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Speaker 1: Hello Texans. Great to have you bored. It is fun

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Speaker 1: time in Houston because it's December and the Texans are

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you and Johnny's got

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Speaker 1: Texans matchup a little bit later on tonight. That is

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Speaker 1: Radio six ' ten for a program that you need

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Speaker 1: to be listening to. It's also going to be available

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Speaker 1: via podcast right afterwards, so check it out. All the

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Speaker 1: hits from Sunday, the latest down of the Wire, dramatic

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Speaker 1: win over the Denver Broncos, and on that day, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: And by the way, how you doing, my friend?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well. What do you think is number one

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be, dang it. I didn't want to be predictable. Look,

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Speaker 1: this is pretty easy to prea want to. We've got

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift coming to the show, and who else you know,

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Speaker 1: and there were some other great hits that day as well.

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Speaker 1: Also on that day, we learned that the tax Act

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Speaker 1: Texas Bowl would feature Texas A and M and Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 1: And the executive director of the tax AC Texas Bowl

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Speaker 1: is here with us now, David Fletcher. How about that?

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Speaker 1: And Johnny, you get to visit with fletch a lot.

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Speaker 1: I do. I do not, So let's have at it now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome David. How you doing.

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Speaker 3: It is wonderful to see you, guys, Mark, I didn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. How about tell you he shows up every

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Speaker 1: all the hard hitting questions.

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Speaker 2: He thinks that I go soft on you in some sense,

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Speaker 2: so you want all the hard hitting questions.

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Speaker 1: Will Look, we're excited about this because I think when

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Speaker 1: I know I think Oklahoma State's having a visit today, right,

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Speaker 1: This is very cool in the building. Check it out

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Speaker 1: to have these two squads match up here. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, look, this is a event every year that We're

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Speaker 3: here come January twenty January eighth, but December twenty seventh,

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Speaker 3: the Taxak Texas Bowl. And what better way to do

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Speaker 2: Fletch, Were you watching Saturday and I talked about this

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Speaker 2: In fact, I know you got a call about halftime

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Speaker 2: So we know you were in Atlanta watching that particular games.

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Speaker 2: You're watching that Georgia Alabama game, did you have any

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Speaker 3: We knew that they had a great season. We knew

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because it's not the first time you've

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Speaker 1: Is that kind of how you see it and how

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Speaker 3: No, no question, no doubt. This is a game in

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Speaker 1: Hey, you had a great season.

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Speaker 3: This is your reward, but this is your opportunity to

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Speaker 3: I've had to use that phrase a lot over the

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Speaker 2: Can we kidnap Ali Gordon after his game and keep

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Speaker 1: Can we do that? And B?

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Speaker 2: What's your all thoughts about with the College Football Playoff

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Speaker 1: But your thoughts about the final four Texas being number

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Speaker 3: But but as it relates to the College Football Playoff

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, are we ready to talk about the other kind

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Speaker 3: An opportunity on those three dates will open up with

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Speaker 1: They will open their tournament here on June twenty second.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati now looks like it's formidable. At Seattle, yeah, and

437
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 2: you know, and then at Baltimore and again some of

438
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: these games, you know, what's Seattle playing for?

439
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 1: You know, Seattle still in this thing? Is Seattle still

440
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: in the mix by the time you get there? Yet?

441
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 2: What about the Ravens? Do they have it clinched where

442
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: week eighteen doesn't matter? I mean, obviously we've seen that

443
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: here a couple of times, you know, with the Titans

444
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 2: in nineteen in particular, you know, AJ mccheron's running the

445
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: game and the Titans have gotta have it, and then

446
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 2: the whole world went crazy when they won the game

447
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: by a touchdown against our JV squad. So is that

448
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 2: the Ravens have the JV squad going? Now it's at Baltimore,

449
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 2: and I know how that rivalry goes, and I would

450
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: imagine it's gonna stay close throughout. But this is also

451
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: a kind of separation time for some of these teams.

452
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 2: It starts to happen now eight and four, you know,

453
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: nine and three, somebody stays hot, goes to thirteen and three,

454
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 2: thirty thirteen and four or something like that. But there

455
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: are so many teams in the AFC they're knocking one

456
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: another off that any teams are within Like, we're the

457
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 2: eighth spot right now at seven and five. Yeah, and

458
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 2: we're what two games away from the from the Ravens.

