1 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: The village of Doddalston lies just five miles to the 2 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: southwest of Chester in the northwest of England, surrounded by rich, 3 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: dark soil, fields of green and soft rolling hills. Like 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: all of the British Isles, its position has been an 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: ever shifting and often disputed thing. Today it sits on 6 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: a border between worlds, one designated England and the other Kymrie. 7 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Five hundred years ago, these lands were ruled by Tudor 8 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: monarch King Henry the Eighth. It was Henry's fifteen thirty 9 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: six Act of Union between England and Wales that fixed 10 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: the border as it remains today, placing Doddalston once but 11 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: undoubtedly not for all, on the English side. The Act 12 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: formed one of a number of policies devised by Henry's 13 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: adviser Thomas Cromwell, who sought to remove the influence of 14 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: the Catholic Church on the British state. Prior to the Act, 15 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: aristocrats known as lord wardens of the Marches, governed the 16 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: borderlands on behalf of the monarchy. It was their duty 17 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: to maintain the security of the border between nations. The 18 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: word march is derived from the ancient Proto Indo European 19 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: word merek, meaning edge and boundary. With the Act of Union, 20 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: Henry the Eighth had single handedly dissolved the powers of 21 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: the lords. Just under four hundred and fifty years later, 22 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: one resident of Doddleston might have been forgiven for thinking 23 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: that perhaps it wasn't merely geographical boundaries that they had 24 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: been guarding. You're listening to Unexplained and I'm Richard McClane Smith. 25 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: It was late August nineteen eighty four when Ken first 26 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: spotted the strange markings on his kitchen wall, shaped inexplicably 27 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: like small footprints stretching in a diagonal line to the ceiling. 28 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: The discovery had been in keeping with what was proving 29 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: to be an especially peculiar summer. Just the previous month, 30 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Ken had been woken shortly before eight am, alarmed to 31 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: find his entire house being rocked on its foundations, the 32 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: result of the largest earthquake ever recorded in the United Kingdom, 33 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: with the epicenter located in Clin Peninsula, eighty miles to 34 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: the west, measuring five point four on the Richter scale, 35 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Its subsequ quent shockwaves were felt as far away as 36 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Dublin in Ireland. Ken's house known as Meadow Cottage, was 37 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: one of four eighteenth century buildings lined up along Kinnerton 38 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: Road on the edge of Doddalston Village. Ken, an economics 39 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: teacher in his mid twenties, lived at the property with 40 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: his nineteen year old girlfriend, Debby. She too had noticed 41 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: the strange markings on the wall, but since most of 42 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: the ground floor had been undergoing renovations for the best 43 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: part of the summer, the markings were soon forgotten, before 44 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: eventually fading away altogether. It was a few months later, 45 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: with the renovations completed, that Nicola, a friend of Ken's, 46 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: came to stay for a couple of months. One morning, 47 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: in the kitchen, as Ken was preparing breakfast, Nicola drew 48 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: his attention to something she had noticed the day before, 49 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: an odd set of markings that went diagonally across the 50 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: back wall all the way to the ceiling. They looked 51 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: like footprints, she said. Ken brushed his hand over the 52 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: newly plastered and painted wall, finding the markings exactly where 53 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: they had been before. Unnerved by their uncanny resemblance to feet, 54 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: Nichola painted over them the next day. A few days later, 55 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: a sudden cry from Debby had Ken racing into the 56 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: kitchen to find a bizarre sight laid out before him 57 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: a pyramid of cans stacked up on the floor, with 58 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: three of the tins placed one on top of the other, 59 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: forming a precarious tower at the top. Ken gave a 60 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: rise smile, suddenly realizing what had been going on. He 61 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: had first suspected the builders playing a trick on them, 62 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: but since they had left some time ago, it must 63 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: have been John or sten It, two friends of his 64 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: who often came to the house to play music in 65 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: the small home studio upstairs. Ken had also given them 66 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: keys to let themselves in if they ever needed to 67 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: use the place when he was at work. At first, 68 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: he reasoned there was no point in confronting them since 69 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: they would never own up to it, But when he 70 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: found another strange construction in the kitchen two days later, 71 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: this time comprising a large bottle of lemonade, kitchen roll, 72 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: and dried cat food, he had had enough. As he expected, 73 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: both denied all knowledge of the bizarre activity, but Ken 74 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 1: was satisfied he had got the message across. None the less. 75 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: That night, Ken, Debby, and Nick made extra shore to 76 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: check that all the windows and doors were locked before 77 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: they made their way to bed the following morning, they 78 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: found nothing unto wart. A few months later, one evening 79 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: in mid December, Debby and Nikola had just settled down 80 