1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: today's best minds, and West Virginia Governor Jim Justice, who 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: is now running for Senate, barely shows up to the 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: state House. We have such a great show for you 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: today the Lincoln Projects. Rick Wilson joins us to discuss 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Trump's further descent into madness. Then we'll talk to Second 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Gentleman Doug m Hoff about what are really mistakes of 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: this election. But first the News. 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: Sunday shows one of them. Fox's Maria Barbiromo invited mister 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: Trump on and crazy in suit. Let me show you not. 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 3: Let's remember you've got fifty thousand Chinese nationals in this 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: country in the last couple of years. There are people 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: on the terrorist watch list three hundred and fifty in 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: the last couple of years. Like you said, thirteen thousand 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: murderers and fifteen thousand rapists. 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 4: What are you expecting? 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: Joe Biden said he doesn't think it's going to be 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: a peaceful election day. 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 5: Well, he doesn't have any idea what's happening in Rolfers. 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 5: He spends most of his as day sleeping. I think 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 5: the bigger problem is the enemy from within, not even 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 5: the people that have come in and destroying our country 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 5: by the way, totally destroying our country, to towns, the villages, 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 5: they're being inundated, But I don't think they're the problem 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 5: in terms of election. I think the bigger problem are 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 5: the people from within. We have some very bad people, 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 5: we have some sick people, radical left lunatics, and I 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 5: think they're the and it should be very easily handled 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 5: by if necessary, by National Guard or if really necessary, 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 5: by the military, because they can't let that. 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 4: Happen towns and villages. 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you feel like it's just taken straight 34 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: from the original German enemies from within. That's us, Jesse, 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: that is us. I did take that implication opinion columnists. 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: He doesn't like people with dissenting views. And again, look, 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: the guy who starts the camps never just uses the 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: camps for the immigrants, He also uses them for the people. 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Once you start a camp, it's very hard to sort 40 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: of just you just sort of put everybody in it. 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: If history is any guide, I'd love to be wrong. 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: I hope to be wrong. Look is not surprising. Trump 43 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: has said stuff like this before, somehow presented to the 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: country thinks maybe he's kidding. 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: Last time he wasn't able to do it because he 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: wasn't organized enough. This time, I'd be surprised if he 48 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: was not able to put this whole thing together. And 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: this moves us to our next news item, which. 50 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: Is one of the many people who once worked for 51 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Trump that really are scared of the idea of him 52 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: becoming president again. 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: US Army General Mark Milly, you'll remember woke Mark Milly, 54 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: by the way, not very woke, says that Donald Trump 55 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: is fascist to the core. I'm sorry, okay, Mark Milly, 56 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: the US Army general who Donald Trump appointed to Chairman 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has a warning. It 58 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: is that Donald Trump is fascist to the core. And 59 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: then he says no person has ever opposed more of 60 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: a danger to the United States than the man who 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: served as forty fifth president. 62 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: This is the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: Staff saying this. In a normal world, right, this would 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: be on. 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 4: The cover of the New York Times. You will notice 67 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: it is not on the cover of the New York Times. 68 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: In fact, the news cycle today is largely devoted to 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: a poor poll for Vice President Harris as opposed to again, 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: we're doing exactly what you're not supposed to be doing. 71 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Mainstream media is covering the odds and not the stakes. 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Once again, twenty three days before possible fascist takeover of 73 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: this country and the mainstream media is covering the odds 74 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: and not the stakes. 75 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: Boy, Yeah, well, in other stories that they're missing. Trump 76 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: was a little waco at the Aurora, Colorado rally. As 77 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: opposed to all the other ones, he was wacko up, 78 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 2: but this one, I think there was a particular quote 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: that was a little little alarming to us. What'd you see? 80 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: Your mind? 81 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: Unbelievable. 82 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: So there was a lot of questions about why Donald 83 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Trump was going to Aurora, Colorado. It didn't make a 84 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: lot of sense. Colorado is a pretty blue state. But 85 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: it became clear when he got there. He is running 86 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: on this idea of bringing back the Alien Enemies Act 87 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: of seventeen ninety eight. So the Alien Enemies Act of 88 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: seventeen ninety eight basically gives the president power to sort 89 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: of go after people who are For example, was used 90 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: during World War Two to in turn the Japanese right 91 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: because the idea there was that people were Japanese were 92 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: not loyal to this country, and so you could put 93 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: them in camps and take all their stuff. 94 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: It's one of the darkest I mean. 95 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: That and Jim Crow are like two of the darkest 96 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: pieces of American history, both of which Donald Trump is 97 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: running for president on. He's running for president on Jim Crow. Right, 98 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: he doesn't say it quite like that, but he kind 99 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: of does. And the Japanese internment camps. So, and you 100 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: have people who want this. I don't want to seem 101 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: hysterical when I say this is so insane. Anyway, So 102 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump went to Aurora to say that the Denver 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: suburb has been taken over by Venezuelan gangs. 104 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: This is not true. And now he wants to use. 105 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: This alien Enemy's Act of seventeen ninety eight to basically 106 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: put all of these people in camps. He's going to 107 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: call it Operation Aurora. So, as you know, with the Republicans, 108 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: fighting invisible crime is one of their signatures. And it 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: looks like we're going to see more of this unless 110 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: somehow Harris can win this election. 111 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there really was great journalism done around how 112 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: much of a made up issue. This was that was 113 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: just the hysteric fever swamps of right wing citizen journalism 114 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 2: who made this all come about this issue in Aurora. 