1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to our first between the horns of a new year. 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: It's Week eighteen in the National Football League, and as always, 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: we are presented by your Southern California Toyo to dealers. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm JB along with senior rider Stu Jackson and DeMarco 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: Farr our residence super Bowl Champion, Big Old Champions. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: Come on, I'll take world champions. Let's go. 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: I want to start with the biggest cliche in football? 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: How is it week eighteen? Already? We do this every 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: time we get to this point. 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: In the year, but unbelievable. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: I believe like there's no Thursday eight football tonight. That's weird, crazy. 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: What are we going to do? What are you going 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: to do? Actually be present at home? No, I'm gonna 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: watch football. I'm gonna lie. The three of us. 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: I think Stu's the only one who lived it up 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve? 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you do? You said you were you you 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: were going out? What'd you do? 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: I went out with some friends and hosted a winning season, 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Yes I did, and a playoff spot exactly. 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: I believe. 22 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: We were looking forward to some big stakes this week 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: in Santa Clara. That's not going to be the case, 24 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: is it at all? Bitter sweet? I know how you think. 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: It's San Francisco forty nine ers. 26 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: Oh man, you know I want nothing more than to 27 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: beat San fran But look, when you've got the playoffs 28 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: all locked up and you've got a chance to actually 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: to compete for Lombardi, that is it. Everything else goes 30 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: by the wayside. But there is a part of me 31 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: that wants to go up there and win, just to 32 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: mess up their year. If I can't have a Rams victory, 33 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: I'd rather have a San Francisco loss. That's how I feel. 34 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: I hear you. But the opportunity to rip them of 35 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: their one seed no longer on the table. Thanks to 36 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Rams are secured as a playoff team, 37 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: either the six or the seven seed. We'll talk about 38 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: whether that dynamic matters, but now too, the goal is 39 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: to win in Santa Clara potentially twice this month. 40 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, playoff seeding at stake here. So if the Rams, 41 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: as long as they win, they'll key possession of that 42 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: number six seed. But a loss in the Packers win 43 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: would cause the Packers to pass them up and grab 44 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: the number six seed, and Rams would then slide down 45 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: to the number seven seed because Packers, from winning that 46 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: game earlier this season, have the head to tiebreaker over 47 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: the Rams. So host of other things going on as well, 48 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: with other games and how that, you know, potentially impacts 49 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: who the RAMS wild card round opponent will be. 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: All that seating Calculusy, that's just let's just beat San 51 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: fran Can we keep it simple? Yeah? Absolutely? Come on, 52 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: that's it. One, that's it. 53 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: News of the week has to do with some NFL honors, 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: right ul Bowl list released will dig into that. We 55 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: can also make our case for sweeping the NFL Rookie 56 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: of the Year honors. But you want to give us. 57 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: Turner Kobe Turner said it again? Yeah, go ahead, Yeah. 58 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: But want to we start with Pro Bowl reactions? Kiren 59 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: great deserved man special. 60 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: Think about this, right, this team, this franchise has always 61 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: been about the running back. When they're at their best, 62 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: there is a guy that is a number one running 63 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: back that's carrying them. And I hope this Kaiwan Williams 64 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl year turns into an era. Wouldn't that be fun? 65 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: Think about the eras McCutchen era, Dickerson Earra Bettis era, 66 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: Falk era Jackson, Gurley Williams, why not love it? 67 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pukanaku in his debut season will be a Pro Bowler. 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the records that are available to him. Momentarily. 69 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald does what Aaron Donald does, that was for granted, 70 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: taken for granted. Matthew Stafford's the one I want to 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: focus on. And I'm going to speak out both sides 72 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: of my mouth here because I'm not a big Pro 73 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: Bowl guy. Like, it's great for them, they get the 74 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: recognition they deserve, maybe some financial incentives, whatever it is. 75 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: But if retweets from November count not out, but it 76 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: doesn't mean as much to me as like an All 77 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: Pro or a Rookie of the Year offensive player. The 78 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: are those types of things. But where it does matter 79 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: to me is if it preclude you from a bigger goal. 80 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: And when Stafford arrived in Los Angeles, he didn't have 81 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: a playoff win and he had one Pro Bowl to 82 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: his name administratively first STU. In the last forty eight hours, 83 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: he's picked up two. We find out like they went 84 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty one, when he would have been 85 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: an alternate. He was too busy winning the Super Bowl 86 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: and they granted him that one, so now he's on three, right. 87 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I was going back through his Pro 88 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: Bowl history or history of that recognition or just what 89 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: was attached to his name and what wasn't. I couldn't 90 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: quite figure it out as I was getting that article 91 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: ready for when that announcement was going to happen, And 92 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, so, how many does he really have? And 93 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: so yeah, like you said, that administrative note was very 94 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: helpful and certainly deserved, and hopefully that states his case 95 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: a little bit better for that future. 