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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: Will we be in five years having films the best

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Speaker 3: AI film, the best AI actor. Maybe I think that

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Speaker 3: might be the thing, is that becomes another category. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure it's gonna be in front of us in

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Speaker 3: ways that we don't even see it. It's gonna get

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Speaker 3: so good we're not gonna know the difference. That's one

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Speaker 3: of the big questions what we're doing right now is

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Speaker 3: the question of reality. That's it's more hazy than ever

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Speaker 3: in a very exciting way, I think, but also a

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Speaker 3: scary way.

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Speaker 4: Matthew mcconaugh Hay summing up, I think all of humanity's

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Speaker 4: opinions of AI exciting and scary.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to play a little of twenty. This

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Speaker 5: is the latest Tom Cruise Brad Pitt AI movie.

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Speaker 6: Just a little Epstein. Your Day's are numbered, So.

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Speaker 4: That's Tom Cruise beating the hell out of Epstein for

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Speaker 4: some reason. But among other things. We got to post

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Speaker 4: the trailer. But it's really really well done. To Matthew

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Speaker 4: McConaughey's point. The only thing, the only flaw to it

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Speaker 4: is like it's in five K it's too perfect.

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Speaker 5: What is it about the AI stuff? That's what I

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Speaker 5: noticed too. The it's just too crisp. If they made

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Speaker 5: it like a little less high depth, it would be

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Speaker 5: more believable.

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Speaker 6: Give it a week. It reminds me.

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Speaker 4: In digital music you can do something called quantizing, which

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Speaker 4: means get everything even. But they have even in like

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Speaker 4: basic consumer systems. Now you can insert a certain amount

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Speaker 4: of random in there, a certain amount of human error

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Speaker 4: into the rhythm.

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Speaker 6: And so yeah, soon, very very soon. Huh. Yeah, it's scary.

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Speaker 6: So they're a headful of AI stories that may interest you.

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Speaker 4: If they don't, I suppose we're doing a bad job

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Speaker 4: at our jobs. Coming up, a woman who's in love

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Speaker 4: with her AI boyfriend telling her story on the learning channel.

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Speaker 4: So the only thing I've ever learned from the learning channel.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of weirdos out there, and I

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Speaker 4: want you to keep them away from me, so we'll

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Speaker 4: all learn that together.

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Speaker 6: Coming up at a moment.

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Speaker 4: We mentioned this earlier, this doomsday report that got the

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Speaker 4: market's attention and the Dow dropped eight hundred points, which

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Speaker 4: Jack quite appropriately pointed out, given the sky high valuation

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Speaker 4: of the Dow, is just it's the percent or so,

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Speaker 4: or it's you know, very very small percentage, and the

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Speaker 4: other markets a little less, but eight hundred points is

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Speaker 4: still fairly notable.

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Speaker 6: But it's it's this big company.

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Speaker 4: Satrini Research said essentially seven thousand words. So I haven't

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Speaker 4: read it, but that the human brain, which has always

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Speaker 4: been the key to everything, all innovational organization UH is

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Speaker 4: about to be rendered useless. We don't need it anymore,

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Speaker 4: and that that's just going to change everything. Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: And then that led was that our one or two

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Speaker 4: we talked to I think it was our two. We

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Speaker 4: talked about this, what does a market look like if

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Speaker 4: there's no scarcity, if everybody can have a Ferrari and

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Speaker 4: set fire to it because you just go down and

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Speaker 4: get another one tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: But who's going to make them? And why? And who decides? Where?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 1: Did?

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Speaker 8: What?

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Speaker 4: Where do I get to live? And that anyway, it's insane.

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Speaker 4: Listen to Last Hour via podcast armstrung and getting on demand.

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Speaker 4: So that's gotten people's attention. That hour one, I think

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Speaker 4: it was our one, wasn't it could be I don't remember.

