1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Don't know. Every day up waiting, click your ass up 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: the breakfast club. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 2: You don't finish for y'all dumb morning. Everybody's DJ Envy 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club. 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: Lown La Rosa is here as well. We got a 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: special guest in the building, a guy. He's locking up 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: all you rappers. 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: I'm just god, ladies and gentlemen. 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: Flat TV DJ's lady. 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Glad to be back, Glad to be back up and 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: doing this for like a decade. 12 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: Now longer than that, longer than that, we go back. 13 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 4: Good to see you, man, Thank you. 14 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 5: It is funny, though, because the allegations of Ladd being 15 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 5: a fed seem to increase every single time somebody gets 16 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 5: locked up from the hip hop community. 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Just is what it is. 18 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 6: Man, Why why don't you even like address it at 19 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 6: this point? Like when people get like them, you come 20 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 6: out with still like have the conversation or entertain the conversation. 21 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, why not? Why not? Because it's not true. 22 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: It's not true. When you talk to the actual rappers 23 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: who have gotten arrested, they'll say in interviews, I've had 24 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. Uh, this interview had nothing 25 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: to do with my case. You can go through the 26 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: transcripts every so often it's like a fake story. Like 27 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: I remember at one point, like there's this fake story 28 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: that circulating a bunch of celebrities like Questlove or retweeting. 29 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: It was like judge thanks dj vladd for helping the convict. 30 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 1: The judge had nothing to do with the real judge 31 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: and so forth, And it was from a like a 32 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: website no one's ever heard of, wasn't a real website, 33 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: but people retweeting and so forth. It's like, you just 34 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: gotta gotta deal with it. It is what it is. 35 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: But you know, like when I came into the game, 36 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: like I wanted to ask the tough questions. I wanted 37 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: to be the sixteen minutes of hip hop. I always 38 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: felt like at that time that hip hop media was 39 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: really softball and they wouldn't ask the real tough questions. 40 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: I came in like, yo, I'm going to change you know, 41 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to change this and I'm going to be different. 42 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: And that's what I stuck on this whole time. 43 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 5: I also don't understand if somebody sits down with you, 44 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna say, And agrees to sit 45 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 5: down with Blad TV in front of a camera and 46 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 5: answer questions why is it your fault? 47 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: They can say no comment, they can say I'm not 48 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: answering that, they can say it's a case going, they can. 49 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: Say so many different things. 50 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm I'm also very very careful with people, 51 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: like I've turned down interviews when they're open cases. 52 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 7: Really, yeah, I'm surprised that. 53 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, for example, like Draco the Ruler, when he 54 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: was facing his murder case, his manager was like, Yo, 55 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: he wants to do an interview. He wants to tell 56 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: a side, And I'm like, you got an open murder 57 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: case right now, and you know, once you beat it, 58 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: like you can come and we'll talk about it, which 59 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: is exactly what we did. Once he beat it, we 60 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: did a whole interview. Same thing with tax Told when 61 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: he was going through his case. He wanted to do 62 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: an interview and I'm like, Yo, you're my friend and 63 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't want this interview to be used against you 64 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: in this case, so I just have to turn you down. 65 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately he ended up losing anyways, but I 66 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: didn't want to contribute to that. And I'm like, even 67 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: if you hate me after this, like I just don't 68 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: want to do this. 69 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: Very very trankful. 70 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 8: But also you also worked in music as well too, right, 71 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 8: like before all it is I was a DJ DJ. 72 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, turntables in years now, but. 73 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: The mixtape that's true, Like I won Mixtape of the Year, 74 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: I won mashup of the Year, like I have one, 75 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, Justo's mixtape awards when it was sure part 76 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: of as well. You know, you won your awards, but 77 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: I'll part of that. I felt like I was like 78 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: one of the top guys during that era. But then 79 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: when flat TV came around, I had to shift and 80 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: kind of focus on a long term career because being 81 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: a mixtape DJ and being in DJ in general is 82 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: just a tough job, as you know. As you know, 83 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: and I felt like as I was getting older, I 84 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: got to like think ahead ten twenty years, this is 85 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: what I'm going to do in my life. 86 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: I want to ask, what you know, with the whole 87 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: Big U Rolling sixties, they threw your name in it 88 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: a thousand a little bit. 89 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 6: They blamed you, they said, because of their interviews on 90 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 6: your channel. Is the reason why the whole indictment of 91 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 6: all the things happened. 92 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: I've never heard that. I did one interview with Big U, 93 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: like three four years ago, which I don't think has 94 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: anything to do with that case. Me and Big you, 95 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, maintain a relationship and a friendship. We talked 96 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: a couple times a year. I was really shocked and 97 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: hurt when I heard of that happened. I've never heard 98 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: of my name connected to anything. 99 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: Who said where that came from? 100 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's headlines all over. Actually you commented back on 101 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 6: some of them. You defended it. You did it sit 102 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 6: down with TMZ DJ last speaks on Big U or rest. 103 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 6: Interviews don't indict, but crimes do. So I mean, I think. 104 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: They asked me about it in general, but not because 105 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: I was connected to it anyway. Look through the whole paperwork. 106 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: My name is on the paperwork at all. No, at all. 107 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 6: I don't think it's like because even when you're because 108 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 6: I know because working at TMZ, when TMZ used to 109 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 6: come up in documents, it just comes up because they 110 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 6: go find whatever they can. I don't think people think 111 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 6: you're act well, no, that's not true. I was gonna say. 112 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 6: I don't think people think you're actually working with the 113 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 6: fans like you're like an informant. 114 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 7: But people some people do believe that, But. 115 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 6: I think it's more of like people feel like your 116 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 6: interviews get people to talk about things that are then 117 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 6: either directly used in paperwork or even if not directly, 118 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 6: they stem to things that who's. 119 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 5: Fault is that that's not I don't okay, that's not 120 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 5: his fault. 121 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 4: The questions. 122 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 5: If I as an interviewer, if I ask you a 123 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 5: question about something, you can say, no comment. 124 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: You don't have to answer it. 125 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 4: But if you answer it and then it's used later, 126 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 4: that ain't my fault. 127 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: People don't really realize. Also, like the majority of the 128 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: time of the interview people, especially when they do like 129 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: kind of the true crime type stuff, these people have 130 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: already done the time for that crime, you know, So 131 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: I've speaking you know, I've spoken to people that have 132 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: committed murders, done serious crimes, like you know, Terrence Kanster, 133 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: Williams burn Man's brother did forty murders that he admitted to. 134 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: But these are all things that they've already cooperated with, 135 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: they've already done their time with, and they have the 136 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: right to speak on that. They've given up big chunks 137 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: of their lives for the ability to speak on that. 138 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: You know, I've never talked to people about open cases 139 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: on or off camera. You could talk to anybody like 140 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: off camera, like, I don't know what you're doing in 141 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: your private life. I don't know if you want to 142 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: leave lad TV and go rob a bank and they say, oh, 143 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: lad TV, you got him arrested. I didn't go rob 144 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: that bank. So so a lot of people. I mean, look, 145 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: hip hop is very street oriented. You know, people that 146 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: are doing you know, they're rapping and they're producing whatever else, 147 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: they're also doing stuff on the side. At the Castanova 148 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: two time situation, I did one interview with him when 149 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: he first started out, and then he got caught up 150 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: for some other stuff way later on. I hadn't interviewed 151 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: him in years and years, but somehow people said, oh, 152 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: the lad TV interview got him locked up. But no, 153 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: there's DMS, the messages, there was a whole case. There 154 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: are snitches, there were so forth. We had nothing to 155 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: do with it. He himself will say that I had 156 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it, but people would like to 157 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: connect it like, oh, he asked this question, so obviously 158 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: that's the reason. But it just comes to the territory. 159 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: How many times have the Feds came to you for audio? 160 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: Maybe they felt that there was an interview that you 161 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: only played a little bit part, or they were looking 162 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: for extras. How many time have they reached out to you? 163 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: One time was that no, well, no, sorry, you're right. 164 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: Two times two times. One time was with Jimmy Henchman. Yeah, 165 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: we did an interview with him. He mentioned a few 166 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: things about his case and he was in the process 167 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: of getting an appeal, well, getting like a retrial, I guess. 168 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: So the next day he called me and said, hey, listen, 169 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: my lawyer listen to this, and he said that this 170 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: might hurt my case. Can you take it down? I said, 171 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: no problem. Six months later, the Justice Department called me 172 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: up and they're like, we want this footage because they 173 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: wanted the original. First, they had a copy of it 174 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: because you know, people had reposted or whatever else, but 175 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: they wanted the original footage. And I said, I'm not geting 176 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: to you the like, well, we'll put you on the stand. 177 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: I said, well, you have to speak to my lawyer 178 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: at that point. So I spent like ten thousand dollars 179 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: in lawyer fees and we actually blocked them from which 180 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: obtaining the footage, and he went. You know, he had 181 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: a retrial and he lost anyways, but I didn't want 182 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: to contribute to that, Like, if you're going to come 183 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: an interview on my show, I'm not going to then 184 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: cooperate with the police to get you locked up. I 185 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: would do my best to protect you, even if I 186 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: have to spend thousands of dollars. The other case was 187 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: the KPD case. Las Vegas. PD reached out to me 188 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: like a dozen times and kept leaving messages for the 189 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: raw footage, and I always just ignored him. 190 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: So I didn't know that. 191 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: I thought, usually they will fight you too for nail 192 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: to get that footage, and they was subpoena you and 193 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: all that. 194 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: But they tried for the For the Jimmy Henschman case, 195 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: they actually took it to whoever. I think Jeff Sessions 196 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: was in charge in that time and he won't sign 197 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: off on it. But it was a very interesting case. 198 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: I think it would have set legal precedent because we 199 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: put it up and then we took it down and 200 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: they're like, well we still want it. I'm like, well, 201 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: freedom of the press, I could protect my my footage, 202 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: but you already put it up. I'm it doesn't matter. 