1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Nftees. I just got into the space. I want to 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: say about a year ago, I had heard about bitcoin 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: and crypto and all that stuff. I knew that this 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: was going to happen, and now it's like, really there. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: It's an opportunity to be part of a world that's changing. 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: So why do you think there are more women in 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: this space? 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: I think because the tech industry has always been like 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: a boys club, so access to capital hasn't been great 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: for women. 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cheeky's and Chill podcast. Thank you so much 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: for dropping by. Today's topic is super interesting, but a 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: little complicated to understand if I'm being honest, and if 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: Jesus is something most of us have heard of but 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: we don't really know about. So I'm hoping we can 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: clarify some stuff for you today. So let's do it. 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: This is Cheeky's and Okay. So we have a really 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: great guest with us today. Her name is Mary Spio, 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: founder and CEO of the virtual reality company Seek. She's 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: really been at the forefront of NFTs and bitcoin and 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to welcome her to the show. Hi, Mary, 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: how are you? Thank you so much for being here. 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: Good, good, good, good, Thank you so much for having 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: me on this show. 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: So I know we have a lot to talk about, 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: but first I want to hear a little bit more 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: about you. I know you grew up in Ghana, right, 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit more about your 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: upbringing and how you found your way to NFTs. 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: Sure, So it's definitely a long journey. Yes, I grew 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: up in Ghana. Actually I was born in New York, 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: but you know, my parents are from Ghana, so I 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: lived in Ghana and then I came back later on. 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: But my background is an engineering and I've focused a 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: lot on streaming platforms and so, for example, I sold 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: the technology to the Boeing Company for streaming movie these, 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: which was used by Lucasfilms and most of the film industry, Fox, 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: twentieth Century Fox, and the list goes on. And then 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: I created an online video platform for independent movie makers, 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: which then was used more by brands, and so it 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: grew into something that was mainly used by music artists. 42 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: So it's just been like an evolution from being an 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: engineer to the platform and then to the metaverse which NFTs. 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: You know, Bitcoin virtual currencies are just like goes kind 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: of hand in hand with virtual worlds. So that's how 46 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: it's all come together. 47 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: Wow. Can I just tell you, being that you're a 48 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: woman of color, I love everything that you just said, Like, 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: that's amazing. I applaud you. I honestly that's beautiful to 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: see because I'm also a woman of color. You know, 51 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm a Mexicana, and I'm like all about women empowerment 52 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: and the fact that you're an engineering You've done all 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: this and you're in the space I can ask you 54 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: all these questions mean so much to me. 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you. That means a lot to me. 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 57 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited because see NFTs, I just got into the space. 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: I want to say about a year ago, I had 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: heard about bitcoin and crypto and all that stuff, and 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: I've always been one. Like years ago, like I knew 61 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: that this was going to happen, and I just wasn't 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: too sure. And now it's like, really there. I have 63 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: my own NFT. My NFT is part of battle Wave 64 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: twenty three twenty three, so it's a game in the 65 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: virtual world. And I also just purchased some NFTs immune 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: ape and I have a VOX but I don't know 67 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: too much about it. I just know that I believe 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: in it and that I know that that's our future. 69 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: But what is it? 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: NFT? Yes, so, an NFT is really just a digital signature. 71 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: It's kind of like whatever you can imagine when you 72 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: buy it, they have a digital signature which is verified 73 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: by a whole bunch of anonymous people. 74 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Right. 75 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: The way I look at it is that you have 76 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: this receipt for whatever you've purchased that is recorded on 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: this ledger that cannot be tampered with. So whatever it 78 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: is that you buy, it's that virtual receipt for it. 79 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: And then because you have the proof, now you could 80 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: sell it, you could do whatever you want to do 81 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: with it, because you're the only person in the world 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: that has that receipt. 