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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 1: generation warfare.

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, This.

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Speaker 3: Is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic.

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Speaker 4: Christ is of the fifty one clemency warrants issue during

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Speaker 4: the Biden presidency, Over half thirty two in total were

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Speaker 4: signed with an autopin, including the pre preemptive pardons of

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Speaker 4: members of the Biden family, doctor Anthony Fauci, General Mark Millie,

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Speaker 4: and more that were issued in the final days of

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Speaker 4: the Biden presidency.

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Speaker 5: The Federal Appeals Court is allowing President Donald Trump to

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Speaker 5: maintain control over thousands of members of California's National Guard.

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Speaker 5: The court ruled that Trump lawfully exercised his authority under

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Speaker 5: federal law.

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Speaker 6: Democrat led states facing budget crises are moving to cut

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Speaker 6: health care funding for illegal immigrants. The progressive governors of California, Illinois,

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Speaker 6: and Minnesota. They are moving to roll back or freeze

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Speaker 6: programs that extended state funded healthcare to people who entered

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Speaker 6: the country illegally. Massive immigration raid at a pot farm.

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Speaker 7: This may be the largest mass arrest yet since the

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Speaker 7: ICE began its recent raids.

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Speaker 5: Here immigration raids across southern California today as federal agents

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Speaker 5: target laborers, day laborers, and street vendors.

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Speaker 8: The israel Defense Forces did release this still image here

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Speaker 8: a short time ago that does say that fighter jets

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Speaker 8: struck several Iranian missile systems and radar installations in the

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Speaker 8: areas of Tehran and over in Isfahan. They also hit

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Speaker 8: several industrial sites used to manufacture missiles in the Tehran

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Speaker 8: area and those served as a key industrial center for

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Speaker 8: the Iranian Ministry of Defense.

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Speaker 9: Well, Ladies and Joe, and welcome aboard today's Edison Human

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Speaker 9: Events Daily. We're here live in Washington, d C. Today's

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Speaker 9: June twelve, twenty five Anno Dominique. Folks, The neo cons

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Speaker 9: are in panic mode, absolute panic mode breaking out across

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Speaker 9: all of Washington, d C.

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Speaker 2: As the warmongers, the scent com blob Toadies.

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Speaker 9: And all the rest are hearing and the reality is

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Speaker 9: settling in that they may not be getting the big

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Speaker 9: war that they wanted. They may not be getting the

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Speaker 9: big war that they were hoping would fill their coffers,

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Speaker 9: because the minute they.

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Speaker 2: Saw those arrows go up on those maps.

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Speaker 9: The minute they saw jets and fighters streaking across the

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Speaker 9: middle leaves. They said they could hear the sound of

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Speaker 9: the cash registers kaching ka ching, and the warmongers heard

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Speaker 9: all of it.

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Speaker 2: And now we're going to get into this today.

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Speaker 9: We warned that this is becoming a war of air

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Speaker 9: attrition because you can't escape the math, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 9: you can't escape the math. The Iron Dome was not

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Speaker 9: designed for sustained, high intensity military conflict. It was designed

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Speaker 9: for small scale attacks from hamas. And so with what

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Speaker 9: Iran is doing requires a lot of money and a

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Speaker 9: lot of ammunition in terms of these interceptor missiles that

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Speaker 9: unfortunately Israel is running out of. And also, by the way, America,

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Speaker 9: with its bad interceptors, also doesn't have an infinite supply of.

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Speaker 2: And so what are we seeing now.

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Speaker 9: We are seeing attacks from Iran landing in Israel.

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Speaker 2: We're playing some of the b role of it. Now.

