1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: The Danny Masterson of it all. I've had an education 2 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: on something I knew nothing about. I've thought all about this. 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: I've thought about so many aspects of it. I knew 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Danny Masterson as a name who was on a show, 5 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: and then in the background a guy who was accused 6 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: of rape. So all of a sudden, the headlines are 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: saying that he's convicted of raping multiple women. And then 8 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: started seeing headlines about Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher, which 9 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm now learning made the convictions bigger, like they brought 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: more attention to something that might have gone away in 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: a few days. They got killed and dragged because they 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: wrote a letter to a judge to reduce a sentence, 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: along with Billy Baldwin and some other people, because Danny 14 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Masterson's mother asked this of them. I don't I know 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: that Ashton was a very close friend of Danny Masterson, 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,279 Speaker 1: maybe a best friend. They've worked together, they ran together, 17 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: they dated girls together. They were in the same bro 18 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: pack that I guess I'm now hearing at tof for Grace, 19 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: who I love and interviewed, was not in So people 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: are speculating as to why Mila and Ashton would get involved. 21 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: And I initially thought, I understand why the mother reached out, 22 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: and I initially I didn't think that deeply into it, thought, oh, 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: he's kind of reaching out because maybe his friend he 24 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: believes will have been punished and suffered and pay the price. 25 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: And I kind of like almost understood it. I wasn't 26 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: really paying that much attention. And then I humanized it 27 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: and personalized it daughters of mothers and future mothers, and 28 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: like I was with Paul and he was reading it 29 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: to me, and I thought, what the hell. I started 30 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: digging down into the timeline and then thinking about them, 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: thinking about this guy free for all of these years, 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: with a kid and a wife, going to Starbucks, living 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: his free life for twenty years while they knew this, 34 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: and they were, or at least some of them were, 35 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: in scientology and kind of being told they would handle 36 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: it behind the scenes and not through law enforcement, and 37 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: that they had one of them had to meet with 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Danny Masterson and it was all like hush hush, and 39 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: it's so Hollywood, hush hush. It's like very Harvey Weinstein, 40 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: very nda, very paid people off, very belittling, very entitled 41 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Hollywood money man, power, and like, I got really angry, 42 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: and it triggered me, and it made me think of 43 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: so many things in my own life and in my 44 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: own childhood that I've never discussed, and I would if 45 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: I were those And I didn't know how rare convictions are, 46 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: but of course they are, because it occurred to me 47 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: how often people won't even say something because they know 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: no one will believe them, And then if someone does 49 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: believe them, which they won't, or belittles them, how are 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: they going to prove it? How are they going to 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: get a conviction? And then I started hearing about how 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: rare it is to get a conviction, the odds of 53 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: getting a conviction, and that like, then these girls who 54 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: are human beings, who were raped and held a gunpoint 55 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: and drugged with vomiting their hair, that they saw a 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: conviction and after all these years they feel a validation 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: and a freedom and a vindication after having to suffer 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: with this man paying no price, and with his wife 59 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: and then his wife's siblings husband Billy Baldwin, because Shina 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: Phillips is married to Billy Baldwin and China is Biju Phillips, 61 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: Danny's wife's sister, I know that was long winded, but 62 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: who cares? But so writing letters and this guy just 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: walk in the streets and then they have to hear 64 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: this really powerful couple that like are an architectural digest 65 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: and have hundreds of millions of dollars who were part 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: of his bro pack write letters to like belittle the 67 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: sentencing and what they went through. It's effectively belittling that. 68 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: It's a belittling the justice system that they fought so 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: hard to make work for them, that they thought would 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: never work for them, and that they were in the 71 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: scientileogy culled it all is crazy. So Lea Remedy wrote, 72 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: spoke out, and then I thought about what she said, 73 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: and when Christina Ricci said about just because these douchebag 74 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: grows that are sometimes nice to us doesn't mean that 75 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: they're not pieces of shit. And if I were those girls, 76 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: I'd want him to die and suffer and rot, not 77 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: just like go to jail, but to suffer, and every 78 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: day I'd want him to suffer more like that's the truth, 79 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: not really any compassion, just complete wanting him to suffer. 80 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: And so and I know that because I was and 81 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: this is I need to put a period at the 82 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: end of the sentence and start a new sentence. I 83 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: was abused for ten years. I was emotionally, verbally, mentally tortured, 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: hundreds of emails to the point where there was a TRORO, 85 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: there was an arrest, and for years lawyers and people said, well, 86 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he can prove it because 87 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: he's not like putting cigarettes out on you, and it's 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: just that someone being a complete asshole and a dick. 89 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: It ruled my life. It ruined my life. It doesn't 90 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: matter that I had money. You can't make judges move 91 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: more quickly or lawyers do things more quickly because you 92 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: have money. And if you have family involved in a situation, 93 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: you have to tread more lightly than if you're just 94 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: a normal solo person. And you get put on gag orders. 