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: in front of the fire in the living room when 81 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: the temperature dropped. Suddenly, a strong gust of wind swept 82 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: through the room, lifting a number of pages from a 83 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: paper that had been left on the floor high into 84 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: the air. Debbi watched with amusement as the log in 85 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 1: the hearth, having been burning, gently flashed a sudden bright red, 86 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: before returning to a soft orange as the pages fluttered 87 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: down to the floor. As new year approached, Nicola was 88 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: beginning to feel restless and wary of taking up too 89 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: much of Ken and Debby's time, began to look for 90 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: work and somewhere else to live. With plans of becoming 91 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: a performer on the cabaret circuit, she decided to try 92 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: her hand at sketchwriting. Ken, who taught at nearby Howard 93 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: and School, suggested she work on one of the schools 94 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: recently acquired BBC micro computers, and so it was when 95 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: a few days later, Ken booked out the machine and 96 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: brought it back to the house later that day, having 97 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: decided to set it up in the kitchen. Ken and 98 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: Nichola sat down in front of the slick, black and 99 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: beige device with its bulky monitor stacked up behind it. 100 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: After switching it on, the words BBC computer glowed green 101 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: on the screen with a small flashing line beneath. Waiting 102 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: for their instruction, Ken typed in asterisk D, then pressed return, 103 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: followed by asterisk eed w O r D and hit 104 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: return again. Immediately the word processing program ed word opened up. 105 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: Having introduced Nick to the program, Ken left her at 106 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: the computer to get to grips with it. After a 107 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: number of days writing, Nikola joined Ken and Debbie for 108 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: dinner at the home of their friends Sean and Dave Lovell. 109 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: Returning back to the house later that night, Nick made 110 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: her way to bed, while Ken and Debbie headed to 111 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: the kitchen to make some tea. Opening the door, it 112 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: was clear by the fuzzy green glow bot lighting the 113 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: kitchen table that Nick had forgotten to turn off the computer. 114 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: Curious as to what she had been working on, Ken 115 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: had just pulled up the files when he discovered something unexpected. 116 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: Where all of Nick's files were labeled with single letters, 117 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: there was one file that had not been on the 118 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: disc when he first gave it to her, Labeled with 119 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: three kay, D and N. Ken selected it with the 120 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: mouse and reeled back in surprise. It was two months later, 121 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: in February nineteen eighty five, when Ken approached fifty year 122 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: old Peter Trinder in the school's staff room with a 123 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: peculiar request. A hugely experienced teacher and former Oxford University graduate, 124 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: Peter who had once been Ken's own English teacher, had 125 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: become a good friend since Ken had joined the teaching staff, 126 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: but more importantly, Peter was someone he could trust with 127 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: what he was about to tell him. It had all 128 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: started that Sunday evening in December, as Ken explained, after 129 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: opening the mystery file, he found a message a rest 130 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: to Ken, deb and Nick. True, are the nightmares of 131 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: a person that fears safe? Are the bodies of the 132 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: silent world? Turn pretty flower, turned towards the sun, for 133 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: you shall grow and sow. But the flower reaches too 134 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: high and withers in the burning light. It was a poem, evidently, 135 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: but not one that Ken or anyone else in the 136 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: house had written. Ken explained further that a number of 137 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: strange things had been occurring in the house prior to this, 138 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: and naturally he had assumed it was all part of 139 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: some elaborate joke. That was until he found something else 140 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: a few weeks later, another file, this time named Rate. 141 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: He handed Peter a print out of what he'd found. 142 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: Peter stared at it for a moment. Well, it's English, 143 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: but not contemporary, that's for sure. He studied the lines again. 144 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: I hath no want to affray for only sith mine 145 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: half witted antic has ripped a twain mine bound hath 146 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: I been wreathed a knight. It was signed by L. W. 147 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: Peter recognized the text as perhaps sixteenth century, but much 148 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: of the language seemed unfamiliar. Not quite sure what to 149 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: make of it all, he agreed none the less to 150 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: give the text a proper look and promised to get 151 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: back to Ken in due course. A few days later, 152 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: Peter approached him at the staff room, demanding to know, 153 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: in no uncertain terms, if he was being messed around with. 154 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: Convinced by Ken's assurances that he wasn't, and thinking it 155 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: unlikely that Ken had the requisite knowledge to fabricate the 156 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: message himself, Peter Julie explained his findings, having tallied the 157 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: words against the Oxford English Dictionary, many of which he 158 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: didn't know himself. He was surprised to find that they 159 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: were all genuine. Whoever had written the message, he said, 160 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: was either a very skilled linguist or was writing from 161 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: a very long time ago. The following week, Ken's solicitor, 162 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: John Cummins, having also learned of the peculiar correspondence, suggested 163 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: that Ken write a reply to try and catch the 164 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: hoax out. The next day, Ken Julie booted up the 165 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: computer and started to type. He began by thanking the 166 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: recipient for the messages before listing a series of questions. 