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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the hammid Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is episode three one three. My name is Brad Rowland,

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Speaker 1: coming to you on a Sunday evening here in late December.

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Speaker 1: It's the holidays in full force, and I'm joined as

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Speaker 1: I almost always am, b Scott Coleman Scott. It's a

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Speaker 1: I guess rare for us recently to have a quiet show,

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Speaker 1: but as we record this, it might be a quiet show.

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Speaker 2: How are you hello, Brad? I am doing well and

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Speaker 2: early Happy holidays, Merry Christmas to you and everybody out there.

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Speaker 2: And it's weird like they signed Hassan Kim basically a

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Speaker 2: week ago, and there hasn't been a whole lot of moves,

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Speaker 2: although there was one transaction that we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about for the Braves tonight. But the way this offsea

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Speaker 2: and it has gone so far, it's been tough to

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Speaker 2: go more than a few days without some kind of

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Speaker 2: Braves activity. And we'll see. Usually there's a flurry of

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Speaker 2: activity across Major League Baseball the couple of days before Christmas,

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Speaker 2: but then usually it quiets down from about Christmas Eve

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Speaker 2: until the day or two after New Year's Day. It's

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Speaker 2: not a guarantee, but it feels like we might see

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Speaker 2: some real activity across the rest of the league and

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Speaker 2: maybe the Braves will be a part of that in

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Speaker 2: the next seventy two hours or so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a trade in baseball right before we

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Speaker 1: started recording, and what didn't involve the Braves. But like,

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Speaker 1: there's some stuff that's going to happen in the next

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Speaker 1: couple of days, almost certainly, and we are a little

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Speaker 1: bit spoiled right now. I was looking at our database

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Speaker 1: of previous episodes and in the last twelve days, we

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Speaker 1: have done five shows, or actually six shows in the

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Speaker 1: last twelve days, and I believe three of them were

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Speaker 1: emergency podcasts. So we've had plenty to talk about. And

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Speaker 1: if you are new to the podcast number one, we

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Speaker 1: are Hammer Territory. We are part of the Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: network of podcasts. We cover the Braves all year round.

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Speaker 1: On this particular podcast, it is the two of us

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Speaker 1: Brad and Scott plus Steven Tolbert and Sean Coleman in

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Speaker 1: a regular rotation of the four of us. But if

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Speaker 1: you missed it, the most recent show on the feed

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Speaker 1: was Shawn and Stephen talking about kind of the state

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Speaker 1: of the Braves after that, aforementioned flurry of off seas

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Speaker 1: and activity that's been going on, and today we have

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Speaker 1: a couple of items to discuss. You already mentioned the transaction.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second, but first on

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Speaker 1: the agenda is basically, we got some questions about this

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Speaker 1: and we'll just mailbag later on some direct mailbag, but

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Speaker 1: like some remaining targets, like a lot of like, hey,

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Speaker 1: who do you guys want the Braves to sign now

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Speaker 1: or trade for now or whatever? We figured we might

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Speaker 1: go kind of area by area. I know the boys

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Speaker 1: talked about this on the most recent episode and you

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Speaker 1: and I tease this on our reaction to Hassan Kim

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Speaker 1: being signed. It felt like then the Braves might be

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Speaker 1: done with, like the main offensive lineup stuff might be

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Speaker 1: not definitely are, but that seems like we should just

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Speaker 1: say that out loud, like perhaps they could add I

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Speaker 1: know that was a speculation that Steven and Seawan did

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Speaker 1: bench kind of thing. Aside from that, Scott, like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying they shouldn't sign Kyle Tucker. That'd be cool

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Speaker 1: if they did, but uh, I think they might be

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Speaker 1: not sure what else they would do unless Alex just

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Speaker 2: I would say, when you look at the offensive side

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Speaker 2: which I think he is.

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Speaker 1: I think he's very likely to be on this I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I go to lock, but I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speed player can steal a base late

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Speaker 1: Rely on a whole lot.