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Speaker 9: Whereas this war continues, and it is a war, we're

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Speaker 9: not missing words. As this war continues, the ability of

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Speaker 9: the Iron Dome to intercept everything that's thrown at them,

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Speaker 9: it's lower and lower. And look, folks, I've been in

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Speaker 9: Israel multiple times. I've ever been tried to hide that

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Speaker 9: or anything. I don't want to see this. I don't

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Speaker 9: want to see this at all. And that's why I

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Speaker 9: put my faith in my trust in President Trump that

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Speaker 9: President Trump is going to see the way to end

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Speaker 9: this thing. We're going to get into as well with

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Speaker 9: Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaeffer and later former Trump official Caroline Sunshine,

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Speaker 9: who's coming on today about real questions as to whether

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Speaker 9: or not this bunker Buster strike is enough to be

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Speaker 9: able to take out the four to Zho nuclear enrichment facility,

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Speaker 9: this uranium enrichment, because in fact, it might take multiple strikes,

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Speaker 9: and even then they don't know if the GBU fifty

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Speaker 9: seven will be able to take out the facility and

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Speaker 9: the enriched uranium. It might be that all this strike

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Speaker 9: does is start another Middle East war and a quagmire

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Speaker 9: for America and American troops to get sucked in.

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Speaker 9: Nobody else figure out that you've put up a couple

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Speaker 9: Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaeffer. By the way, Tony, it was

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Speaker 9: really nice to see you there at the Army Birthday parade.

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Speaker 9: I hope you come to the Navy one in October two.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, I hate to say we're competitors in this area,

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Speaker 1: but we are because I had to host the live

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Speaker 1: coverage of another network to say, but hey, we all

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Speaker 1: get along behind the scenes, right.

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Speaker 10: It's great.

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Speaker 9: No, it was a great parade. I had a great time,

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Speaker 9: kids had a great time. Tarre cral Schaefer. You know

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Speaker 9: here we are embarking and yet another proxy war.

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Speaker 2: We're on the.

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Speaker 9: Cusp of one, haven't finished the previous proxy war against Russia,

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Speaker 9: and yet we hear the same cheerleaders and same voices.

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Speaker 9: Yet another proxy war on this now. I want to

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Speaker 9: drill down here because I think we've seen the signals

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Speaker 9: down from the White House. The President Trump isn't interested

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Speaker 9: in this regime change war, but he is solely focused

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Speaker 9: on ending the Iranian nuclear program and the biggest thing,

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Speaker 9: and it's not really a covert operation at this point,

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Speaker 9: is this question about a strike on the four to

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Speaker 9: look at the media, left wing media, right wing media,

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Speaker 9: it seems, Oh, it's just one bunker buster as all

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Speaker 9: it's going to take. Just use that bunker buster, you'll

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Speaker 9: take it out. It'll be perfect. It'll be the greatest

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Speaker 9: strike in the history of strikes. And I'm looking at

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Speaker 9: this thinking of it as as an intel officer said,

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Speaker 9: Wait a minute, I've put together strike packages and talked

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Speaker 9: to the targeteers. I've never heard of anyone say that

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Speaker 9: there's a perfect strike before, Litte curl Shafer. Is this true,

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Speaker 9: that this you know you can just press one button

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Speaker 9: and get rid of Iran's uranium enrichment site or potentially

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Speaker 9: is there some magical thinking going on here?

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Speaker 10: Well, it's magical thinking, Jack. I mean you and I

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Speaker 10: have both.

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Speaker 1: You did targeting packages. I had inputs to targeting packages.

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Speaker 1: I've been on I've been a planner military planner where

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Speaker 1: we have to look at the range of things regarding

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Speaker 1: a campaign, everything from kinetic strikes to special operations force options.

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Speaker 10: And this is the deal regarding poor Door.

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Speaker 1: You would have to have a strike package of ten

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Speaker 10: So these are penetrators.

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Speaker 1: But Jack, to get to the level we're talking, you're

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Speaker 1: going to have to have ten count them.

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Speaker 10: Ten of those.