167 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: The second message mentioned a man named Edmund Gray, prompting 168 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: Ken to ask who this was. He asked also if 169 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: the person writing the message was writing from the sixteen hundreds, 170 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: and if so, who the king was at the time. 171 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: The following day, John Cummins received a phone call from Ken. 172 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: It seemed they had written back. John listened patiently as Debbie, 173 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: reading from the screen, shouted from the kitchen while Ken 174 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: clarified what she was saying. The writer listed Edmund Gray 175 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: as the brother of John Gray, who they claimed lived 176 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: in nearby Kinnaton Hall. They also claimed to be writing 177 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: not from the sixteen hundreds, but from the year fifteen 178 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: twenty one, during the reign of King Henry the Eighth, 179 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: who they listed as being six and forty years old. 180 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: As Ken would later tell John and Peter, having ended 181 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: the call with John, he was suddenly perturbed by the 182 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: age given for Henry the Eighth. He knew he had 183 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: been born in fourteen ninety one, meaning whoever had written 184 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: the message had got the age completely wrong. But when 185 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: deb returned to the computer to double check the details, 186 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: the message had vanished. They needn't have worried, however, as 187 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: it would prove to be only the first reply of many. 188 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: A follow up message, received on February the sixteenth, gave 189 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: the writer's name as Lucas. It had been received the 190 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: same day that Ken had returned home from a trip 191 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: to the garage to find three milk cartons on the 192 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: kitchen floor, stagged up on top of each other. Subsequent 193 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: messages would reveal the full name to be Lucas Wayneman. 194 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: Each time Ken received a message, he would print it 195 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: out and hand it to his colleague Peter to analyze, 196 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: and each time he came to the same conclusion. Though 197 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: the grammar was a little odd in places, the vocabulary 198 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: was completely authentic for the period. Though Ken and Depp 199 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: had been a little unnerved at the thought of some 200 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: one entering the house while they slept upstairs, the assumption 201 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: that it had been Ken's bandmate John had made it 202 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: somewhat less sinister. What John wasn't, however, was an expert 203 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: in Tudor era English. He looked again at the print 204 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: out of the first message and read the final lines again, 205 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: twas a great crime to have bribed mine house, or, 206 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: as Peter's translation read, it was a great crime to 207 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: have stolen my house. Are you always taking care of 208 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: your family? Do you often take care of others and 209 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: not yourself? Now it's time to take care of yourself. 210 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: To make time for you you deserve it. 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At 224 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: one point, Ken wrote to the mysterious Lucas asking how 225 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: it was that he was able to send messages on 226 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: a computer if he was writing from the distant past. 227 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: Ken's preferred method was to write his message and leave 228 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: the computer on until he received a reply, usually leaving 229 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: the house in order to prompt a response. That evening, 230 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: having only been gone an hour, he returned to find 231 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: a new file saved onto the disc. I hath seen 232 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: thee Maketh leams on thy voice and Art sly read 233 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: the reply. He had been watching them make lights on 234 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: the box and copied them, explained Peter. The next day, 235 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: things progressed steadily between Lucas, Ken and Debbie as they 236 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: apparently sought more information about each other, until one message 237 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: brought a curious revelation. As Ken explained it to Peter, 238 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: all this time he and Debbie had been trying to 239 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: catch out whoever had been hoaxing them, until it became 240 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: apparent in their exchanges with Lucas that he might in 241 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: fact have been trying to catch them out. Perhaps it 242 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: was they who he thought were not real, said Ken, 243 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: What if to Lucas it was they who were the ghosts. 