96 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: So let me get into the future considerations. And I 97 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: haven't checked to see if his Wikipedia page is updated yet. 98 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: You know, three Pro Bowls is not going to get 99 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: him into canon. But what I didn't want to happen. 100 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: You and I have talked a lot about his Hall 101 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: of Fame chances now I think bubbling to the surface 102 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: again with the year he's had. Yeah, I didn't want 103 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: to get five, seven, ten years down the road and 104 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: someone to be in that room saying, you know, I 105 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: just don't know if I can put a quarterback in 106 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame who only had one or two 107 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl honors to his name. So I'm not saying 108 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: he gets in because he's got three Pro Bowl honors. 109 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Now I'm saying we can trust our eyes, we can 110 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: trust his other accomplishments, because we've seen two full seasons. Now, 111 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford in Los Angeles, what do your eyes tell you? 112 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: Special? One of the best, one of the best ever, 113 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: one of the best to ever do it, and whoever 114 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 2: that guy is. If you're sitting in that room someday 115 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: and you're trying to evaluate Matthew Stafford as a Hall 116 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: of Famer and you're going by Pro Bowls, then I 117 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: hope you get the bums rush out the door. I 118 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: hear you. 119 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: But it's just nice to know, or. 120 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: You just woke up from some sort of coma you've 121 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: been in that you can't look beyond that and see 122 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: that this guy is tremendous. So always been a fan 123 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: of Matthew Stafford when the Rams had a shot back 124 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: in the day two thousand and nine, so kind of 125 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: a fan from afar. Then to see him up close, 126 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: like wow, this dude's his arm talent is for real. 127 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: And then the leadership qualities, the stuff you don't get 128 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: to see, unbelievable. He is truly special. If you want 129 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: to call Aaron special, which he is Aaron Donald, then 130 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: you have to call Matthew Stafford special. Same thing. Different 131 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: sides of the football has to be right. So I'm 132 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: glad he's getting his flowers this year. 133 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: And I think this year tends his runway and he's 134 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: gonna put up a whole bunch more great numbers and 135 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: hopefully great season. So that it's a moot point. But 136 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: I just don't want to be looking back saying, oh, 137 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: you know what, there was a reason to put Matt 138 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: Ryan in ahead of him or rat on down the list, 139 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 140 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, all due respect right to those guys, but yeah, 141 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: I mean, come. 142 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: On, you know what I care about more than Pro 143 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: Bowls though, are all Pro honors and other NFL awards. 144 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: And I'll give him a pass for now that Kevin 145 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: Dots is not a Pro Bowler. I'm going to withhold 146 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: my anger and frustration so long as he's in all 147 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: pro s too, because I know you and I'll both 148 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: flip some tables if he isn't. 149 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been tremendous this year. I mean, when the 150 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: Rams reshape their offensive line and one to take on 151 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: a more physical identity and also reconfigure it a little 152 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: bit to better serve the gap scheme concepts that they're 153 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: doing with their run game. He's been so incredibly impressive 154 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: just point of attack, you know, working to the second level, 155 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: you know, Coleman Sheldon told me earlier this season he 156 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: loves working in combo with dots In and feels like 157 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: they can always get movement because of the kem mystry 158 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: they have in the way they work together. Like just 159 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: not enough accolades really, or not enough words that I 160 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: can say about just the impact he's had. And also 161 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 3: even in the past game too, I know he's grated 162 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: a little bit higher depending on you know what metrics 163 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: and evaluations he use, you know, as a run blocker. 164 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: But even still in the past game, someone of his 165 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 3: size has been important, just like Steve Avila as far 166 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: as you know, being able to anchor the pocket and 167 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: give Stafford a little bit more space there to work 168 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: with too. 169 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt. What are his metrics, the pro football 170 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: focused metrics, right, He's one of the better guards two 171 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: as of this morning, So I would love to hear 172 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: the argument against him not making the Pro Bowl. But 173 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: I'm with you if he's all Pro, then so be it. 174 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: But I know what my eyes tell me. When the 175 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: Rams in the yard, they run right behind Havenstein and him. 176 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: Most of those goal line dies by Kyron Williams come 177 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: over that side, and when the ball is snapped on 178 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: the run, he's moving people and against a good pass rush, 179 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: most of the pressure does not come over that guard. 180 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: So when you look league wide, and I always do 181 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: because who's blocking Aaron Donald, get to know who are 182 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: the other good guards. I haven't seen a guy play 183 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: as good as him this season, so he should be 184 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: in the Pro Bowl. 185 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: I think it's the most improved unit in the National 186 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: Football League, the Rams offensive line. I think that position 187 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: group has been the most critical to their success. It's 188 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: made everything else possible offensively, and he has been the 189 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: most outstanding among the starting five. I hope that all 190 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: adds up to an All Pro before it. 191 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: So but done. He looks like he's uncomfortable when he walks. 