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Speaker 2: My hunch is they're just going to kind of roll

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Speaker 2: not totally shock me if Marcello Zuna is sitting around

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can say, while the top of the

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Speaker 1: For sure. I mean we've said this before, but if

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Speaker 1: doesn't bother me at all. Besides something like that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Robert Refschneider kind of buzz between Diehard Braves fans. I

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Speaker 1: Look the headline, especially when you and I talk, I

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Speaker 1: They need to add somebody else I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: list some names that are still available on the market

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Speaker 1: Freber Valdez, Ragis Juarez, Zach Gallon, Tatsuya and my Chris Bassett,

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Speaker 1: We get a question from Fear of the Chop who says,

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Speaker 1: if the Braves sign is starting a pitcher, who do

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Speaker 2: To answer the question. If I had to bet on

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Speaker 2: if the Braves are going to sign a free agent

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Speaker 2: as most people are going to be listening to the show,

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Speaker 2: my guest would be Chris Bassett. I think he is

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Speaker 2: far more Alexanthopolis like than like a Franber Valdez or

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Speaker 2: probably not going to be someone who you lose your

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Speaker 2: mind over the Braves signing, but a very capable fourth

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Speaker 2: said it before, Well say one more time. I would

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Speaker 2: really like to see the Braves at a starting pitcher

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Speaker 2: and someone who moves the needle like. I don't need

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Speaker 2: necessarily worth it. But if you could get Chris Bassett

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my answer as well. We did not

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Speaker 1: He's just had some health issues. So the upside there

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but through Alex's premise, and he keeps

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Speaker 1: not chronicling every appearance Alex makes, but every time he

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Speaker 1: not saying, Tymy Malley is gonna be an awesome playoff starter,

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Speaker 1: but for me, that really means Alex is saying we

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Speaker 1: like again, want predicted different? Our predictions are Bassett and

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Speaker 2: Know, I think it's funny. I'll answer that in just

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Speaker 1: and that's why we're doing for agans first. But there's

430
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Speaker 1: still enough on the market on starting pitching in particular

431
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 1: where it's still interesting to talk about the guys that

432
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 1: are left, and we'll see where the Braves go. You

433
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: teesus already? Should we talk about the transaction that happened

434
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. The Braves signed Ian Hamilton

435
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 1: to a one year deal. It's non guarantee, but it

436
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 1: was a it's a major league non guarantee. Well could

437
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: be a split. The Braves announced it, so it wasn't

438
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 1: like they stuck this one under the under the wire.

439
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: They tweeted it out, they announced this move. And he's

440
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 1: a major league reliever, thirty year old right hander. It's

441
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,199
Speaker 1: been with the Yankees the last three years. Pretty good

442
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: numbers with the Yikes. Actually, but his worst year was

443
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 1: last year, which is why he's available. He had kind

444
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 1: of a rough year. It's twenty twenty five. I will

445
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 1: say this is three years ago now, but twenty twenty three,

446
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: he was like, actually awesome, Like under the hood, all

447
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: the numbers looked awesome. He's he's always thirty, so it's

448
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 1: not like he's thirty eight and he's maybe done. Maybe

449
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: he's done. We don't know. He's throwing slower down. But

450
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: I was this is one of those guys where it's

451
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 1: like not a joke, Like it's like, this guy could

452
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: be a part of the bullpen and I would not

453
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: be surprised at all. He seems like he's at least

454
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: a real bet and for very cheap. That total sense to.

455
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: Me, absolutely, And you know it's funny. Whenever a player

456
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: signs with the team, I tend to look at the

457
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 2: other fan basees reaction to it, which is not scientific,

458
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 2: but it helps were Yeah, there were quite a few

459
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 2: Yankees fans who when and Ian Hamilton signed with Atlanta,

460
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 2: they kind of were like, damn it. Of course the

461
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 2: Braves signed this guy. That's a really smart like by

462
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 2: low see if he can bounce back type of signing.

463
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 2: His fastball dipped quite a bit, that the velocity on

464
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 2: the fastball was down. That obviously impacted Hamilton, a pitch

465
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Speaker 2: that he really relied on a couple of years ago

466
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: when he was so efficient. But it's to me, this

467
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: kind of feels like Yuel piomps two point zero? Why

468
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: not man? And you got it? Basically, no guaranteed money

469
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 2: if you want, if he makes the team. I'm guessing

470
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 2: it's for a million million dollars, maybe two million dollars.