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Speaker 1: Penetrators get deep enough to have an effect. That's how

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Speaker 1: deep this thing is. So and then, oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: we did the job we said we did. Oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, what happens to the radiation that comes spewing

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Speaker 1: out once you penetrate the facility? So, Gerald Tony's Inny,

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Speaker 1: the commander of Central Command. One of my friends and

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Speaker 1: mentors told me that Bill Clinton back, this is back

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Speaker 1: so I think, Jack, as much as we can talk

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Speaker 9: Well, look and and and you've got MIT professors that

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Speaker 9: BDA assessed battle damage assessments say these bunker busters, and

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Speaker 9: these neocons will say, well, you just you just fly

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Speaker 9: one plane over and you drop one.

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Speaker 2: Bottle, and then the next plane dives over and it's

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Speaker 9: Another bomb, and it'll go in the same hole, and

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Speaker 9: that bomb will be able to get deeper behind the

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Speaker 9: I mean, these said the GBU It's it's not precision

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Speaker 9: guided munition, all right, it has some guidance, but these

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Speaker 9: things are bombs. They are not missiles. They are not

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Speaker 2: We've been going through some of the information on it.

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Speaker 9: That it it does have the ability for blast deflection.

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Speaker 9: Tony walk us through the theory of blast deflect it's

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Speaker 9: use the exact same type of theory here on this bunker.

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Speaker 1: So basically, ninety degree angles defeat things, so and sloped

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Speaker 10: You have an angle where something hits it goes off.

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Speaker 1: So within the context of deep underground, you have things

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Speaker 1: that will defer blast up, defer a blast down, or

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Speaker 10: So what I do know for a fact is that.

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Speaker 1: Over the past thirty years, the Iranians have watched what

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Speaker 1: we've done from the first goal four until now regarding

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Speaker 1: our organs. So they have plan Jack with an understanding

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Speaker 1: of what we can do. They watched the first golf

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Speaker 10: They have a general understanding of what we can do. Jack.

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Speaker 1: They design this facility around the known capabilities. So again,

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Speaker 1: the penetrators, they are a good weapon to go after

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Speaker 12: so much for being along for the ride. President Trump

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Speaker 10: Today.

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Speaker 7: You know that you talk about influences, These are influences

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Speaker 10: Jack, Jack, break down.

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Speaker 9: All right, folks, Jack, So bec we are back here

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Speaker 9: at Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, Washington, DC. We'rell

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Speaker 9: with Lieutenant Colonel Tony Shaffer. We're talking intel, we're talking

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Speaker 12: Jack.

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Speaker 1: We heard the same thing in two thousand and three

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Speaker 9: Where can people go to follow you for all the

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Speaker 12: President Trump will make a decision on US involvement in

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Speaker 12: the fighting within the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 13: The President is always interested in a diplomatic solution to

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Speaker 13: the problems in the global conflicts in this world.

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Speaker 2: Again, he is a peacemaker in chief. He is the

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Speaker 2: peace through.

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Speaker 13: Strength president, and so if there's a chance for diplomacy,

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Speaker 13: the President's always going to grab it, but he's not

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Speaker 13: afraid to use strength as well.

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Speaker 12: Levitt goes on to say that Iran has never been

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Speaker 12: closer to attaining a nuclear weapon. She also says the

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Speaker 12: Islamic Republic has everything it needs to achieve a nuke

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Speaker 12: and could develop one within weeks. President Trump, by the way,

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Speaker 12: still has control over California's National Guard, as the Golden

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Speaker 12: States governor moves forward with a lawsuit challenging the legality

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Speaker 12: of the Commander in chief's use of California National Guard

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Speaker 12: troops to put down protests and unrest in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 12: On Thursday, a three judge appeals court in San Francisco

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Speaker 12: extended a pause on a lower court's ruling which said

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Speaker 12: President Trump taking over the California National Guard was illegal.

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Speaker 12: That's a quick check off your headlines.

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Speaker 10: And Jack, where's Jack?

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Speaker 7: Where's Jack?

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Speaker 12: Where is it?

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Speaker 7: Jack?

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Speaker 12: I want to see you.

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Speaker 8: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 6: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 12: We're always talking about.