115 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yet again, right, we keep seeing this yep. 116 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: So I find this particularly disgusting, which is that House 117 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: Speaker Mike Johnson says that hurricane aid can wait until 118 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: after the House recess, after the election. What are you 119 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: see in here? 120 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 5: Mind? 121 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: Look, FEMA has money. 122 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: Now, Hurricane season doesn't end till November, and sometimes it 123 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: can go even later. 124 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: You know, in the past presidential elections it's been right 125 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: up to the election at times. 126 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: Right, So there is still hurricanes, natural disasters, fires. For now, 127 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: FEMA's okay, but it's a delicate balance. It would be 128 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: a great time to pull everyone back, especially in the House, 129 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and authorize. 130 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: More money for FEMA. 131 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: There's no reason not to do this except that Mike 132 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: Johnson a doesn't really care. And again, look, this is 133 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: Republicans not wanting the federal government to work, right. When 134 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: they're not lying about federal government response, they are, in 135 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: fact making sure that the federal government doesn't have the 136 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: money it needs to do the things that it promises 137 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: it's citizens. So I'm not surprised that Mike Johnson didn't 138 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: want to do this, but it's very annoying to me, 139 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: and it really does set up a possible cash crunch 140 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: later on in the month. 141 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: Very annoying. 142 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: So another subject that seems to have been very glazed 143 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: over as Bob wood Word's revelation that Trump and Putin 144 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: are besties who gets gifts said to them in the 145 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: form of COVID tests? What are you seeing here with 146 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: Kamo's reaction to this. 147 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: This is something that I think a lot of people 148 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: hoped that she would do, which is she is really 149 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: running on some of this stuff. So the idea the 150 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump during the COVID pandemic was more interested in 151 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: getting COVID tests to Vladimir Putin, a nefarious Russian dictator, 152 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: than he was to his own people. I think it 153 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: was a pretty good sign about where Donald Trump's loyalties lie. 154 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad that Harris is blasting Trump on this, and 155 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: I hope she makes this her closing message. Speaking of 156 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: closing messages, you know who's you know who is working 157 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: real hard to try to pump up his bestie. Do 158 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: you know who that is? 159 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: One musk? 160 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Yes, everyone's favorite South African billionaire, his social media platform 161 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: is doing all the stuff that he was convinced Twitter 162 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: was doing before he bought Twitter. So remember you'll remember 163 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: the Twitter leaks where he and listened to all of 164 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: these journalists to spread stories about how old Twitter was 165 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: suppressing speech. 166 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: Well, guess what Elon Musk is doing it? Can you guess? 167 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: Is it suppressing links and suppressing speech and manipulaing the 168 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: for you page? So it's a right wing hellscape. 169 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: Wait, it's like you're in my brain. 170 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Elon is doing all the things that he 171 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: accused Twitter of doing. He's suppressing the links, he is 172 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: taking them down, he's throttling speech. And you know again, 173 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: why is he doing that? Because this was never He 174 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: was never a free speech absolutist. All of these people 175 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: who say they were free speech absolutists. 176 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 4: They are absolutely not that. They are just people. 177 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: Who want to get their own way. And look, Elon 178 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: Musk has if Donald Trump becomes president, he will have 179 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: no regulation and that means that as AI grows, he 180 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: can be the king of AI and he can do 181 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: whatever he wants with it. And this is why and 182 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: a lot of these tech pros they want two things 183 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: from Donald Trump. They don't want to be taxed, right, 184 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: and remember in twenty fifteen and there's a huge his 185 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: tax cuts expire. So the billionaires, the people who are 186 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: benefiting from the Trump tax cuts, do not want to 187 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: lose those tax cuts. So that's part of it. And 188 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: then the other part of it is they do not 189 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: want government regulation. So, for example, the fact that you 190 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: can't trust anything you see online, right, almost anything you 191 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: see online is untrustworthy at this point. Everything you see 192 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: on x is untrustworthy. That is because there's no government regulation, right, 193 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: there's no They're not trying to regulate Facebook, they're not 194 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: trying to regulate AI. They're not trying to regulate anything. 195 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: So if Donald Trump becomes president again, he will and 196 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone will be surprised by this, he 197 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: will not regulate AI. He will not regulate Facebook. And 198 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: he will also not regulate like the clean water or 199 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: clean air or even you know, remember all the stuff 200 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: with Boeing Like this is lack of government regulation. This 201 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: is what happens when the federal government doesn't regulate things. 202 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: This is why Elon Musk wants Trump back in office, 203 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: because he knows that less regulation benefit. 204 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. We have even more tour dates for you. 205 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: Did you know the Lincoln projects Rick Wilson have Fast Politics, 206 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: MALEI jug Faster are heading out on tour to bring 207 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: you a night of laughs for our dark political landscape. 208 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: Join us on August twenty sixth at San Francisco at 209 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: the Swedish American Hall, or in la on August twenty 210 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: seventh at the Region Theater. 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Buy your 226 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: tickets now by heading to Politics as Unusual dot bio. 227 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: That's Politics as Unusual dot bio. 228 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: Rick Wilson is the founder of the Lincoln Project in 229 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: the host of the Enemy's List, Welcome back to Fast 230 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: Politics Ribolls. 231 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 4: Hello, hollast, what's going on. 232 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 6: We're racing towards the end of the Trump Apocalypse. The 233 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 6: campaign is in his final three weeks. Shit is getting, 234 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 6: as the kids say, very real. And Donald Trump went 235 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 6: to Coachella and left ten thousand people stranded in the desert. 