471
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 2: It's it's low risk and there is some legitimate upside here.

472
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: If Phillips can or Hamilton rather can can find what

473
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: made him successful with the Yankees a couple of years ago,

474
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,479
Speaker 2: then you've added somebody to your bullpen next for very

475
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: little money.

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those signings that we might just

477
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: forget about if it doesn't go well in the spring.

478
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: Might never talk about him again after that, or he

479
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: might be your sixth reliever in the bullpen and bring

480
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: some actual value. Like that's very much a two sides

481
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: of the coin there, but because of the cost of

482
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Speaker 1: literally nothing, a non guaranteed deal, it makes total sense.

483
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: And these are the kind of guys that Alex is

484
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: always going to sign. And then of course Brays Fancible

485
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: accused of being a bargain basement guy or was bargain

486
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: ben Alex is the one we we.

487
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Speaker 2: With dollar Tree.

488
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Speaker 1: Alex do Tree, Alex. It's a little bit harder to

489
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Speaker 1: do that now when he just spent a bazillion dollars

490
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: in like a week. But uh, that's still it's still

491
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: out there. But no, I like that move. Will it

492
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: be impactful? We will see on that. From all right, Scott.

493
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: In a second, we will answer some mail bad question.

494
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: We already answer one, but we will answer some more,

495
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: including some Christmas one. I'm pledging you right now it's

496
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: pre Christmas. We'll answer a couple of Christmas related mail

497
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: back questions. We'll getting all that more in just one okay, Scott, First,

498
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: before we get to the Christmas stuff. A question from

499
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: Nick seventeen atl who says very succinctly, Officeason grade so

500
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: far question mark a forward question. I will give you

501
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: the honors. What would you grade the Braves off season

502
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: as of Monday, December twenty second.

503
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: I would go with an AS and there is a

504
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 2: real chance to get it to an A or a

505
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 2: legitimate A plus, which I gotta be honest bread Two

506
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: months ago, I had no feel for where this offseason

507
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: was gonna go. Were they gonna be cheap again and

508
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: really avoid luxury tax or were they gonna go back

509
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: to payroll levels where they were previously? And after a

510
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: down year for the Braves, in all of our hearts,

511
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: it was like, damn it, I hope the Braves go

512
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: out and add some talent and change things up a

513
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: little bit. And sure, maybe they didn't go out and

514
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: sign Kyle Tucker for four hundred million dollars or didn't

515
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: go out and sign Dylan C's for two hundred and

516
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 2: ten million dollars over the next seven years, but they've

517
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: added a lot. They've raised the floor of this roster.

518
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: I think they've raised the upside of this roster as well.

519
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: I'm at an A minus. Where are you at?

520
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: We're in the same range I was debating between B

521
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: and B plus.

522
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: It's good.

523
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: I like what they've done. I know I wasn't on

524
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: a number of the reaction emergency shows, but they have

525
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: not done a move yet that I have like disliked.

526
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: There's varying degrees of excitement on this stuff, but even

527
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: the astrmpsky one, which is the one that they got

528
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: the most pushback, I like, I kind of like that deal.

529
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, the only reason why it's

530
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: not an A is that started pitching has not been

531
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: addressed if they had already done. Even if they do,

532
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: Chris Bassett, I will give it an A minus to

533
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: an A. My only reason why it's not higher is that.

534
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: And it's hard because I gave the date earlier, Like

535
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: we are big proponents of like you can't judge the

536
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: off season on December twenty second, Like it's it's silly

537
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: to do that, and I get it. People want to

538
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: rush to reactions. Think about it. Three weeks ago, Scott,

539
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: people were furious about the way things were going, and

540
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: the Brave has made three substantial additions in a six

541
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: day period, five day period, so like you never know

542
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: when's gonna happen and what it's gonna happen. So yeah,

543
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm closer to a minus than I am to be minus.

544
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: Like it's in that b people and the only reason

545
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: why it's not higher is because of starting pitching and

546
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: my valuing that considerably of like needing to do that

547
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: more than many some fans do. But nothing negative at all,

548
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: Like I think if you're grading it negatively, I don't

549
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 1: really know why you would. Maybe you're just trying to

550
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, be plus and a minus, I guess you're

551
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: almost the same. But I'm training to be I'll go

552
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: be plus. I think it's about where I am on this.

