1 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and He. 4 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty not live from studio c Armstrong and Getty. 5 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: We're off for taking a break. 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 4: And as long as we're off, perhaps you'd like to 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 4: catch up on podcasts, subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 4: demand or one more thing we think you'll enjoy it. 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 5: Sir, the choices we got in lay, those were your choices. Shadow, 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 5: somebody got shot? 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: Oh how good? Hold on the dirty dead? What do 12 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: I want with my. 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 5: Da do shaty? 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: What the hell is this? 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 5: Everybody that is? 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 4: That is rapper too low? Who is a pairing as 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 4: a kiss? A guest on a podcast? Who the gun 18 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 4: went off in his pocket? Apparently somehow? 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: Okay? First of all, guests on a podcast. To have 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: a podcast, all you need to do is own a 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: phone or a computer. So is this a podcast with 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: any I mean anyway? So he's sitting around talking to 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: a guy and his gun goes off. What's the most 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 3: interesting to me is these people live such a lifestyle. 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: The reaction is, Hey, whose gun went off? Somebody's gone went? 26 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 3: Who shots? 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: Ibody? 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: Who? 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: Somebody's gun went off? 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: Whereas most of the company I keep, if there were 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: a gun shot in the room, we would all be 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: quite flabbergasted. 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Who shot? Who? 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, is that a gun in your pocket? 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 4: Or you're just happy to be on my podcast. Hello, 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: slay that again, Michael. 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: Just the beginning of it. 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 5: And choices we got in life. Those were your choices. 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: All right. 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: Getting back to our topic, motivating ourselves for the new year, 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 4: rapper too low If you need to stick to your 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: diet through January. 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful. 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: So there are a couple of things I wanted to 45 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 4: do yesterday as kind of a kicking off the ear thing. 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: But we have so much. Let's to get to it. 47 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: We can't get to all of it. But I love this. 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna hit you with part of it and then 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: we'll move on. We got a bunch of stuff. But 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: this is written by a guy named Jeff Goldstein, who 51 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 4: is a writer I really like, and he has this 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: redeclaration of independence and you'll know what he's driving at immediately. 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 4: Be it so understood. This is my vow for the 54 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: new year, too. I refuse to unpack white violence. I 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 4: reject the idea that my existence perpetuates white power structures. 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 4: I will not, and in fact, cannot, examine my ipplicit 57 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 4: biases an individual. I refuse to grant determined interpretive communities 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: authority over my being. My meaning is mine is what 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 4: makes me me. I'm not taking any journey to discover 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: the impact of my privilege on black and brown people's 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: I will not become anti racist or anti fascist to 62 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 4: satisfy your demands. I reject cultural Marxism. I am an individual. 63 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 4: I'm not defined by my color, my lrige, and my sex. 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: I'm jeff good to meet you. I will not respect 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: your pronouns or celebrate your queerness. I am hostile to 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: your sexualization of children. I reject your triggers and your 67 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: desire to control my speech. I know who and what 68 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: you are. You are my presumptive master, or else the 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 4: useful idiot who empowers him. But I will grant you 70 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: and your ideology no power over me. There's more you 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: want to hear a little more sure. I reject equity 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: because it is collectivism disguised as virtue. I reject inclusivity 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: because it is inorganic superficial and contrived. I reject mandated diversity. 74 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: I will not surrender to the crayon box mafia, nor 75 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: do the gender changelings who pretend I am construct answerable 76 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: to their whims. 77 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: Cultural appropriation is merely culture. 78 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: It expands to include, and it makes up the very 79 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: fabric of a pluralistic society. There's no such thing as 80 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: digital blackface. My whiteness is not violent, my sex is 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: not oppressive. My religion doesn't concern you, and my children 82 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: are not yours. STA mold, Your beliefs will not be 83 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: imposed on me. The state will not parent my sons. 84 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: Theory. Yes, digital blackface, I'd forgotten that term. Oh yeah, and. 85 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 4: Again if you've lost a thread, this is a red 86 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 4: declaration of independence. 87 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: Queer theory is critical. Race theory is critical. 88 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: Consciousness is the Marxist rejection of the individual as individual. 