236 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 4: The vibes are anxious. 237 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: I do for me, do for our podcast listeners what 238 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: you do for me at least five times a day. 239 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 6: Look, guys, Trump's central strategy right now is to make 240 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 6: Democrats feel like the world is over. The election is lost. 241 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 6: We're all doomed. There's nothing ahead of us but a 242 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 6: thousand year Trump Reich. It's not true. We are moving 243 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 6: in the right direction. The race is close. Of course, 244 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 6: she's been a cannon for less than ninety days. Donald 245 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 6: Trump is one hundred percent well known brand we are 246 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 6: not behind. We are ahead in Key State. We are 247 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 6: moving further ahead in Key states. The zone flooding of 248 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 6: garbage polls from Trafalgar and Rasmus and all these other 249 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 6: one off instantaneous polling operations to alter the polling averages 250 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 6: is to depress you. It is to make you get 251 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 6: up in the morning and go, oh shit, well he's 252 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 6: gonna win again. I'm not going to bother to go 253 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 6: vote because what it does matter this is and look, 254 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 6: nothing in Donald Trump's world right now is going the 255 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 6: right direction. You had the chief of his the chairman 256 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 6: of his Joint chiefs of staff say he's a fascist. 257 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: You arek Milly, he is a fascist. He is a fascist. 258 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 6: And he didn't like walk around that like he has 259 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 6: fascist tendencies or he's fascist adjacent. He was like, no, 260 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 6: he is a fascist. 261 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 262 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: For Mark Milly, I just want you to take him 263 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: in here as someone who has worked in national security 264 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: and for Dick Cheney, Dear God, forgive all of us. 265 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: My poor grandfather, my poor communist grandfather in his grave, 266 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: going oi Gavault, But just talk to us about what 267 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: it means for someone like Mark Melly to go public. 268 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 6: One of the most sacred things in the senior leadership 269 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 6: of the American military is that they try to stay 270 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 6: out of politics. They do everything they can to stay 271 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 6: out of domestic politics. They're not And look, they may 272 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 6: have their inclinations Republican or Democrat, it may go back 273 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 6: and forth. You might be able to tell what their 274 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 6: inclinations are. I can tell you I knew one Air 275 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 6: Force Chief of staff who came across like a swaggering 276 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 6: two gun cowboy all the time and was a bleeding 277 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 6: heart progressive liberal Democrat. And I've known plenty of these 278 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 6: guys who would sooner die than come out and say, oh, 279 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 6: now I'm involved in politics, even once they're retired. But 280 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 6: General Millie, who is a very principled guy and who 281 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 6: learned one hard lesson that during the Loafiante Square Park 282 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 6: thing when he walked with Trump at Trump's insistence, he 283 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 6: recognized what this guy was trying to do a minute 284 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 6: too late. He's made up for it now. He's gone 285 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 6: back through this whole problem and addressed it in a 286 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 6: way that I think is really important. He is not 287 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 6: allowing Trump to skate on this. He's saying the F word. 288 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 6: He's saying that he's speaking the truth out loud. He's 289 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 6: not playing any games, and that's happening increasingly because that's 290 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 6: what Trump is. Don't be afraid of it. Folks call 291 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 6: him what he is, call him by his name, right right, 292 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 6: And look, the racism is now in is now up 293 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 6: at eleven in these speeches. I'm telling you my bet 294 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 6: that he's going to drop the end bomb at some 295 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 6: point in this campaign. I like my money on this 296 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 6: because it's that overt. I think all of it, Molly 297 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 6: comes down to one thing. Trump is. He cannot change. 298 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 6: He can never get new customers, fire up his base 299 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 6: and they'll maybe drag him across the line. And he's 300 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 6: to depress Kamala Harris's base so they don't come out 301 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 6: and vote. I persuading anybody. There's nobody new coming into 302 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 6: Trump's world and going wow, I suddenly. 303 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: Realized, I love fascism. It's the best. No, I agree. 304 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point. And we are 305 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: in a moment in American life where he is really 306 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: it's a real hood off moment for Trump. 307 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: I think that's fair. 308 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 6: He was a hoodoff moment he is he is right 309 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 6: now in the pointy white it's everything but the pointy 310 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 6: white hat. At this point, the Harry crosses. He's doing 311 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 6: a national rally, an American Bund rally at Madison Square Garden, 312 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 6: just like the American Nazi Party did the American the 313 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 6: Bund did back in the nineteen thirties. And this is 314 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 6: one of those examples of like history doesn't repeat, but 315 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 6: it rhymes with a really good beat. It's ridiculous. 316 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: Do you think just give me two seconds here, do 317 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: you think that? Like, what do you think the thinking 318 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: is Behindella? Couldchella, New York, Madison Square Garden? Like, what 319 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: do you think the thinking is on those? 320 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 6: He thinks it drives a lot of media. 321 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: That's the thing. 322 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 6: He thought Cochello would drive a lot of media, and 323 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 6: that what they and I did hear some somebody inside 324 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 6: the campaign, my friend Mike Madrid had the theory and 325 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 6: then I did confirm it with somebody in the campaign. 326 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 6: They thought Trump thought, in particular, there'd be a lot 327 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 6: of hispanics at the Coachella rally. Who really showed up 328 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 6: to the Coachella rally? Old Trump, old white Trump dudes 329 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 6: always do. Donald Trump's brand is very old and also elderly. 330 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 4: And not young. 331 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 6: I see whispers. 332 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: Jesse really wants us to talk and he's like been 333 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: telling me about this earlier. He wanted me to talk 334 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: about this too. I'm not sure why damning video shows 335 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: Rogerstone plotting a coup for November. I mean, damning video. 336 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: Does this surprise anyone? I would be surprised if there 337 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: wasn't a Rogerstone video. 