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Speaker 8: The fake news and the bad, but we have guys

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Speaker 9: All right, folks, Jack Philka back live Real America's Voice, Washington, DC,

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Speaker 9: and folks listen up, because if you are still drinking

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Speaker 9: That's Blackout Coffee dot com slash Posso stop waiting and

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Speaker 9: wake up very excited to welcome back on the program,

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Speaker 9: the former deputy director of communications for the Trump campaign

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty four. Last year, we had her on the

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Speaker 9: program so many times she joins us yet again, it's

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Speaker 9: Caroline Sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Caroline, how are you, Shack?

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Speaker 3: How are you? I'm great. I'm just you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to enjoy my summer.

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Speaker 14: And make sure that the US doesn't get involved in

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Speaker 14: another prolonged war in the Middle East, make sure we

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Speaker 14: can get all those illegal.

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Speaker 3: Immigrants out of our country. But other than that, I'm great.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 9: I'm having a little issue with Caroline's audio For some reason,

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Speaker 9: I can't hear her, even though even though.

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Speaker 2: We were we were definitely just checking this out two

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Speaker 2: seconds ago and I could hear her.

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Speaker 9: But Carline was on and I saw giving an interview

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Speaker 9: yesterday and just a phenomenal job. Oh you guys are

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Speaker 9: telling me it's up now, Sorry about that, Caroline.

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Speaker 2: Need there?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Are you still there?

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Speaker 1: Hey? There?

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Speaker 2: It is now, It's perfect.

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Speaker 9: The technology overlords have smiled upon us for once. You

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Speaker 9: gave an incredible interview yesterday speaking out about some of

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Speaker 9: this and what I'm dubbing magical thinking.

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Speaker 2: I think there's this magical thinking that's going on in Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C.

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Speaker 9: And corporate news and in a lot of places right

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Speaker 9: now regarding the Israel Iran conflict. And look, you know,

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Speaker 9: people know on this show we have a lot of

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Speaker 9: care for the Holy Land, and we're generally very anti

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Speaker 9: war when it comes down to it.

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Speaker 2: We don't like war. We know these things spiral out

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Speaker 2: of control.

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Speaker 9: And yet there are people who are just straight up

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Speaker 9: attacking you or you know, not you personally, but attacking

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Speaker 9: me and others Deep banned Charlie kirk Elis were for

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Speaker 9: simply raising a few skeptical points regarding this thing, and

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Speaker 9: I just thought it was incredible that you, with the

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Speaker 9: platform that you have, were willing to also voice some

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Speaker 9: of the concerns and really from the perspective of veterans

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Speaker 9: and units that had lost members and lost brothers and

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Speaker 9: lost family members in the wars that we just finished

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Speaker 9: fighting in the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 14: And all I was trying to do was speak up

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Speaker 14: the way that the American people spoke up in this

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Speaker 14: last election. You know, sixty percent of Americans don't want

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Speaker 14: to see more US military golvement in Little East.

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Speaker 3: That pole just came out yesterday.

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Speaker 14: And unfortunately sixty percent of voices in media aren't reflecting that.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm looking at people like Mark Clevin

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Speaker 3: and Mark Levin.

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Speaker 14: Is loud doesn't mean that he's right. Actually, you know what,

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Speaker 14: I would love to debate Mark Levin.

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Speaker 3: I would love to debate and Mark.

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Speaker 14: If anybody is watching Mark, I would love to debate you.

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Speaker 8: Jack.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you can host us on your show.

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Speaker 14: We could do it on Mark's show anytime, any place, anywhere.

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Speaker 14: But just because Mark is being and I mean I

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Speaker 14: mean it, I mean it when it comes to something

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Speaker 14: as serious as the US getting involved again in Middle East.

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Speaker 14: We should have that debate, and just because somebody is

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Speaker 14: loud doesn't mean that they're right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know much about Mark Levin. I know that

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Speaker 3: he has said that he wouldn't vote for President Trump.

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Speaker 3: I know that he said that direct quote.

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Speaker 14: I'm not accountable for anything any of the dumb things

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Speaker 14: President Trump and his supporters say.

