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Speaker 1: this election. But first the News.
Speaker 2: Sunday shows one of them. Fox's Maria Barbiromo invited mister
Speaker 2: Trump on and crazy in suit. Let me show you not.
Speaker 3: Let's remember you've got fifty thousand Chinese nationals in this
Speaker 3: country in the last couple of years. There are people
Speaker 3: on the terrorist watch list three hundred and fifty in
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. Like you said, thirteen thousand
Speaker 3: murderers and fifteen thousand rapists.
Speaker 4: What are you expecting?
Speaker 3: Joe Biden said he doesn't think it's going to be
Speaker 3: a peaceful election day.
Speaker 5: Well, he doesn't have any idea what's happening in Rolfers.
Speaker 5: He spends most of his as day sleeping. I think
Speaker 5: the bigger problem is the enemy from within, not even
Speaker 5: the people that have come in and destroying our country
Speaker 5: by the way, totally destroying our country, to towns, the villages,
Speaker 5: they're being inundated, But I don't think they're the problem
Speaker 5: in terms of election. I think the bigger problem are
Speaker 5: the people from within. We have some very bad people,
Speaker 5: we have some sick people, radical left lunatics, and I
Speaker 5: think they're the and it should be very easily handled
Speaker 5: by if necessary, by National Guard or if really necessary,
Speaker 5: by the military, because they can't let that.
Speaker 4: Happen towns and villages.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you feel like it's just taken straight
Speaker 1: from the original German enemies from within. That's us, Jesse,
Speaker 1: that is us. I did take that implication opinion columnists.
Speaker 1: He doesn't like people with dissenting views. And again, look,
Speaker 1: the guy who starts the camps never just uses the
Speaker 1: camps for the immigrants, He also uses them for the people.
Speaker 1: Once you start a camp, it's very hard to sort
Speaker 1: of just you just sort of put everybody in it.
Speaker 4: If history is any guide, I'd love to be wrong.
Speaker 1: I hope to be wrong. Look is not surprising. Trump
Speaker 1: has said stuff like this before, somehow presented to the
Speaker 1: country thinks maybe he's kidding.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Last time he wasn't able to do it because he
Speaker 1: wasn't organized enough. This time, I'd be surprised if he
Speaker 1: was not able to put this whole thing together. And
Speaker 1: this moves us to our next news item, which.
Speaker 2: Is one of the many people who once worked for
Speaker 2: Trump that really are scared of the idea of him
Speaker 2: becoming president again.
Speaker 1: US Army General Mark Milly, you'll remember woke Mark Milly,
Speaker 1: by the way, not very woke, says that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is fascist to the core. I'm sorry, okay, Mark Milly,
Speaker 1: the US Army general who Donald Trump appointed to Chairman
Speaker 1: of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has a warning. It
Speaker 1: is that Donald Trump is fascist to the core. And
Speaker 1: then he says no person has ever opposed more of
Speaker 1: a danger to the United States than the man who
Speaker 1: served as forty fifth president.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: This is the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
Speaker 1: Staff saying this. In a normal world, right, this would
Speaker 1: be on.
Speaker 4: The cover of the New York Times. You will notice
Speaker 4: it is not on the cover of the New York Times.
Speaker 1: In fact, the news cycle today is largely devoted to
Speaker 1: a poor poll for Vice President Harris as opposed to again,
Speaker 1: we're doing exactly what you're not supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1: Mainstream media is covering the odds and not the stakes.
Speaker 1: Once again, twenty three days before possible fascist takeover of
Speaker 1: this country and the mainstream media is covering the odds
Speaker 1: and not the stakes.
Speaker 2: Boy, Yeah, well, in other stories that they're missing. Trump
Speaker 2: was a little waco at the Aurora, Colorado rally. As
Speaker 2: opposed to all the other ones, he was wacko up,
Speaker 2: but this one, I think there was a particular quote
Speaker 2: that was a little little alarming to us. What'd you see?
Speaker 2: Your mind?
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: So there was a lot of questions about why Donald
Speaker 1: Trump was going to Aurora, Colorado. It didn't make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Colorado is a pretty blue state. But
Speaker 1: it became clear when he got there. He is running
Speaker 1: on this idea of bringing back the Alien Enemies Act
Speaker 1: of seventeen ninety eight. So the Alien Enemies Act of
Speaker 1: seventeen ninety eight basically gives the president power to sort
Speaker 1: of go after people who are For example, was used
Speaker 1: during World War Two to in turn the Japanese right
Speaker 1: because the idea there was that people were Japanese were
Speaker 1: not loyal to this country, and so you could put
Speaker 1: them in camps and take all their stuff.
Speaker 4: It's one of the darkest I mean.
Speaker 1: That and Jim Crow are like two of the darkest
Speaker 1: pieces of American history, both of which Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: running for president on. He's running for president on Jim Crow. Right,
Speaker 1: he doesn't say it quite like that, but he kind
Speaker 1: of does. And the Japanese internment camps. So, and you
Speaker 1: have people who want this. I don't want to seem
Speaker 1: hysterical when I say this is so insane. Anyway, So
Speaker 1: Donald Trump went to Aurora to say that the Denver
Speaker 1: suburb has been taken over by Venezuelan gangs.
Speaker 4: This is not true. And now he wants to use.
Speaker 1: This alien Enemy's Act of seventeen ninety eight to basically
Speaker 1: put all of these people in camps. He's going to
Speaker 1: call it Operation Aurora. So, as you know, with the Republicans,
Speaker 1: fighting invisible crime is one of their signatures. And it
Speaker 1: looks like we're going to see more of this unless
Speaker 1: somehow Harris can win this election.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there really was great journalism done around how
Speaker 2: much of a made up issue. This was that was
Speaker 2: just the hysteric fever swamps of right wing citizen journalism
Speaker 2: who made this all come about this issue in Aurora.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yet again, right, we keep seeing this yep.