203 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: I took it down. So if they were able to 204 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: actually successfully subpoena it, that wast a you know, kind 205 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: of a precedent for future people that took stuff down. 206 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: You can go back into history and so forth. But ultimately, 207 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: I will do my best to protect you. I will 208 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: do my very very best. 209 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 9: Man. 210 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 5: I think that's because if they want the if the 211 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: Feds want the evidence and you're saying that, then they 212 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 5: might can say you're wor it's not. But it's something 213 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 5: about blocking people from evidence. 214 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: It's a conspirator. I'm not saying I don't have it. 215 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm not. But but they have to go 216 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: through a legal process. I got a criminal lawyer that 217 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: went back and forth with the Feds and so forth, 218 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: and ultimately they weren't successful. They threatened to put me 219 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: on the stand. I said, go ahead and put me 220 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: on the stand if that's what you got to do. Like, 221 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm not a criminal. If that's the worst thing you 222 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: know you could do to me, I'll take the stand 223 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: and I'll be a hostile witness. You know, that's what 224 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: ultimately happened. 225 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 5: You know, if you was to put those interviews up 226 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 5: and say they were true crime and ship. 227 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: Would blow up. 228 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 5: The fact that they're kind of like labeled hip hop 229 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 5: is what keeps them seriously because true crime is like 230 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 5: the biggest genre. 231 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, podcasting, if you were to put those interviews up 232 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 4: as true crime, need to be out of it. 233 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we're talking to a bunch of networks 234 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: right now. We've had like network meetings for the last 235 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: few weeks about having a blad TV true crime series. 236 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: You know, no one's actually signed the contracts yet, but 237 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully something like that will happen. But yeah, 238 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: I've been doing true crime really for seventeen years of 239 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: the time. 240 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, not labeling it. 241 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 5: If you was labeling I mean, don't get me wrong, 242 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 5: Black TV does great, But if he was labeling a 243 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 5: true crime and you still can't, I. 244 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: Mean I still do. Yeah, I mean in my own way. Yeah, 245 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean, like the KYPD interview. But we've also done 246 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: a lot of really big interviews Michael Fraanzis I'm seeing 247 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: the bulls or regular guests on my show, and we 248 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: went to his whole story, a lot of Mexican mafia, 249 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, in Western familiar interviews and so forth. MS thirteen, 250 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: I mean all around, and like a lot of these guys, 251 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: they now come to me to do their first interviews. 252 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: And that's kind of the cool part, you know, like 253 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: people like trust me to tell their story as they 254 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: feel that I will accurately tell it and tell the 255 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: whole story as opposed to just focus on a couple 256 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: like things. 257 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: You get nervous with that though, because you're talking about 258 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: some real people, not rappers. You're talking about some real 259 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: people that are have you swimming with the fishes. 260 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I have armed security usually, you know, 261 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: most times during these interviews, and I mean these people 262 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: are coming to me to tell their story. They know 263 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: that I don't mean them any harm. They know that 264 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm actually benefiting them. And a lot of people like 265 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, like for example, like Terrence Gangster Williams, like 266 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: he came out of prison and he wanted to do 267 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: his first interview with me. Now he has a full 268 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: blown YouTube career. You know, he makes six digits where 269 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: he actually supports himself without having to work a job 270 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: because he's still on probation, so he has to keep 271 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: as certain type of job. You know. I remember one 272 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: of the really success stories was that Gangster had an 273 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: arch enemy named Little Diesel that someone asked me to 274 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: bring up the name during this one interview and he's like, yeah, 275 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, me and him were like at war, people 276 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: are getting killed, stabbed and so forth, and last time 277 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: we saw each other, we pulled out knives. A Little 278 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: Diesel reached out to me and said, hey, I want 279 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: to do an interview. I said, do you want to 280 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: do one with Terrence? He goes yeah. So I flew 281 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: them both into New York and YPD in the building. 282 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: I explained to them, like listen, if y'all end up 283 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: stabbing each other, you're gonna get arrested. I can't do anything. 284 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: Everyone got, you know, y'all got to raise her in 285 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: your mouth or something. So everyone got frists whatever else. 286 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: They did an interview, and then after the interview they 287 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: became friends, and Diesel actually moved in with Gangster and 288 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: he lives with Gangster and Gangster's mom, and now they're 289 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: best friends. They went from arch enemies that weren't that 290 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: they're trying to kill each other, like like Gangster has 291 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: this whole scar down the stomach from a fight from 292 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: a gang fight. They got into and now they live 293 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: together their roommates. Like, how crazy? 294 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: Is that different? 295 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: Because because of the interview, because I put them in 296 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: the same room and I got them back together. 297 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 8: The sitcom there somewhere, Glad, Do you have like favorite 298 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 8: people in an interview? Because I see Boosy up there 299 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 8: airy spirits all the time. 300 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 10: Are you like friends with them? Do they call you? 301 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 10: Are you calling them? 302 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: Like? 303 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 10: Yo, come up here and talk about this? 304 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean me and Bousy, Uh, you know, we've 305 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: had a relationship forever. I'm actually flying out there in 306 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks to do another feature on him 307 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: in his home. 308 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 4: Uh. 309 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: Me and BUSSI is a little bit more business, you know, 310 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: Me and aries. You know, we chop it up. I mean, 311 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: uh but really, all my regular guests kind of become 312 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: friends to a certain degree over time, uh, you know, 313 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: because I realized early on I can't keep getting new 314 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: people every single day, every single week. So I had 315 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: to start, you know, working with repeat guests, and you know, 316 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: they worked out. There's certain people that really just kind 317 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: of blown up, Like Lord Jamar, he's back on Black 318 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Team again. I'm doing him later today and and you pay, Yeah, 319 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: And I paid people. Yeah, all my regular guests get paid. 320 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 5: How did the Lord Jamar situation get recordicized and we 321 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 5: never even talked about that often? 322 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean it happened over the Farakon situation. 323 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: So what happened? 324 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: You break down white speak. 325 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: So so I misquoted Farakhon, and I remember me and 326 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: you were talking during that time. There was a video 327 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: that was circulating that that had FAA cons saying certain 328 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: things about Jewish people, but the video was cut at 329 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: a certain time where he kind of explained himself later on, 330 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: and then he wasn't really saying what inferred from that 331 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: particular clip. So at the time, you know, I put 332 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: out kind of a statement, but I didn't really put 333 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: out an apology, and a bunch of people got pissed 334 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: off at me, you know, like you know, Jamar was 335 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: one of them. So we just stopped talking for about 336 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: five years. And then my whole thing was like I 337 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: was planning on doing an apology and so forth. So 338 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: me and Willie d have been close friends for a 339 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: long time and he's a big, big paracon support, been 340 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: on stage with him, long conversation with him, so forth. 341 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: So I said, listen, when I do the apology. I'm 342 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: going to come to Houston. I'm going to do it 343 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: with you. So that's exactly what I did. I flew 344 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: to Houston. We sat down. I knew it wasn't going 345 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: to be a softball interview because he really went hard 346 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: for Faara Cohon. But he was also my friend and 347 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: he respected me. He never spoke about me publicly and 348 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: so forth. So we did the interview and it came out, 349 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: and then you know, it kind of a lot of 350 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: good Like you know, people like Killer Mike called me 351 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: to thank me, and you know, and so forth. And 352 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: Jamar just called me up one day and was like, 353 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: hey man, like he had mentioned because he did this 354 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: interview with his pit bull, he had like a baby 355 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: pit bull in this one interview, and then he had 356 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: said how his pit bull recently died, and he started 357 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: to start thinking about kind of like the cycle of 358 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: life and our relationship and so forth. We got on 359 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: the phone and we chopped it up. We had a 360 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: long conversation. Then we had another follow up conversation onic 361 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: why'd you come back and do the show? He's like, yo, 362 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: let's do it, and we did it. Now we were 363 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: rocking back again. 364 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 5: It makes me wonder, you know, did Jamar just feel 365 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 5: Lloyd Jamal feel like he just had to be like 366 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 5: that with you because of public pressure. 367 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, somewhat. I mean there's a lot of that. There's 368 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: a lot of backlash. And it was like my first 369 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: like cancel moment. You know, we've all gone through like 370 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, you two, you know what I mean for 371 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: a fact, I've gone through it. And the first time 372 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: you go through it, you're like, damn, like the whole 373 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: world is turning against me, you know. But then you 374 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: start to see who your real friends are, you know, 375 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: because certain people like you, you know, like we've always 376 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: had a close relationship, You've never spoken against me, you know, 377 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: people like Willie, people like like Trey d and so forth, 378 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: they may feel a certain type of way, but you know, 379 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: people like John Sally, people like Michael Jay White, Like, 380 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: you got to see who you know, your real friends are, 381 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: who really were there for you. So it was kind 382 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: of a bad experience and had a good experience at 383 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: the same time. 384 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: You had a very controversial stance when it came to 385 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: Ditty right. People were mad at you with your stance with. 386 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: That mean which part, the Cassie part Okay, yeah, yeah, 387 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: so so. 388 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Breaking up a man. 389 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 5: If a man wants to rub another man's not on 390 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: his nipples, he should be allowed to do that. 391 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: I never said exactly, he never said that. 392 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 6: You said Cassie is guilty of the same prostitution charges 393 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 6: Diddy was just convicted of. I interviewed three of them, 394 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 6: male escorts. All three of them said the same thing. 395 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 6: Cassie picked them, contacted them for free cross and enjoyed 396 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 6: the experiences. Meanwhile, she's sitting on thirty million dollars and 397 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 6: writing letters to the judge asking him to not be 398 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 6: giving bail twenty million book. 399 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel, yeah, if Diddy's need no brown, 400 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 4: she's g money. 401 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. But I've interviewed the actual escorts. I 402 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: have two more escorts that are coming in today, interview tomorrow, Friday, Friday. 403 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: Two more escorts are coming in, and every story is 404 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: exactly the same. Cassie was with it. She would pick 405 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: them out, she would actually engaged with him. She was happy. 