1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe. 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Getty arm Strong and Jetty and no he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: This is what we're down to. 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: This guy is setting up a fake range in order 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: to get a photo op and he shoots a reporter. 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: You look at that picture that he himself released. They 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: are shooting ars at steel targets that are ten yards away. 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: They had reporters standing down range. They have tannerite downrange. 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: It's explosive. I mean if the shrapnel had instead hit 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 3: the explosives, they'd all be dead. 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 5: I saw this video as a guy who shoots guns 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 5: like out in the country. Sometimes you can't have people 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 5: standing down there. Why you're shooting your gun? Who was 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 5: this doing this? 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: That was Josh Holly talking and that was his opponent, 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: whose name is Lucas Kuntz, who shot a reporter accidentally 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: during that photo. 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 5: God, and you shoot somebody accidentally, I assume he's not 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 5: very badly heard that would be the story. But yeah, 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 5: obviously if you graized somebody, you could have very easily 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 5: killed them. 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: But from Kamala Harris to Old assistant coach Walls to 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: Josh Holly's opponent, it's the whole look at me, totin guns. 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm a gun totin guy. Look at me. You can 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: vote for me. It's fine. This guy shoots the. 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 5: Reporter, Jamine, go stand down there and report on my photo. 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 5: Op what No, right behind the target? It's a better angle. 30 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 5: Wow wow wow. 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Hey you may remember it's such a good piece by 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: Charles Fain Layman, America's disorder Problem. I think we talked 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: about this during the One More Thing podcast a couple 34 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and it's a cousin to the arguments 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: made by the who advocate broken the broken windows policies. 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Ruly to Rudy Giuliani before he went and not it's 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: to the New York City that if you allow broken windows, 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: you allow panhandling, h street prostitution, shoplifting. You just you're 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: you're permitting lawlessness to grow and grow and grow, and 40 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: you can reimpose order and civilization by cutting down on 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: some of the little stuff. 42 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: It helps a great deal. 43 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: So anyway, Layman wrote this great piece about America's disorder 44 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: problem that we discussed at fair length. So I'm not 45 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: going to recite it completely. But it's everything from litter 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: and blasting your your stereo to graffiti throw to women 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: selling sex on the street corner, all sorts of stuff. 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: And he also gets into the concept of dumbing down 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: or or what was the term he used. I can't 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: find it, lowering and lowering and lowering the bar on 51 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: what is disorder? And anybody who objects to any of 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: those behaviors that I just mentioned is a racist or 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: a they're trying to gentrify or there or right exactly, 54 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: a prude or a karen or what have you. It's 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: a really good piece of journalism and we'll refeature an 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: under hot links at Armstrong and getty dot com. But anyway, 57 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: so I thought of that when I came across the 58 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: story of this fella. Hi Remonstrat is his name. He's 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: a former New York State senator who I think is 60 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: running for office again, but he was in AOC's district, 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: which has gone to hell by the standards we were 62 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: just talking about. There are open air stolen goods markets 63 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: set up. San Franciscans and Blue Staters will be familiar 64 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: with this concept. Right there by the subway station, the 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: train station. You got young folks who seem to have 66 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: an enormous amount of brand new in packaged merchandise that 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: they're selling. Funny, Meanwhile, the drug store down the street 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: is closed or everything's locked up. You can't get in, uh, 69 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: because there's so much theft. Anyway, you got that, you 70 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: got hookers on the street, you got panhandling, open drug use, 71 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And this guy's against that, and he 72 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: went to AOC's district to talk about it. We've got 73 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: some tape of how that went. Michael will start with 74 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: five and go from there. 75 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 6: Alright, alright, so they're shouting down mister monstrat by chanting, 76 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 6: more chanting, more resources, no more. 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Raids against any sort of law enforcement, and more handouts. 78 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: Here's monster out trying to speak. 79 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 7: We understand that there's a lot of people who have 80 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 7: misguided youths. We're not stopping. This is all community and 81 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 7: within a fight. 82 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: Fore And that's when they started chanting and yelling, and 83 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: they said the following, that's. 84 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 7: Why you're running. 