1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: What is up? Straight Fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, 3 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Monday, Febuary third. 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: It's Super Bowl week, ladies and gentlemen, and all anybody's 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: talking about is the NBA, because holy cow, what a 6 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: weekend in the NBA. 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: And I'll talk about games. We're back on that you know, 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: mid twenty teen stuff where players are moving hot and 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: heavy and folks, I have to be honest with you. 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: I was the wife was out of town this weekend, 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: so I'm watching movies with the kids. We're watching this 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: movie called air Bud from like I don't know, before 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: Rob was even born, probably, and you know, it's a 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: dog that ends up playing sports and it's a whatever movie. 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: But I didn't have my phone. I wasn't looking at 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: it wasn't lit up, and at one point, you know, 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: the kid had to go to the bathroom or something. 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: So I just take a glance at the phone and 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: I see all these texts. I'm like, what the And 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: the first one I saw is a buddy of mine 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: who is a great basketball player, and he's like a 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: coach and a rat. He's just an awesome guy. And 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: he goes, I normally wouldn't ask you this, but I 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: gotta say, is this true? Did we? And that's how 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 2: everybody out here refers to laters? Did we just get Luca? 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, come on, no way. So I 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: go on the other text message and all it is 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: is exclamation mark and I'm just telling you this is 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: a touring Saturday. And I'm like, holy god, guys, guys, 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: stop tell my kids. I'm like, stop, top top paw. 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: We're not going back to the movie. And it was 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: just utter chaos and like disbelief, like I was in 33 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: a trance for a couple moments. They're like, there's no 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: way this is real. It actually you know how people 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: are like, oh it felt like a dream. It did 36 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: feel like a dream, Like oh my gosh, how what No, No, 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: it's impossible. And then you start to put everything together 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: and you read these reports trickling out of Dallas and unbelievable. 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: So then I go to coach my kids Sunday in 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: hoops and you know, you walk into the gym and 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: I wore la This sounds so illusory. I wore a 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Lakers T shirt and a Laker sweatshirt. So I take 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: off the Lakers sweatshirt. I got the T shirt, and 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: everybody's like, g back, Oh my god, we got Luca. Folks, 45 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: if I talk to fifty people and I coach back 46 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: to back games, you know I'm a nerd and I 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: care about this stuff. I'm let's say I said hi 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: to fifty people, I would say, you know, thirty of 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: them asked about Luca. One hundred percent of them are 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: absolutely stoked that the Lakers got who I believe is 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: the best player in the NBA. And I've said this 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: for a while. Yes, Jokic is dominant and he's awesome. 53 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: Given Lucas hurt, Yokis probably right now is the best 54 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 2: play in league. But I've been saying this for years, 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: dating back to when I would co host undisputed Lucas 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: the best player in the league. I'm sorry. It ain't 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: Lebron anymore. It's not Jokic, it's not Sga or Embiid. 58 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: It's Luca. And I believe this for the longest time. 59 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: And for the Lakers to get a twenty five year old, 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: utterly dominant player in his prime who just took the 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: MAVs to the finals, it feels like the biggest heist 62 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: in NBA history, and we've seen some other crazy trades. 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: This is, by the way, totally different than when Kevin 64 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: Durant picked the Warriors. That's Kevin Durant picking the Warriors. Okay, 65 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: Lebron picking the heat I'm taking my talents to South Beach. 66 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: That's free agency. This is the Dallas Mavericks who just 67 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: went to the finals, willingly saying, yeah, we love Luca, 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: but we're worried about his conditioning and you know, the 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: looming Supermax. It's gonna be tough to win with him 70 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: on this and to use that as oh, we could 71 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: trade Luca and then we bring in one of the 72 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: best defenders in the league, top three defender in Anthony 73 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: Davis defense wins championship said they're GM for now. Nico 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: Harrison and I don't know if you guys saw the 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: press conference, but like Nico Harrison is sitting there next 76 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: to Jason Kid, Jason Kidd looks like he's seen a ghost, 77 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: and at one point he because like, yeah, Jay Kid, 78 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: he didn't even know, like nobody seemed to know. And 79 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do a TikTok at this point 80 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: of how it went down. But the best intel I 81 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: can find is this dates back to a January seventh 82 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: MAVs Lakers game where you know, Luca had been hurt 83 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: on the twenty fifth of December Christmas Day. He had 84 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: the calf strain and he was in you know, one 85 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: of those like scooters or whatever, and it was like, 86 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: oh jeez, a calf strain. He's on a scooter. This 87 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: is not good. Oh my gosh. And you know, he 88 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: looked like he gained a couple of pounds. And Luca 89 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: is one of these yo yo guys with his weight. 90 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: He looks heavy, he's not. And one wonders did they 91 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: see eating habits of Luca post Christmas? They know him 92 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: better than anybody. I don't want anybody out here saying that, 93 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: like the Dallas Mavericks see this guy in and out 94 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: of the all the time. Okay, they know him better 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: than us, and they were willing to move off of 96 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: him because of diet concerns. Folks, that is one of 97 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: the most chicken shit laughable excuses I've ever heard. I 98 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: instantly went to the default of, oh my gosh, did 99 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: that Did Lucas sleep with somebody? 100 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: Owners? 101 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: What? Like? 102 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: What happened? Here, how do you do that? And you, 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: guys know I'm a Luca fanboy. I'm over the moon. 104 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: I mean, think about it like this. I don't even 105 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: care if the Lakers win a title this year or not. Okay, 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter. They are now set for the 107 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: next seven to ten years, at least with Luka Dancic 108 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: and yes, Lebron, who had a phenomenal game Saturday night 109 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: at the Garden. I think it was like thirty three, 110 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: twelve and eleven. He was spectacular, no Ad and Lebron 111 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: cooks and Lakers at a billion threes and beat the 112 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: Knicks and you're like, oh, Lebron, he can still do it. 