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: Okay. For instance, this is the way I explain it. 84 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: When people ask me and let me know if I'm 85 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: saying it right, I usually tell them NFTs are virtual 86 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: artwork with its own fingerprint. Am I right by saying that? 87 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: Or no? 88 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you are a lot of people, you know, 89 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: associate NFTs with artwork, But now there's so many things, 90 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: like there are digital fashions that are NFTs. You know, 91 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 2: events that are NFTs, so it's a non fungible token, 92 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: and basically that token, it's almost That's why I call 93 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 2: it a receipt because it's like whatever digital thing that 94 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: you're buying, that NFT represents your roof that you own that, 95 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: and you are the only person that has this receipt. 96 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: You know, there is no duplicate of that very thing 97 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: out there. So it could be artwork, it could be 98 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: an avatar, it could be music, it could be anything. 99 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Okay, And who decides how valuable it is? 100 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: It depends, but the community decides, right, So for example, 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: people like why is the board ape worth millions? Because 102 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: the community decides how rare it is and how valuable 103 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: it is. So it's mainly the community. You know. My 104 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: son was saying the other day, it was like, oh, 105 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: you know, kids don't like NFTs. I said why, he said, 106 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: because I don't like their like pixelated little pictures. But 107 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: the value of it is determined by the holders. Yeh. 108 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: And I've seen some great artwork that are NFTs and 109 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: then they're selling for like, you know, one hundred dollars 110 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So the value is determined by 111 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: the holders kind of like artwork, right, why is the 112 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: Mona Lisa worth millions? And then you have another artist 113 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: and might have some great work, so it's the same thing. 114 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: It's kind of like art. The value is determined by the. 115 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: Holders, okay, and how rare are the pieces? 116 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: Ye? Right? 117 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: And it's it's basically a one of one correct. 118 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: Yep, it's one of one exactly. 119 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: Which I like and coming from a person that's I'm 120 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: all about like having physical albums, physical books, and for 121 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: me it was a little difficult. I was like, it's 122 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: not tangible, I can't touch it. But then I started, 123 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the future. We can deny it 124 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: and we can be because there's a lot of skeptics 125 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: of course, and this is why I wanted to talk 126 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: about it, because I want to inform people and I 127 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: want them to be like, well, I heard it first 128 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: with Cheeky's and you know what I mean, like, because 129 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: this is something I truly believe in, because my boyfriend's 130 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: really into it and he's in town Star. And then 131 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: there's even planets, you guys, like planets, and you can 132 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: buy land in the virtual world and you can even 133 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: rent it out, and there's even artists, you guys that 134 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: are having concerts like artists like myself, but then they 135 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: put you in the virtual world and you have a 136 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: concert inside of this virtual world. I don't allow us 137 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: to explain it, right. 138 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: Mary, exactly, that's exactly it. I love that you have 139 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: your NFT coming. I would like to learn more about it, 140 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna make sure I grab one. I hope 141 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: it's going to be more than just one of one. 142 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: That's amazing. Love it. 143 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yeah, I want to do more. 144 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: I have a few ideas for NFTs right now. I 145 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: just want to get like really informed and get my 146 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: own and like you know what I mean, Like I'm 147 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: starting to just know a little bit more about it. 148 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: But thank you. I know you have a company, right 149 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: you have SEK So can you tell us a little 150 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: bit about Seek and have you guys done NFTs for 151 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: artists and stuff like that, or like, who have you 152 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: done something for. 153 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: So Seek we are a streaming platform for virtual events 154 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: and experiences, but we empower artists with the tools that 155 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: they need to create NFTs virtual events. You mentioned about 156 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: you know, having land and planets and all of that, 157 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 2: and some of the artists that we've worked with, Lady 158 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: Gaga Tami Lovado. We just had a release with Daddy 159 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: Yankee and Litho mc cassidy nice, and then we have 160 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: another award show that's coming where we're creating NFTs for Fonsie, 161 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: Luis Fonsie and Paul Abduel. So we have a lot 162 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: of unique stuff. So in addition to the virtual concerts 163 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: and avatars and all that fun stuff that we do 164 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: in the virtual world, we also work with artists to 165 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: create their own NFTs and virtual concerts. 166 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it's so cool. So maybe like you 167 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: guys can help me out because with all these ideas 168 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: I have in my head. 169 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: I would love to, would love to, would love. 170 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: To, Yeah, because a lot of people still, especially in 171 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: like my demographic, don't understand, you know, And I know 172 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: it's going to take some time. I do feel like 173 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: I want to do a whole video one day and 174 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: speak about it. And I'm glad we're doing this podcast. 