89 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: I have some stats on how many states queer theory 90 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 4: is being taught in schools to little children as truth 91 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: and is as shocking. Well, one more time. Queer theory 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 4: is critical. Race theory is critical. Consciousness is the Marxist 93 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 4: rejection of the individual as individual. Cultural Marxism is determined 94 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 4: to raise norms so chaos tear families asunder and reduce 95 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: being to collective conformity. I reject its premises as fully 96 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 4: as I reject its adherents. I will not comply. I 97 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: will not mouth your slogans. I will not denounce on command. 98 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 4: I am not your tool, and you are not my minder. 99 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: And he has a little more about my speech is 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: my own. I reject each of your excuses to silence me. 101 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 4: I don't ask for your protections. I can filter information 102 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 4: without your interference, Mark Zuckerberg, and I despise your presumption 103 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 4: to protect me from myself. I am your sworn enemy, 104 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: and you are mine. I will not perform for you. 105 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: I will not read from your script or dance in 106 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: your follies. Oh my brother, we will post this at 107 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 4: armstrong egedi dot com. 108 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: It is brilliant, and he goes on. But that's the main. 109 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: Party, and it fits in with that Wall Street Journal 110 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: article I was reading from last hour, The progressive moment 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: in global politics is over. That moment existed mostly online 112 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: and with the you know, high level university set. It 113 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 3: was a much smaller group than we all thought or feared, 114 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: thank god, but it was it was misleading because it 115 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: was so prevalent in you know, TV, newspapers and Twitter 116 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: in places like that, but it was not near as 117 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: big as we all thought. And the best thing that 118 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: could happen to people that are on the right side 119 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: of that, and you could be a lifelong Democrat and 120 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: be to the right of all that stuff by a 121 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 3: law shirt like Bill Mahr and lots of people. The 122 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: best thing that could happen for us is if they 123 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 3: continue to believe that they have the numbers they think 124 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: they have as opposed to the tiny fraction that actually 125 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: agrees with them. 126 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 4: Right, I'm reminded of something great you've brought to us. 127 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 4: I think it was last year about how it only 128 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: takes fifteen percent of a population that's dedicated to a 129 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 4: revolution to make it successful. Because you want to give 130 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: us the nickel version of that. 131 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to have the fifteen percent really really 132 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: active group that wants to overthrow the current regime. But 133 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: you get a big enough chunk of people who mostly 134 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: agree with you. They're not going to really do much, 135 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: but they're not going to get in the way, and 136 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: then you have the crowd that's scared of you, and 137 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: you can easily get over fifty percent. 138 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: Right right, and that's how you win. 139 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: And imagine if you were in that hardcore fifteen percent 140 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: that wanted to, I don't know, for the sake of 141 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: the argument overthrow Western society in the name of neo Marxism. 142 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: Imagine if your first step was to capture media and education. 143 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: I mean, that would be an enormous coupe because you could, 144 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: and I'm stating the obvious here, you could project the 145 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: idea that you have way way more mass than you 146 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: do for your radical ideas, like radical gender theory, which 147 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: I will give you a clue. It's like over a 148 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: third of American states are teaching radical theory. There's no 149 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: such thing as a man or a woman. You get 150 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: to choose to little kids in schools. So man, these 151 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: these scumbags, And I'm sorry for the for the you know, 152 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: I'm a wardsmith. I can do better than that. I 153 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 4: apologize these monsters. At least it's more adult. The fact 154 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: that these monsters have gotten as far as they have 155 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: is really really troubling. But you know, on we go 156 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: with the fight. 157 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: Trudeau resigning in Canada is a lot of what sparked. 158 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: For instance, the Ullstreet Journal article one on the list 159 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: of Western leaders or parties that have really suffered defeats 160 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: trying to ride the whole pronouns latinex you should be 161 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: ashamed of yourself for being a white male thang. 162 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, he was huge into that. 163 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 4: And the what's really troubling about this, and we've had 164 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: a bunch of conversations, is you got to your well, 165 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: just you keep calling it fifteen percent for the sake 166 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: of the argument. 167 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: You get your hardcore fifteen percent their activists. 168 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 4: Well, the genius of Neo Marxism developed in the intellectual 169 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 4: salons of Europe in the forties and fifties, nineteen forties 170 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: and nineteen fifties. They wrote books, they signed their name, 171 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: they told us precisely what they wanted to do. The 172 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: genius of it is they have crafted, and it's an 173 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: evil genius, these moral sounding arguments that convince a certain 174 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 4: sort of person that they are doing the right thing 175 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 4: morally by becoming an adherent to Neo Marxism. And it's 176 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: particularly effective among women who want to seek agreement and 177 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: groups and acceptments of that sort of thing. And it's 178 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: particularly successful among your university crowd who want to be 179 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 4: on the cutting edge of thought. That's how they gratify 180 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: their egos by being the innovator, the new person, the revolutionary. 