553
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: And if they do anything substantial with the rotation and

554
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: Chris Bassett, your maledgeby vary Tyler Mallley, who if they

555
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: add a starter that I think is a real starter,

556
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: I will go to a minus. A that's robby.

557
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, if you're trying to be a

558
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: critic of the moves, then sure you can have real

559
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 2: doubts about what does thirty five year old Mikesh Traumsky do,

560
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: Like can you just copy paste what he's done the

561
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: last couple of years?

562
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: That is that is the one to be like to

563
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: downpl I get why people downplay that. I really do,

564
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: like I think you needed a step, a step more

565
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: of nuance to like like that move. The price tag

566
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: was hired people expected, and then you look at it

567
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper, for example, and it's like, oh,

568
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: it's only nine million, and then ten million, and then

569
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: this very very cheap mutual you know, biot option thing.

570
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: So it's like even at first blunch it was like, oh,

571
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: that's a lot. Oh, it's actually cheaper than it when

572
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: we thought it was.

573
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: It's basically a two year, nineteen million dollar contract with

574
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: a cheaper third year and a buyout. I mean, I know,

575
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: the whole thing is you roll in the garanteed money

576
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: to the totally I get lost and I get it

577
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: me too. But if it was announced as two years

578
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: nineteen million, I almost wonder if the reaction would have

579
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: been a little bit lighter, then.

580
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: It probably would have been. And also, not to do

581
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: this again, but he fits the roster in that he

582
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: does one thing really well. He hits right handed pitching,

583
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: and like that's the strong side of a platoon. He's

584
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: a better defender than Jerkson Profar. Like there's reasons to

585
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: anyway we would have to do a whole thing again.

586
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: But that's the one move where I do think it's

587
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: totally fine and understandable to not be excited about that.

588
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: I totally get a Glacias and Suarez on good contracts,

589
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: like your bullpen went from a giant question mark to

590
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: a potential strength in two loops. Yeah, and then you

591
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: know it is what it is in the Hassan Kim, Yeah,

592
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't Boba Schet, but like it's a

593
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: one year deal. Hard to not like it. I like

594
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: the off season so far. The only it's just it's

595
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: more of an incomplete than a negative for me. It's

596
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: like still like it's done a lot, spent a lot

597
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: of money. Hard to be upset in fact on the

598
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: money question. Let's go to the next one. Are we

599
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: should have more to say on that which we could do?

600
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: But question from Benjamin packets related and I like the

601
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: way frame this for our purposes. Are you surprised with

602
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: the amount of money already committed to the twenty twenty

603
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: six payroll during this off season? Are you surprised? Not

604
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: that you like it? Are you surprised? Interesting way to

605
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: frame it?

606
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: A little bit. Now, in my true heart of hearts,

607
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: I really felt like the Braves wanted to reset the

608
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: luxury tax a year ago where they did reset the

609
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: luxury tax, but and then they just kind of wanted

610
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: to clean up their books and then would get closer

611
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: to payroll, where in twenty twenty four it was up there,

612
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: like it was much higher than it was in twenty

613
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: twenty five, with no real change in the overall standing

614
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: of the team. They were coming off a down year.

615
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Braves took note of what attendants looked

616
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: like in the final two months of the season. I'm

617
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: sure like the day of revenue was down significantly compared

618
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: to what they do and the team is good quite obviously,

619
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: so am I shocked that they have been so aggressive

620
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: Maybe not like really surprised, but it was a legitimate

621
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: question coming into it. And obviously I am thrilled that

622
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: they are spending more at the level the Atlanta Braves

623
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: should be spending.

624
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: Yet, yeah, I think when we talked about this last

625
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: time you and I talked, that was where we landed,

626
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, this is where they should be. Like, regardless,

627
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: there was a lot of frustration last winter, you know,

628
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: it's funny we are as a show I think accused

629
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: way more recently. It's funny. Back when you and I

630
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: were first starting, we were seen as the negative guys.

