes to his defense. 253 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Really nice to see. 254 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: But he's such a good man. 255 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: Did you think it was fair for the town to 256 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: blame Luke? No, No, that's Taylor's influence. That's Taylor's nefarious 257 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: influence over the town. 258 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: It's such a snob in this episode, like here, you know, here, 259 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: here's this kid that wouldn't have had a home, and 260 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: he's got everything against him, right, except his beloved uncle 261 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: who is I mean, you know, even Jess is against Luke, 262 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: and yet he still perseveres and is trying to do 263 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: good for this this kid who keeps messing up in 264 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: the town. 265 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you think Luke at this point feels like 266 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: he's failing both the town and just because it seems 267 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: like everybody's so upset with him. 268 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: I think he's frustrated. Yes, maybe not failing, but he 269 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: definitely is wavering on that line, not sure what's going 270 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: to happen. 271 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, all right, let's get to the oil painting. 272 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: This was very funny. During a Friday night dinner, Emily 273 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: reveals she wants an oil painting of Rory. She even 274 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: arranges for Rory to pose in a chair in an 275 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: awkward position with her arm draped over her head and 276 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: a swan as a prop. Lorelei calls reacts with her 277 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: trademark sarcasm when she sees the prompting Emily to remark 278 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: that she can be so harsh sometimes. She really did 279 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: come down on Emily was trying to do a nice thing. 280 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 1: She's just so out of touch with these two, you know, 281 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just but it's like this old school tradition, 282 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: we let's have a painting for Richard. And she was 283 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: she was just trying to do something nice for her husband, 284 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: who she really sympathized with being on the road and 285 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: missing him. 286 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: That's all she's got, her class, that's it, that's it. 287 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: That's all she knows. So she's gonna stay safe, right yeah, yeah, 288 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 3: But did you see how Laura I really want still 289 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 3: wants her mom's approval. Like when even at the dinner 290 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: table before that, you know, Emily says, do you want 291 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: to mirror in front of your face? You can finish 292 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: your conversation. She goes, sorry, mom, Right, you can see 293 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 3: she could have come back, but she really does want 294 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: her mom's approval. It's like that again, that paradox of 295 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 3: conflict and connection throughout the whole episode. 296 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, these verbal beatdowns from Emily. But 297 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the behavior is very provocative coming out of Laura, 298 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: isn't it? 299 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: Sure? 300 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: Is I mean, with cutting Emily out of the conversation 301 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: and just quipping her daughter to reject reject, Oh here 302 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: we go, careful, don't commit to it. I mean it's 303 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean, in real life and real time that is 304 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: annoying to Emily, she's annoyed by. 305 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 3: This, But why do you think she's doing that? 306 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: Well, I think because she is. I think both women 307 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: are deeply hurt. I think that all that's coming from 308 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: lorealized pain and not being able to connect with her 309 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: own mother consistently. And you know that's sarcasm, and that 310 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: that humor comes out as a as a defense mechanism, right, 311 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just how to keep the distance and 312 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: how to keep it safe. And this is how I 313 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: feel safe, and you know I can't be vulnerable or 314 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: intimate with my own mother, I mean, and that's where 315 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: all this humor comes from. And it's it's glorious to watch, 316 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: but it's really I mean, it's very sad, you know, 317 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: very very sad. 318 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I agree with that. Right Often, people, especially kids, 319 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 3: they act out in the worst ways to have some connection, right, right, 320 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: So that lashing out is is a connection. Gossiping, it's connecting, 321 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 3: you know, and any of those those ways, it's still connecting, 322 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: even if it's hurtful. 323 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: And I think after Laura, I apologize for the painting, 324 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: uh drubbing. Uh. You know, Emily showed some real grace 325 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: in accepting her apology. 