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Speaker 3: I know that Mark Levin is out there calling millions of.

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Speaker 14: Americans on patriotic for not wanting to get involved in

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Speaker 14: the Middle East again. So he's calling sixty percent of

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Speaker 14: Americans unpatriotic.

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Speaker 3: I think that's really dangerous rhetoric.

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Speaker 14: I think that is the same rhetoric that was used

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Speaker 14: during the Iraq War to try and manipulate the American

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Speaker 14: public into buying the lie that Iraq had WMDs. You

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Speaker 14: were told that, you know, unless you buy the lie

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Speaker 14: that Iraq has WMDs.

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Speaker 3: You're not patriotic. You know.

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Speaker 14: The Dixie Chicks were canceled for that, for speaking out

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Speaker 14: against President Bush because they didn't want to go to war.

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Speaker 3: They were canceled by the right.

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Speaker 14: By the way, I don't think millions of Americans.

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Speaker 3: Are unpatriotic for not wanting to go to war in the.

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Speaker 14: Middle East again, and it's leftist rhetoric that he's using, too,

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Speaker 14: Like that is the.

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Speaker 3: Same tactic that the left uses.

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Speaker 14: You know, if you don't want millions of unvetted illegal

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Speaker 14: immigrants pouring into your country, you're unpatriotic because America is

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Speaker 14: a nation of immigrants, and we're supposed to welcome the cold,

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Speaker 14: the tire, the poor.

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Speaker 3: The huddled masses.

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Speaker 14: And if you don't like that, you don't like legal

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Speaker 14: immigrants company in a country, you're unpatriotic. So I just

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Speaker 14: I don't agree with calling millions of Americans, sixty percent

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Speaker 14: of Americans unpatriotic for not wanting that. I don't think

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Speaker 14: Mark Levin speaks for Americans under thirty. I mean, President

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Speaker 14: Trump always talks about how proud he is that he

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Speaker 14: won the youth vote by thirty points, that he.

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Speaker 3: Won young men overwhelmingly. And it's not.

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Speaker 14: If the American military is to get involved again in

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Speaker 14: the Middle East, god forbid, it's not going to be

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Speaker 14: Mark Levin that gets sent to the front lines. I mean,

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Speaker 14: if we were to drop Mark Levin in Iran, that

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Speaker 14: would be quite the bunkerbuster, because he's he's a large guy,

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Speaker 14: but it wouldn't be Mark Levin being sent to the

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Speaker 14: front lines of Iran.

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Speaker 3: It would be young men under thirty.

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Speaker 14: And I don't feel like the voices in media are

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Speaker 14: painting an.

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Speaker 3: Accurate picture of what war would look like.

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Speaker 14: We're not having that conversation. We didn't have that conversation

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Speaker 14: leading up to the Iraq War. We're not having that

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Speaker 14: conversation now. But something I would point out is back

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Speaker 14: in two thousand and three, during the Iraq War, women couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Serve in combat.

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Speaker 14: They can now, And I don't think the American public

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Speaker 14: is ready to see images of women that look like

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Speaker 14: me being blown up by IDEs. And I don't think

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Speaker 14: that's a good thing for President Trump's legacy either. President

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Speaker 14: Trump has done so much to make sure that men

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Speaker 14: can't participate.

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Speaker 3: In women's sports.

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Speaker 14: Why are we now going to go burn all of

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Speaker 14: that by letting women get blown up in combat in

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Speaker 14: the Middle East. That's not something that I stand for

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Speaker 14: that that's not something that I think would be good

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Speaker 14: for his legacy. I was really grateful that the President

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Speaker 14: said he's going.

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Speaker 3: To pursue this two week time period.

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Speaker 14: And what I'm concerned about is voices in the American

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Speaker 14: media trying to undermine the President's decision to pursue peace

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Speaker 14: and to pursue negotiation over the course of these two

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Speaker 14: weeks or sooner.

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Speaker 3: But my offer stands, Mark.

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Speaker 14: Levin, Katie Pavlich, any of these voices, happy to debate anytime, anywhere.

