Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. Man,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you.
Speaker 1: Tim Schwartz back with us, Indiana native and Emmy Award
Speaker 1: winning television producer, videographer, author of a number of popular books,
Speaker 1: including Alien Artifacts, Tim Schwartz's Big Book of Extraterrestrial Encounters,
Speaker 1: The Last Journals of Nicola Tesla, and so many more.
Speaker 1: Tim is also the co host with Gene Steinberg on
Speaker 1: the radio show The Pedecast and his latest book that
Speaker 1: has just come out is called Mimics The Others among
Speaker 1: Us that he wrote with Sean's Castile. Tim, welcome back,
Speaker 1: my friend. Have you been why? Thank you George. I've
Speaker 1: been great and as always, it's a real pleasure talking
Speaker 1: with you again. I'm looking forward to this one. This
Speaker 1: one is a strange story, isn't it. It really is
Speaker 1: a strange story. But I tell you it's amazing once
Speaker 1: you get into this subject and start looking into it,
Speaker 1: how much our history has really been intertwined with whatever
Speaker 1: these things are. How did the subject matter come to
Speaker 1: your attention? Well, it first came to me years and
Speaker 1: years ago, and George you're probably too young to remember this,
Speaker 1: but you know, there was a time when you could
Speaker 1: go to the drug store and actually by quality paperback
Speaker 1: books on paranormal subjects, and they're usually about, you know,
Speaker 1: fifty seventy five cents each, just perfectly affordable for you know,
Speaker 1: a kid interested in the stuff. Well, I ran into
Speaker 1: this book called Our Haunted Planet by John Keel And
Speaker 1: in this book he had just a little section and
Speaker 1: it really was more of a stepping off point talking
Speaker 1: about other subjects, but he subtitled this section called Mimics
Speaker 1: of Man, and in it he said that what basics
Speaker 1: fact should be obvious from the foregoing, these entities and
Speaker 1: things are not necessarily from other planet. They're closely tied
Speaker 1: to the human race. And he said that living among
Speaker 1: us undetected maybe creatures not necessarily aliens with all the
Speaker 1: outward appearances of human beings, and he called the mimics
Speaker 1: of man, and the mimic would of necessary, of necessity
Speaker 1: be a lone wolf, likely living in large, bustling cities
Speaker 1: where it's eccentric and the odd may flourish unhindered. And
Speaker 1: that just fascinated me, you know, the idea that there
Speaker 1: could be things not human looking like human, but managing
Speaker 1: to live among us for whatever reasons. What are they
Speaker 1: lacking to him to not be human? Well that really
Speaker 1: all the ends on just exactly what we're dealing with,
Speaker 1: and that's what the subject of this of this book
Speaker 1: is because the the mimics have gone by all kinds
Speaker 1: of different names throughout history and and they've been with
Speaker 1: us almost probably almost from the very very beginning. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've called them things like gods, angels, demons, uh, fairies,
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial you know, you're more modern idea for them. So
Speaker 1: you know, it just hit. It really just all depends
Speaker 1: on what what these things are, and that's what we
Speaker 1: hope to try to uncover with this book. Are they
Speaker 1: intentionally disguising themselves? I yeah, definitely. Um, if if we
Speaker 1: are dealing with say like just you know, just just
Speaker 1: let's just frmally put this in the material world with
Speaker 1: maybe a creature that is um either prey or predator
Speaker 1: to people, you know, because humans at this point, you know,
Speaker 1: we've gotten to the point where there's no other predators
Speaker 1: to us on the planet. Well what if there is?
Speaker 1: What if there was a species that actually evolved right
Speaker 1: alongside us to prey on us. And you know, and
Speaker 1: we don't mean religious prayer either, doing exactly exactly you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, in the natural world, you know,
Speaker 1: you've got to say, like insects who actually will look
Speaker 1: just like their prey so they can sit around and
Speaker 1: wait for an I'm suspecting victim to go buy. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know that these things are you know,
Speaker 1: necessarily something that preys on us. They may look like
Speaker 1: us to protect themselves. Interesting, now you mentioned John Keel
Speaker 1: was one who wrote about them. Any others in history
Speaker 1: that have kind of discussed this, well, you know it's
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, you go and you look at,
Speaker 1: say like a fairy lore. I think is really a
Speaker 1: good example of these things that have interacted with society.