459
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: Oh in the eight spot.

460
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 2: I mean, so it's all jumbled up so these next

461
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 2: five weeks, so you start looking at comparable schedules.

462
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: These guys.

463
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 2: The stealers to me are the atb Biscuits at around

464
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: minute seventeen and a half eighteen.

465
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: Okay, they're really almost inedible. This is gonna be tough.

466
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: You tell me about the Cleveland Browns now, because the

467
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns are also seven and five, and here's their

468
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: schedule down the stretch. Jacksonville at home with the beth

469
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: Third at quarterback. I'm gonna think that's the case. Then

470
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: the Bears at home at Texans Christmas Eve, Jets at

471
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: home at the Bengals. This looks like that interesting For

472
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, they are far from done. I think

473
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 1: they're they're less inedible than the Krielers Biscuits. That's Cleveland

474
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: might have to sign Bernie Kozar to play quarterback at

475
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: this point, but they for some reason are able to

476
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: hang in there. Now they've lost back to back games

477
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: Broncos Rams. Now they get the Jags at home. I

478
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: got a feeling they get right in the next couple

479
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: of games. But here we've got a little something waiting

480
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: for them here Christmas Eve, the cold of the stocking.

481
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: But they could still win nine ten that kind of thing.

482
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: Does that get them in?

483
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: This is an even more important question though. Yeah, on Sunday,

484
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 2: who were cheering for Jags?

485
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: Are Browns? That's a great question.

486
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 2: I thought this one backwards and forward, and after last night,

487
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like I.

488
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: Want the Browns to win. Now you want to see

489
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: the Jags just get totally damage Jags totally demolished. A right,

490
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: So let's say you win this weekend, the Jags lose.

491
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: Now you're tied with them right right now, you're tied

492
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: with them, but they have the division record, so you've

493
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: got to sweep your way out and they need to

494
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: still lose to Tennessee or lose an additional game so

495
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: they get behind you in the divisional stand and then

496
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: you have to win because you will not win a

497
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: tiebreaker with them, no way, know how, unless you went

498
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: out and they lose to the Titans, and I don't

499
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: think that's happening. I don't think they're losing to Tennessee.

500
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: I just feel like after last night, they could lose

501
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: to anybody.

502
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: I feel like after last night, even if Trevor is

503
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 2: back with a high ankle sprain. Yeah, Christian Kirk is

504
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: not own by the way, those Trevor and Kirk aren't

505
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: the only two Walker Little's banked up. Tyson Campbell is

506
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: still banged up, even though he played last night. They've

507
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: got about seven eight guys that got banged up in

508
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 2: that game. And the Jags are on a short week

509
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: and have to travel to play They have to travel

510
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: to play the Giant, to play the Browns.

511
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: Oh, the Browns, Yeah, I might just take dude, take

512
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: the l Maybe.

513
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: Maybe the Jags are like, oh, we just have to

514
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: go back and beat the Ravens at home.

515
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: Well, they beat the Ravens last year.

516
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ravens have got number one seed possibilities in

517
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: front of them.

518
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: It's still funny these who do you root for decisions?

519
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: I labor over these as if it has an impact

520
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: on the outcome, Who should I root for? Because this

521
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: is really going to effect things? True? I feel that

522
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: way and it's so not true. Just let it all unfold.

523
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: Last night, I thought, all right, Jack's are gonna win

524
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: this game, mis Jake Browning, and come on, what's gonna happened? Really?

525
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: I just wanted wanted it to be a close game.

526
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 1: I wanted it to be a good, entertaining Monday night

527
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: football game at the very least. And then I thought, hey,

528
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: the Bengals are kind of hanging around this deal. And

529
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: then when Lawrence got hurt. Even before Lawrence got hurt, look,

530
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: they were up twenty one to fourteen, the Bengals were,

531
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: and then they surrendered two touchdowns and you thought, oh oh,

532
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: but they tie the game, and you know the rest

533
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: of the story. Right, Can we get Browning? Looked really good,

534
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: you looked very very good. I mean thirty two of

535
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: thirty seven or something like that, and you had two drops.