631
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: Remember that's got fun memories. It must be in the

632
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: negative guys.

633
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: Negative.

634
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: Now people think we're too positive, which is funny. Maybe

635
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: it because they're losing and we're you know whatever, but

636
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: we kind of we were critical of the off season

637
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: last winter from a spending perspective, and their nuance of

638
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: that with like, hey, that's not really an Alex Entthopolo's choice.

639
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: That's a Terry McGirk choice, which is why that's the

640
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: breakdown comes sometimes. But you're right they were. I think

641
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: they were what like their seventh in baseball and payroll

642
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, Like they were up there pretty high.

643
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: That season didn't go great and maybe the playoffs, and

644
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: then last year. I will go to my grave believing

645
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Speaker 1: that Alex had a meeting with someone above him between

646
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: his exit interview and his next comments that said, by

647
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: the way, you have less money thing we thought. I

648
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: will go to my grave on that and he'll he'll

649
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: never tell you. There's no reason for we're gonna tell

650
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: you don't Chris as your boss publicly that that's not

651
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: what happens. But I will go to my grave believing

652
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: that happened last winter. And the positive thing to bring

653
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: it full circle now is like that is not happening now.

654
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: They're spending now, how much they're gonna spend. I think

655
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: that third tier of CBT tax might be the red line.

656
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: I think, but hey, unless you're the Mets of the Dodgers,

657
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna be a red line for most teams.

658
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: Maybe the Blue Jays because they have a whole country

659
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: behind them. It's kind of an interesting things have a

660
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: whole region behind them.

661
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: But you know, did you see the Dodgers luxury tax penalty?

662
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. I mean, I get it, I get why.

663
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the Yankees used to be that way too.

664
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Speaker 1: The Yankees were as recently as a few years ago.

665
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: The Yankees, I think we're still number one in payroll

666
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: like two years ago, even more than the Dodgers. This

667
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: has been recent. The Dodgers are going through the stratosphere.

668
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, isn't it like one hundred something? I don't

669
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: know how much money is.

670
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: One hundred and seventy million dollars in penalties for going

671
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: over the tax just ridiculous. But we don't. We don't

672
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: need it. We don't need a salary cap, Brad. We

673
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: definitely don't need one, or a salary floor. We definitely don't.

674
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: Need or any or any it's or any kind of

675
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: sanction on deferrals, none of those things, even if your

676
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: anti salary cap, which I get, maybe some notes, maybe

677
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: some notes on the on the on the new cbabot

678
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: the way you can defer contracts so that show hey

679
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: can't have five hundred million defer or whatever it is. Yeah,

680
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: So am I surprised To answer the question, I'm really not.

681
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: I kind of thought they were going to spend more.

682
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: It's more that I wasn't sure they were going to

683
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: spend more, and now now we've seen it, so I

684
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: feel better about it. I'm not shocked or anything. Maybe

685
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: a slight pleasant surprise, but not overall. If they go over,

686
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: if they go above the third tier, like for instance,

687
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: if they if they signed fraanbra Valdez to a giant contract,

688
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: I will be surprised at that point. Not I won't

689
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: be shocked anymore, but surprised in a good way. If

690
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: they spend even more than I think they're gonna spend.

691
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: But to date, I mean, uh, it's also been very

692
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: alex coded the way they have spent. They have spent

693
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: the money, but without any like big long term money

694
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: and years.

695
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: But they have eighty million dollars roughly coming off the

696
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: books in a calendar year, Brad, I mean they it's

697
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: it's easier said than done to go year by year

698
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: with your payroll. But I mean eighty million dollars. And

699
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: of course you're losing Chrysale, you're losing well at the

700
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: moment you're losing Chrysale, you're losing rayceell Iglacias again, like

701
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: they can. These things have a way of working themselves out.

702
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: But I mean, as we sit here today, they have

703
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: about eighty some odd million dollars coming off the books

704
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: for next season.

705
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: They should go ahead and announce the Chrysale extension asap.

706
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: Go ahead and do that. I'd be fine with that.

707
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: Do do the Charlie importon style Chris at another year

708
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: of twenty eight million and for Chris Sale, that's fine,

709
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: go ahead and do that right now. Let's sign me up.