406 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: There was no type of like, you know, being forced 407 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: to do it now. One of them did say, you know, 408 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: the who I'm interviewing on Friday did say that he 409 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: saw Diddy abuse her, you know, And what I think 410 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: is this is ultimately a domestic violence case that has 411 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: ballooned into rico and sex trafficking and so for. But 412 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: really what it's about is domestic violence, which is if 413 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Diddy was charged today, he would be absolutely guilty. He's 414 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: definitely a monster for doing that. But domestic violence is 415 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: not this case. It's rico, it's a criminal enterprise. It's 416 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: sex trafficking, which you know if you look. I did 417 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: an interview with Shirley jew because I was at the 418 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Hollywood and locked wards and I was on the red carpet, 419 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: and she asked me, what do you think will happen? 420 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: This is a couple days before the vert. I said 421 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: exactly what the verdict was going to be. So he's 422 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: going to beat the rico, he's going to beat the 423 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: sex trafficking. He'll probably catch a prostitution charge and probably 424 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: get a slap on the wrist, and we'll see what happens. 425 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: But isn't it crazy that usually in a prostitution charge, right, 426 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: the prostitutes and the pimp get gets more the charges. 427 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: But in this case they all got immunity. 428 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: Oh they didn't get immunity. Well, no, it's not Cassie. 429 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah got immunity community, we got immunity. 430 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 6: Services didn't get it's a big guy in the rico though, right, 431 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 6: like we're if we're talking about because how they tried 432 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 6: to set it up with the rico. 433 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 7: It didn't work. You're the big guy. 434 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 6: That's what you offer to everyone else to because you 435 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 6: need the evidence, you need people on the stand. 436 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 7: So that's not uncommon. 437 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: They lost the rico. They lost. It wasn't a rico. 438 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: And look, the prosecutor got fired right after the verdict, 439 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: which kind of sends a message as to you know, 440 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: they probably told her not to do it, but she's like, no, 441 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what. I'm gonna get him on a rico. 442 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the whole thing was ridiculous, and I 443 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: kind of feel like, you know, and what I feel 444 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: is that when it comes to a battle, right, and 445 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: we've all kind of gotten into with people in various ways, 446 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: when you win, you should stop. Right. Cassie got thirty 447 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: million dollars, She got Diddy locked up for a year. 448 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: He's lost hundreds of millions of dollars. No, Diddy has 449 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: been the new pause, right. He will always be considered 450 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: gay ish for the rest of his life. He's not 451 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: going to go to any big award shows, he won't 452 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: be honored or whatever else. 453 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 4: He was considered gay before that, No, but. 454 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: Not after the come on the nipple thing that that 455 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: was like, that's was but she didn't know about to 456 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: come on the nipples. That was crazy. He win an 457 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: argument with the man again, they can just pull that 458 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: out on him. So yeah, you know, he got, he got, 459 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: he got found guilty. And after all that, with thirty 460 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: million in her pockets, she publicly embarrassed him everything else 461 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: like that, she still wrote a letter to the judge 462 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: to not let him out before the sentencing. 463 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 5: Well, that's what a beating comes into play. And I mean, 464 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 5: the prosecution didn't prove it, so it don't matter, but 465 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 5: the beating comes into play because they were saying because 466 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 5: she was such an abused person, she she really didn't 467 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 5: want to participate in these things. She was doing it 468 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 5: because she was afraid that she might get beating. 469 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: That's not what the participants actually said. I mean, you know, 470 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: don the dealer, this tall guy with green eyes and 471 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: so forth, like he was like she picked me. We 472 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: had a great relationship, and they all said if they 473 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: felt that she was uncomfortable, they would have left, like 474 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: they you know, but she would pick them, she would 475 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: pay them, she would be in contact with them, she 476 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: would meet up with some of them on the side 477 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: and sneak out. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion. 478 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 4: They said she didn't have it. They didn't. They never 479 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 4: said she had immunity though, never. 480 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 6: Said it on the stand, but all the other there 481 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 6: was a there was a few other people that got 482 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 6: on the stand that they did the whole immunity like 483 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 6: whatever that exchange back and forth, it's called they did 484 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 6: it while they were on the stand, But they've never 485 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 6: directly said that about her. 486 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: Okay, who wants to bet that she won't get charged? No, seriously, 487 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars that she won't get charged. So, yeah, 488 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: she would have gotten official immunity, but we all know 489 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: that she's not gonna get charged. 490 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 7: Question, and this is just me being objective. 491 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 6: Yes, do you think that because a lot of her 492 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 6: letter with keeping him locked up and not getting bail 493 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 6: at least, was about the fear of like Diddy, you 494 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 6: feel like retaliation, I feel like so you feel like 495 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 6: there's no at this point if Diddy was to be 496 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 6: let go on bail, and even he's asking for charges 497 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 6: to be dropped or get a new trial. If he 498 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 6: was to just be let go everything free, he's a 499 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 6: changed man. Nothing will happen again. People don't have to 500 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 6: worry about nothing. You feel like that. 501 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: I think that Diddy is terrified of Cassie. I think 502 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: there's no person on earth that Diddy is more scared of. 503 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: I think he's more scared of like Cassie than sug Knight. Really, yeah, 504 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't think I think he's terrified based on what 505 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: she's done. 506 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: I think he knows it. I think yeah, I think 507 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: there's some. 508 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: More stuff in there and so forth. 509 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 4: He can't get no worse. 510 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: He's like, and look, she has thirty million dollars. She 511 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: can afford green berets and navy seals to surround her 512 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: house if that's what she wants. She has multi generational wealth, 513 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: multi generational generational wealth. And look at me. I went 514 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: at it with Tony Busby. I'm Pierce Mortgan. I went in. 515 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: I went in because look, you have one hundred victims 516 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: that all claim they were drugged and rap by Diddy, 517 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: but nobody in the FED case could prove they're drugged 518 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: and rate by Diddy. They're all found out guilt. You know, 519 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: he was found not guilty at all those charges. You know, 520 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: so you mean to say that all those hundred victims 521 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: were not part of the trial. I just think it 522 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: was a bullshit losses. That's why me and him went 523 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: at it. 524 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: How much would you pay for a Diddy interview? 525 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: The the first Diddy interview dropped like hundred thousand, drop 526 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand. 527 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: For the number though, you have to do a little 528 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: bit better for Diddy. 529 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he's rich. Like, I don't think you 530 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: can pay Diddy. I don't think there's enough money because 531 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: he's still probably worth hundreds of millions of dollars. There's 532 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: certain people that like, you can't really pay because they're 533 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: not gonna do it. They're gonna do it because they 534 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: want to do it. 535 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, has anybody reached out for his family that wants 536 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: to sit down? 537 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 8: Okay, you recently had some comments abou Nicque Minaj as 538 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 8: well Snitchey Minaj. Yes, do you do you really think 539 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 8: what she did with when she talked to Ane Luna 540 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 8: about top Dog threatening her life? 541 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: I mean, number one top Dog did not threat in 542 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: her life. There was this other guy that worked for 543 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: I think he was like a DJ or something like that. 544 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: I forgot his name, but he made a comment that said, oh, 545 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,239 Speaker 1: you know, NICKI don't want with TD. See what Kendrick did? 546 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: You know? She don't want to be in the blender. 547 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: And suddenly she's like, TD is threatening my life at 548 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: FBI at CIA, and then like Luna was like, we're 549 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna investigate this. It's like, you don't, damn well, nobody 550 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: threaten your life. You know, damn well, nobody threatens your 551 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: life without little comment you Nicki Minaj. So you turn around, 552 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: people call me the fans, but she's literally tagging the 553 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: FBI and CIA talking to representatives who are investigating the situation. Yes, 554 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: Niche Minaj. 555 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 10: How do you know? How do you know that they didn't? 556 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 10: How do you know someone did not threaten her life? 557 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: Though she's basing it on that that was a direct 558 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: response to some guy going on live saying, oh, you'll 559 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: get put in the blender. Do you really think that 560 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: this guy is gonna chop her up and put her 561 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: in a blender? Like seriously, seriously, come. 562 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: On, I'm sure Bobs went at you for a couple days. 563 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Oh, they still go at me. 564 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 4: But I thought they're putting the blender with slang. 565 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: Exactly rap, Like she's a rapper, it's rapper slang. Cut 566 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: it out, cut it out. I don't know what she's on. 567 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: But this tirade she went on, and the whole thing 568 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: of calling Sis ugly and so far, it was like, 569 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: Sis really don't bother nobody, you know what I'm saying, 570 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: She really doesn't bother anybody. 571 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: Crazy on you. 572 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: Yes, oh, we're gonna kill you, kill your family like that. 573 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: You don't like and no moments you don't contact nobody. 574 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 11: No, no, put it on her. No no, no, not Now. 575 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: Someone shows up at my house. 576 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 3: But we're not talking about that. 577 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: But someone shows up at my house, then then yeah, 578 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna absolutely contact you. Thought, oh yeah, definitely, you know, 579 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: or I'm going to protect myself one of the two. 580 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, like like we all, every one of this 581 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: room knows, there's the Internet and there's real life, and 582 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: the two are rarely related. These same people that say 583 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna kill you on the internet, if they meet you, 584 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: they want a photo that's real life. When I walk around, 585 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm loved. People want to take pictures of me, you guys, 586 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: I'll go through this. This is not just me, this 587 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: is everybody. They want to take pictures of me. They 588 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: want to take pictures with the kids. You know. They 589 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: tell me how much they love my interviews and so forth. 590 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: But on the internet you would think that I'm hated. 591 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: But that's not reality. 592 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 5: But also, but also the game needs villains. I don't 593 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 5: have a problem being the bad guy. 594 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the bad guy. 595 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm cool. 596 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, me too. 597 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: I don't need. 598 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 4: I could be part of the doctor. 599 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: Do that's cool. That's again. 600 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 3: Somebody you interviewed that walked out was like, I'm not 601 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: doing this. 602 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: I walked out in the middle of the interview. I mean, 603 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: ugly god did at one point. I think he apologized 604 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: he was going through a lot of like personal, like 605 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: mental issues, and we talked about that afterwards. Tretch kind 606 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: of walked out at the end. I just walk Tupac questions. 