1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to the Friday edition of The 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck here 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: with my MainMan, Clay Big Stories to get to the 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: aftermath of the horrific suicide bombing attack yesterday, the Biden 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: administration addressing it. I'm not sure that Joe Biden did 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: anything to calm nerves for a lot of people watching 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: his speech last night. We will dive into that together. Plus, 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: you have the Supreme Court striking down the obviously flatly unconstitutional, 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: mean blatantly lawless extension of a eviction moratorium or really 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: the new eviction moratorium that they created. That's gone now, 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: so landlords finally have the right to their property again. 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: And then last night Lieutenant Bird of the Capitol Hill 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Police came out to explain why he shot Ashley Babbitt 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: in the neck despite the fact that she was unarmed, 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: she was on the other side of what was still 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: a locked door. He gave his explanation for use of force. 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: Lesser Halt gave him a very favorable interview over on 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: NBC and Clay and I will be discussing that. But 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: first you have President Joe Biden yesterday addressing the nation, 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: and it really honestly seemed like you had someone who 22 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: in many ways represented in visual form the decline of 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: US power and prestige on the world stage. Biden seemed tired, befuddled, 24 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: week confused. Not what you want from a commander in chief. 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: After a mass casualty attack like the one that occurred yesterday, 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy is the most recent number we 27 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: have seen in terms of casualties. It was even more 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: than anticipated. One hundred and seventy deaths, thirty two I'm sorry, 29 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty two others still unidentifiable in terms 30 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: of whether we're talking about men, women, children. It's an 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: absolute grizzly, horrific scene there, and we lost thirteen of 32 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: our own thirteen United States military personnel in this mission. 33 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Here is Joe Biden after this happens, first of all, 34 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: telling everybody that sorry, after a war, people get left behind. 35 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: When you continue to try to get you out, it matters. Look, 36 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: I know of no conflict as a student of history, 37 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: no conflict where when a war was ending, one side 38 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: was able to guarantee that everyone they wanted to be 39 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: extracted from that country. Would get out and think about it, folks, 40 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: make it's important. I know the American people get this 41 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: in their gut. So we're going to leave people behind? 42 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: It seems to me, Clay, it's just a question of who. 43 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: This is what Joe Biden is saying after what happened yesterday, Buck, 44 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: I hate that this is the situation we're in on 45 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: so many different levels. But Joe Biden seems to me, 46 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of you out there as well, 47 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: every time I see him speak it's as if he 48 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: has aged and deteriorated. Further, I don't know whether he's 49 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,559 Speaker 1: going to be able to make it four years. Arguably, 50 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: other than people who have died in office in their 51 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: first eight months, Buck, Since Joe Biden is a student 52 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: of history, I am as well. I can't think of 53 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: a presidency that has been worse in its first eight 54 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: months than Joe Biden's. Now, you had some guys, you know, 55 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: get pneumonia when they were giving their inaugural address and 56 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: end up dying unhealthy in their first eight months, certainly, 57 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: but this is this is really I think, even for 58 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: the most died in the wool Democrat believer. You can't 59 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: watch Joe Biden speak right now and think to yourself, 60 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: this is a guy who's got over three years left 61 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: in the presidency, because but look at the pictures of 62 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: guys who are relatively young in the twenty first century 63 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: who have gone into office George W. Bush, Barack Obama, 64 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton bridging into the twenty first century. Obviously Trump 65 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: only served one term. They age the presidency is such 66 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: a weight on your shoulders that for a seventy eight 67 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: year old Joe Biden buck I mean, are you with 68 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: me that you look at him and this is not 69 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: even analyzing necessarily the politics, but just looking at him physically, 70 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't see how he's going to be able to 71 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: stand up for over three more years in the most 72 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: difficult job in all of the country. And to say 73 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: nothing of his decision making or of those things. Just 74 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: physically and mentally, I don't think he's got the wherewithal 75 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: to be president over three more years. He was never impressive. 