Speaker 2: So I find this particularly disgusting, which is that House
Speaker 2: Speaker Mike Johnson says that hurricane aid can wait until
Speaker 2: after the House recess, after the election. What are you
Speaker 2: see in here?
Speaker 5: Mind?
Speaker 4: Look, FEMA has money.
Speaker 1: Now, Hurricane season doesn't end till November, and sometimes it
Speaker 1: can go even later.
Speaker 2: You know, in the past presidential elections it's been right
Speaker 2: up to the election at times.
Speaker 1: Right, So there is still hurricanes, natural disasters, fires. For now,
Speaker 1: FEMA's okay, but it's a delicate balance. It would be
Speaker 1: a great time to pull everyone back, especially in the House,
Speaker 1: and authorize.
Speaker 4: More money for FEMA.
Speaker 1: There's no reason not to do this except that Mike
Speaker 1: Johnson a doesn't really care. And again, look, this is
Speaker 1: Republicans not wanting the federal government to work, right. When
Speaker 1: they're not lying about federal government response, they are, in
Speaker 1: fact making sure that the federal government doesn't have the
Speaker 1: money it needs to do the things that it promises
Speaker 1: it's citizens. So I'm not surprised that Mike Johnson didn't
Speaker 1: want to do this, but it's very annoying to me,
Speaker 1: and it really does set up a possible cash crunch
Speaker 1: later on in the month.
Speaker 4: Very annoying.
Speaker 2: So another subject that seems to have been very glazed
Speaker 2: over as Bob wood Word's revelation that Trump and Putin
Speaker 2: are besties who gets gifts said to them in the
Speaker 2: form of COVID tests? What are you seeing here with
Speaker 2: Kamo's reaction to this.
Speaker 1: This is something that I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: hoped that she would do, which is she is really
Speaker 1: running on some of this stuff. So the idea the
Speaker 1: Donald Trump during the COVID pandemic was more interested in
Speaker 1: getting COVID tests to Vladimir Putin, a nefarious Russian dictator,
Speaker 1: than he was to his own people. I think it
Speaker 1: was a pretty good sign about where Donald Trump's loyalties lie.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that Harris is blasting Trump on this, and
Speaker 1: I hope she makes this her closing message. Speaking of
Speaker 1: closing messages, you know who's you know who is working
Speaker 1: real hard to try to pump up his bestie. Do
Speaker 1: you know who that is?
Speaker 2: One musk?
Speaker 1: Yes, everyone's favorite South African billionaire, his social media platform
Speaker 1: is doing all the stuff that he was convinced Twitter
Speaker 1: was doing before he bought Twitter. So remember you'll remember
Speaker 1: the Twitter leaks where he and listened to all of
Speaker 1: these journalists to spread stories about how old Twitter was
Speaker 1: suppressing speech.
Speaker 4: Well, guess what Elon Musk is doing it? Can you guess?
Speaker 2: Is it suppressing links and suppressing speech and manipulaing the
Speaker 2: for you page? So it's a right wing hellscape.
Speaker 4: Wait, it's like you're in my brain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Elon is doing all the things that he
Speaker 1: accused Twitter of doing. He's suppressing the links, he is
Speaker 1: taking them down, he's throttling speech. And you know again,
Speaker 1: why is he doing that? Because this was never He
Speaker 1: was never a free speech absolutist. All of these people
Speaker 1: who say they were free speech absolutists.
Speaker 4: They are absolutely not that. They are just people.
Speaker 1: Who want to get their own way. And look, Elon
Speaker 1: Musk has if Donald Trump becomes president, he will have
Speaker 1: no regulation and that means that as AI grows, he
Speaker 1: can be the king of AI and he can do
Speaker 1: whatever he wants with it. And this is why and
Speaker 1: a lot of these tech pros they want two things
Speaker 1: from Donald Trump. They don't want to be taxed, right,
Speaker 1: and remember in twenty fifteen and there's a huge his
Speaker 1: tax cuts expire. So the billionaires, the people who are
Speaker 1: benefiting from the Trump tax cuts, do not want to
Speaker 1: lose those tax cuts. So that's part of it. And
Speaker 1: then the other part of it is they do not
Speaker 1: want government regulation. So, for example, the fact that you
Speaker 1: can't trust anything you see online, right, almost anything you
Speaker 1: see online is untrustworthy at this point. Everything you see
Speaker 1: on x is untrustworthy. That is because there's no government regulation, right,
Speaker 1: there's no They're not trying to regulate Facebook, they're not
Speaker 1: trying to regulate AI. They're not trying to regulate anything.
Speaker 1: So if Donald Trump becomes president again, he will and
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone will be surprised by this, he
Speaker 1: will not regulate AI. He will not regulate Facebook. And
Speaker 1: he will also not regulate like the clean water or
Speaker 1: clean air or even you know, remember all the stuff
Speaker 1: with Boeing Like this is lack of government regulation. This
Speaker 1: is what happens when the federal government doesn't regulate things.
Speaker 1: This is why Elon Musk wants Trump back in office,
Speaker 1: because he knows that less regulation benefit.
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Speaker 4: Hello, hollast, what's going on.
Speaker 6: We're racing towards the end of the Trump Apocalypse. The
Speaker 6: campaign is in his final three weeks. Shit is getting,
Speaker 6: as the kids say, very real. And Donald Trump went
Speaker 6: to Coachella and left ten thousand people stranded in the desert.
Speaker 4: The vibes are anxious.
Speaker 1: I do for me, do for our podcast listeners what
Speaker 1: you do for me at least five times a day.
Speaker 6: Look, guys, Trump's central strategy right now is to make
Speaker 6: Democrats feel like the world is over. The election is lost.