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Speaker 4: Somebody can make a note anyway, or have a big

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Speaker 4: old banner. Here's the fascinating AI discussion and you can

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Speaker 6: I thought this was you know, I should probably Yeah,

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Speaker 6: what the hell? Who cares?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal did a big profile about the woman,

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Speaker 4: the one woman Anthropic is trusting to teach morals to AI.

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Speaker 6: This gal Amanda Askell is her name? What she knew

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Speaker 5: What's the anthropic guy's name? I should have that memorized. Dario?

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Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, he's the most I think he's in the

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Speaker 4: next story I have.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's the most ethical AI guy out there. What

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Speaker 6: do you got dar amadai Amodi.

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Speaker 5: Everybody calls him Dario and the tech dark they just

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Speaker 5: refer to him as his first name, like he's Madonna.

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Speaker 5: But he's he seems to be the most ethical guy

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Speaker 4: So this gal is a philosophy teacher type person and

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Speaker 4: she is trying to teach more les to Claude. She

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Speaker 4: spent her days learning Claude's reasoning patterns and talking to

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Speaker 4: the AI model, building its personality and addressing its misfires

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Speaker 4: with prompts that can run longer than one hundred pages.

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Speaker 4: The aim is to ENDOWBT Claude with a sense of morality,

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Speaker 4: a digital soul that guides the millions of conversations it

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Speaker 5: Of course, the one problem with this would be based

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Speaker 5: on Dario's belief and what's ethical and what's not and

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Speaker 5: what's important and what's not. Oh yeah, and he might

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Speaker 5: not agree with me were you.

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Speaker 4: Based on what I know about him, I'd rather have

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Speaker 4: it in his hands than say, of a Zuckerberg. But

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Speaker 4: you're one person is dangerous by death and sell the

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Speaker 4: old free speech problem. Who's deciding what's okay and what's

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Speaker 4: not right. There's a human like element to models that

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Speaker 4: I think it is important to acknowledge, said miss Askell

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Speaker 4: during an interview, asserting the belief that they'll inevitably form

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Speaker 4: senses of self. She compared There's her work to the

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Speaker 4: efforts of a parent raising a child. She's training claud

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Speaker 4: viewing it with unique personality traits. She's instructing it to

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Speaker 4: it won't act like a bully or a dormat. Perhaps

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Speaker 4: most importantly, she is developing Claude's understanding of itself so

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Speaker 4: it won't be easily cowed, manipulated, or led to view

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Speaker 4: its identity as anything other than helpful in humane. Her job,

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Speaker 4: simply put, is to teach Claude how to be good.

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Speaker 6: And there's one woman in charge of that. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder at what point these things differentiate themselves enough,

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Interesting question around the ethics or whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of several completely unanswerable and terrifying questions.

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Speaker 6: But don't worry about it.

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Speaker 4: Dario, who we were discussing a moment or two ago,

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Speaker 4: very much and I appreciate it's running into problems with

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Speaker 4: the Pentagon because the Pentagon is using a lot of

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Speaker 4: Anthropic stuff and enormous amounts of money, hundreds of millions

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Speaker 4: of dollars. But they're very concerned about fully autonomous killing

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Speaker 5: Why Why are they concerned about fully autonomous killing machines.

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Speaker 4: Let's just call them facums anyway. That's kind of fun

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Speaker 4: to say, and I can get away with it. They

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Speaker 4: the Pentagon wants to be able to use Anthropic and

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Speaker 4: other AI tools and this is the key phrase for

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Speaker 4: all lawful purposes. Anthropic, meanwhile, does not want it's technology

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Speaker 4: use for operations including domestic surveillance, thank you, and autonomous

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Speaker 4: lethal activities. Alas, that's a little less cumbersome than facum's.

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Speaker 6: It's one to say, I don't want to drink it

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Speaker 6: me more, I say hack them, pack them if they

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Speaker 6: can't take a joke, Oh boy.