76 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: This is the part of it that I think gets 77 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: left behind. It's not as though Joe Biden is the 78 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: aging political genius or rock star or whatever it may be. 79 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: He was just a bin around a long time, played 80 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: the game the way he had to to keep his 81 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: Senate seat in Delaware. Guy, and now he's been thrust 82 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: into this role. I mean, I think it was he 83 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: was in some ways perfect maybe to be the vice 84 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: president because the Obama administration didn't want anybody who was 85 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: going to overshadow or that's a real challenge. They weren't 86 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: going to let Hillary Clinton be the vice president. And 87 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: so that's though, where what happens now is we see 88 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is in this role. He is the president, 89 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: and he's supposed to be projecting not only calm and 90 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: command to the American people, but, let's be honest, an 91 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: air of menace to our enemies. I mean, we're the 92 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: enemies of the United States are supposed to think this 93 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: is a guy we don't want to cross. And here's 94 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: where he made his pitch that you know, we're essentially 95 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna come after you and we're not going to allow 96 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: this to go without reprisal. To those who carried out 97 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: this attack as well as anyone who wishes America harm, 98 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: know this, we will not forgive. We will not forget. 99 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: We will hunt you down and make you pay. I'll 100 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: defend our interests in our people with every measure at 101 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: my command. Clay, two things on this. The first of all, 102 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: to our conversation about how this president is doing and 103 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: appears in the role. And I agree with you, and 104 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: I've I've always said this, I don't like you know, 105 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: I try to avoid you. People will call him you 106 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: know the you know the dementia patient presidents. You know, 107 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: that's really serious stuff. But he's the commander in chief. 108 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: He's got to be in the role. So he is 109 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: deteriorating the way we could see it. And for any 110 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: normal I mean, for any normal situation, you just you'd 111 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: feel sorry, you'd want people to take care of this guy. Yes, Instead, 112 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: he's been thrust upon us as the commander in chief. 113 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: So I don't think that it comes across in the 114 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: way it's opposed to as this is a guy who 115 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: our enemies feel like is going to make that decision 116 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: at you know, the three am phone call in a 117 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: way that we'll make our enemies feel like they're on 118 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: notice and that there will be consequences. But beyond that, Clay, 119 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: going after what we're going to track down ices K 120 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: or whatever element of jihadism did this that does nothing 121 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: for the next four days. Right, First of all, we're 122 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: not going to track him down in the next four days. 123 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: We don't have the assets through it. We don't have 124 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: the attention or the time right now. We got to 125 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: get Americans out. But I mean, bringing this up, it 126 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: just felt so hollow. As soon as he said it. 127 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: I watched this buck and it felt like somebody was 128 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: trying to play a role and they didn't have the 129 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: acting chops to pull it off. And I know a 130 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: little bit about not having the acting chops to pull 131 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: it off because I'm the worst actor of all time. 132 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: We use skits for our television show on FS one, 133 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: and everybody else on the show makes fun of me 134 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: because I can't memorize lines. I can say exactly what 135 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: I think unscripted, but as soon as you start having 136 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: me memorize lines, I fall apart. And it felt like 137 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: Joe Biden was trying to play a role in the 138 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: way that he was talking there. The problem is, I 139 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: don't think anyone out there actually fears Joe Biden in 140 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: any way. And look, there's an obsession. There's an obsession 141 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 1: because of Twitter with playing nice, right, with being likable 142 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: and all these things, and sometimes you just gotta be. 143 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: And I gotta be careful what word I use here, 144 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: because I don't want to get us FCC violated. But 145 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta be. And I'm just gonna use it 146 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: as a euphemism. Sometimes you have to just be a 147 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: total jerk, right, you can't always be mister nice guy. 148 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: And when Joe Biden tries to pivot and show that 149 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: he has a you know, that he that he's willing 150 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: to throw a punch, it doesn't register, right, It just 151 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: doesn't register. Just like some of you out there know 152 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: you had a parent at some point who you knew 153 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: was never going to spank you, like when you were 154 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: a kid growing up, So the threat of a spanking, 155 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, you're not gonna do that. Like that's 156 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: what the government other governments around the world, I think, 157 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: see what Joe Biden, even the most loving family dog 158 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: you want to have capable of growling and showing teeth. 