1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Deep in the back of your mind. You've always had 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: the feeling that there's something strange about reality. There is 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: super anno like death, nanopartic mechanicalsia, just punch evolution. On 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: our award winning science podcast Stuff About Your Mind, we 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: examine neurological quandaries, cosmic mysteries, evolutionary marvels, and our trans 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: human future. New episodes come out Tuesdays and Thursdays on iTunes, 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Google Play, Spotify, and anywhere you get your podcast. Welcome 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: to brain Stuff from How Stuff Works. Hey, brain Stuff, 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: it's me Christian Seger. If you're like most people, you 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: think you're very good at some things and are able 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: to admit you're less good at others, you probably think 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: you're superbly talented in one or two areas. Hey, you 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: may be right. You try to be honest with yourself 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: about your strong points and your weak ones, and you 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: likely shake your head in pity at people you see 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: as well stupid. You say things like, why don't they 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: understand that are bad at doing stuff? Well, there is 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: an answer, but you're not gonna like it. And this 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: answer doesn't just apply to people you think of as dumb. 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: It applies to everyone on earth, including you and me. 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: It's not a matter of intelligence, necessarily a difficult thing 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: to measure, but it is related to competence, the ability 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: to do something well. In A psychologist named David Dunning 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: and his grad assistant Justin Krueger tested a group of 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: students in several categories, the ability to think logically, to 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: write chromatically, and to spot funny jokes. They also asked 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: the students to rate their skills in these categories, that is, 28 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: when they notice something weird. The people scoring below average 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: on these tests were just incompetent in these categories. They 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: also didn't know they were incompetent. And here's the kicker. 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: The less competent they were, the more competent they ranked themselves. 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: This is a fun nomenon called illusory superiority. This is 33 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: a cognitive bias wherein people tend to rate their own 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: abilities as above average. Multiple studies have proven this effect 35 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: in everything from firearms to college debates and med students 36 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: opinions of their interviewing skills. It doesn't seem to matter 37 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: what specific skill we're talking about. The less a person 38 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: knows about it, the more likely they are to overestimate 39 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: their knowledge. While Dunning and Krueger popularize this effect in 40 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: modern society, they weren't the first people to notice the 41 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: relationship between confidence, modesty, and skill. Philosophers throughout the ages 42 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: have contemplated this idea, like Bertrand Russell, who famously wrote 43 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: The Trouble with the World is that the stupid are 44 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: cock sure and the intelligent are full of doubt. And 45 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: here's another weird thing. People with actual competency are likely 46 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: to actually underestimate their abilities. Researchers believe this modesty comes 47 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: because competent people are more aware of how much they 48 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: don't actually know, as well as their field in general. 49 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: They also consistently overestimate the performance ability of others. It 50 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: all goes back to one primary thing, meta cognition. Meta 51 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,559 Speaker 1: Cognition is the ability to be aware of and understand 52 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: your own thought process. In other words, the ability to 53 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: think about how you think. People tend to evaluate themselves 54 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: through what Dunning and Krueger called a top down approach. 55 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: Instead of objectively measuring their performance, people start with their 56 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: preconceived notions of their skill and use that belief to 57 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: evaluate their performance. Check out the Brainstuff channel on YouTube 58 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: and for more on this and thousands of other topics, 59 00:03:51,000 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: visit how stuff Works dot com.