338 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 6: You've got videos this weekend out from Roger Stone, from 339 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 6: a certain former national, from a certain form in general whose. 340 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: Name, because you're on court with him, because. 341 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 6: He's suing me for ten million dollars for being mean 342 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 6: to him on the internet the internet for retweeting someone. 343 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: Yes, well, don't be me and them on the internet. 344 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: That was the mistake. You've got Robert Stone. 345 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 6: You've got this guy. If you guys haven't yet encountered 346 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 6: Ivan Rayelkin, who's running around talking about how they're going 347 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 6: to storm precincts in Pennsylvania to make sure those dastardly 348 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 6: communist precinct agents aren't stealing Trump's votes with guns. 349 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: Of course, is that the guy who got arrested in 350 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: Coachella or is that someone else? 351 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 6: That's someone else? 352 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that guy seems great to but any look. 353 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 6: At you hear you have Roger Stone admitting on tape, yes, 354 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 6: we purge, We're purging a million of them. And Molly, 355 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 6: I'll give you just one guess as to the race, 356 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 6: and that's the composition of them. And when it comes 357 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 6: down to Roger Stone and so all of it really 358 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 6: comes down to I think, and I'm actually today I 359 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 6: heard the Justice Department was firing off letters to Virginia 360 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 6: and Florida and other places, suddenly waking the fuck up 361 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 6: twenty three days out before the election's here, Hello, finally 362 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 6: saying to these states that don't do this, you can't 363 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 6: do this. It's the elite. But as always with the 364 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 6: Justice Department, they are they never fail to show up 365 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 6: late without the right number of fire trucks. 366 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they seem really behind the behind and not all 367 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: that proactive. Now again, we don't know what's going on 368 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, but it certainly does that feel good. 369 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 6: Look, I will take any sand thrown in the gears 370 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 6: of the Republican effort to disenfranchise millions of Americans. Millions 371 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 6: of these people that are being taken off the ballot 372 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 6: are being done. It's being done in coordination with state 373 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 6: Republican parties curating the vote. Yeah, I've been told by 374 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 6: two separate sources that the Republican Party of Florida is 375 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 6: giving the lists of people who have to come off 376 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 6: of the ballot or off of the voter file to 377 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 6: the counties saying this is the list you're going to use, 378 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 6: and the governor's going to insist on it. 379 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: Jesus call me crazy, but it's not how any of 380 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: this is supposed to any of. 381 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 6: This is supposed to work. And look, you've got a 382 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 6: lot of these people that are telling you what they're 383 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 6: going to do. They are they're going to do what 384 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 6: they tell us they're going to do. Listen, I'm sanguine 385 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 6: about the elect I am ready for a really ugly 386 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 6: two months between Wednesday, the day after the election and 387 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 6: January sixth's. Yeah, that's going to get hairy, and it's 388 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 6: going to get ugly, and it's going to get I 389 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 6: think it's going to get very dangerous for the country 390 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 6: during that window. 391 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not what. That's not good. That is not good. 392 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 4: It's funny. 393 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: What's nice about talking to you is you give us 394 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: stuff to worry about that I actually have talked to 395 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: you quite. 396 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: A lot, so I was already worried about that. 397 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: But before that, I was just worried about the election. 398 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: But it's nice to know that in twenty days we 399 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: will be worried about a whole other slate. I really 400 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: appreciate that, because I was worried that I would be 401 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: worried about the wrong things. I want you to explain 402 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: to us a little bit about what's happening right now, 403 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: sort of with the rest of the election. 404 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 4: It's funny. 405 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: I was talking to someone who's a straight reporter today 406 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: who was saying, Democrats are you know, very gloom and dooming, 407 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: glooming and dooming. Sure, Then he goes, you know, this 408 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: is like his dark side. He goes, if the point, 409 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: if we're off a little bit in the polls, you 410 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: could see how Ted Cruise could lose. 411 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 6: I think that Ted Crews has a chance to lose. 412 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 6: It is in narrow path. It requires Colin Allred spending 413 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 6: every minute of the maining part of this campaign in 414 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 6: Harris County and the Houston metro area. And I'll just 415 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 6: be frank. He needs to go to every black church 416 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 6: in that area over and over again. He needs to 417 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 6: reve up African American turnout between three and five percent, 418 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 6: and Ted Cruz can't win if he does that. He 419 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 6: should not fuck around with anything else. Don't do any 420 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 6: don't take any votes in Washington, don't go out trying 421 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 6: to win over El Paso. Sit in Harris County. You're 422 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 6: going to get a huge percentage, almost a quarter of 423 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 6: the vote, a little more a quarter of the vote 424 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 6: out of the Houston metro area. I mean, occasionally dip 425 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 6: over to Dallas, but that turnout up. Ted Cruise is unpopular, 426 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 6: he's unlikable, he's old. 427 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: Let you get to say terrible things about Ted Cruise. 428 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: What's nice about bringing this up is now you're able 429 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: to go on. Yes, he's a fish, microwaiver. 430 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 4: We know it. Man. 431 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, but he's only able to exist in an 432 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 6: environment like Texas. Tech Cruz would be even in any 433 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 6: other red state. By this point, the guy doesn't give 434 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 6: a shit about Texas. He doesn't even live there anymore. 435 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 6: He lives in DC. He's got his podcasting in Empire 436 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 6: of his and that's what he cares about. The guy 437 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 6: doesn't spend a lot of time. He's disengaged from work 438 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 6: in the Senate because he knows he'll never get leadership 439 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 6: even when the Magas take over, and all of it 440 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 6: comes down to this like likability question in a big way. 441 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 6: And I think a lot of Texans have seen Ted 442 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 6: Shenanigans now for two cycles and he's an unlikable guy. 443 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 6: And look, Texas is in transition. If it's not this race, 444 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 6: it's won two years from now. A lot of Californians 445 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 6: are moving there, a lot of folks from the new 446 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 6: Northeastern moving there. A lot of younger people are moving there. 