326 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 3: Yes she did, and I'm glad. 327 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad that Laura I apologized. I really am. 328 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 3: I wish there was a hug. I was hoping they 329 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: were going to have embrace. But that's just not them. 330 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm a hugger, you know. I have 331 00:20:53,520 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: so many clients that say, my parents never hugged me, right, 332 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: and that wild And I recently had somebody that said, 333 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: I can't say I love you. Anybody said, can you 334 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 3: say I love you to your child? Nope, can't do it. 335 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: What about your dog? Oh yeah, I can do that 336 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 3: because my dog loves me back wild Eh. What a 337 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: different world we would live in if everybody was vulnerable. 338 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: Well, they say, a twenty second hug, you know, creates 339 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: all of these wonderful chemical reactions inside of a child 340 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: and with the parent as well. There's a there's a 341 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: bonding that happens. 342 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 3: Hugs are important, they sure are, but not to Emily Gilmore. 343 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just a generation. That's that generation that they 344 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: were tough man. They really withheld, withheld, withheld, and that 345 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: was their control and their power over and you know 346 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: all that bs right, that is too bad? All right now, 347 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: we get to the closing scene, Emily shows up at 348 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: the end this big scene to meet the woman who 349 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: raised her daughter, and Mia tells Emily, upon seeing young 350 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: Laura l I with a baby in her arms, that 351 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: if that were her daughter, she would have wanted someone 352 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: to take her in. Wow. Devastating, Emily says, she would 353 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: have wanted her to send her home. And that's where 354 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: we see Emily is just completely disconnected from anybody else's 355 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: emotional life. This is a truly self centered, egotistical, stubborn 356 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,120 Speaker 1: woman who cannot see beyond her own. 357 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: Knows and uh wow, not even a thank you, nothing, 358 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 3: just ice, just entitled. 359 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 360 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 3: And that no wonder Loralai left. 361 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: Right mm hmm oh yeah, I mean she. 362 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: Was just suffocating in there, right yeah. And that I 363 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: think is the life for a lot of people, not 364 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 3: really a home the way that independence in was for Loorlai. 365 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: How many young kids in this country over the decades 366 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: have been searched of left home and they're searching for 367 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: their meya. 368 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: So many, so so. 369 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: Many, and they a lot don't find their medya. 370 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 3: They don't. 371 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: The massive problem, you know, that's parents, take heed, hug 372 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: your kids, tell them you love it. 373 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. 374 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean if you were to give one piece of advice, 375 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, before the end, before you went on that 376 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: long vacation my end, well whoever, I mean that that 377 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: would be my advice. How of your kids tell them 378 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: you love them like every day multiple times? 379 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: And yes, take I don't think I can say this 380 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: word on the air, but take the bee out of 381 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: the obituary that is in my book, because in other words, 382 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: you need to be vulnerable, right right? What kind of 383 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: legacy do you want to leave? 384 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 1: Right? 385 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: Do you want? Is it going to say, well, worked 386 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: fifty hours on your epitaph or made a beautiful painting 387 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: with ours up actually happened to be the book? So 388 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: what kind of legacy are you going to leave? Because remember, 389 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: people don't remember what you teach them. They remember how you, 390 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: how they felt around you, right right, So this whole episode, 391 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 3: and if you take that perspective of how Loralai felt 392 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: around Mia compared to her mom, and the difference in 393 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: her mannerism so different. So great. 394 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 4: Summer is this season of love Summer Loven, here we come. 395 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: If you're old enough to remember Summer Loven, you're old 396 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 4: enough to find and I Do Part Two. Listen each 397 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: week as our hosts make it their goal to find 398 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: you the next true love of your life. Jenny Garth, 399 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: Jana Kramer, Alexia Napola, Cheryl Burke, Jen Fessler, Kelly ben Simone, 400 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 4: Amy Roebock, and TJ. Holmes are dedicated to helping you 401 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: fall in love again. It's time to make it hot, 402 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: hot hot this summer. 