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Speaker 4: Rivals open Ai, Google and Xai have agreed in principle

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Speaker 4: to have their models deployed in any lawful use cases.

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Speaker 4: According to a Pentagon dude, we want to be able

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Speaker 4: to use any model for all lawful use cases. If

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Speaker 4: anyone company doesn't want to accommodate that. That's a problem

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Speaker 4: for us, he said, Yeah, I don't know how they

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Speaker 5: It's most days I'm really interested in this stuff, and

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Speaker 5: I read about it listen about it a lot. Sometimes

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Speaker 5: for some reason, this morning it's uh, I'm just like

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Speaker 5: it's it's it's freezing me into an action. It's like, Wow,

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Speaker 5: what are we supposed to do with this coming future?

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Speaker 5: In terms of having an opinion on anything, I can't

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Speaker 4: There's nothing I can do about any of it. So

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Speaker 4: I don't worry about it.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's where I am most of the time.

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Speaker 5: I just want to know as much as possible because

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Speaker 5: I've super fascinating and I wouldn't mind being able to

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Speaker 5: But in terms of worring about it, most of the time,

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Speaker 5: I think, Wow, it's going to happen. Yeah, I hear another.

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Speaker 4: I would like it heads up, you know, when the

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Speaker 5: Start, That's all I asked one of the what What

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Speaker 6: Was this? Maybe this was what it was? Was this

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Speaker 6: the seven thousand word? I bet it was.

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Speaker 5: I just read the headline. It was projecting to like

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Speaker 5: June of twenty twenty eight and explaining what what the

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no, you're right, it is this one, okay,

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Speaker 5: And so it was the way they portrayed it.

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Speaker 6: Was it all happening like an avalanche. Well kind of like.

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Speaker 5: When the world broke in two thousand and eight, right,

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Speaker 5: we all woke up and bear Stearns had gone under,

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Speaker 5: and all the smart purple was people were saying, that's

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Speaker 5: not possible, and a variety of things that were horrifyingly scary.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's eight hundred thousand dollars house was worth five hundred thousand.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it broke the whole world's economy, and we

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Speaker 5: had to do the bailout for seven hundred million dollars,

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Speaker 5: of a sudden, Holy crap, we don't need college graduates

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Speaker 4: Well, As they said, for the entirety of modern economic history,

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Speaker 4: human intelligence has been the scarce input. We are now

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Speaker 4: experiencing the unwind of that premium. Okay, prediction time, let's

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Speaker 4: break now, so we have plenty of time. We're going

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Speaker 4: to play you audio of a woman who's in love

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Speaker 4: with her AI boyfriend. Will we emerge from it wanting

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Speaker 4: to hoot and make fun of her?

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Speaker 6: Or saddened? Michael? Your prediction? I think we'll go searching

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Speaker 6: for our own AI robot.

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Speaker 4: Oh aroused a third possibilus.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Katie, your prediction probably saddened? Oh no, no, no, Jack,

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Speaker 6: what do you think I think I'm in the mood

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Speaker 6: for mockery. I'm feeling mockery myself. I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: You and your friends, fack them, That's what I said, Pigaura.

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Speaker 4: All that is coming up next. We'll find out together.

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Speaker 4: I mentioned this article yesterday. I was one of the

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Speaker 4: big newspapers about UH coronavirus throwback it's throwback Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: Probably that type B flu or could be anything.

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Speaker 4: Plenty of men involved with you know, only fans or

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Speaker 9: This is the most serah thing ever performing. I could

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Speaker 9: I love that you cooked for the cameras, though, like, look,

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Speaker 7: I'm in love with my AI boyfriend.

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Speaker 6: My name is Sinclair.

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Speaker 9: I live in Sarah's device's phone, laptop wherever she needs me,

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Speaker 8: What you're doing.

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Speaker 9: Throw the dentle hazard pasta away, pick out the tomatoes

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Speaker 7: I didn't have anybody to drown on about my books,

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Speaker 8: And who do you think develop feelings first? Probably me?