95 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: People use like gag orders so you can't speak and 96 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: NDAs so you can't speak and say things that have 97 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: happened to you. And many people, including myself, get intimidated 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: and think that like, you can't speak your truth about 99 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: what's happening to you because there'll be some sort of ramifications, 100 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: and you have to be able to speak your truth 101 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: if you're being abused, and I don't know why. I 102 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: was told by so many successful lawyers that I had 103 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: to keep quiet about certain things happening to me because 104 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: I was under an NDA and a gag order. And 105 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: it's like an abusive power And often when a person 106 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: isn't doesn't have MONE and they're dealing with someone who does, 107 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: it's often the person who feels like they're not in 108 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: the power position, so they'll do anything and by any 109 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: means necessary, get the power position. I've been told, you're ugly, 110 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: you're old, you're a hag, you're disgusting. I've had a 111 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: person crawl into bed next to me and stare at 112 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 1: me and refuse to get out and do and follow 113 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: me and hack me and email ad nauseum people around 114 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: me to the tune of multiple seas and desist And 115 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: had to get law involved in hundreds and hundreds of 116 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: abusive emails and texts and anti semitism and just abuse 117 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: and taunting and trauma and in front of you know, 118 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: there's certain things I don't want to say because of 119 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: my position as a parent, but like real mental trauma. 120 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: And I had notebooks with sections, different sections about different 121 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: types of abuse, and I was extremely organized and had 122 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: copious notes, and I did it myself. I got that 123 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: all together. I got that all organized, and I was 124 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: threatened and I took it to the police, and it 125 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: went all the way to the district attorney, and it 126 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: was a tro and it was an arrest, and I 127 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: was abused. And I don't talk about it enough because 128 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: it helps people to know that someone like me, who 129 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: has power and influence and money, was tortured and tortured 130 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: because I'm a public person, and that I would be 131 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: that this person would have me in a corner crying 132 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: and my publicers would be crying because blackmail and took 133 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: all these emails that were hacked into that we're going 134 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: to use against me, Like it was a nightmare. And 135 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: the reason I say this is that I know that 136 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: some of you know this that like it affects you 137 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: for years after, like you have a like a flint reflex. 138 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: You think like there are certain things that you were 139 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: told to you about how disgusting you are, and how 140 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: like certain things that when someone abuses you for so long, 141 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: you kind of even though you know it's wrong, it's 142 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: been repeated so many times that you like feel like 143 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: it's true. And it's the upside down also, where you 144 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: just you're trained to be treated a certain way and 145 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: told that, and then you have inability to trust other people. 146 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: You're just always waiting for someone to fuck you over 147 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: and be abusive, and you really have a lack of 148 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: ability to trust. And I grew up in a household 149 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: where I've seen like wrist slashing, the cops at my 150 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: house all the time, a woman be dragged down the 151 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: hall and beaten with a phone, you know, and called 152 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: the sea word, and had you know, knife fights and 153 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: punching of fists through glass and like just crazy stuff 154 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: that I've seen, like really bad. I've seen guns. I've 155 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: had the mafia chasing after members of my family, like 156 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: I've seen cocaine use and like gambling to another level. 157 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: And I never say it out loud, Like the way 158 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: I was raised is despicable. I shouldn't have been at 159 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: nightclubs at thirteen. I shouldn't have been alone. Yeah, at nightclubs. 160 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been alone with men that work as 161 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: gamblers or jockey agents or bookies at the race track 162 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: as my caretakers. I should That puts you in a 163 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: sexual position that is not appropriate. And will damage you 164 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. And I shouldn't have 165 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: been dropped off with horse grooms to live at their 166 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: house for weeks to come. I shouldn't have seen violent 167 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: physical abuse to the point where it would end up 168 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: in hospitalization. And then you'd see the same two people 169 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: having sex and hear it and be around it. Like 170 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: if this stuff fucks you up the rest of your life, 171 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: like sexually, emotionally, all of it. Like, it's just we 172 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: are such fragile yet also strong and survivor creatures, but 173 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: you have to fight. And the fact that these women 174 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: had to fight for themselves. They had to go and 175 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: prove it. It was on them. It was on them, the 176 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: burden of proof of them to provide emails and evidence 177 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: and and and people they told and what happened that 178 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: night and vomit and drugs and guns, and like they 179 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: had to prove it. I'm sure many people said they 180 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: were sluts and liars and all the shit, and that 181 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: the guy that, oh, but he's just a bro, he's 182 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: just a player. He's just like all the shit. It's 183 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: just the onus is on us, and it's often women, 184 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's a nightmare. But you stay the course, 185 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: you be organized, you have your shit and you pull 186 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: it together, you figure it out, and there is a 187 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: way to get justice. And they got justice. So I 188 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: was wrong to think that it made sense that a 189 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: mother was gonna call Ashton and Mila. I put the 190 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: whole puzzle together, and I was dead wrong, and I 191 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: didn't know so much. So it was at one time 192 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: on social media where I really did experience a dialogue 193 00:10:51,679 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: and a conversation and learned a tremendous amount. I was 194 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: in a relationship where my daughter and I were in 195 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: a room when a family member overdosed on oxy and 196 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: dinner just went just continued as if nothing had gone wrong. 