1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It's February twenty second, twenty 8 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: twenty three. This is season eighteen, episode number one seventeen. 9 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. We're live 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: from s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star War presenter 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: by mill of like the Only Beer of the Dallas Cowboys, 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: and today I think we're actually going to get to 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: the topic that we started a couple of weeks ago, 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: where we're going to identify the biggest question for the 15 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys at each position. We got through the quarterback in 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: the running back position on that episode. We'll start up 17 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: with tight end today and keep moving through the roster 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: seeing what we think. But before we get there, I 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about the franchise tag. Yesterday, 20 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: the NFL Franchise Tag period opened. It will remain open 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: through March seven. So basically, teams have two weeks to 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: be able to identify players that would like to put 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: the franchise tag on. In March seventh, at four pm Eastern, 24 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: that window will close, and then they'll start on March 25 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: thirteenth and negotiating period, that little tampering period where teams 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: can start talking to players about free agency and deals. 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: And then on March fifteenth at three pm Central, that's 28 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: when free agency will begin. Here's my question for you, guys, 29 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: who would you use the tag on for the Cowboys. 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay it out for you. You've got, I'm 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: gonna give you four different options, and I'll tell you 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: how much you'd have to pay for them. Some of 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: them may seem well be, but I will throw him 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: out there just for the sake of discussion. Dalton Schultz 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys would pay roughly about eleven point three million dollars 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: to put the tag on him. Tony Pollard Cowboys would 37 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: pay roughly about ten point one million to put the 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: tag on him. Layton vander esh he would have to 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: pay a whopping almost twenty one million dollars to put 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: the franchise tag on him. And then Donovan Wilson Cowboys 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: would have to pay about fourteen point five million to 42 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: put the tag on him. Which of those would you 43 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: put the tag on? Or your other option could be 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: none of the above. I think this is pretty easy, honestly, 45 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: because I'm the best guy is the cheapest guy. So 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: to me, I would go Tony Pollard on all day long, 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: because I don't I mean, I don't know if some 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: of these guys, I don't know if you even want 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: to bring back anyways, and especially for that price. But 50 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, I think at ten point one that you're 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: getting a steel And I think with him specifically, it's 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: perfect time to go one year with him, and you 53 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: know you're going to draft the running back at some point, 54 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: and I think it's, you know, him coming back from injury. 55 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: I definitely wanted for one more year and then we'll 56 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: see what happens after that. Maybe this is the year 57 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: that he breaks down. I mean, I mean, knock on wood, 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: I hope not. But I'm just saying running backs at 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: that age, I mean, at that level of their career, 60 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, what the wear and teary looks like. 61 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: But I go one year ten point one. I think 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: that's almost a steel. Do we expect then he kind 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: of set back from the injury that I would have 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: some kind of effect in I know he should be 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: ready by training camp, but is that the type of 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: injury that maybe it kind of changes his footwork and 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: speed and game? Really? Yeah, you know, it's one of 68 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: those things. It's a It's a really good question because 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: we kind of thought the same thing with Michael Gallup. 70 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: And I know it's a knee and an ankle or 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: two different things. But you look at when you start 72 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: to talk about ankles and running backs and they use 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: their feet their legs, is there going to be the 74 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: flexibility there? You know? Is it going to be the 75 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: same for him? I don't think. You know, with Tony, 76 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: he's he's one of those guys that I feel like 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: that he would bounce back. But with a running back, 78 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: you don't know. You just don't know, because where is 79 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: the ankle flexibility? Where's the ability to cut, to break, 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: to turn to pivot? You know, where where are you 81 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: with all that? It was a pretty significant injury that 82 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: he had. Me personally to answer your question, I don't 83 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: tag any of these guys. I don't and I do 84 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: this for the reason of I have a little bit 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: of advantage because I've looked at all the players in 86 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: the college draft, you know. I mean, I've seen the 87 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: running backs in the draft. I've seen the list of 88 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: the pro free agents. I'm sure you guys have seen 89 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: all those names and stuff like that. To me, I'm 90 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: going to let him go and test this market. I 91 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are fifty fifty on this one. I 92 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: really really do. I don't. I think there's people in 93 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: the building that would like to see him, you know, 94 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: at one year at ten million dollars makes a lot 95 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: of sense, you know, yeah, you know, if there's that 96 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: unknown that you just asked about. You know, I think 97 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: being in the running back business, especially with tags and 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: contracts and stuff, is dangerous. I think it really really is. 99 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: As much as I love Tony, I think I feel 100 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: like they need to kind of start over here with this. 101 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: I think you could kind of move on from Tony 102 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: and you might be in a situation too where Tony 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: goes out with other running backs trying to get deals. Well, 104 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: he's a little bit of a damaged goods right now. 105 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: Are you going to give a guy, you know, six 106 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: seven million dollars a year as a damaged player with 107 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: that kind of that unknown. But you do know the 108 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: college running back situation, you do no free agency with 109 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: the other running backs. I'm gonna take a chance. I'm 110 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: gonna maybe get Tony Pollard back on a deal that's 111 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: not going to be tag tag high. So that's kind 112 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: of where I'm at right there. And if i lose 113 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, then I'm going to trust what I do 114 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: very well. I'm gonna draft, you know, I'm gonna go 115 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: out there and I'm gonna draft, and I'm gonna study, 116 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: and i'm gonna figure this thing out, and I'm gonna 117 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: get the guy that kind of fits the best. There's 118 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: several of these backs that have similar qualities to what 119 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: you get with Tony Pollard. So I'm gonna let him 120 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: test the market and see what he can get. And 121 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: if you want to come back to us and say, hey, 122 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: we got this kind of a deal and you shop 123 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: it back to us, maybe we'll consider it. But other 124 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: than that, I think i'm gonna let I'm gonna let 125 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: these guys all kind of go test the market. Yeah, 126 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: money wise, it seems like it would be the right deal. 127 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: For the Cowboys to kind of put a tag on Pollard. 