181 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: It's incredibly I mean, they take practically sexual glee for 182 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 4: being innovators in the universities, because how are you going 183 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 4: to justify your big sal Gary if you in any 184 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: level of education, say you know that stuff we've been doing, 185 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: it's perfect. I wouldn't change it at all. True, you've 186 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: wasted your PhD. So anyway, man, you have heard a 187 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: lot of gun shots. If your reaction to a gunshot 188 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: in a room is this. 189 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,239 Speaker 5: And choices we got in lay? Those were your choices? 190 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: Been calmer than shot? Who did somebody get shot? 191 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 6: Huh? 192 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 4: What? 193 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: It's good. 194 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: It would be the most amazing thing that ever happened 195 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: in my life. If a gun went off in a room. 196 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: We're sitting there interviewing I don't know, Rich Lowry from 197 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: the National Review, and. 198 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: Rich says who shot? Who? Who? Somebody get shot? 199 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 5: And choices we got in lay? Those were your choices? 200 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 2: Who? 201 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 4: It actually pretty interesting conversation before or you know, the 202 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 4: gun winner. So the other thing I wanted to squeeze 203 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: in a couple more kind of wrapping up the year, 204 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 4: looking forward to the year things, because I'll rant and 205 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: rave about the previous story for. 206 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: The rest of my life. 207 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: But Jan Crawford was on CBS's face the Nation Sunday. 208 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: I saw that, and she brought the thunder that the 209 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: most uncovered and underreported topic last year was clearly she said, 210 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: quote that to me, Joe Biden's obvious cognitive decline. They 211 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 4: became undeniable in the televised debate, unquestioned that that's the 212 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: most underreported story of the year. 213 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely true. But we'll be lost to history. It's 214 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 3: amazing that there isn't more introspection over that. Well, here's 215 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: the really interesting part. She says, still incredibly, we read 216 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: in the Washington Post that his advisers are saying that 217 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: he regrets that he dropped out of the race, that 218 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 3: he thinks he could have beaten Trump, and I think 219 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: that is either delusional or the gaslighting the American people. 220 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: But CBS's chief Election and campaign correspondent Robert Costa jumped 221 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: up and said, well, President Biden has repeatedly said he 222 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: was sick during the debate in Atlanta, and he's always 223 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: been fine, and he leaves fine. 224 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: That is his position. 225 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: The position of many of his top stadents, as well 226 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: as even though there is that reporting that Jan was 227 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: talking to reduce the obvious accepted by everyone reality of 228 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: Joe Biden's coggen decline as there is that reporting, but 229 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: he has now Jan he has said repeatedly had a cold. 230 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: Costa's lost to me, he's he's lost his mind. I 231 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: don't know who that's for. 232 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 3: Eighty five percent of America before that debate thought he 233 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: shouldn't serve again. So I don't know who you're serving 234 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: with that, But enjoy your bubble Bob, the Armstrong. 235 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: And Getty Show. 236 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, your show. 237 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: Podcasts and our hot. 238 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: Links Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show. 239 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: Thank You. In Los Angeles, jury has awarded a man 240 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: fifty million dollars after he was seriously burned by a 241 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: Starbucks drink. Now, the person got burnt pretty good, but 242 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: I had on his junk, on his junk and says 243 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: he can't have sex anymore. Although you would make that 244 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: argument if you're trying to get fifty million dollars. 245 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: So whether that's accurate or not, I do not know. 246 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: But and I'm not a lawyer, but I don't know 247 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: how you work this out in society. On one hand, 248 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: I'm going through the drive through at Starbucks. 249 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: I don't deserve to be maimed for life. No, certainly, 250 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: not in my privets. 251 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: On the other hand, it's an impossible expectation that nothing 252 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: ever goes wrong ever, And you know, nailing down whether 253 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: it was the employee's fault or the person in the 254 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: car's fault is difficult. I mean, if you ever go 255 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: to Starbucks get more than one drink, they give you 256 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: that cardboard holder that the drinks fit in. And this 257 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 3: person claimed that they didn't secure the tea in. It 258 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: was sitting at an angle and then it spilled. Oh 259 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: maybe it was or maybe you hit it on the 260 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: window or with urob or whatever. I don't know, but anyway, 261 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: you can't get everything perfect all the time. 262 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: Fifty million dollars. 