536
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: He was incredible. Uh. Can we get to Darth Vader here? Yeah,

537
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: go for it. Can we get to the Indianapolis Colts? Yeah?

538
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: All right, so here's their schedule. I was definitely resisting.

539
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: But the done or not done and level of done

540
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: or not done on the Indianapolis Colts, the nemesis is

541
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: something to deal with Johnny. I'm gonna share two things

542
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: with you right now before you read their remaining schedule. One,

543
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: I kind of feel bad for the Jags fans after

544
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: last night, and I would do you know me, I

545
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: would never feel bad for the Titans fan base, or

546
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: the Titans organization, or the Colts fan base and the

547
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: Colts organization. There's something about the Jags. I don't know

548
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: what it is, and I shouldn't feel this way, but

549
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: I thought, Uh, it's not like I want them to win,

550
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: but we know so many nice people who have worked

551
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: there and everything. I just thought, Oh, that sucks for

552
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 1: them to have a night like that where they lose

553
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: their quarterback, because I don't wish that on anybody. Certainly

554
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: not going to want to invite bad karma into my

555
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: good energy right now with the Houston Texans here in

556
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: December of twenty twenty three. The other thing about this is,

557
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: and this is rare for me, I feel like the

558
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: Colts are being disrespected in a lot of the power rankings.

559
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: The Colts have the same record as the Texans. They

560
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: beat the Texans, and look, Richardson scored those two early

561
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the game when Gardner Minshew came in that afternoon.

562
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: I thought, oh goodie, we're gonna win this one. Now.

563
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, we're not. Yeah, And I know things

564
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: have really played out well for the Texans since then,

565
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: But the Colts keep on winning. Baby. They're in a

566
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: four game winning binge right now, and it's a big problem.

567
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: I hate the horseshoe. I think the league needs to

568
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: take notice here that this is a pretty solid squad

569
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: with the Minshew playing QB and change. Tikan is doing

570
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: a pretty decent job coaching this squad. He really has.

571
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they win games ten, They won a game ten

572
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: to six. They want to pay twenties here. Here's here's

573
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: the flip side of that. And this is why I

574
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: feel like maybe the power rankings are onto something a

575
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: little bit.

576
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: They beat the Titans. Had to get two block punts

577
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: to do it.

578
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to get and they had to get

579
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: an extra point miss at the end.

580
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: Good point.

581
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: The Patriots had the ball driving for the game. We

582
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: touched until Mac Jones happened. You know, the Buccaneers. You there,

583
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: control of the Buccaneers game for the most part, Carolina.

584
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: But the Colts beat us here. Yeah, they won at Baltimore.

585
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: How did that happen in Baltimore. They've swept the Titans,

586
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: they won at Carolina, they won in Germany. I mean

587
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: they just so here's their schedule. Their game Sunday just

588
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: got a little bit more difficult at Cincinnati.

589
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah Brown, thankfully, so Brown.

590
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: That fan base will be Jack have to be. They

591
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: have to be to end another to end a winning

592
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 2: streak before game winning streak. Bengals at Bengals, then play

593
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: on a Saturday at home against the Steelers, which is

594
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: always gonna be tough no matter what. So hopefully the

595
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: the Terrible Tower people will go in there and take

596
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: over the stadium.

597
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they will.

598
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve Day at Falcons, Yeah, Falcons play a little

599
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: bit better.

600
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: They got a lot to play for. Oh no, that's

601
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: a tough place to go. That's gonna be a tough

602
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 1: home one for them.

603
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: That people think New Year's Eve at home against the Raiders,

604
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: you never know, you're right, you never know, you absolutely

605
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: never know what the Raiders. And then obviously January seventh,

606
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: the showdown one, the big one against us, which is

607
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: gonna be really really it's gonna be so interesting, so interesting.

608
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: I there's almost there's almost almost almost a part of

609
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: it. It wants to just fast forward to Cateen and let's

610
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: just let's just go to that day and see where

611
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: everybody is and what it means. What does a win

612
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: mean that day. My hope is that a win means nothing.

613
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: That we're already in old and it's over, and it's

614
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: like Mill, you know.