159 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: That's a that's a good analogy. And you know that's 160 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: I think that's true for all of us. It's certainly 161 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: true for the commander in chief here. And you know, 162 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: I just keep I use that title even more than 163 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: President right now, because that's really the role that he's 164 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: thrust into, right I mean, yes, he's both, but right now, 165 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: it's this is the guy who's making the top level 166 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: decisions for the United States military. This is who all 167 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: the generals go to. Sir, What do we do? Sir? 168 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: How do we? Yes? How do we go forward? And 169 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: I got to tell you the form commander in chief 170 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: before him who every special operations guy I talked to you, 171 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of them, every person I 172 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: know who is a door kicker, a war fighter. They 173 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: just felt like he was a guy who got it 174 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: and would give them the orders that need to be 175 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: given to protect the American people. Here's former President Trump 176 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: on what he saw yesterday. Our country is really in trouble, 177 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: and it's only going to get worse. What you're watching 178 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: now is only going to get worse. It can only 179 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: go one way. We had something where they didn't get 180 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: near us. They were petrified of us. I let them 181 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: know that if they do anything, we hit them right 182 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: where it hurts, which is their homes. And they know it, 183 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: and they were waiting for us. They would have been 184 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: very happy to let us go and take every American 185 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: and anybody else, we want to take our equipment, and 186 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: for some reason he watched the plan and took the 187 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: military at first. Now it's a very sad day for 188 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: our country and a great embarrassment. Beyond embarrassment, it's a 189 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: very dangerous day for our country. I mean, Clay, we 190 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: lost We lost more American serviceman yesterday than we've lost 191 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: in Afghani in one day than we've lost in Afghanistan 192 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: in years, ten years, ten years, Buck, is the number 193 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: that I saw out there ten years. This was the 194 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: deadliest day we've had in Afghanistan in ten years. And 195 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: I think it's all at the feet of Joe Biden. 196 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, Buck, you and I for the past two 197 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: weeks had been saying this is where we were trending. 198 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: And I just feel awful for all those people out 199 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: there on the ground in Afghanistan trying to protect our 200 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: country's interest in all of their families back here, that 201 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: they have a commander in chief, because Buck, you and 202 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to have an impotent commander in chief, 203 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: even if you are the most died in the Wold 204 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: Republican and there's a Democrat president or the most died 205 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: in the wold Democrat and there's a Republican president. You 206 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: don't want a week American president. We need somebody who 207 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 1: can uplift our interest and Joe Biden is not that 208 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: I want. I honestly wanted Joe Biden to wind down 209 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: this war with the just you know, and continue on 210 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: with the Trump administration trajectory here in a way that 211 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: we would have had almost no real criticism of how 212 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: it was conducted because that would have met Americans would 213 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: have stayed alive. That would have meant our people got 214 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: back home. That's what we were actually rooting for. It's 215 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: not what we are getting. 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We're trying 258 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: to basically get him slotted in on Fridays as all 259 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: this chaos surrounding COVID continues. We've obviously been focused a 260 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: lot on Afghanistan this week, but we're gonna talk with 261 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: Alex Barrenson Jack Carr for the latest on the ground 262 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan to start off the second hour of the program. 263 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: But buck Sexton ask a good question as we went 264 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: to break, would you even feel better if Joe Biden 265 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: stepped down knowing that Kamala Harris is waiting in the wings. 