128 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: But I am concerned about the injury and just not 129 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: really knowing. But I do think that it all goes 130 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: into like in correlation with what's going to happen with 131 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: Zeke and what are they gonna do that with him. 132 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: I just find it very hard to believe that they 133 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: would have those two running backs here next season, like 134 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: something's gonna one of them is gonna be gone. I 135 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: do think that it's hard also for me to see 136 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: at us both of them being gone. But then to 137 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: that point, do you what do you do with Zeke? 138 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: I see I kind of see right now despite the injury, 139 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: I see Zeke more out the door than I see 140 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: taller and taller Poler Tony Poller being out. But you know, 141 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if they if they can come to 142 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: an agreement to even cut or how much they would 143 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: even cut zeek salary. You're right, that's the big domino first. 144 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you got to make that decision before you 145 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: make some others. I believe, but you know, I just 146 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: feel like the injury is the reason why the franchise 147 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: tag makes sense, because yeah, there's there's some unknown but 148 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm willing to take that chance at the ten point one, 149 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: mainly because and when he went down, we talked about this. 150 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: When he went down, I remember being in the press 151 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: box going it's over, this game is over. And it 152 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: wasn't you know, they couldn't make a kick to save 153 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: their life. You know, Mayer wasn't gonna make any kind 154 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: of kick until I guess later in the game. But 155 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: like you didn't feel like you had that weapon, You 156 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: had nothing going for you. It was just CD. And 157 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, so that for that reason alone, I think 158 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: I would say I'm gonna bring Pollard back again. Let's see, 159 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: got one of the best rehab teams there is. I 160 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: think that he'll be in good shape for there. I mean, 161 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: the Julius Jones kind of scares me a little bit. 162 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: High ankle's brain. Second year of his career never really 163 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: was the same, So we'll see. You know, that was 164 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, but I'm just saying I still think 165 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: Pollard with one year, I like it, and I like 166 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: drafting a guy, and draft a guy Pollard, Willie Davis, 167 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. I'm gonna take you back to 168 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: what you were thinking in that game. Coming back to 169 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: the old school fools. Yeah. Does that say more to 170 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: you though about your thoughts on Zeke and whether Zeke 171 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: should be here next year? Yeah, yes, yeah, I think 172 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: I think that Zeke, and we've talked about this on 173 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: one oh five three the Fan, if that we feel 174 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,599 Speaker 1: like that Zeke is in the situation of what you 175 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: had with Dez Bryant DeMarcus Ware. You know, you don't 176 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: you think so much of these players that you don't 177 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: want to low ball them so badly that you say, Okay, 178 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: you're only gonna play here if it's the veteran minimum. 179 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: They moved on from where they moved on from Dez Bryant. 180 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: You know, remember that whole thing with Dez Bryant. It 181 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: was just kind of what's gonna happen, what's gonna happen, 182 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: and then you know, he's you know, they're in their 183 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: draft meetings over here, Jerry and Dez all of a 184 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: sudden have a meeting and then Dez storms out, never 185 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: again to be back in the facility. You know, I 186 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: have a feeling that it's going to be the same 187 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: way with Zeke. I think there. I don't think they 188 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: want to I don't think they want to take zeke 189 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: salary so low that it's an embarrassment to him. I 190 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: think they're just gonna move on now again to your 191 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: you know Pollard question about that, that's if Pollard wasn't 192 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: hurt to me. I agree about the tag. I agree. 193 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: The thing is, now that he's injured, I'm gonna bet. 194 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet. Yeah, we got the rehab and all that, 195 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna bet that somebody else is not going 196 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: to see it like we do right here, right now, 197 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: and that you can maybe get him back. And it's 198 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: not that not that ten million dollars that you have 199 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: to pay. So let's assume for a second that that happened. 200 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: Is that a better or a worse situation, because then 201 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: you're now going to have to probably do a multi 202 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: year deal where I'm thinking maybe if he I'm I'm 203 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: trying to bet that. I'm trying to bet and the 204 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: fact I talked to somebody in the league yesterday that's 205 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: fifty fifty on him. It's not a slam dunk. Yeah. 206 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: I talked to one of my gang of seven guys 207 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: around the league and I said, Hey, where do you 208 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: see Poard? What would you do? With Pollard and they 209 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: gave me I'd say it's fifty fifty it really really, 210 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: you rather do three for twenty five. I'm throwing numbers 211 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: out here. Three for twenty five, you know, a little 212 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: bit more than eighty years, probably less per year, but yeah, 213 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: but but you have three years. Yeah, And I'll that's 214 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: that's interesting too, because he's at that point in his 215 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: career where a running back. You know, you're like, is 216 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: he gonna get a big deal? Is he not? I'm gambling. 217 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm gambling only because I know I know that, I 218 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: know what he is as a player, but I know 219 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: he's injured to rehab and I don't know, from Ambar's point, 220 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: how he's going to come back. And do I want 221 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: to pay? I paid. I already saw what happened with 222 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: Polar excume me with Gallup, you know, the knee and stuff. 