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Speaker 3: If you want to do two on one, happy to

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Speaker 3: do it. But it's an important debate and we should

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Speaker 3: have it.

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Speaker 9: Well, Caroline, I mean, I've seen the same tenor of

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Speaker 9: their comments out there, and I've seen the way that

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Speaker 9: they're talking as if you are some kind of traitor

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Speaker 9: to the United States for raising basic questions or you

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Speaker 9: know me, I put on my military officer hat and

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Speaker 9: I say, well, okay, well, how many missiles do you have,

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Speaker 9: and how many interceptors? How does the iron dome actually work?

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Speaker 9: And can they sustain something like this? These bunker busters.

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Speaker 9: You get this magical thinking that I can always say, oh,

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Speaker 9: it's you know, it's one hit and it's going to

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Speaker 9: be done. They're not going to have nukes anymore, is

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Speaker 9: at really? Are you sure about that? Have you ever

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Speaker 9: put together a targeting package? Have you ever run stripes

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Speaker 9: like this? Have you ever participated in one of these

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Speaker 9: operations because guess what, that's exactly what amateurs say. People

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Speaker 9: have never actually looked at one of these problem sets

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Speaker 9: or done anything like this before, because you never know

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Speaker 9: what the strike is gonna look like until afterwards, especially

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Speaker 9: a massive and completely novel strike like the one you're

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Speaker 9: talking about here, and they say, oh, we're gonna have

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Speaker 9: one bunker buster and then the second one is gonna

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Speaker 9: come in and it's gonna dig, it's gonna burrow down

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Speaker 9: deeper after the first, the first bunker Buster. I'm like,

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Speaker 9: what do you guys, like this is this is this

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Speaker 9: is like like Star Wars and it's Luke Skywalker and

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Speaker 9: you know, Obi wan Kenobi. Turnoff your targeting. He's going

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Speaker 9: up against the Death Star with the heat vest. Guys,

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Speaker 9: you're watching a little bit too much Marvel, Like, can

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Speaker 9: we just can we have a serious conversation about military

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Speaker 9: matters here and maybe if we talk to some people

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Speaker 9: who have been in the military and actually look at this.

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Speaker 9: And by the way, that's nothing against the training, that's

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Speaker 9: nothing against the the patriotism and and and the grit

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Speaker 9: and valor of the soldiery and and the airman and pilots.

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Speaker 9: It's just reality. Okay, we're just talking about reality, about math.

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Speaker 9: We're talking about physics, and the physics aren't necessarily on

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Speaker 9: our side.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of the people that have been looking

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Speaker 2: at this problem.

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Speaker 9: Set, particularly with this Sporto facility, say wait a minute,

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Speaker 9: the physics on hitting this thing are going to be

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Speaker 9: extremely hard. It's very complicated. It's going to take potentially

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Speaker 9: and the tener Curl Shafer is just on here saying

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Speaker 9: you might need.

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Speaker 2: Ten runs on this thing.

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Speaker 9: So ten B two bombers or you know, five I

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Speaker 9: views in tandem with a with a dual drop base

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Speaker 9: to be able to knock this thing out.

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Speaker 2: And that's ten, you know, five to ten hits. Who

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Speaker 2: knows what could happen? Rights?

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Speaker 9: And it just comes down that who knows are Americans?

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Speaker 9: I'm just going to say it, are Americans prepared, even

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Speaker 9: in this limited strike, prepared to see what would happen

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Speaker 9: if rom were able to shoot down a B two

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Speaker 9: bomber and that the amount of video that you would

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Speaker 9: see on some of that, or god forbid a malfunction

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Speaker 9: or something like that.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it's likely.

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Speaker 9: I'm just saying you have to consider these things when

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Speaker 9: you're conducting military planning for an operation over Indian country

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Speaker 9: or an operation over hostile territory like it, all of.

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Speaker 2: These things need.