263 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: The problem with this, to me is what it's what 264 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: drives so many of the things that make us nuts 265 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: in life. The fact that the school won't let your 266 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: kid play if it's rained in the last two days. 267 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: You have to stay inside for reasss because they might slip, 268 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: and some jury will award one hundred million dollars. I mean, 269 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: it's just it's an unworkable situation for society. So I 270 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: don't and you know, you wouldn't want Starbucks to be 271 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: able to like, here comes my girlfriend's ex boyfriend. 272 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw. 273 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: Hot tea in his face at the drive through, and 274 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: there'd be no penalty for that. I mean, so there's 275 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: gotta be a Ligne somewhere obviously. 276 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 277 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: I just think we've gotten so far off tracks as 278 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: a society because it's very different than virtually any other 279 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: legal system on Earth. You're not going to get a 280 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: fifty million dollar reward like this in Argentina or or 281 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: probably Britain. I don't think, But I don't think we 282 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 4: as people understand how far off we've gotten. And a 283 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: big reason for that. What is the number one profession 284 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: among legislators. It's not even close. 285 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's an attorney, right, and the whole jury 286 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: thing where you this is one of the reasons that 287 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: we regularly say, you know, don't make those jokes about 288 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: how to get out of jury duty. Show up on 289 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: the jury so you could say, so you could be 290 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: there as a smart person, say fifty fifty million dollars 291 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: is insane, Yes, because you got to. I'm guessing you 292 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: got a jury. Pro peoples of Starbucks is rich, they 293 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: can afford it. I don't like them anyway, you know 294 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: that sort. 295 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: Of thing, right, Yeah, yeah, boy. 296 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: If there's one technology mankind has not perfected, it's the 297 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 4: getting the cup lid to click on the cup thing 298 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: in the world of coffee. And you know, granted, I'm 299 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: an older fellow now, and I've learned the hard lessons 300 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 4: of life, sometimes more than once, usually more than once 301 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: before I absorb them. Boy, anybody who has boiling hot 302 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: coffee and assumes that lid is on their right, you 303 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: are a bold man and a foolish one. 304 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 305 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: I just when I heard that, I just thought, oh crap, 306 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: this is going to lead to even more Sorry, we 307 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: can't allow you to do this stuff. 308 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: Or you get like room temperature coffee. 309 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: Right, coffee can't ever be That might be the reaction 310 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 3: from Starbucks, No more hot coffee. I know lots of 311 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: people order stuff extra hot, because I've known Barista's order 312 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: stuff extra hot. It's already so hot you can't drink it. 313 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: But it's the idea that it'll be it's so hot 314 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: that by the time you get to work on your 315 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: fifteen minute commute, it'll still be hot. 316 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: Well, I'll bet that goes out the window after this settlement. Yeah. 317 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: So I shouldn't say this, but everybody's thinking about it, 318 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: so I will. So this guy got fifty million dollars 319 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: as he could never have sex again? 320 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: Was he any good at it? I mean, does that 321 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: factor into the juries? Yeah? 322 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: I mean you think they should interview previous lovers and say, so, 323 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 3: how much of a loss is this for humanity? 324 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I mean because it's obviously lost to him, 325 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 4: no matter his skills, but to humanity, because shouldn't that 326 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 4: be a fifty to fifty thing on also Consortium, et cetera, 327 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 4: on a scale of me to wow, where was he exactly? 328 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm asking these questions. I don't have the answers. 329 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, God dang it. 330 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show, The 331 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: arm Strong and Geeddy Show. 332 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 4: Joanna Stern writes about tech for The Wall Street Journal. 333 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 4: She's very clever, as you're about to hear, and sounds 334 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 4: down to earth and as I enjoy your writing. 335 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: The opening bit of this article tells it all. 336 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 4: I've been wearing a wire everywhere since February. I've got 337 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 4: all the transcripts important meetings, arguments with my kids, chats 338 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: with disgruntled employees, late night bathroom routines. There's plenty more 339 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: that I can't share if I want you to keep 340 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: liking me. She has been willingly wearing a fifty dollars 341 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 4: be Pioneer bracelet that records everything she says and uses 342 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 4: AI to summarize her life and send her helpful reminders. 