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: You know, I can't do it much longer. If this 114 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: is Ron's final year in La now, I don't think 115 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: it will be. I'm gonna go ahead and assume he's 116 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 2: gonna want some kind of send off if this is 117 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: his final year, though, oh my gosh. If you're the Lakers, 118 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: you now have your new build around piece. You couldn't 119 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: build around Anthony Davis. Guys, he's i would say, at 120 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: the tail end of his prime at thirty one, and yeah, yeah, 121 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: he could be good for a couple of Warriors. You 122 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: can't build around Anthony Davis if you're the Lakers after Lebron. 123 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: I know, Rob Polink is the most much maligned GM 124 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: in the league. He takes more shrapnel from Laker fans 125 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: than anybody. And by the way, I find it interesting 126 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 2: that Anthony Davis has been chirping and complaining for the 127 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: last few weeks. Oh out replay center, we need another 128 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: big It's very interesting that Ad felt so emboldened to do. 129 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: I think Rob can check me on this. I think 130 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: he did a sit down interview with ESPN where he 131 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: complained about not having a babe next to him, and 132 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: it's like, man, I know he's with Claude and Clutches, 133 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: Lebron and Lebron and there's all this rumors that they 134 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: run the Lakers, folks. Anthony Davis just really popped off 135 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: and he got shipped. He got shipped FedEx to Dallas. Now, like, 136 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: in the short term, I believe Dallas could be good. 137 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 2: I think dallasa win the title this year, assuming everybody's healthy. 138 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: They're in greg shape. You know, I know they lost 139 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: by seventy five points or whatever the number was on Sunday, 140 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,559 Speaker 2: where the team, you know, sat a lot of guys, 141 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: but they they look like a team that was shell 142 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: shocked and oh, my gosh, we traded Luca. What like 143 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: the videos I don't know if you guys saw these 144 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: around the league of players reacting. I saw one on 145 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: the bench. Somebody handed Kevin Durant a tablet and him 146 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: and Bradley Biler are looking and they're like what They're 147 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: just looking around like the no, no, no, Like the 148 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: look is one of these like holy cow? And I 149 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: think that's the general consensus around the league is that, 150 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: my gosh, what did the Mavericks do? Now? If we're 151 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: doing a who won the trade? I think in the 152 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: very s your term this season, the Mavericks could end 153 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: up looking better. And you know, everybody's a hot take artist, 154 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: and oh my gosh, that the MAVs go to the 155 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: Western Conference finals. They want the trade. Folks think about 156 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: the big picture. The Lakers for whatever reason, And I 157 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: had some dopes texting me, Oh, I'm not texting dming me. 158 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Oh, Lakers league is rigged. 159 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: Why did the Lakers always get the best players? I 160 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: mean they did pull off I mean Magic Johnson in 161 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: the draft after they had already been good to get 162 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: Magic Johnson. Was sheer luck for them to land James 163 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: Worthy in the draft out of unc where he was awesome, 164 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: was sheer luck for them? Now Shaq picked them, so 165 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: that's not a big deal. But for them to land Kobe, 166 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: Kobe kind of threatened I'm not going to go to Charlotte. 167 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 2: You guys can remember that. For them to steal Pauga 168 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: sol and now this it definitely I'm not saying rigged 169 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: or any of that. It definitely feels like Rob Polinka 170 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: here may have pulled off greatest trade in the NBA 171 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: this century. I mean, I don't know that. Maybe two 172 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: incendiary Rob, But when you really look at the Lakers 173 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: and what they're set up for, like you got nothing 174 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: to worry about now, Okay, the wasteland of the ending 175 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 2: Kobe years and the up and down Lebron years, they're 176 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: gonna be Lakers, gonna be fine with Luca they are 177 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: now building around him, is gonna be fun and that'll 178 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: be you know, exciting. What are we gonna do? Who 179 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: are we gonna get? But you know, as of right now, 180 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: it's Monday, February third, you're looking at because Lucas still 181 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: out Austin Reeves Dalton connect because what's his name? Max 182 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 2: Christy got shipped Ruy Lebron and Jackson Hayes. You've got 183 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: guys like Shake, Milton Gabe, Vincent DFS, Van Do there's 184 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: probably another trade coming and you know, we'll get to 185 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: that a little later on the pod. But Rob, before I, 186 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: you know, ask you your thoughts. I just I want 187 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: to go back to one day and that was and 188 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: I have it here in my notes. May thirty first, 189 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. You guys can look this up. The 190 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: MAVs had an amazing postseason win. I think they wrapped 191 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: up the series against OKAC, and Luca was in the 192 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: hallway drinking a beer. And you guys can look this 193 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: video up. It's been out there. It was joked about 194 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: at the time, and now it doesn't look as funny. 195 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: And he's drinking a beer talking to someone who might 196 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: have been his dad, I don't know, and Michael Finley, 197 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: who I believe is the assistant GM at the MAVs, 198 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: comes up to Luca and takes the beer out of 199 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: his hand. Now they had just won, so Luca was 200 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: more like what you know, smiling and laughing about it, 201 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: like okay, but you have to wonder were the MAVs 202 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: so concerned about Luca that after a win he could 203 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: not consume an alcoholic beverage. Now, I'm sure Michael Finley 204 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: will say, oh, we didn't want the cameras catching him drinking. Guys, 205 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: there's locker rooms with champagne spraying left and right in 206 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: every sport. Baseball does that every round stop. 207 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 208 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 209 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 210 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: listen live. 211 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: I get the sense that the MAVs thought they couldn't 212 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: control Luca, his diet, his conditioning, everything, and they wanted 213 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: to sew badly, but couldn't that. They just said, let's 214 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 2: get him out of town. Let's make him someone else's problem. 