223 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he came back, he was but it wasn't 224 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: the same. It just wasn't the same. And now we're like, 225 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: the team needs are drafted wide receiver, they need a 226 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: second wide receiver. And now you're like, wait a minute, 227 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: we just paid for one here. I don't think I'm 228 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: going down that path again. But if he was, if 229 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: he was completely healthy, I would I would totally dance 230 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: with you on this one. But I'm gonna gamble too. 231 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: I think it's a gamble as well, and I would 232 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: do it. I think the ten million of the year 233 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: is a gamble because of the injury. But I'm willing 234 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 1: to do it because I saw what difference maker he was, like, 235 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: he is a difference And the thing about Zeke, this 236 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: is the interesting part. I think Zeke would be a 237 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: really good number two running back for any team that's 238 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: got a you know, an established, established number one starter. 239 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: You know, let's say somebody like a Chicago that has 240 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: a Montgomery and then he comes in and he would 241 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: be really good. But I don't think he is a 242 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: good number too. When you've got Pollard, who've got question 243 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: marks at number one. That's that's the issue. That's the 244 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: average amount of years that you give a running back. 245 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: Pollar's about to go into his fifth year. Yea, that's 246 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: the The wear and tear on him is not as 247 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: bad as this was. Zeke and I and I just 248 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: remember this. I remember this Hard Knocks episode where Stephen 249 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: Jones was standing next to Mike McCarthy and he was 250 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: pointing out to Zeke and he goes, man, you guys 251 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: have given him a lot of carries. You guys have 252 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: given you know. And this was two three years ago 253 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: when that that hard knocks and I'm thinking, well, he's 254 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: already seen it then, you know, now where are we 255 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: with zek? I think? I think to me, I think 256 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: it's a move on. You take your cap hit and 257 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: then you you go for it. He had like a 258 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: hate smile, kind of like Steven acknowledges, like stevens Cone's like, well, yeah, yeah, 259 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: we have, we've we've he's carried the ball a lot. Yeah, 260 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: you're right about that, coach translation, Uh, give someone else 261 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: the ball? Yeah, Like when when I when I when 262 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: one of the owners comes in and says, um, I 263 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: think maybe we should you know, like, yeah, any think 264 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: maybe we should give the boat a Lance Dumbar. I 265 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: mean I remember when Jerry used to say that. I'm like, oh, 266 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: then Lance Dumbar is gonna get the ball. Yeah. I 267 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: think the interesting thing here is that And I don't 268 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: know which way I really believe here, but I've I've 269 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: heard a lot of people with the concept of never 270 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: give a running back in the NFL, A second deal 271 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: just because there's just too many other young fresh out 272 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: of college facts that you can get from. It can 273 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: get you similar production for a lot less money in 274 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: a stra in a capstrack litchtrap league, Like if you 275 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: were in a league that was like the nineties where 276 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: there was no salary cap, then go for it. Keep 277 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: paying them and keep them here as long as you 278 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: want to keep them here. But it does make you 279 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: wonder is it a better just when you talk about 280 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: the philosophy of team building, it is a better model 281 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: to say, if I'm going to spend money, it won't 282 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: necessarily be on a second contract for running back because 283 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: of replacement value is relatively spend I'm not doing that. 284 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I like the one year deal. Yeah, 285 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: you're not going to draft the fourth overall pick it 286 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: and Zeke. I mean, you're not getting that guy. You're 287 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: getting some first round maybe second round whatever, and you 288 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: might have a little bit of a learning curve. Yes, 289 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: runners can come in the league and make a difference, 290 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: but you're gonna have a little bit of a curve. 291 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: I like, my guy have a one year deal. He's 292 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: coming back from an injury, he's got something to prove 293 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: as well, to prove that he's worth a big deal. 294 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: I got him. I'm drafting someone. How high are you drafting? 295 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean wherever he falls to me, if if, if 296 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: the Texas kid is there, the in Dijon, I know 297 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: there's two. If that kid is there at twenty six, 298 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that pick. I really am with with 299 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: now with five year deal, with five years guarantee, I'm 300 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: fine with especially running back. I'll take the five years 301 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: and then I'll probably move on situation. It seems like 302 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: this guy is ready to play. You've seen him more 303 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: than okay. We know that there's always okay, one of 304 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: a kind. Oh yeah, and you're just looking at the 305 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: position itself. Obviously you look for talent as well. But 306 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: how high are you rating taking him off because he's 307 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: a special Hell, then I like the Alabama kid. Gibbs 308 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: is a game in the first round. Yeah, I actually, 309 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, I went to the Arkansas Alabama game and 310 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: I think he had three hundred rushing yards in the 311 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. You remember him from the Texas game. I 312 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: do he know. That's That's the thing about That's the 313 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: only reason why I'm I'm interested to seeing if I'm 314 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: gambling on Pollard is because I know there's probably six 315 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: or seven running backs that are legitimate R and it, 316 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: A and M kid. He's he's a second round kid, 317 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I like, I mean, he's a second third fourn This 318 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: thing is gonna stretch the tank Bigsby. We're gonna have 319 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: the draft show falling this one today. Yeah, Auburn Tank. 320 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: Bigsby is a guy that. Yeah. See that's I'm saying, 321 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: there's options here. You know. See that's where I'm kind 322 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: of you know, you've got compensatory picks, You've got all 323 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: these kinds of things. Here's here's another thing about Pollard. 