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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. Man,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you.

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Speaker 1: Tim Schwartz back with us, Indiana native and Emmy Award

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Speaker 1: winning television producer, videographer, author of a number of popular books,

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Speaker 1: including Alien Artifacts, Tim Schwartz's Big Book of Extraterrestrial Encounters,

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Speaker 1: The Last Journals of Nicola Tesla, and so many more.

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Speaker 1: Tim is also the co host with Gene Steinberg on

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Speaker 1: the radio show The Pedecast and his latest book that

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Speaker 1: has just come out is called Mimics The Others among

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Speaker 1: Us that he wrote with Sean's Castile. Tim, welcome back,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Have you been why? Thank you George. I've

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Speaker 1: been great and as always, it's a real pleasure talking

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Speaker 1: with you again. I'm looking forward to this one. This

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Speaker 1: one is a strange story, isn't it. It really is

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Speaker 1: a strange story. But I tell you it's amazing once

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Speaker 1: you get into this subject and start looking into it,

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Speaker 1: how much our history has really been intertwined with whatever

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Speaker 1: these things are. How did the subject matter come to

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Speaker 1: your attention? Well, it first came to me years and

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Speaker 1: years ago, and George you're probably too young to remember this,

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Speaker 1: but you know, there was a time when you could

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Speaker 1: go to the drug store and actually by quality paperback

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Speaker 1: books on paranormal subjects, and they're usually about, you know,

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Speaker 1: fifty seventy five cents each, just perfectly affordable for you know,

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Speaker 1: a kid interested in the stuff. Well, I ran into

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Speaker 1: this book called Our Haunted Planet by John Keel And

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Speaker 1: in this book he had just a little section and

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Speaker 1: it really was more of a stepping off point talking

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Speaker 1: about other subjects, but he subtitled this section called Mimics

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Speaker 1: of Man, and in it he said that what basics

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Speaker 1: fact should be obvious from the foregoing, these entities and

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Speaker 1: things are not necessarily from other planet. They're closely tied

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Speaker 1: to the human race. And he said that living among

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Speaker 1: us undetected maybe creatures not necessarily aliens with all the

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Speaker 1: outward appearances of human beings, and he called the mimics

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Speaker 1: of man, and the mimic would of necessary, of necessity

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Speaker 1: be a lone wolf, likely living in large, bustling cities

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Speaker 1: where it's eccentric and the odd may flourish unhindered. And

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Speaker 1: that just fascinated me, you know, the idea that there

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Speaker 1: could be things not human looking like human, but managing

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Speaker 1: to live among us for whatever reasons. What are they

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Speaker 1: lacking to him to not be human? Well that really

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Speaker 1: all the ends on just exactly what we're dealing with,

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Speaker 1: and that's what the subject of this of this book

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Speaker 1: is because the the mimics have gone by all kinds

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Speaker 1: of different names throughout history and and they've been with

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Speaker 1: us almost probably almost from the very very beginning. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've called them things like gods, angels, demons, uh, fairies,

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Speaker 1: extraterrestrial you know, you're more modern idea for them. So

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Speaker 1: you know, it just hit. It really just all depends

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Speaker 1: on what what these things are, and that's what we

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Speaker 1: hope to try to uncover with this book. Are they

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Speaker 1: intentionally disguising themselves? I yeah, definitely. Um, if if we

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Speaker 1: are dealing with say like just you know, just just

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Speaker 1: let's just frmally put this in the material world with

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Speaker 1: maybe a creature that is um either prey or predator

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Speaker 1: to people, you know, because humans at this point, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've gotten to the point where there's no other predators

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Speaker 1: to us on the planet. Well what if there is?

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Speaker 1: What if there was a species that actually evolved right

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Speaker 1: we don't mean religious prayer either, doing exactly exactly you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know that these things are you know,

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Speaker 1: necessarily something that preys on us. They may look like

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Speaker 1: us to protect themselves. Interesting, now you mentioned John Keel

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Speaker 1: was one who wrote about them. Any others in history

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Speaker 1: like I said, you know, you go and you look at,

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Speaker 1: say like a fairy lore. I think is really a

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Speaker 1: good example of these things that have interacted with society.

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Speaker 1: Now when I say fairies, people just automatically go to,

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Speaker 1: And they've interacted with us in all kinds of different ways,

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Speaker 1: maybe moved underground or under the ocean. They or some

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Speaker 1: act like humans. Do these mimics know what they are? Oh? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I think they definitely do. Whether again, whether or not

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Speaker 1: they lack a soul? Oh? Wow, that's uh, that's really

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Speaker 1: that probably at least the major aspect of the phenomena

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Speaker 1: And this, of course book is not a nonfictional novel.

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Speaker 1: I mean a fictional novel. This is a nonfictional book,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. This is correct, Yes, this is this is

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Speaker 1: nonfiction and we've myself Sean Castile, And as you said

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Speaker 1: in the opening, I mean, you know, we've got some

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Speaker 1: really great writers like Scott Corrallis and Nigel Watson, you know,

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Speaker 1: people like that who hitters. Yea, Yeah, contributed to this

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Speaker 1: book with these these fascinating stories, again stretching back across

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Speaker 1: But I think that the modern era has really helped

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Speaker 1: examples of individuals who have had encounters with these beings,

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Speaker 1: one being the late remote viewer Ingo Swan. Ingo Swan,

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Speaker 1: who who are very well known for working with the

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Speaker 1: government intelligence services with his remote viewing abilities. He was

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Speaker 1: And the frightening thing to him was that they became

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Speaker 1: Do they have social Security cards? You know? That was

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Speaker 1: going to destroy ourselves with atomic weapons, and that they

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Speaker 1: actually were using their influence because they looked so much

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Speaker 1: infiltrating this What about a superior race of extraterrestrials that

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Speaker 1: with the book, Tim that was so profound it still

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Speaker 1: has you shaking your head? Well, I think the most

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Speaker 1: how um pervasive this whole phenomena is that um that

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Speaker 1: that we have sharing the planet with us another intelligence,

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Speaker 1: all right, that we're not alone. Not only are we

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Speaker 1: not alone probably in the universe, but that we share

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Speaker 1: us this entire time, that has been possibly manipulating society

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Speaker 1: through a religion, culture, other types of things, and that

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Speaker 1: our history is probably just as much part of their

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