266 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: And I'll answer that question I'm also curious what fuck 267 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: thinks about it. But first, this, to me, it was 268 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: not a great press conference and speech from Joe Biden 269 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: at all yesterday afternoon, But this, to me was the 270 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: personification of why Joe Biden is in over his head. 271 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: Listen to this as he prepared to take questions from 272 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: the media. This is Joe Biden yesterday, Ladies and gentlemen. 273 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: Gave me a list here. The first person I was 274 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: instructed to call on was Kelly O'donald nbclay. What the 275 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: heck is that? It's so unbelievably embarrassing that the president 276 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: of the United States cannot actually pick his own people 277 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: to call on. And even if you have a list, 278 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: which we know he does, because there's been pictures sometimes 279 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: that go out virally of a list of people that 280 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is going to call in an order. I 281 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: just wonder about all of this in terms of his 282 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: mental faculties. Look, you can criticize Donald Trump, and god 283 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: knows he got criticized for everything, but he would stand 284 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: and take questions sometimes for hours from the media, calling 285 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: on people both favorable and unfavorable to him, and and 286 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: and all of his press people came out and said 287 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: we never gave him a list and said, hey, you're 288 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: gonna call on this person first. It was like Gulliver 289 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: with the Lilliputians trying to, you know, hold him down 290 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: an attack him. And Trump was was they would there 291 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: be a frenzy during these gaggles and sprays and these 292 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: things they do, and Trump would just look. It was 293 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: one of the most one of the more magnificent things 294 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: of his presidency. Was just one after another. You know you, 295 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, be quiet, you not true you. That's where 296 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: he would take it. Joe Biden, it's this is the 297 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: this is basement Biden, who is now having to walk 298 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: around and act like he actually knows what the heck 299 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: is going on and what's happening here Buck is. They 300 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: know what the questions are going to be, so they 301 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: are prepping him for, Hey, you're gonna get asked by 302 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: this person what that question is. And I wonder on 303 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: some level, I don't know where the teleprompter is or 304 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: whether the media can see it as he is speaking, 305 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: but I feel like a lot of these questions they 306 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: have his answer already typed out for him, and he 307 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: is reading most of it off of the prompter too, 308 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: whether it's Biden or any other politician. If you don't 309 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: get them off script, if they're just gonna try to 310 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: fillibuster by reading talking points, you're never going to find 311 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: out anything. Just remember that should be a general principle here. 312 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: You'll never learn anything. And Clay that I just want 313 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: to know you feel better if Kamala Harris is come 314 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: out to the the chief next week? Theoretically you do? You know, 315 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time. Yeah, it's it's such 316 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: a great question because I spent a lot of time, 317 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: Like I feel like Kamala Harris is more mentally there, 318 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: but I think she's going to make worst decisions even 319 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: than Joe. Let's throw it to the audience. Kamala or Joe. 320 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: You have to pick. You have no choice. I'm curious 321 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: what they'd say. I am as well. And you know 322 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: what I'm not curious about is who has the best 323 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: products out there for your home. 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As we said to you, we got 342 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: some big stories yet Today, of course, continuing coverage and 343 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: analysis of the massive suicide bombing attack at Cobble Airport yesterday. 344 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: We'll be joined by a former Navy sealed Jack Carr, 345 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: friend of mine, great guy, bestselling author. In the second 346 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: out of the program, third out of the program of 347 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: Alex Barnson on everything going on right now, booster shots 348 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: getting moved up sooner, it seems Biden just spoke about this. 349 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: Get ready for those booster shots, folks, get ready for 350 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: the mandates, and schools get ready for corporate mandates. They're 351 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: gonna start with the hospital systems and then they're gonna 352 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: go all across the country. I don't know, maybe maybe 353 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: we should try to stop it or else just wait, 354 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna be faced with lose your job, 355 