324 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: Go go, Look he started four games his whole career. Yeah, okay, 325 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: in those four games, I gotta look this up. But 326 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: in those four games, I think the Cowboys have scored 327 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: forty points every time he's I mean he started a game, 328 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean average average forty, average forty. Because there was 329 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: the Green Bay he scored twenty eight. They're scoring points 330 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: with them. So I'm just saying, for one year, give 331 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: I'll give him. I'll give him a one year. I'm 332 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: not against that. Yeah, I don't know what happened to 333 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: the running game because when when all the both those 334 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: backs stopped any kind of production when Steele went out. 335 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: You know, I mean there's games were Pollard go go 336 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: look at them, go gook the game against the Commanders, 337 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, you play them twice a year, you know, 338 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: and and both those games were like I'm you know, 339 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: twenty something yards, thirty something yards, you know it. There 340 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: were some games where he had one hundred and thirty 341 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: yards or what I mean. There's but then all of 342 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, Steel gets hurt and the running game goes 343 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: to hell. You know, nobody's running the ball, and you're like, going, 344 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: wait a minute, now, well, why why are we not 345 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: running the ball anymore? Is it the backs? Is that 346 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: the line? I mean, I I'm one of these guys 347 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: that believe putting Tyrn Smith at right tackle was gonna 348 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: be better, you know, and it wasn't. And that's the 349 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: interesting thing here, Brian. If let's say, for example, you've 350 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: got that ten million dollars that you would use on 351 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: the franchise tag that you tell me, Okay, we're not 352 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: gonna franchise him. We're gonna select somebody in the draft, 353 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: probably gonna be paying him his coup hit will probably 354 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: be a million or so, and that other nine million 355 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: I can now use to go out and get me 356 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: a veteran guard. That's a really good veteran guard. What's 357 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: a better use of your money? Is it to keep 358 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: Pollard here on one year franchise tag or is it 359 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: spending that money on a better, better guard? Can I 360 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: so now your offensive line is better? Can I keep 361 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: Wilson and Vanderish? Maybe? I mean, I mean, it's it's 362 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: the same philosophy. It's the same philosophy that that that 363 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: they told Nick and everybody about about with Randy Gregory. 364 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: Jerry's argument about not paying Randy Gregory fourteen million dollars 365 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: years says he got three defensive players. Yeah, that's that's 366 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: the that's the by the way, Durrance's back up right, Yeah, see, 367 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: that's that's I mean. I was looking at the contracts 368 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: of Michael Gallop yea, and I was thinking, and you know, 369 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: that's a situation that the Cowboys. I don't know if 370 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: they're looking at that right now, but I would be like, 371 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: you can get out of this deal after nixt after 372 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: this year, this year, after this you could get out 373 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, but you could also save about eight 374 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: million dollars. If you said, we think he's going to 375 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: be a good receiver for us, let's let's extend him 376 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's extend his deal, lower his cap 377 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: right now, and push him out a little bit. You know, 378 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: you could do that. You could save some money as well. So, 379 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of different that's a risky 380 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: one just because you don't know what that's gonna mean 381 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: two or three years from now exactly. I mean, I 382 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: don't gallop. Gallup had one game with fifty yards or 383 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: more of this year and that was sixty four. It 384 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: wasn't like he was you know, he had more games 385 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: with zero than he had over fifty, right, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 386 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: for that amount of money, And that's a that's a 387 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: risk if you if you choose wrong on that one. 388 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's take our first break when we come back. 389 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: We're going to dive into this the question of what's 390 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: the biggest problem or question the Cowboys have to solve 391 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: at each position. We're going to start with the tight 392 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: ends when we come back. This is the Dallas Cowboys 393 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: dot Com Radio. 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Welcome back, second 437 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: segment of the Break Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. 438 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: At the start, we're presented by mill of Light, the 439 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: only beer of the Dallas Cowboys, and this segment is 440 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: brought to you by blockchain dot Com. All right, here 441 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: we go. Let's talk positions. And the question I have 442 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: is for you guys is pretty simple. It's what's the 443 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: biggest question that the Cowboys have to answer at each position? 444 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: That could be about a player contract, that can be 445 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: about player performance, whatever you want to path you want 446 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: to go down, But we're gonna talk about the position. 447 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: Let's start with the tight end position. We've already talked 448 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: about running back and quarterback in our last show, so 449 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about tight end Nick. Which what do you 450 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: think is the biggest question for the Cowboys this year 451 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: in at tight end? Um? Who's who's the starter? I mean, like, 452 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: who's who? Who are they gonna have to replace? Um? 453 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz And that's what I think he would go 454 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: to free agency. I think he'll probably get a deal 455 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: and if somebody will will pay that based off of production. 456 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: And then then is do they feel like Ferguson is 457 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: ready to be the starter there? Or do they draft 458 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: or they sign someone. I'm here, I think they will 459 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: sign somebody. But um, you know, I just just kind 460 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: of what do they do with that third spot. Do 461 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: they feel like it's just another draft pick? Or they 462 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: did they get a veteran Maybe I could see a 463 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: veteran guy that's kind of more of a blocker. You know, 464 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: these two, these two young guys were good. Would it 465 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: kill you guys if they took the best tight end 466 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: in the draft at twenty six? Yes, No, wouldn't kill me. 467 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: I will tell you this. Let me put it. It's uh, 468 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: it's Michael Mary six five. He's two sixty five from 469 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Can he be Kelsey or Kittle? He can? He? Yeah, 470 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: he's out the ability to he's he doesn't have the 471 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: great speed, but there's plenty of routes where you see 472 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: him doing stuff that same kind of game, the dragging, 473 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: the up the field stuff all that. Let me ask 474 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: you this, what I heard. What I heard about him 475 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: was he is more in the mold of Witten than Kelsey. Yeah, 476 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: and the reason why and the reason why that makes 477 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: no no, no, no no no. But here's why it makes 478 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: a difference to me. Yeah, if I'm willing to pay 479 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: that higher premium a first round pick on him, I 480 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: really need him to be a mismatch problem for other teams. 