615
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: That is my my secret desire. Maybe not so secret

616
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: because I'm on the air right now, but that is

617
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: my desire. You get to that game and it's Davis

618
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: Mills starting it is, have a nice day, don't get hurt.

619
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna play this one out. Give everybody out of

620
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: ball cap the whole day, the whole day, don't even

621
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: set foot on the field. Let's go. I don't think

622
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: you think that Miko would play everybody, No, he wouldn't.

623
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: He would sit everybody. I think it's quote meaningless. Yeah,

624
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: it eating list. It's hard though, with the forty eight

625
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: man forty six so much you can do, right, you

626
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: have to essentially make a list to say, Okay, these

627
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: guys are not playing at all, right, eight we need

628
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: them at all. Make him inactive. These eight got inactive.

629
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: Now you're playing this next eight, this next group eight,

630
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna play sporadically, they're gonna play a little bit.

631
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: But I think it also depends on you know, where

632
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: are the Texans in the You know that year against Tennessee,

633
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: we couldn't change our seat.

634
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing that could change win I lose.

635
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: So okay, what year was? What if? Sixteen, twenty sixteen, nineteen, nineteeneteen?

636
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: Here did we need it? In twenty sixteen when Savage

637
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: got the thing? We didn't need it. We know, we

638
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: just needed to play Savage because he hadn't played and

639
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: we were trying to get him going. And the quarterback

640
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: sneak and got hurt.

641
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: Oh that's why quarterbacks sneaks. Give me PTSD. That's when

642
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: I saw CJ struggling to get up. I was like,

643
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: it's not a gun again.

644
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: That Oh I would have creed to never have another one.

645
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody, somebody would, I mean, who have the new

646
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: mayor is would have had Houston Law written.

647
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: By the way, little side note here, Johnny, I'm in

648
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: favor of all teams. I mean, I know this is

649
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: not something I can control either, but having a Taysom Hill,

650
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: having a Jeff Driscal having a quarterback sneaker. You know,

651
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: our designated guy now can't be a back, a running back.

652
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: It has to be someone who could conceivably throw the football. Right,

653
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it should be Dara Gumbwale because he can do anything.

654
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: All right. Oh, there's a good.

655
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: Story coming up on the that they had on the

656
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: Players Players Huddle show that Darya gumb once took a

657
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: snap in a game against I can't remember who it was,

658
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: but for Wisconsin because apparently things kind of went awry

659
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: and they needed to spike the ball quickly. For some reason,

660
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: the quarterback was heard or out to launch or whatever,

661
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: and Darry went up, took the snap.

662
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: Spiked it. I am not surprised at all. He's he's

663
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: mister everything.

664
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: Drew and I were talking about this after the show

665
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: earlier today and we were talking about that story and

666
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: he said, and I said to him, for guy Indari

667
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: that hasn't played maybe, you know, minus special teams, maybe

668
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: seventy five plays this year. Yeah, I mean he's been

669
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: a lot of special teams, but how many impact plays.

670
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: As he had this year.

671
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: You're falling on the fumble the other day to hit

672
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: against Cincinnati, the fuel goal against Tampa Bay. I mean,

673
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: he's had some of the most impactful plays of this

674
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: year and he's played.

675
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe fifty plays on offense. There are so many

676
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: stories like that on this team, Desmond King. This is

677
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: not a huge story, but it's a story that you're

678
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: playing against this team for the Steelers on a big

679
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: day in franchise history with JJ Watt and a huge

680
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: win for the squad, and then weeks later you're back

681
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: on the team wearing your old number, making your old

682
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: energetic plays. I love that they put him up in

683
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: front of the media yesterday. He deserves a lot of

684
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: back lads, and you need them down to stretch here.

685
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: You need stories like this, players like this, contributions like this.

686
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: If it's going to be a season like this that

687
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: ends up in the postseason, that's what you want to see.

688
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: All right, I got another one for you. Okay, Now

689
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 1: this does not involve a playoff team, and we'll get

690
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: to the Jets in a moment, but this does not

691
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: involve a playoff team. But you know, I'm fascinated with

692
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: this story, the story of the two victory New England Patriots.