192 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: He only looks comfortable hitting people. 193 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he likes the resistance, Yes he needs it. 194 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: Yes, that's all you know. You've got a good guard. 195 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get back to our Rookie of the Year stumping. 196 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: Let's start on defense with the surging Kobe Turner surging 197 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: only I think in terms of the population at large's 198 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: opinion of him. We've been on that bandwagon from the 199 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: very jump, thanks to Peter Schreger for jumping on and 200 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: leading that bandwagon and wearing his jersey on Good Morning Football. 201 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: Awesome. 202 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: So many others have chipped in, but I'll throw this 203 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: in your wheelhouse as someone who played that position, for 204 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: him to be doing it next to Aaron Donald and 205 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: at times beating the goat to the quarterback to match 206 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: and maybe this we can break Aaron's rookie record for 207 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: the Rams. What does that say to you? 208 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: Oh me, I thought you were talking to Stu. 209 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: It's Stu's wheelhouse two. 210 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: But Sue played and I'm just saying no, just tremendous. 211 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 2: And you saw this, And we're going back to draft 212 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: day when you start to learn about Kobe Turner, you know, backwards, like, okay, 213 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: let me see you in college and he's in a 214 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: five technique and he's playing out of a four point stance. Really, 215 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: what's this guy going to be? You're A'shawn Robinson replacement. Yeah, 216 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: that's how we see him. And then you see day one, 217 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: and he's doing get off drills next to Aaron, and 218 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: he's actually moving before Aaron, and Aaron has to keep 219 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: up with him. And then all of a sudden, it 220 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: starts to even out. Now you're pushing each other. And 221 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: then Bobby Brown's in the mix, and you start to 222 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: see these guys form this little, this little three man group. 223 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: No matter what, we've got size, We've got Aarin, we've 224 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: got Kobe. And then they start to move around. He 225 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 2: starts to take his own reps and he starts to 226 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 2: win on his own, and you think this dude is 227 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: going to be special at some point, to the point 228 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: where when Aaron decides to retire, this will be the 229 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: guy we're talking about. He's got the right body type, 230 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: long arms, and he's got the right coach. There's no 231 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: reason for this guy not to be good this year, 232 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: and lo and be old. Here we are. We're talking 233 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: about him with nine sacks with a chance to rent 234 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: Defensive Rookie of the Year, which he should. The only 235 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: problem is he's playing next to Aaron, So you know 236 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: what that means. You're only doing it because of him. 237 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: So I hope more people take a look at this 238 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: year and what he's done. It will tell you he's 239 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: been the best defensive player in the game this year. 240 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: May if Jalen Carter is your main competition in Philadelphia, 241 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: though he's not playing next to Slouches either. Yeah, I 242 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: think Kobe's production speaks for itself, but his personality takes 243 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: him over the top. And if you're buying into narratives 244 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: and career arcs or whatever, he's already got a nickname, 245 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: he's got a signature, celebration, and he's a wonderful dude 246 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: to be around, as we've all experienced. Like I bubbled 247 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: this up again this week, the guy had to crash 248 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: his high school friend's recruitment visits to just to get 249 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: an FCS walk on opportunity. Come on, not only is 250 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: he outperforming Jalen Carter, but like, pay this thing off 251 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: with the defensive rookie of the year. 252 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think you guys stated his case better than 253 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: I could have. The only thing I would really add 254 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: is just from the moment I got to talk to 255 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: him this summer when when he first arrived in LA 256 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: and just learning about him through the reporting I did 257 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: for you know, a feature I wrote on him back 258 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: in July I felt very strongly about the fact that, 259 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 3: you know, with with the way he developed and who 260 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: he was as a person and all those things, at 261 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: some point there he was going to make it really 262 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: difficult on the on the coaching staff to keep him 263 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: off the field. Like that's just how I felt about 264 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: his trajectory. Now that's not to say that I thought 265 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: it would be defensive Rookie of the Year caliber, but 266 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: you know, he certainly, you know, earned the right to 267 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: be in that conversation. And to your point too, DeMarco, 268 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: about you know that case of what they what the 269 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: reason that some may use against him, as far as 270 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: playing alongside Aaron Donald, you still have to know your 271 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: stuff and you still have to win those matchups. 272 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he's winning one on ones. 273 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: Right Yeah. So like for people who would say, oh, 274 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: well Aaron's getting he's just taking advantage of Aaron getting attention, 275 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: it's like, well, he's still winning some one on one 276 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: matchups too. And again if he can't get that production 277 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: unless he's studying and has a really strong work ethic 278 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: and like I said, putting the moose together to be 279 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: able to take advantage of this matchup. 