481 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: I don't know that Witten was ever a mismatch problem. 482 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: Whitten just had a knack for you. Put a linebacker 483 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: on me, stirred down. I'll find a way to get open. 484 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna catch the ball. You're gonna tackle me first down. 485 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: We moved the chains. Isn't that a mismatch? Well, no, 486 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: But the difference, I mean, the cowboy history, the difference is, 487 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: the difference is coming up here tomorrow. The difference is 488 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: a mismatch type player. The one I'm talking about, a 489 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: Kelsey type is he's now he's out wide. Yeah, he's 490 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: all over the play. You don't know where he's lining up. 491 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: He's down the field like he does a lot more things. 492 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm not 493 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: diminishing what Witten does. I'm saying, if I'm gonna pay 494 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: a premium like you gotta steal getting Jason Witten in 495 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: the third round. Yeah, first round. We got lucky attacking 496 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: that draft, No doubt you did. We did. We had 497 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: a first round. He was our last player. And that 498 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: the reason I asked that was Witten's grade was a 499 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: one one nine. The lower the grade, the better, So 500 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: one one nine would be the very last player in 501 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: the first round. So if you had twenty names, he 502 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: was number twenty. And so all of a sudden, and 503 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: this was a draft that was pretty deep. LJ. Smith, Sidler, 504 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: Dallas Clark from Iowa. They had, there was players. I mean, 505 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: people were like, well, I'll take this guy, I'll take 506 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: this guy. And so Witten just kept going down the 507 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: board and finally it's like, you know, Jerry LuxI Bill 508 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: and like, we gotta take Witton, don't we. It's a 509 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: first Fronily like, yeah, we'll take him. Now here we go, 510 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: let's turn the card in, you know the kind of thing. 511 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 1: So if you're telling me that you can get Witten, 512 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: the guy that has that kind of longevity, it could 513 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: potentially lead the team in receptions about his career. I'm 514 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm more open to that, and I'm not I 515 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't be as disappointed in that. But I understand what 516 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: you're saying, because Luke Musgrave from Oregon State fits the 517 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: guy that you're talking about. But that might be a 518 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: guy that when you talk about Mayor is the first 519 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: round guy, and then Musgrave is just right there, just 520 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: right below him as far as that goes. But I 521 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: think that you're trying to replace Schultz, am I? I 522 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: I think so. I think I think the Cowboys are 523 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: trying to I don't know about you. Well, I guess 524 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: the reason why I said why I said again that 525 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: sounds weird, And the reason why I'm saying that is 526 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: because when I talk about those two types of tight 527 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: ends right now, the way I'm looking at it is overall, 528 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: my offense needs more firepower. I got it. That's the problem. 529 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: And so I don't need necessarily a third down type 530 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: tight end. I need a tight end it's going to 531 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: create problems. That's gonna catch the ball, run twenty yards, 532 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: jump over someone and then just bulldoze someone else, loses helmet, 533 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: los his helmet running. No, no no, no, I'm talking about 534 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: what Ferguson did. I got a fourth round pick out 535 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: of Scholtz. He's developed into a pretty good touchdown catcher, 536 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: and he can make no, no, no, not at all. 537 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: He can go, he can walk backwards or where where. 538 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: You know. I'm good with the tight ends you have 539 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: right now. And that's also another reason why him no, 540 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: not at all, because as a matter of fact, because 541 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: not only that, the reason why when you look at 542 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: even taking a tight end the first round, the reason 543 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: I was hesitant initially is so much because I'm like, 544 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: I believe in the two tight ends you got. I 545 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: think you have enough at tight end. So I look 546 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: at a lot of other positions where I'm like, man, 547 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: I need a lot more around on this team that 548 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: I need tight end. That's what I'm like. Literally, I'm 549 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: just sitting here listening to you guys, and tight end 550 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 1: is one of my least problems right now in my 551 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: mind of problems and positions of needs. Um, I do 552 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: get the point that tight end is a very very 553 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: important position, especially for a guy like Dak. Dak does 554 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: tend to rely and need the help and comfort of 555 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: a guy that can be there and secure in tight end. 556 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: But I think that what Ferguson and what Hendershot have 557 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: done this year or did last year, it impressed me 558 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: enough to believe that they are more than capable of 559 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: taking another step in this coming year. You do need 560 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: another guy to come in there. But I am sorry, Brian, 561 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: I am not looking to draft. I mean, that's the thing. 562 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: You don't know what the player is going to become 563 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: until they become that. You don't know if Jason Witten 564 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: was gonna be Jason Witten. So for this specific year, 565 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. I would rather draft a wide 566 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: receiver than a tight end right now. I can't wait 567 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: till episode one hundred and sixty five when Derek when 568 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: we launch into Derek about this tight end and you 569 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: feel you feel like the tight ends are getting the 570 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: best out of the tight ends, and Derek is going 571 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: to have amnesia about this thing. Honestly, again, I just 572 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't feel like Ferguson is far off from being 573 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: able to provide what Schultz provides. Sure, So for me, 574 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: I'll take the chance that I think that he'll be fine. 575 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: Do you think we're gonna try to cut Ferguson after 576 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: the end of this training camp? No, because that's what 577 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, And by the way, let's let's be clear, 578 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: Schultz has been a good tight end from Cowboys. Oh yeah, 579 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: he's gotten let's not, let's not, let's not look over that. 580 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna get paid this offseason by somebody. Yeah. 581 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't think the Cowboys in a position where they 582 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: have to pay him because they have alternatives. They got 583 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: other options. Yeah. Yeah, And you look at you know 584 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: those guys that you mentioned in the previous segment, like 585 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson, Layton vander esh Um, Tony Pollard and then 586 