244 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: A few weeks later, Debby was alone in the house, 245 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: resting on the sofa when she heard a bizare scuffling 246 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: coming from the kitchen. Opening the door, she found a 247 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: wire chair leaning back on a rail at a forty 248 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: five degree angle. After staring for a moment, she moved 249 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: slowly toward it and pulled it down into place, before 250 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: hurrying back to the living room and bolting the kitchen 251 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 1: door shut behind her. After falling asleep again on the sofa, 252 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: Debb plucked up the courage to return to the kitchen 253 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: to make some coffee. Having returned again to the living room, 254 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: she had just sat down on the couch when she 255 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: felt something cold brush against the left side of her face. 256 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: She felt her hand run through her hair, and another 257 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: grip her on the shoulder. She became aware of a 258 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: figure standing to her left, but when she turned to look, 259 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: there was nothing Leaping from the couch, she ran straight 260 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: into the cold and wet outside, where she remained for 261 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: the next hour until Ken returned home. It was some 262 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: time in the spring of eighty five that Peter, having 263 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: suggested they widened their investigation, wrote to the UK's Society 264 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: of Psychical Research for assistance. It wouldn't be until early May, however, 265 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: that John Bucknell and Dave Welsh of the SPR were 266 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: finally able to meet with them, and much had happened 267 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: Peter had first been in touch. The pair sat in 268 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: Peter's living room listening as he, Debbie, and Ken explained 269 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: the events of the past six months. It appeared that 270 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: after the first flurry of messages, things had started to 271 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: take increasingly strange turns. One incident involved Ken leaving a 272 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: picture of the type of car he owned by the 273 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: computer at the request of Lucas, who wanted to understand 274 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: more about it. The picture had gone missing, only to 275 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: reappear the following day, scorched around all the edges. Additional 276 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: messages had also started appearing around the house, written in 277 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: chalk in long cursive script, the first had said simply 278 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: Lucas As for Lucas himself, Ken explained as he handed 279 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: a folder to John and Dave contain all the messages 280 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: to date. He was no longer corresponding with them. Ken 281 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: paused for a moment, wondering if he should continue. It seemed, 282 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: he said, as John perused the many pages of text, 283 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: that he had been arrested for witchcraft after he was 284 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: apparently discovered trying to communicate with Ken and Debbie. What's more, 285 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: Ken had never told him what year they were living in. 286 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: When he did, Lucas had apparently been confused, believing they 287 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: had been speaking to him from the year twenty one 288 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: o nine. When Ken had asked why, Lucas replied because 289 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: it was the year in which the others lived. Ken 290 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: handed a final message to the spr investigators. It was 291 00:21:53,400 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: from them, he said, Ken, Peter deb It read, try 292 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: to understand that you three have a purpose that shall, 293 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: in your lifetime change the face of history. We twenty 294 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: one o nine must not affect your thoughts directly, but 295 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: give you some sort of guidance that will allow room 296 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: for your own destiny, John and Dave studied the messages 297 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: carefully and looked to Peter for clarification. He confirmed again 298 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: that the messages in Old English seemed authentic. It was 299 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: clear to Ken, however, from the following questioning, that he, 300 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: deb and Peter were under suspicion of concocting a hoax. 301 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: John and Dave eventually agreed to mount a formal investigation, 302 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: but made it clear their focus was not on the 303 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: possibility of contact from a distant past or future, but 304 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: rather on trying to catch out the assus umed hoaxer. 305 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: Over the next few months, with communication now apparently coming 306 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: regularly between Ken and the enigmatic twenty one o nine group, 307 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: John and Dave traveled to Ken's house in Doddleston, rigging 308 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: up a series of traps and microphones throughout the house 309 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: in their efforts to snare the trickster. After the traps 310 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: were set, the group would retire to the local pub 311 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: in the hope of returning to find either a message 312 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: or one of the traps disturbed, but every time they 313 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: found nothing. Next, Dave secretly composed ten as yet unanswered 314 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: mathematical problems that he reasoned might be simple for someone 315 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: in twenty one o nine to answer. Sitting in the 316 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: kitchen on his own, he typed them out carefully returned 317 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: to sit with the others in the living room. With 318 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: the kitchen locked and deb Ken and Peter all gathered together, 319 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: no one had entered the kitchen when Dave returned to 320 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: the computer an hour later. Satisfied that nobody had replied, 321 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: he deleted the questions. When a few days had passed, 322 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: Dave received a phone call from Ken. He had found 323 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: a new file on the disc. Dave was disappointed but 324 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: unsurprised to discover that his questions had not been answered, 325 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: and yet, curiously, whoever had written the message had referred 326 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: directly to a number of the questions, suggesting they had 327 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: at least found some way to read them. Frustrated by 328 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: the insufficient response from Dave's first request, Ken had apparently 329 00:24:55,040 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: written back demanding they at least answered two questions provide 330 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: them with a prime number bigger than the largest currently known, 331 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: as well as the solution to the mathematical conundrum known 332 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: as for Mars last theorem. Ken called Dave again later 333 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: that day to explain what he had done, but more importantly, 334 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: to let him know that they had replied again, Dave. 335 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: It read yes, both questions can be answered, one directly, 336 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: the other requires an understanding of a new conversion formula. 