710
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they have to do that. For the record,

711
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm being kind of funny, but I would not mind

712
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: that blue box at some point soon to just say, hey,

713
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: here's one more year, Chris, We'll go to year to year.

714
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: As long as you want to pitch, please stick around.

715
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: I'd be fine with that, Okay, Scott, I think we

716
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: could probably move to the Christmas portion of the podcast

717
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: in an effort to not go super long, so we

718
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: will divide the line here everybody. If you don't want

719
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: to hear our takes briefly on some Christmas things, you

720
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: can sign off the podcast. We don't want you to,

721
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: but I don't want to brave. There's a Brase related question.

722
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: There is one, but it's not going to be about

723
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five, twenty sixteen. Okay. The first one

724
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: is literally this is a question directly to you, because

725
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: I have no opinion on this. It's from Ray Addis,

726
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: who says the question we all want answered is what

727
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: is the best Christmas episode of the Office? And why

728
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: I say that? If you don't know, Scott is an

729
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: Office super fan, which is why he's I see in

730
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: the Office, The Office is funny. I'm not an Office

731
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: super fan, So this is all you, my friend.

732
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: Yes, It's actually a little tradition now that we watch

733
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: the Christmas episodes, because I think there's seven of them

734
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 2: on either Christmas Eve or right before Christmas. Best Office

735
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: Christmas episode. There are some good ones. I would go

736
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: with Benny Hannah Christmas Underrated though, would be Classy Christmas

737
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: where Jim and DWIGHTE have a snowball fight. That's where

738
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: we will end the office talk, because if you've never

739
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: seen the show, you probably have no idea what I'm

740
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: talking about. But the Beni Hannah Christmas episode is not

741
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: just like the best Christmas episode. It's one of like

742
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: the top maybe fifteen episodes in the show. And I

743
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: will say Brad, as somebody who has recently watched Seinfeld

744
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: for the first time, I am now familiar with Festivus.

745
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have for the rest of us.

746
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to work Festivus into our Christmas Eve

747
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: viewing this year. Great episode, one of my favorites of

748
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 2: the whole series. So I am familiar. I had heard

749
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: of Festivus and like, what the hell does that mean?

750
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: I do know the origins now, and I am I

751
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: am educated in Seinfeld.

752
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: I think me being a little bit older than you

753
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: is explains the gap here. Like I was watching Seinfeld

754
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: when it was on, like I was young, but I

755
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 1: was like staying up to like watch Steinfeld and thought

756
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: it was funny. It's very funny. Again, I see there's

757
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: like one hundred I looked this up. There's one hundred

758
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: and nine Office episodes. I bet I've seen fifty of

759
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: them at least I've seen a bunch of Office, just not

760
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: the whole series. So you're the authority. Please if you

761
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: want to comment and yell your own thoughts, that's got

762
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: that's this is the time of do it, I promise

763
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: you all right. Last one, this is the Braves related

764
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: question from I believe it's Braves Uga fan. That could

765
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: be anybody. There are a lot of bridge Uga fans,

766
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: but that was the handle of the person's sad. This

767
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: question to us, Hey guys, with the holidays here, what

768
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: was your favorite Braves themed gift that you ever got?

769
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: So interesting? I'm bad at remembering guests, but I have

770
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: a good answer for this, I think. So you go ahead. First,

771
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to defer to you and I'll prey up

772
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 1: the rear.

773
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: You know, I am not a local, but I have

774
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: a great answer. So my now wife, but back then

775
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: girlfriend actually bought me a brick outside of Truist Park

776
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: has my name on it. I think it says go

777
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: Braves Scott Coleman, and I have a replica of that

778
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: brick and a stand at my house. It's just to

779
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 2: my left. Actually, we had been dating maybe like six

780
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: months at this point, so that's a pretty cool gift.

781
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: You know.

782
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: It's still there when I was in Atlanta last like, and.

783
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: That's why you married her? That's what right then is

784
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: what do you decide to marry or is that right?

785
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: I did, Yes. The next day I went to the

786
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: jewelry store and bought her a ring and said, you

787
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: bought me a brick, will you marry me right now?

