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Speaker 1: that woo whoom? And Dan and Tie Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Solid Verbal, boys and girls. My name is ty

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Speaker 1: Hilton Brandt. I am joined as always by my friend

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Speaker 1: His name is Dan Rubinstein. Sir. How are you you know? Ty?

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Speaker 2: It is It is a time of upheaval and change

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Speaker 2: and new things and feeling pretty good all things considered, Tye,

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Speaker 2: can talk about this a little later. Heisman Trophy ceremony

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Speaker 1: From the huge ceremony. Yeah, so life is good. A

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Speaker 1: Solid Verbal Dan. Before we get into it, I want

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Speaker 1: to invite everyone to get in on our bullpool. I've

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Speaker 1: in on the bullpool. It's a confidence pool. When you

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Speaker 1: and I go through and preview all the games, we're

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Speaker 1: or just going to talk about all the Bowl games

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Speaker 1: relative to our confidence in each of those outcomes, so

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Speaker 1: we'll give our confidence picks for you. And also, we

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Speaker 1: of the anonymous name of robert A. Robert A. Robert

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Speaker 3: News, Danny, you have a new head football coach up

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Speaker 3: there in Eugene, Oregon, Do you not?

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Speaker 2: I don't personally, and I'm definitely not in Eugene, Oregon.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Oregon is hired, and this was it seemed

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Speaker 2: And that specific hire was in the works for a

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Speaker 2: who I think all in all, it's a very good hire.

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Speaker 2: He's somebody with a very good coaching pedigree, comes from

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Speaker 2: He doesn't necessarily need to turn Oregon around from like

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Speaker 1: The dabbo mold. Has he has anyone given comment yet

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Speaker 2: The gimmick offense that just demolish Navy this year. I

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Speaker 1: To know what his plans are because Oregon's not been

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Speaker 2: The personnel is in place in Eugene to run a

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Speaker 2: we've been following Willie Taggert since his days at Western

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Speaker 2: That's not something you hear a whole lot of There

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Speaker 2: this is the system I run, this is the plan.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Matt Ruhle actually in some of

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Speaker 1: the interviews he's given, he's talked about Tom Kaughlin in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you feel about the higher tie, just

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Speaker 1: I feel better about this one than I do the

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, but at least Wily Taggart has some experience

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Speaker 1: been prior, he's been really successful. Just in looking at

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Speaker 1: My favorite quote of all times from Mike Tyson about

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Speaker 1: how you know if you're a real innovator, if you

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Speaker 1: Matt Rule is a guy I know you're really high on.

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Speaker 1: He's done great things at Temple, Baylor rewarded him with

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Speaker 1: USA today. Hello, Hi, tie, Hey, Nicle, how are you?

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Speaker 2: That's a lot when you're sitting next to the other half.

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Speaker 5: But well, also in the Notre Dame community, he's waiting

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Speaker 4: But I guess you know, I've been around.

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Speaker 5: Him a little bit, Like I said, you don't you

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Speaker 5: don't know people, but I would just think he's not

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Speaker 5: Clearly No, But you know, I mean the American Athletic

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Speaker 5: I think to him, you know, this is a high

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Speaker 1: That's a good point.

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Speaker 4: Beautiful facilities. You're in Texas.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you, if you can get that going,

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Speaker 1: Kolachi's ty.

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Speaker 2: I will also add I loaded up picture right now

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Speaker 5: Yeah. It's actually something I look at all the time

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Speaker 2: So Matt Rule looks closer to a bear than Jeff

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Speaker 2: Bram looks to a boiler Maker, than Willie Taggert looks

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Speaker 5: You know who I miss, By the way, this is unrelated.

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Speaker 1: No one that's true.

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Speaker 2: Bo Ryan could put on a sweater and just be

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Speaker 1: So you're telling me that Jeff Brohm doesn't look like

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Speaker 5: Like you know, like how Facebook was invented, like face smash,

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Speaker 1: Do you know anything about Jeff brom Do you have

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Speaker 5: Not, just just that you know, he's just been a

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Speaker 5: to bring like the Key's known for a certain style

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Speaker 5: And so you know, you bring a coach like that,

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Speaker 5: I mean I thought, I think that's a really good

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm, that's a good hire for Purdue.