607 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: You know, we were just start talking about the Tupac murder 608 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: and so forth, and I think Tretch feels that he 609 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: was assassinated and there was more to it, and he 610 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: started to get kind of emotional, so he kind of 611 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: he didn't like storm out, but he got up and 612 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: was like, man, you know, I can't talk to about 613 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: this anymore, and so forth. But in general, like I 614 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: don't do I don't keep pushing people to the point 615 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: of them like snapping. You know, it's just not my 616 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: style because I also I'm not trying to have a 617 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: platform where people while out and storm out and so forth, 618 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: like that's you know, Adam is a little bit more 619 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: like that. He kind of likes that. But if you 620 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: look at my my platform, I've never really been into that. 621 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 10: Has anybody ever told you a story that got your emotional? 622 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, a few times. A few times. The girl 623 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: Mia from the Take Cay case when she was talking 624 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: about the you know, her sex trafficking and what she 625 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: went through and being like a teenager and being forced 626 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: to have sex with a bunch of men in motel 627 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: rooms and being forced to be a stripper and so forth, 628 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: that got me emotional a few times. A few times 629 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: I started kind of cry a little bit. 630 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, what about the date twenty sixth interview right 631 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 8: when you and him crying. 632 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't personally get emotional during that, but that 633 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: was kind of a crazy interview, because you know, because 634 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: I've had a person cry. I mean, I probably have 635 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: maybe a dozen interviews with people cried on camera, but 636 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: I've never seen a whole group of people start to 637 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: cry at the same time. And they cried in harmony, Yeah, 638 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: in harmony. 639 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, and that was crazy because they was up here 640 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 10: a week before. 641 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were done already though. 642 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 643 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 10: Okay, so they came to you first. Okay, when did 644 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 10: you take I. 645 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 4: Think they came. I think they came to you think. 646 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: I think you guys had them first. 647 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you text me one time? He was like, damn, 648 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: I was sad when we did out. 649 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: And if you think it was like when I released, 650 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 2: you're gonna see them crying, and the reason why I thought. 651 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm pretty sure, Maybe maybe I'm wrong. I 652 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: don't know. These dates kind of start to kind of 653 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: maild a little bit. 654 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: Did you ever find out what what why they all cried? 655 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: Well, well, I think you talked about it later. He 656 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: said that he was drugged, Oh, drugged her, which she's denied, 657 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: and then he woke up in a room and everyone 658 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: was laughing at him or something, and I don't know. 659 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: She she denied the whole thing. I don't know, I 660 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. 661 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 5: But they didn't give a fuck about don Aucassie's testimony. 662 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 6: On that note, one of the drawers came out afterwards 663 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 6: saying that they that was Dawn they thought was the 664 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 6: least credible. If well, he was an alternate jurer, if 665 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 6: he had to actually work going, he would have thought 666 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 6: she was least credible. 667 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, what did you think of ge Herbal's challenge to 668 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 5: you in academics? He said that I think it was 669 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 5: during the Adam freed Land in of you, he said, 670 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 5: I challenged academics, Blad and others to donate money to 671 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 5: kids in Chicago since since they made money off their pain. 672 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 5: Is the exact quote was, I feel like all those 673 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 5: kinds of guys, what they should do is give to 674 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 5: a nonprofit organization in Chicago. I'm gonna challenge him to 675 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 5: do that, like academics, Blad, all you n words that 676 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 5: made money off the culture and people dying in bloodshed 677 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 5: and shit like that, donate go donate twenty grand to 678 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 5: fifty grand to a nonprofit organization that focused on the 679 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 5: betterment of kids. 680 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 4: So it's a two part question. Really, how did you 681 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 4: feel when he calls you dan work. 682 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean, look, at the end of the day, the 683 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: obvious response, you know that the kne jerk creactions like, 684 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: well what about you? You have you say GdK in 685 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: your lyrics. You know that's gangster, discipled killer and you 686 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: have all these violent lyrics. 687 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 4: But Giovo does a lot though, was that Grbo does 688 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: do a lot? 689 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, at the end of the day, 690 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: I think we could all do things that kind of 691 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: help out. I think we all have a part in it. 692 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: I think me, academics and g Herbal and a lot 693 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: of the other drill artists have a part because we 694 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: all talk about it, and we all publicize it, and 695 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: you could say that just putting it out there could create, 696 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, negative situations. So you know, I've been talking 697 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: to g Herbal's people about doing an interview and actually 698 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: talking about it face to face on it because I 699 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: think that in that situation, the interviewer, I forgot what 700 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: his name is, Adam Freeman. It was funny, I just 701 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: did academics, this guy there's a picture here in blackface 702 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: that interviewer. Yeah, like like academics actually pulled out the photo. 703 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: So this dude's a racist, you know what I'm saying. 704 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: And I think he was purposely poking the bear to 705 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: try to get a you know, to try to get 706 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: a reaction out of Herbal. But I've interviewed gee Herbal 707 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: since he was a little herb, right, we have multiple interviews. 708 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: I think that we could all instead of saying and 709 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: start pointing the finger at each other and saying, you're 710 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: doing this, you're doing this, why don't we all come together, 711 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: maybe donate together, because we all have a part in 712 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: this in our own way. You know, nobody's completely innocent. 713 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: But ultimately, when you look at vlad TV interviews and 714 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: I've interviewed a lot of these Chicago guys, when I 715 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: bring up certain beef situations, it's always in the context 716 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: of like can you can you guys work it out? 717 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: A lot of these guys I know both parties. Like 718 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: for example, you look at like the Young and Ace 719 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: and Fulio situation. I've talked to both of them about 720 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: possibly working an eye. I can get both of y'all 721 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: on the phone. They didn't want to do it, and ultimately, 722 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, Fulio got killed not because of the Young 723 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: and Ace, but you know, through others situations but it's 724 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: like I always try to d esclay situations. I told 725 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: FPG Ducky should move out of Chicago multiple times, and 726 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: then the worst possible thing happens. Like you see this 727 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: a lot. But I've always tried to get peace with people, 728 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: just like I talked about it the Terrence Gangster Williams 729 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: a little Diesel situation. I try to bring people together 730 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: and get them to be cool with each other because 731 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: a lot of times when people can get on the 732 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: phone and have an actual, real conversation, like, look, me 733 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: and you have had problems, how do we fix it? Conversation, 734 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: Me and you had little issues over the time, and 735 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: we fixed it. Like these are all grown adults. We 736 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: can all fix it. But the problem is nobody talks 737 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: to each other. People look at comments, people at social 738 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: media amp them up. They have their friends around them 739 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: that tell them fuck them, we're not gonna do it, 740 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: and so forth, and then it gets worse and worse 741 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: and worse, and then people try to outdo themselves, you know, 742 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: because the worst thing in my generation in terms of 743 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: diss tracks was Tupac when you said I'll fuck your bitch, 744 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, oh, we can't get any worse that 745 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: it got worse than that. Chief Chief Keith came around 746 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: and suddenly it's like smoking my ops. And then Fullio 747 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: came around doing videos, you know, in front of people's 748 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: grave sites, holding up pictures of the people that were killed. 749 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: Some of them were like teenagers, you know. And I 750 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: remember there's an interview with Boosy in my next Boosey Interview, 751 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring this up. I said, Yo, someone's gonna 752 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: try to out ignorant each other. You know, someone's trying 753 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: to do out ignorant the game. I bet you someone's 754 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: gonna dig up one of their enemies trying it. And 755 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: after I said that, someone blew up a grave site. 756 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 757 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 4: What's next? They tried to do that? And then somebody 758 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: members somebody tried to do it was Pop Smoke's grave. 759 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: Got desecrated, you know what I'm saying, Like it's. 760 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 5: I think it's easier to have conversations when you and 761 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 5: a person at a previous relationship, Like it was easy 762 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 5: for me and you to have contents because we were 763 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 5: actually friends and still friends, you know what I mean. 764 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 5: And I felt like I did something fucked up, you know, 765 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 5: so I reached out so that I think it's different 766 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 5: when you actually have a previous relationship with somebody. 767 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but even people that don't really have previous relationships, 768 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: like me and Joe Bunden ran into each other I 769 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: think in December, and you know, I saw him looking 770 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: at me. We were a bro dwarf goodman. I looked over. 771 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, Joe Budden, He's like looking at me. 772 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: I walked up to him, we shook hands, we had 773 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: a short conversation, and then that's it. I spoke about 774 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: it publicly. He spoke about it publicly. The story's matched up, 775 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: and it was like, yo, like we don't have to 776 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: keep going at it, you know, And most times it's 777 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: like people think that they have to in order to 778 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: go viral and so forth, when most times it's like 779 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't really accomplish anything, especially when you talk about media. 780 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: I've always been very big about reaching out to media people. Early. 781 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: I was the first person to reach out to you 782 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: when you were in South Carolina and put you on a. 783 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 9: National yeah. 784 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: Two or three yeah, yeah, two thousand and three, somewhere 785 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: around that time. So I've always academics Adam Sean Cotton 786 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: Trapla Ross ten ninety, Jake, everybody, Like, I've reached out 787 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: to all these PEO people. I've offered any sort of 788 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: help that I could do. I've brought them on my platform, 789 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: I've done their platforms, and I feel like we could 790 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: all be better off if we all work together as 791 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: opposed to beefing. I think media people beefing each other stupid, 792 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: absolutely stupid. 793 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that new generation. 794 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 5: But to your point, it's like, yeah, you know, like 795 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 5: me and you know each other's Columbia SID Caroline you BDVD, Yeah, Academics. 796 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 4: I knew Act when ACT was doing college radio. 797 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 5: I was I'm DJ Academics first interview ever, the first 798 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 5: person you ever sat down an interview with me, Joe 799 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 5: Budden used to come to South Carolina and be hanging 800 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 5: out in my apartment. 