175 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: I feel like this is the first step of doing 176 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: that and making sure people understand this world, because you guys, 177 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: it's coming and it's coming hard. If you guys haven't noticed, 178 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: we have the Staples Center here. That was the Staples 179 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: Center now it is the crypto We have Facebook that 180 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: just became meta, so it's like it's coming you guys. 181 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: They're sprinkling it on us, so don't don't be the 182 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: last to find out. 183 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we noticed the Super Bowl was allcrypto dot com. 184 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: Lebron James's doing a Dad Snoop Dogg in Miami. The 185 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 2: whole arena is FTX arena. Yeah. 186 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: So right now that Mary and I are talking about 187 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: creating my own NFT. So it's basically something I have 188 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: this idea and I can't say yet because you know, 189 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't like to say it until it's you know, 190 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: in concrete. But I have this idea of NFTs and basically, 191 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: my listeners, my my boss bees, my fans, you guys 192 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: will be able to purchase. I would sit down with 193 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: like an artist and create these things and it would 194 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: be art for you guys that you guys get to own, 195 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: and I can sell it anywhere from whatever price I want, 196 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: right Mary, it could be ten dollars, one hundred dollars whatever, yes, perfect, 197 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: and then you guys just decide if you want to 198 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: purchase it, if you like it, and it can become 199 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: very very valuable in the future. Why do you think 200 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: Mary that NFTs were created in the first place. 201 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: So NFTs were created because we're shifting into the digital world. 202 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: And I think twenty twenty with the lockdowns is really 203 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: when the shift happened. Because we've been talking about metaverse, 204 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: we've been talking about all these different things. That it 205 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: was during the pandemic that people realize, well, we can't 206 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: tour anymore, so we need to be able to have 207 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: a virtual experience and sell tickets, right, virtual touring, And 208 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: as part of that, people wanted to be able to 209 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: verify their ticket sales. There's so many things that are happening. 210 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 2: People were selling digital art and they were like, wait, 211 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: how do I know that this is the only copy 212 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: that's out there, because there's so many fakes out there. 213 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: And so the whole concept of NFTs, this concept of 214 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: having this immutable ledger where whatever we record on it, 215 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: there's only one person that holds it and the public 216 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 2: knows because it's validated. That whole concept came out of 217 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 2: our evolution, us evolving from Web two point zero to 218 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: going into this virtual web where we're living, we're playing, 219 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: and we're doing all these different things. So it's really 220 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: why Facebook is not meta because we are entering into 221 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: the metaverse era and everything is going to be tracked 222 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 2: that we value, you know, That's why it's been adopted. 223 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: That's why it's growing so much. 224 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I think. I think it just 225 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: all started like mainly like really hardcore in twenty twenty 226 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: and because now everyone wants to do this contactless everything. 227 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: Even I feel like the dollar is losing its value 228 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: little by little. We know that, and eventually it's going 229 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: to be gone completely and everything's just going to be 230 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: completely virtual. I feel like bitcoin and crypto and all 231 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: this virtual money that we have is that's going to 232 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: be ruling the future. And I honestly think that we'll 233 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: get to the point where we'll be able to enter 234 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: these games Like I watched this movie. I don't remember 235 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: the name of it, but you would put on those. 236 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 2: Other vr gonfec like Ready Player. 237 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: One, Yes, Ready Player one, that one, and you get 238 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: to like, I really think that we're gonna be able 239 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: to do that, like be inside of the video game, 240 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: you guys, like for real, Like yeah, like go to 241 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: work like that, Like I'm gonna be doing my concerts 242 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: here at home, and you guys are gonna be able 243 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: to be watching me, but I'm gonna be in my 244 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: house doing it. You know, it's gonna be crazy. You know, 245 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: I talk about this and people think I'm crazy. There's 246 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: a lot of skeptics. What do you say to them? 247 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 2: You know, what I tell them is that it's an 248 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: opportunity to be part of a world that's changing, and 249 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: it's something that it's not a gimmick. I think early on, 250 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: because most of VR and the metaverse was really about gaming, 251 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: people didn't realize that there's so many other things that 252 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: you could do. Ultimately, I think the quality of it 253 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: is going to be similar to like when you go 254 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 2: to an amusement park where they have these VR experiences 255 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: where you have this massive world and all of that 256 