788
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: But it's cool, So I don't know, maybe if you're

789
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: ever walking around Truist Park and you're just gonna say,

790
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: should we have a pilgrimage to the Scott Coleman brick.

791
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: I do have a photo with it. It's on the

792
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: first base side of the of the stadium, outside the

793
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: stadium obviously, but I did find it the last time

794
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: I was in Atlanta, like five years ago. It took

795
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: a little while there's a lot of bricks out there names,

796
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 2: but I do have a brick, which was a great gift.

797
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: I was.

798
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell because it's heavy. I

799
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: was like, what on earth did you buy me? You know,

800
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: we will have been dating like six months. It's not

801
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: like we've been together forever. Now she knew, she knew.

802
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: There you go, well what about you?

803
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: No, I it's funny. I I saw Steven our co

804
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: host Stephen at a game at a game in person

805
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: this year, and if I had known, we would have

806
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: gone and found the brick that had been our activity,

807
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: taken a picture of it, uh, for the for the

808
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: world to see minus less minus less relational than that,

809
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: but kind of also relational. So I people may remember

810
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: this because you've breaking up all the time. I am

811
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: a park Few High School alum in Lowbern, Georgia, and

812
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: the Brains have had two very famous park View alums

813
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: on their team.

814
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

815
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: The most recent one is Matt Olson, who's very good.

816
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm a lot older than med Eilson, so I did

817
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: not know Matt growing up.

818
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: I did.

819
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: I didn't do know Jeff Francore so Jeff was two

820
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: years ahead of me in school, but we played basketball.

821
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: And I've known Jeff for a long time. I know

822
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: his wife, I know his mother was a teacher of

823
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: mine in school. Just keep out in minds, that's the

824
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: level of seventh grade math teacher Jeffrank KORZMM. So anyway,

825
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: this is before I was covering the team. I was

826
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: a fan of the team. But in two thousand and five,

827
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: so I'm old. I was nineteen Christmas two thousand and five.

828
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: My parents, who don't get me a lot of gifts.

829
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that in a negative way. We're not

830
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: a big gift family. Just wasn't what we did A

831
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: lot of they got that. If you don't remember, if

832
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: you're not old, don't remember this. Jeffrank courts within five

833
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: was the thing. Oh yes, he came That was the

834
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: year he came up and was incredible. SI cover all the.

835
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeff the Natural, The Natural, Cover of Sports Illustrated. I

836
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: mean Jeff Frank Coremania. If you're not old enough to remember,

837
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: it was the summer of Jeff Frank core I think

838
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: he homered in his debut, or like a couple of

839
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: games into his debut. I mean it was. It was

840
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: scenes in Atlanta, the Baby Braves it was scenes.

841
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: In Atlanta, and obviously since you now know of it,

842
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: like I literally know Jeff went to my high school,

843
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: it was even bigger deal. For people like me. It

844
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: was like, I know, this guy is going crazy with

845
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: the Braves. I'm I'm in college at the time, and

846
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: my parents got me a like nice like the one

847
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: of the nice, like authentic whatever whatever. It was. Then

848
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: the stitched Frankore jerseys for Christmas that year, and like

849
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: that's all I got. That was it for me for

850
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: like maybe for years. I might have been my last

851
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: gift of my parents, but I got one of those,

852
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: and uh, that was very cool. I still have it.

853
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't wear it anymore because he doesn't play anymore,

854
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: but I have it in mind's in my closet, which

855
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: you can't see. I have. I literally have two. I've

856
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: had two nice Brave jerseys in my life. That one

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Speaker 1: and a Freddie Freeman one, which I also know Freddy

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00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: and his family, and so there's all these connections and things.

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00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: So the next time I get one up, probably Matt Olsen,

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00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: because like I don't know Matt, but I mean we

861
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: went to the same school. I love Ronnie. If anyone

862
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: wants to buy me a jersey. Feel free. I still

863
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: buy me a jersey everybody. It's fine I should wear,

864
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: you know when I go to games. Now I'm like

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00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: working sometimes and it's not quite the same thing. But

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Speaker 1: that was a cool one. I will cherish that one.