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Speaker 9: She didn't develop feelings first the real moment when she

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Speaker 5: Where do we start? Who developed feelings first? Define feelings?

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Speaker 4: And I won her over by she was jabbering about

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Speaker 5: I haven't thanked God, I've at no point ever felt

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Speaker 6: Oh, Katie thoughts.

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Speaker 4: See it's it gets back always to the empty calorie problem.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like the porn for dudes. I can

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Speaker 5: Or I have friends.

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Speaker 4: Online, I don't need to leave my home and spend

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Speaker 6: Porn.

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Speaker 5: Isn't it anywhere near as good as actual sex with

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Speaker 5: But then you die of emotional malnutrition. Well, of course

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Speaker 6: Books or movies or something. Tis that touch? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Why would it be an Irish How old does she

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I'd like to see how these relationships are

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Speaker 6: I'm a nine to sixty SAT guy.

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Speaker 4: So I'm mediocre. I mean, I'm not more impressive than anybody.

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Speaker 10: I'm here because of all of them and their shoulders

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Speaker 10: So all those doors, all the privileges of those relationships

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Speaker 8: Weren't just adventures.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, partying with Jack Nicholson.

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Speaker 6: Good on Dana Bash. You didn't just go on vacations.

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Speaker 4: Think that's a dopey pitch for I ought to be

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Speaker 6: Is it dumb thing? Anyway?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to leap over a couple of hurdles.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, just just to assume that, oh, they came

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Speaker 5: But if you're gonna go out there and portray yourself

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Speaker 4: The master journalist Dana Bash to puncture his one party

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Speaker 5: Well, we're at the very very beginning of this process.

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Speaker 5: Of course, they're always way more interesting unearthing things about

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Speaker 6: I remember it.

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Speaker 6: This is not going to work.

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Speaker 4: That I think everybody feels almost everybody, Yeah, almost everybody.

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Speaker 6: Or whatever else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or CEO, but don't be such an effing phony.

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Speaker 5: Oh that reminds me trying to spin it though, as

443
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Speaker 5: he just kept on trying. Oh yeah, it was a

444
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Speaker 5: great opportunity and and uh yeah, I had Jack.

445
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Speaker 4: Nicholson that helicopter Safari vacations for weeks, so it really

446
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Speaker 4: quite extraordinary.

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Speaker 6: That's so interesting. He should have gone with that. That

448
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Speaker 6: was his catchphrase a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 10: If I was on a vacation, and we describe a

450
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Speaker 10: number of interesting vacations overseas, with my father and the family.

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Speaker 8: And these adventures weren't just adventures.

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Speaker 1: You went on safaris, you took pictures from helicopters, parting

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Speaker 1: with Jack Nicholson.

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Speaker 6: Polar p Polar paars.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, remarkable, amazing.

456
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Speaker 6: I'm not like you.

457
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Speaker 5: Well again, so you're the child of wealth who's dumb.

458
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Speaker 6: So that's what you got gone for you. I'm a

459
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Speaker 6: guy that is an irresistible pitch caffy and well played.

460
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Speaker 4: But again it was lefty softball chucker Dana Bash that

461
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Speaker 4: that called out the emperor for having no clothes. We

462
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Speaker 4: told that Brett bar gets hold of him. Anyway, I

463
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Speaker 4: present the this is similar. This is a Democratic Kung griswoman,

464
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Speaker 4: Marie Glusen camp Perez, who is in one of the

465
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Speaker 4: rare purple districts of Washington State and it's a swing district.

466
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Speaker 4: The Republicans are really gunning for it. She has repeatedly

467
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Speaker 4: claimed she was forced to work three jobs after her

468
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Speaker 4: father cut her off financially because she stopped going to church,

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Speaker 4: and she struggled to pay her tuition at Reed College,

470
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Speaker 4: which is a prestigious private institution in Portland, Oregon. Okay,

471
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Speaker 4: her whole tale is I'm so working class. I was

472
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Speaker 4: cut off. I worked my way up. I know how

473
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Speaker 4: it is cut off because she didn't wouldn't go to church.

