WEBVTT - Bloomberg Law Brief: DeBlasio Plans Rikers Shutdown (Audio)

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's time for our daily Bloomberg Law Brief, exploring

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<v Speaker 1>legal issues in the news. Today, Bloomberg Law host June

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<v Speaker 1>Grossoe discusses New York Mayor Bill de Blasio's plan to

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<v Speaker 1>shut down the prison complex on Rikers Island. She speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to Michael Mushlin, a professor at Pace University Law School,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jonathan Blank's, a researcher at the Keto Institute. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>begin with both of your reactions to do Blasio's plan.

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<v Speaker 1>I think his plan is correctly identifies a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the problems with Rikers and jail's generally. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect plan, but the goals, the goals that he lifted to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, find different ways to reduce the number of

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<v Speaker 1>people that are going to be in there in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place, is very laudable. Um. I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that isn't quite mentioned in the plan, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think people need to think about, is do you

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<v Speaker 1>think a cage as a remedy to social wills is

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the best thing? It should be the last, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the last remedy uh for people who commit crimes. If

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<v Speaker 1>people can be released on their own recognizance, as the

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<v Speaker 1>people are. That's good, but there's still a very large

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<v Speaker 1>population there that are subject to these abuses, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think finding more and better ways, some of which were

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<v Speaker 1>outlined in his plan are, is a very good step forward.

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<v Speaker 1>The plan calls for reducing the inmate population down to

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand. New York City had a record low crime

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<v Speaker 1>rate last year. So Michael, how will that be done? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I think that it's important to point

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<v Speaker 1>out that most of the people on Rikers Island have

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<v Speaker 1>not been convicted of any crime. They're they're being held

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<v Speaker 1>while awaiting trial. It's also important to note that that way,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that over two thirds of them only spent about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty days in Rikers Island. So the notion of this

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<v Speaker 1>is we're not talking about a prison where people have

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<v Speaker 1>been convicted and and they're being sent to They're being

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<v Speaker 1>sent to prison for rehabilitations or punishment for for for

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<v Speaker 1>safety of the community. So that's one thing to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>And so really the way so and that short period

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<v Speaker 1>of time that so many people spend there may not

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<v Speaker 1>seem that significant, but it's a highly disruptive, it's highly expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're punishing people who haven't been convicted. That's Michael

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<v Speaker 1>motion And, a professor at Pace University Law School, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Blanks, a researcher at the Cato Institute, speaking to

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