693
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: I just enjoy talking about it. I don't know I'm

694
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: curious to see what's going to happen here. I'm with

695
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: this squad had one of the greatest runs in the

696
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: history of sports. Really, look, this is nineteen twenty seven

697
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: or I know, the nineteen twenties New York Yankees, whatever

698
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: it was when they won a ton of World Series.

699
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean, this is as good as it would get

700
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: for almost any franchise ever. You know, when you look

701
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: at the two decades they had with Belichick and Brady

702
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: and now it's all over, and we wonder how the

703
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: exit is going would to be with two and ten

704
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: being the record headed into Pittsburgh and then they have

705
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: the Chiefs at Denver, Buffalo and the Jets. Maybe there's

706
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: another win in there somewhere. But Johnny, the fact that

707
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: they have played three consecutive games holding opponents to ten

708
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: or less and losing all three and that's the longest

709
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: streak of its kind in eighty five years. It is

710
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: amazing ineptitude on offense, and you know they have a

711
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: decent defense. If the offense was worth anything, it was

712
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: the middle of the pack offense, they'd be winning some

713
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: games and they might even be in this thing in

714
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: the AFC, which is all clogged up. But what do

715
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: you think happens? I mean, does it happen right away

716
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: after the season? Are we gonna have to wait a while?

717
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: The stories that are gonna come out will be incredible.

718
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: That Apple show that's going to premiere in February on

719
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: the Patriot Dynasty, I'm sure that's not done being shot

720
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: because they have to add a lot to it. There's

721
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: a conclusion to be made. What do you think Here's

722
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: it's so funny because I just have no idea. But

723
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: I thought about this when you brought up the Patriots.

724
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this for a few days.

725
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: It's one of the greatest dynasties ever in any sport,

726
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: especially in a salary cap sport.

727
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you know, Baseball not being salary cap.

728
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: Obviously there's no luxury tax now and all that, But

729
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: for a long time, it was who spent more? The

730
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: Red Sox and the Yankees are spent more. Who's gonna

731
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: spend more? Well, the Yankees spent more. They're gonna win

732
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: championship in a salary cap league. To win as much

733
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: as they did for as long as they did, and

734
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 2: then at the end for it to just go this hour.

735
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: Now maybe Patriots fans are like, no, no, no, it's

736
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 2: been this way the last couple of years.

737
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: The last two years is as bad and they have been.

738
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, but in twenty one they made the playoffs, right,

739
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: and then last year was but they all.

740
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: Thought, okay, well look Joe Judge and Matt Patricia were

741
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: our co offensive coordinators. Of course we're not going to

742
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: move the ball. Let's bring back in Billy, oh, and

743
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: we'll get going. We knew we were.

744
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: This had nothing to do with Bill. Everybody has their

745
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: thoughts on Bill. This had nothing to do with Bill.

746
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: There was no way he was going to change and

747
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: significantly upgrade that offense with the personnel that was there.

748
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: I remember saying that to you when we were we

749
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: were flying back from New England.

750
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: We didn't see their number ones.

751
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: But I just remember thinking, as I was kind of,

752
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: you know, prepping for the game, like this.

753
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: Offense may not be very good, not good at all.

754
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: And then this training camp continued and preseason games continued,

755
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: you'd hear they don't have a number three wide receiver,

756
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: much less than number one or number two. The offensive

757
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: line is that gonna hold up? Mac Jones? Is he

758
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: any good. I mean, like all those questions really started

759
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: popping up, and people were like, I don't know, this

760
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: doesn't look like.

761
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: What was the plan? Was a plan that coaching was

762
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: gonna make that much of a difference exactly.

763
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: My point is like they could only expect so much,

764
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: but I just don't I don't remember a dynasty. Now

765
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: there is a dynasty, but there's a huge difference the

766
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: Bulls dynasty. All of a sudden, they went from championship

767
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: in ninety eight to they are bellar dwellers.

768
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: In ninety nine. But everybody left, right, all right, everybody left.

769
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: This is not everybody leaving. Well, Brady leaving is a lot.

770
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: It's a big one right away. Yeah, Phil left too, right,

771
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: So they all left, They all left. They were all gone.