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: or get the shot and get the shot again, and 356 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: get the shot again. But I don't know. I'd like 357 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: to I'd like to have us hold the line somewhere 358 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: on this. That's That's what I'm hoping to do, hoping 359 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: to find a way we can start that somewhere. But 360 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: interview last night on NBC News with Lieutenant Michael Bird, 361 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: who it's been rumored, i think on the internet for 362 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: a while that he was in fact the individual involved here. 363 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: But he is the Capitol Hill police officer who shot 364 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: Ashley Babbitt the neck. Now, Clay and I, you know, 365 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: I've had some background in law enforcement and baseline tactical training. 366 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: Clay obviously as a lawyer. We wanted to go through 367 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: some of this, and really, first of all, it was 368 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: they couldn't have tried to make it a more favorable 369 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: platform for Officer Bird's narrative. You'll hear that yourself. We 370 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: want to take this though, piece by piece and address 371 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: how I mean. For me, this is the whole thing 372 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: is outrageous because the politics involved are quite clear in 373 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: terms of how this has been handled. But let's start 374 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: with Michael Bird saying that he showed tremendous courage in 375 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: the shooting. Of course I do. That is a very 376 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: vital point, and it's something that it's frightening. I believe 377 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: I showed the utmost carriage on January sixth, and it's 378 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: time for me to do that now, the utmost courage, Clay. 379 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: Have you heard any of the officers involved in fatal 380 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: shootings that got a lot of national attention, and including 381 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: times when an assailant was reaching for a gun or 382 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: going for a knife. Have you heard any of them 383 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: ever say well, I showed tremendous courage and shooting that person. No, 384 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: and if they did, we already have protests, but there 385 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: would be mass rioting in the streets. I want to 386 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: hear all these quotes, and I want our audience to 387 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: hear them all because I think with everything going on 388 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: with Afghanistan, reasonably this story has kind of slid under 389 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: the radar. But I want to keep playing these quotes, 390 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: and I just want you, as you listen to these quotes, 391 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: just think what the reaction would be from blackwallis matter. 392 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: If a white police officer who shot an unarmed protester 393 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: had said all of these things, what the reaction would 394 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: be compared to the comparative crickets in response to this. 395 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: Let's just keep playing these clips because again, I think 396 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: a large part of our audience has not heard all 397 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: of these quotes, and certainly, as you said, Buck, this 398 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: gentleman had not even been named prior to this interview 399 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: that he just decided to do. Here he is discussing 400 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: that he believed Ashley Babbitt was posing an imminent threat. Remember, 401 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: this is an unarmed woman still on the other side 402 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: of the door, trying to break in and open a door. 403 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: He has the gun drawn for quite a plenty of time. 404 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: He can see exactly what's going on. It's on video. 405 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: We have video of this encounter. Here is what he says, 406 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: I'd been yelling and screaming as loud as I was, 407 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: please stop, get back, get back, stop. We had our 408 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: weapons throwing. We see your arm out there for a 409 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: considerable amount of time. Were you wavering? I was taking 410 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: a tactical stance. You're ultimately hoping that your commands will 411 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: be complied with, and unfortunately they were not. What did 412 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: you think this individual was doing? Then? She was posing 413 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: a threat to United States House of Representatives. All right, 414 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: lawyer Clay, she's posing a threat. How was she posing 415 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: more of a threat than we can see in the video? 