215 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: And wrapping up, Luca's dad gave an interview over the 216 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: weekend and Araschmarkazi put the whole thing on social media 217 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: and they ended up getting the conversion in language. Luca's 218 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: dad said, I know people say he doesn't play a 219 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: lot of regular season games. Last season, Luca played seventy 220 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: regular season games, averaging thirty five minutes and remember he's 221 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: running the offense, points, rebounds, as syst he's run the show. 222 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: Then he played twenty two playoff games forty minutes a game, 223 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: carrying this team. That's ninety two games got them to 224 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: the finals, and they still were unhappy with him enough 225 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: to ship him. I don't want to hear the super 226 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: max excuse, like, figure it out. That's your job as 227 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: a front office. Like, if I'm a Dallas Mavericks fans, 228 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: I'm rate. If I'm a Dallas Mavericks fan, I'm irate 229 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: that you just shipped off a generational talent, a guy 230 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: who and you, guys can deny me all you want. 231 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: He's gonna end up being a top ten player in 232 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: the history of the sport, assuming he doesn't miss, you know, 233 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 2: five seasons because of injury. He's on track to be 234 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: a top ten player all time in the NBA. And 235 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: for the MAVs to ship him, I saw hilarious. One 236 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 2: of these memes have been really, really good. The NBA 237 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: fans are just so on it. It was the words 238 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: were generational fumble and it was a picture of Jalen 239 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: Brunson in the MAVs jersey and Luca in his MAVs Jersey. 240 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: I guess their their first year and the MAVs had 241 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: those two that right now is two of the ten 242 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: best players in the league and they're both gone. 243 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, this is a lot to digest. And 244 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 4: you know, I know we're probably what twenty four hours 245 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: since this happened or less than that forty eight hours. 246 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: This is a trade that people are gonna be talking 247 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: about for years and decades to come. Everyone's gonna remember 248 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: where they were when this trade came down. Not just 249 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: because it's the Lakers, which is usually kind of the 250 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 4: thing that happens. It's because the Lakers got another in 251 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: your prime all world player for what people think is nothing, 252 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: even though I think that's kind of true. Truck with 253 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: Anthony Davis, that's a different conversation. Yes, Luka, Doncic is pudgy. 254 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 4: You know who else's pudgy, Nikola jokicch Jokich, Yeah, you 255 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 4: know who else's pudgy? Patrick Mahomes. So that tells me, 256 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: in order if you want to be an all time great, 257 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: you got to be a little overweight. That's what it 258 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: tells me. Okay, even with all of his yo yoing weight, 259 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: and you know, concerns about his health and his eating happen, 260 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 4: whatever they're trying to spin out of Dallas at the 261 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 4: age of twenty five, five time All Star, five time 262 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 4: First Team All NBA Rookie of the Year, second all 263 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 4: time in playoff points per game, sixth all time playoff 264 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 4: triple doubles, seventh all time in career triple doubles, and 265 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: since he's been in the league, this is my favorite 266 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: stat twenty nine to nine and eight, first in the 267 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 4: NBA points per game, second in the NBA in assists 268 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: per game. If that's what an out of shape Luka 269 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 4: Doncic looks like, I'm scared to imagine what a healthy 270 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 4: Luka Doncic looks like. The Lakers, as much as I'm excited, 271 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: you know, the hashtag future, they came true again, by 272 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: the way, because I had this back in twenty twenty. 273 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: Don't want to pat myself on the back, but I 274 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: did have this shots as excited as Amabel Luka Doncic, 275 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: and you pointed this out. In the short term, this 276 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: is probably not an improvement this season because until we 277 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 4: find out what's gonna happen here in the next three 278 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: or four days, the Lakers might have the worst center 279 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: situation in the NBA. And if they're gonna start Austin 280 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: reason Luka Doncics, as long as they might have the 281 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: worst defensive backcourt in the NBA. Hey, Austin Reeves can 282 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: lock some people up, Okay, So in the short term, 283 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: that's a problem. This trade, though, is not made with 284 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: a short term in mind. This trade was made for 285 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: the first time in about five or six years with 286 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 4: the post Lebron James era in mind. Now, when you 287 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: look at the Lakers, and the Lakers brand already sells 288 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: itself for the most part, you are gonna have a 289 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: smack dab in the middle of his prime, top three 290 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: at worst NBA player Luka Doncic as your face of 291 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: the franchise. And if they play their cards right in 292 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven, when Lebron is retired, 293 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: they are gonna have enough cap space for at least 294 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: one other MAX player, if not two. 295 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too early to speculate who that could be. 296 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: But Rob, do you remember last week when you and 297 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: I did I forget what day it was, and we 298 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: were like, I feel like something's brewing. Yes, in the NBA, 299 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: and reporters that alluded to something cooking, and my guest 300 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: was Kevin Durant. Remember that, Yep, nobody could have guessed Luca. 301 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 4: Nobody, no, and even I said, I said, the only 302 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: other name that would kind of make sense for twenty 303 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: six would be Luca, but that would need something. We 304 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: have to go completely sideways for it to happen. I 305 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 4: did not imagine sideways being a rogue general manager. This 306 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: was my favorite clip that was circulating on Sunday morning. 