337 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: But if we tell you, do you swear to grant 338 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: us our wish. After a moment of silence, Dave instructed 339 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: Ken what to write next if it be in our 340 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: power to do so, and that we do not lose 341 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: our minds or souls or bodies to do so. Ken 342 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: put down the phone and dutifully typed out the words 343 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: before heading out for a walk in the hope that 344 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: a reply would be waiting for him. On his return 345 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: back in Dave's home. An hour later, the phone rang. 346 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: It was Ken. They had replied again. Then let the 347 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: man who was willing to lose those step forward. They said. 348 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: Now they just want you to answer yes or no, 349 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: explained Ken. Dave hesitated for a moment before deciding to 350 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: decline their offer. It was now becoming clear that any 351 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: effort to uncover the truth was merely an exercise in futility. 352 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: Aside from keeping the computer under twenty four hours surveillance 353 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: or being present for when the apparent messages appeared on 354 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: the screen, there was little to no way that anybody 355 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: could evervalidate the authenticity of the communications, and what good 356 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: asking questions to the people supposedly communicating with them when 357 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: there was no imperative for them to answer it proved nothing. 358 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: The SPR at least would eventually conclude they had reached 359 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: a dead end. According to Ken, John Bucknell left the 360 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: Society soon after, and neither he nor Dave Welsh ever 361 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: filed a report on the case. Having lost the interest 362 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: of the SPR, Peter advised Ken to go public with 363 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: his story. After gaining the attention of the local paper, 364 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: The Chester Observer, Ken met with reporter Neil Bartlam at 365 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: the beginning of December nineteen eighty five. The subsequent article, 366 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: published on Sunday twenty second of December, detailed most of 367 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: what had happened to day, including one incredible piece of information. 368 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: Sometime after the SPR ended their investigation, Lucas had apparently 369 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: got back in touch with Ken, only to reveal that 370 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: his name wasn't Lucas at all, but was in fact 371 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: Thomas Howarden. Some months before, Lucas had claimed to have 372 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: once been a fellow at Brasenose College of Oxford University, 373 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: taking it on himself to see if there was any 374 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: record of a Lucas attending the college in the early 375 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: sixteenth century. Peter contacted Robin Pendle, an acquaintance at Brasenose, 376 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: to see if he might do some digging for him. 377 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: As it turned out, there was no record of a 378 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: Lucas Wayneman, but Robin did find something interesting. Thomas Hawarden 379 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: or Harden, who hailed from an area close to present 380 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: day Doddleston, had been a tutor at the college in 381 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. The man had apparently been fired after expunging 382 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: the name of the Pope on official documents. Later, after 383 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: Lucas had allegedly revealed his name to in fact have 384 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: been Thomas Howarden and later Thomas Harden. Ken had in 385 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: turn informed him that they had been told of his 386 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: name before and asked if it was true that he 387 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: had been fired from the college. Ken maintained. He then 388 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: received a reply from Thomas confirming he had indeed been 389 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: released by the college. It wasn't for expunging the Pope's name, however, 390 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: but rather for failing to do so. A few weeks later, 391 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: Robin Pendle, while searching the archives again at Brasenose, came 392 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: across another document pertaining to Thomas her Warden. It appeared 393 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: that his initial assessment had been wrong after all, with 394 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: the newly discovered document revealing just as Tom had apparently said, 395 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: he was punished for not removing the Pope's name. Ken 396 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: would eventually go on to publish a book titled The 397 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: Vertical Plane, outlining the extraordinary set of events that apparently 398 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: plagued him and his girlfriend Debbie in that quiet, sleepy 399 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: village of Doddleston. The final communication was said by Ken 400 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: to have been received on March twenty first, nineteen eighty six. 401 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: It was written by the Enigmatic twenty one O nine 402 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: group and contained one final tantalizing piece of information. At 403 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: one point during all the correspondence with the man said 404 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: to be named Lucas Wayneman, later revealed as Thomas Harden, 405 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: he said that he had been writing a book documenting 406 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: the bazaar events in the hope that someone in the 407 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: future would discover it. As the final message detailed, Thomas 408 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: did eventually write his book, but died shortly after. He 409 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: placed it in a secure place. 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