416 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: There are people all pressed against the door. So under 417 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: this use of force justification, that's very specific, it seems 418 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: to this circumstance. And by the way, I've been all morning, 419 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: I've been checking in with law Enforce and friends of 420 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: mine who are back the Blue guys and another one. 421 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: They say, you hit a Capitol Hill police officer in 422 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: the head with a rock or something. You know, you 423 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: got to serve time. They back law Enforce and they 424 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: say this is something else, Clay. If that's the use 425 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: of force justification, could this officer have unloaded his whole 426 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: clip and shot eight people up against that door? They 427 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: were all posted theory. Yes, in theory, that's the point, Buck, right, 428 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: And again, I don't like when we put ourselves in 429 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: a position where we have to micro analyze every single 430 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: police officer in the moment. But I do think that 431 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: we need to apply consistent standards that are that are 432 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: equal to all police officers. And we've said this for 433 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: a long time. Look, I am a steadfast believer that 434 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: we need more police officers. Defund the police, the dumbest 435 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: argument that's made in the twenty first century in American 436 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: political life. But every police officers not perfect. And certainly 437 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: I can't even remember Buck, hardly ever a police officer 438 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: come out and basically call himself a hero for shooting 439 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: an unarmed woman or man for that matter. I just 440 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: I can't remember it ever happening before. And I'm thinking 441 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 1: to myself, what would the response have been in the 442 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 1: media if that had ever happened. I think we have 443 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: one more clip of this gentleman who fired the shot 444 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: that killed Ashley Babbitt that we should play where he says, basically, Buck, 445 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken that he saved countless lives based 446 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: on his choice, Well, it's disheartening if he was in 447 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: the room or anywhere, and I'm responsible for him. I 448 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: was prepared to do the same thing for him and 449 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: his family. Would you have his back today if he 450 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: were so assigned, I sure would, because it's my job, 451 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: Sarah Clay, that's on me. I fired the wrong one there. 452 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: But that was in response to the question about Donald 453 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: Trump saying that he's a murder Trump said that Lieutenant 454 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: Birds a murderer. But to the one that you brought up, 455 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: he did say he saved count according to law, it 456 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: does not. I know, based on my training and my policy, 457 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: what I did was appropriate. Have you continued to question 458 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: your action of that day. I knew that day. I 459 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: followed my training, and I spent countless years preparing for 460 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: such a moment. You ultimately hope that moment never occurs, 461 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: but you prepare as best you can. I know that 462 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: day I saved countless lives. How could he have saved 463 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: countless lives. Let's let's unpack this club. That's that's the 464 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: dumbest and most ridiculous statement that he made in the 465 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: entire interview. To me, there are there are hundreds of riders, 466 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: and as we know, a lot of them were walking 467 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: around taking selfies, selfie sticks. They had selfie sticks. But okay, 468 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: there were some riders who were violent police and destroyed property. 469 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: That is a fact, that's true. Okay, how many of 470 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: them actually tried to use lethal force and succeeded in 471 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: doing it against anybody? The answer zero. They didn't actually 472 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: kill anybody. So by shooting what he's saying is by 473 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: shooting Ashley Babbitt in the neck, there are riders and 474 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: other parts of the facility. They're riders, you know, swarming 475 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: the capital complex. He saved countless lives. Really, how does 476 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: that make any sense? It's a total lie. And what 477 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: I would say is just picture. This is what I 478 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: want everybody out there listening to us right now to picture. 479 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: Pretend that a police officer shoots a protester during Black 480 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: Lives Matter, and let's make it a white police officer 481 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: who shoots a young, unarmed black person. What would the 482 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: reaction be in the media if that police officer did 483 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: a public interview and claimed that he saved countless lives, 484 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: there would be mass protests in the streets and the 485 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: outrage meter would be off the charts. Yet this quote 486 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: comes out sit down interview and I bet many of 487 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: our listeners right now, the first and only time they 488 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: will hear that quote will be from us on this show. Buck, 489 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: I really think that I'm not seeing it anywhere else, hardly, Clay. 490 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: There were thousands of officers who were wounded, some quite 491 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: seriously over the course of BLM protestingly attacked by being 492 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: physically assaulted by protesters. That is what happened. Now, if 493 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: you're being punched or kicked or hit with a rock 494 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: by a protester, that's pretty clear that you're under threat. 