85 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: It takes other people. 86 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 7: You're never gonna get a book. 87 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: Never everybody. 88 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: So he's attempting to walk down the street and they're 89 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: in his face screaming as loud as they can, a 90 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 1: number of things, including sex work is work. 91 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: Hot dogs are dogs? Our new t shirt at Armstrong 92 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 5: in geddy dot com. 93 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: That's right. 94 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Not a response to this, but a response to trans 95 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: women are women. 96 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: Tangent on dogs are dogs. It's a tangent. It just 97 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: reminded me. But sex work is work. Okay, well so 98 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: is making and selling math. But we decided it's illegal society, hitman. 99 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 5: Society has decided it's illegal, and uh, we have with prostitution. 100 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: Also in the dirty deeds and or clandestine operations field, 101 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: they call it wet work, which is kind of gross. 102 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: Josh, why did you even bring that up? No, no, no, 103 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: grow up. 104 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: Killing people, shooting people is called wet work, and you 105 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: could easily chant wet work is work. Wet work is work. 106 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: A chance is not an argument you chant in dufasis. 107 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 5: Why did they call it wet work because people bleed? 108 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets gross. I didn't invent it. I'm just 109 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: telling you. 110 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: So the sex work is work. 111 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 5: Thing of all the things to get enthused about and 112 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 5: put your time behind, make sure you can street prostitution. 113 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: One more clip from the Esteemed Gentleman trying to bring 114 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: order to disorder. 115 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 7: There was a lot of media. There was actually more 116 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 7: cameras than activists, and the majority of the people they 117 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 7: weren't even from this community. But I think what's important 118 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 7: here is that there's obviously a lot of energy, there's anger, 119 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 7: But the fact of the matter is this Roosevelt Avenue 120 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 7: has been under a crime wave. It's an urban crime zone, 121 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 7: and these police officers that we got from the city 122 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 7: and the state troopers are incredibly necessary to just get 123 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 7: a handle on the crime in this community, which has 124 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 7: been unprecedented. We have more bodegas, more brothels than bodegas. 125 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 7: We have rothels and fun of schools next to churches, 126 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 7: twenty four hours, sex workers walking the streets freely at 127 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 7: all hours of the day while parents are taking their 128 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 7: kids to school. 129 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: It's unacceptable, and this guy is the bad guy who 130 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: gets screamed at for trying to do something about that. 131 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: I haven't been to New York during the era of 132 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 5: open prostitution that seems to be going on, so I 133 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 5: don't know how accurate the New York Post pictures are. 134 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure they go out of their way 135 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 5: to make them seem as bad as possible, but they 136 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 5: sure look bad. I mean they look really bad. The 137 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 5: daytime photos of all these women stand around, you know, 138 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 5: perfectly populated areas with stores and cars and people and 139 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: everything like that, just in a way that would have 140 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 5: never happened, not since the seventies anyway. 141 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: And in this story, dudes standing around to have a 142 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: curiously feminine aspect to their appearance. Anyway, I found the 143 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: selection of this section of Looking for Dudes quite a 144 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: few dudes. This last phenomenon, he says, a textbook example 145 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: of defining deviancy down. As police forces have shrunk in 146 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: the criminal justice system decayed since the Great Recession, our 147 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: capacity to do something about disorder has eroded. That erosion, 148 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: of course, has been helped along by political efforts to 149 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: hamstring disorder enforcement. But the erosion has also engendered the 150 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: attempt to define a way disorder as a problem per se. 151 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: If we can't make our cities less disorderly, pretend disorder 152 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: is not a problem. 153 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that actually makes sense. 154 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: As a politically, you have to be able to coming 155 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: off as like some old timey englishmen. Is this civilized 156 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: or is it uncivilized? That's not an unfair question to ask. 157 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: Civilization is cool. It keeps you from getting killed or 158 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: or afflicted with diseases running rampant in open sewers, for instance. 159 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 2: Civilization is good wetwork. 160 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: H Look, when I was young, I underwent some government testing. 161 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: They found a certain moral flexibility, and I embarked on 162 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: an exciting career of unpublicized work for the United States government. 