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: and you're inside it and it feels so real. That's 257 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: where things are going, and so it's going to be 258 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: natural and a lot of the stuff that we're used to, 259 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: whether it's a keyboard and computer, all of that, all 260 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: of that is disappearing into the glasses and pair of 261 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: glasses that you put on and then the whole world 262 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: is in front of you. And then when it comes 263 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: to NFTs, when I found out about Ethereum, it was 264 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: thirty two dollars, you know. I know some of my 265 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: friends were talking about it and some of the things 266 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: that they were dealing with it. I didn't really pay 267 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: attention to it till later on when it was like 268 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty dollars, three hundred and fifty dollars. 269 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: And today ethereum, just one ethereum is worth three thousand dollars. 270 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's definitely happening. 271 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. So it's happening. It's not a fad, 272 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: it's not a phase. It's it's the evolution, is the 273 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: natural life evolution. So we went from text and pictures 274 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: were like web one point oh with sites like you know, Amazon, 275 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: and then web two point oh with video where we 276 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: were watching from outside. Yeah, and people want to evolve 277 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: with the media. They don't just want text in pictures, 278 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: they didn't just want video now they want to be 279 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: inside the content. And that's why this is all happening. 280 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and I feel like, little by little it's 281 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: been happening. You know. Even like if we talk about music, 282 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: we used to have cassettes and then they went into CDs, 283 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: and now all we have is it's just digital. Everything's digital. 284 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: All of our music, So it's just that even on 285 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: a smaller scale. But I went to check e Cheese 286 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: the other day, and before it was like you had 287 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: the little tokens and you would put them in the machines. 288 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Now they give you a little watch for the kids 289 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: that they wear and they just touch the thing. It's 290 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: like contactless, you know, and things like that where I'm like, 291 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: this is happening. And the reason I want to talk 292 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: about NFTs is because I truly believe in them. And again, 293 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: I still have a lot of information and a lot 294 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: of things that I want to learn, and I want 295 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: to get into this space a little more. But I 296 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: don't want you guys to jump on the bandwagon too late. 297 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: It's better to start sooner rather than later. Just FYI. 298 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: And if even if you start with one or two, 299 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: like just start collecting them before you know it, it's 300 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: going to grow. It's inevitable, it's going to happen. But 301 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: do you think that they're good investments? Mary? Like, I mean, 302 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna say yes, But you know, I ask 303 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: these questions for my listeners. 304 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not a broker or I cannot give 305 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: investment advice, but in terms of being part of something 306 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: that's growing. Like for myself, imagine when I found out 307 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: about Ethereum, right, and it was around thirty two dollars. 308 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: Imagine if I had decided to buy some Ethereum where 309 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: it would be today when it's three thousand dollars and 310 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: it's the same thing. And you make a great point 311 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: for people that are saying, oh, well, this is not happening. 312 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: It's like somebody is telling you about MP three's right, 313 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: and you are like, Nope, I'm just gonna stick with 314 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: my cassette player because cassettes are not going anywhere. Yeah, 315 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: that's exactly what the analogy. 316 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: It's like exactly. That's why I was like, you know what, Yes, 317 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: it's been happening little by little, and then twenty twenty 318 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: came and I feel like it catapulted us into like 319 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: it was a big step into where we're going. That's 320 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: why I truly believe it. If you have ten thousand 321 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: dollars that you want to invest, you can. You can 322 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: do it in stocks. Okay, fine, but you never know 323 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: it goes, you know what I mean? Like for me, 324 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: I feel like this is the future. I feel like 325 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: if you leave have it in the bank and it's 326 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: just sitting there. You're not making a lot of money. 327 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: It takes years and years for you to see anything, 328 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, So I would suggest to do it in 329 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: the virtual world. That's just my personal suggestion because you guys, 330 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: if you have it in the banko, you know, it 331 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: just it just doesn't. 332 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: No, it's a great opportunity. This is a life changing moment, 333 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: and this time in history is not going to come 334 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: back in our generation. And so I'm so glad that, 335 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: you know, even though I felt like, wow, I found 336 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: out of a byetherium when I was thirty two dollars, and 337 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: then I kind of came into the awareness of it 338 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: when it was around three hundred and twenty, and then 339 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: with where it is now, So we are definitely at 340 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: a time in our history that I doubt, very seriously 341 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: that a lot of people they think that they're too 342 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: late to the game because bitcoin and all this stuff 343 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: is so expensive. But you know, and especially for women, 344 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: if you're looking at a business, if you're looking to 345 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: start something and create something of value, definitely look into 346 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 2: the virtual world. 