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: and then uh this guy, I meant Schultz, all of 587 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: the lost this guy. Yeah, he's already out. He's already 588 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking into my world. Yeah. No, No, those four guys, 589 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: you trust me five hours a day, right, But he 590 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: they got better when when Scharltz got hurt, like like, 591 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: they won games. I mean, you know, Cooper Rushman and 592 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: they still Man, I'm just saying, but Tony poll is 593 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: the guy that I think when when he went down, 594 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: he saw a big difference. So that's why there's other 595 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: three they were able to win games. Let me ask 596 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: you this, would you feel Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna 597 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: throw the Schultz thing out there again on the tag again, 598 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask you this. No, No, I'm because 599 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm worried about the wide receiver Roote. I'm worried about 600 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: the wide receivers in this draft. I'm worried about the 601 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: wide receivers in this draft. This, this draft class is 602 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: not what we've seen from the last two or three years. 603 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: So I mean we could all throw out. Let's draft 604 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: the wide receiver. Okay, it's a five ten kid from 605 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: North Carolina, you know, I mean, whoa, whoa? Whoa? What 606 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: did we just wait? Where's Chase? You know? Where's Jefferson? 607 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: Where's Lamb? To become free? Okay, I'm gonna ask you 608 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: this question. Not much Okay, get ready, get ready, get 609 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: ready to get Would you feel better? Would you feel better? 610 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: And let's do you think the owner would feel better 611 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: if they did tag Schultz and got Odell Beckham? No, 612 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't do. Those two things have to be tied 613 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: together like I just tied together for you. I'm not. 614 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I'm willing to say yes, I will 615 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: look at I want to look at somebody like like 616 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: like like Odell. Yeah. I don't. Still don't think the 617 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: right option is you have to bring back Sheltz. I 618 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: think you got tight end options now again, but she 619 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: just talked about Dak and like how he relies on 620 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: a tight ends, but he has Ferguson Ferguson Hendershot can 621 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: provide that for him. I don't think you. I don't 622 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: think you have to go out and get shelts in 623 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: order to get that. And by the way, this goes 624 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: back to the original point I was making. Because of 625 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: what I think about the wide receiver class of free agents, 626 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: because of what I've heard about the draft class of 627 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: wide receivers, if you can give me a tight end 628 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: who can create matchup problems, then you can do something 629 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: similar to how an offense can run when you have 630 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: those types of tight ends. Now you got that kind 631 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: of tight end with a CD Lamb, that's that can 632 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 1: really create some problems as opposed to having to have 633 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: two really great wide receivers. Right. I like it. Look, 634 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 1: Ryan's not buying it, but no, no, I'm buying it 635 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: just because I'm a I'm nervous about how this wide 636 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: receiver draft class is gonna shake. Because if Adam we'll 637 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: talk about on the Draft show it's after this show, 638 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about it here a little bit. If Addison, Hyatt, Johnston, Smith, 639 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: and Jigbo all are gone. Now you're looking at You're 640 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: looking at a completely different group of wide receivers. So 641 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: would you take one of those guys in the first 642 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: round if they were if one falsey, which one like 643 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: you just mentioned? The three I have is Addison from USC, 644 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: Hyatt from Tennessee, and Johnston from TCU all all first 645 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: round guys, and then Smith and Jigbo from Ohio State 646 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: is on the top of the second round. Now if 647 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: I've only got twenty names in the first round, so 648 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: you would take him at twenty six? Maybe at twenty six, 649 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm kind of yeah. I mean that's but don't feel 650 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: like that at twenty six that you know someone's gonna have. 651 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: I think make a mistake for you to get one 652 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: of those top guys. And I'm saying if you if 653 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: the names I just mentioned, they would be behind guys 654 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: that we've seen in this last draft. So even though 655 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: the first round, ye, so a g don't be going on. 656 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: My wide receiver group has got to get better. I 657 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: don't know if I can help you, my friend, I 658 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: don't know if I can help you right now? Where 659 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: you trade twenty six for for a receiver. You know 660 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: what this this owner digs just you're talking about I mean, 661 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm what I'm saying is are you 662 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: talking about going out and getting a premiere wide receiver 663 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL? Like trade that if you can get 664 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: a premier wide receiver. Yeah, I'm not a name of 665 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: names I mean, but I mean, if he's related to 666 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: anybody on the team, there you go. See that's what 667 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If he is, I 668 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: see this guy, this owner has a history of Back's 669 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: brother plays in the league, but he doesn't. He tweets 670 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: a lot, but he does. What about's brother had a brother? 671 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, go ahead. So but the thing 672 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: about it is, though, if you're looking at wide receiver, 673 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: that's not a bad that's not a bad thought. Because 674 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: the one thing this ownership has proven is they will 675 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: move draft capital for wide receivers, whether you like it 676 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: or not. Joey Galloway, Roy Williams, you know, Mary Cooper, 677 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: they will move draft capital. Go get wat Has that 678 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: worked it worked? I would say it worked. We'll see. 679 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: But I'm trying to What I'm trying to do is 680 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you an established wide receiver like a 681 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: guy like Diggs. Yeah, I said it. You know, I 682 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: don't you know, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. It's not their fault, 683 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: it's my fault. I'm not Look, the point at the 684 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: point is what you're saying is would you be willing 685 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: to take because of the lack of talent at or 686 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: perceived talent at in free agency at wide receiver the draft? 687 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: Would you be willing to go out and spend that 688 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: first round pick if you could get a high caliber 689 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking top ten wide receiver in the NFL. They 690 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: talked about Mike Mike Evans. Mike Evans is a name. 691 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: It's being floated for a lot of people. It's being 692 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: floated like, oh, you could go get Mike Evans. He's 693 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: had one year on a twenty three million dollars contract, 694 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: got one year left on a twenty three million dollar contract. 