Speaker 6: We're all doomed. There's nothing ahead of us but a
Speaker 6: thousand year Trump Reich. It's not true. We are moving
Speaker 6: in the right direction. The race is close. Of course,
Speaker 6: she's been a cannon for less than ninety days. Donald
Speaker 6: Trump is one hundred percent well known brand we are
Speaker 6: not behind. We are ahead in Key State. We are
Speaker 6: moving further ahead in Key states. The zone flooding of
Speaker 6: garbage polls from Trafalgar and Rasmus and all these other
Speaker 6: one off instantaneous polling operations to alter the polling averages
Speaker 6: is to depress you. It is to make you get
Speaker 6: up in the morning and go, oh shit, well he's
Speaker 6: gonna win again. I'm not going to bother to go
Speaker 6: vote because what it does matter this is and look,
Speaker 6: nothing in Donald Trump's world right now is going the
Speaker 6: right direction. You had the chief of his the chairman
Speaker 6: of his Joint chiefs of staff say he's a fascist.
Speaker 1: You arek Milly, he is a fascist. He is a fascist.
Speaker 6: And he didn't like walk around that like he has
Speaker 6: fascist tendencies or he's fascist adjacent. He was like, no,
Speaker 6: he is a fascist.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For Mark Milly, I just want you to take him
Speaker 1: in here as someone who has worked in national security
Speaker 1: and for Dick Cheney, Dear God, forgive all of us.
Speaker 1: My poor grandfather, my poor communist grandfather in his grave,
Speaker 1: going oi Gavault, But just talk to us about what
Speaker 1: it means for someone like Mark Melly to go public.
Speaker 6: One of the most sacred things in the senior leadership
Speaker 6: of the American military is that they try to stay
Speaker 6: out of politics. They do everything they can to stay
Speaker 6: out of domestic politics. They're not And look, they may
Speaker 6: have their inclinations Republican or Democrat, it may go back
Speaker 6: and forth. You might be able to tell what their
Speaker 6: inclinations are. I can tell you I knew one Air
Speaker 6: Force Chief of staff who came across like a swaggering
Speaker 6: two gun cowboy all the time and was a bleeding
Speaker 6: heart progressive liberal Democrat. And I've known plenty of these
Speaker 6: guys who would sooner die than come out and say, oh,
Speaker 6: now I'm involved in politics, even once they're retired. But
Speaker 6: General Millie, who is a very principled guy and who
Speaker 6: learned one hard lesson that during the Loafiante Square Park
Speaker 6: thing when he walked with Trump at Trump's insistence, he
Speaker 6: recognized what this guy was trying to do a minute
Speaker 6: too late. He's made up for it now. He's gone
Speaker 6: back through this whole problem and addressed it in a
Speaker 6: way that I think is really important. He is not
Speaker 6: allowing Trump to skate on this. He's saying the F word.
Speaker 6: He's saying that he's speaking the truth out loud. He's
Speaker 6: not playing any games, and that's happening increasingly because that's
Speaker 6: what Trump is. Don't be afraid of it. Folks call
Speaker 6: him what he is, call him by his name, right right,
Speaker 6: And look, the racism is now in is now up
Speaker 6: at eleven in these speeches. I'm telling you my bet
Speaker 6: that he's going to drop the end bomb at some
Speaker 6: point in this campaign. I like my money on this
Speaker 6: because it's that overt. I think all of it, Molly
Speaker 6: comes down to one thing. Trump is. He cannot change.
Speaker 6: He can never get new customers, fire up his base
Speaker 6: and they'll maybe drag him across the line. And he's
Speaker 6: to depress Kamala Harris's base so they don't come out
Speaker 6: and vote. I persuading anybody. There's nobody new coming into
Speaker 6: Trump's world and going wow, I suddenly.
Speaker 1: Realized, I love fascism. It's the best. No, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point. And we are
Speaker 1: in a moment in American life where he is really
Speaker 1: it's a real hood off moment for Trump.
Speaker 4: I think that's fair.
Speaker 6: He was a hoodoff moment he is he is right
Speaker 6: now in the pointy white it's everything but the pointy
Speaker 6: white hat. At this point, the Harry crosses. He's doing
Speaker 6: a national rally, an American Bund rally at Madison Square Garden,
Speaker 6: just like the American Nazi Party did the American the
Speaker 6: Bund did back in the nineteen thirties. And this is
Speaker 6: one of those examples of like history doesn't repeat, but
Speaker 6: it rhymes with a really good beat. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Do you think just give me two seconds here, do
Speaker 1: you think that? Like, what do you think the thinking
Speaker 1: is Behindella? Couldchella, New York, Madison Square Garden? Like, what
Speaker 1: do you think the thinking is on those?
Speaker 6: He thinks it drives a lot of media.
Speaker 4: That's the thing.
Speaker 6: He thought Cochello would drive a lot of media, and
Speaker 6: that what they and I did hear some somebody inside
Speaker 6: the campaign, my friend Mike Madrid had the theory and
Speaker 6: then I did confirm it with somebody in the campaign.
Speaker 6: They thought Trump thought, in particular, there'd be a lot
Speaker 6: of hispanics at the Coachella rally. Who really showed up
Speaker 6: to the Coachella rally? Old Trump, old white Trump dudes
Speaker 6: always do. Donald Trump's brand is very old and also elderly.
Speaker 4: And not young.
Speaker 6: I see whispers.
Speaker 1: Jesse really wants us to talk and he's like been
Speaker 1: telling me about this earlier. He wanted me to talk
Speaker 1: about this too. I'm not sure why damning video shows
Speaker 1: Rogerstone plotting a coup for November. I mean, damning video.
