WEBVTT - S03 Episode 8: REPEAT INPUT UNTIL END

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<v Speaker 1>The village of Doddalston lies just five miles to the

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<v Speaker 1>southwest of Chester in the northwest of England, surrounded by rich,

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<v Speaker 1>dark soil, fields of green and soft rolling hills. Like

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<v Speaker 1>all of the British Isles, its position has been an

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<v Speaker 1>ever shifting and often disputed thing. Today it sits on

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<v Speaker 1>a border between worlds, one designated England and the other Kymrie.

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<v Speaker 1>Five hundred years ago, these lands were ruled by Tudor

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<v Speaker 1>monarch King Henry the Eighth. It was Henry's fifteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six Act of Union between England and Wales that fixed

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<v Speaker 1>the border as it remains today, placing Doddalston once but

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<v Speaker 1>undoubtedly not for all, on the English side. The Act

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<v Speaker 1>formed one of a number of policies devised by Henry's

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<v Speaker 1>adviser Thomas Cromwell, who sought to remove the influence of

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<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church on the British state. Prior to the Act,

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<v Speaker 1>aristocrats known as lord wardens of the Marches, governed the

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<v Speaker 1>borderlands on behalf of the monarchy. It was their duty

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain the security of the border between nations. The

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<v Speaker 1>word march is derived from the ancient Proto Indo European

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<v Speaker 1>word merek, meaning edge and boundary. With the Act of Union,

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<v Speaker 1>Henry the Eighth had single handedly dissolved the powers of

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<v Speaker 1>the lords. Just under four hundred and fifty years later,

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<v Speaker 1>one resident of Doddleston might have been forgiven for thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that perhaps it wasn't merely geographical boundaries that they had

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<v Speaker 1>been guarding. You're listening to Unexplained and I'm Richard McClane Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>It was late August nineteen eighty four when Ken first

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<v Speaker 1>spotted the strange markings on his kitchen wall, shaped inexplicably

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<v Speaker 1>like small footprints stretching in a diagonal line to the ceiling.

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<v Speaker 1>The discovery had been in keeping with what was proving

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<v Speaker 1>to be an especially peculiar summer. Just the previous month,

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<v Speaker 1>Ken had been woken shortly before eight am, alarmed to

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<v Speaker 1>find his entire house being rocked on its foundations, the

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<v Speaker 1>result of the largest earthquake ever recorded in the United Kingdom,

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<v Speaker 1>with the epicenter located in Clin Peninsula, eighty miles to

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<v Speaker 1>the west, measuring five point four on the Richter scale,

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<v Speaker 1>Its subsequ quent shockwaves were felt as far away as

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<v Speaker 1>Dublin in Ireland. Ken's house known as Meadow Cottage, was

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<v Speaker 1>one of four eighteenth century buildings lined up along Kinnerton

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<v Speaker 1>Road on the edge of Doddalston Village. Ken, an economics

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<v Speaker 1>teacher in his mid twenties, lived at the property with

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<v Speaker 1>his nineteen year old girlfriend, Debby. She too had noticed

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<v Speaker 1>the strange markings on the wall, but since most of

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<v Speaker 1>the ground floor had been undergoing renovations for the best

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<v Speaker 1>part of the summer, the markings were soon forgotten, before

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<v Speaker 1>eventually fading away altogether. It was a few months later,

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<v Speaker 1>with the renovations completed, that Nicola, a friend of Ken's,

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<v Speaker 1>came to stay for a couple of months. One morning,

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<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen, as Ken was preparing breakfast, Nicola drew

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<v Speaker 1>his attention to something she had noticed the day before,

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<v Speaker 1>an odd set of markings that went diagonally across the

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<v Speaker 1>back wall all the way to the ceiling. They looked

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<v Speaker 1>like footprints, she said. Ken brushed his hand over the

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<v Speaker 1>newly plastered and painted wall, finding the markings exactly where

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<v Speaker 1>they had been before. Unnerved by their uncanny resemblance to feet,

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<v Speaker 1>Nichola painted over them the next day. A few days later,

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden cry from Debby had Ken racing into the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen to find a bizarre sight laid out before him

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<v Speaker 1>a pyramid of cans stacked up on the floor, with

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<v Speaker 1>three of the tins placed one on top of the other,

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<v Speaker 1>forming a precarious tower at the top. Ken gave a