163 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: Here you go. That is paraphrasing one. 164 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Of my favorite speeches from a gross, point blank, a 165 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: hit movie of the late eighties early nineties, John Cusack 166 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: dan Aykroyd, perhaps dan Akroid's greatest film role. 167 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: Oh really, I didn't know. It was terrific in it. 168 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: He's a hit man, He's fantastic. Yeah. So we're twelve 169 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: days out from the presidential election. 170 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 5: We got some nuggets on that we should pass along 171 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 5: with you, and including, once again, what is clearly beyond 172 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 5: a doubt, the closing argument from the Harris campaign. And 173 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 5: I my concern is that this is building up to 174 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 5: an oppo drop that we that's really gonna shake people. 175 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 5: I can't imagine what it would be, but I doubt 176 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 5: we've seen their best stuff. 177 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: Do you think so. 178 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Trump actually has hidden away in Trump Tower Hitler's bones 179 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: and he takes them out a few times a year 180 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: and Genuflex before the. 181 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 5: Or HiT's still alive and he lives in Trump Tower. 182 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 5: It's like, you know, the floor below the pedhouse. 183 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: Wow, that would be surprising. Anyway, We got more on 184 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: that real stuff, not ridiculous stuff like this, this wetwork stuff. Uh, 185 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: stay tuned. 186 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 8: No Democrat talking about a pathway to citizenship an immigration 187 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 8: belief and that the benefits that migrants bring to this country. 188 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: But there's no question that migrants bring. 189 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: America is a country that was built in part by 190 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: immigrant people. 191 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 2: GPS. We're talking about mass deportations. What do you say, 192 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: mat iportations? What's what's you're to stand there? 193 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: We need smart, humane immigration policy in America that includes 194 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: a pathway to citizenship. 195 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 5: So that was from the Telemundo interview. And in case 196 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 5: you didn't follow what was going on there, he was 197 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 5: asking about all the talk of deportation and you know, 198 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 5: all the illegals here in pathway decisions citizenship and for 199 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 5: whatever reason her own brain or this is actually smart politics, 200 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 5: she will not commit to any of these things. 201 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: She just won't. 202 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 5: She wouldn't just say we're not deporting people. She's afraid 203 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 5: to say it. 204 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: I guess she doesn't think she'll get elected saying that, 205 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: or she won't she doesn't think she can get elected 206 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: saying we are going to deport people who are illegally. 207 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: But she never chooses a path, right, she just doesn't. 208 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: She just has her deflecting. 209 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: Kind of Well, just these broad statements of principle, and 210 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: we need effective immigration, but is that reform and blah blah, 211 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: that's all she has her talking point. 212 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 5: But do you think that's her personality or is that 213 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: a political strategy like created by her smart people behind her, 214 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 5: like unfracking that she won't my values haven't changed. 215 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: Well, are you for fracking up? My values haven't changed? 216 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 5: What the F does that mean? So why doesn't she 217 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: just say yes or no on all these things? 218 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: She and her people, who have clearly. 219 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: Come up with a and are tied to a do 220 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: no harm strategy, just deflect. Just put broad, empty vessel 221 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: ish principles out there that people can assume you agree 222 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: with them at least to some extent. 223 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: Take us to end on nothing. Well, it's not working. 224 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: The Wall Street Journal pull out today nationally registered voters 225 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: has Trump up by two. If Trump is up by 226 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 5: two among registered voters, she's down by a three, right, 227 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 5: because she has to be by three to be even. 228 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: Are we assuming an underperformance or an overperformance by Trump? 229 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: Again, we're assuming that things will be the polls. 230 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're assuming things will be the same as the 231 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 5: last couple of times around in terms of well, it's 232 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 5: similar to George Bush. And it's been this way for 233 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 5: Republicans for a while just because of the way California is, 234 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 5: in New York is, in a couple of other states, 235 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 5: you have to win by about three or more as 236 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 5: a Democrat to win the electoral college. AnyWho, So she's 237 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 5: behind a couple of points in the electoral college. And 238 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 5: then this is the most amazing thing. Do you have 239 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 5: a favorable view of Trump or Harris? Her numbers are 240 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 5: going down. Trump's are the highest they've ever been. 241 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: That's extraordinary to me. That's that speaks volumes. 242 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 5: So now, Kamala Harris, the unfavorables are up by our 243 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 5: She's unfavorable by eight points, fifty three to forty five. 244 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: Unfavorable. Trump for the first time ever has. 245 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 5: Uh He's at fifty two fifty two approval, forty eight disapproval. 