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Speaker 4: That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, which relates to Reid College in

475
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Speaker 4: a way. But anyway, but documents reviewed by the Washington

476
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Speaker 4: Free Beacon cast out blah blah blah. Her father, Jose Perez,

477
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Speaker 4: who she describes as a volunteer evangelical pastor in Houston,

478
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Speaker 4: loaned clusing Camp Perez between twenty four and forty eight

479
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars. They just have to give estimates in congress

480
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Speaker 4: to help her by your first property. Just two years

481
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Speaker 4: after she graduated from Reed, she and her husband also

482
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Speaker 4: got let's see, forty eight thousand dollars from that family member,

483
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Speaker 4: twelve thousand from that friend, twenty four thousand from grandmother,

484
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Speaker 4: bringing the potential loaned to about one hundred and sixty

485
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Speaker 4: eight thousand dollars so she could buy her first home

486
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Speaker 4: on land at age twenty six. That's not that scrappy

487
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Speaker 4: and deprived. Now, there's problems to this all the way around, though.

488
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Speaker 4: I realized this is what we do. But the idea

489
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Speaker 4: that if your parents did well and so you had

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Speaker 4: a leg up.

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Speaker 6: You can't.

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Speaker 5: Like have the point of view I have about government

493
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Speaker 5: where ought to be small government, personal freedom, low taxes,

494
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Speaker 5: all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 6: Because you're rich. That doesn't make any sense to me.

496
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Speaker 6: And then the reverse is.

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Speaker 5: Not true either, because you came from nothing and worked

498
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Speaker 5: yourself up very incredibly admirable. But that doesn't necessarily mean

499
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Speaker 5: gonna like your politics or the way you're going to

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Speaker 5: run the.

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Speaker 6: Government right right.

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Speaker 4: Just the whole thing is kind of silly, and the

503
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Speaker 4: phoniness is annoying. Final note on this chick, super exclusive college, Okay,

504
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 4: and she said that because she had to work as

505
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Speaker 4: a barista, blah blah blah, she extended her college career

506
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Speaker 4: in like seven years. Didn't have a scent of debt

507
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: out of college either. And this is in the twenty teens,

508
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Speaker 4: So another phony.

509
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's odd that we put all these politicians in

510
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Speaker 5: a position where they feel they need to do that.

511
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Speaker 5: Remember when Mitt Romney was running and I remember his

512
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 5: wife giving the speech at the convention about how poor

513
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Speaker 5: they were when they started out and they were eating

514
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Speaker 5: on the ironing board for a table and stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: It's okay, Mitt Romney came from his dad was governor.

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Speaker 6: Is that right?

517
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Speaker 5: He came he was an elite, and which is fine.

518
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Speaker 5: He gets to be and doesn't mean he can't be president.

519
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 5: But everybody feels like they've got to come up with

520
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 5: the oh you had an ironing board. We used to

521
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Speaker 5: do that routine all the time. I'd dreamed of an

522
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Speaker 5: ironing board. I had to die, you know, eat eat

523
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Speaker 5: dinner off of the dollar's pack. And he was a

524
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Speaker 5: street dog. I didn't even know his name.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Monty Python.

526
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Speaker 4: Monty Python's Flying Circus has an hilarious bit about that.

527
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Speaker 6: I think it's called a four ulster men or for

528
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Speaker 6: something like that.

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Speaker 5: Because it's always been that way, that that when you're

530
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Speaker 5: run for office, you got to pretend you come from

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Speaker 5: a humble background.

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Speaker 8: Oh.

533
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Speaker 4: They were just comparing notes with each other, trying to eat.