307 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: You're in the West Coast, okay, Nico Harrison to the 308 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 4: media said out loud, like whoever's working MAVs PR had 309 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: to be fuming because he There's so many ways you 310 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: could have spun this. You could have been like, hey, 311 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: Luca alluded to the idea that he wasn't gonna resign. 312 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: We want to get ahead of this. Luca, you know, 313 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 4: has been hurt a lot, and this is something we 314 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: wanted to get ahead of because we're worried about his 315 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 4: long term health with the franchise and if we're gonna 316 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: give him super Max, you know, we don't want that 317 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 4: kind of situation overheads. He said this with a straight 318 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 4: face to the media, with microphones and cameras pointed at him. 319 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 4: Number one, when he asked Rob Polinka about the idea 320 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 4: of trading for Luka Doncic, Polinka initially thought he was 321 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: messing with him. Okay. Number two, when he floated the 322 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: idea of trading Luka Doncic up the flagpole to MAVs ownership, 323 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 4: the owner laughed at him. First. Number three, At no point, 324 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 4: according to Nico Harrison, MAVs GM the guy who made 325 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 4: this move happen seemingly out of nowhere. Luca never suggested 326 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: that he wanted out of Dallas or gave any indication 327 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 4: that he wasn't going to sign the Supermax. And last, 328 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 4: but not least, he closes his media availability by saying, 329 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 4: I'm not too concerned about ten years from now because 330 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 4: I'll probably be gone anyways. 331 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: Bro, that's a bad, bad look. 332 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 4: Like And again this a lot is being made that 333 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 4: they got the Lakers got Luca for a bag of 334 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 4: potato chips. 335 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: But no, stop, that's not accurate, right, Come on, Max. 336 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: Chrispy is a legitimate up and coming three and D player, 337 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 4: and Anthony Davis at right now is a top ten 338 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: player no matter which way. 339 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 2: But what's the problem with that is they have Anthony Davis, 340 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: Lively and Gafford. Are you really gonna play a d 341 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: and one of those two bigs at the same time. 342 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 4: That's what ad wants. He wants another center, but he 343 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: wants that. 344 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 2: Fine, give it to him, go for it. 345 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 4: But it's like you didn't get nothing in this deal. 346 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: That's that's so disrespectful to Anthony Davis to and sing you. 347 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: But they lost so much. But let me let me ask, 348 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: let me add this rock. So all these people out there, 349 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: these reporters, are saying, how could the MAVs not open 350 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: up a bidding war. If you were gonna trade Luca, 351 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: you could get every You could get way more than this. 352 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: That is just such an athetic and embarrassing way to 353 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: look at it. If you're being real, remember Luca would 354 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: have to sign an extension after next season. I hate 355 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: to report this to you guys, but you can instantly 356 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: wipe out twenty five teams Luka and sign him with 357 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 2: long term I'm sorry, he's not going to the Sacramento Kings. Yeah, 358 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: we'll get there. The Deer and Fox getting shipped and 359 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: getting Levine shortly. Luca's not going to the Detroit Pistons. 360 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: He's not going to the Brooklyn. He's just not doing that, Okay, 361 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: So you instantly I narrowed it down, Rob, and I 362 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: came up with this list of teams that Luca probably 363 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: would have signed with long term if the Maps had 364 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: to open it up. I would say the Celtics, right, 365 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: Celtics are awesome golfront franchise, a lot of good players. 366 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: I would say the Knicks Marquee market. You know, I 367 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: think that could have worked. I think the Miami Heat 368 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: would certainly be in Luke in the Lucas Weepstakes. 369 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 4: No, no, he can't handle he culture. You just said 370 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 4: he's out of shape, like they have a rule that's 371 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 4: got to be under like. 372 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: And the final one. And I'm only putting this out 373 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: there because it's Los Angeles and that's the paper clips. Now, 374 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: I don't even know if they would have been in 375 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 2: the mix because historically they're just so well well, poorly 376 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: run and there's the curse. So now it's like basically 377 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: like what you know, if if you want to say, Jason, 378 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: what about Denver? He would love to play with the 379 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: o K Just stop, Who on earth would the MAVs 380 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: want in return? Which is why this makes it so difficult. 381 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: The Lakers had someone that the MAVs wanted ad a 382 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: top ten player in the league, top fifteen, I'll go 383 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: top fifteen maybe this season, but the injuries, he's been 384 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: top ten injuries to other guys. But like, I don't 385 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: think the return was awful. The problem is you're just 386 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: losing a generational talent and like, oh, you could say, well, 387 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 2: what about one big y'all, but Luca would play with him? Okay, 388 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: who the hell do the Spurs have outside of Wemby 389 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: that the MAVs would want And the answer is nothing. 390 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, there's just not a lot 391 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: of options for a deal like this. Now, did they 392 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: pull the trigger too early? I would say yes. That 393 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: being said, you know, Rob, if we're being one hundred 394 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: percent honest, you and I are both Laker fans. I 395 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: think in the back of your mind there has to 396 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: be some level of concern about Luca's conditioning. Not a 397 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: significant one, certainly, not enough to deter me from pulling 398 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: the trigger on the deal, but yeah, mild concerned. I mean, 399 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: this calf strain that's obviously not great, and he hasn't 400 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: been back. They were saying maybe by the All Star break. 401 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: No rush on my end there. Hell, I would just 402 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 2: hold him out until he's one hundred thousand percent ready. 