343 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 4: Getting back to the article, I also tested two similar gadgets, 344 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 4: the one hundred and ninety nine dollars Limitless Pendant and 345 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 4: the one hundred and fifty nine. 346 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 2: Dollars plowd Note pin. 347 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 4: These assistants can recall every dumb, private, and cringe worthy 348 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: thing that came out of my mouth. Is this the 349 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 4: dawn of the AI surveillance state? Absolutely? Is it also 350 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 4: the dream of hyper personal, all knowing AI assistance coming 351 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 4: to life? 352 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: Also? Yes? Absolutely, Yeah, it's funny. 353 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: The first thing I thought of was, and usually i'm 354 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: I'm my first go to is surveillance state. But my 355 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: first thought was, wow, if I had AI reminding me, hey, 356 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: remember you're gonna work on that. Getting your real ID 357 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: the deadline's coming up. I would love that. 358 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was just gonna say, if y'all are 359 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 4: sitting there thinking. 360 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: What the hell good would this do me? 361 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 4: She gets to that and it's pretty cool. Let me 362 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: read more of her piece. Within hours of wearing the 363 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: bee again, one of the three devices she tried, I 364 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: was blown away how quickly it turned ramblings in random 365 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 4: chatter into useful, actionable information. Yet allow me to quote 366 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: myself from February twenty fourth at five point fifteen pm. Wow, 367 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: quote this bracelet is really effing creepy. 368 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: So here's how they work. 369 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: And she mentions that all the denials we've heard through 370 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 4: the years that social media apps are secretly listening to 371 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 4: us too hard, too intensive, too much datah, yeah, please, 372 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 4: but all those devices do that. They detect dialogue, especially 373 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 4: your voice, and they stream the audio to your phone 374 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 4: via Bluetooth, then to company servers where it's transcribed. AI 375 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 4: models take the transcription and generate summaries, which appear in 376 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 4: the apps within minutes. Now, one of the devices that 377 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 4: does not save the audio. 378 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: All it has is the transcriptions. 379 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: The other one, limitless keeps the audio, letting you play 380 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: back full recordings of everything you've said, boy. 381 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh boy. 382 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 3: But it's a little weird for us because I have 383 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: full recordings of what I say four hours a day, 384 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: five days a week the past thirty years. 385 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: But so it's not as foreign to me. 386 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: But why i'd be something, But you and I also 387 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 4: have a heightened awareness of the difference between when the 388 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 4: mics are on and when they're not true, And more 389 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: than one good career has been ended because a mic 390 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 4: was on somebody thought it was not I've had a 391 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 4: few disadonge that bullet a couple of times ourselves. 392 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: I've had a few disagreements in my life, like minor 393 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 3: to major, where would have been kind of handy to 394 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 3: be able to go back and say, I'm. 395 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: Pretty sure you didn't mention that to me. They said, yeah, 396 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: I did. It's like to. 397 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 4: Screet the commercials. Who is it an insurance commercial? I 398 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 4: can't remember. Let's go to the tape and they go 399 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 4: under the hood, right like NFL referees. 400 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Katie. 401 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: I'm just thinking this sounds like a wife's dream. 402 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: The amount of time were like I told you we 403 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: have dinner tonight at five, No you didn't. Let's go 404 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: to the tape. Let's go to the tape, sir. That's fantastic. 405 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 4: Then she gets into some of the technical ups and downs, 406 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 4: and Katie would love to have you comment on this 407 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 4: to your heart's content. But and she gets into how 408 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 4: AI is nothing without data. 409 00:21:59,119 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: It needs data. 410 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: So when you feeded everything you've said for days, weeks, 411 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 4: and months, it gets infinitely more useful. Also, yes, it 412 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 4: becomes a lot more like a Black Mirror episode, but 413 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: we'll get into that. 414 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: She writes. 415 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: With massive transcripts of your life, the AI in these 416 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 4: apps can summarize. They recap your conversations, often reading like 417 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: a bad biography. This is great. The b Device summary 418 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 4: from April ninth, Johanna's day was a blend of familiar 419 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 4: responsibilities and intense professional engagements. She ended the day listening 420 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 4: to music by sting riveting stuff. Can't wait for the 421 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: movie adaptation. 422 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 3: Wow, there'd be some days, excuse me, there'd be some days. 423 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 3: Read at disappointed in the summary. You worked, you came home, 424 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: you scrolled through Twitter, you ate crap and went to bed. 425 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: Oh my own business AI? 426 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: Who Jack is eating his twenty seventh double quarter pounder 427 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: in this week? 428 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thank you crack yeah, it was Kenton, I am. 429 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: The transcriptions themselves aren't all that accurate, but the summaries 430 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 4: usually off are well except for March twenty fourth conversation 431 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: with Johnny Cochrane about trial evidence. 