447 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 6: It's a young state, it's getting younger every day. It's 448 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 6: a Hispanic state, getting more Hispanic every day. And while 449 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 6: that doesn't mean one hundred per one to one correlation 450 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 6: with the Republican. 451 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: Votes DEMOCREDA votes, excuse me. 452 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 6: It certainly is a much more favorable environment that we 453 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 6: would have had eight years ago or even four years ago. 454 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: Talk to me about sort of what she's doing her 455 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: closing message, because I did this thing with Carvil last 456 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: night and Carvil was saying, what's her She has to 457 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: have a really strong closing message. 458 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: And also she's. 459 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: On her way through all of the swing states next week, 460 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: like a crazy swing stage, putting. 461 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 6: In the work. Okay, Yeah, that matters. That counts a lot. 462 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 6: Remember Donald Trump is still skipping days on the trail 463 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 6: two golf even right now this week. 464 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: Even now I thought they weren't letting him golf because 465 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: of security. 466 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 6: He's still He's still sneaking it in Florida. 467 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 4: I'm told at doraw. 468 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 6: But she's doing the work, She's getting out there. I 469 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 6: don't think of campaigns in the same way I think 470 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 6: of thought of campaigns even two years ago. I think 471 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 6: going on Call Her Daddy was more important for her 472 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 6: campaign than any ten rallies. You can't buy that level 473 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 6: of media coverage and that level of audience engagement. I 474 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 6: think going on Howard Stern as Scott Gallows of the day, 475 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 6: this is this maybe the year of the podcast presidency. 476 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 6: Trump is going on Crypto Bro podcasts and the Manisphere 477 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 6: podcasts and the Milk Brothers. Whatever the hell that is 478 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 6: sounds like amboys, milk boys. Excuse me THENLK. 479 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: I don't even I don't even know what any of that. 480 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 6: I'm just honestly, I don't even think you do want 481 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 6: to know about it these But she's out there talking 482 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 6: to people with audiences in the tens of millions. He's 483 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 6: out there talking to people of audiences of guys who 484 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 6: have a den crippling Hentai fetish in their mom's baseball. 485 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: Also, Trump did Let's talk about Trump's stranding people in 486 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: Coachella for a minute. How is that a good way? Like, 487 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: don't let the followers get mad that they're stranded somewhere 488 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: or now. 489 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 6: They're blaming the deep state, they're some they're blaming the 490 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 6: mayor of Riverside. They're blaming everybody else except for the 491 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 6: motherfucker who organized the buses for the event. And that 492 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 6: was Donald Trump's campaign. And when they left these people 493 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 6: hanging out in the desert, all of a sudden, the 494 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 6: tough guy. Look your feelings, They're like, I feel so 495 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 6: abed and it alone in the desert. I okay, boo 496 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 6: fucking who blame Donald Trump? You want to blame somebody, 497 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 6: Blame Donald Trump because Donald Trump was a motherfucker who 498 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 6: left you in the desert. Donald Trump was the guy 499 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 6: who didn't get the buses set up in a way 500 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 6: where they had enough capacity and enough gas in the 501 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 6: buses to do the entire operation. 502 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: So let's talk about Liz Cheney again, went on She's 503 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: really doing God's work here. 504 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: She went on the Sunday Shows. 505 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: She said she doesn't think that Maga Mike Johnson will 506 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: do his job certifying the election. She was in the 507 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: Republican leadership up until two years ago. I mean, this 508 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: is wild tough. 509 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 6: She knows who he is, She understands who Mike Johnson is. 510 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 6: She is correct, and let's remember on this same Sunday 511 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 6: shows this week, Mike Johnson said we had a peaceful 512 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 6: transition of power in twenty I want to say this, 513 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 6: like very bluntly to my friends in the media. Anytime 514 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 6: a Republican official says that you had a peaceful transfer 515 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 6: of power in twenty twenty, or says, well, Donald Trump 516 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 6: was shooting in the election, the solution is not to say, well, 517 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 6: let me ask you another question. The solution is to 518 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 6: frog marks them out of the fucking building as security 519 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 6: comes and takes them off the set, and that you 520 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 6: never invite them back, because these people are willfully engaging 521 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 6: in what they know, and the hosts and the networks 522 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 6: know to be egregious lies. The idea we had a 523 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 6: peaceful transfer of power in twenty twenty is truly epic 524 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 6: in its shamelessness less, having none of it. She's having 525 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 6: none of it. And look, I think her performance in 526 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 6: this role that she is in right now as a 527 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 6: truth teller about what the has become and is becoming, 528 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 6: is peerless. I think she's absolutely I think she's absolutely 529 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 6: gone out there and truely put country over party. 530 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, just agree with. 531 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 6: Kamala Harris on everything. I don't agree with on everything. 532 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 4: I know you don't you both well. 533 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm more of a sick guy it anyway, 534 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 6: But I own some glocks. But long story short, this 535 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 6: idea that you've got two types of people, the people 536 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 6: telling you the truth about the world actually looks like 537 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 6: the list Chinese and the people demanding that you accept 538 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 6: a lie that they know and to be a lie 539 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 6: and that they know that you are stuck in this 540 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 6: media generated self referential frame of oh god, if I'm 541 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 6: not if I'm not objective, and I don't pretend that 542 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 6: this is a real. No, you don't have to. Martha 543 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 6: Raddick should have said, get the fuck off my get 544 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 6: the fuck off my set, or Walker, get the fuck 545 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 6: off my set, leave go, you're out, shut the mic off. 546 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 6: That's the correct answer, and then that will be the 547 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 6: one thing that punishes the lie. These guys. For all 548 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 6: that they hate the mainstream media, they are desperate to 549 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 6: use it to overturn the freedoms and liberties that make 550 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 6: the mainstream possible. 