403 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: And Rob, we know anytime Lebron gets with somebody, he 404 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: gets him in the gym and Lebron, I know, there's 405 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: a heat culture, there's a Lebron culture. You better work 406 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: your ass off. And I don't see Luca just like 407 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: being slack and not giving the effort with the Lakers because, oh, 408 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: by the way, he's a little motivated that the MAVs 409 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: cost him one hundred million dollars with that Supermax that 410 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: he's no longer eligible for because he's been traded. So 411 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: I think Luca a motivated Luca is probably the scariest 412 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: player in the NBA. 413 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: Oh, he's certainly up there. And just to go back 414 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: to the point about the Lakers and the trade, because 415 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 4: I was listening to another podcast where they were saying, 416 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 4: if you're gonna trade a guy who's a top five player, 417 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 4: which Luca obviously is, you either got to do one 418 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 4: of two things. Number One, you got to bottom out 419 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 4: and just get all the draft picks, which the MAVs 420 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 4: obviously you are not gonna do because they just signed 421 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 4: Klay Thompson, they got Kyrie Irvy. The rest of the 422 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: roster is too good for you to completely bought him out. 423 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: So that's number one. Number two. If you're not gonna 424 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: get that, you want to get somebody or a collection 425 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: of guys that are right in that tier below and 426 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 4: Anthony Davis. Anyway, whether you have him at ten or fifteen, 427 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 4: however you have him, we can all concede that if 428 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: he's not one of the five best players in the NBA, 429 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 4: he's somewhere in that next group, somewhere in there. 430 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: You have him five. 431 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 4: No he's not, but I'm saying like that. That's so 432 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: it would make sense why you would go for that. 433 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: The issue that I have though, again, if I'm playing 434 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: Devil's advocate for Dallas, is ad is six years older 435 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 4: with a checkered injury history. So not only do I 436 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 4: need Anthony Davis in that trade, I'm gonna need both 437 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 4: of those first round picks, not just one. And I'm 438 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 4: probably gonna need Austin Reeves just to get the conversation going. 439 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised they they said, you know what I mean. 440 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 4: So that's why it felt like they over that they 441 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 4: that they did not get as much as they potentially 442 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: could in that situation. 443 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think the Lakers just were like, hey, 444 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 2: Austin Reeves is a non starter, Like, I why wouldn't 445 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: you go for Reeves? 446 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't. 447 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: He's great. 448 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 4: When this trade first came out, and and you know, 449 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: no one believed it right because they thought it was 450 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 4: everyone thought it was a fake Seaman's he got hacked whatever. Yeah. Yeah, 451 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 4: when I saw the terms, I'm like, that sounds like 452 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 4: what I would first counter with if I'm the Lakers, Like, okay, 453 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: I will give you Anthony Davis, like what you want back, 454 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: And it seemed to be like that was the guy 455 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: they targeted this entire process, and I will take MAXI 456 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: Kleeber's terrible contract, but I'm not going to give you 457 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: Austin Reeves. I'll give you Max Christy instead. And instead 458 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 4: of like countering again, it seemed like he goes, all right, deal, 459 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 4: we got our guy, we got eight That's what we 460 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: really wanted. And so it's just a weird situation. As 461 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 4: far as like the Luca is out of shape, that's 462 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 4: definitely a thing. But the way he plays, he's never 463 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 4: been reliant on being in shape to begin with. Honestly, 464 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 4: I could argue that him putting on those extra ten 465 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: to fifteen pounds that he did over the last two 466 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 4: or three years has made him a better player because 467 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 4: it made it impossible for any guards to guard him. 468 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 4: You have to have a three, four, even a five 469 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 4: man check him, and he's too creative for most of 470 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 4: those guys to stay in front of him. Like you 471 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 4: can't have a you know, a Drew Holiday type. You 472 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 4: can't have a bad exapt bat BEV type guard him 473 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 4: because he's too big. He's just too It's just not 474 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 4: gonna work. Like guarding him with Lebron James, it's not 475 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 4: gonna work. You've got to put some size on him, 476 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: and he's too crafty for most of the guys who 477 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 4: were his size. 478 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 2: It's tough. I did. I tried not to read a 479 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: lot because on you know, opinions on this trade because 480 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: I want my I don't want mine to be colored 481 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: by that. But I did see a guy named Kevin 482 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: Pelton grades the trades every single trade in the NBA. 483 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: He graded the Lakers in a Maverick's got an. 484 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 4: F which mean is a little harsh, but let's be real. 485 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: You know, in the short term, I do love it. 486 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: I just I don't know about the long term. I 487 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 2: do want to add I was a little off on 488 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: the one hundred million dollars so Luca the super Max 489 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: would have paid him five years, three hundred and forty 490 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: five mil. The Lakers can sign him for two hundred 491 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 2: and twenty nine mil, so it's actually more than one 492 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: hundred mili. It's one hundred and sixteen million. Now. According 493 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: to some of these cap guys, Luca can opt out 494 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: after next season, and according to the story, several teams, 495 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: including the Miami Heat rob are expected to make a 496 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: maximum offer to Luca and others. There's no way the 497 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: Lakers are letting him go that now, that would Rob 498 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: Alink would be really, really in a bad spot. But 499 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: let me ask this one. This is kind of a 500 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: tough angle because what do you do you think Lebron 501 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 2: is hurt or happy by this? And I asked that 502 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: because he and A D were boys, he brought a 503 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 2: D to the Lakers, and by all intents, he was 504 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: not roped in on this deal. And I know people 505 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: are like, no way Lebron sold everything. I'm sorry, I'm 506 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and believe Lebron was not in the 507 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: know here, and I'll back it up with this. The 508 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: Lakers were on the road, so it's not like he 509 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: was in the facility. Okay. Lebron was playing great. The 510 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: Lakers had a great win over the Knicks. AD's been hurt, 511 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: so he hasn't. I don't think he traveled with the team. 512 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: Did he was he there? I don't think he was 513 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 2: at MSc okay, So like Lebron being away from it, like, 514 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: I don't think they Maybe they called him and gave 515 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 2: him a heads up, like five minutes before it was 516 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: leaked to the media, but I don't think they were like, hey, Lebron, 517 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 2: what do you think about this deal? I don't think 518 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 2: that happened, do you what do you think? 