801 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, it's just like, yeah, it is. 802 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 6: Kind of strange, But I think it's harder because like 803 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 6: a lot of people who don't know you only get 804 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 6: the perception of like what people say about you and 805 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 6: then what they see online and like because like there's 806 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 6: been times where you've even come out after tweets and 807 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 6: you've apologized for certain things with like the girl from 808 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 6: How Princeton and then the boss Man Dilo stuff. Yeah, 809 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 6: like but they don't. But people don't know you before that. 810 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 6: They just know people say about you. 811 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 5: Somebody is fault because I don't know why Bladd decided 812 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 5: to be a personality. 813 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 4: Could have just been you could have just been asking 814 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 4: the question. 815 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 5: Then you started to decide to be a personality and 816 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 5: coming at people. 817 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 6: That kind of your your tweets be like, yeah, sometimes 818 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 6: I'm surprised. 819 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm like five million impressions on this random ass tweet, 820 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: Like ten million impressions. I have something I do. I do, 821 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: but then again, I don't know what's going to take off. 822 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: Like it's like wow, like this is all World Star 823 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: and Shade Room and people are having interviews about and 824 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: so forth. I didn't think. I don't know, Like I 825 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: never thought that this would be what I was doing 826 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: in my life. Like I was just a hip hop fan. 827 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: I bought every Source magazine, about every double X Sale magazine. 828 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: I was just you know, neurotic about loving hip hop, 829 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: and I just thought that I was going to be 830 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: a fan for the rest of my life, and then 831 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: at one point it turned into something else. So the 832 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: fact that I'm here is always like a shock. So 833 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: when people recognize me in public or when the tweets 834 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: go viral, I'm always just flattered more than anything else. 835 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 8: Speaking of you know, people just communicating and get on 836 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 8: the phone and talk and have you and Marlon Wayne's 837 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 8: settled jaw differences. 838 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: You haven't talk. I texted him, and you know, I apologize. 839 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: I was going through a really rough patch. I was 840 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: going through a really rough patch in my life and 841 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: he just happened to be interacting with me at that point. 842 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: And the thing about that was, you know, he had 843 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: you know, he had asked me through his representative, he 844 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: wanted forty thousand dollars plus thirty percent of all future 845 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: revenues to do an interview. And I'm like, you don't 846 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: charge anyone for that, Like Walton Waite's been here multiple times. 847 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: How much you guys pay him? 848 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 6: Breakfast Club doesn't pay though you do, but you have 849 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 6: a reputation for paying people. 850 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: Okay, all the interviews he's done, I know all the platforms. 851 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: I personally know the people that he's done all the 852 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: platforms with nobody has paid him for the interviews or 853 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: no one's paid any sort of significant amount of money. 854 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: But I felt like him hitting up for forty thousand 855 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: was just sort of like, well, just say, don't fuck 856 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: with me that, don't ask me for this crazy amount 857 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: of money. But me and him had a conversation. He 858 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: was very cool and very polite about it. And I 859 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: was just being an asshole. Like I said, I was 860 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: going through a bunch of stuff and I just decided 861 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: to make it public and that turned into a whole 862 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: back and forth to a whole roasting session or he 863 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: roasted me, I roasted him, and so forth. But you know, 864 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: when the dust settled, I'm like, he didn't deserve any 865 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: of this. Very mature, Yeah, I said, I was just 866 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: being an asshole, Like I was just being a jerk, 867 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: because when it comes to interviews, you know this, Like 868 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm really I really just like I take it too 869 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: personally sometimes because this is my whole life and this 870 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: is my legacy, Like this is what I do. So 871 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: when there's someone who I respect and I feel like 872 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: I have a platform, I have a big platform that 873 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: if you do blad TV, you're not doing me a favor, 874 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: Like this is going to get out there, this is 875 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: going to cause you to get more business more shows 876 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: like people's entire careers were built off of doing blat 877 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 1: TV interviews, especially comedians, because I'm always been so locked 878 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: in with comedians, from from Aries to T. K. Kirkland, 879 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: who constantly says that you know that he's he's been 880 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: helped out by doing blad TV interviews to even like 881 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: the newer guys like like Will Mills and stuff like that. 882 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: Like I've always reached out cause I've been a comedy fan. 883 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: So I just felt like, you just hit me up 884 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: for this type of money. But you know, at the 885 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: end of the day, it was just a business conversation. 886 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: It should have been kept private, and I was being 887 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: a jerk about it. So I personally apologized in the 888 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: text message. He didn't respond, Yeah, OK, yeah. We had 889 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: each other's numbers, so you know, he didn't respond, and 890 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: he spoke about it, and you guys, you know, had 891 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: him on your show and so forth, and I think 892 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: he's still a little salty about it, and that's that's 893 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: his right. I understand. I don't expect my apology to 894 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: ultimately hit home every time, but he knows what it is. 895 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: So if we run into each other, we'll probably have 896 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: a in person conversation if. 897 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 7: He wanted to come down, the door still open for him. 898 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely, not for forty maybe like ten, maybe like ten. 899 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 4: I mean his number is number is a big stock. 900 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: I understand your numbers, your number to a certain degree. 901 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, there's also the market. Right. 902 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: So for example, you know you look at like a 903 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: stand up, you look like an airy Spears being him, 904 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: talked about this, right, Harry Spears does clubs. He's always 905 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: booked in clubs. Now he could tell his agent from 906 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: here on in, I'm only doing stadiums. If it's not 907 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: a stadium, don't call me. You know what's gonna happen. 908 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 4: No call, No, it's not gonna have any calls. 909 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: So you could say that your number is this, but 910 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: the market and the views don't support that. And what 911 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: I said was like when he did you know the 912 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club last time, it got less than a million views. 913 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 4: Now I think he got a million on rever. 914 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 3: You know, look at what it was I thought he posted. 915 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 4: It was like see I did. 916 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: No, he comes a lot though, Look up, Look up 917 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: the last Breakfast Club interview with Marlin Ways, look at 918 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: the numbers. 919 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 5: Let's see I think he's been here since the home. 920 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 5: A year ago, he got an interview that did four 921 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 5: hundred thousand. 922 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,959 Speaker 1: Four hundred thousand was about five thousand dollars. Okay, no, no, no, 923 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: I know. YouTube four hundred thousand views is about five 924 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. And you guys are a big platform where 925 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: we have a similar size overall, you guys do radio, 926 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: but on YouTube we have a similar size. 927 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 5: But then he was here a year ago. That was 928 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 5: a year ago to one that got punted. He was 929 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 5: here nine months ago and it. 930 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: Got Okay, so that's ten thousand dollars. 931 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 7: But around the time, around the time where was the. 932 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: Forty thousand dollars come in? 933 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 9: You see what I'm saying. 934 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 7: Shot right after y'all think nine. 935 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: Those numbers look a little little sketchy. 936 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 9: Sketchy. 937 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: Every other platform does this number, and suddenly is this number. 938 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: Those numbers look a little sketchy. 939 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 5: I mean months ago, she had a big part of 940 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 5: the our groom. 941 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 4: You know how that works too. 942 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying when you you know, every time 943 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: you do a platform, you get this and suddenly you're 944 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: like ten times that I don't know. 945 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 10: And then it also depends on what you're talking about too, 946 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 10: you know what I mean? 947 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was the follow up interview after our 948 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: beef and so forth. But I don't think that was 949 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: even a dressed in the interview, so I. 950 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 4: Don't know if it was. 951 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: No, it wasn't. 952 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 5: Can we talk about that for a second, because you've 953 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 5: been on YouTube for a long time. 954 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, YouTube does favor. 955 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: New right, well, brand new clips well, I mean yeah, 956 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: brand new it was favored absolutely. 957 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 5: But even new platforms. I think, no, you know things, 958 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 5: no talking, no talk to me, no. 959 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look, YouTube does a great job that if 960 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: you have a strong video, then it'll get it out there. 961 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: But I mean if you don't have the subscribers and 962 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: you don't have the following, and it's not being like 963 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: viewed and viewed and viewed like TikTok is pretty good 964 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: at that, Like you could have a TikTok page one 965 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: thousand followers and suddenly get like five million views. But 966 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: YouTube is not like that. 967 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 4: YouTube is shadow band does blacklisted us? 968 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: Really? 969 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 5: What they send us emails that says like this content 970 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily violate our terms and agreement, we just deem 971 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 5: it inappropriate. 972 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 4: Like what. 973 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 5: And you know, when it started It started after January sixth, 974 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 5: when I gave Donkey of the Day to who I 975 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 5: called Vanilla isis the people who stole them the Capitol 976 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 5: when they first thin how is this inappropriate for me 977 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 5: to get him don get to day? 978 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 4: And it's been kind of like I mean, but you. 979 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, it varies. We shout out to tomorl and 980 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: wayins Man like he's a legend what he does, and 981 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: I apologize publicly. I know that he didn't accept the apology, 982 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I was wrong 983 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: for putting personal business out in the public, and that's 984 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: what I apologize for. But I still will say forty 985 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollars was just a number that wasn't reasonable. 986 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 3: So was it. 987 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 8: I would think it would be the thirty percent of 988 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 8: revenue that comes from the content you tripped over to 989 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 8: forty thousand. 990 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: Well, the thirty percent wasn't reasonable either, you know. You 991 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: know now, if feels nothing in thirty percent, then that 992 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 1: would have been an interesting conversation. But forty thousand plus 993 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: thirty percent, I mean, we would have to get like 994 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: thirty million views to like break even, Like it's really 995 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: like a huge amount that that didn't really make sense 996 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: based on his overall numbers. Now it feels Cat Williams'd 997 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: be a different conversation. 998 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 3: Got but what was your biggest interview? At you the 999 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 3: most revenue? 1000 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: The the interview with Roger Bonds went crazy? Oh wow? Yeah. 1001 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: So Roger Bonds was Diddy's had of security for like 1002 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: ten years, and he first hand saw the abuse between 1003 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 1: Diddy and Cassie as well as all the other crazy 1004 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: stuff that was happening. And we did the interview right 1005 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: before Diddy was arrested, so it was doing okay, but 1006 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: then when he was arrested, suddenly, sure it went. It 1007 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: went crazy and just kept going crazy for like a 1008 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: couple of months. 