347 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. And I just have to 348 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: ask this, you know, nothing is quote unquote perfect, right, 349 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: So is there anything that worries you or anything that 350 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: you could say, Okay, this is the downside or the 351 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: con of NFTs. 352 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: The biggest thing with NFTs is because it's the trend. 353 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: You know, when you have fifth and sixth graders asking 354 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: about NFTs and you know it's a trend, right, And 355 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: so there are a lot of scammers out there too. 356 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 2: There are a lot of people out there that are 357 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: scamming people. So you have to be careful. You have 358 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: to do your research and make sure that you are, 359 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: you know, looking to be part of something that has 360 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: some kind of mission, some kind of utility. If you 361 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: look at a token or a coin, you have to 362 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: think about what is this thing doing, where's the community 363 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: around it, who else is involved with it? Because a 364 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: lot of times there are people out there that will 365 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 2: pump something and then get people to buy it, and 366 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: then they dump it and then they disappear. So I 367 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: think that that's the biggest risk with NFTs right now. 368 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: It's a lot of fakes out there, So you got 369 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: to make sure that if you're going to step into 370 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: the world of NFTs and be a collector, that you're 371 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: going to credible places right, that have verified people on 372 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: there and that you're not just blindly going into it. 373 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: That's great advice because I have seen that, and there's 374 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: shows on Netflix, you guys that you can look and 375 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: I just watched one the other day about a scammer 376 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: or whatnot. So I think that for me would be 377 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: like the only con that there are a lot of 378 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: fakes out there, so just be careful. And do you 379 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: have any tips as to where they can find an NFT, 380 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: like where to start. 381 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: Well, they can start with yours. Where are you going 382 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: to have it available? Are you going to be like. 383 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: Right now? Well, my first NFT, I think I dropped 384 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: it about a year ago. So that's the only one 385 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: I have in this game, so they they sold out, 386 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't have any more. But I want to do 387 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: like another line another. I have two different ideas, so 388 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Here's the thing. It's a little difficult 389 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: I think right now to purchase NFTs, like you have 390 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: to go through like coinbase and then to open Sea, 391 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: and like I want to find a way to make 392 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: it easier for people to just kind of use their 393 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: credit card just because everyone's so used to just either 394 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: swiping up or now clicking on a link. For me, 395 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: especially in my demographic, I want to make it as 396 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: easy as possible for them. So that's like my whole 397 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: thing trying to figure that out. 398 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure the biggest thing that you know, 399 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: it's that we're doing because for music concerts, right, even 400 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: when we started with VR, we created our own VR 401 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: headset because a lot of the headsets are that we're 402 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 2: so complicated, and it's the same thing with NFTs and 403 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: this one and that one. So we've made it super 404 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 2: easy because the ce coin itself, the SEAK token is 405 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: just the inap currency. It's no different than if I'm 406 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: buying tokens on roadblocks or on any of these games. 407 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: That's how simple we've made it. So you buy your 408 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: package and then you use your package to buy whatever 409 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: you want to buy. If it's a painting, if it's 410 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: a concert, all of that you don't even know all 411 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: the stuff that's going on in the background. The biggest 412 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: difference with us putting everything on the blockchain is the 413 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: fact that people are used to when they make a transaction, 414 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: maybe it takes a millisecond and then it's done. But 415 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: when you're purchasing something that's on the blockchain. It might 416 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: take like maybe ten seconds or twenty seconds, so they 417 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: just wait a little bit because the transactions have to 418 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: be recorded and validated. But other than that, everything is 419 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: very straightforward. You just go on the website and you 420 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: could top up with getting more tokens to do whatever 421 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: you need to do, because otherwise it's just way too complicated. 