246 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 5: He's the most popular he's ever been being, which is 247 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 5: just I'm amazed by that. 248 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: And like, in spite of continuing to be an undisciplined jerk, 249 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: being very mediocre in the debate, there's I don't think 250 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: there's much he's done that's that's generated higher positives. It's 251 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a reaction to the incredibly negative perception 252 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: of Kamala Harris, honestly, and and people's continued discussed with 253 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: the democratic machinery, including the media. They know when they're 254 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: being hogged and they don't like it. 255 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt about that. Well, I've 256 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: had that reaction. 257 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 5: I don't like a lot of the things Trump says 258 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 5: or do, but when he's when he's treated the way 259 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 5: he was treated in the debate, when it's you know, 260 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 5: three on one and they fact check him and not her, 261 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 5: and their fact checks are lies, Yeah, that pushes you 262 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 5: into Trump's camp if you're a certain sort of person. 263 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 5: No doubt about the Wall Street Journal said, because they 264 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 5: dug into their polls and asking questions, voters are still 265 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 5: very pissed about inflation, and which is not surprising. Housing 266 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 5: sales are on track for the worst year since ninety five, 267 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 5: so almost thirty years. That's that's that's something. 268 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Not surprised, And those two things are closely tied. You 269 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: poured trillions of dollars on gasoline of gasoline rather on 270 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: an already hot economic fire, which caused the sort of 271 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: rampant inflation to cause the FEDS to not nudge the 272 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: rates upward but raise them way high to try to 273 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: cool it down. And that's absolutely key to the understanding 274 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: the housing market. 275 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: How much time I got, Michael, because this is pretty good. 276 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: Got a minute? Thirty? Okay? Cool? 277 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 5: A number of strategists think the best ad Trump's got 278 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 5: running around the country. And I don't see many of 279 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 5: these political because I don't ever watch commercials on TV. 280 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 5: But is the one mocking Kamala for wanting to pay 281 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 5: for trans surgeries for illegals and she hasn't clearly come 282 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 5: out and said no to that anyway. The Washington Posts 283 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 5: Megan McCardell, who's a conservative columnist for the WAPPA, she 284 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 5: hates Trump, but she said, you have to be in 285 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 5: a pretty thick political bubble not to understand that sex 286 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 5: reassignment surgery for murderers will strike a lot of people 287 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 5: as insane. Though it probably isn't an issue that many 288 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 5: people vote on, it will make them wonder what other 289 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 5: unpopular interest group agendas Harris might push forward if they 290 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 5: give her power. And because Harris hasn't given them much 291 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 5: sense of who she is and what she wants other 292 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 5: than the presidency, it's hard for them to know where 293 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 5: she'll draw the line. But that first sentence from a 294 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 5: WAPPO reporter is pretty true. You'd have to be in 295 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 5: a pretty thick political bubble not to understand that sex 296 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 5: reassignment surgery for murders strikes a lot of people as insane. 297 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: If my neighbor and I are considering buying a vote 298 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: together and sharing it, and he casually mentions, oh, you 299 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: know what I do to relax, I like to torture 300 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: neighborhood cats. 301 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: That's got nothing to do with the boat. But I'm 302 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: not getting in. 303 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: Bed with them right, actually going to do blanking crazy 304 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. 305 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 4: For him to say about Project twenty five is disgraceful. 306 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 4: They know I have nothing to do with it. 307 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: I had no. 308 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 4: Idea what it was. A group of people got together, 309 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 4: they drew up some conservative values, very conservative values, and 310 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 4: in some case perhaps they went over the line, perhaps 311 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 4: they didn't. 312 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: I have no. 313 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: Idea what Project twenty five is, but they use it 314 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 4: and they know it. 315 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: I am a. 316 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 5: Fully believe him, because if it was important, he wouldn't 317 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 5: know about it. 318 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: And it's not important. 319 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: So the whole Project twenty twenty five thing. And I 320 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 1: heard old assistant coach Walls just yesterday. I think it 321 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: was telling people, I'm telling you this Project twenty twenty five. 322 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: He's going to monitor your mistral cycle. You're gonna go 323 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: to jail if you get pregnant. I'm just just ridiculous crap. 324 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: They've made it a big part of the campaign, and 325 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: Trump is disavowed it, and the whole thing to me 326 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: is just it's like watching a bunch of you know, 327 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: people are on drugs running around doing inexplicable things. 