495 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: And yet, as you and I both know, especially with 496 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: a dynamic you described, if a BLM protester, particularly a 497 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: young black protester, shot from fifteen feet away for refusing 498 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: a command, which is essentially an anti trespass command from 499 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: a law enforcement officer, there there would be more. There'd 500 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: be buildings burned down, You'd have CNN standing in front 501 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: of them. By the way, that officer would one hundred 502 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: percent be charged with a crime. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. 503 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: We don't really need these buildings anyway. It's just problem. 504 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 1: We're just burning buildings down now because protest what I 505 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 1: am arguing for, and this is me putting my lawyer, 506 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: hat On buck Is, and I know this frustrates a 507 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: lot of people out there. I still believe in the 508 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: idea of justice being blind. That's why, Lady Justice, when 509 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: you look at the scales of justice, is wearing a 510 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: blindfold because we have to look at all the facts. 511 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: And what I was trained in law school is only 512 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: three things matter in every case. The facts, the facts. 513 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: The facts. The facts are now out entirely about this case. 514 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: And are we applying the same standards of justice to 515 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: this Capitol Hill police officer as we would in other circumstances. 516 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: I think the answer is we are not, and the 517 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: reason why we're not is because of politics. And I 518 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: understand that Ashley Babbott was not without flaw right. I'm 519 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: not proclaiming that she was one hundred percent innocent in 520 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: this scenario, but I understand why her family has filed 521 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: this ten million dollar wrongful death lawsuit and why they're 522 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 1: looking around and saying, wait a minute. If you change 523 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: the politics in this scenario, our son daughter protesting for 524 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: Black Lives matter, would be a martyr and there would 525 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: be significant charges probably brought against this police officer. But 526 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: in this situation, that's not occurring, and I think these 527 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: are all legitimate and serious and real questions which people 528 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: in our position should be discussing in an honest fashion 529 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: with their audience. And I bet Buck we are one 530 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: of the only shows out there that will actually do 531 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: this anywhere today and we will continue to do so. 532 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: We've also got coming up Jack Carr, former Navy seal, 533 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: to talk about the list that was allegedly handed over 534 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: or now reported it. I think it's been confirmed handed 535 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: over of all US personnel and Afghans who are helping. 536 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: So stupid. I mean, as an x CIA guy, handing 537 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: out list with names like this is just you think 538 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: to yourself, how could anyone have such poor operational security. 539 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Jack about that. And also we got 540 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: Barrenson on COVID. We'll take your calls because we got 541 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people in in clay on Kamala versus Joe. 542 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: If you have to pick, don't call in and say 543 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, we yeah, of course I want Trump too, 544 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: But if you have to pick Kamalo or Joe. But 545 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: let's let's switch gears here for a moment, because this 546 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: year marks the twentieth anniversary of nine to eleven twenty 547 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: years since nearly three thousand innocent civilians were killed by 548 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: terrorists on our soil. Inspired from that day, the Tunlet 549 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: to Towers Foundation has been honoring America's heroes ever since. 550 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: They're bringing hope to families across the country by giving 551 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: two hundred mortgage free homes to heroes and their families, 552 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: gold Star and fallen first responder families with young children 553 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: are getting their mortgage paid off so they can stay 554 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: in their homes where their memories are. Clay, it's an 555 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: amazing organization. Yeah, and that's not all in an emotional 556 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: tribute to the fallen Frank Sillers, Never forget walk is 557 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: taking him more than five hundred miles by foot to 558 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: connect the nine eleven sites. You can help Tunnel the 559 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: Towers honor America's heroes as we approach the twentieth anniversary 560 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: of nine eleven by donating eleven dollars a month at 561 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: t twot dot org. That's t the number two t 562 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: dot org. Welcome back to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 563 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: We are going to get to some calls here. We 564 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: said it's open line Friday, and we meet it David 565 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: in Davis County, Utah. What have you got. We're gonna 566 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: have to keep Joe until after this afghan disaster is done. 567 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: If we don't, the Taliban and isis K will gain 568 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: the ultimate cashe we removed on American president, and I 569 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: think it would make things even worse. It's interesting, it's 570 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: an interesting argument, I think. Buck My thoughts on this 571 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: would be that we're not removing Biden because of what 572 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: happened in Afghanistan. We're removing him overall for the incompetence 573 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: at the border, for inflation surging, for the murder rates 574 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: hitting all time high. In other words, all of these 575 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: adding together are what demonstrates Biden's incompetence. This is just 576 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: the latest example of that. And by the way, even 577 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: before the terror attack, Afghanistan was incompetent. This was just 578 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: unfortunately that additional disaster. Yeah, thank you, David. Though, interesting 579 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: interesting point of view on that. I think he's right. 580 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that would definitely play into Look, the only 581 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: way Biden goes is if he resigns. Right, there's no mechanism. 582 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: There's no universe in which the Democrats. By the way, 583 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't care you could find Joe Biden on video 584 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: doing anything doesn't matter. Democrats are not going to impeach 585 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: their guy, so he would have to step down. Clay, 586 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: He's not going to do it. But if he did 587 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: do it, there is that component of where the Taliban 588 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: would say, we even brought an American presidency to its knees, 589 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: which they're kind of doing anyway. Well. And I think 590 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: also the other angle is I'm not sure Democrats what 591 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: Kamala in office right because she's so much less popular 592 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: than Biden. That was the big theory coming into the 593 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: election was that if Biden won, he would resign and 594 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: he would allow Kamala to run as the incumbent in 595 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. And I think there was a fear 596 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: that she would be a stronger incumbent certainly than he 597 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: would because let's be honest, I would put the chances 598 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is able to run in twenty twenty 599 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: four at zero right now, Like I just I don't 600 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: see zero. Look like I don't see any way based 601 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: on his press conferences and his public availability and the 602 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 1: decline that I feel like we're seeing on a week 603 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: to week and month to month basis in his mental 604 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: and physical faculties. I don't think there's any way. And Buck, Look, 605 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: this is the sad thing about using the campaign from 606 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: the basement. I think that there's no way Joe Biden 607 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: wins if he has to go on the road in campaign, 608 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: because I think his frailty would have been so much 609 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: more noticeable. He was unique to this situation of lockdown 610 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: year and COVID, a guy everyone knew and they could say, oh, 611 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: but it will all be normal and he's good old 612 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: Joe and then they hit him in the basement. But 613 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: this is a little bit like in Ghostbusters when they say, 614 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, choose the form of the destructor and you 615 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: have the big and then you got the stay puff 616 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: marshmallow man. Well you know, it's like we choose the 617 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: form of the destructor in either Joe Biden or Kamala. 618 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: Harris here Dale at Northampton says he'd rather have Well, Dale, 619 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: you tell us yeah, fire away but yeah, yeah, what ah, Sorry, 620 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: I say, Camilla can't do anything worse than this guy 621 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: has done. He's proven to be a total failure. She 622 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: might laugh a lot, but I don't think she'd laughed 623 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: about American citizens dying or dying all right, all right, Dale, 624 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: Dale's going. Dale's going a vote, a vote for Kamala. 625 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: Let's see we get Lonnie in Beaumont, Texas. Lonnie, who 626 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: you got? Well? I hate to site this, but Hillary Clinton? Wow? 627 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: Hy this this is an interesting question if we made 628 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: people vote. I actually think Hillary is wildly more of 629 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: a effective leader than either Joe Biden or Kamala. Harris 630 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: would be right if you had to pick one of 631 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: those three, like you can toss it, Nancy Pelosi. I mean, 632 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: do you agree with me? Right? Like if you had 633 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 1: to pick Wow, this is really this is rough man, 634 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: This is like you had to pick somebody to respond to. Uh, 635 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: just let's want to cut off my toe or my finger? Class. 636 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: I know it's a tough call. We gotta we gotta 637 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: get back to a Jack Carr here, former Navy seal. 638 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: In just a few minutes. We'll come back to it. 639 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: You're listening to Clay Travis, said Buck Sexton Fundy EIB 640 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: Network