519 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 4: My first reaction is no, No, it's that he didn't know, okay, 520 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: And it's for two reasons. Number One, Rich Paul, as 521 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 4: much as we say that he's Lebron's guy, he also 522 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 4: represents like twenty five percent of the NBA and a 523 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 4: lot of the max players. If Rich Paul was really 524 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: that deep in Lebron's pockets and ensuring that all things 525 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 4: led through Lebron, then we want to get this Zach 526 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 4: Levine would not end up in Sacramento, you know what 527 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 4: I mean, Like, that's not the kind of stuff that 528 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 4: would happen, you know. So, And number two, this is 529 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: probably the biggest one, and he alluded to it in 530 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 4: the opening of the podcast. In the short term, this 531 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 4: is a hit to the Lakers. This is not aball hit. Yeah, 532 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 4: bro saying like this roster as it stands, like they 533 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: got to make deals in the next couple of days, 534 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: does not make sense because you cannot play Lebron, Austin 535 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 4: Reeves and Luka Doncic and defend anybody in the NBA 536 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 4: with Jackson Hayes as your last line of defense. Like, 537 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: it doesn't work right. So, and as as I mentioned earlier, 538 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 4: when you acquire Luka Doncic, you give up Anthony Davis. 539 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 4: This is a trade made for the post Lebron era. 540 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 4: When has Lebron ever given a flying fuck about the 541 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 4: post Lebron era at any one of his stops? Right? 542 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 4: If he knew about this, I'm assuming he'd be the 543 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: kind of guy who's like, hey, give him all the picks, 544 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 4: give them Austin Reeves, give him pick swaps whatever me 545 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 4: Luca a D that's the three and minimum guy, Like, 546 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 4: that's the kind of thing Lebron wi wish for. I 547 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: don't think you would push to get their only big 548 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 4: and best, the best player for that regard traded for 549 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: Luka Doncic. 550 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 2: I have a question. So Luca's twenty five turns twenty 551 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: six this month, we're gonna go ahead and assume he's 552 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: going to sign the extension with the Lakers. 553 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: I think you get there. It's the smart people are 554 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 4: saying two plus one so that he can re up 555 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 4: again when he's a ten year VET and he gets 556 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: the maximum maximum. 557 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: Bottom line, I don't see him leaving the Lakers anytime soon. 558 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: People don't really leave the Lakers willingly. 559 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: Ok Right, Howard only one? Is that? 560 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: What? 561 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: I don't remember that? 562 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 4: To Houston? 563 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: Remember, Okay only he was still pretty good. 564 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 565 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 566 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 567 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: listen live. 568 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: Over under one and a half titles for Luca with 569 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: the Lakers. Oh gosh, remember he's gonna be twenty six 570 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: in February let's assume they don't win it this year. 571 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: But I'll be honest, I'm not ruling that out because 572 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: they might make another trade next Maybe they ship Ruy 573 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 2: and Reeves and get Miles Turner, whatever. I don't know, 574 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: but there's a world where healthy Luca, healthy Lebron. It's 575 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: a pretty nasty offense. Okay, over under one and a half. 576 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the under. I think he gets at 577 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 4: least one. So much of it, though, is gonna depend 578 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: on who he gets the second guy, because you know, 579 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 4: as we mentioned a minute ago, dearon Fox, say what 580 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 4: you want is now with Victor Wimbanyama is here and 581 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 4: he's coming, and so all roads are gonna lead through 582 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: him in the next fifteen years, right, Luca, h Nikola, 583 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 4: jokicch is still here, Giannis is still here. And until 584 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 4: we know otherwise, we're assuming Lebron is gonna retire in 585 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 4: the next year or two, you're gonna have Luka, Doncic 586 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 4: and Cap Space. I'm sure gonna get somebody, but until 587 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 4: we know who that is, it's hard for me to 588 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 4: say you're definitely gonnaet ATLEASTW championships. 589 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, now I know some Laker fans are concerned about that. 590 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: But let's let's kind of be real. You know, everybody 591 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: doubted Lebron when he got to the Lakers. They were 592 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: like a a not quite a tear down house. But 593 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: remember remember they had like Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram. 594 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 4: Angulius Randall, it was Josh Hart. 595 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: I'll say this Polinka, Now you can say it was Lebron. 596 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: But Pelinka remade this roster and they won a title 597 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: in the COVID year and they were competitive again that 598 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: they just ran into Jokic a couple of times. I 599 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 2: I'm not ruling out any I would go over one 600 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: and a half for Lebron. Let me quickly. I'm looking 601 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: at the two Huh for Luca. You said for Luca, 602 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: Yes for this, over one and a half for Luca. 603 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the twenty twenty six free agents. Okay, 604 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: I'll read them off. Dame Lillard probably gonna be too old, 605 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: Bradley bioh. I mean, if he wants to come Chase 606 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: Chase Ring Chase, you know, I think the Lakers would 607 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: take him a heartbeat. Jimmy Butler. These are all guys 608 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: in like their mid to late thirties. KD. Trey Young 609 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: is a young guy, but then then not bringing on Tredy. 610 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: He can't Tray can't play with Luca zach Lavine who 611 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: just got shipped to sack Town. Fred van Vliet, don't 612 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: need him, Kyrie Irving, James Harden. There's a billion free 613 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: agents in twenty twenty six. Dearon Fox DeAndre Ayton, who 614 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: if he's willing to take a bay cut and like 615 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: actually win playoff games, then yeah, go play with Luca 616 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: for Zingis Middleton, Randall Hartenstein. I just the combination of hey, 617 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: do you want to come play for the Lakers and oh, 618 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: by the way, they've got Luka Doncic. It's just like 619 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: say that out loud and you're just like wow. I mean, 620 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: and you know, twenty twenty six, I think Reddick's gonna 621 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: be there. I don't know about Bronnie and Bronnie and Lebron. 