772
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: Scotty went to Houston, and I mean they are They

773
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: all were gone. They got rid of everybody, they started

774
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: all over and this and the Bulls had never gotten

775
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: back to that level at all. So that's a little different.

776
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: This is a dynasty falling off and the same people

777
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: are in place for the most part, which is you know,

778
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: obviously you're right Brady being out a few years ago.

779
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: But they made the playoffs. We got him playoffs. I

780
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: went to Gym Mora the playoffs.

781
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 2: They got to the playoffs without Brady, and Matt Jones

782
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: was looking like, Okay, he can be the future. He

783
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: can be the that the next few years he grows,

784
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: he grows, he grows. They could be a factor against

785
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: the Bills, they can be a factor against the Dolphins,

786
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: and the Jets will be the Jets. But then Mac

787
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: Jones at some point the last year scarred him and

788
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: I don't know that he ever got over it. And

789
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: because he didn't get over it, I think it's carried

790
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: through this year. And there were some bad habits and

791
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: things that he learned last year. And I don't know

792
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: that that Bills a type of coach to get.

793
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: Them out of that.

794
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 2: And I don't think Mac is a good enough quarterback

795
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: to pull himself out of that either. So it just

796
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: to me, it looked like, and you and I talked

797
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: about this a lot. To me, in my opinion, it

798
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: was a recipe for disaster. I mean, it was like

799
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 2: it's heading down a bad road in a bad road

800
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: soon all right.

801
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, Jake Morland, he played for

802
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: the Texans sort of, he practiced with them in the

803
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: inaugural season. More importantly is the current tight ends coach

804
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: for your Texans. He's next hear on Texans Radio. All right,

805
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: final segment tonight. As promised, this is a good one

806
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: of conversation with tight ends coach Jake Morland. Coach, how's

807
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: it going going? Well? All right? Well, I've been waiting

808
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: to do this interview for a long time, and this

809
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: is true. I know you haven't been chuckling about this,

810
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: but this is true. He's been waiting for this, all right.

811
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: So who is this impression of, hey see, this is

812
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: a good tight end. See, hey see, we're gonna sign

813
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: him see as an expansion team. Is that he doesn't know?

814
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: Charlie Casserly, the man who signed you to play for

815
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: the Texans, bringing up the day. Yeah, you're bringing up

816
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: some old old stuff. Now that's a long time. Well,

817
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know that you were here.

818
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: You were in the building in O two before the

819
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: team started playing, So you didn't you didn't hit the

820
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: field against the Cowboys night number one, but you were

821
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: here as you were winding down your NFL career. That's true.

822
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 4: I was here in two and and kind of getting

823
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: there was guys from all different teams that came in,

824
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: and then obviously they had the draft and everything with Carr,

825
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 4: and it was really exciting just to be part of,

826
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 4: you know, those inaugural practices getting everything going.

827
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: Jake, you've been around the NFL for a while.

828
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 2: When you came in here and there's an inaugural team

829
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: in the first year and everything that's new and everything's doing,

830
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: how different was it from your other LNFL experiences because

831
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: everything was so new here.

832
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because every team that I had been

833
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 4: on to that point had been a first year team.

834
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 4: So to me, it wasn't It wasn't. I mean, I

835
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: know it was an expansion team and all those kinds

836
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 4: of Cleveland for just well, I finished the year in Cleveland,

837
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 4: but it was like, you know, in two thousand it

838
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 4: was Al gir was a brand new coach, and then

839
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 4: in two thousand and one, I was still with the Jets,

840
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 4: but it was Herm Edwards, so it was again it

841
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: was a year one, yeah, and then coming down here

842
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: it was another year one.

843
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: So for me it was.

844
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: Like, oh, this is just kind of how the NFL goes.

845
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: I keep going to year one teams, but it was

846
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: really exciting, you know what I mean. And obviously the

847
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 4: juice that was around the city and everything about just

848
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 4: having another NFL team here.

849
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: You know, it was just a great experience, all right.

850
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: So I used to be the voice a long time

851
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: ago of the Central Michigan chip was, so I know

852
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: about the greatest rivalry in the history of sports between

853
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: Central Michigan and Western Michigan, where you went to school

854
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: coached for a long time. That's right, Yeah, huge rivalry. Yeah.