695 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: Look at the end of the day, a draft pick 696 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: are we talking there for a guy like that? Would 697 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: see That's what I'm saying. If somebody, somebody with somebody 698 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: holds that's what I'm saying, you wouldn't give you know, 699 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you're picking in the top ten, you 700 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: surely wouldn't do this. But if you're if you're, if 701 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: you're that focused on we've got to have a wide receiver. Now, 702 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: that might be your best route that guy, I don't know. 703 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: We talked about other players, but I don't know. I 704 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know Jen Tolber, who is still 705 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: under development. Yeah, and maybe that's a scary thing. That's 706 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: the scary thing when you start talking about wide receivers. 707 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: Some of these cats. I mean, you you end up 708 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: drafting like you know, some of these teams, I mean 709 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: they rager goes and you know, you just get lucky 710 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: with some of these receivers and where they fall. Yeah, 711 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: I just I think that right now, the most glaring 712 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: problem for this team. Need for this team is they 713 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: gotta get more playmakers, because I agree with you, Nick, 714 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: when Polite went out of that game, it to me 715 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: it felt like your your opportunity to make big plays 716 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: and certainly just to scare the opposing defense was gone 717 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: other than CD. And if you've got only one guy 718 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: that scares a defense, they're gonna take him away. And 719 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: so they need more juice on the offensive side of 720 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: the ball. So I'm I'm drafting a back at some point, 721 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: and I'm looking for whether it's free agency, whether it's 722 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: a trade, whatever it is. I'm looking for another playmaking 723 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: type offensive player where the offense tighten something. You know, 724 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm out on the first round or any round. Really 725 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: trade trading for veteran receiver. I can't do that. Come on, man, 726 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: you've done it twenty years of your life. I know, 727 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: I know, but but but you've got to pay CD. 728 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: CD is gonna be on your team. You gotta pay CD. 729 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: You've already paid Michael Gallup, and you're gonna say, hey, 730 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: guy gave us, you gave us the parachute. Pull on 731 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: on Gallop. If we had to, right, you can, you can, 732 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: But I don't think I would do that. I think 733 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: I would actually do the whole move him out for 734 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: four or more year after this year, spread it out. 735 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: He's gone, Oh, you're saying, you're saying your restructure, your restructure, 736 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: and just out, Hey, she's not too happy with you, right, 737 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gotta look at her Gallup fifth year. 738 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: I know you got a different opinion. Gallup is the 739 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: guy that you will you can change your opinion about him, 740 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: fourteen times during the season. Yeah, like like he's like, 741 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: oh see, he does make those catches. He's a good player. 742 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: And then other times you're like, did he play yet? Right, Yeah, 743 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: he played twenty six. They're taking a corner and I'm 744 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: fine with that. Get ready for that. I'm not against 745 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: that at all, not against that. I mean, you said 746 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: tied in. I was like, well, if he's like those two, 747 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: I can see it. Receiver, I can see it. Running back, 748 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: I can see it. Is he a big nasty guard 749 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: that can come right in and plug. That's a That's 750 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: another thing from that guy. There's there's a lot of 751 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: position when you start really breaking it down, like the 752 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: linebacker they're gonna need. They got needs at linebacker right now, 753 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: I think, all right, let's take our final break. When 754 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: we come back, we will we will talk about the 755 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver position, and we've talked about it a little bit. 756 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: We'll get into a little bit more well that when 757 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: we come back. Dallas Cowboys, I come radio. The season 758 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: is finally here. For months. 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Did you is Beyonce 802 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: coming to the stadium? I don't know. I hear that. 803 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's I don't know, I concert. 804 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,479 Speaker 1: She doesn't have a concert. She's got a tour. Yeah, 805 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: she got a tour, but she making a trip to 806 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: the stadium. We know this, Yeah, I don't know. I 807 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: haven't No, I don't know. We see it on the 808 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: we see it. That's true. I've seen it on that 809 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 1: a bunch of advertis Yes, yes, on a horse she's 810 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: on a horse lane. She's coming to the Yeah. Yeah, 811 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: but that that's for her tour. You guys gonna get 812 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: a box, that's my question. September twenty September twenty first good. Yeah. 813 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: I get confused. I get confused on what I know 814 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to know and what I know that 815 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to know. So I wasn't sure if 816 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: this was something I knew that I didn't mean. I 817 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: didn't mean to bring up something that you didn't supposed 818 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: to know. But but yeah, I guess we got the date. 819 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: So yes, yes, yes, Bryan An, you're gonna get a box. 820 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: You're gonna box the at and T Stadium. You're not 821 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: the last concert I went to. You get all the time. 822 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, show up for those great concert concert 823 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: I went to. No, last concert I went to was 824 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: Rodneo and Joe Cooley. Oh really that tells you anything. 825 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: I was in I thought it was. I thought it 826 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: was exactly. You don't boys them in in Vegas. No, 827 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm not act I'm like, I can listen to music 828 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: in my house or in my car. I don't need 829 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: to go to a concert for But I know a 830 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: lot of people love concerts. That's just not my thing. 