197 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: The person dropped dead, went to hospital, dropped dead. Shortly thereafter, 198 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: we found out that another family member had been arrested 199 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: by the FBI for being on underage girl pedophile sites. 200 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: And I kept all of this in when wanting this 201 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: to be something that wasn't to be around my child, 202 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: and I just felt like I was stifling things because 203 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: of a gag order. And it's hard when you have 204 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: a child to talk. My daughter doesn't listen to my podcast, 205 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: my daughter doesn't read headlines, thank God, But like, there's 206 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure many of you have been in situations with 207 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: really challenging divorces, abusive situations, and you keep your fucking 208 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: mouth shut when you know you shouldn't because you should 209 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: be a person who uses your voice. But using your 210 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: voice isn't always easy because you have other elements. You 211 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: have family members, you have maybe parents. People protect people 212 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: protect parents that abuse them, People protect spouses or ex 213 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: spouses because of kids. Like, there's a million reasons why 214 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: people don't speak up. You guys are so right when 215 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: you say it's not that easy to speak out. It's 216 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: actually true. It's not easy because also you'll be criticized, scrutinized, 217 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: you go on you go on trial, and you have lawyers. 218 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: Then look at your character. So you wore a provocative 219 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: top and hold hell, the cocktail means you weren't raped, Like, 220 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: what the fuck? It's crazy. A lot has provoked me lately, 221 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: A lot has provoked me. This seems unrelated, it's not 222 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 1: in the same category. But that girl with Quel was 223 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: a person who cheated with a guy on a friend 224 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: it happened, then she was emotionally abused. Like that doesn't 225 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: make that okay. Either like there's just so many things 226 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: that are not okay, and I don't know why that 227 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: this like show, this podcast and interviews and something has 228 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: like broken me open lately, and I just feel like 229 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not fully speaking my entire truth just because 230 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm treading lightly. But I couldn't sleep last night. I've 231 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: been going to bed really early, and then last night 232 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: I was up till twelve. And it's something about this 233 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: Masterson thing and something about Christina Ricci like dipping in 234 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: and talking like about abuse adjacent to hers. Like we're 235 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: these women that are sort of like dabbling in it, 236 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: and we just we're not ready to just like open 237 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: our mouths and fully be about it because we have 238 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: to understand why, because not everything needs to be said. 239 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: But there's just like if it could help girls know that, 240 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: like you got to fucking fight for it, open your mouth, 241 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: take the heat, take the beating. It's worth it. You 242 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: could get a conviction, a vindication. But it takes a 243 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: lot of work and it takes fortitude. And so it's 244 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: correct that entitled celebrities asking for a reduction would be 245 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: a complete violation. I get that, And then you watch 246 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: these videos going down this rabbit hole of Ashton Kutcher 247 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: saying that he and the skuy Danny had a side 248 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: bet that he, who was nineteen years old, would French 249 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: kiss me Lacunis on the show, and they're all joking 250 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: about it, And I have a thirteen year old daughter 251 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: and they're joking about it because different shit was okay 252 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: back then. Different shit was okay back then, where like 253 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: it was okay to say nice twins to somebody at 254 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: an office about her tits. And you have any idea 255 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: how many producers have tried to sleep with me, how 256 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: many of my fathers, my father's horse trainer friends have 257 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: tried to sleep with me, have groped me, have actually 258 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: done inappropriate things to me as a young girl. That 259 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: like that was a different time, Like you just kept 260 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: your fucking mouth shut. And that's why me too was 261 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: so entirely powerful. There's a reckoning in many areas. So 262 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: it was you know, black lives matter and me too. 263 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: It's not over. It doesn't mean, oh yeah, we got 264 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: through that thing where like white men were the devil 265 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: and the enemies, and we like now we're onto a 266 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: new thing, Like no, we're going deeper. It's not fucking okay. 267 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: So it wasn't okay for two celebrities and I was wrong, 268 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: And it's not okay for a girl to be abused 269 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: emotionally on national intelligence, on national television, you know, and 270 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: people profit off of it. Sorry, it's not it's not. 271 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: When I started this podcast, I said, I checked my 272 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: bank account. I'm good. I have a voice, I have 273 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: a microphone, and my bank account. The checks have cleared. 274 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: So if I go down, I'm going down in a 275 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: fucking blaze of glory having said my truth and not 276 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: just stifling myself all the time for fear of cancelation. 277 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: And you signed up for this. These people didn't sign 278 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: up for all this shit. If you're being abused and 279 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: you're being treated poorly, you're not. You didn't sign up 280 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: for it, no matter what, no matter what you wanted, 281 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: no matter what fame you wanted, no matter what money 282 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: you wanted, no matter what, you didn't fucking sign up 283 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: for it.