1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: We're told that Apple plans to slow hiring and spending 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: next year and some of its divisions to cope with 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: potential economic downturn. And breaking the story was Mark German, 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Technology reporter. He joins US Live. So congrats Mark 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: on a on a scoop story that that did play 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: big in the markets. But it's it's what's interesting I 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: think is that, as you say, it's not really across 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: the board, some divisions will be affected more than others. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Let me start off by asking with this touch research 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: and development. Yeah, books, so much for having me. Great 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: to get that story out there for our readers. So 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: these spending cuts are going to apply to hiring specifically 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: as well as budgets, and in some cases those budgets 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: could apply to R and D. Now a portion of 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: Apple's R and D budget is people, right, So if 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: you want to look at it that way, that that 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: is that is the case. So definitely across several teams 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: across Apple right globally, Um, maybe not there more advanced 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: teams for let's say developing their augmented reality and virtual 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: reality efforts, or perhaps their autonomy efforts and artificial intelligence, 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: but some of the more, you know, legacy businesses, maybe services, 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: maybe hardware, maybe software. You might see some of the 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: spending growth decline there, and perhaps why we we saw 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: such moves in the US on the back of that story, Mark, 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: I wonder you know, obviously a headline like that, a 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: spending slowdown, hiring slowdown is something that could move the market, 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: But why is it so rare? Is it rare an 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Apple for them to do something like this, It's incredibly 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: rare for Apple. I've covered the company probably for I 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: don't know, twelve thirteen, I can't remember at this point years, 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: and there's only been a few times that I've been 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: aware of such slowdowns. Uh. There was a little bit 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: of a slowdown pre when the iPad came out. Remember 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: the economy was on doing so hot in the US 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: during that time after oh eight, Uh, and then you 36 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: saw an iPhone sales slow down at the beginning of 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: calendar and so there was a bit of a hiring 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: slowdown then too. But this is pretty rare for this company. 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: Apple historically does not to layoffs. They've probably laid all 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: fewer than a thousand people over the last twenty years, right, 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: That is minimal comparatively yeah. I mean, given what we 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: saw from Microsoft and and Facebook meta, uh, it's not 43 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: too surprising Um and the market. I don't think we 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: can read too much into the two percent downturning Apple 45 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: because the stock had really had a lot of momentum 46 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: here of late. We mentioned it was down seventy year 47 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: to day, but it did go from one fifty and 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: a pretty short period. The Apple has had momentum, and 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: you typically see this ahead of their fall products season, 50 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: So September October November is going to be a really 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: intense time for Apple product wise, and obviously products are 52 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: WHI drive the stock. You're going to see four new 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: iPhone fourteen models around mid September. And the interesting thing 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: there is, for the first time on the cheap so 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: they have their cheap phones and their high end pro 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: phones right on the cheaper phones. For the first time, 57 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to take an iPhone with the 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: biggest screen size. So that's gonna do pretty well I 59 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: think in China and in Africa and Europe and some 60 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: of the markets where you're a one device type of 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: consumer where they only have one product to be their computer, 62 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: to be their phone, be their iPad, and whatnot. So 63 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: that's going to probably do really well, and I think 64 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: some investors are excited about that. You might see an 65 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: introduction early next year of their upcoming virtual and augmented 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: reality headset. The Apple Watch is going to get a 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: big update in the fall as well with an Apple 68 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Watch Pro. Okay, we got it. There's still a lot 69 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: of momentum there, Mark, but excellent reporting, Thank you very much. 70 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Mark German, Bloomberg Technology Reporter,