1009 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 3: How almost did it do? 1010 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: Oh? I mean the full interview did like maybe two 1011 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: two three million views, but then all the clips did 1012 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: a lot and so forth. So it did. It did 1013 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: some big numbers, and I had him back since then. 1014 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 3: Why did you think he wasn't on a stand Because 1015 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 3: he wasn't. 1016 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: They contacted him, they contacted his lawyer, but they ultimately 1017 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: didn't bring him on, which surprised me a little bit. 1018 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I thought the fans fumbled that 1019 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: whole case, period, So it doesn't totally surprise me. 1020 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 4: I feel like you get more views for things outside 1021 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 4: of hip hop. 1022 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes, yeah, sometimes, But you know, lat TV has never 1023 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: been the darling of the music industry. You think about it, like, 1024 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 1: we don't really work with any of the labels anymore. 1025 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: If we work with artists, it's usually directly from the artists, 1026 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: like all the pr you know, sections of the labels 1027 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 1: like don't rock with me. So we had to figure 1028 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: out how to do it. We had to go outside, 1029 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, outside the box. We had to start bringing 1030 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: in people that other people really weren't you know, rocking with, 1031 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: and they're ignoring. So this is where some of the 1032 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: guests that became regular guests, like Lord Jamar was not 1033 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: like a hot hip hop artist at the time that 1034 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: I brought him on, and he became a big personality 1035 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: because we kept putting him on. I mean, Brand Nubian 1036 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: hadn't put out, you know, music in quite a while. 1037 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: But you know, I always try to just sit there 1038 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: and kind of think outside the box. Like I'll be 1039 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: watching Netflix, I'll be like, oh, okay, you know the man 1040 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: with a thousand kids. That sounds like an interesting interview. 1041 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: Let's fly him in from Amsterdam and have a conversation 1042 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: with him and it'll be like that. 1043 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 4: That's always been my mentality. 1044 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 5: We've talked about this a million times, Like I feel 1045 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 5: like the whole hip hop media thing it's a glass ceiling, 1046 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 5: right because you're. 1047 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 4: Only going to interview Jay Z once, if. 1048 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 5: At all, if at all, I've never you know what 1049 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 5: I mean, Like you're now You're only gonna get these 1050 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 5: interviews like once. So it's just like, why can't hip 1051 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 5: hop personalities talk to, you know, people outside of hip 1052 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 5: hop and why do you get penalized for that as 1053 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 5: a hip hop media journalist. 1054 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: Whatever I mean, I don't consider myself a strictly hip 1055 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: hop media personality, Like I've always been outside the box. 1056 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: So I've never looked at it that way, And like 1057 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: I said, a lot of it is because I had 1058 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: to do it now. Look, if I was on the 1059 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: list for every promo run for every big artist, I'd 1060 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: probably be focusing more on just hip hop and music. 1061 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: But I don't get that luxury. 1062 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 4: No, you wouldn't because it's still not a lot of holes. 1063 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 4: How many of old have we seen this year? Push 1064 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 4: the clips? Who else? Like seriously think about it like 1065 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 4: these a artists don't be doing those runs like that. 1066 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:49,879 Speaker 1: No more. 1067 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 8: Kamala would have been a big interview for you. Did 1068 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 8: they ever tell you, Comma. 1069 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 1: Kama, we reached out, we were having conversations. 1070 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 8: Would have explained to you why they passed no. 1071 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 9: No. 1072 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: But she fumbled a lot of stuff during her you know, 1073 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: during her campaign, and I've publicly said how it was 1074 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: a huge mistake for not to do Joe Rogan. I 1075 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: think that she had she had more of a chance 1076 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: of winning if she had done Joe Rogan, because Joe 1077 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: Rogan did Trump and did uh Jade Vans exactly. Both 1078 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: of them came in sat with him for hours, whereas 1079 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: Kamala said, you have to come to me and you 1080 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: have a limited amount of time. And I just thought 1081 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 1: that was a mistake. Yeah, And I think if I 1082 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: had done a Kamala interview, we had like multiple hours 1083 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: that could ask whatever we want, it would have been 1084 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 1: like her biggest interview in you know, probably in her life, honestly, 1085 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: because I really would have really gone in and so far. 1086 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: And I voted for Kamala. You know, I have pictures 1087 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: of me voting for Kamla. 1088 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 10: So you know, do you think our biggest fumble was. 1089 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: I think that at the end of the day, we 1090 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: didn't really know who she was. I love, love them 1091 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: or hate him. Trump was transparent. He came in and 1092 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: did all these podcasts, you know, and he did all 1093 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: these all these talks for multiple hours, and you got 1094 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: to know who he really was as a person. I 1095 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: think Kamala to this day is still an enigma, and 1096 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: I think that the people just didn't connect. And look, 1097 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. 1098 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 5: She announce her book today too. She dropped a book 1099 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,479 Speaker 5: called one hundred and seven Days for pre order. 1100 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool, Like I voted for I like Kamala, 1101 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: But it was just one of those things where people 1102 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: who supported Trump were gonna come out, They're gonna bring 1103 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: their friends, they're gonna tell everyone they're going to campaign 1104 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: and so forth. People when it came to Kamala were 1105 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: a little bit I don't know, I don't know. And 1106 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: when you saw the final numbers, the last time you 1107 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: saw a blowout like that was I think Obama's first election. 1108 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 5: It wasn't a blowout, though it was a blow he 1109 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 5: lost all the swing states number. 1110 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: But actually will like, look at all the votes of 1111 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,720 Speaker 1: Trump versus Comedy. 1112 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 4: Look at that actual number. There wasn't a blow out 1113 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 4: at all. 1114 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 5: It was like it was not even not even I'm 1115 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,240 Speaker 5: tell you right now, it wasn't a blowout. 1116 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 4: She did lose all the swing states. 1117 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 3: It was a couple of million. 1118 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm gonna tell you right now. 1119 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: Look at the last time you've seen that type of 1120 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: gap for the presidential election. It was Obama. Remember I 1121 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: looked it up. So you're talking about what fifteen years. 1122 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you all right now. 1123 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: And she lost a lot of states. 1124 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, Kamala had seventy five point I mean seventy a 1125 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 5: little bit over seventy five million votes, and Trump had 1126 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 5: a little bit over seventy seven million votes. 1127 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 3: A couple million, Yeah, it was Okay. 1128 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 5: What I think the matter of fact, the percentage of 1129 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 5: the popular vote, Kamala was forty eight point three. 1130 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 4: Trump was forty nine point eight. 1131 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: So okay, okay, you're right. I think what I'm talking 1132 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: about is the actual You look at what do you 1133 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: call the states things? 1134 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 4: Right? 1135 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: When you count the what do you call the vote votes? 1136 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 1: We took the electoral college votes, That's what I'm talking about. 1137 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 4: It was two twenty sixty three twelve. 1138 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: That's a that's a blowout. Two twenty six versus three twelve. 1139 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Last time that happened was 1140 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: Obama's first election two twenty six versus three twelve. That's huge. 1141 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 1: It's pretty big. It's pretty big. 1142 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 3: It was a letdown. 1143 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, what what? 1144 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 3: Who do you want to talk to? 1145 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 2: Who do you want to sit down with that you 1146 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 2: haven't yet that's been in the works. Maybe it could happen. 1147 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 3: Can't happen? 1148 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 2: Who is that one person that you said I would 1149 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 2: love to sit down and talk to him. We're trying 1150 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 2: to make it happen. 1151 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this can't happen anymore. But me and O. J. 1152 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 1: Simpson were in talks. 1153 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 4: You never talked to OJ, never talked to OJ. 1154 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: We were about to do it. I was gonna pay 1155 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: them one hundred thousand, right, and you know he had 1156 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: to go through like another guy because he had lawsuit 1157 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: that he wasn't paying back. 1158 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 10: Darland is gonna be pissed me. 1159 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: So me and O. J. Simpson were supposed to do 1160 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: an interview. They just said, don't get too deep into 1161 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,399 Speaker 1: the blood evidence and stuff like that, and I said, 1162 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: that's cool. You know, I'll touch on the trial, but 1163 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: I don't think. 1164 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 3: I don't know why it mattered at this point, but 1165 00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 3: go ahead. 1166 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: Right. So it was all set up and they was like, okay, 1167 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: he wants cash. So I talked to my account. They're like, okay, 1168 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: we can do cash. They just have to fill out 1169 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: a W nine and do an invoice whatever. 1170 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 3: You couldn't give it to him directly. 1171 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: I did to give him to his man, right, I said, okay, cool, 1172 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 1: we'll do cash. It's like, okay, I need the full 1173 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: amount before he gets out the car, and I'm like, yo, 1174 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: he owes like ten million dollars. He's never paid, like 1175 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: he's he's a crook, always. 1176 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 10: Bringing up somebody person like some. 1177 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 4: Money. 1178 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: If you have a reputation of not paying people and 1179 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 1: you want all your money up front. And I even said, look, 1180 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: I'll give him fifty thousand up front and fifty thousand 1181 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the interview. No, they would not budge. 1182 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 1: They would not budge so business wise, because look, my 1183 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: fear was like, we get fifteen minutes into the interview. 1184 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 1: I asked him a question he doesn't like, and he 1185 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: walks out, what am I gonna do? 1186 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 4: That's great. 1187 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna shoot him like you know, I'm not 1188 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 1: gonna tackle him like. 1189 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 4: Like you know, has great reviews, you get old, just. 1190 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: Not one hundred thousand great reviews like it. It's a 1191 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: viral moment, and everyone will take that clip and run 1192 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: with it. People think like viral does not always mean 1193 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: money on the track. 1194 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 5: But depending on the question you ask him, that causes 1195 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 5: him to walk out O J. 1196 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 4: Simpson, that's international news. 1197 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: Okay, possibly, but I can't. But that's not what I'm 1198 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: here to do. I'm not here to have a viral 1199 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: ten seconds. I'm here to actually get OJ's first real 1200 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 1: sit down interview talking about his whole life. And ultimately 1201 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: he passed away, so I never got it. You know, 1202 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: would it probably gone well? Probably? But as a small business, 1203 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: I can't take one hundred thousand dollars risks. I mean 1204 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: I could, but it's not good business sense to do that. 1205 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm a CEO, I have a dozen employees, I have 1206 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 1: office space, I have people who depend on me to 1207 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: pay their rent. So I can't just sit there and 1208 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 1: gamble a hundred thousand with someone who doesn't want to work. 1209 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 7: With me, doing conversation like how close to his passing. 1210 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,439 Speaker 2: Look a year, you think, oh you did it. Yeah, 1211 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 2: we're you gonna ask him about did he do? Was 1212 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 2: that going to be one of the things I want 1213 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 2: to dance around it somewhat? 