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Speaker 1: even type your passwords in your notes and your phone

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Speaker 1: like it has to be written on a piece of

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Speaker 1: you have to like protect these things. But but anyways, um,

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Speaker 1: so thank goodness for him. I was even now, it's

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Speaker 1: still a little difficult. That's the main thing for me

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Speaker 1: is that it's difficult, Like you have to go from

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Speaker 1: one website to another, and you have to use a

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Speaker 1: certain you can't use so far, you have to use

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Speaker 1: this other like browser, so you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It is a little complicated in that aspect. But that's

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Speaker 1: why you just have to know. Maybe I'll do a

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Speaker 1: video one day. I don't know, we'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna teach you guys. I'm gonna help you guys.

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Speaker 1: But it was for my boyfriend. If it wasn't for him,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I would have one, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: because he's the one that walked me through it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's very complicated. We have the number one v R

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Speaker 1: a R token in the world, right, so when you

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Speaker 1: go to corn market cap you see that Seek is

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Speaker 1: the number one r air token and we've been that

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Speaker 1: for months because we really simplify the process for people

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Speaker 1: to be able to get to their content, be because

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Speaker 1: our goal of integrating with the blockchain is the fact

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Speaker 1: that we made it super easy for artists one to

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Speaker 1: be able to track when we sold tickets for them,

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Speaker 1: and then also for users to be able to buy,

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Speaker 1: you know, to Seek to do whatever they need to

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Speaker 1: do with in a very very easy and secure way

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Speaker 1: because for a lot of music fans, they're new to

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Speaker 1: the whole process, so we don't expect people to figure out,

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Speaker 1: you know, meta masks and this one and that one.

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Speaker 1: It just it's a bit intimidating that way exactly. It is.

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Speaker 1: That's the word. It's intimidating. So I'm glad that that

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Speaker 1: it's secrets. It's a lot easier. So you guys, if

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Speaker 1: you guys are looking and you have a lot of

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Speaker 1: questions and stuff like that, and you want to buy

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Speaker 1: I think that's awesome. That's for me. I think that's

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Speaker 1: one of the main things why I haven't pushed as

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Speaker 1: much because it is difficult to get your n f

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Speaker 1: T But any who are there any n f T

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Speaker 1: s that are like right now, like hot ones that

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Speaker 1: I've been hearing a lot about. I think it's World

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Speaker 1: of Women. It's like, Wow, there's a lot that's happening

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Speaker 1: with that. I've been hearing a lot about that. There's

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Speaker 1: another set of n f T s that are actually

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Speaker 1: they sold it in different places. It's called mind Chill

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Speaker 1: Guardians and these are so so beautiful. These are like

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Speaker 1: beautiful Guardians, like I think the Guardian Angels. That's what

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Speaker 1: I think. But I don't know if they just call

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Speaker 1: them guardians, But I don't know, but we have that

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Speaker 1: coming and each of them is also unique. But I

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Speaker 1: would say, yeah, I like the whole World of you

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Speaker 1: know women, the whow and that's also available and Open Sea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are some of the ones to check out and

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Speaker 1: just try it out and buy something cheap. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: start with something yeah cheap. You know, you don't have

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Speaker 1: to go all crazy. Do you feel like the main

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Speaker 1: creator as the investors are our mel I went to

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Speaker 1: this n f T party in Miami, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like there weren't a lot of women in the space. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a lot of women in this space.

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Speaker 1: You know. I found out about the world of women

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Speaker 1: through Randy Zuckerberg. You know, we did a thing on

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Speaker 1: n f T S and she has a lot of

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Speaker 1: information on n f T S. Also, I think she

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Speaker 1: also has an n f T called a hug. But

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Speaker 1: I haven't met a lot of women in the n

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Speaker 1: f T And we're creators, you know. So I just

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Speaker 1: hope that a lot of people will venture into the space.

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Speaker 1: If you're a creator, just try and put it out there,

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Speaker 1: find someone you know to help you. And then also

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Speaker 1: know that it's not rocket science, right, because I think

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Speaker 1: like even the name itself is intimidating to some people,

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Speaker 1: Like they're like, well, what's a non fungible token? If

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember or know how to say the word,

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Speaker 1: why am I gonna try to put my money in it?