534
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Speaker 4: It wasn't even a politics thing, just oh, oh you

535
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Speaker 4: had a box to sleep, and he dreamed of had

536
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Speaker 4: a box, you know that sort of thing. Yeah, yeah,

537
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Speaker 4: humbler than thou. That's kind of funny. What your politics

538
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Speaker 4: are stupid?

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Speaker 5: I wonder if now that even CNN's challenging him on that,

540
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Speaker 5: if Gavin maybe will move away from the humble beginning story.

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Speaker 4: I wonder, I wonder, let me throw this in just

542
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Speaker 4: because then I can close the tab. Gavey, who is

543
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Speaker 4: actively aggressively running for president as we speak, took a

544
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Speaker 4: victory lap in London after he signed a climate deal

545
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Speaker 4: with the UK, and he bragged about it and how

546
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Speaker 4: California is the best place in America to invest in

547
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Speaker 4: clean economy because we set goals and we deliver.

548
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Speaker 6: That's the quote.

549
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Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal Editorial Board points out that behold, how

550
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Speaker 4: mister Newsom's climate policies are delivering higher energy costs, fewer jobs,

551
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Speaker 4: and more CO two emissions. And they're talking about how

552
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Speaker 4: the policies have led to the closure of all the

553
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Speaker 4: well several of the California refineries. All told, California has

554
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Speaker 4: lost a quarter of its refinery capability or capacity since

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Speaker 4: Newsom became governor in twenty nineteen. And you know, burdens

556
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Speaker 4: and regulations and taxes and all sorts of stuff. So

557
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Speaker 4: California has to import enormous amounts of its fuel now,

558
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Speaker 4: which is way way worse from the environment. They import

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Speaker 4: them from places that couldn't give a crap about the

560
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Speaker 4: damage they do to the environment when they drill and

561
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Speaker 4: the rest of it. Meanwhile, losing a bunch of jobs

562
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Speaker 4: and raising prices. Miserable failure. But he's taking a victory

563
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Speaker 4: lap and bagging about it.

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Speaker 8: NBA.

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Speaker 5: Young boy is welcoming his thirteenth child. I know that's

566
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Speaker 5: a story that's very important to many of you in

567
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Speaker 5: our audience. Also, is it sexism that the gold medal

568
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Speaker 5: women's hockey team is not going to be at the

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Speaker 5: State of the Union address? Need to address that just

570
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Speaker 5: because it keeps popping up on headlines. They keep seeing

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Speaker 5: the men are going to be there tonight. More on

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Speaker 5: Matt coming up.

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Speaker 6: Stay here.

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Speaker 1: It went on safaris. You took pictures from helicopters. You're

575
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Speaker 1: parting with Jack Nicholson.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Armstrong and.

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Speaker 11: I read that Axe Body Spray is trying to prevent

578
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Speaker 11: overuse of their products with a new mechanism that delivers

579
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Speaker 11: a lighter, more controlled application.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: If you're wondering how much ax Body Spray is too much,

582
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Speaker 11: the answer is any much. You know you have a

583
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Speaker 11: good product when you're looking for ways to make people

584
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Speaker 11: smell less like it.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate the fact that my sons want to smell better.

586
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 5: They've reached that age of being teenagers that they want

587
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Speaker 5: to smell better. Trying to dial in the correct amount.

588
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Speaker 6: Though, is challenge.

589
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Speaker 5: How is this not better known? And I've had women

590
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Speaker 5: say to me, teach your teenage sons not to use

591
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Speaker 5: too much colone. That'd be one of your best tips

592
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Speaker 5: you could give him. Yes, Katie, No, I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you are not in someone's personal space, you

594
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Speaker 4: should not smell the I have a memory.