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Speaker 2: I have one more question and then we'll let Nicole

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Speaker 2: Pisman Trophy. Very excited about that number one dog that

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Speaker 5: Oh man, this is a really tough question because I

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Speaker 5: Working on it now, I've been falling on Snapchat and

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Speaker 4: I watch it every day.

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Speaker 2: Dog, have you seen any Have you seen the husky,

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Speaker 5: I actually took a photo next to the monument, okay,

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Speaker 2: Me Handsome Dan, which is the greatest mascot name there is, Yale,

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Speaker 2: the Hooya of Georgetown. You've not come across this year?

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Speaker 1: Not yet? Okay yet?

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Speaker 5: Jack always gets jealous THO when I spend time with

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Speaker 5: I guess you know it wasn't alive. We know how

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Speaker 2: Sure, dogs, everybody knows, how about you?

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Speaker 4: But I live with a live dog.

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Speaker 1: I have shown pictures of your dog, Nicole to my wife,

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Speaker 4: Wait, should I bring the dog?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the rules an is it? Is

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Speaker 4: Probably not.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna Ryan has to check on that. And if

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Speaker 1: to talk about the puppy.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I think we should.

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Speaker 1: Nicole has a lot to say about her dog.

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Speaker 4: Okay, food and puppies.

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Speaker 1: It's a date done. Boom, Thank you, Nicole.

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Speaker 4: I'll see you there.

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Speaker 1: We got the whole Kramer merv Griffin set thing going

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Speaker 1: talked about Willie Taggert. What are your thoughts about Matt Ruhle.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we had a guest on and she talked

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Speaker 2: about it, and I think she brought up some good points.

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Speaker 2: So you have can this be an honest space tie? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're all friends here. You have some skepticism I do

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Speaker 2: about Matt Rule.

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Speaker 1: I think Matt Rule's a good coach. I think what

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Speaker 1: he's done at Temple has been nothing short of a miracle. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not a long enough track record for me to

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Speaker 1: feel totally confident in him moving to a big school.

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Speaker 1: That might not be his fault. I'm not saying it is,

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Speaker 1: but I've never been like super gung ho on Rule,

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Speaker 1: and is probably because he comes from that old mindset

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Speaker 1: of we're going to run the ball and play defense.

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Speaker 1: If you can do that effectively, especially in the Big twelve,

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Speaker 1: then you're certainly onto something. But I just feel like

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Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to do that in the American

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Speaker 1: than it might be in a big Power five conference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my first thought was like, Wow, that's a weird fit.

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Speaker 2: He's defensive minded, they run the ball really well. He's

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Speaker 2: not an air raid guy. He's not from Texas. But

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Speaker 2: part of me thinks going against that sort of norm like,

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Speaker 2: where has that gotten Texas Tech?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Where has that recently gotten TCU? Where has that gotten

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State?

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Speaker 1: Beyond?

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Speaker 2: Like they get to the door, but they never really

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Speaker 2: get through the door. And it's sort of just like

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Speaker 2: it plays into what you can recruit in Texas. But

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Speaker 2: there's no reason that dominant receiver can't be a dominant

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Speaker 2: safety and sort of playing against type. I think if

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Speaker 2: Matt Rule is the type of and we mentioned this

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Speaker 2: with Willie Tagger day to day gets buy and recruit,

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Speaker 2: sort of get everybody on the same page kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: There's no reason that can't work work at Baylor for

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Speaker 2: football reasons. There are extenuating circumstances in Waco, but I

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Speaker 2: think it's a pretty good situation. I still think he

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Speaker 2: can succeed. It's gonna take some time, though, because the

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Speaker 2: numbers there are the numbers are, the numbers are not

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Speaker 2: in his.

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Speaker 1: Favor at this point. He is going to play defense

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Speaker 1: and he's going to run the football. If he can

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Speaker 1: get that going the Big twelve, I think he can

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Speaker 1: be really successful doing it. He just doesn't have as

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Speaker 1: long a track record as some of these other names

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Speaker 1: here that we've been discussing, and that that, to me,

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Speaker 1: is really the main source of skepticism. Okay, next coaching higher. Also,

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Speaker 1: before we go to a commercial break, we should mention

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Speaker 1: in a little more detailed this Jeff Bram hiring to Purdue.

