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Speaker 1: On body Bags, what we're covering is in just an

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Speaker 2: Right, that's the best way to put in general. Because

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Speaker 2: So, Christy Giles is twenty four year old married. Her

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Speaker 1: a course of treatment because it's so overwhelming the drugs

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Speaker 1: that they would in fact have on board day.

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Speaker 2: It just breaks my heart, Joe, to see two young

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Speaker 2: women vibrant early in life, you know, and they just

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Speaker 2: went out to have fun together, that's all they did,

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Speaker 2: and they ran a foul of a man who calls

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Speaker 2: himself a producer, David Pierce, there is I don't want

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Speaker 2: to you know, you and I both do not like

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Speaker 2: the idea of closure and things like that, saying such

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Speaker 2: a word to somebody who has gone through something that

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Speaker 2: is so emotionally just you don't get over it. But

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Speaker 2: there has been some justice meeted out. David Pierce was charged,

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Speaker 2: as were some of the other men, and this has

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Speaker 2: come down the pike in the last week that David

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Speaker 2: Pierce was convicted, okay, of two charges of first degree murder.

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Speaker 2: He actually, I want to make sure I get this straight,

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Speaker 2: because there were other charges that came down to back

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Speaker 2: up very quickly. No, actually was first this is from

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Speaker 2: the La County. I thought that too, but I went

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Speaker 2: to the DA the La County government site, and it's

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Speaker 2: I said. The jury found David Pierce guilty of all

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Speaker 2: charges and allegations, two counts first degree murder in the

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Speaker 2: death of Christy Giles and Hilda. When this case first broke,

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Speaker 2: Joe of the two women being dumped at hospitals by

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Speaker 2: men wearing masks and license plates removed from the car.

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Speaker 2: Other women said, Hey, that happened to me at the

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Speaker 2: same place this guy. So when these stories broke, all

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Speaker 2: of this came out and Pierces even has been convicted

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Speaker 2: three counts of forcible rape, one count of sexual penetration

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Speaker 2: by use of force, one count of sodomy by use

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Speaker 2: of force, one kind of rape of an unconscious woman,

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Speaker 2: and one count of sexual penetration by foreign object in

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Speaker 2: the sexual assaults of seven different victims. There might be

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Speaker 2: more later on.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think, am I correct in that these other

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Speaker 1: cases date back all the way to twenty ten? Don't

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven? Two thousand and seven, yes, well.

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Speaker 2: He went back further. It's amazing how long this guy's

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Speaker 2: been doing this show.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know that, you know, going back to what

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Speaker 1: we talked about earlier with the dumpings that had taken place. God,

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Speaker 1: I hate to say that. That's so horrible, Dave, it is.

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Speaker 2: It's so horrible to even say it. He did it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have to think what did we say

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Speaker 1: early on? You know we were talking about how this

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Speaker 1: goes to planning. Well, it goes to planning in the

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Speaker 1: sense that they're wearing masks, they're taking both the front

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Speaker 1: and the rear plate off of a car, and it

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Speaker 1: really gives you an idea that these individuals, and Pierce

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Speaker 1: in particular, has has a methodology to this madness where

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Speaker 1: he knows how this works. And again you know, the

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Speaker 1: idea of being a producer, you know, the producer part

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Speaker 1: of this is such an enticement to people that are

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Speaker 1: interested in being in entertainment that it is it's bait.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's absolutely positively bait that can be utilized

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Speaker 1: in order to draw an individual in. Here's another thing

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Speaker 1: that was kind of a slam dunk with this. You know,

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Speaker 1: Pierce's DNA was also found. There was DNA deposition that

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Speaker 1: was found on these on these young women as well.

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Speaker 1: That is a you know, a stone cold tie back,

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Speaker 1: you know, relative to this, and it's you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that anything in this ole world is an

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Speaker 1: absolute slam dunk when it comes to criminal charges, but

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Speaker 1: in this particular case, I do know this. There is

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Speaker 1: a individual who I would term as a super predator

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Speaker 1: that is now off the streets of Los Angeles, California.

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Speaker 1: I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and this is Bodybacks