432 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: Yep, just a casual chat with a deceased celebrity lawyer. 433 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: And she says in parentheses, I was watching the new 434 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: OJ documentary. That's funny. But Jack to your prescient point earlier. 435 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 4: Some of the ways that they're helpful is summarizing things 436 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 4: and reminders. Turns out I promise to do a lot 437 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 4: of things without putting them on a to do list. 438 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: B listens for action items and adds them to suggested 439 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: lists because they understand the. 440 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: Verbiage in an action item. 441 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 4: It's repeatedly reminded me of important tasks like calling the 442 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: plumber or following up on work stuff. But it also 443 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 4: hilariously adds things I'd never put on a list, like quote, 444 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: check in on your six son, or schedule a follow 445 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: up with your hairstylist to discuss your haircut. 446 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 2: Let's see it analyzes. God, No, how great would that be. 447 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: I'll bet this happens soon. 448 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: And like a lot of things in life, we can't 449 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 3: remember what it was like before it where you know 450 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: in ten years age? 451 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: Remember when you like now where? 452 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: I often think, you know, I go somewhere and I think, 453 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: how did I used to get to places? I don't 454 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: even remember how I used to get to places? Did 455 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: I pull out a map? Or how did I even 456 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: do it? 457 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: As friendly strangers? Right? 458 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, sometimes you'd pull into a gas station and say, 459 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 3: you know, I'm looking for the sporting goods store, which 460 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: I know is around here somewhere, but I could see 461 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: here in a couple of years. Would be like, do 462 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: you remember when you used to have to remember things 463 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: or write them down on a post it note instead 464 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: of having AI tell me, remember your son's got the 465 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 3: volleyball game, so you got to pick them up from 466 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: school early. 467 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: That sort of yeah. 468 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 4: Right, I can't be the only person assembled friends who 469 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 4: is not great at making to do lists. And how 470 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 4: many times have I said, I mean, Jeff, yeah no, 471 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: I won't bother, I'll remember it. I'll remember to make 472 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 4: to do lists. How many times have I said, when 473 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 4: I think of it, I don't have time, and when 474 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 4: I have time, I don't think of it. 475 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: Correct Anyway, Here's another thing. 476 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 4: It does both be and Limitless have chatbots so you 477 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: can ask about your recorded life. I asked B for 478 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 4: a detailed breakdown of my cursing habits. Daily average two 479 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 4: point four curses. Please, you're not even trying, sweetheart, But 480 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 4: it can. 481 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: Be what are you a nun? 482 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 483 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: Two point four a day. 484 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's impressive. Well she has kids, good for you. 485 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're never in the car alone. Get on 486 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: my blanking way. 487 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 4: But then she says it can be genuinely helpful, like quote, 488 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: look through my chats with Ethan from B and tell 489 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: me what AI model it uses, So reminders of factual 490 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 4: things you heard in a conversation that are a little fuzzy. 491 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: Now, God, I'm starting to think I might So all 492 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: of this surveillance stuff we've all opted in, we've all 493 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 3: decided we're going to carry around a tracking device with 494 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: us all the time, and we all know that we 495 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: just feel like the advantages outweigh the possible disadvantages. I 496 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: think this might end up being true for recording everything. 497 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: I say that the advantages will outweigh the You know 498 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: how it could be misused. God, if you could quickly 499 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 3: you wouldn't even have to listen to the conversation. If 500 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: AI could go back through the transcript and it would say, yeah, 501 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 3: your wife did tell you that you had dinner to 502 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: night at five oh cramp eh. 503 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: Um, or no they didn't. It might be handy. Yeah, 504 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: I tell you. 505 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: I would describe myself, and again, I have a feeling 506 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 4: I'm not unique in this is busy, well meaning and 507 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 4: absent minded. And if my what sits could say to me, hey, 508 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 4: remember you agreed to play a golf with Gordy tomorrow afternoon, 509 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 4: I'd be like, oh, shoot right, because you know that's 510 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 4: one of my great weaknesses. 