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Speaker 9: When we were I served in I was, I was

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Speaker 9: stationed in Guama a couple of times. And when they

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Speaker 9: ran the invasions into Guam, they were people who didn't track.

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Speaker 2: The depth of the mud and the depth of the water.

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Speaker 9: And there were times that during the invasion of Guam

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Speaker 9: that marines would be jumping out in These kids eighteen

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Speaker 9: nineteen years old would be jumping out fully loaded up,

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Speaker 9: fully kitted down with packages and grenades and weapons and AMMO,

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Speaker 9: and they were so heavy that they sank right into

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Speaker 9: the sand. They sank right in the sand. They couldn't

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Speaker 9: get out right.

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Speaker 12: We saw this.

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Speaker 2: You saw it in D Day as well.

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Speaker 9: And I'm sorry, but before we get into any of

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Speaker 9: those conversations, we better darn well know what we're talking

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Speaker 9: about before any single American gets sent into something like that.

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Speaker 2: Womanute until the break, Carol l Ane Sunshine.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely, And you know, while we're at it, let's talk

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Speaker 14: about other conversations that were not having. Supposedly, Iran is

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Speaker 14: five minutes away from a nuclear weapon. I have a

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Speaker 14: feeling that is becoming the same Iraq has WMD's two

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Speaker 14: point zero lie because there is no current US intelligence

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Speaker 14: assessment that says that.

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Speaker 3: But let's let's play it out. Let's have the conversation

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Speaker 3: that I haven't seen anyone, have you and me?

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Speaker 10: Jack?

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Speaker 3: What if Iran does have a nuclear weapon? Okay, so

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Speaker 3: what let's let's play that out.

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Speaker 14: I don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon, but

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Speaker 14: we haven't.

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Speaker 9: Let's let's just like and that out would be of course,

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Speaker 9: what if they were to use it in a retaliation

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Speaker 9: that's that's the real danger here. And I don't hear

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Speaker 9: anybody talking about this. We're coming up on on a

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Speaker 1: A great guy.

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Speaker 3: He's written that.

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Speaker 10: Fantastic Look everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 9: We do have breaking news that an earthquake apparently has

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Speaker 9: taken or has occurred, just occurred a few kilometers west

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Speaker 9: of Tehran, of course, the capital of Iran. The earthquake

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Speaker 9: apparently occurred at very deep the depth of and I'm

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Speaker 9: seeing various numbers on this potentially thirty five kilometers underground

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Speaker 9: or even thirteen kilometers underground. This is far too deep

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Speaker 9: to be the facility that it is nowhere near where

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Speaker 9: Foordo is and so we're gonna keep an eye on this. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: it is a very very mountainous region. It's a region

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Speaker 9: where there's been a lot of tectonic activity. Of course,

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Speaker 9: everyone on edge because of course.

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Speaker 2: We know everything that's going on here.

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Speaker 9: Over the last week, we're on with Caroline Sunshine, the

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Speaker 9: former deputy director of the Trump campaigns Communications, and Caroline,

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Speaker 9: this this conversation that you're having that and that we

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Speaker 9: were having is I think important because there are huge

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Speaker 9: costs associated with this. And and what I've really been

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Speaker 9: trying to drive home today as well is to say, look,

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Speaker 9: you know, the people of Tehran, right and and people

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Speaker 9: needed to see what Tehran actually looks like.

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Speaker 2: And and no one has taken a look at this.

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Speaker 9: No one knows how they're going to respond if the

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Speaker 9: United States bombs them, and there's this this you know,

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Speaker 9: refrain that oh they're just going to greet us as

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Speaker 9: liberators and it's going to be this wonderful thing. I

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Speaker 9: don't know if that's totally confirmed, and it certainly wasn't

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Speaker 9: an Iraq Afghanistan, and we could easily find ourselves sucked

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Speaker 9: into a very, very bad situation.

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Speaker 3: I think that there's no reason for the United States

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Speaker 3: to engage in any kind of regime war regime change

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Speaker 3: in the region.