280 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: And I remember back at the draft house, how firmly 281 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: less Snead felt about Kobe Turner, Eric Henderson, his position coach, 282 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: Rynie Morris's defensive coordinator. I'm happy for all of those 283 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: people that contributed to that evaluation process where they ever write. 284 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Puka now his pursuit of 285 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: NFL history, but let's tee up the conversation with his 286 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: quarterback for this week. In Week eighteen and the regular 287 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: season finale, Carson Wentz well aware of the task on Sunday. 288 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: He's a stud. 289 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 4: Puka has been a stud, and you know, seeing it 290 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: from far but then coming in here and seeing it 291 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: up close and personal. You know, he's not only a 292 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 4: stud receiver, but when you put the ball in his hand, 293 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 4: never would have known he could he could run like that. 294 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: He's getting these end rounds and he's you know, picking 295 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: up huge play laden games, you know when we're just 296 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: trying to run out the clock in different scenarios. So 297 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 4: he's been a lot of fun working with. I don't 298 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: know if he really knows how good he is. You know, 299 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 4: he's still a kid, but I think this guy's a 300 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: limit for him. And it's cool that he's getting the 301 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: recognition that he is, and you know, hopefully he can 302 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: get that record. 303 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: All right, He needs four receptions and twenty nine yards 304 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: to set those NFL high water March respectively. His quarterback 305 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: knows it, his head coach knows it. And I thought 306 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: that was interesting to Marco. Didn't you to have Sean 307 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: McVay reflect back on Todd Gurley in twenty seventeen and 308 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: resting starters in the finale and costing Todd the rushing 309 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: title because of that? 310 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: And it's weird, man, And it's all about team success. 311 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: You want to win a Lombardi and that should be 312 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: your focus, but as you move on, you'll have that regret. Man, 313 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: it was right there for you. Why not go get it. 314 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: I feel the same way for Pooker right now, Go 315 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: ahead and get it, get it as quick as you can, 316 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: and then get him out of the game. And it's 317 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: not just about him. If you're a teammate, you want 318 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: to work hard so he can get it. You really do. 319 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: I remember having guys chasing records and we had a 320 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 2: punt returner that had a chance break a record at 321 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: the end of a game that didn't matter, and we 322 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: worked our butts off on defense to get one more 323 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: stop so he could have a shot at it. So 324 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: it's more than just Puka going after it. It's a 325 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: bunch of guys that want to see him get it done. 326 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: So I hope it happens. I hope it happens in 327 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: the flow of a win. But either way, at some 328 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: point you'll never be this close again. That record stood 329 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: for how long sixty some odd years. Martins will go 330 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: ahead and get it. 331 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: So he needs eleven yards for Jamar Chase's modern record, 332 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: which I think to me matters a lot. I think 333 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: it's tough to overlook what Bill Gruman did in fourteen 334 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: games fourteen games in nineteen sixty, but that's the twenty 335 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: nine yards. And look, they extended the MLB season two, right, 336 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: and that home run record now stands up. So yeah, 337 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. But secondary to those pursuits, I 338 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: would say he's got the fourth most receiving yards this season. 339 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: He'll Lamb Brown ahead of him. 340 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 341 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: If Dallas takes care of Washington in the early window, 342 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: aj Brown may not play for Philadelphia and then Puka 343 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: can finish solidly in third place in the league and 344 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: receiving yards as a rookie that's worth it to me. 345 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely. He's been tremendous this year. I mean, he's really 346 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: soaked up all the knowledge that Cooper cup has given 347 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: him and Matthew Stafford's given him, and for somebody who 348 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: was also a fifth round pick too, and I want 349 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: to say he was the twentieth receiver taken in this 350 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: year's draft. To be putting up those numbers, I mean, 351 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: and to like to have this candidacy is just absolutely nuts. 352 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: But again a credit to the work that he's put 353 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: in and the teammates he's been able to lean on 354 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: in their willingness to share that knowledge and information and 355 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: put him in a great position to succeed. 356 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: What you can't control is how CJ. Stroud plays this weekend. 357 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: If he goes ballistic leeds Houston the playoffs, well that'd 358 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: be tough to overcome. I don't know. But Puka is 359 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: one of one, as we like to say around here, right, 360 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: so I hope it pays off with an NFL Offensive Rookie. 361 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: Of the Year. Quarterbacks all the glory, all right. 362 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: So that's kind of the individual portion of our program. 363 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: Stu. 364 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: You touched on some of the scenarios A bit here. 365 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: I'll just reiterate them win for the sixth seed, Cago 366 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: beating Green Bay for the sixth seed, your opponent most 367 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: likely either Dallas or Detroit outside shot at Philadelphia. My 368 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: question to you, can you prioritize that does it matter 369 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: if you're in Sean mcvay's shoes or even if you're 370 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: you're in your own shoes. Do you have a lien 371 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: in terms of who you'd like to see next weekend? 