551 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: Okay, well, so I play you guys one thing before 552 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: we go live from a Trump rally right now, All right, 553 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: this is Trump talking about a chart to have a 554 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 2: strong order, and. 555 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 5: That's why we had that beautiful chart. 556 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 4: Was my favorite yard in history. 557 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: Sleepy that I kiss it, just making a face I 558 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: sleep on day. 559 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 4: I kiss it. 560 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 6: Well and to that, Melania says, thank fucking good. 561 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 4: Written tomorrow night, Monday night. 562 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 6: Yes, indeed, Monday night, dude, nude all no, not. 563 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: Nope, not that is nope, not that. 564 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: Are you concerned about Project twenty twenty five and how 565 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: awful Trump's second term could be? 566 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 4: Well so are we, which is why. 567 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: We teamed up with iHeart to make a limited series 568 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: with the experts on what a disaster Project twenty twenty 569 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: five would be for America's future. Right now, we have 570 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: just released the final episode of this five episode series. 571 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: They're all about By looking up Molly Jong Fast Project 572 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five on YouTube, and if you are more 573 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 1: of a podcast person and not say a YouTuber. You 574 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: can hit play and put your phone in the lock 575 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: screen and it will play. 576 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 4: Back just like a podcast. All five episodes are online. 577 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Now we need to educate Americans on what Trump's second 578 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: term would or could do to this country. 579 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: So please watch it and spread the word. 580 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: Doug Emhoff is the second Gentleman of the United States. 581 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fast Politics, Doug. 582 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 7: I'm Mollie. 583 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: It's good to do this. 584 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 7: I'm a listener. Now I get to be beyond. So 585 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 7: this is cool. 586 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: Well, I'm delighted to have you and I think of 587 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: Now I'm not going to ask you to do the 588 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: borad voice. I'm not going to ask you, okay, I'm 589 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: just going to clear the air. 590 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 7: No asking you to do or was it or was 591 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 7: it there's a whole controversy. 592 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 4: Was it or was it for art? 593 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 7: Or was it just you know? Who knows? 594 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: It is so cool, all right. I was born in 595 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: the seventies hippie parents. They had a marriage that sort 596 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: of imploded over my mother's career, among other things. So 597 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: you have this really strong marriage where you have stopped 598 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: doing your career to support your spouse, like I also 599 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: have a marriage like that, but I'm just hoping you 600 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: could talk about what that is like. 601 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 7: So it's funny when this comes up. I don't think 602 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 7: it's so unique. This is just a husband and a 603 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 7: wife who love each other very deeply. We support each other, 604 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 7: and we are there for each other. We're there for 605 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 7: our family, and we've got this big, huge, blended family. 606 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 7: And I'm pretty old school. I mean, my main thing 607 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 7: in life is to protect those that I love and 608 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 7: be there for my family and support them. And so 609 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 7: because my wife, in her chosen career, went from United 610 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 7: States Center vice president, and because of that unbelievable career move, 611 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 7: it was a no brainer. I worked right up until 612 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 7: the time that Joe Biden called her to be on 613 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 7: the ticket. Very happily. I was very successful. I felt 614 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 7: left a full play to work. But for my partner, 615 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 7: who I love very much, who had this opportunity, it's 616 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 7: just part of who I am. Again, it's very old school. 617 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 7: I don't think it's a new thing. And this is 618 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 7: what you know you should do is be there for 619 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 7: those who love and this is something that was necessary 620 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 7: to support her. And it's okay. Now I get to 621 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 7: be second gentleman, and I get to support her as 622 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 7: a vice president. I get to travel the world representing 623 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 7: this country that I love so much. I get to 624 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 7: stand up for US Jews in this fight against anti Semitism. 625 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 7: I get to focus on issues regarding you know, the 626 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 7: Dobbs decision and encouraging men. Hey look, I'm focused on 627 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 7: this issue because it affects all of us, not just women, 628 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 7: women or dying, but it affects family planning, it affects 629 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 7: other rights potentially, which we saw in the Dops decision. 630 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 7: So it's given me an ability to have this platform, 631 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 7: which is really satisfying in terms of, you know, like 632 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 7: a career. It's actually just been an incredible experience. I 633 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 7: get to teach at Georgetown Law School to keep my 634 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 7: head in the legal profession. So this is this has 635 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 7: been great. This is not I have not become less 636 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 7: of a dude. I'm not less of a person because 637 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 7: of this. She loves me the same that I love her. 638 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 7: She supports me just as much as I support her. 639 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 7: So this is this is kind of business as usual. 640 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: We're both Jews and you're just talking about that. One 641 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: of the things I see a lot in my life 642 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: are fancied Jews, because that's a group that you know, 643 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 1: I sort of know, and Trump has managed to get 644 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: this insane message to them that somehow he is better 645 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: for Jews. 646 00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: Just make it make sense. 647 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 7: I've spoken on this several times. You know, Look, if 648 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 7: you go back to Charlottesville with the tiki torches and 649 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 7: Jews will not replace us. And when Trump got up 650 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 7: there and a woman died and he's saying to neo 651 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 7: Nazis and people holding tiki torches, saying Jews shall not 652 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 7: replace us, that they will fine people on that side 653 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 7: of it, this is who he is. He's had dinner 654 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 7: with known anti Semites. There's a long record of anti 655 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 7: Semitism and Donald Trump. And then just go back a 656 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 7: couple of weeks. He was literally at an event purporting 657 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 7: to be against anti Semitism, and he committed anti semitism 658 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 7: at that event, with the dual loyalties bs and blaming 659 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 7: the Jews when he loses the election. This is who 660 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 7: he is. And listen to what Kamala Harris is saying. 