Speaker 1: Does this surprise anyone? I would be surprised if there
Speaker 1: wasn't a Rogerstone video.
Speaker 6: You've got videos this weekend out from Roger Stone, from
Speaker 6: a certain former national, from a certain form in general whose.
Speaker 4: Name, because you're on court with him, because.
Speaker 6: He's suing me for ten million dollars for being mean
Speaker 6: to him on the internet the internet for retweeting someone.
Speaker 4: Yes, well, don't be me and them on the internet.
Speaker 4: That was the mistake. You've got Robert Stone.
Speaker 6: You've got this guy. If you guys haven't yet encountered
Speaker 6: Ivan Rayelkin, who's running around talking about how they're going
Speaker 6: to storm precincts in Pennsylvania to make sure those dastardly
Speaker 6: communist precinct agents aren't stealing Trump's votes with guns.
Speaker 1: Of course, is that the guy who got arrested in
Speaker 1: Coachella or is that someone else?
Speaker 6: That's someone else?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that guy seems great to but any look.
Speaker 6: At you hear you have Roger Stone admitting on tape, yes,
Speaker 6: we purge, We're purging a million of them. And Molly,
Speaker 6: I'll give you just one guess as to the race,
Speaker 6: and that's the composition of them. And when it comes
Speaker 6: down to Roger Stone and so all of it really
Speaker 6: comes down to I think, and I'm actually today I
Speaker 6: heard the Justice Department was firing off letters to Virginia
Speaker 6: and Florida and other places, suddenly waking the fuck up
Speaker 6: twenty three days out before the election's here, Hello, finally
Speaker 6: saying to these states that don't do this, you can't
Speaker 6: do this. It's the elite. But as always with the
Speaker 6: Justice Department, they are they never fail to show up
Speaker 6: late without the right number of fire trucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they seem really behind the behind and not all
Speaker 1: that proactive. Now again, we don't know what's going on
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, but it certainly does that feel good.
Speaker 6: Look, I will take any sand thrown in the gears
Speaker 6: of the Republican effort to disenfranchise millions of Americans. Millions
Speaker 6: of these people that are being taken off the ballot
Speaker 6: are being done. It's being done in coordination with state
Speaker 6: Republican parties curating the vote. Yeah, I've been told by
Speaker 6: two separate sources that the Republican Party of Florida is
Speaker 6: giving the lists of people who have to come off
Speaker 6: of the ballot or off of the voter file to
Speaker 6: the counties saying this is the list you're going to use,
Speaker 6: and the governor's going to insist on it.
Speaker 1: Jesus call me crazy, but it's not how any of
Speaker 1: this is supposed to any of.
Speaker 6: This is supposed to work. And look, you've got a
Speaker 6: lot of these people that are telling you what they're
Speaker 6: going to do. They are they're going to do what
Speaker 6: they tell us they're going to do. Listen, I'm sanguine
Speaker 6: about the elect I am ready for a really ugly
Speaker 6: two months between Wednesday, the day after the election and
Speaker 6: January sixth's. Yeah, that's going to get hairy, and it's
Speaker 6: going to get ugly, and it's going to get I
Speaker 6: think it's going to get very dangerous for the country
Speaker 6: during that window.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not what. That's not good. That is not good.
Speaker 4: It's funny.
Speaker 1: What's nice about talking to you is you give us
Speaker 1: stuff to worry about that I actually have talked to
Speaker 1: you quite.
Speaker 4: A lot, so I was already worried about that.
Speaker 1: But before that, I was just worried about the election.
Speaker 1: But it's nice to know that in twenty days we
Speaker 1: will be worried about a whole other slate. I really
Speaker 1: appreciate that, because I was worried that I would be
Speaker 1: worried about the wrong things. I want you to explain
Speaker 1: to us a little bit about what's happening right now,
Speaker 1: sort of with the rest of the election.
Speaker 4: It's funny.
Speaker 1: I was talking to someone who's a straight reporter today
Speaker 1: who was saying, Democrats are you know, very gloom and dooming,
Speaker 1: glooming and dooming. Sure, Then he goes, you know, this
Speaker 1: is like his dark side. He goes, if the point,
Speaker 1: if we're off a little bit in the polls, you
Speaker 1: could see how Ted Cruise could lose.
Speaker 6: I think that Ted Crews has a chance to lose.
Speaker 6: It is in narrow path. It requires Colin Allred spending
Speaker 6: every minute of the maining part of this campaign in
Speaker 6: Harris County and the Houston metro area. And I'll just
Speaker 6: be frank. He needs to go to every black church
Speaker 6: in that area over and over again. He needs to
Speaker 6: reve up African American turnout between three and five percent,
Speaker 6: and Ted Cruz can't win if he does that. He
Speaker 6: should not fuck around with anything else. Don't do any
Speaker 6: don't take any votes in Washington, don't go out trying
Speaker 6: to win over El Paso. Sit in Harris County. You're
Speaker 6: going to get a huge percentage, almost a quarter of
Speaker 6: the vote, a little more a quarter of the vote
Speaker 6: out of the Houston metro area. I mean, occasionally dip
Speaker 6: over to Dallas, but that turnout up. Ted Cruise is unpopular,
Speaker 6: he's unlikable, he's old.
Speaker 1: Let you get to say terrible things about Ted Cruise.
Speaker 1: What's nice about bringing this up is now you're able
Speaker 1: to go on. Yes, he's a fish, microwaiver.
Speaker 4: We know it. Man.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, but he's only able to exist in an
Speaker 6: environment like Texas. Tech Cruz would be even in any
Speaker 6: other red state. By this point, the guy doesn't give
Speaker 6: a shit about Texas. He doesn't even live there anymore.