511 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 3: So care's how and you're built that way or you're not. 512 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: It's so obvious because I got two kids that are 513 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 3: completely different. I got one kid that's very close to 514 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 3: me on term of that stuff, kind of like you 515 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 3: just described my other kid. 516 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: It just it just all locked in his brain all 517 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: the time. 518 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: He knows where everything is, he knows what's on the 519 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: schedule today, he knows it's all there all the time. 520 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. But I can't. I can't try harder and be 521 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: that way. Yeah. 522 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 4: One of the reasons my wife and I have escaped 523 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: financial ruin and other bad fates is she's meticulous, and 524 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 4: so you know when she like pays a bill late, 525 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 4: it's alert the media. 526 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just what anyway, how they're creepy. 527 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 4: February twenty third, five point fifteen, in a conversation with 528 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 4: my mom. This bracelet has nothing to do with fitness. 529 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: It records everything that's being said, as her mom was 530 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: asking her, Nobody I've talked to over the past few 531 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: months would have known I was recording them if I 532 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 4: hadn't told them. 533 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: It's a little fun like I'm a low budget Ethan Hunt. 534 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't get that references by some sort. 535 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: Mostly though, I just felt like a creep and depending 536 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: on the state, I might have been breaking the law. 537 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other side of this. All that conversation stuff. 538 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: Both ends of it should be as into it as 539 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: maybe I would be. Otherwise, you're recording all your friends conversations. 540 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: That's and family's. That's pretty dicey. 541 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 5: And then. 542 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 4: Some of these are just hilarious because they have transcripts 543 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 4: and summaries right of your various conversations. This one's labeled 544 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 4: interaction with pet Dog Browser. I think it's browser, but 545 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 4: maybe it is browser. That's a very writery thing to 546 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: name your dog. Here's the transcript. Someone scolded browser for 547 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 4: chewing something. Speaker one, Browser, what are you doing? Speaker 548 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 4: one again? Can you not chew your whatever? Speaker one again? Browser? 549 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: Some transcripts? Yeah, oh that is some useful stuff. Most 550 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 4: of my recordings were in New Jersey and New York. Sure, 551 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 4: one party consent states, and I'd agreed. But if I 552 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 4: were in one of about a dozen states that require 553 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 4: two party consent, I need permission from everyone in earshot 554 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 4: or end up with a possible civil liability case. 555 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I don't know how that's gonna work in 556 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: states where you got to have two party consent. 557 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 4: And then she quotes a lawyer Jack, who surprisingly says 558 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 4: you better not, which is what lawyers are paid to say. 559 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 4: More specifically, he says I would make sure everyone has 560 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 4: consented verbally, and while the risk might be low, he adds, 561 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 4: we would never recommend people take that risk. 562 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 3: Well, geez, I mean if somebody walks up to me 563 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: and says, I wear a device that records all of our. 564 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: Conversations, just want to make sure that's okay with you, I'd. 565 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 4: Be an automatic no f all the way off yeah, exactly. 566 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 4: How far away can you get in the next ten seconds? 567 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: Get there? How does this benefit me in any way? 568 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: There's only down side, So any thoughts, usefulness, hazards, etcetera. 569 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 4: Drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong and getty 570 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: dot com. We'll hit them around the same time tomorrow. 571 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: During the show, they kind of reminded me of stuff though, 572 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: because it remembers what I said. 573 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: That'd be cool. 574 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, if they could refine it to promises and actions. 575 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: And of course, you know, in the scenario we've we've 576 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 4: talked about a couple of times, it would have to 577 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: be recording my wife saying don't don't forget we're having 578 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 4: dinner with the Joneses next Tuesday. 579 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: But it does it also record remember the other night 580 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: when you said you'd blink my blank. 581 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: Oh no, you don't know. 582 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 4: Of course, it'd be good to have a transcript funny 583 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 4: right here in black and white. 584 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: All right, Yes, I see it's here. Not trying to 585 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: be argumentative here, but read the transfer eight seventeen on 586 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: April the third. I mean, it's just it's just a. 587 00:30:50,640 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 6: Fact I'm strong and getting show a shadowy network called 588 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 6: seven sixty four, whose goal is to spark violence and 589 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 6: chaos around the world, in part by luring in unsuspecting teenagers. 590 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 7: Seven sixty four targets kids on social media and gaming platforms, 591 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 7: extorting them into sending violent and sexual content. The FBI 592 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 7: is warning parents to pay attention to who their kids 593 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 7: are talking to on social media and gaming platforms. The 594 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 7: FBI's investigating more than two hundred and fifty suspects tied 595 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 7: to seven sixty four, with every. 596 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: Field office involved. Well, that's just dandy. 