328 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 2: Heritage Foundation, conservative think tank. This is what think tanks do. 329 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: They crank out these these massive papers, or in this case, 330 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: groups of papers, nine hundred pages worth of a palette 331 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: of conservative ideas from fairly mainstream conservative to kind of 332 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: out there to banning porn, and I mean just all 333 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: sorts of different stuff, and a fair number of the 334 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: people involved in the Heritage Foundation worked with the Trump 335 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: administration or Trump in one way or another. Okay, that's 336 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: trust me when I say I have no I have 337 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: no pony in this show. I'm just trying to understand 338 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: it like you are. So anyway, the Democrats are trying 339 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: to tie Trump to Project twenty twenty five. He's saying, 340 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell it is. And then this, 341 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: which surprised the hell out of me. This from the 342 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. As Trump's allies began staffing up the 343 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: Transition Team to lay the groundwork for a potential second term, 344 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: they drew a line in the sand. Absolutely anyone associated 345 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: with the Heritage Foundations Project twenty twenty five would be 346 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: barred from working on the team. Even if a brief 347 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: mention of your name in an author's note at the 348 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: end of a chapter is there. That's enough to prevent 349 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: you from getting a job on the transition team. 350 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: We won't touch you. Which is a very strange overreaction 351 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: to me. 352 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 5: Well, I think I think you got to do that 353 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 5: with the election still alive. I mean, after twelve days 354 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 5: from now, if he wins, sure, but if if you 355 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: had anybody even slightly tied to it, whose name came 356 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 5: out that they were part of the team forget it? 357 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: Oh you think so? You think the mainstream media would 358 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: make hay? I mean, obviously they would try. Do you 359 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: think it would stick at all? 360 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 5: I can't believe it's stuck that as much as it has. 361 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 5: I have I have neighbors who have Project twenty twenty 362 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 5: five read it in their yards. 363 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 364 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 5: Tanks for different policies always come out with this sort 365 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 5: of crap. 366 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: A good job by the Democrats. 367 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 5: It's very clever attaching it to Trump and with the 368 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 5: help of the mainstream media getting it to stick. 369 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's good politics, but it's just interesting. 370 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 5: There've always been wacky liberal think tanks that I don't think. 371 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 5: You know, Bill Clinton was necessarily going to follow their dictate, 372 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 5: as if they get to decide what the president does. 373 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the equivalent on the right is the 374 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: various UN commissions have come out with odious plans for 375 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: global government and universally enforced climate change laws that are 376 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: imposed on every country around Earth regardless of the will 377 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: of their people. And again, they are odious, they're horrifying, 378 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: but they'll never happen. So I'm not that concerned about it. 379 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: But okay, so you know what, I think, you're right. 380 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: I think the moment the election's over, they'll say, well, 381 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: Joe Smith at Heritage is like the world's foremost expert 382 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: on municipal finance. So yes, yes, he's listed, as he's 383 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: quoted in Project twenty twenty five. We're not going to 384 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: be so terrified of him that we won't employ it. 385 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 5: Right, What is this like eight hundred pages long, so 386 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 5: it's very very large. Yeah, so you could say I 387 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 5: don't know anything about the rest of Parjak twenty five, 388 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 5: but I wrote the piece on getting porn out of 389 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: so kids can't see it. That's my expertise, which I'm 390 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 5: probably in favor of whatever it is, unless it's against 391 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 5: the First Amendment. 392 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: But you'd have a specific part of it. 393 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 5: It's not like I don't know anything about the stuff 394 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 5: about taxing single Well, a lot of the stuff you've 395 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 5: heard about it's not true. First of all, there's all 396 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 5: kinds of stuff being claimed that twenty twenty five is 397 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 5: in favor of it. 398 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: It's just flat out not true. So stiff talking about it, 399 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: but you have to well, that's. 400 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: The thing, and That's what surprised me so much about 401 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: this article, And I think by continuing on, which I'm 402 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: going to do just for another minute, is reinforcing your argument. Honestly, 403 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: the swift backlash of Project twenty twenty five has left 404 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: hundreds of conservative policy wonks on the sidelines as the 405 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: election nears, and pave the way for the project's biggest competitor, 406 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: a nonprofit run by former Trump administration officials, to play 407 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: a formative role in the official presidential transition operation. 