622 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: You know, I think Runce Lebron's gone. I don't I 623 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: don't know that Bronni's gonna have a roster spot. Although 624 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: you know, it might be tough to just say, oh, 625 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: your dad's gone and you're gone to that could be hard, man. 626 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: It's just it's a good time to be a Lakers fan. 627 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, well, ask where were you when you 628 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: heard the news? 629 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: Rob, I was putting my infant daughter to sleep, and 630 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 4: I'm getting all these text message alerts and I'm like, 631 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 4: it's just real, it's just real, and I'm like, of 632 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 4: course it's not real, like it's it's no, this doesn't 633 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 4: And then of course I'm like, you know, if Sham's 634 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: gonna put it out, he always has a graphic to 635 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 4: go with it, like this is always premeditated. And then 636 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 4: you know, five minutes later it's like, no, this is 637 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 4: real from Shaan's like that's exactly what a hacker would say. Yes, 638 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 4: this is Shams. This is what I'm like. I no, 639 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 4: I didn't believe it, but that's where I was. It 640 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 4: was dark in my house and I wanted to scream. 641 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: And on my phone people who I who don't I 642 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 4: don't normally talk to were calling me to be like 643 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 4: you believe we got Luka Dancic. I'm like, what's up, dude, 644 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 4: Like good to hear from you. But you mentioned the 645 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: free agent class right twenty six is outside of Luca 646 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven. You want to get the little tingle 647 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 4: in your loins right now. J Mac Oh, wait wait, 648 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 4: let's see, don't say Devin Booker. No, I don't know 649 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 4: that he would play with Luca anyway, given their history. 650 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: Cooper Flagnog just kidding, go for. 651 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 4: It, Okay, this is in the ascending order. Number three, 652 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell, oh oh, number two, This one I don't 653 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 4: think is very likely. 654 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: But Nikola Jokic, Yeah, unlikely. 655 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 4: And number one with a bullet because I think this 656 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 4: is going to fail spectacularly over the next two or 657 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: three years. Jannis. I think the goopbo oh, the hashtag 658 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 4: future Laker for Jian has already exists. You can check 659 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 4: my Twitter at the producer argy and I'm hitting about 660 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 4: seventy five percent from the field. I'm just saying twenty 661 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 4: twenty seven the triumvirate of Luca ar and Giannis Aar I. 662 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: I love me some Austin Reeves. I don't know if 663 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: they're gonna end up keeping him. By the way, all 664 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: this Miles Turner stuff, the Pacers are fourth in the East. 665 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 2: Why are they giving up a Miles Turner again? 666 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 4: Streets are saying because they can't afford to pay him 667 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 4: after the season. They got like ninety million tied up 668 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 4: in Siakam and Halliburton and apparently their ownership has never 669 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 4: gone over the luxury tax once. 670 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: So they have Thomas Bryant, Obi Toppin. I mean, you know, 671 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 2: would need some help, I think to win the East 672 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: this year. But they did push the Celtics. They did 673 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: eliminate the Knicks. I know the Knicks had a bunch 674 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 2: of injuries. The Sixers are I don't know if they're cooked, 675 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 2: but I mean there's Tyrese Max, He's trying to turn 676 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: things around. I don't think the Pacers are scared of 677 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: the Cabs, That's the thing. Are the Are they gonna 678 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 2: trade Miles Turner when they're top four in the East 679 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: to like does hell? 680 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: Like? 681 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: Does Halliburton and Reeves even fit? They've got nem Hard 682 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: Ben Matherin's having a good season. Nie smit. They got 683 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: a lot of guards. I don't I just I don't 684 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 2: see that happening. But so I don't know where the 685 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: big is that the Lakers get Rob You're all over 686 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: the Lakers message boards. Who else is there? 687 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: Well? 688 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 4: The pie and this guy of course is Myles Turner 689 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 4: because he's the guy who would just fit beautifully. 690 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, he can hit threes too. 691 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 4: The other two names that keep being mentioned the most 692 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 4: that are names you can like Robert Williams because he's 693 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 4: always hurt. People don't get too excited about it. In Portland. 694 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 4: Number one Clint Capella. He's readily available if you want 695 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 4: him very much. He's in Atlanta right now, you know, 696 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 4: lob threat. But the thing is like he doesn't do 697 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 4: anything but that, and he's he's as far as centers go, 698 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 4: if you're gonna go through yok. I think he's like 699 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 4: two hundred and twenty pounds. Yeah, like you know, it's 700 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 4: not really gonna work out for you. The other one, 701 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 4: who's even skinnier, but apparently he's the guy that you 702 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 4: can get had if you want him, because they're trying 703 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 4: to tank. They're trying to capture the flag as they say. 704 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 4: Uh in Brooklyn, Nick Claxton, Oh yeah, no, I would 705 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: take him in a heartbeat. Yeah, So you know, he 706 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 4: is similar. 707 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: Though to the skinny guy you just mentioned. Yeah, they're 708 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 2: both kind of on the thin side. Capella and but 709 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: it's it's an upgrade from Jackson Hayes, which. 710 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 4: Is right, Jackson Hayes and uh, Maxie Kleeber right now 711 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 4: are the Lakers center. 