372 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, for the fun of it, you know 373 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: where I'd like to see the season go. I think 374 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: we're all in the same Matthew back in Motown, Oh 375 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: my god, I mean that would be the dream matchup. 376 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: I bet the NFL would want to have that. You know, 377 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: think about that he has to go back to Detroit 378 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: to get a win, and think about the coin toss 379 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: and they send Jared out there and both of those 380 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: guys shake hands at midfield. Come on, man, this is 381 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: what we live for. I hope that happens. But that 382 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: being said to me, does not matter. It just who 383 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: you line up with is who you line up with. 384 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: And you've got three or four more victories to call 385 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: this a winning season. 386 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: What about the element of if you're the six. I'm 387 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: not trying to dodge San Francisco at all. There's nothing 388 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: I want more in this moment of football time than 389 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: that divisional round trip Toya Clara. But there's a slim 390 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: chance you wouldn't have to be that team to go 391 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: there to face the one seed if you do get 392 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: the six, Because could Green Bay go to Dallas and 393 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys? I think so why the Packers are 394 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: playing Why not account for that slim possibility? 395 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: Well, and I know Jordan Love has been playing really 396 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: well late in the season after some you know, early 397 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 3: season struggles. The Packers seem to have figured things out 398 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: offensively in terms of not only getting him on the 399 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: right track, but really just that unit as a whole, 400 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: as far as the things that you know, head coach 401 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur and his staff have done. And so we'll 402 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: see what happens, but I certainly think there's a possibility 403 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: of it. 404 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: Something happened in green Bay that week, right, It happened 405 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: for the Rams. They turned around after that week, and 406 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: green Bay turned around after that week. 407 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: But that's for another day. Crazy and I do want 408 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: to keep the possibility of hosting the first six to 409 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: seven NFC Championship game at Sofi Stadium. I just want 410 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: to keep that on the table as well. All Right, 411 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: we've gone far enough without hearing from the head coach 412 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: here he is Sean McVay on all those dynams mixed 413 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: and more. 414 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 5: I think what you want to understand, Greg, is, all right, 415 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 5: are any of these guys potentially affected from some incentives? 416 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 5: You know, Matthew's played long enough, He's had so much 417 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 5: success and and earned all the accolades and the credit 418 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 5: that he gets. But I think he understands the big picture, 419 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 5: as does An Aaron and a Cooper, and you know, 420 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 5: these guys that have played a lot of football, and 421 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 5: so I think they understood the approach. You know, you 422 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 5: always talk through those things with those guys, but you 423 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 5: are mindful of, all right, are their potential incentives? You know, 424 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 5: going back to even twenty seventeen, my first year here, 425 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 5: when it was kind of a right you might be 426 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 5: the three or of the four, you know, and we 427 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 5: felt like resting some guys. 428 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: You know. 429 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 5: The thing that was unfortunate is Todd was the leading 430 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 5: rusher in the league. Kareem Hunt gets one carry, they 431 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 5: get him out that you know, so you're cognizant of 432 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 5: all of those things and you try to manage it 433 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 5: the best that you can. But Matthew was great about it. 434 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 5: He understood, you know, these guys all want to play, 435 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 5: and that's the best thing about it. And then I 436 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 5: think when you explained to them what my thought process 437 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 5: and our thought process as coaches was, they're totally supportive. 438 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 5: And we still have a really good week of preparation. 439 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 5: This isn't like a preseason game. This is Hey, we 440 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 5: got to take steps in the right direction. The guys 441 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 5: that are playing need to be ready to go and understand, 442 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 5: you know that it is about continuously improving and then 443 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 5: ultimately those guys that aren't do a great job leading, 444 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 5: continuing to prepare and then being ready to go when 445 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 5: the wildcard comes around. 446 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: All right, Sean McVeigh giving us a little bit of 447 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: a look behind the scenes in terms of his thought 448 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: process for Week eighteen and the trip to face the 449 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: forty nine ers Sam Darnold against Carson Wentz. Try explaining 450 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: that to your twenty eighteen self, good luck. 451 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm asleep. Did he really just say that? Wow? Unreal? Look, 452 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: I for one cannot wait to see Carson Wentz live 453 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: in a RAMS uniform, like you see him on the sideline. 454 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: You see he's engaged. You see he's a big unit. 455 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what he looks like on 456 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: the field because I do remember the last time we 457 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: saw him here when he was at the Coliseum, when 458 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: he was on his MVP run. He really did change 459 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: the league. Big strong, mobile quarterbacks were on their way 460 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: in and he was at the top of it. So 461 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: if he can still play like that, that's going to 462 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: be special to watch, and it also sets up one 463 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: heck of an offseason. 