408 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 5: Right, So they turned to something that you probably find 409 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 5: significantly more imbortant than Project twenty twenty five if you're 410 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 5: a lefty exact to staff of their stuff or. 411 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: A coequal or whatever. 412 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've known plenty of people and read plenty of 413 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: people in plenty of think tanks. 414 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 2: And some of the stuff they alreadys thought provoking. But 415 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: that's it. 416 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: The establishment of the Transition Team, which is meant to 417 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: operate as a clearinghouse for Trump's policy plans and personnel picks, 418 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: hasn't stopped outside groups and Trump associates from jockeying for influence, 419 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: prompting confusion and firstration from some of the former president's 420 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: allies who are like dudes. Heritage Foundation offered me a job. 421 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: I took it. I'm the same guy who used to work. 422 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 5: For you, speaking and running for election. George Gascone, who 423 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 5: wants to stay the district attorney in La County, is 424 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 5: going to make this a big announcement at one thirty 425 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 5: LA time today on the Menendez brother's case, which has 426 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 5: become a giant thing because of the Netflix fat thing 427 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 5: and documentary and all that. 428 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: This is a campaign stunt. I think it is. Also. 429 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 5: I think he's going to say they need to stay 430 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 5: in jail to try to seem more normal, to stay. 431 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: In office when he's actually a radical nut job. 432 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: That's when to get Marxist who wants to bring down 433 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: the system by releasing all the criminals. 434 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: Yes, correct, back to Trump in the election. 435 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, if things hold the way they are today, we're 436 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 5: going to know. Well, I'm on the West coast, so 437 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 5: we're watching this on the West coast, so a lot 438 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 5: of the poles will have closed East coast side late afternoon, 439 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 5: like used to happen with presidential elections, they might announce 440 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 5: Trump as won. I mean that very easily could happen 441 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 5: if the polls hold up. The way they are right now, 442 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 5: I am going to I need to buy some more TVs, 443 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 5: some more DVRs. I need to hire some assistance. I 444 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 5: don't want to miss a moment of people wringing their hands, 445 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 5: clutching their pearls and crying on MSNBC and CNN and 446 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: NBC and ABC. I want to watch George Stephanopolish with 447 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 5: his head on the desk, pounding his little fist. 448 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to miss a moment of it. Well 449 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: was it. 450 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the note because it was so 451 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: beautiful the way it was written. There it is Marina 452 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: and San Diego wrote us a email and she ends 453 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: it with the following line. And if we wake up 454 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: January twenty first and Trump is hitler my bad. 455 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, I'll get to that in a second. 456 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: But I want to see I want to Nora O'Donnell 457 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 5: with her hands on her face. 458 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: Ooh, why she didn't look like Nancy Kern. Why. I'm 459 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 2: just I can't wait for all of it. On the 460 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: if we wake. 461 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: Up, David Muhr will stand mute in his tight black 462 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: T shirt and flex pensively. 463 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 5: If it turns out, you know, come late January Trump 464 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 5: is hitler my bad. Yeah, on that I am. Joe 465 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 5: probably agrees, but I'll let you speak for yourself. I 466 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: am fully committed to calling out any crazy s Trump 467 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 5: does if he gets elected and when he's president, I 468 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 5: have no reason to stick with him. I currently prefer 469 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 5: him to Kamala Harris by a mile, but he is 470 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 5: pretty mercurial. 471 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: So who knows absolutely, and if it costs us something 472 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: or everything, that's the way it goes. I mean this 473 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: sounds either ridiculously naive or a false claim, but I 474 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: assure you it is not. I am country before candidate, 475 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: and even country before ratings. 476 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: I don't care. 477 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: I just I care more about the beloved public than 478 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: I do about making more money. 479 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: I was saying about this, Yester, Did you say country 480 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: before ratings? I did? Michael, all right, let's not get ridiculous. 481 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 2: Fair enough, I am part of a team. I understand that. 482 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: Oh I came up with the answer to the whole 483 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: Nobody within a mile of Heritage Foundation is going to 484 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: work here. I should have read the last couple of paragraphs. 