855
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 4: I think you probably have to grow up in the Midwest,

856
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 4: probably be in Michigan really to understand what's going on

857
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 4: with that. But fantastic rivalry between those two schools.

858
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

859
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: We've had a number of fire up Chips in the

860
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: building besides Mark and other employees, and they're always talking

861
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: about how great Central Michigan is and then Western Michigan

862
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: comes in. It is it's a big rivalry for Michigan.

863
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: But why Western Michigan from Milwaukee, from Wisconsin? What made

864
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: you choose Western Michigan.

865
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: It was really the people, to be honest with you,

866
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 4: it was outside of football. I kind of knew that

867
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 4: football was going to take care of itself, and I

868
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 4: met a lot of really great people on campus. Their

869
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: business program was one of the better ones in the Midwest,

870
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 4: and that's what I wanted to major in, and so

871
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 4: that was it ended up being the deciding factor.

872
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: Well, you coached there, you coached in the NFL, you

873
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: were mixing up your career a little bit, and then

874
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: you got back into the NFL. The differences between coaching

875
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: and college and the NFL and the preferences that coaches have.

876
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 1: Can you speak to that a little bit? Sure?

877
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: I would say that the major difference I didn't realize

878
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 4: it until I got back into the NFL is the

879
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 4: amount of time that you actually spend in recruiting. I mean,

880
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 4: I didn't know any different. Same thing I started coaching

881
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 4: when my career was when my football playing career was over.

882
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 4: I started coaching in three and had been a coach

883
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 4: in college all the way up until twenty twenty one,

884
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: so I didn't know any different. It's just you spend

885
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: time recruiting, and that part is great. I love the

886
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 4: recruiting process, to be perfectly honest with you, But when

887
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 4: you get to the NFL and you realize the amount

888
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 4: of time that you get to spend just focusing on

889
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 4: football and technique and the development of your athletes is

890
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: so much greater than what you get in college because

891
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: you only get to be around those guys for four

892
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: hours a day.

893
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: Here, we get these guys.

894
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 4: All day, right, So instead of going to class and

895
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: studying biology or math or whatever it is, they're studying football.

896
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 4: They're studying the defense. They're trying to figure out how

897
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 4: to dissect coverages and what blitzes look like. And it's

898
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 4: a totally different experience in that and it's one that's

899
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: really really fun.

900
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: Coach at that point.

901
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: Is it more rewarding to coach at the college level

902
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: with eighteen to twenty year old kids and see them

903
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: do something or is it more maybe not rewarding, but

904
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: then you're coaching adults. I mean, you could have some

905
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: guys in your room that end up having kids and

906
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: have your families. Whereas you're coaching eighteen to twenty two

907
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: year olds who maybe are getting that high level of football.

908
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 2: Maybe they didn't get that kind of experience in high school,

909
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: but they're getting at college levels, and.

910
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: More rewarding with younger kids. Is more rewarding with the

911
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: NFL players to see them do something at that level.

912
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's rewarding on both ends.

913
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: And I think that when you're in college football, the

914
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 4: opportunity to develop young men into people of character was

915
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 4: a huge reason why I wanted to get into coaching,

916
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: and so being around those young people from eighteen to

917
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: twenty two to twenty three years old and trying to

918
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 4: have an impact on young males in our country was

919
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: a huge, huge deal for me. The football part was

920
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 4: going to take care of itself, but it was really

921
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 4: the mentorship that I really grabbed a hold of, and

922
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 4: that's why I fell in love with coaching. But you

923
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: get the same thing here, just because now they're twenty five,

924
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 4: twenty six, twenty seven, even thirty year olds, that mentorship

925
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: doesn't change. Coaching is still teaching. Teaching is still mentorship,

926
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 4: and that's how that's how I approach it.

927
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Jake Morland coaches tight Ends for your Houston Texans coach,

928
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: I think tight Ends it's such an interesting group because

929
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: your receivers, your blockers, your sort of honorary offensive lineman,

930
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: you're into everything. So it makes it interesting to coach

931
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: them and multifaceted. It absolutely does.