422 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: I was actually going to ask you, what was your 423 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: process like buying your first NFT. 424 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, thank goodness for my boyfriend. He has like 425 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: a really good friend, one of his best friends, that 426 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: is in this world, he is a millionaire in the 427 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: virtual world. He has land. He started really really like 428 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: early on. So he's the one that like tips us 429 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: off and helps us and says, you know, buy these 430 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: or whatnot. But thank goodness for him that he's the 431 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: one that helped me open my open sea account and 432 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: I learned how to use Coinbase and stuff like that 433 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: because you have to go through Coinbase transfer money from 434 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: your bank account to Coinbase. It's all very very protected 435 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: and you shouldn't write down. That's one thing. Once you 436 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: open your Coinbase and stuff like that, don't even type 437 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: your passwords and your notes and your phone, like it 438 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: has to be written on a piece of paper buried somewhere, 439 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like you have to 440 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: like protect these things. But anyways, so thank goodness for him. 441 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: I was Even now, it's still a little difficult. That's 442 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: the main thing for me is that it's difficult, Like 443 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: you have to go from one website to another, and 444 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: you have to use a certain you can't use the 445 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: far you have to use this other like browser. So 446 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It is a little complicated 447 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: in that aspect. But that's why you just have to know. 448 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do a video one day. I don't know, 449 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out, but I'm going to teach you guys. 450 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to help you guys. But it was for 451 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: my boyfriend. If it wasn't for him, I don't think 452 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: I would have one, to be honest, because he's the 453 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: one that walked me through it. 454 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very complicated. We have the number one VRAR 455 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: token in the world, right so when you go to 456 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: corn market cap, you see that cecause the number one 457 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: be r R token And we've been that for months 458 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: because we really simplify the process for people to be 459 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: able to get to their content because our goal of 460 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: integrating with the blockchain is the fact that we made 461 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: it super easy for artists one to be able to 462 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: track when we sold tickets for them, and then also 463 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: for users to be able to buy you know, the 464 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 2: seek to do whatever they need to do with in 465 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 2: a very very easy and secure way because for a 466 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: lot of music fans, they're new to the whole process, 467 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 2: so we don't expect people to figure out, you know, 468 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: meta mask and this one and that one is just 469 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: it's a bit intimidating that. 470 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: Way exactly it is. That's the word. It's intimidating. So 471 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm glad that that it secrets. It's a lot easier. 472 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: So you guys, if you guys are looking and you 473 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of questions and stuff like that, and 474 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: you want to buy your first NFT, then you guys 475 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: have seek. I think that's awesome. That's for me. I 476 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: think that's one of the main things why I haven't 477 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: pushed as much because it is difficult to get your NFT. 478 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: But AnyWho, are there any NFTs that are like right now, 479 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: like hot one, that you think are good to buy? 480 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: You're the most popular ones. 481 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 2: I've been hearing a lot about I think it's World 482 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: of Women. It's like, Wow, there's a lot that's happening 483 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: with that. I've been hearing a lot about that. There's 484 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: another set of NFTs that are actually coming to seek. 485 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: But these guys sold like the first set, they sold 486 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: it in different places. It's called mind chill Guardians and 487 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: these are so so beautiful. These are like beautiful Guardians, 488 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: like I think the Guardian Angels. That's what I think. 489 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: But I don't know if they just call them guardians, 490 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: but I don't know. There are, but we have that 491 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: coming and each of them is also unique. But I 492 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: would say, yeah, I like the whole world of you 493 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: know women, the wow and that's also available open see. Yeah, 494 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: those are some of the ones to check out and 495 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 2: just try it out and buy something cheap. 496 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, start with something yeah cheap. You know, you 497 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: don't have to go all crazy. Do you feel like 498 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: the main creators and investors are our mel I went 499 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: to this NFT party in Miami, and I felt like 500 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: there weren't a lot of women in the space. 501 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't seen a lot of women in this space, 502 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: you know. I found out about the World of Women 503 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: through Randy Zuckerberg. You know, we did a thing on 504 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: NFTs and she has a lot of information on NFTs. Also, 505 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: I think she also has an NFT called a hug. 506 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: But I haven't met a lot of women in the 507 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: NFT and we're creators, you know, So I just hope 508 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: that a lot of people would venture into this space. 