403 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: Listen to I Do Part Two on the iHeartRadio app, 404 00:25:52,280 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. You know, 405 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: it's really interesting to start a series this way with 406 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: such a unexpectedly powerful move by a sixteen year old 407 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: Laurel I with a baby. That is a power move. Yeah, 408 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: she didn't know it at the time. She didn't know 409 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: how empowering it would be. She just knew she had 410 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: to get away and the only way her gut was 411 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: telling her get away from this. This is too toxic 412 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: to even deal with. I do not want my baby 413 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: anywhere near this right right. What a brave thing to 414 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: do for a sixteen year old. And that's where this 415 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: series begins, with this power move, this conscious or no 416 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: right power move from this Laureli Gilmore with a baby Rory, right. 417 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, as if she didn't have a choice, she had 418 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: to do it. 419 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: Then we meet her sixteen years later when her daughter's 420 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: sixteen years old. What a hook, What a powerful hook, 421 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: and all of this unfolding before us. This is, you 422 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: know what, tyrants and bullies and and I've had a 423 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: great deal of experience with this. Never expect. The one 424 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: thing they don't expect when they with her friends or 425 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: business colleagues or family members. What they never expect is 426 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: that you can just leave. You can just cut them off. 427 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: And it's an amazingly empowering thing. 428 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: You know what, Scott, There's three things that often keep 429 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: us stack in, you know, any adverse childhood experiences, traumatic events, 430 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: awful things, lack of choice, lack of safety or responsibility. 431 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 3: You can cover those three things. We really can be 432 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: free of a lot of those awful feelings of shame 433 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 3: and guilt. And so many people feel stuck. Right but Laurela, 434 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 3: I didn't she did it. 435 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: I think of all the characters in this show, people 436 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: ask me all the time, you know, how are you 437 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: similar to Luke? And you know who I'm similar to 438 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: is Larelai? 439 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 440 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I identify with that very very strongly, that 441 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: will to power, that will to cut off, that will 442 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: to to reinvent, that will to heal the wounds, and 443 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: knowing and staying positive and knowing that there's a better situation, 444 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: there's a better future. What a great role model, What 445 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: a great thing. This is the power of this show. 446 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: It's it's it's that, you know, it's that that courageous 447 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: Laureli Gilmour. 448 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: What were your dreams? 449 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: My dream we're going to do a little therapy, Okay, well. 450 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: But Lareli's dream of having her own in right, and 451 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: her dream of leaving home and you know, the home 452 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: of the independence in and what was your dream? 453 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Well, when I was a kid growing up, my dream 454 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: was to be a ski racer, believe or not in 455 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: New Jersey where that just wasn't gonna happen. No, it's flat, 456 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: there aren't really any mountains, and yet here I was wanting, 457 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: wanting to be a ski racer. I don't know, And 458 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: we didn't have money, you know, we didn't have enough 459 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: money for that. I mean, that's an expensive sport. I 460 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: could only afford to go skiing once I, you know, 461 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: got Gilmore girls right then, little little then I had 462 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: enough to go take a ski trip here and there. 463 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, and then after that, then then after that, 464 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: it was just the dream was to go to college 465 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: and and to figure it out. It wasn't baseball. I 466 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: didn't dream to be a baseball you know. It wasn't that. 467 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: I just kind of I didn't fall into it. It 468 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: was just sort of like, oh, well, you know, I'm 469 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: really good at this. I can I can earn a 470 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: living doing this. I don't know how good a living 471 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: I can earn, but I can be professional and we'll 472 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: see how it goes. 473 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: You know, that kind of wow. 474 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: But it was really, you know, there was there was 475 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: writing involved. You know. I wanted to be a writer 476 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: in my teens and I wrote a great deal and 477 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: I read a great deal of books. So I wanted 478 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: to go to college and study English literature and and 479 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: be a writer. 480 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: Have you wrote any books? 