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Speaker 1: So it's just a digital receipt, right, It's a verifiable

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Speaker 1: digital receipt that you have, and so it's not that complicated.

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Speaker 1: So we just try it out. And I think that

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Speaker 1: it's so important to get more women because I feel

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Speaker 1: like the space it's still very very male dominated, which

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Speaker 1: makes it difficult to you know, get funding for projects

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Speaker 1: and stuff for for other women. Why do you think

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Speaker 1: there aren't more women in the space. It just goes

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Speaker 1: back to the whole tech industry, I think because the

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Speaker 1: tech industry has always been like a boys club. So

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Speaker 1: when you have a boys club and people are meeting

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Speaker 1: and writing ideas on papers, and those are the things

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Speaker 1: that they're funding. So access to capital hasn't been great

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Speaker 1: for women. So if they can't access capital, then they

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Speaker 1: can create these companies and then they can bring more

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Speaker 1: people in. And so I think that that's a big

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Speaker 1: part of it. And for us, it's super super important

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Speaker 1: to be inclusive. So we have a launch pad that's coming.

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Speaker 1: We haven't decided what the amount is going to be,

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Speaker 1: but most likely we would like to have a fund

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Speaker 1: that's you know, ten million plus that will be focused

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Speaker 1: on bringing more diverse founders into creating in the virtual world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, And I think maybe as as women

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Speaker 1: were very we can be sometimes frugal, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we're we're we asked more questions and we're a little

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Speaker 1: bit more I don't know, have the correct word is skeptical.

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Speaker 1: But men are just like more risk takers, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Maybe, but women are creative, you guys,

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Speaker 1: We are creative. We create life, Okay literally, So let's

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Speaker 1: get into the space. That's just my personal opinion. I

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Speaker 1: knew a lot A lot of people still don't know

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Speaker 1: too much about n f T S in the virtual world.

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Speaker 1: But I'm glad. I'm glad that we were able to

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Speaker 1: talk about it, and that I'm talking to a female here.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. So Mary, before we go, what do you

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Speaker 1: feel like? What do you see the future like? How

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Speaker 1: do you see the future in the virtual world? Um,

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Speaker 1: I think that everything that we're doing today is going

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Speaker 1: to have like a digital parallel. You know, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have our digital twans avatars. You know, people are any

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Speaker 1: buying Gucci shoes and what have you for their avatars.

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Speaker 1: So virtual is the future, and there's a whole lot

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Speaker 1: more that we're going to be doing in the virtual world.

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Speaker 1: So the future is now and this is just a

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Speaker 1: small glimpse of what it's going to be like, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is going to replace what we

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Speaker 1: do in the real world. So we're not bringing case

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Speaker 1: stet's into web three point. Oh it's gonna be you know,

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Speaker 1: digital is going to be MP three. So think about

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Speaker 1: that when you're thinking about the future of art and

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Speaker 1: fashion and everything. It's going digital. It definitely is. I agree.

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Speaker 1: And Mary, please share your socials, your website, anything that

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Speaker 1: you'd like the listeners to know a little bit about

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Speaker 1: you and seek sure, thank you. So I'm on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: So Instagram c v R c e k v R,

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Speaker 1: and then Twitter is also just seek c e K.

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Speaker 1: So check us out, follow you know for updates and

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Speaker 1: you're going to hopefully find out when we put your

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Speaker 1: n f T out and then we put out some

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Speaker 1: of the great n f T s that we have coming.

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Speaker 1: So just stay up to date with us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: or I love that. Thank you so much, Mary, and

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Speaker 1: you guys now you know how to keep up with

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Speaker 1: our beautiful guest here, Mary Spio, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: And before you guys go, as you know, I have

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Speaker 1: a quote that I share with you guys every Monday.

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Speaker 1: I have a motivational quote. So here it is. Life

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Speaker 1: moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around

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Speaker 1: once in a while, you could miss it. You guys,

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Speaker 1: don't miss it, don't miss it. As always, Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for being a part of this conversation, Chickens

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Speaker 1: and chill. I will see you guys next Monday. This

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Speaker 1: is a production of My Heart Radio and Michael Dura

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