485 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: It's a pissing match, pardon me, between Heritage and the 486 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: America First Policy Institute, which is headed up by Linda McMahon, 487 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: a divorced wife of Vince McMahon of the wrestling who 488 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: is the former Small. 489 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: Business Administration chief. She's now co chair Tramp's. 490 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: Trump's Transition team, and so now she wants to tap 491 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: into her guys as staffers for the Trump administration. And 492 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: they are rivals for or for influence and donor cash. 493 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: There are two of the big dogs now among DC 494 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: conservative think tanks. 495 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: Well, we got to play this one more time just 496 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: because it's an extraordinary thing. I think the clip that 497 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: we opened the show with today, can you play it 498 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: one more time? This is Tim Walls. 499 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 5: This is on the whole the closing argument twelve days out, 500 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 5: thirteen days out yesterday from Walls and Kamala I thanks for. 501 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: Many of us. 502 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: The last twenty four hours certainly have been a bit 503 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 4: shaking with the reporting coming out in the Atlantic Donald 504 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 4: Trump's dissension into madness. 505 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes? 506 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 5: I do, Yes, I do so that is we're all 507 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: so used to crazy now after year. 508 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: TF Oh lord, we have a df and drained fascist 509 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: or not day. 510 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: That's the worst kind of fascist. I like the first 511 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: of all, Again, things have been so crazy for so long. 512 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: Now it kinda is a news story that one candidate 513 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: said the other one's a flat out fascist. I mean, 514 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: you go back ten fifteen years, it would have been 515 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 2: insane for Mitt Romney to say Barack Obama's a fascist 516 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: or vice versa. Just nobody would ever say that. 517 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: I am deeply, profoundly ashamed that it's taken to this 518 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: moment in the show for me to come up with this. 519 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: I will punch myself in the face repeatedly when we're 520 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: off the air. The case for Kamala Harris is a 521 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: communist is much more robust than Donald Trump is a fascist. 522 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: And look, Trump has some fascist tendencies because he was 523 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: a CEO and he thinks everybody ought to jump when 524 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: he says jump. Yeah, well grant you that Kamala is 525 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: a damned comedy. 526 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 527 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 5: I realized some of you screaming at your radio or 528 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 5: wherever you play this, well, nobody's ever been a fascist before. 529 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 5: That was one of the candidates, some of you who 530 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 5: think Trump is a fascist. But I had a point 531 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 5: to that all but oh so, and then Walls, I 532 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 5: like walls as a we're all he comes forward to 533 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 5: the microphones we're all a bit shaken by the recent 534 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 5: news that shows Donald Trump has descended in Madison, like 535 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 5: he just read the story like everybody else in the news, 536 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 5: shocked to find out that Trump had said these things 537 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 5: years ago that had already been reported on, and that 538 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 5: this wasn't some coordinated rollout of the whole fascist, deranged. 539 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: Thing that you've been having meetings on for the last 540 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: two weeks. Right, Yeah, okay, assistant Walls, right exactly. 541 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: And he's a DF as it turns out. 542 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd rather see a random drawing for president than 543 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: have you in the office. 544 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 5: Coach, random drawing, not arranged fascist, a deranged fascist. 545 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: Which is, as you say, is the worst guy. Oh no, 546 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: I finished strong. 547 00:29:54,640 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 8: Next, he was last in Detroit former President Obama campaign 548 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 8: with Eminem and he recited he recited a few lines 549 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 8: of lose yourself now. 550 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: Notice my palms are sweating week palms a heaven sweat 551 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: rudders the gunner. That's right, that's right. 552 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 8: The crowd loved it, while Sasha and Malia were like, well, 553 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 8: we lost our votes. 554 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: Embarrassed by father. Part of being oh my, part of 555 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: being a teenager slash early twenty something, I guess universal. 556 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 557 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 5: If I start dancing a little bit in the booth 558 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 5: at the restaurant to the music, Oh boy, my kids 559 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 5: are horrified. My son has actually gotten up and left 560 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 5: and one sight at a different booth before I do. 561 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: Now, that's a gesture exactly. 562 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 563 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: I took pains not to inflict that sort of thing 564 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: on my kids. 565 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: I can't help it. I really enjoy it. That's funny. 