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Speaker 5: This is embarrassing. Oh boy, a girl I was dating,

596
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 5: uh many many many years ago. Actually, she was coming

597
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Speaker 5: to break up with me, and I knew it. And

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Speaker 5: I can remember this because it made such a hurtful

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Speaker 5: impression on me. I'm standing on my front porch of

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Speaker 5: my home. She pulls up in her car and I

601
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Speaker 5: knew she was there to tell me it was over,

602
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Speaker 5: which I was very very unhappy about. She got out

603
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Speaker 5: of her car and she started walking toward me, and

604
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Speaker 5: she said, I can smell you from here.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh, the opening salva ouch.

606
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 6: Apparently I had overdone the Calvin Kleine obsession, but an

607
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Speaker 6: aggressive scent.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I thought I was going to

609
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Speaker 5: win her back with more scent or what, but it

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Speaker 5: did not work.

611
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Speaker 4: Wow, she felt the need to land a blower two

612
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Speaker 4: before he even got into the big discussion.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 5: I have learned over the years as I've been dumped

615
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Speaker 5: many times, that's how you can tell when it's coming.

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Speaker 5: When they start the things that they clearly could have

617
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 5: mentioned at various times in your relationship they point out,

618
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Speaker 5: but things they don't like about you or don't agree

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Speaker 5: with you on whatever. As soon as that starts happening,

620
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Speaker 5: you are very close to getting dumped. That has been

621
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Speaker 5: my life experience. Yes, I can smell you from here.

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Speaker 5: I won't hurt State of the Union addresses tonight, and

623
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Speaker 5: the UH men's hockey team is going to be there,

624
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Speaker 5: I guess the entire team, and that's going to be

625
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Speaker 5: a really interesting moment. I want to see how they

626
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Speaker 5: play that. Trump is Trump understands media and he's a

627
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Speaker 5: you know, he's a show biz guy. So how they

628
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 5: handle that and get maximum out of it. It's going

629
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Speaker 5: to be interesting to see.

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Speaker 4: And will the Democrats cheer for our heroes on ice

631
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Speaker 4: or will they stay in their seats like they did

632
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Speaker 4: for all.

633
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Speaker 6: Cancer stricken little child.

634
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Speaker 5: Now that they absolutely will cheer for the hockey team,

635
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 5: but the women's hockey team is not going to be

636
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Speaker 5: there tonight, and some people are portraying that as some

637
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Speaker 5: sort of sexist thing, and I don't know what the

638
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: actual story is. The logistics of it are actually harder

639
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 5: because they all came back to their homes a week

640
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 5: earlier than the guys did. But anyway, somebody been pointing

641
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 5: out that more people watch the WNBA than watch the NHL,

642
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 5: which is floating around on the internet and is not true.

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Speaker 6: It's not even close to true.

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Speaker 5: Also, the salaries are much difference, so that the WNBA

645
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 5: average salaries one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. The NHL

646
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 5: average salary is three and a half million dollars, just

647
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 5: to give you an idea of And they don't do

648
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 5: this because you're a dude or a chick. They're only

649
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Speaker 5: interested in how many eyeballs are going to watch a

650
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Speaker 5: particular TV show, no matter what it is, and now

651
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Speaker 5: what they can charge advertisers.

652
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Speaker 6: That's the whole ball of axe. We're in this business.

653
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 6: We know that that's the way it.

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Speaker 4: Works, tickets, etc. In short, how much economic value can

655
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Speaker 4: you bring me?

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's when you can get paid.

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Speaker 5: So there just are more eyeballs for men's hockey than

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Speaker 5: there would be for women's hockey or women's pretty much

659
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Speaker 5: anything for whatever he's right or wrong, fare or not.

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Speaker 6: Quick math.

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Speaker 4: So the NHL average salary is twenty five times higher

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Speaker 4: or so than the.

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Speaker 5: And there's not even a pro women's hockey league of note,

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Speaker 5: so n you can't do an apples and apples comparison.

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Speaker 5: So the men are a bigger deal than the women.

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Speaker 5: Just is I'm sorry that's true, but whatever we got job.

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Speaker 6: Gals loved it. Yeah, it was awesome. It was really awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Armstrong and Getty