932
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 4: I think playing the position helps you know it definitely

933
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 4: helps me because I can share with these guys things

934
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 4: that I've seen or that I've experienced, and hopefully that

935
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 4: helps them on game day. But that's one of the

936
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 4: fun funnest parts about being in the tight end room

937
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: is that we get a chance to do different things

938
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: week by week. And one of the mantras that that

939
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 4: this room is really embraced is that we're willing to

940
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: do whatever the offense and the team needs week by week.

941
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: Some weeks, we're going to be asked to catch a

942
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 4: bunch of balls and you know, extend the field and

943
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 4: and and really be viable in.

944
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: The past game.

945
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 4: Some weeks we're not going to catch any balls, and

946
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 4: we're going to be asked to pass protect and we're

947
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 4: going to be asked to be more in the run game.

948
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 4: And that's fine. Whatever it takes for us to win,

949
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 4: we're happy to do it.

950
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: And we've seen a lot of that this year.

951
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: You know, early on, when we had some issues with

952
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: the offensive line because of some injuries, your guys had

953
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: to block in pass protection. Then when Laramie comes back,

954
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: you got a few more opportunities. Coach, I've always looked

955
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: at the tight end as in the NFL in particular,

956
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: as when you say tight end it can mean like

957
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: five or six.

958
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: Different things from what it used to.

959
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you got Andrew Beck in your room, but

960
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: he's kind of a full back, he's kind of an

961
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: h back. He could line up a tight end. You

962
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: got Brevian who could line up at wide receiver, but

963
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: he's part tight end. It feels like coaching tight end's

964
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 2: kind of fun too, because you have so many different

965
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: body types and so many different dudes in that.

966
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 4: Room, that's right, and so being able to manage all

967
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: those body types and being able to manage, you know,

968
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 4: the way that those guys see the game and approach

969
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: the game is obviously very different person to person. You

970
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: brought up Andrew Beck, you know, he's got to know

971
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: what to do from the backfield, he's got to know

972
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 4: what to do as a wide receiver. Same thing with Brett.

973
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 4: Like all of these guys have so much talent and

974
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 4: they're able to use their talent for whatever we need.

975
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 4: And again that comes down to the that's the fun

976
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: part as coaches is trying to figure out how do

977
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: we take all these guys that have all of these

978
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 4: different talents and put it all together so that we

979
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: have a great product on Sunday.

980
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: So all right, so outside of the numbers, give me

981
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: two or three of your favorite tight ends to ever

982
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: play the position in the NFL.

983
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: To ever play. I mean it starts well. I have

984
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 4: to say that I started my career as a wide receiver.

985
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: So my hero growing up was Sterling Sharp right all

986
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: the way back, not Shannon. Now I say that to say,

987
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: Shannon Sharp became one of my favorite tight ends to

988
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 4: ever play the game, right, I mean a guy that

989
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 4: can really stretch the field, but he's strong and he's

990
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 4: physical and he does all those kind of things. You know,

991
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: you'd have to put George Kittle, I mean as one

992
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: of the more recent guys. And you know, the reason

993
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 4: why I think people talk about George so much is

994
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 4: because he is a real problem on the line of

995
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 4: scrimmage in the run game as well as getting into

996
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 4: the past game. And so that is a little bit

997
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 4: of a throwback to what tight ends quote unquote used

998
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 4: to be. You know, not just wide receiver guys that

999
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 4: you know that's fun to catch the ball and get

1000
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 4: all the accolades and everything else. But you know the

1001
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 4: best part about my room and the guys that are

1002
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 4: in it is that we like to get grimey, you

1003
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 4: know what I mean. We don't mind getting in there

1004
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: and blocking guys and being in past protection and stuff

1005
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: like that.

1006
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: That stuff gets us fired up. Now.

1007
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: We like catching balls too, Don't get me wrong, we

1008
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 4: like catching touchdowns. But you know, for these guys to

1009
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 4: embrace what we've presented to them has been really really

1010
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 4: fun to be around.

1011
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: Coach. Thanks a lot for the time, best of luck.

1012
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Jake Morland tight ends coach for your

1013
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. That's going to do it for the show

1014
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: tonight on Wednesday Night. It's Nick Casserio to kick off

1015
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: the program and a whole bunch of great stuff for

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00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: you on Texans Radio. Have a great night, Go Texans.