661 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 7: She just did a big call to the Jewish community today. 662 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 7: She gave beautiful remarks at our home on October seventh, 663 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 7: just listen to what she's saying, and like, I literally 664 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 7: have to tell people, Look, do you think I would 665 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 7: literally be married to someone who didn't support Jews or 666 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 7: Israel as a Jewish person? Come on, this is somebody 667 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 7: who supported Jews and Israel well before she met me. 668 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 7: She was the one who took me to Israel when 669 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 7: she was the United States Senator. She's the one who 670 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 7: pushed me to really lean into this fight against anti Semitism. 671 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 7: She's the one who pushed me to spearhead our White 672 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 7: House National Strategy to counter anti Semitism. And every day 673 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 7: since that horrific day of October seventh, even when it's 674 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 7: been so hard for me to do, push me to 675 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 7: speak out loudly in this now crisis of anti Semitism 676 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 7: since October seventh. I would not be doing this but 677 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 7: for Kamala Harris. 678 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: You have a really good sort of divorce, like one 679 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: of the great divorces. Your ex wife is really committed. 680 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: She was at the DNC. She is one of the 681 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: biggest supporters of Harris. As a child of divorce parents. 682 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: It is super moving to watch. How does that work? 683 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 7: Well, you're talking about Kirsten, She's incredible, so look, even 684 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 7: during our divorce, we committed to each other that we 685 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 7: were going to remain very close together and also be 686 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 7: there for the kids, and whatever other issues were happening, 687 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 7: we would just deal with those separately and make sure 688 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 7: that she and I had an excellent relationship and an 689 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 7: excellent relationship with the kids. And that's exactly what we 690 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 7: did from day one, and that carried over into when 691 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 7: I met Kamala, and so she accepted Kamala into her life. Personally, 692 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 7: they are close themselves and as parents, and you know, 693 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 7: everyone talks about Kamala to Mamala, but I love what 694 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 7: Ella said after a couple of years. She said, you're 695 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 7: a three headed parenting machine. And that's because of the 696 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 7: relationship of Kirsten and Kamala and the relationship that Kirsten 697 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 7: and I preserved and actually gotten closer over the years. 698 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 7: So she is a fierce protector of our family like 699 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 7: we all are. And you know, every time something comes 700 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 7: at us, she's the one out there pushing back because 701 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 7: that's how we roll, and that's how close we are. 702 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 7: And it's a testament to Kirsten and to Kamala, and 703 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 7: it's great and it's just really brought our family even 704 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 7: closer going through this experience the last two plus months, 705 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 7: it's brought us all closer. So you know, this is 706 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 7: it's been great. 707 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: Are the kids, they're like young adults. That has to 708 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: be a huge strine. 709 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 7: So Cole is thirty now and married, he's been married 710 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 7: for a year. El's twenty five. So it's interesting though, Molly, 711 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 7: they still need us, and especially now with all this 712 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 7: going on. So we're really whatever little free time we have, 713 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 7: we're really focused on Cole and Ella and Cole's wife Greenley, 714 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 7: and you know, Kamala's grand nieces, and we just want 715 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 7: to make sure that they know that we are still 716 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 7: there for them and we're going to be around. So 717 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 7: we're taking them on the trail. So I was just 718 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 7: on a west coast swing and I picked up Cole 719 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 7: in La and then he came to Phoenix, Arizona with 720 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 7: me for a couple of days with Greenley. Ella is 721 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 7: going to meet me this weekend in Philadelphia for an 722 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 7: event or two, which happens to be my birthday, so 723 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 7: I get to spend part of that day with her, 724 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 7: and so we're just including them and making sure we're 725 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 7: in constant contact. From the road. But yeah, I mean, look, 726 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 7: this whole experience has been surreal for all of us. 727 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 7: It came about so suddenly, and it's just been a 728 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 7: rocket ship for two plus months. But everyone understands we've 729 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 7: got to win this election. And between Kamala and I, like, 730 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,439 Speaker 7: there's very little couple time right now. We're not really 731 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 7: seeing each other. We're trying to FaceTime stay in touch. 732 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 7: But we know the mission, we know what our responsibility is. 733 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 7: We're very accountable to it. We spend whatever time we 734 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 7: have talking about I give her notes from the field, 735 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 7: here's what I'm hearing from these states I'm going to, 736 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 7: And it's all about what more can we do to 737 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 7: make sure we're doing everything we can as a couple 738 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 7: to win this election. That's it. That's all we're focused on, 739 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 7: right and. 740 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: That goes to the stakes of this election and the 741 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 1: case for why this is not a usual election. 742 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 7: She said it, This is not only the most important 743 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 7: election of our lifetimes, it's the most important election of 744 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 7: the nation's lifetime. And what I'm now saying is people 745 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 7: need to kind of what you're talking about with your 746 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 7: Jewish friends, we need to just get out of this 747 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 7: Trump has this fog that he's created, this fog of disinformation, gaslighting, 748 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 7: misinformation to try to run out the clock because they 749 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 7: try this character to her of her as she's not qualified, 750 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 7: she's not competent, she's not intelligent. All got debunked when 751 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 7: the American people got to see her in person and 752 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 7: got to know her, saw how she literally just kicked 753 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 7: his ass on that debate stage to a point where 754 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 7: he's now trying to run out the clock and run 755 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 7: away from her. Won't debate her again, won't go on 756 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 7: sixty minutes. He's avoiding her, and all he does is lie, 757 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 7: lies about the female relief. He's lying in, gaslighting and 758 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 7: creating this fog around him to just run out the clock. 