464 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: Sean being more transparent than his counterpart in San Francisco 465 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, at least so far, who says no Party, 466 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: no McCaffrey. But other than that, we're not sure who 467 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: will and who won't for San Francisco yet. It's due 468 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: to what we have this right. Note Boom and Higbee 469 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: down due to injury Stafford Williams cup Donald Jones held 470 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: back for preservation for the wildcard round. 471 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: Correct, yep. 472 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: So you can only elevate two from the practice squad 473 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: without signing them to the active roster. So if youve 474 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: got fifty three to start plus two practice squad. That's 475 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: fifty five minus the seven we just listed. That's your 476 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: forty eight active on game day. So I get what 477 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: Sean's saying in terms of this is not the preseason 478 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: in terms of the options available to you to rest, 479 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: for instance, your offensive line in this moment in time. 480 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 2: Am I right? Yeah? 481 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely? I mean I think some of the discourse about this, 482 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 3: you know, potentially looking or feeling like a preseason game 483 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 3: at least to me, doesn't feel entirely fair, just because, again, 484 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: like you mentioned, so far, forty nine Ers head coach 485 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan has only said that McCaffrey and Purdy are 486 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: the ones who are going to be sitting. The Rams 487 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: are going to have are scheduled to have their full 488 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: offensive line, at least based on what Sean McVay said 489 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: this week, so which is obviously going to be a 490 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: benefit to Carson Wentz playing behind that group. And so again, 491 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: assuming that's just those two for the Niners, Perty and McCaffrey, 492 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: they'll be going against the regular starters for the San 493 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: Francisco's defense, and so lots of different elements there where Yes, 494 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: some of the more notable names aren't going to be 495 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 3: you know up. But nonetheless there's still plenty of intrigue 496 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: and interest in this There should be plenty of intrigue 497 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: and interest in this game. 498 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: If that makes sense. I mean, if you want to 499 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: split the roster up if you had to, you want 500 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: to protect your offensive guys more than your defense. You 501 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: want to keep them rolling. When you talk about is 502 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: the rest versus rust or do you give them down 503 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: on that? Give the offense the rest, especially if you 504 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: have an older group, give them the so be it. 505 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: But you want to keep your defense hungry and active, 506 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: so you can give them the reps. Let them start, 507 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: take them out in the third quarter. But the offensive guys, 508 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: the Matthew Staffords, the special guys, the Christian mccaffreys, There's 509 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 2: no way I'm giving you free shots at the game. 510 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: That doesn't matter defensively, let aarony. Absolutely. 511 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: I do ever think the fact that Sean is comparing 512 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: it to the preseason does give you a glimpse inside 513 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: his mind in terms of how this game shapes up 514 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: for him. Right sure, And part of his thinking has 515 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: to be if the larger goal is to get back 516 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: to Santa Clara later this month, then why give them 517 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: any glimpse of what that game plan might look likelutely. Yeah, 518 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: you're playing some starters. Yes, you're playing Carson Wentz. Yes, 519 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: you want to win this game, but I want to 520 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 1: win it with wing t and swinging gate and triple 521 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: option everything. I want them to have to tackle Boyce 522 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: Freeman thirty times. I don't want them to get any 523 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: preview into what's coming if that game should happen. 524 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: If you no, no, no, I got you. No, I'm 525 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: with you, I would run the same game plan. I 526 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: see you. I would give them a full dose, a 527 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: full dose of Royce Freeman. Go ahead and tackle this guy. 528 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure he might be a little upset right now 529 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: because he's not taken a lot of carries. He's going 530 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: to be motivated, just like Carson Wentz. I get you, 531 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: But it's a weird situation for any coach to be 532 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: when you're trying to win and you're trying to also 533 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: protect your best assets at the same time. It's a 534 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: weird situation. But it's a Champagne problem to have. 535 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: At this point, you asked Carson Wentz, I believe if 536 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: he's aware of the Baker Mayfield dynamic, going back to 537 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: just one calendar year. What was his answer to that. 538 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: Thought, Yeah, he said that really he's just trying to 539 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 3: put his best foot forward for the team, and he 540 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: certainly saw what Baker did last year and is aware 541 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: of it. But more than anything, he's just trying to, 542 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: you know, help the Rams come away with a win 543 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: this Sunday. But it was at the top of mind 544 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 3: for me because you know, knowing what his situation is, 545 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 3: and again, the circumstances for the team itself were obviously 546 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 3: much different late last season compared to obviousis sleep this season. 