831 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: We'll go see if you have a chance. Yeah, And 832 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: now here's the deal. I might be there because my 833 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: daughter wants to go. There, you go, life wants to 834 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: go there, you go. You know, I'm just not a 835 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: concert people be in college. Hey, trust me. Yeah, it's 836 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: that's September. You're gonna have to take on seven more 837 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: jobs like I have. Yeah, I kind of a deal. 838 00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. Talk about these wide receivers' 839 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: talk about these bid receivers. The biggest question Cowboys have 840 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 1: to answer at wide receiver. We got three minutes Nick 841 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: Michael Gallop. Can Michael Gallab be the guy you know 842 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: Ken Kenny or the number two guy opposite of Ceedee Lamb? 843 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: You can't. You look at the Tampa game that they 844 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: lost Week one. I mean the receivers there were Dennis Houston, 845 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: Noah Brown and CD and the Buccaneers won that game 846 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: because they neutralized CD and no one else could hurt him. 847 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: They Michael Gallop has got to figure out. They got 848 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: to figure out ways to get him to be a 849 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: really good number two receiver. What's up with Jalen Tilbert? Yeah, 850 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,479 Speaker 1: I gotta figure that one out. A good question. What's 851 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: up with Jalen Tilbert? They told us that, you know, 852 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones came on you know it's come on various 853 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: platforms and said, you know, maybe we gave him a 854 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: little bit too much. Mike McCarthy kind of said the 855 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: same thing. Where where are we at with Jalen Tilburg? 856 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: That's gonna be if you want to talk about with 857 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: can you get Lamb's contract done? Which you know that 858 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna go full steam ahead on that one. The 859 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: Gallop stuff. To me, the big question is is Tolbert 860 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: a guy that you're going to be able to rely on? 861 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: And how do they and now do you worry about 862 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: with a new play caller, do you worry about him 863 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: having to learn something completely different? We'll see true? To me, 864 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: it just feels like there wasn't really much progress made 865 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: from a year ago when we were at training camp 866 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's happening with wide receiver right now? 867 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: The only guy that you feel that you can now 868 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: rely on a City Lamb and kind of what And 869 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: it took him a little second there to get going, 870 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: but he did it and he showed a huge step 871 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: in his game, I thought. But other than that, everybody 872 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: else you want to mention, We talked about Michael Gallup 873 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: like he's a guy that, based on why we saw 874 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: this past season, that's not a guy that I'm like 875 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: thinking I can rely on or consider a threat or 876 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: a weapon currently. He's made certain really great plays, but 877 00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: there's nobody else and here I just I just hope 878 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: we're not at training camp figuring out or having the 879 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: same similar conversation that we were having a year ago. 880 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna disagree with you on that, just because 881 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb was that big question Mark two, like is 882 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: can he be the number one? I mean that was 883 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,479 Speaker 1: one of our twenty questions. I was like number four, 884 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: like can Ceedee Lamb be the number one? And I 885 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: think that has been answered, which that helps. Now. Yeah, 886 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: I took him a little second, he got there, and 887 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's like he's the only guy. No, 888 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm worried about the number two receiver. He's worried about 889 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: number three receiver and all that stuff. So I mean, 890 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: you're right. See there's still gonna be questions at receiver, 891 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: but I do think they're in a little better situation 892 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: because you know that CD has proven he could be 893 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: the guy. Well, the question also could be too if 894 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: some of they draft, could they be better than Gallop 895 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: and Talbert? You know, depending on where Yeah right away? 896 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: Did they come in and fit or do you have 897 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: another year like you had with Tilbert. I don't think 898 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: you can afford that. No, you gotta be honest with you. 899 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: I could very easily see a scenario, and I know 900 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: what everybody here doesn't see it, but I could see 901 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: a scenario where you're going to training camp and you 902 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: have a very similar wide receiver room is what you 903 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: had last year. Because things just don't pan out for 904 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: you in the draft. Things you just don't pan out 905 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: for you in free agency. There's just not the there's 906 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: not the level of opportunity out there to be able 907 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: to add an impact player. You might get a guy 908 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: that's equivalent to a you know, to a Gallop, or 909 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: a guy that's equivalent to a Noah Brown. I don't 910 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: know that we're gonna go to camp. I think it's 911 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: a real possibility you could go to camp and still 912 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: have this type this type of wide receiver room. The 913 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: numbers will well, obviously you'll get back up because you're 914 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: probably gonna lose no Brown. I would guess. I don't know, 915 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: he might be back. But the point is I could 916 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: see a scenario where, because of limited options, you go 917 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: back and you run it back with what you got. 918 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: I know, and I don't know that anybody wants that, 919 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: but I think that might be where you are. This 920 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: is not like Brian was saying. This doesn't sound like 921 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: it's a draft where you're gonna be in the second round. 922 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: You still got plenty of wide receiver. You're gonna be 923 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: in the third round. You've got plenty of wide receiver options. 924 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like it's that kind of draft. You look 925 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: at the free agency list. I know Patrick Walker did 926 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: an article where he was kind of laying out some 927 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 1: of the free agency and free agency and wide receiver 928 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 1: and I looked at that list and thought, is that 929 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: it like it wasn't anything that excites you. These are 930 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: the kind of guys that are equivalent, in my opinion, 931 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: to Gallop And so, yeah, you could go get one 932 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: of those guys, but I don't know that you're appreciably better. 933 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: And that's the point. You want somebody that's better. The 934 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: only person that really right now is on the horizon 935 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: that looks like he might be better. Could be a 936 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: healthy Odell Beckham junior. That's it in my opinion. Guys 937 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: on the street, on the street, and you've done all 938 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: the guys that you project will be free agent, and 939 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: you've done a lot of legwork on that one. Yeah, 940 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: you've done a lot of leg where that's not flying blind. 941 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: You know what it's probably gonna take there. All right, 942 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 1: we appreciate you, guys. Jan Us we'll be back next week. 943 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: We'll get a little deeper into this look. It looks 944 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: at like at this point we might finish it right 945 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: before training camp. We'll see how that goes till then. 946 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: For Nick, even Brian brought us a regard to see. 947 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eagles and this have been the Break live 948 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This is a production 949 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,399 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.