759 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 7: People need to just push that fog away and just 760 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 7: see what's in front of them. You've got somebody with 761 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 7: a horrible president the first time. He's way more dangerous 762 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 7: now he's degrading in front of our eyes and the 763 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 7: things that he's talking about. Dictator on day one, terminating 764 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 7: the Constitution Project twenty twenty five, extrapolating out the Dobs 765 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 7: decision to take away more freedoms, damage to the environment, 766 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 7: more guns on the street. This is not a world 767 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 7: that any of us would want to live in. So 768 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 7: if people can actually see what's in front of them, 769 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 7: one hand, terrible president the first time, way more dangerous, chaotic, 770 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 7: will make everyone's life worse. And then Kamal Harris, who 771 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 7: has been a prosecutor for twenty years putting away murders, rapists, 772 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 7: and sexual offenders. She was an elected district attorney, elected 773 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 7: attorney general where she took on the transnational gangs at 774 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 7: the border, United States senator and vice president for four 775 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 7: years in which she's in the Oval office with the 776 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 7: President helping make decisions in the situation room. She's already 777 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 7: a world leader. This woman is eminently qualified. She has 778 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 7: exceeded the most unrealistically high expectations every step of the way, 779 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 7: DNC speech, debate, you name it. She's on a media 780 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 7: blitz right now. Do you want to learn more about her, 781 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 7: go watch Stern and all these things she's doing. And 782 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 7: she's relentless focused and determined. She's going to be a 783 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 7: president for everyone. She's not going to embarrass us on 784 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 7: the world stage. And this is why a bunch of 785 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 7: Republicans are for her. List Cheney, General McCrystal, and others. 786 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 7: So it's all out there. People just need to open 787 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 7: their eyes and see what's right in front of them. 788 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 7: In this way, it's a binary choice. 789 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 4: You guys have a gun, She's got a gun. 790 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, she's a responsible gun owner. 791 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 4: Is that super scary? 792 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 6: No. 793 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 7: She believes in the Second Amendment, and she's talked about 794 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 7: her career law enforcement and having a gun. But she's 795 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 7: responsible gun owner and also believes in reasonable and effective 796 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 7: gun safety laws. So children are not being murdered at school. 797 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 7: Do you know that the number one cause of death 798 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 7: for young people in this country is gun violence? Yeah, 799 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 7: and it's so preventable. So both things can be true. 800 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 7: You can be a responsible gun owner, you can believe 801 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 7: in the Second Amendment. Nobody's taking your guns away. She's 802 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 7: not doing that. But she wants to make sure that 803 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 7: gun violence is not the number one cause of death 804 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 7: for our young people in this country, that you can 805 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 7: go to school, and go to the market, and go 806 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 7: to the bank and not be gunned down by a 807 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 7: weapon of war. 808 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people Listener's podcast who are 809 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: voting for her, is not a question, but they have 810 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety, a lot. Number one anxiety is 811 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: the campaign, reactive to what they're seeing on the field, etc. 812 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 7: Oh definitely, that's why we are all out there each 813 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 7: and every day in all seven swing states. It should 814 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 7: not be this close, and people should have anxiety because 815 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 7: we can't have Donald Trump come back. So instead of 816 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 7: just quivering and doing what Dems often do, channel that 817 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 7: into action. Folks, Channel that into door knocking and sending 818 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 7: out messages and coming to some of these seven swing states, 819 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 7: come to the office, go canvas with us, and do 820 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 7: what she and I are doing each and every day 821 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 7: that we've been doing since July twenty first, NonStop, twenty 822 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 7: four to seven. This is what we're doing. So join 823 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 7: us in taking action, channeling that rage, that fear, that 824 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 7: anxiety into helping her win, rather than hand ringing. 825 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 4: Thank you, Doug no momently, Jesse Cannon. 826 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 2: My junk fast. So Trump is really really playing with 827 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: a hand that is dangerous. He's suggest that a heckler 828 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: should get the hell knocked out of her after a 829 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: rally the other day. 830 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to normalize fascist rhetoric or autocratic rhetoric, 831 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: but I would say, is it not the first time 832 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has hoped that hecklers would get beaten up. 833 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: He also did this earlier in twenty seventeen. I think 834 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: he called he said to be rough with a Heckler. Look, 835 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: it's part of the whole autocrat thing, right, that you 836 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: should punish people. He's low key encouraging his supporters to 837 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: dehumanize the other, to go after the other. This is 838 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: very much textbook stuff, but it's really dark and it 839 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: shows where we are. I think it's really important to 840 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: remember this is setting the table for worse stuff. Right. 841 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: He's not saying to go after a Heckler because it's 842 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: this one Heckler, Right, He's saying it because he wants 843 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: them to do the stuff they did at January sixth. 844 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: He is encouraging violence, and it's really scary. It's really bad, 845 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: and it's also just really from the autocraft playbooks. So 846 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: look again, this cannot be more clear. This is an 847 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: election about these stakes, not the odds. We should be 848 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 1: thinking about the stakes of this, not the odds. Voting canvassing, 849 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: talking to your friends, make a voting plan, make them 850 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: make voting plans. This is a real moment for American 851 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: democracy and is a real question of if we're going 852 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: to be able to keep it. That's it for this 853 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: episode of Fast Politics. Tune in every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, 854 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: and Saturday to hear the best minds in politics make 855 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: sense of all the chaos. 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