Speaker 6: He lives in DC. He's got his podcasting in Empire
Speaker 6: of his and that's what he cares about. The guy
Speaker 6: doesn't spend a lot of time. He's disengaged from work
Speaker 6: in the Senate because he knows he'll never get leadership
Speaker 6: even when the Magas take over, and all of it
Speaker 6: comes down to this like likability question in a big way.
Speaker 6: And I think a lot of Texans have seen Ted
Speaker 6: Shenanigans now for two cycles and he's an unlikable guy.
Speaker 6: And look, Texas is in transition. If it's not this race,
Speaker 6: it's won two years from now. A lot of Californians
Speaker 6: are moving there, a lot of folks from the new
Speaker 6: Northeastern moving there. A lot of younger people are moving there.
Speaker 6: It's a young state, it's getting younger every day. It's
Speaker 6: a Hispanic state, getting more Hispanic every day. And while
Speaker 6: that doesn't mean one hundred per one to one correlation
Speaker 6: with the Republican.
Speaker 4: Votes DEMOCREDA votes, excuse me.
Speaker 6: It certainly is a much more favorable environment that we
Speaker 6: would have had eight years ago or even four years ago.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about sort of what she's doing her
Speaker 1: closing message, because I did this thing with Carvil last
Speaker 1: night and Carvil was saying, what's her She has to
Speaker 1: have a really strong closing message.
Speaker 4: And also she's.
Speaker 1: On her way through all of the swing states next week,
Speaker 1: like a crazy swing stage, putting.
Speaker 6: In the work. Okay, Yeah, that matters. That counts a lot.
Speaker 6: Remember Donald Trump is still skipping days on the trail
Speaker 6: two golf even right now this week.
Speaker 1: Even now I thought they weren't letting him golf because
Speaker 1: of security.
Speaker 6: He's still He's still sneaking it in Florida.
Speaker 4: I'm told at doraw.
Speaker 6: But she's doing the work, She's getting out there. I
Speaker 6: don't think of campaigns in the same way I think
Speaker 6: of thought of campaigns even two years ago. I think
Speaker 6: going on Call Her Daddy was more important for her
Speaker 6: campaign than any ten rallies. You can't buy that level
Speaker 6: of media coverage and that level of audience engagement. I
Speaker 6: think going on Howard Stern as Scott Gallows of the day,
Speaker 6: this is this maybe the year of the podcast presidency.
Speaker 6: Trump is going on Crypto Bro podcasts and the Manisphere
Speaker 6: podcasts and the Milk Brothers. Whatever the hell that is
Speaker 6: sounds like amboys, milk boys. Excuse me THENLK.
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't even know what any of that.
Speaker 6: I'm just honestly, I don't even think you do want
Speaker 6: to know about it these But she's out there talking
Speaker 6: to people with audiences in the tens of millions. He's
Speaker 6: out there talking to people of audiences of guys who
Speaker 6: have a den crippling Hentai fetish in their mom's baseball.
Speaker 1: Also, Trump did Let's talk about Trump's stranding people in
Speaker 1: Coachella for a minute. How is that a good way? Like,
Speaker 1: don't let the followers get mad that they're stranded somewhere
Speaker 1: or now.
Speaker 6: They're blaming the deep state, they're some they're blaming the
Speaker 6: mayor of Riverside. They're blaming everybody else except for the
Speaker 6: motherfucker who organized the buses for the event. And that
Speaker 6: was Donald Trump's campaign. And when they left these people
Speaker 6: hanging out in the desert, all of a sudden, the
Speaker 6: tough guy. Look your feelings, They're like, I feel so
Speaker 6: abed and it alone in the desert. I okay, boo
Speaker 6: fucking who blame Donald Trump? You want to blame somebody,
Speaker 6: Blame Donald Trump because Donald Trump was a motherfucker who
Speaker 6: left you in the desert. Donald Trump was the guy
Speaker 6: who didn't get the buses set up in a way
Speaker 6: where they had enough capacity and enough gas in the
Speaker 6: buses to do the entire operation.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about Liz Cheney again, went on She's
Speaker 1: really doing God's work here.
Speaker 4: She went on the Sunday Shows.
Speaker 1: She said she doesn't think that Maga Mike Johnson will
Speaker 1: do his job certifying the election. She was in the
Speaker 1: Republican leadership up until two years ago. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is wild tough.
Speaker 6: She knows who he is, She understands who Mike Johnson is.
Speaker 6: She is correct, and let's remember on this same Sunday
Speaker 6: shows this week, Mike Johnson said we had a peaceful
Speaker 6: transition of power in twenty I want to say this,
Speaker 6: like very bluntly to my friends in the media. Anytime
Speaker 6: a Republican official says that you had a peaceful transfer
Speaker 6: of power in twenty twenty, or says, well, Donald Trump
Speaker 6: was shooting in the election, the solution is not to say, well,
Speaker 6: let me ask you another question. The solution is to
Speaker 6: frog marks them out of the fucking building as security
Speaker 6: comes and takes them off the set, and that you
Speaker 6: never invite them back, because these people are willfully engaging
Speaker 6: in what they know, and the hosts and the networks
Speaker 6: know to be egregious lies. The idea we had a
Speaker 6: peaceful transfer of power in twenty twenty is truly epic
Speaker 6: in its shamelessness less, having none of it. She's having
Speaker 6: none of it. And look, I think her performance in
Speaker 6: this role that she is in right now as a
Speaker 6: truth teller about what the has become and is becoming,
Speaker 6: is peerless. I think she's absolutely I think she's absolutely
Speaker 6: gone out there and truely put country over party.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just agree with.
Speaker 6: Kamala Harris on everything. I don't agree with on everything.