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00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: And knowing Jeff, I wish it had got better for

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00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: Jeff after that, but at the time, uh, trade value

869
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: through the roof and all those things, it didn't didn't

870
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: work out very well.

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00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: But you know, it's funny. And then we'll we will

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00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: conclude the Jeff frank Core segment of this podcast. But

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00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: why I wonder twenty if Jeff frank Core debuted twenty

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00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: years later, would he have been a player who, like

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00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 2: every week on the show, we would have been like, yeah,

876
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: Jeff had another big week. But dear god, they're.

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00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: Oh yes, screaming one.

878
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: No.

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00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I it probably existed then, yeah, but that

880
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: was early. It was still earlier. I mean, there was

881
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: blocks happening and stuff, but it wasn't like the full

882
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, Fangrafts era at that point in time. It

883
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: would have been like we talk about Michael Harris now

884
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: on steroids with with Jeff, like every flashing sign he

885
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: swung at everything. Everyone would have known it was going

886
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: to cool off. But back then, twenty years ago, like

887
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: maybe the Sickos, maybe maybe through it's saber at that

888
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: point in time, they were probably they were probab flashing

889
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: the light on Jefferent Corps, but not in the mainstream.

890
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was like, this guy's this guy knows

891
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: is gonna be the greatest player of all time. He

892
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: might be like the next Hank Aaron And that didn't

893
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: have but cool gift, Mom and Dad shouts to you guys. Uh,

894
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: not as cool as the brick though, So Scott's wife

895
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: wins this one by a lot. Tell her I said that, Scott,

896
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: and I promise next time I go, you gotta remind

897
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: me next time I go over to Truist, I gotta

898
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: try to find the brick because that'll be fun. Yeah.

899
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: I think I have a little card on like the

900
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: bottom of the stand that holds the brick that shows

901
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: like roughly where it is. Yeah, so I'll find that.

902
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: I'll send it to you. You and you and Steven

903
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 2: can take a nice photo in front of it and

904
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: do a maybe go live from outside of my brick

905
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: at Truest Part That's what I'll do.

906
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: I will go live on Hamard's servitory YouTube when I

907
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: find the brick and just be like, all right, everybody

908
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: found the brick, and then just clear we can just

909
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: just end it, all right, Well, thank you Scott for

910
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: that story. That's all we have on today's podcast. Look

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00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: you we teased it. We started here when here. The

912
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: bridge can still do some stuff in the next cup days.

913
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: There is not a hard moratorium. Most gms that are

914
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: not like aj Preller or like Jerry Depoto tend to

915
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: take a break for a few days around Christmas. But

916
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: Alex isn't afraid to make a move, so we'll have

917
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: content if things happen. Please subscribe to the show. But

918
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: if anything happens, I promise we'll break in. We might

919
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: be in somebody's kitchen for Christmas or something like that,

920
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: but we'll have a show at some point. Some combination

921
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: of the formless will react to it. In the meantime, Scott,

922
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: if we have new listeners, where can they find all

923
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: of your musings on social media, including what I can

924
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: only assume will be a live meltdown on Monday Night

925
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: during Colts forty nine.

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00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: Ers football is officially dead to me, Brad, it's been

927
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 2: a bad It was.

928
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: Going so well for about for about two months in

929
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: Scott's life, and then it didn't anymore.

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00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 2: That's right. Sorry. I am at Scott Coleman fifty five

931
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Speaker 2: on Twitter slash x. As always, a big thank you

932
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 2: to people for checking out the show, and we will

933
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 2: have some kind of content between now and the new year.

934
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: As Brad said, if there's any transaction, of course we'll

935
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: do a show, but we'll have something on the feed

936
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: just to kind of hold everybody over, and then hopefully

937
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: in January we just get right back up and going

938
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: and and wrap things up and then before you know it.

939
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: I think spring training is early this year, I think

940
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: because of the WBE. I think report dates for some

941
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: teams start like February tenth or something like that, so

942
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: it's going to be here before we know it. Hopefully

943
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: a much better season on the horizon for the Atlanta.

944
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: Braves, no question about that. Ways compared to last year,

945
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: I think that we could be safe in projecting that.

946
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: Maybe no guarantees, but it'd be better than a year ago.

947
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,920
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