566 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: Did we decide what we were going to talk about here? 567 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: I can't remember. We have not We have two minutes, 568 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: we have one minute, there is another minute talking about 569 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about. 570 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 5: I think there's going to be another uh fairly big 571 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 5: drop of something to try to drive the fascist narrative 572 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 5: on Trump. 573 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: I think that'd be my guess. They got an I'm 574 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: strong and get you. 575 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 5: They got another one in the holster that's going to 576 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 5: come out, so be prepared for that. 577 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: I suppose. 578 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 5: I don't know if this is supposed to be an 579 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 5: October surprise, but the woman that Kamala's husband supposedly slapped 580 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 5: back in the day has now done an interview, so 581 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 5: she is out saying her thing. I don't know, in 582 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 5: a normal world, Kamala Harris would have to say something 583 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 5: about that, but I don't think she's going to have 584 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 5: to right right. 585 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 1: Ah, It's hard to believe that the the pace, the 586 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: the the purity of the ridiculousness would get any more 587 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: than it is right now. 588 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: But we do have a while to go twelve days. 589 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: Desperation has a funny way of unleashing the odd, to say, 590 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: the least, the unfortunate, the soon to be regretted. 591 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: It's final. Oh I love this one. News so well. 592 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 8: Your comments and entertain us. 593 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: Yes. 594 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: Closure for the show is that is so good. Here's 595 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: your host for final thought, Getty. 596 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew 597 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: to wrap up the show. There he is our technical director, 598 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: Michael Angelo, pressing the buttons in there. 599 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: He'll lead us off. Michael. You know Trump likes to 600 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: shock the media. 601 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 4: He will have another rally and he will come out 602 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: to Hogan's hero's theme. 603 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 5: Just sit CNN my full uniform, you think, oh my god, no, no, no, no. 604 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: I advise against it. Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman. As 605 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: a final thought, Katie, I just wanted to let you 606 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: guys know I really appreciated that time in the show 607 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: where we were all standing on one leg like flamingos. 608 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, timing ourselves to see how health we are. That 609 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: was good. I'm strong like bull. Are you hitting as 610 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: it turns out? 611 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 4: Jack? 612 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: A final thought for us. 613 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 5: You know, what I've started doing is reading one of 614 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 5: my favorite books of all time at night, like literature, 615 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 5: which is One hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. 616 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 5: I'm rewriting it and just like getting away from the 617 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 5: news and crap during the election and reading something completely unrelated. 618 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 5: I've found that so incredibly soothing the last week. 619 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: That's funny. 620 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: You should mention that my son with whom I trade 621 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: all sorts of tips on art and literature and music 622 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing, recommended a novel and I've 623 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: been reading it in the evening and i look forward 624 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: to it like, yeah, like my favorite team is on 625 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,479 Speaker 1: Monday night football or something. 626 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I've had too. And I think it's 627 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 2: get all excited. I think it's because of the news 628 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: cycle right now, I think, folks, and I'm talking to 629 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: you here. God, we're all worn out, aren't we. Oh 630 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: my god, Holy cal When will it end? 631 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. 632 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: So many people who think so little time go to 633 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Giddy dot com. Pick up a hot dogs 634 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: are Dogs Armstrong and Getty T shirt, drop us a 635 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: note mail bag at armstrung getdy dot com. 636 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: Good hot legs. If we mentioned an article, it's. 637 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 5: There for you to click on and read Tom Clancy novel. 638 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 5: Are you gonna tell us what it is? Or one 639 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 5: of those Patterson things? I will tomorrow join us then, 640 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 5: God bless America. 641 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 2: I'm Strong and Getty. 642 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: It is the most puzzling, wonderful, rewarding thing I think 643 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: we've seen in many, many years. 644 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 2: And I think it's important to use your voice. 645 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 3: Even the particular field in particularly, so let's go with 646 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 3: a bang. 647 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: It is an effort to terrootivate their core. 648 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 2: Boy, I don't know that word. 649 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: That's a terrify and motivate, motivates through terrorist. 650 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 2: That's a good one. You've got to put a little 651 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: TM next to that one. Thank you very much, Armstrong 652 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: and Getty.