547 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 3: But you know what Baker was able to do and 548 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: how that set him up in the offseason was was 549 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: was you know, that seemed like that was a pretty 550 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: big deal for him or to me, it felt like 551 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: it did a lot for him, And so for Carson, 552 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: I feel like that could potentially be the same case 553 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: here where you know, even with the answer he gave, 554 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: like I mentioned, there's still enough in terms of personnel 555 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 3: with like who the forty nine ers are going to 556 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: be playing and who's going to be available for the 557 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 3: Rams that he still has a chance to you know, 558 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 3: put some good game tape out there from this game 559 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 3: that the dynamic play well, move on. 560 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: I mean I don't I don't want to speak that 561 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: dynamic into existence, but that's but. 562 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: That's the dynamic. Okay, play well here, get a starting 563 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: job someplace else. I mean, either way, it still works out. 564 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 2: I mean, you're hoping for the best wins you can 565 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: possibly get for the Rams right this way. But he's 566 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: also putting good tape out there for other teams. 567 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: He goes out there and plays forty on the San 568 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers and gets you to ten wins. 569 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. 570 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing a new helmet next year. 571 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: Fake. Yes, sir. Absolutely. 572 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: There are some other guys, though, who I think will 573 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: get bigger chances potentially in this game, who might factor 574 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: into the Rams postseason run as short or long as 575 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: it becomes. I'm talking about Trey Tomlinson full on the 576 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: practice report with his hamstring injury, Duke Shelley back from 577 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: injured reserve hamsterring as well. Davis Allen could get more 578 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: work with Tyler Higbee down two two out Well could 579 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: probably use a few routes and touches, maybe even a 580 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: hit or two. 581 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not down on him yet. I'm not finished 582 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: with him yet there's going to be something to be 583 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: said about him coming up soon. 584 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And if Brett Maher were to go three for 585 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: three with a few extra points on that plane surface, 586 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: I think that would be good for the potential future 587 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: as well. 588 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: Don't you think that's most important? That would be top 589 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: of list Week eighteen. We've got to get that done. 590 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: Be letter perfect in team special Teams this week. 591 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of where I'm going next. Okay, you 592 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: want to just jump right there. 593 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 594 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: So normally at the end of our show here we 595 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: do keys to victory. And I'm not saying we can't 596 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: do keys to victory and being the forty nine ers 597 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: here in week eighteen, but I thought we would just 598 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: kind of broaden our perspective a little bit and say, 599 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: now that it's a new year, a bit like last 600 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: year's New Year's rediss, what are the keys to facing 601 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: San Francisco a second time? What has to go right 602 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: for the Rams between now and a potential rematch with 603 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers later this month. 604 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: Okay, you start with the kicking game, so regardless of outcome, 605 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: and you know how that bothers me because it's forty 606 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: nine er week. You want to win, right, So, but 607 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: regardless of outcome, even if they outscore you and defensively 608 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: you don't play well, whatever, you have to win the 609 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: kicking game period. That means more than anything. Then for 610 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: this week, you have to sew that up. Meaning if 611 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: you tried out your place kicker, he's got to make it. 612 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: It's got to be a good snap, good hold, good kick, 613 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: good everything. You've got to be able to cover. So, 614 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: no matter what happens, you have to win the kicking 615 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 2: game this week versus San fran if you want to 616 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: see them again down the line. So I think that's 617 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: got to be job number one coming out of Santa Clara. 618 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: Sorry, I was just thinking about the nine Pro Bowlers 619 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers had, And I know I said 620 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: I didn't care about Pro Bowls, so I'm not sure 621 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: why I'm so hung up on it. Yeah, but their 622 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: specialists are great too, and I want to make sure 623 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: that all nine of those Pro Bowlers get to participate 624 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl games in Las Vegas. That's my 625 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: new goal for the Rams in twenty twenty four. 626 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 2: All nine of their guys, yes, get to participate, knocking 627 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: them out. I love how he does that. See yeah, yeah, 628 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: that was good night, Shyamalan. 629 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: Sorry so you took kicking game with your key Stu. 630 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: The question was key to facing San Francisco not once 631 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: but twice in January. 632 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: Well, since de Marco covered special teams, I'll go with 633 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 3: another phase and I'll go defense. I think capping explosives 634 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: no matter what the personnel is, as far as run game, 635 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: who the targets are for Sam Donald, in the passing game, 636 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: what have you. You know, they've always been able to 637 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 3: generate those plays and like I said, in the run 638 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 3: game or in the pass game, especially from the yards 639 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 3: after the catch standpoint, with the personnel they have on 640 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: their offense. And so if nothing else for just a 641 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: confidence boost for a young defense, but especially if you 642 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 3: end up potentially, like you said, seeing the forty nine 643 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: ers again the postseason, that to me should be goal 644 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 3: number one. Or as far as just limiting those as 645 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: much as possible and ensuring that that doesn't have an 646 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: impact on the game. 647 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: I'm with you and that plays, whether it's like you 648 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: go to Dallas, you better sit over the top of explosives, 649 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: make sure Ceedee Lamb doesn't get his Brandon Cooks, and 650 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: on and on and on I was thinking of two 651 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: fundamental things, one on each side of the football, tackling 652 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: right time, and on special teams too, since that was 653 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: reader's ugly head again last week in New York. And 654 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: then on offense. We said it during New Year's Resolutions, 655 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: but drops and it ties into kicking too, Like I 656 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: think about McVeigh going for it on that first drive 657 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: on fourth down in the Meadowlands, right, and I think 658 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: they need to continue to be ruthlessly aggressive on fourth down, 659 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: given the state of the kicking game and given the 660 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: state of their offense. Quite frankly, but when you do 661 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: go for it and Matthew Stafford puts it on the 662 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: back bipad of Puka Nikua to protect him, you got 663 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: to make that catch to make sure that that drive 664 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: stays alive and you don't have to trot defense or 665 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: your field goal unit out there. And then at the 666 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: team level, what is it three weeks in a row now, 667 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: you've had wire to wire victories, you have not trailed, 668 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: and yet the fourth quarter of every single one of 669 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: those games has been dicey. Let's face it, You're not 670 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: going to see the Giants from this point forward. The 671 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: Saints know the commanders know if you open the door 672 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: to a fourth quarter comeback. From this point forward, your 673 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: next trip is to Cabo. 674 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it could end you, no doubt. But at least 675 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: when in those situations where it's it became thrilling at 676 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: the end. There's no better training than that. When you're 677 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: living on the edge and you're close to you know, 678 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: falling off, and you find a way. He says it 679 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: every Monday. You develop that grit. So when you do 680 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: get in these matchups in Detroit, in Dallas, in San 681 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: Francisco this week, you're not going to blink when it 682 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 2: gets tight in the fourth quarters. But I would love 683 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: it if they figured out how to finish a little. 684 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: Bit better this right, So good news is your hands 685 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: team has been tested. Yes, let's just make sure they 686 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: don't have to do any heavy lifting moving forward. 687 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: They've got an experience, but we don't need you today. 688 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: How about that? 689 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: Or you can look at the other way that the 690 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: more your hands team is on the field in the postseason, 691 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: the better. 692 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: I mean, this is true. 693 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: Final thoughts before we kick it back, Just. 694 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: Interesting, man, I mean, who to thunk it? Right? Here? 695 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: We are talking about the playoffs. Here, we are talking 696 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: about Carson Wentz is going to start the end of 697 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: the year. Wow. The one thing we can all say 698 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: about all this this year is, man, can that guy? Coach? 699 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: Sean McVay, Yeah, so, I guess all the talk about 700 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: him going bye bye is bye bye. This is what 701 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: he does, this is what he loves to do. And 702 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: here we are again moving into the post. 703 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: How great was that on the Coaches Show when we 704 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: let him know that he's now, you know, within striking distances? 705 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: He said, how many? Immediately? I love it? Yeah, my guy, 706 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: how are you going to wrap up the week? 707 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: I think once the playoff spot was clinched, I went 708 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: back to what Sean McVay said. I believe it was 709 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: at the beginning botas it was one of the first 710 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: team meetings that you know, this was obviously captured, and 711 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: I think it was the first episode of Behind the 712 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: Grind this year where he was speaking in front of 713 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: the team and he was very transparent about, Look, we've 714 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: had to make a lot of discipline decisions and this 715 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 3: is what the roster looks right and like right now. 716 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 3: Was just very honest about all of that and spoke 717 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: to how he felt about the group and basically said, 718 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: you know, eventually like how can you not know about 719 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: you know, how did you not know about this player 720 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: emerging or somebody like breaking out or coming through. I'm 721 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: paraphrasing that part a little bit, but basically as a 722 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: challenge like, look, this is, this is, this is you 723 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 3: know the team we have. But I have the belief 724 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 3: in this group that you know, we have guys who 725 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: can step up and challenge external expectations and potentially do 726 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: something special. And when you've seen guys like Kobe Puka, 727 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 3: Kevin Dotson, the list could go on, you know, kind 728 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: of emerging and playing a part in bringing that to life. 729 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 3: To me, that's something that's been really special about this 730 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 3: group achieving what they have to this point. I guess 731 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: seeing that come to fruition basically. 732 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well said all right, well, our last regular season 733 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: edition between the Horns. But the great news is we 734 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: will see you again next week and hopefully all the 735 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: way through until February. For Stu Jackson for to Marco 736 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: far I'm JB. 737 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: Long. 738 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us for this edition Between the 739 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: Horns as always presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers. 740 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: Next stop the South Bay, Santa Clara Levi Stadiums. 741 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: I'm not