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<v Speaker 1>rise smile, suddenly realizing what had been going on. He

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<v Speaker 1>had first suspected the builders playing a trick on them,

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<v Speaker 1>but since they had left some time ago, it must

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<v Speaker 1>have been John or sten It, two friends of his

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<v Speaker 1>who often came to the house to play music in

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<v Speaker 1>the small home studio upstairs. Ken had also given them

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<v Speaker 1>keys to let themselves in if they ever needed to

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<v Speaker 1>use the place when he was at work. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>he reasoned there was no point in confronting them since

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<v Speaker 1>they would never own up to it, But when he

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<v Speaker 1>found another strange construction in the kitchen two days later,

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<v Speaker 1>this time comprising a large bottle of lemonade, kitchen roll,

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<v Speaker 1>and dried cat food, he had had enough. As he expected,

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<v Speaker 1>both denied all knowledge of the bizarre activity, but Ken

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<v Speaker 1>was satisfied he had got the message across. None the less.

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<v Speaker 1>That night, Ken, Debby, and Nick made extra shore to

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<v Speaker 1>check that all the windows and doors were locked before

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<v Speaker 1>they made their way to bed the following morning, they

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<v Speaker 1>found nothing unto wart. A few months later, one evening

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<v Speaker 1>in mid December, Debby and Nikola had just settled down

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the fire in the living room when

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<v Speaker 1>the temperature dropped. Suddenly, a strong gust of wind swept

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<v Speaker 1>through the room, lifting a number of pages from a

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<v Speaker 1>paper that had been left on the floor high into

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<v Speaker 1>the air. Debbi watched with amusement as the log in

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<v Speaker 1>the hearth, having been burning, gently flashed a sudden bright red,

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<v Speaker 1>before returning to a soft orange as the pages fluttered

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<v Speaker 1>down to the floor. As new year approached, Nicola was

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to feel restless and wary of taking up too

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<v Speaker 1>much of Ken and Debby's time, began to look for

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<v Speaker 1>work and somewhere else to live. With plans of becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a performer on the cabaret circuit, she decided to try

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<v Speaker 1>her hand at sketchwriting. Ken, who taught at nearby Howard

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<v Speaker 1>and School, suggested she work on one of the schools

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<v Speaker 1>recently acquired BBC micro computers, and so it was when

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<v Speaker 1>a few days later, Ken booked out the machine and

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<v Speaker 1>brought it back to the house later that day, having

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<v Speaker 1>decided to set it up in the kitchen. Ken and

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<v Speaker 1>Nichola sat down in front of the slick, black and

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<v Speaker 1>beige device with its bulky monitor stacked up behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>After switching it on, the words BBC computer glowed green

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<v Speaker 1>on the screen with a small flashing line beneath. Waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for their instruction, Ken typed in asterisk D, then pressed return,

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<v Speaker 1>followed by asterisk eed w O r D and hit

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<v Speaker 1>return again. Immediately the word processing program ed word opened up.

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<v Speaker 1>Having introduced Nick to the program, Ken left her at

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<v Speaker 1>the computer to get to grips with it. After a

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<v Speaker 1>number of days writing, Nikola joined Ken and Debbie for

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<v Speaker 1>dinner at the home of their friends Sean and Dave Lovell.

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<v Speaker 1>Returning back to the house later that night, Nick made

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<v Speaker 1>her way to bed, while Ken and Debbie headed to

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen to make some tea. Opening the door, it

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<v Speaker 1>was clear by the fuzzy green glow bot lighting the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen table that Nick had forgotten to turn off the computer.

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<v Speaker 1>Curious as to what she had been working on, Ken

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<v Speaker 1>had just pulled up the files when he discovered something unexpected.

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<v Speaker 1>Where all of Nick's files were labeled with single letters,

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<v Speaker 1>there was one file that had not been on the

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<v Speaker 1>disc when he first gave it to her, Labeled with

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<v Speaker 1>three kay, D and N. Ken selected it with the

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<v Speaker 1>mouse and reeled back in surprise. It was two months later,

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<v Speaker 1>in February nineteen eighty five, when Ken approached fifty year

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<v Speaker 1>old Peter Trinder in the school's staff room with a

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<v Speaker 1>peculiar request. A hugely experienced teacher and former Oxford University graduate,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter who had once been Ken's own English teacher, had

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<v Speaker 1>become a good friend since Ken had joined the teaching staff,