597 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: I am a parent of teenagers who'd never even heard 598 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: of that in my life until two seconds ago. 599 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: So that's just great. 600 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: Let's just put that on the long list of things 601 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 3: you can be concerned about if your kid's got a phone. 602 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 4: Not so fast, there's more to be concerned about if 603 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: your kid has a phone. I was just reading that 604 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: the hacker ring that you may remember put Vegas. 605 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: Out of commission? 606 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: What was that? 607 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 4: Years? 608 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: Six months ago, a year ago? I don't know. 609 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 4: Time flies when you're but they brought down all those 610 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: casinos for a time. That is a very loosely assembled 611 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 4: group of bored, malcontent, mischievous youngsters who call themselves the 612 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: con or something like that. And this specific subgroup of 613 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: the subgroup calls themselves scattered Spider, I guess, and they 614 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: just they hack into various corporations and companies and government 615 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 4: institutions and stuff like that for fun and mischief, and 616 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 4: sometimes they steal, but sometimes they. 617 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: Just screw with it. 618 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 3: That whole keep track of who your kids talk to 619 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 3: on social media and everything like that sounded a lot 620 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: easier before, well before my kids got old enough to 621 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: be involved in that world. And as far as I 622 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: can tell, I'm more strict than a lot of my 623 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 3: son's friends parents are. And it's still just I mean, 624 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: there's just so many opportunities for them to be involved 625 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 3: with bad people. I mean, unless I'm gonna be over 626 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: his shoulder all the time. 627 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. 628 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 4: I I was a very big fan as a parent, 629 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 4: partly for that reason, and I completely support the idea 630 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: of trying not to trying to eliminate opportunities to do 631 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 4: bad things one hundred percent. But I realized at one 632 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 4: point what you're talking about, and so I just really 633 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 4: emphasized the underlying principles right behind doing some things and 634 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 4: not doing some things, and how extremely important they were 635 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 4: to me as their dad and their mom certainly, but 636 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 4: how important and fundamental they are to being a good 637 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 4: person and a bad person. And then when they're loose 638 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 4: on the town and they're presented with temptation, you hope 639 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 4: and pray they make the right choice, and or if 640 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 4: they make the wrong choice, it's not a disaster. 641 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: Right, which has a lot to do with their friend 642 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: group and everything else, which has always been true. And 643 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 3: the opportunity to get in trouble is exponentially greater now 644 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 3: than it was twenty years ago. I mean, it's just 645 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: a completely different world. You couldn't order heroin and in 646 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: a machine gun from any tiny town in America when 647 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: I was in high school, or come across a you know, 648 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 3: an international pedophile sex ring. 649 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: It just wasn't gonna happen. Yeah, I know, I know. 650 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 4: I was going to bring up a kind of vague 651 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 4: philosophical theme about the modern world. Don't really have time 652 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 4: to get into it now, but. 653 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: Has to do. 654 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 4: And I can't get into specifics in my little world. Really, 655 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 4: You'll have to forgive me for that for now. But 656 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 4: a friend of mine characterized kind of a mood as 657 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 4: the slime from the Ghostbusters movies, the original Ghostbuster, the 658 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 4: early eighties, classic early eighties, like eighties three, when was 659 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 4: that out? Anyway, you may recall that when all the 660 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 4: ghosts were running wild in New York City, one of 661 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: the things they did was like spread this green slime 662 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 4: around ghost The effect it had was not just you know, 663 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 4: green slime is effect enough, ick, but but it caused 664 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 4: New Yorkers to be angry and disagreeable and turn on 665 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 4: each other. And we're discussing a very local context and 666 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 4: also the angst and not happiness of youth, and the 667 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 4: fact that incumbents all over the developed world are getting 668 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 4: tossed out of office, and the parties that have been 669 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 4: fairly stable and in power, you know, they switch places 670 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 4: now and again, but they're just getting tossed aside, there 671 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 4: is a near global feeling of angst and unhappiness that 672 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 4: I don't ever recall before true. 673 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: That what do we do with this information? To do 674 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: about it? 675 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: We get used to it, do we settle into some 676 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: or it just keeps getting worse by heroin and machine 677 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: guns on the internet, like we're discussing earlier, Fantastic. 678 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show. 679 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, more Joe, More Joe podcasts and our hotlinks at 680 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: Armstrong and get dot com.