1214 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 7: He wrote a book it's yeah. 1215 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 1: I did it. If I did it, If I did 1216 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 1: I think, I think you did. I mean I even interviewed, 1217 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: uh Kato Kaitlin, you know who was there when it 1218 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: all happened, and he was telling me how like you know, 1219 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: after it happened and everyone's in the house and Kato's 1220 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: in the house, and he was like, uh, yeah, Kato's 1221 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: with me the whole time. He knows that Kados like 1222 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: how was out with you? We went to McDonald's and 1223 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 1: came back and then you disappeared for a while, Like 1224 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: you know, He's like, I gotta get the hell up 1225 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: out of here. 1226 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 4: I do wish you know? Did you? And I'm glad 1227 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 4: That's why I'm glad. 1228 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 5: I'm glad you started that series where you're talking to 1229 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 5: people about their business and how they make money off YouTube, 1230 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 5: because like the stuff that you just said even a 1231 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 5: little while ago, like just that business aspect of it, 1232 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,879 Speaker 5: it's not worth one hundred thousand. I want to hear 1233 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 5: more of that because I think that these kids are 1234 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 5: dellusional as to what people are making online. 1235 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: Well well, okay, so so if you go to the 1236 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: blat TV YouTube channel, YouTube dot comslas flat tv, we 1237 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: have two tiers of membership. So we have the regular tiers, 1238 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,760 Speaker 1: so for five dollars you can get the full interview 1239 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: on the first day, but then there's one hundred dollars tiers, 1240 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: which is the lad TV YouTube Masterclass, where I actually 1241 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: have exclusive interviews where it talks about, you know, with 1242 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: people like academics and ten ninety Jake and people like 1243 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: that that actually have shown how they've built their YouTube 1244 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: businesses to make hundreds of thousands or even millions of 1245 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 1: dollars off their channel, as well as I have lessons 1246 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: where I break down exactly what I did. I actually 1247 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: show my studio, I show the equipment, I show the 1248 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 1: money that's made and so forth, actually showing people how 1249 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: to build up YouTube channels. And you know, it's been 1250 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: it's been great. A lot of people have joined up. 1251 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 1: You know, we do live sessions, and I think it's 1252 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 1: really dope to kind of give back to show people 1253 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: because so many people have made careers. Like I said, 1254 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: Terrence Kanster Williams have made careers off of YouTube channels 1255 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: to the point where they can just work at home. 1256 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 1: You know, for example, like Trench's News. You know that 1257 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: clip is coming out I think today, where he makes 1258 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,399 Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand a year. He doesn't even show 1259 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: his face, wears a mask the whole time, and he 1260 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: does these stories about Chicago in his bedroom and he 1261 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: could support himself and his family. He's made. I think 1262 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: he has kids to just do these types of YouTube 1263 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: channels and they don't have to get like a nine 1264 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: to five job. They work for themselves, They decide when 1265 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: they want to work. They create their own content. A 1266 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: lot of these guys edited themselves also, So yeah, you 1267 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: too masterclass. 1268 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 6: With the people that you're talking about, right that's making 1269 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 6: money online and like they're becoming the outlets. The Complex 1270 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,240 Speaker 6: hip hop media list just dropped. Yeah, and it always 1271 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 6: caused the controversy, but this year I think people were 1272 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 6: particularly arguing most about like you got Considant on the 1273 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 6: list and then poy Max you're on the list, academics 1274 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 6: on the list. Is there people that you think should 1275 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 6: not be on the list or should have been on 1276 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 6: that list because you you're helping people come up in 1277 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 6: this game that are being placed there. 1278 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,479 Speaker 1: I think the list is relatively accurate. You were five, 1279 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 1: I was six. I'm always just flattered to be on 1280 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: these lists. I remember I was scrolling up from thirty 1281 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna be on this year. 1282 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 1: That's cool, you know. And then I was like six. 1283 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that's cool. Like I thought I was 1284 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 1: a little hotter last year than this year, but they 1285 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: want to give it to me. I'll take that. I 1286 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: think everyone, like the Kai Sinots of the world, that 1287 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: they have pushed the envil hope to create something new 1288 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 1: the streaming platform. I think black Boy Max is like 1289 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: number four or something more on that list. Like these 1290 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 1: guys you know and girls have come come and created 1291 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: something that really has not been around before. And you 1292 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: can't deny what Kay Sanad has done. I mean he's 1293 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: had Nicki Minaj and all these other you know, Kevin 1294 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: Hart's and all these other major celebrities on his stream 1295 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: and they've all looked good being on that strip. 1296 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 10: Being messy. This is all just great positive content. 1297 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,800 Speaker 1: That's true. Look, I've never I've never really hated unless 1298 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: you've hated on me first. I've always been like, yo, 1299 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 1: that's dope. And I've had people like Neon, you know, 1300 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: on my platform. I admire what they've done. Like when 1301 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: Neon said he spends two hundred thousand a month just 1302 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: to pay people to clip his content, you know, and 1303 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: that's on the Flag TV two Masterclass, I'm like, huh, 1304 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: that's that's interesting. That's impressive, you know, to to invest 1305 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: that type of money back into your own business, especially 1306 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: when you're a relatively young person. I think it's amazing. 1307 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: You guys had one to show that was a whole 1308 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: how you fucked about the view. I didn't really watch it, 1309 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 1: to be honest, but I guess you brought up some 1310 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: racist comments that he had done in the past. 1311 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 4: Everything I didn't even know about. 1312 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:16,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't. 1313 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know about that either. 1314 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 4: I didn't know. 1315 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I know the stuff that how you want the 1316 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 7: Internet and you don't know. 1317 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 4: I did like the. 1318 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 3: Stuff later, I didn't know about all that I knew. 1319 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 4: I knew about and that stuff, but I found that 1320 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 4: out like thirty minutes before the interview. 1321 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't follow the Dion's of the world. 1322 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 4: The same I'm fifty. 1323 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 7: Two, but you don't. 1324 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 6: I mean I didn't, so I don't follow neon either. 1325 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 6: But when he was coming here, the minute I typed 1326 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 6: his name and TikTok, those were the first things that 1327 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 6: came up. 1328 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you ain't playing what he was? 1329 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 7: I did? 1330 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 4: You played one? 1331 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 7: I played? 1332 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 1: We didn't. 1333 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 7: I mean we moved on after that. I had. We 1334 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 7: had a whole conversation before I came in here, didn't 1335 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 7: we you weren't here. 1336 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 3: I thought about all the stuff that she played the other. 1337 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 6: Day, a new conversation, like I mean stuff before the interview. 1338 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 9: You just knew about that, not all. 1339 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,879 Speaker 8: Of the stuff, but this relatively, because he was saying 1340 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 8: a bunch of ship. 1341 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 10: We were here. 1342 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 9: She played a video. 1343 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:10,280 Speaker 1: The video. 1344 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 10: She was not. 1345 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 4: The black. 1346 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 1: I can assure you that if that was looking. I 1347 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 1: don't do my own research sometimes, like you know, my 1348 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: assistant Evan does a lot of the research for me, 1349 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: so sometimes we miss certain things. I could assure you 1350 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: that if I had known about that, it would have 1351 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,479 Speaker 1: been brought up in the interview, because I talked about 1352 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: him faking his death and stuff like that. I assure 1353 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: you that if it was in my notes, I would 1354 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: have included I was that softballing neon on any level, 1355 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: But certain things would just kind of slip past me. 1356 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: After the fact. They'd be like, oh, why did you 1357 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 1: ask about that? It's like, oh, you're. 1358 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,399 Speaker 3: Right, sometimes forgot about I can. 1359 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: Tell you that that was just a gap that we had, 1360 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 1: and I would have brought it up, But in this case, 1361 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 1: I didn't bring it up, but I brought up a 1362 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: lot of other controversial stuff in that interview. 1363 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 6: Do you ever get tired of people tell you that 1364 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 6: you should be more of like a fan of the 1365 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 6: culture and not an actual commentator because you're not black. No, 1366 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 6: When the Princeton thing happened with the lady we talked 1367 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 6: about earlier that worked there, why did you decide to 1368 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 6: apologize in that situation. 1369 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: Well, because a person that was very close to me, 1370 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, had a conversation about it. You know, they 1371 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: want to be left out of the conversations. I'm not 1372 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: going to say who it is, but someone that everyone 1373 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: here knows, and they sort of explained to me that, like, 1374 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 1: look like this is just an online back and forth. 1375 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: It shouln't affect people's jobs. So the fact that I 1376 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 1: like tagged Princeton. You know. When I responded to her, 1377 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that was fucked up, you know the 1378 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: end of the day though, But you guys addressed it 1379 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: as well. I still feel that someone who works for 1380 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: an IVY league, you know, university like Princeton, because I 1381 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: went to UC Berkeley myself, which is kind of like 1382 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: an IVY league, you know, in his own right, Like 1383 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: people of that caliber should be held to a higher standard. 1384 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 1: So when someone says, you know, and if you look 1385 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 1: at that whole situation, all I said was the mixed 1386 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: quality of Kendrick's not like us takes away from the 1387 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: song a little bit. His actual engineer later on came 1388 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: forward and said, yeah, Kendrick called me and said put 1389 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 1: this out in thirty minutes, and I had to just 1390 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: throw throw a rough mix together and throw it out. 1391 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: The final mix was actually improved. So all I said 1392 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: was I didn't say the song was whack. I didn't 1393 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: say it was important, it wasn't important, and so forth. 1394 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: I said, the mix quality slightly takes away from it. 1395 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: And her response was, you are white. This is black 1396 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 1: people's business. 1397 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 7: I'm black folk affair. 1398 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: Black folk affair, and I'm like, this is a prince 1399 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: a professor saying this, this is crazy. 1400 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 5: You walked to some of these studios, you'd be surprised 1401 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 5: most of these mixes that are mixing these records are white. 1402 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 4: White. 1403 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: I didn't realize, right. I also didn't realize at the time, 1404 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, based on her name, that this is Rodney 1405 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: Jerkins's niece. I know Rodney Jerkins. I interviewed him at 1406 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 1: his home in Hidden Hills. We were maintaining contact. So 1407 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 1: the first thing that happen, and I think maybe a 1408 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: day later, you know, when I apologized and said, listen, 1409 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: I was just trolling. I never called Princeton. I never 1410 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 1: tried to get her to lose her job. I was 1411 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: just I thought she was trolling me with that comment. 