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Speaker 14: It's really unpopular with the American people. I cannot begin

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Speaker 14: to describe how popular if you did want to undertake

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Speaker 14: a popular regime change. Honestly, the most popular one would probably.

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Speaker 3: Be against Prime Minister Netanyahu himself.

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Speaker 14: If you stand with Israel, it's hard to stand with

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Speaker 14: his government. He's got a thirty percent popularity rating. He

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Speaker 14: almost lost control of his government a day before those strikes.

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Speaker 14: He has been wrong about intelligence assessments for a long time.

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Speaker 14: There's sufficient evidence that he didn't even listen to intelligence

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Speaker 14: assessments leading up to the.

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Speaker 3: October seventh attack.

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Speaker 14: This is a guy that said that taking out Saddam

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Speaker 14: Hussein would be a prosperous thing for the region of

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Speaker 14: the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: But I also want to go back to.

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Speaker 14: The fact that people are saying, all right, well, President

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Speaker 14: Trump has been consistent for ten years saying that Iran

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Speaker 14: can't have a nuclear weapon. That's true, he has said

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Speaker 14: that for a decade. He's been very consistent in that position.

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Speaker 14: But that's very clever framing as well, because what he

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Speaker 14: hasn't said is Iran can never have a nuclear weapon,

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Speaker 14: and we're willing to use the United States military and

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Speaker 14: intervention to make sure that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: That's not what he has said. If anything, his track.

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Speaker 14: Record shows he has a bias towards negotiation. He has

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Speaker 14: a bias towards negotiating for peace.

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Speaker 3: But let's play this out right now.

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Speaker 14: There are people screaming on TV saying that Roan is

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Speaker 14: five minutes away from a nuclear weapon. They've been saying

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Speaker 14: that for thirty years, net y'all, who himself has been

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Speaker 14: saying that for thirty years. The current US intelligence assessment

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Speaker 14: does not assess that Iran is five minutes away from

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Speaker 14: a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 3: In fact, I don't think President Trump.

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Speaker 14: Himself would have agreed to this recent two week timeline

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Speaker 14: if Iran was truly five minutes away from a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 14: So just because people who were speechwriters in the Bush

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Speaker 14: television saying Iran is five minutes away from a nuclear

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Speaker 14: weapon doesn't make it true.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's important, because this is.

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Speaker 14: A country that has a history of selling convenient lies

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Speaker 14: to its people to get it involved in conflicts that

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Speaker 14: have been very costly.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm.

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Speaker 15: Talking about them that I have some and we had

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Speaker 15: to go now, right right, And I have some background

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Speaker 15: on this that I got from a source who was

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Speaker 15: in the closed door meeting with Ratcliffe and the others.

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Speaker 2: And people have made a lot of talk about his one.

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Speaker 9: Yard analogy, and people are telling me that, wait a minute,

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Speaker 9: he was not talking about any kind of new in

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Speaker 9: tell or new assessment that Trump, Ratcliffe, JD, and Tulci

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Speaker 9: are actually on the same page. And in fact, he

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Speaker 9: was making a football reference about something else. And all

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Speaker 9: of the Warhawks are taking out of contact. Carlin, we're

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Speaker 9: out of.

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Speaker 2: Time for the show. I do hope you come back.

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Speaker 2: What is your social media where people can follow you?

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jack, and thank you for using your voice

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Speaker 3: and for your show. You guys can follow me at

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Speaker 3: Sea Sunshine.

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Speaker 9: At Sea Sunshine. It's as simple as that, folks. And

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Speaker 9: so you've got Caroline Sunshine now who's speaking out with him,

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Speaker 9: by the way, not speaking out, but speaking out against

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Speaker 9: the warmongers and the warhawks and the neo cons for

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Speaker 9: this rush to judgment President Trump, who's up in Bedminster,

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Speaker 9: now on his way. President Trump is the one who

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Speaker 9: will make the judgment. And President Trump has always said

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Speaker 9: peace is surprise. Ladies and gentlemen, As always, you have

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Speaker 9: my permission to play a sure