481 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: No, No, I've written chapters, and I've written a lot 482 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: of short stories, and I've written screenplays and I've written, yes, teleplays, 483 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: not not very many teleplays, but screenplays. Yeah. I've started 484 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: a couple of novels and just got stuck. Yeah, you know, 485 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: you really have to confront your game and is doing 486 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: that in a room, right, It's it's terrifying. So yes, 487 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: it is, you know, the writing bug and the writing 488 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: gene is in my family. But nice you know, uh, 489 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: the dream shift opportunities present themselves. You know, it's like, 490 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, God laughs at people that make these these 491 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: very detailed plans for their lives, right because they never 492 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: take into consideration the the chaotic nature of everyday life, 493 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: right and chance happenings. 494 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 3: That's also why I don't think Suki and larealize business 495 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 3: dream is going to come to fruition like based on 496 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 3: this episode, because Suki is so her attention to detail 497 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: and then life comes in like there's just it just 498 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: doesn't work right. You can only plan so much, we 499 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: can't control, which is scary in itself. 500 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: Right, Right, I have to say this is I've had 501 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: a lot of not a lot, but I've had a 502 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: few favorite episodes. This one really hit me so far 503 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: at this point in the I am all in process. 504 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: This is my favorite episode. 505 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: Wow. 506 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's the best written, it's beautifully directed. 507 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: I think Michael Cattleman is just such a great director, 508 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: and we had great directors and he was an executive 509 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: producer for the first couple of years. So this, this show, 510 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: in this first couple of seasons, really has Michael Cattleman's 511 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: stamp on it. And you know, I just remember really 512 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: loving working with him and thinking that his episodes were 513 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: just really you know, just crackling good. 514 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, as they say, there's so much in it. 515 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: And you got a Palladino writing the script. You got 516 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: a Dan Palladino, you know, and it's just like the 517 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: talent here and again. And I'll say it to the 518 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 1: cows come home, because the cows, the cows come home, 519 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: and then they leave and then they come back. I 520 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: just marveled a not at what I was doing in 521 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: the show. I just marveled at the opportunity that I 522 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: got to be in that show, and I got to 523 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: be in these scenes. You know, you see this this 524 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: side of Luke that comes out when he hugs me, right, 525 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: this loving, welcoming guy, and then he switch his gears 526 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: and he's he's getting getting tense with Taylor at the counter, 527 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: and then he pops in the in the town hall 528 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: meeting and Ben he's a great friend, and in the 529 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: kitchen with Laurel I repairing the. 530 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: Headless goat that he can go from zero to ten 531 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 3: like that, right, And. 532 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: Just so much fun to play it, and so lucky 533 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: to have been asked to do that. So just really 534 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: loving the show and so grateful, just so full of gratitude. 535 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: And I know people hear that and they roll their eyes, 536 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: but man, I mean, just the more time that goes by, 537 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: the more I appreciate this, you know. And you know, 538 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: I was in Idaho recently at a comic con and 539 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: I got to meet all the fans. You know, these fans, 540 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: they're newly minted fans, right. There's fans that have been 541 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: loyal since two thousand, twenty five years of loyalty. And 542 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 1: there's fans that just discovered the show a couple months 543 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: ago or a couple of years ago, and they were 544 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: aware of it, but they never watched it. And then 545 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: they watch it and here they are at comic con 546 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: and they're sharing this energy with me, and they're just 547 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: so excited to be there and talk about the show 548 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: and share their experiences watching the show with their mom 549 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: or their family, or their boyfriend or their husband, their 550 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: dog or their cat. Right, I mean, it's they go 551 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: to sleep with it, the husbands and the boyfriends come 552 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: up to me, and my wife couldn't make it. I 553 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: just want you to I wanted she wanted me to 554 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: get a picture in an autograph with you and all 555 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: this stuff. So you know, you've basically taken over my bedroom. 556 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: And my wife falls asleep to this show now. 557 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: And my husband I caught him singing the song. He's 558 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 3: like a Harley Davidson. 559 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: I love these guys, man. I just give him a 560 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: hug and say, hang in there. 561 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 3: Man, I got nothing to my fourteen year old. 562 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: He loves right everybody. It's everybody. 