Speaker 4: I know you don't you both well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm more of a sick guy it anyway,
Speaker 6: But I own some glocks. But long story short, this
Speaker 6: idea that you've got two types of people, the people
Speaker 6: telling you the truth about the world actually looks like
Speaker 6: the list Chinese and the people demanding that you accept
Speaker 6: a lie that they know and to be a lie
Speaker 6: and that they know that you are stuck in this
Speaker 6: media generated self referential frame of oh god, if I'm
Speaker 6: not if I'm not objective, and I don't pretend that
Speaker 6: this is a real. No, you don't have to. Martha
Speaker 6: Raddick should have said, get the fuck off my get
Speaker 6: the fuck off my set, or Walker, get the fuck
Speaker 6: off my set, leave go, you're out, shut the mic off.
Speaker 6: That's the correct answer, and then that will be the
Speaker 6: one thing that punishes the lie. These guys. For all
Speaker 6: that they hate the mainstream media, they are desperate to
Speaker 6: use it to overturn the freedoms and liberties that make
Speaker 6: the mainstream possible.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, so I play you guys one thing before
Speaker 2: we go live from a Trump rally right now, All right,
Speaker 2: this is Trump talking about a chart to have a
Speaker 2: strong order, and.
Speaker 5: That's why we had that beautiful chart.
Speaker 4: Was my favorite yard in history.
Speaker 1: Sleepy that I kiss it, just making a face I
Speaker 1: sleep on day.
Speaker 4: I kiss it.
Speaker 6: Well and to that, Melania says, thank fucking good.
Speaker 4: Written tomorrow night, Monday night.
Speaker 6: Yes, indeed, Monday night, dude, nude all no, not.
Speaker 4: Nope, not that is nope, not that.
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Speaker 1: Doug Emhoff is the second Gentleman of the United States.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Fast Politics, Doug.
Speaker 7: I'm Mollie.
Speaker 4: It's good to do this.
Speaker 7: I'm a listener. Now I get to be beyond. So
Speaker 7: this is cool.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm delighted to have you and I think of
Speaker 1: Now I'm not going to ask you to do the
Speaker 1: borad voice. I'm not going to ask you, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: just going to clear the air.
Speaker 7: No asking you to do or was it or was
Speaker 7: it there's a whole controversy.
Speaker 4: Was it or was it for art?
Speaker 7: Or was it just you know? Who knows?
Speaker 1: It is so cool, all right. I was born in
Speaker 1: the seventies hippie parents. They had a marriage that sort
Speaker 1: of imploded over my mother's career, among other things. So
Speaker 1: you have this really strong marriage where you have stopped
Speaker 1: doing your career to support your spouse, like I also
Speaker 1: have a marriage like that, but I'm just hoping you
Speaker 1: could talk about what that is like.
Speaker 7: So it's funny when this comes up. I don't think
Speaker 7: it's so unique. This is just a husband and a
Speaker 7: wife who love each other very deeply. We support each other,
Speaker 7: and we are there for each other. We're there for
Speaker 7: our family, and we've got this big, huge, blended family.
Speaker 7: And I'm pretty old school. I mean, my main thing
Speaker 7: in life is to protect those that I love and
Speaker 7: be there for my family and support them. And so
Speaker 7: because my wife, in her chosen career, went from United
Speaker 7: States Center vice president, and because of that unbelievable career move,
Speaker 7: it was a no brainer. I worked right up until
Speaker 7: the time that Joe Biden called her to be on
Speaker 7: the ticket. Very happily. I was very successful. I felt
Speaker 7: left a full play to work. But for my partner,
Speaker 7: who I love very much, who had this opportunity, it's
Speaker 7: just part of who I am. Again, it's very old school.
Speaker 7: I don't think it's a new thing. And this is
Speaker 7: what you know you should do is be there for
Speaker 7: those who love and this is something that was necessary
Speaker 7: to support her. And it's okay. Now I get to
Speaker 7: be second gentleman, and I get to support her as
Speaker 7: a vice president. I get to travel the world representing
Speaker 7: this country that I love so much. I get to
Speaker 7: stand up for US Jews in this fight against anti Semitism.
Speaker 7: I get to focus on issues regarding you know, the
Speaker 7: Dobbs decision and encouraging men. Hey look, I'm focused on
Speaker 7: this issue because it affects all of us, not just women,
Speaker 7: women or dying, but it affects family planning, it affects
Speaker 7: other rights potentially, which we saw in the Dops decision.
Speaker 7: So it's given me an ability to have this platform,
Speaker 7: which is really satisfying in terms of, you know, like
Speaker 7: a career. It's actually just been an incredible experience. I
Speaker 7: get to teach at Georgetown Law School to keep my
Speaker 7: head in the legal profession. So this is this has
Speaker 7: been great. This is not I have not become less
Speaker 7: of a dude. I'm not less of a person because
Speaker 7: of this. She loves me the same that I love her.
Speaker 7: She supports me just as much as I support her.
Speaker 7: So this is this is kind of business as usual.
Speaker 1: We're both Jews and you're just talking about that. One
Speaker 1: of the things I see a lot in my life
Speaker 1: are fancied Jews, because that's a group that you know,
Speaker 1: I sort of know, and Trump has managed to get
Speaker 1: this insane message to them that somehow he is better
Speaker 1: for Jews.
Speaker 4: Just make it make sense.
Speaker 7: I've spoken on this several times. You know, Look, if
Speaker 7: you go back to Charlottesville with the tiki torches and
Speaker 7: Jews will not replace us. And when Trump got up
Speaker 7: there and a woman died and he's saying to neo
Speaker 7: Nazis and people holding tiki torches, saying Jews shall not
Speaker 7: replace us, that they will fine people on that side
Speaker 7: of it, this is who he is. He's had dinner
Speaker 7: with known anti Semites. There's a long record of anti
Speaker 7: Semitism and Donald Trump. And then just go back a
Speaker 7: couple of weeks. He was literally at an event purporting
Speaker 7: to be against anti Semitism, and he committed anti semitism
Speaker 7: at that event, with the dual loyalties bs and blaming
Speaker 7: the Jews when he loses the election. This is who
Speaker 7: he is. And listen to what Kamala Harris is saying.