509 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 2: If you're a creator, just try it, put it out there, 510 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: find someone you know to help you. And then also 511 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: know that it's not rocket science, right, because I think 512 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: like even the name itself is intimidating to some people, 513 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: Like they're like, well, what's a non fungible token? If 514 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't even remember or know how to say the word, 515 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: why am I gonna try to put my money in it? 516 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 2: So it's just a digital receipt, right, It's a verifiable 517 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: digital receipt that you have, and so it's not that complicated. 518 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: So just try it out. And I think that it's 519 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: so important to get more women because I feel like 520 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: the space is still very very male dominated, which makes 521 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: it difficult to you know, get funding for projects and 522 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: stuff for other women. 523 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: Why do you think there aren't more women in the space. 524 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: It just goes back to the whole tech industry. I 525 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: think because the tech industry has always been like a 526 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: boys club. So when you have a voice club and 527 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: people are meeting and writing ideas on papers, and those 528 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: are the things that they're funding. So access to capital 529 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: hasn't been great for women. So if they can't access capital, 530 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: then they can create these companies and then they can 531 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 2: bring more people in. And so I think that that's 532 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: a big part of it. And for us, it's super 533 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: super important to be inclusive. So we have a launch 534 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: pad that's coming. We haven't decided what the amount is 535 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: going to be, but most likely we would like to 536 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: have a fund that's you know, ten million plus that 537 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: will be focused on bringing more diverse founders into creating 538 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: in the virtual world. 539 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. Yeah, And I think maybe as women 540 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: we're very we can be sometimes frugal, and you know, 541 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: we're we ask more questions and we're a little bit 542 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: more I don't know if the correct word is skeptical, 543 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: but men are just like more risk takers, you know 544 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. Maybe, but women are creative, you guys, 545 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: we are creative. We create life, Okay, literally, so let's 546 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: get into the space. That's just my personal opinion. I 547 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: knew a lot. A lot of people still don't know 548 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: too much about NFTs in the virtual world. But I'm glad. 549 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we were able to talk about it 550 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: and that I'm talking to a female here. That's amazing. So, Mary, 551 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: before we go, what do you feel like? What do 552 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: you see the future like? How do you see the 553 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: future in the virtual world. 554 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: I think that everything that we're doing today is going 555 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: to have like a digital parallel. You know, we're going 556 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: to have our digital twins avatars. You know, people are 557 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: already buying Gucci shoes and what have you for their avatars. 558 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: So virtual is the future, and there's a whole lot 559 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: more that we're going to be doing in the virtual world. 560 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: So the future is now, and this is just a 561 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: small glimpse of what it's going to be like. And 562 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: a lot of it is going to replace what we 563 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: do in the real world. So we're not bringing castets 564 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: into Web three point zero. It's going to be you know, 565 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: digital's going to be MP three. So think about that 566 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: when you're thinking about the future of art and fashion 567 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: and everything. It's going digital. 568 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: It definitely is I agree, And Mary, please share your socials, 569 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: your website anything that you'd like the listeners to know 570 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: a little bit about you and seek sure. 571 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. So I'm on Instagram, So Instagram CEKVR cee 572 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: k v R, and then Twitter is also just seek 573 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: cee k. So check us out follow so you know 574 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: for update and you're going to hopefully find out when 575 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: we put your NFT out. Yeah, and then we put 576 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: out some of the great NFTs that we have coming. 577 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: So just stay up to date with us on Twitter 578 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: or ig love that. 579 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Mary, and you guys now you 580 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: know how to keep up with our beautiful guest here, 581 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: Mary Spio, Thank you so much. And before you guys go, 582 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: as you know, I have a quote that I share 583 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: with you guys every Monday. I have a motivational quote. 584 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: So here it is. Life moves pretty fast. If you 585 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: don't stop and look around once in a while, you 586 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: could miss it. You guys, don't miss it. Don't miss it. 587 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: As always, thank you so much for being a part 588 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: of this conversation. Cheeky's and Chill. I will see you 589 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: guys next Monday. Mosquerro. This is a production of iHeartRadio 590 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: and Mike Withura Podcast Network. 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