1412 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: So I'm like trolling her back, right, I never did 1413 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: anything to that regard, and the last I checked, she's 1414 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: still a Princeton. Right. So the first thing Rodney, you know, 1415 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: Rodney hit me. He's like, hey man, thank you for 1416 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: not getting body's fired. I'm like, I was never gonna 1417 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: get a fire. So we got on the phone and 1418 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 1: the first thing I did was like, EO, Rodney, like 1419 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: you're you're a mega producer. Like my comment about the 1420 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 1: mixed quality. Is like, let me stop you, because you're 1421 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: absolutely right the mix quality was bad. So I was 1422 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: a little insulted. I'm like, here's a person who is 1423 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: a professor, I think in literature or something like something 1424 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: like that telling me a DJ, someone who listens to 1425 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: audio every single day. Because I put out video and 1426 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 1: audio every day. I got my headphones on listening to audio. 1427 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about when I say the 1428 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: audio qualities is a little bit off, and this person 1429 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: who doesn't know anything about audio tells me to shut 1430 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: the hell up because I'm White's so funny. I got 1431 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: kind of consulting. I got kind of insulting. I'm sorry. 1432 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 1: I thought that was ridiculous. I thought that was ridiculous. 1433 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 1: But listen, I know Kendrick. We we've had conversations together, 1434 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Like I know TD, Like I know what I'm talking about. 1435 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: I was like, this is crazy coming from someone's got 1436 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Princeton in their profile. But at the end of the day, 1437 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: I didn't want her to lose her job, so let 1438 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 1: me just apologize for that part of what I said, 1439 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 1: and she didn't lose her job. 1440 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 4: That wasn't a societal issue, though there was no reason 1441 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 4: to bring race into that. 1442 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a song. 1443 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 10: They not like us, right, So I. 1444 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Just want to say this, like you see Kendrick doing 1445 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: his like European tour, just a sea of white people, 1446 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 1: a sea of white people, exactly, a sea of white people, 1447 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,959 Speaker 1: so they can't comment on it after they bought their. 1448 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 10: Tickets singing lyrics were for word. 1449 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 5: I just thought that was weird for her to bring 1450 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 5: up a race when you were talking about sound quality, 1451 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 5: because people don't know your background, right, And I appreciate it. 1452 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 4: They don't know you, Yeah, I think you know. 1453 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 1: I just want to say, I appreciate you guys for 1454 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 1: having my back on that. You guys, I really appreciate that, 1455 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 1: just honest. 1456 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 6: I was going to say, even if she knew your background, 1457 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 6: I think it goes to the thing we was talking 1458 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 6: about earlier, like people just feeling like you shouldn't be 1459 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,439 Speaker 6: here just because of what they perceive you as because 1460 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 6: of other stuff. 1461 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Well, I'm here, so it is what it is. I'm here. 1462 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. 1463 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 4: Did the coachure bult your claims even bother you? No? 1464 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 1: No, what are you thinking about? 1465 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 5: Do you ever look at some white people say okay, 1466 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 5: well that is a coach of Boult, But I'm not that. 1467 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Well the dude with the black face, you know, the guy, 1468 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: the guy that did the g Herbo, the Freeman guy. 1469 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, if you got black face, you're a 1470 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 1: culture vulture black people. But then you're doing black face, 1471 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, behind the scenes, So that's disgusting. 1472 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 4: I did want to ask you what before you go, 1473 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 4: what did you think about? 1474 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 5: And I listen list of just lists, but what did 1475 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 5: you think about Adam twenty two not being in there 1476 01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 5: at all? 1477 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: He should be on there? Yeah, absolutely, Like for example, 1478 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 1: like I would take Rory Mall off that list and 1479 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 1: put out him on that list. Yeah, because when you 1480 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 1: look at viral moments and so forth, Like I mean, god, 1481 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 1: like remember fourth of July four Extra getting his hand 1482 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 1: blown off. How do we even know about four Extra 1483 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: because a no Jumper. That's the only reason we know 1484 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: about him. Like, he's had so many viral moments, you 1485 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 1: know that. 1486 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:23,959 Speaker 4: But who was four Extra? 1487 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 7: You didn't see the video to die with the firework? 1488 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 4: What did they have to do it? 1489 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 1: Well, he's a no but he's a he's a personality 1490 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,640 Speaker 1: that was on No Jumper and then he lit a 1491 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: firework and blew off his hand and I heard a 1492 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: blue off half a guy's face. Also crazy. 1493 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,479 Speaker 3: You know most of the big, the big un rolling 1494 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 3: sixty old that. 1495 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 1: All that was jumper, Yes, jumper, Yeah, it was all like, yeah, 1496 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: brick Baby was a jumper. He was also you know, 1497 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: doing my show as well. Like, no, jumper definitely affects 1498 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: the culture. So to leave him totally off the list, 1499 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 1: but you put Rory Mall on the list, This doesn't 1500 01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. 1501 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 5: I think Complex has to do a better and maybe 1502 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 5: all of us gotta do a of defining. I guess 1503 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 5: what is culture and what is determined what is considered 1504 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 5: hip hop media? Because somebody, you know, hand going off 1505 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 5: from a fire crack it on seem like hip hop 1506 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 5: media and even the big U stuff and all of 1507 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 5: that that's not hip hop. Well some of them guys 1508 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 5: rappers though, yeah, okay. 1509 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for extra as a song, he did 1510 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 1: a song with Kevin Gates. 1511 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 5: I guess to me, when I look at it, and 1512 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm not even putting myself in comments. 1513 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 4: I look at like Gene Views. 1514 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 7: You're talking about real impact. 1515 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 5: No, Rob Markman, No, I'm not saying real impact, Like 1516 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 5: definitely an impact. I'm talking about like the people who 1517 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 5: actually comment on hip hop as we know. 1518 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 4: It, the music, the culture, Rob Markman, gena views, But. 1519 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 1: But Rob Markman, like what is last time something he's 1520 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 1: done has gone really viral and has really affected the 1521 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: culture like that, I haven't really seen content. I know 1522 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 1: you could be consistent, but if you don't make an impact, 1523 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be on that list. There's people that are 1524 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: really good at what they do, but if you don't 1525 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: get it out to the masters, if it's not really 1526 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 1: picked up and it's not moving the needle, and you 1527 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: can't be on that list. 1528 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 7: I think the definition then has to be impact. 1529 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 6: Because when I said that, because I know no Jumper 1530 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,439 Speaker 6: is like a part of the conversation, what I meant 1531 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 6: is like you're talking about people who are like doing 1532 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,520 Speaker 6: like the rap list and the all that talk music. 1533 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 5: Like Max is a perfect person to be on there 1534 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,959 Speaker 5: because every time I see him, yeah he's rapping, he's 1535 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 5: doing music, he's interviewing artists like that what I'm talking. 1536 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 2: But then they also mentioned coverage on the Diddy case. Right, 1537 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 2: it was somebody that did coverage on the did but 1538 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,160 Speaker 2: Lauren should have been on that list down. There was 1539 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 2: nobody that covered more about that case, that did more interviews, 1540 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 2: that had stations and networks calling her about that. 1541 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 10: She was in every. 1542 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 4: Possible security team. 1543 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 8: But Lauren was in a court every day. I'm talking 1544 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 8: about from the time they started to the time they ended. 1545 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 8: She was breaking it down. She was still keeping up 1546 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 8: and man, kids was walking up on a flat. 1547 01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 9: Man. 1548 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 10: It's like it was a lot going on. So she 1549 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:01,680 Speaker 10: should have been on. 1550 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 1: The Yeah, I mean, look like it's all it's all 1551 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 1: a journey, you know, like some of the stuff that 1552 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 1: you do will not always be recognized in the short 1553 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: term and the long term if you stay consistent. Like, look, 1554 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 1: this is now seventeen years of just YouTube. Right before that, 1555 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: there was a few years of DVDs. Seventeen yeah, two 1556 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, two thousand and eight, that's when I 1557 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: launched my channel to twenty twenty five, that's seventeen years 1558 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,480 Speaker 1: plus I was doing I was doing DVDs, which you were, 1559 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to you during that time. 1560 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I was twenty years. 1561 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 6: YouTube became in two thousand and six, what SORRT When 1562 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 6: did YouTube like start? 1563 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: YouTube started a little bit earlier, But in two thousand 1564 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: and eight, that's when they introduced a partner program, which 1565 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 1: I actually turned into a real business. So yeah, I 1566 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: had videos on YouTube before them, but there was just 1567 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 1: little promo videos, trailers or whatever else. But in two 1568 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, when you could actually start making money 1569 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 1: with YouTube, that's when I just saw the vision. I 1570 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 1: stopped DJing, I stopped doing DVDs, I stopped hustling on 1571 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 1: the side. It was like, Okay, let me just do 1572 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 1: this period and put all my energy into it, because this 1573 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 1: is about to be the biggest video platform on earth. 1574 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,920 Speaker 1: And I was right trying. 1575 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 4: To figure out when we first started doing interviews to 1576 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 4: be like eight, right. 1577 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: About that time you wait or nine. Yeah, we were 1578 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: already friends. 1579 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 7: A little bit later now, because I did. 1580 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 4: I got fired from Philly, and when. 1581 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 6: I got from I went, yeah exactly, which is crazy, 1582 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 6: glad because when I left my job, we talked somebody 1583 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 6: from your team, or I thought, were you. We talked 1584 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 6: a bit about me potentially coming over. You'd be having 1585 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 6: like an I early for things. 1586 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: And I tried to well. Originally, I was born in 1587 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Ukraine in Kieva, was part of the uss HARD at 1588 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: the time. I grew up in Massachusetts for a couple 1589 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 1: of years, but I really spent most of my time 1590 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area, so I grew up in San Mateo, 1591 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 1: and then I went to school in UC Berkeley, so 1592 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 1: I was in Berkeley, Oakland for about ten years. To 1593 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 1: New York. L A. 1594 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 2: You know, well, we appreciate you for doing I do 1595 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 2: know you're not aspired from the Ukraine. 1596 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 1: Charlotte made need to come back to black TV. I 1597 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: hit him up the other day. I, Yo, it's been 1598 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 1: three years since he did blat TV because I did 1599 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 1: Academics a couple of nights ago. He's like, Charlotte, not 1600 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 1: rock with You're like, no, we're talking, but we just 1601 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,439 Speaker 1: haven't scheduled anything. And I did him up. 1602 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 5: When I told lad and I haven't told you I 1603 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 5: wanted to do a whole I wanted all of us 1604 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 5: to do it. 1605 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I said, do let us do it. But 1606 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, it's been three years. I've done two 1607 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: breakfast club appearances and a brilliant idiot appearance. His appearance 1608 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, come on, I'm coming. 1609 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 8: I ain't coming unless I get that's coming. 1610 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 9: And my brother mall DJ Breakfast Morning. Thank you. 1611 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Click your ass up the 1612 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:47,919 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. 1613 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,439 Speaker 4: I'm finished for y'all. Done,