Speaker 7: She just did a big call to the Jewish community today.
Speaker 7: She gave beautiful remarks at our home on October seventh,
Speaker 7: just listen to what she's saying, and like, I literally
Speaker 7: have to tell people, Look, do you think I would
Speaker 7: literally be married to someone who didn't support Jews or
Speaker 7: Israel as a Jewish person? Come on, this is somebody
Speaker 7: who supported Jews and Israel well before she met me.
Speaker 7: She was the one who took me to Israel when
Speaker 7: she was the United States Senator. She's the one who
Speaker 7: pushed me to really lean into this fight against anti Semitism.
Speaker 7: She's the one who pushed me to spearhead our White
Speaker 7: House National Strategy to counter anti Semitism. And every day
Speaker 7: since that horrific day of October seventh, even when it's
Speaker 7: been so hard for me to do, push me to
Speaker 7: speak out loudly in this now crisis of anti Semitism
Speaker 7: since October seventh. I would not be doing this but
Speaker 7: for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: You have a really good sort of divorce, like one
Speaker 1: of the great divorces. Your ex wife is really committed.
Speaker 1: She was at the DNC. She is one of the
Speaker 1: biggest supporters of Harris. As a child of divorce parents.
Speaker 1: It is super moving to watch. How does that work?
Speaker 7: Well, you're talking about Kirsten, She's incredible, so look, even
Speaker 7: during our divorce, we committed to each other that we
Speaker 7: were going to remain very close together and also be
Speaker 7: there for the kids, and whatever other issues were happening,
Speaker 7: we would just deal with those separately and make sure
Speaker 7: that she and I had an excellent relationship and an
Speaker 7: excellent relationship with the kids. And that's exactly what we
Speaker 7: did from day one, and that carried over into when
Speaker 7: I met Kamala, and so she accepted Kamala into her life. Personally,
Speaker 7: they are close themselves and as parents, and you know,
Speaker 7: everyone talks about Kamala to Mamala, but I love what
Speaker 7: Ella said after a couple of years. She said, you're
Speaker 7: a three headed parenting machine. And that's because of the
Speaker 7: relationship of Kirsten and Kamala and the relationship that Kirsten
Speaker 7: and I preserved and actually gotten closer over the years.
Speaker 7: So she is a fierce protector of our family like
Speaker 7: we all are. And you know, every time something comes
Speaker 7: at us, she's the one out there pushing back because
Speaker 7: that's how we roll, and that's how close we are.
Speaker 7: And it's a testament to Kirsten and to Kamala, and
Speaker 7: it's great and it's just really brought our family even
Speaker 7: closer going through this experience the last two plus months,
Speaker 7: it's brought us all closer. So you know, this is
Speaker 7: it's been great.
Speaker 1: Are the kids, they're like young adults. That has to
Speaker 1: be a huge strine.
Speaker 7: So Cole is thirty now and married, he's been married
Speaker 7: for a year. El's twenty five. So it's interesting though, Molly,
Speaker 7: they still need us, and especially now with all this
Speaker 7: going on. So we're really whatever little free time we have,
Speaker 7: we're really focused on Cole and Ella and Cole's wife Greenley,
Speaker 7: and you know, Kamala's grand nieces, and we just want
Speaker 7: to make sure that they know that we are still
Speaker 7: there for them and we're going to be around. So
Speaker 7: we're taking them on the trail. So I was just
Speaker 7: on a west coast swing and I picked up Cole
Speaker 7: in La and then he came to Phoenix, Arizona with
Speaker 7: me for a couple of days with Greenley. Ella is
Speaker 7: going to meet me this weekend in Philadelphia for an
Speaker 7: event or two, which happens to be my birthday, so
Speaker 7: I get to spend part of that day with her,
Speaker 7: and so we're just including them and making sure we're
Speaker 7: in constant contact. From the road. But yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 7: this whole experience has been surreal for all of us.
Speaker 7: It came about so suddenly, and it's just been a
Speaker 7: rocket ship for two plus months. But everyone understands we've
Speaker 7: got to win this election. And between Kamala and I, like,
Speaker 7: there's very little couple time right now. We're not really
Speaker 7: seeing each other. We're trying to FaceTime stay in touch.
Speaker 7: But we know the mission, we know what our responsibility is.
Speaker 7: We're very accountable to it. We spend whatever time we
Speaker 7: have talking about I give her notes from the field,
Speaker 7: here's what I'm hearing from these states I'm going to,
Speaker 7: And it's all about what more can we do to
Speaker 7: make sure we're doing everything we can as a couple
Speaker 7: to win this election. That's it. That's all we're focused on,
Speaker 7: right and.
Speaker 1: That goes to the stakes of this election and the
Speaker 1: case for why this is not a usual election.
Speaker 7: She said it, This is not only the most important
Speaker 7: election of our lifetimes, it's the most important election of
Speaker 7: the nation's lifetime. And what I'm now saying is people
Speaker 7: need to kind of what you're talking about with your
Speaker 7: Jewish friends, we need to just get out of this
Speaker 7: Trump has this fog that he's created, this fog of disinformation, gaslighting,
Speaker 7: misinformation to try to run out the clock because they
Speaker 7: try this character to her of her as she's not qualified,
Speaker 7: she's not competent, she's not intelligent. All got debunked when
Speaker 7: the American people got to see her in person and
Speaker 7: got to know her, saw how she literally just kicked
Speaker 7: his ass on that debate stage to a point where
Speaker 7: he's now trying to run out the clock and run
Speaker 7: away from her. Won't debate her again, won't go on
Speaker 7: sixty minutes. He's avoiding her, and all he does is lie,
Speaker 7: lies about the female relief. He's lying in, gaslighting and
Speaker 7: creating this fog around him to just run out the clock.