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<v Speaker 1>but more importantly, Peter was someone he could trust with

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<v Speaker 1>what he was about to tell him. It had all

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<v Speaker 1>started that Sunday evening in December, as Ken explained, after

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<v Speaker 1>opening the mystery file, he found a message a rest

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<v Speaker 1>to Ken, deb and Nick. True, are the nightmares of

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<v Speaker 1>a person that fears safe? Are the bodies of the

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<v Speaker 1>silent world? Turn pretty flower, turned towards the sun, for

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<v Speaker 1>you shall grow and sow. But the flower reaches too

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<v Speaker 1>high and withers in the burning light. It was a poem, evidently,

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<v Speaker 1>but not one that Ken or anyone else in the

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<v Speaker 1>house had written. Ken explained further that a number of

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<v Speaker 1>strange things had been occurring in the house prior to this,

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<v Speaker 1>and naturally he had assumed it was all part of

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<v Speaker 1>some elaborate joke. That was until he found something else

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks later, another file, this time named Rate.

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<v Speaker 1>He handed Peter a print out of what he'd found.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter stared at it for a moment. Well, it's English,

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<v Speaker 1>but not contemporary, that's for sure. He studied the lines again.

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<v Speaker 1>I hath no want to affray for only sith mine

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<v Speaker 1>half witted antic has ripped a twain mine bound hath

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<v Speaker 1>I been wreathed a knight. It was signed by L. W.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter recognized the text as perhaps sixteenth century, but much

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<v Speaker 1>of the language seemed unfamiliar. Not quite sure what to

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<v Speaker 1>make of it all, he agreed none the less to

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<v Speaker 1>give the text a proper look and promised to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to Ken in due course. A few days later,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter approached him at the staff room, demanding to know,

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<v Speaker 1>in no uncertain terms, if he was being messed around with.

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<v Speaker 1>Convinced by Ken's assurances that he wasn't, and thinking it

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<v Speaker 1>unlikely that Ken had the requisite knowledge to fabricate the

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<v Speaker 1>message himself, Peter Julie explained his findings, having tallied the

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<v Speaker 1>words against the Oxford English Dictionary, many of which he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know himself. He was surprised to find that they

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<v Speaker 1>were all genuine. Whoever had written the message, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>was either a very skilled linguist or was writing from

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time ago. The following week, Ken's solicitor,

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<v Speaker 1>John Cummins, having also learned of the peculiar correspondence, suggested

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<v Speaker 1>that Ken write a reply to try and catch the

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<v Speaker 1>hoax out. The next day, Ken Julie booted up the

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<v Speaker 1>computer and started to type. He began by thanking the

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<v Speaker 1>recipient for the messages before listing a series of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>The second message mentioned a man named Edmund Gray, prompting

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<v Speaker 1>Ken to ask who this was. He asked also if

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<v Speaker 1>the person writing the message was writing from the sixteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>and if so, who the king was at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>The following day, John Cummins received a phone call from Ken.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed they had written back. John listened patiently as Debbie,

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<v Speaker 1>reading from the screen, shouted from the kitchen while Ken

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<v Speaker 1>clarified what she was saying. The writer listed Edmund Gray

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<v Speaker 1>as the brother of John Gray, who they claimed lived

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<v Speaker 1>in nearby Kinnaton Hall. They also claimed to be writing

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<v Speaker 1>not from the sixteen hundreds, but from the year fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, during the reign of King Henry the Eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>who they listed as being six and forty years old.

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<v Speaker 1>As Ken would later tell John and Peter, having ended

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<v Speaker 1>the call with John, he was suddenly perturbed by the

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<v Speaker 1>age given for Henry the Eighth. He knew he had

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<v Speaker 1>been born in fourteen ninety one, meaning whoever had written

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<v Speaker 1>the message had got the age completely wrong. But when

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<v Speaker 1>deb returned to the computer to double check the details,

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<v Speaker 1>the message had vanished. They needn't have worried, however, as

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<v Speaker 1>it would prove to be only the first reply of many.

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<v Speaker 1>A follow up message, received on February the sixteenth, gave

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<v Speaker 1>the writer's name as Lucas. It had been received the

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<v Speaker 1>same day that Ken had returned home from a trip

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<v Speaker 1>to the garage to find three milk cartons on the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen floor, stagged up on top of each other. Subsequent

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<v Speaker 1>messages would reveal the full name to be Lucas Wayneman.