Speaker 1: Now when I say fairies, people just automatically go to,
Speaker 1: you know, like the Tingerbell type of creatures, you know,
Speaker 1: something you know, a little and short and glowing with
Speaker 1: wings flying around. But through most of history, when it
Speaker 1: comes to people dealing with these types of things, and
Speaker 1: like I said, they've called them says and lepre cons
Speaker 1: and the good people. The good people is really an
Speaker 1: excellent name to call them, because they have kind of
Speaker 1: lived on the outskirts of our society and interact with
Speaker 1: us when they want to, not when we want to.
Speaker 1: And they've interacted with us in all kinds of different ways,
Speaker 1: from actually either buying or stealing food from us to
Speaker 1: actually having romantic relationships with people. Geez. Yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: mean that's that's a telling point too, because they could
Speaker 1: be related to us in some way. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: because most of the time, you know, interspecies romance is
Speaker 1: just an't work. Do they live among us or are
Speaker 1: they down in some cavern or something like that, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe a little both. You know, there's there's the idea
Speaker 1: that they could be a race of say like a
Speaker 1: cousin species of humans of hominence and albeit a more
Speaker 1: gentle species, and at some time in our ancient past
Speaker 1: that they decided that they're going to get the heck
Speaker 1: away from us, you know, we're too violent, and they
Speaker 1: at first they lived on the outskirts of society, in
Speaker 1: their cities and villages or what have you. You know,
Speaker 1: we're out you know, in the desert or in the mountains.
Speaker 1: But as people became more you know, the world became
Speaker 1: more populous with with Homo sapiens. This species said, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, we got to get out of here and
Speaker 1: maybe moved underground or under the ocean. They or some
Speaker 1: could actually have moved in, you know, with us and
Speaker 1: live amongst us. I mean, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: stories that we've collected in this book of people having
Speaker 1: sightings of things that appear to be human but don't
Speaker 1: act like humans. Do these mimics know what they are? Oh? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I think they definitely do. Whether again, whether or not
Speaker 1: we're dealing with if you know, material, physical beings, uh, paranormal, extraterrestrial,
Speaker 1: what have you. These things definitely know that they are different,
Speaker 1: and they use that difference to their advantage. You know.
Speaker 1: The I think one of the things that has allowed
Speaker 1: them to exist all this time is their ability to subterfuge.
Speaker 1: You know, they they are very good at disguising themselves.
Speaker 1: They're very good at staying hidden until they want to
Speaker 1: be seen. Well with Tim Schwartz, co author of the
Speaker 1: latest book, Mimics the Others among Us, these beings, do
Speaker 1: they lack a soul? Oh? Wow, that's uh, that's really
Speaker 1: the million dollar question. Do we have a soul? We
Speaker 1: do right, right? Um, I think that they probably do.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I I think that whatever they are again,
Speaker 1: whether they're physical or you know, interdimensional or what had you,
Speaker 1: they probably have a soul just like us. Did they
Speaker 1: come to us in craft or were they born on
Speaker 1: this planet? Well, that's one of the things that in
Speaker 1: this book that we really hoped to do, is to
Speaker 1: detangle the others from the whole u UFO phenomena. In
Speaker 1: modern times, the two have really become intertwined with with
Speaker 1: stories of human looking extraterrestrials or the men in Black
Speaker 1: even things like that. So I think that and you know, George, uh,
Speaker 1: your guests really is as good as mine. I mean,
Speaker 1: there could be a factor that are strictly extraterrestrial. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to throw that idea out, but I think
Speaker 1: that probably at least the major aspect of the phenomena
Speaker 1: of the Mimics is that this is something that has
Speaker 1: been on our planets probably as long as we have.
Speaker 1: And this, of course book is not a nonfictional novel.