563 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: We can watch it. 564 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. It's just an amazing phenomenon. I was 565 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: also in Oklahoma City's same thanks, same reaction. People have 566 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: been with the show twenty five years and or people 567 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: just discovered it. They just wanted to come and say 568 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: hello and celebrate. And it's just such a great engage, 569 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: passionate fan base and there's so much fun. And I 570 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: love going to these cons. I love going to these kinds. 571 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: This subculture totally. 572 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it's growing and growing and growing and growing. Anyway, 573 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: final thoughts, and give give me your take on the 574 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: entire seven seasons. Your your your your general take, on 575 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: the entire seven seasons, because I understand you just finished watching. 576 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 3: One hundred and fifty eight episodes. 577 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: No, really, one hundred and fifty seven, I think. 578 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 3: Oh was it seven? Okay? 579 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: Is there one hundred and fifty eighth of my God? 580 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: You're going to set that, oh story the Gilmour versus, 581 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: like where there's a missing episode? What is it? 582 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 3: Maybe only availed in Canada? 583 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, one fifty three, two thousand and two thousand and seven, 584 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: and then four Netflix, that's one fifty seven. Maybe it's one. 585 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 3: Sorry, maybe it one's fished, no worse, maybe I probably 586 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 3: dreamed one in my head. My final You know what, 587 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 3: here's a story of you know, real life, how real 588 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 3: these conflicts can show up in our real life and 589 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 3: how the fear and all these motions can just drive 590 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 3: what we do. But it's so important to dream, right 591 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 3: you know? That's that was really my takeaway, Like the 592 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 3: opportunities are there, we have choices, and some of the 593 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 3: dreams that Lora, Lei and Rory had and they get 594 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: to live it out, and the ones that didn't get 595 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 3: to do that, what was stopping them? You know? It 596 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be this way, right right? 597 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 598 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 3: So just because we are like this, we're scared, doesn't 599 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 3: mean we have to continue. Maybe it's not our fault, 600 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: but it's our responsibility to get over this fear and 601 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 3: live the dream we have. 602 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you must. It's a load you don't have to 603 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: carry anymore. That's right, you know, get rid of it. 604 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: And there's ways to do it. And Jennifer is one 605 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: of those people I am that is compassionate and caring 606 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: and trained by the way, yes, to help you shoulder 607 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: off that load, put it down, and learn how to 608 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: walk in strength going forward. 609 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, my book's been helpful to lots of people I've heard. 610 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,479 Speaker 1: Let's hold that book up again. Let's see that book. 611 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 3: It's a picture of me. Huh. Everything I can't say 612 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 3: in a session, I say it into here. So there's 613 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 3: lots of humor and tidbits all about conflict. 614 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: You can get that on Amazon. 615 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 3: Amazon, Yep, Jennifer Banks, Yes, follow me please. And there's 616 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 3: a lot of tips and tricks that I like to 617 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 3: share on TikTok and my socials. I just like helping people, 618 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 3: I really do. And it's a little bit about my story. 619 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 3: My husband, God love him, twenty years. This year wasn't 620 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 3: always easy. He broke his neck in two thousand and 621 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 3: three and that was the beginning of our story. Yeah, 622 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 3: so the burdens of what happens with chronic health issues, etc. Yeah, 623 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 3: but this was wonderful. 624 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: Jennifer Banks, thank you for coming on. One of the 625 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: world's protective angels. Right there. Ladies and gentlemen, get her 626 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: book and book an appointment if you need her, because 627 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: she's wonderful. I've seen her in action, folks, and she is. 628 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: She's one of the best. Jennifer Banks, thank you so 629 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: much for joining us. And that's going to wrap up 630 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: Season two, episode eight, the Ins and Outs of Inns. 631 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: Wonderful episode so far, my favorite, my new favorite anyway, 632 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: Jennifer Banks, thanks for joining us and that's good for us. 633 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: Our pleasure and come back any time, by the way, 634 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: I'd love to fascinating discussion. Fascinating discussion. Thanks Roy r. 635 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: Cards and letters and emails and thoughts. Keem com best 636 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: fans on the planet, bar none. Where you lead, we 637 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: will follow. Stay safe everyone, do hey everybody, and don't forget. 638 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast 639 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.