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<v Speaker 1>Each time Ken received a message, he would print it

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<v Speaker 1>out and hand it to his colleague Peter to analyze,

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<v Speaker 1>and each time he came to the same conclusion. Though

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<v Speaker 1>the grammar was a little odd in places, the vocabulary

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<v Speaker 1>was completely authentic for the period. Though Ken and Depp

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<v Speaker 1>had been a little unnerved at the thought of some

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<v Speaker 1>one entering the house while they slept upstairs, the assumption

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<v Speaker 1>that it had been Ken's bandmate John had made it

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat less sinister. What John wasn't, however, was an expert

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<v Speaker 1>in Tudor era English. He looked again at the print

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<v Speaker 1>out of the first message and read the final lines again,

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<v Speaker 1>twas a great crime to have bribed mine house, or,

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<v Speaker 1>as Peter's translation read, it was a great crime to

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<v Speaker 1>have stolen my house. Are you always taking care of

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<v Speaker 1>your family? Do you often take care of others and

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<v Speaker 1>not yourself? Now it's time to take care of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>one point, Ken wrote to the mysterious Lucas asking how

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<v Speaker 1>it was that he was able to send messages on

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<v Speaker 1>a computer if he was writing from the distant past.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken's preferred method was to write his message and leave

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<v Speaker 1>the computer on until he received a reply, usually leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the house in order to prompt a response. That evening,

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<v Speaker 1>having only been gone an hour, he returned to find

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<v Speaker 1>a new file saved onto the disc. I hath seen

0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.520
<v Speaker 1>thee Maketh leams on thy voice and Art sly read

0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the reply. He had been watching them make lights on

0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.280
<v Speaker 1>the box and copied them, explained Peter. The next day,

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<v Speaker 1>things progressed steadily between Lucas, Ken and Debbie as they

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<v Speaker 1>apparently sought more information about each other, until one message

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<v Speaker 1>brought a curious revelation. As Ken explained it to Peter,

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<v Speaker 1>all this time he and Debbie had been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>catch out whoever had been hoaxing them, until it became

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<v Speaker 1>apparent in their exchanges with Lucas that he might in

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<v Speaker 1>fact have been trying to catch them out. Perhaps it

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<v Speaker 1>was they who he thought were not real, said Ken,

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<v Speaker 1>What if to Lucas it was they who were the ghosts.

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<v Speaker 1>A few weeks later, Debby was alone in the house,

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<v Speaker 1>resting on the sofa when she heard a bizare scuffling

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<v Speaker 1>coming from the kitchen. Opening the door, she found a

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<v Speaker 1>wire chair leaning back on a rail at a forty

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<v Speaker 1>five degree angle. After staring for a moment, she moved

0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:44.960
<v Speaker 1>slowly toward it and pulled it down into place, before

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<v Speaker 1>hurrying back to the living room and bolting the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>door shut behind her. After falling asleep again on the sofa,

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<v Speaker 1>Debb plucked up the courage to return to the kitchen

0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:02.760
<v Speaker 1>to make some coffee. Having returned again to the living room,

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<v Speaker 1>she had just sat down on the couch when she

0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:09.280
<v Speaker 1>felt something cold brush against the left side of her face.

0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:14.480
<v Speaker 1>She felt her hand run through her hair, and another

0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.639
<v Speaker 1>grip her on the shoulder. She became aware of a

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<v Speaker 1>figure standing to her left, but when she turned to look,

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<v Speaker 1>there was nothing Leaping from the couch, she ran straight

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<v Speaker 1>into the cold and wet outside, where she remained for

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<v Speaker 1>the next hour until Ken returned home. It was some

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<v Speaker 1>time in the spring of eighty five that Peter, having

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<v Speaker 1>suggested they widened their investigation, wrote to the UK's Society

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<v Speaker 1>of Psychical Research for assistance. It wouldn't be until early May, however,

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<v Speaker 1>that John Bucknell and Dave Welsh of the SPR were

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<v Speaker 1>finally able to meet with them, and much had happened

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<v Speaker 1>Peter had first been in touch. The pair sat in

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<v Speaker 1>Peter's living room listening as he, Debbie, and Ken explained

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<v Speaker 1>the events of the past six months. It appeared that

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<v Speaker 1>after the first flurry of messages, things had started to