Speaker 1: I mean a fictional novel. This is a nonfictional book,
Speaker 1: isn't it. This is correct, Yes, this is this is
Speaker 1: nonfiction and we've myself Sean Castile, And as you said
Speaker 1: in the opening, I mean, you know, we've got some
Speaker 1: really great writers like Scott Corrallis and Nigel Watson, you know,
Speaker 1: people like that who hitters. Yea, Yeah, contributed to this
Speaker 1: book with these these fascinating stories, again stretching back across
Speaker 1: time really long before say like the modern UFO era.
Speaker 1: But I think that the modern era has really helped
Speaker 1: bring this idea to the forefront. You have highlighted some
Speaker 1: examples of individuals who have had encounters with these beings,
Speaker 1: one being the late remote viewer Ingo Swan. Ingo Swan,
Speaker 1: who who are very well known for working with the
Speaker 1: government intelligence services with his remote viewing abilities. He was
Speaker 1: one time task to actually remote view the dark side
Speaker 1: of the Moon and given very specific latitude and longitudes
Speaker 1: lunar latitudes and longitudes. And when he actually started viewing
Speaker 1: this location, he said that he saw human looking beings
Speaker 1: on the surface of the moon without what didn't appeared
Speaker 1: to like if they had any kind of protection on them.
Speaker 1: And the frightening thing to him was that they became
Speaker 1: aware that he was looking at them. So after this
Speaker 1: initial encounter, when Ingo was in Los Angeles, with a
Speaker 1: friend and in a supermarket he came across this, as
Speaker 1: he described her, an extremely beautiful woman wearing you know,
Speaker 1: shorts and a tank top and just just absolutely stunning.
Speaker 1: And he said that as he got closer, she was
Speaker 1: looking at the avocados, very interested in the avocados. When
Speaker 1: he got closer, he was struck with a feeling of terror,
Speaker 1: overwhelmed his senses, and he got the impression first of all,
Speaker 1: that this woman was not human, that she looked human,
Speaker 1: looked like a very beautiful human, but she wasn't and
Speaker 1: that if she became aware that he knew that what
Speaker 1: she was, his life would probably be in danger. Interesting
Speaker 1: are they working among us? I mean, do they have jobs?
Speaker 1: Do they have social Security cards? You know? That was
Speaker 1: one of the things that the early contacted movement, starting
Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties, with people like George Damski and
Speaker 1: Howard Menger, talked quite a bit about that these beings
Speaker 1: space brothers as they called them, looked so human that
Speaker 1: they actually managed to infiltrate our society, living amongst us,
Speaker 1: working with us for whatever reasons. Now, of course, the contactees,
Speaker 1: you know, the space brothers, were telling them that you
Speaker 1: know they were there to help mankind that we were
Speaker 1: going to destroy ourselves with atomic weapons, and that they
Speaker 1: actually were using their influence because they looked so much
Speaker 1: like us within business and politics, to help steer us
Speaker 1: away towards a more peaceful society. And I think that
Speaker 1: various governments really took this to heart, that we were
Speaker 1: being infiltrated. And of course this idea in nineteen fifties,
Speaker 1: I mean it fit right in with the cold or
Speaker 1: mentality that was going on at the time, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean not only were government's afraid that, say, the
Speaker 1: Communist you know, we're you know, hiding everywhere. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were so paranoid about it too, right, So I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, think about you worried about the Soviet Union
Speaker 1: infiltrating this What about a superior race of extraterrestrials that
Speaker 1: that that could be living amongst us, That that was
Speaker 1: a big worry. What did you find in your research
Speaker 1: with the book, Tim that was so profound it still
Speaker 1: has you shaking your head? Well, I think the most
Speaker 1: profound thing about all of this book is just really
Speaker 1: how um pervasive this whole phenomena is that um that
Speaker 1: that we have sharing the planet with us another intelligence,
Speaker 1: all right, that we're not alone. Not only are we
Speaker 1: not alone probably in the universe, but that we share
Speaker 1: this planet with another, possibly superior intelligence that's been with
Speaker 1: us this entire time, that has been possibly manipulating society
Speaker 1: through a religion, culture, other types of things, and that
Speaker 1: our history is probably just as much part of their
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