712 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: I like Maxie as a small ball five. I like him. 713 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 2: Markith Morris could be your you know thug to protect 714 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 2: Lebron and Luca. All right, let's we'll say the Chip 715 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: Kelly gr Raiders for tomorrow, but u or later in 716 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 2: the week. But let's just quickly hammer this out. Dearon 717 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: Fox is going to the San Antonio Spurs, as everybody predicted, 718 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: because that's what his agent, Rich Paul wanted. Deeron Fox 719 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 2: will play with Wemby in San Antonio and in a 720 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: three team deal. My man Zach Lavine, who I am 721 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: a huge fan of, you guys know this, also a 722 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: guy on my Men'sleague trains him and says, like just 723 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: Zaclovine's like the nicest dude. He's just not you know, 724 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: a lot of these NBA players, NFL players, baseball player's bricks, 725 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 2: rich guys not friendly Zaqulvine's not in that category. And 726 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 2: he will reunite with DeMar DeRozan in San in Sacramento 727 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: as the Kings try to make a push here to 728 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: get in the playoffs. I actually, I know this is 729 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 2: gonna sound crazy. I don't hate their roster, Malik Bunk, 730 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 2: Levine DeRozan. I like Devin Carter, Kean Ellis has shown 731 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: some things. Keegan Murray, I like Sabonis like I think 732 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: they're gonna be good. I think they're a playoff to you, 733 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna I don't know if 734 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: there are a like a win around in playoffs, but 735 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 2: I think they'll definitely. Currently, as of this moment, Sacramento 736 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: is tied with Golden State ten and eleven. Spurs are 737 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 2: at twelve, and Rob, I will say this, Dallas, they're 738 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: kind of cratering their ninth. And I know we both 739 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: said in the short term this is this AD thing 740 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: is a win, but listen, there's not a lot of 741 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 2: room for error. If something happens to say, Kyrie irving 742 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 2: for two weeks and I don't know when AD's coming back. 743 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: Maybe he's gonna have a bruised digo and have to 744 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: miss a couple more games, and Klay Thompson has his 745 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 2: ups and downs. I don't, Rob, I don't think it's 746 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: a lock that the MAVs make the playoffs. 747 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 4: Wow, I mean, you know February twenty fifth, Lakers host 748 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 4: the MAVs. You know here at the crypt I'm expecting 749 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 4: Ad to play. I expecting him like a thirty eight, 750 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 4: eighteen and six type game against US, like that's will 751 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 4: will Lucall be back? He should be. I mean all 752 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 4: indications where he was gonna come back before the trade 753 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 4: deadline for Dallas, but we'll see. As far as this 754 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 4: this Sacramento, chicag I mean, obviously clear win for the Spurs. 755 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 4: You know, you got the second guy now to go 756 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 4: with wenby By. They're gonna fit together beautifully. That's perfect 757 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 4: for the Kings. I like zach Lavine like you do. 758 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 4: But the three first round picks, they got a Charlotte 759 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 4: pick which will not convey this year, a twenty twenty 760 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 4: seven San Antonio Spurs first, which is if Wemby's here 761 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 4: late first round, and a twenty thirty one Minnesota pick 762 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 4: that is so far out we don't know. But even 763 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 4: still they have a what not even in his prime, 764 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards chilling. 765 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 2: And they got three second round picks too. 766 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they got second round picks, But the one 767 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 4: that that is crazy Chicago. I saw this that a 768 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 4: Bulls Beat writer put out late Sunday night in the 769 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 4: last calendar year the Bulls have traded away Zach Lavine 770 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 4: and Alice Caruso. They have acquired in those separate trades 771 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 4: zero additional picks from what they had moving forward, because 772 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 4: the only pick they got back in this Levine deal 773 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 4: is one the Spurs gave back to them from a 774 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 4: previous I think Demarta Rosen trade. What are they doing 775 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 4: in Chicago? 776 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 2: Who's it? I don't even know who the GM there 777 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 2: isn't a European guy. 778 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 4: Think, I don't know who it is? But can we 779 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 4: just buy out Lonzo Ball? Let them come home. For 780 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 4: the Lakers, just let him shoot him over. 781 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 2: Oh I see Kevin Herder aka Red Velvet was in 782 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 2: that deal. There was a moment in Atlanta where he 783 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: was like a thing. 784 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 4: And it's just fallen off precipitously. 785 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's twenty six, marilynd kid. 786 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 787 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 2: Anyways, I don't know. I would not be shocked if 788 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: the Maxi miss the playoffs because Rob, there's just not 789 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 2: a lot of roote, Like who's their creator? If something 790 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: happens to Kyrie for two weeks, like they don't have 791 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 2: to Yeah, I don't know what they have hm And 792 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: And for the Lakers, that's that's the one thing. Rob. 793 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 2: It's like, let's say, you know, Lakers don't get back 794 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 2: Luca back anytime soon, and they and they lose in 795 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: the play in, it doesn't even matter. This is a 796 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 2: long term deal. This is like a buy and hold 797 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 2: stock yep, except it's one of the best players in 798 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: the league. I don't know. I just love this for 799 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 2: the Lakers, and. 800 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 4: Man, can I just slide in one thing before we 801 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 4: wrap this up? Please do so? Late Sunday night lost 802 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 4: in all this Luca trade A d Levigne, Dan Anon Fox, 803 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 4: all this stuff is happening. Friend of the Show Brian 804 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 4: Wenthorse tweets out that talks between the Heat and the 805 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 4: Warriors involving Jimmy Butler have ended for now because Jimmy 806 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 4: Butler is indicating he's unwilling to sign an extension with 807 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 4: Golden State. Who's advising my guy playoff? Jimmy, where does 808 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 4: he want to go? He wants to go to Phoenix, 809 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 4: but nobody wants. Bradley beal like likes like you're trying 810 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 4: to make fetch happen. It's not gonna happen, Jimmy. I mean, 811 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 4: I don't know, man. This might be some of the worst. 812 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 4: I thought Nico Harrison at bad PR. Jimmy Butler might 813 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 4: have the worst PR team in the history of the NBA. 814 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 2: Just didn't want to sign an extension. He just wants 815 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: everything that's not great. All right, listen, Rob, exciting stuff. 816 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: I know everybody's nervous about the NFL season ending, and ah, 817 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 2: what are they going to talk about? Well, I think 818 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 2: we're good now for a little bit. And that doesn't 819 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 2: even include Jimmy Butler, the return of Luca, the return 820 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: of ad Oh, the NBA never a dull moment. We're 821 00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 2: back tomorrow.