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<v Speaker 1>take increasingly strange turns. One incident involved Ken leaving a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of the type of car he owned by the

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<v Speaker 1>computer at the request of Lucas, who wanted to understand

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<v Speaker 1>more about it. The picture had gone missing, only to

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<v Speaker 1>reappear the following day, scorched around all the edges. Additional

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<v Speaker 1>messages had also started appearing around the house, written in

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<v Speaker 1>chalk in long cursive script, the first had said simply

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<v Speaker 1>Lucas As for Lucas himself, Ken explained as he handed

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<v Speaker 1>a folder to John and Dave contain all the messages

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<v Speaker 1>to date. He was no longer corresponding with them. Ken

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<v Speaker 1>paused for a moment, wondering if he should continue. It seemed,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, as John perused the many pages of text,

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<v Speaker 1>that he had been arrested for witchcraft after he was

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<v Speaker 1>apparently discovered trying to communicate with Ken and Debbie. What's more,

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<v Speaker 1>Ken had never told him what year they were living in.

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<v Speaker 1>When he did, Lucas had apparently been confused, believing they

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<v Speaker 1>had been speaking to him from the year twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>o nine. When Ken had asked why, Lucas replied because

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<v Speaker 1>it was the year in which the others lived. Ken

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<v Speaker 1>handed a final message to the spr investigators. It was

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<v Speaker 1>from them, he said, Ken, Peter deb It read, try

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<v Speaker 1>to understand that you three have a purpose that shall,

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<v Speaker 1>in your lifetime change the face of history. We twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one o nine must not affect your thoughts directly, but

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<v Speaker 1>give you some sort of guidance that will allow room

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<v Speaker 1>for your own destiny, John and Dave studied the messages

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<v Speaker 1>carefully and looked to Peter for clarification. He confirmed again

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<v Speaker 1>that the messages in Old English seemed authentic. It was

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<v Speaker 1>clear to Ken, however, from the following questioning, that he,

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<v Speaker 1>deb and Peter were under suspicion of concocting a hoax.

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<v Speaker 1>John and Dave eventually agreed to mount a formal investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>but made it clear their focus was not on the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of contact from a distant past or future, but

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<v Speaker 1>rather on trying to catch out the assus umed hoaxer.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the next few months, with communication now apparently coming

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<v Speaker 1>regularly between Ken and the enigmatic twenty one o nine group,

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<v Speaker 1>John and Dave traveled to Ken's house in Doddleston, rigging

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<v Speaker 1>up a series of traps and microphones throughout the house

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<v Speaker 1>in their efforts to snare the trickster. After the traps

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<v Speaker 1>were set, the group would retire to the local pub

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<v Speaker 1>in the hope of returning to find either a message

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<v Speaker 1>or one of the traps disturbed, but every time they

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<v Speaker 1>found nothing. Next, Dave secretly composed ten as yet unanswered

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>mathematical problems that he reasoned might be simple for someone

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:56.159
<v Speaker 1>in twenty one o nine to answer. Sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen on his own, he typed them out carefully returned

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<v Speaker 1>to sit with the others in the living room. With

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen locked and deb Ken and Peter all gathered together,

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<v Speaker 1>no one had entered the kitchen when Dave returned to

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<v Speaker 1>the computer an hour later. Satisfied that nobody had replied,

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<v Speaker 1>he deleted the questions. When a few days had passed,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave received a phone call from Ken. He had found

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<v Speaker 1>a new file on the disc. Dave was disappointed but

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<v Speaker 1>unsurprised to discover that his questions had not been answered,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet, curiously, whoever had written the message had referred

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<v Speaker 1>directly to a number of the questions, suggesting they had

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<v Speaker 1>at least found some way to read them. Frustrated by

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<v Speaker 1>the insufficient response from Dave's first request, Ken had apparently

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<v Speaker 1>written back demanding they at least answered two questions provide

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<v Speaker 1>them with a prime number bigger than the largest currently known,

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>as well as the solution to the mathematical conundrum known

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 1>as for Mars last theorem. Ken called Dave again later

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<v Speaker 1>that day to explain what he had done, but more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>to let him know that they had replied again, Dave.