Speaker 7: People need to just push that fog away and just
Speaker 7: see what's in front of them. You've got somebody with
Speaker 7: a horrible president the first time. He's way more dangerous
Speaker 7: now he's degrading in front of our eyes and the
Speaker 7: things that he's talking about. Dictator on day one, terminating
Speaker 7: the Constitution Project twenty twenty five, extrapolating out the Dobs
Speaker 7: decision to take away more freedoms, damage to the environment,
Speaker 7: more guns on the street. This is not a world
Speaker 7: that any of us would want to live in. So
Speaker 7: if people can actually see what's in front of them,
Speaker 7: one hand, terrible president the first time, way more dangerous, chaotic,
Speaker 7: will make everyone's life worse. And then Kamal Harris, who
Speaker 7: has been a prosecutor for twenty years putting away murders, rapists,
Speaker 7: and sexual offenders. She was an elected district attorney, elected
Speaker 7: attorney general where she took on the transnational gangs at
Speaker 7: the border, United States senator and vice president for four
Speaker 7: years in which she's in the Oval office with the
Speaker 7: President helping make decisions in the situation room. She's already
Speaker 7: a world leader. This woman is eminently qualified. She has
Speaker 7: exceeded the most unrealistically high expectations every step of the way,
Speaker 7: DNC speech, debate, you name it. She's on a media
Speaker 7: blitz right now. Do you want to learn more about her,
Speaker 7: go watch Stern and all these things she's doing. And
Speaker 7: she's relentless focused and determined. She's going to be a
Speaker 7: president for everyone. She's not going to embarrass us on
Speaker 7: the world stage. And this is why a bunch of
Speaker 7: Republicans are for her. List Cheney, General McCrystal, and others.
Speaker 7: So it's all out there. People just need to open
Speaker 7: their eyes and see what's right in front of them.
Speaker 7: In this way, it's a binary choice.
Speaker 4: You guys have a gun, She's got a gun.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's a responsible gun owner.
Speaker 4: Is that super scary?
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 7: She believes in the Second Amendment, and she's talked about
Speaker 7: her career law enforcement and having a gun. But she's
Speaker 7: responsible gun owner and also believes in reasonable and effective
Speaker 7: gun safety laws. So children are not being murdered at school.
Speaker 7: Do you know that the number one cause of death
Speaker 7: for young people in this country is gun violence? Yeah,
Speaker 7: and it's so preventable. So both things can be true.
Speaker 7: You can be a responsible gun owner, you can believe
Speaker 7: in the Second Amendment. Nobody's taking your guns away. She's
Speaker 7: not doing that. But she wants to make sure that
Speaker 7: gun violence is not the number one cause of death
Speaker 7: for our young people in this country, that you can
Speaker 7: go to school, and go to the market, and go
Speaker 7: to the bank and not be gunned down by a
Speaker 7: weapon of war.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people Listener's podcast who are
Speaker 1: voting for her, is not a question, but they have
Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety, a lot. Number one anxiety is
Speaker 1: the campaign, reactive to what they're seeing on the field, etc.
Speaker 7: Oh definitely, that's why we are all out there each
Speaker 7: and every day in all seven swing states. It should
Speaker 7: not be this close, and people should have anxiety because
Speaker 7: we can't have Donald Trump come back. So instead of
Speaker 7: just quivering and doing what Dems often do, channel that
Speaker 7: into action. Folks, Channel that into door knocking and sending
Speaker 7: out messages and coming to some of these seven swing states,
Speaker 7: come to the office, go canvas with us, and do
Speaker 7: what she and I are doing each and every day
Speaker 7: that we've been doing since July twenty first, NonStop, twenty
Speaker 7: four to seven. This is what we're doing. So join
Speaker 7: us in taking action, channeling that rage, that fear, that
Speaker 7: anxiety into helping her win, rather than hand ringing.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Doug no momently, Jesse Cannon.
Speaker 2: My junk fast. So Trump is really really playing with
Speaker 2: a hand that is dangerous. He's suggest that a heckler
Speaker 2: should get the hell knocked out of her after a
Speaker 2: rally the other day.
Speaker 1: I don't want to normalize fascist rhetoric or autocratic rhetoric,
Speaker 1: but I would say, is it not the first time
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has hoped that hecklers would get beaten up.
Speaker 1: He also did this earlier in twenty seventeen. I think
Speaker 1: he called he said to be rough with a Heckler. Look,
Speaker 1: it's part of the whole autocrat thing, right, that you
Speaker 1: should punish people. He's low key encouraging his supporters to
Speaker 1: dehumanize the other, to go after the other. This is
Speaker 1: very much textbook stuff, but it's really dark and it
Speaker 1: shows where we are. I think it's really important to
Speaker 1: remember this is setting the table for worse stuff. Right.
Speaker 1: He's not saying to go after a Heckler because it's
Speaker 1: this one Heckler, Right, He's saying it because he wants
Speaker 1: them to do the stuff they did at January sixth.
Speaker 1: He is encouraging violence, and it's really scary. It's really bad,
Speaker 1: and it's also just really from the autocraft playbooks. So
Speaker 1: look again, this cannot be more clear. This is an
Speaker 1: election about these stakes, not the odds. We should be
Speaker 1: thinking about the stakes of this, not the odds. Voting canvassing,
Speaker 1: talking to your friends, make a voting plan, make them
Speaker 1: make voting plans. This is a real moment for American
Speaker 1: democracy and is a real question of if we're going
Speaker 1: to be able to keep it. That's it for this
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