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>It read yes, both questions can be answered, one directly,

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<v Speaker 1>the other requires an understanding of a new conversion formula.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we tell you, do you swear to grant

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<v Speaker 1>us our wish. After a moment of silence, Dave instructed

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<v Speaker 1>Ken what to write next if it be in our

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<v Speaker 1>power to do so, and that we do not lose

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<v Speaker 1>our minds or souls or bodies to do so. Ken

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<v Speaker 1>put down the phone and dutifully typed out the words

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<v Speaker 1>before heading out for a walk in the hope that

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<v Speaker 1>a reply would be waiting for him. On his return

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<v Speaker 1>back in Dave's home. An hour later, the phone rang.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Ken. They had replied again. Then let the

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<v Speaker 1>man who was willing to lose those step forward. They said.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they just want you to answer yes or no,

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>explained Ken. Dave hesitated for a moment before deciding to

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<v Speaker 1>decline their offer. It was now becoming clear that any

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 1>effort to uncover the truth was merely an exercise in futility.

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Aside from keeping the computer under twenty four hours surveillance

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:50.679
<v Speaker 1>or being present for when the apparent messages appeared on

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 1>the screen, there was little to no way that anybody

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>could evervalidate the authenticity of the communications, and what good

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>asking questions to the people supposedly communicating with them when

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>there was no imperative for them to answer it proved nothing.

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 1>The SPR at least would eventually conclude they had reached

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a dead end. According to Ken, John Bucknell left the

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Society soon after, and neither he nor Dave Welsh ever

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>filed a report on the case. Having lost the interest

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:41.679
<v Speaker 1>of the SPR, Peter advised Ken to go public with

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>his story. After gaining the attention of the local paper,

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>The Chester Observer, Ken met with reporter Neil Bartlam at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of December nineteen eighty five. The subsequent article,

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<v Speaker 1>published on Sunday twenty second of December, detailed most of

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<v Speaker 1>what had happened to day, including one incredible piece of information.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometime after the SPR ended their investigation, Lucas had apparently

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<v Speaker 1>got back in touch with Ken, only to reveal that

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<v Speaker 1>his name wasn't Lucas at all, but was in fact

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Thomas Howarden. Some months before, Lucas had claimed to have

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<v Speaker 1>once been a fellow at Brasenose College of Oxford University,

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<v Speaker 1>taking it on himself to see if there was any

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>record of a Lucas attending the college in the early

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>sixteenth century. Peter contacted Robin Pendle, an acquaintance at Brasenose,

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<v Speaker 1>to see if he might do some digging for him.

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<v Speaker 1>As it turned out, there was no record of a

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Lucas Wayneman, but Robin did find something interesting. Thomas Hawarden

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<v Speaker 1>or Harden, who hailed from an area close to present

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>day Doddleston, had been a tutor at the college in

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen thirty. The man had apparently been fired after expunging

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the name of the Pope on official documents. Later, after

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Lucas had allegedly revealed his name to in fact have

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<v Speaker 1>been Thomas Howarden and later Thomas Harden. Ken had in

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<v Speaker 1>turn informed him that they had been told of his

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>name before and asked if it was true that he

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>had been fired from the college. Ken maintained. He then

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<v Speaker 1>received a reply from Thomas confirming he had indeed been

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>released by the college. It wasn't for expunging the Pope's name, however,

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<v Speaker 1>but rather for failing to do so. A few weeks later,

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<v Speaker 1>Robin Pendle, while searching the archives again at Brasenose, came

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<v Speaker 1>across another document pertaining to Thomas her Warden. It appeared

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that his initial assessment had been wrong after all, with

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the newly discovered document revealing just as Tom had apparently said,

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>he was punished for not removing the Pope's name. Ken

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<v Speaker 1>would eventually go on to publish a book titled The

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Vertical Plane, outlining the extraordinary set of events that apparently

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<v Speaker 1>plagued him and his girlfriend Debbie in that quiet, sleepy

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>village of Doddleston. The final communication was said by Ken

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to have been received on March twenty first, nineteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 1>It was written by the Enigmatic twenty one O nine

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<v Speaker 1>group and contained one final tantalizing piece of information. At

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<v Speaker 1>one point during all the correspondence with the man said

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>to be named Lucas Wayneman, later revealed as Thomas Harden,

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>he said that he had been writing a book documenting

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<v Speaker 1>the bazaar events in the hope that someone in the

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>future would discover it. As the final message detailed, Thomas

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>did eventually write his book, but died shortly after. He

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>placed it in a secure place. But it shouldn't take

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>too many years to find it, the inscription reads, me

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>writes this in the hope that mine fellows will one

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