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Speaker 1: So Jeff Bram's a guy that universally speaking, everyone seems

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Speaker 1: to be pretty gung ho in this hire for Purdue.

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Speaker 1: Like people are talking about this and from the standpoint

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Speaker 1: of Purdue's lucky that he chose them above some of

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Speaker 1: the other options that we're out there for him. By

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Speaker 1: all accounts, is a pretty good hire, and as Nicole said,

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Speaker 1: Purdue needs to be exciting again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like having a definitive schematic direction, not necessarily advantage,

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Speaker 2: but direction. What he's been able to do at Western

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Speaker 2: Kentucky has been nothing short of spectacular offensively within the

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Speaker 2: context of the Hilltopper schedule. Everywhere he's been he succeeded

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Speaker 2: to various degrees. Obviously, his pedigree is both playing he

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Speaker 2: played and coached at Louisville, I believe with some pro

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Speaker 2: experience obviously, so I think what he will try to

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Speaker 2: do at Purdue is he will try to recruit some speed,

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Speaker 2: you know, two three star speed, which listen, if you

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Speaker 2: can teach specific roles, you can beat teams with better talent.

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Speaker 2: The key is going to be defense if you're going

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Speaker 2: to be playing with that tempo, if you're going to score.

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Speaker 1: Quickly at all.

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Speaker 2: But the bottom of the Big Ten right now is

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Speaker 2: such that you can win six, seven, eight games by

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Speaker 2: getting a schedule break, non conference break and catching teams

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Speaker 2: at home after a buy week. Things like that that

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Speaker 2: I'm not confident Purdue is getting to Joe Tiller heights

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Speaker 2: by any stretch, but he can certainly. If you can

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Speaker 2: do one thing really really well no matter where you are,

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Speaker 2: and you go back to like what Mike Leach did

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Speaker 2: early on at Texas Tech, you can become that team

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Speaker 2: that is scaring you don't want to play them ever,

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Speaker 2: And that's what I think the ceiling is, and that's fine.

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Speaker 1: One thing that I read about Jeff Brahm that really

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Speaker 1: made me excited just as a college football fan, is

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Speaker 1: also his ability to be flexible. Maybe not quite as

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Speaker 1: flexible as a Willie Taggart, but certainly he's a guy

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Speaker 1: who is really good at assessing his personnel and coming

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Speaker 1: up with some way to fit that into his system

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Speaker 1: using the tools in front of him. He seems to

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Speaker 1: be pretty good at that. So we'll see. He's going

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Speaker 1: to have his work cut out for him at Purdue.

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Speaker 1: But if you're a Purdue fan, I think this this

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Speaker 1: feels like a bit of a coup and it's a

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Speaker 1: good hire. So we've got three teams now with coaches.

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Speaker 1: We've got three other teams that are now in search

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Speaker 1: of coaches, which we will discuss here again at the

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Speaker 1: appropriate time. But before we move on and talk about

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Speaker 1: some other news, Dan, have you heard of blue Apron?

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Speaker 2: I not only have heard of blue Apron, I've used

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I love it when you struggle with this. It's just

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Speaker 1: and jasmine rice. Nailed that one too.

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Speaker 2: You did a good job.

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Speaker 1: And then they've got brown butter and chestnut and yaki

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Speaker 2: the word with that. No, it's ya, it's yoki.

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Speaker 1: at Albama? They going to have a quarterback for these

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Speaker 1: here playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They will have Jalen Hurts And I'm sorry that's that's

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Speaker 2: the end of my sentence because at this point so

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Speaker 2: Blake Barnett transferred at the end of September. Correct, Correct,

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Speaker 2: it was right around then for the purposes of academic

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Speaker 2: calendar stuff going transferring to a school I think on

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Speaker 2: the quarter system and he is now it is. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it's official in terms of science sealed deliver,

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Speaker 2: but he has committed to play for Arizona State movie Forward,

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Speaker 2: which is closer to his home in San Diego. David

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Speaker 2: Cornwell and Cooper Bateman aka Copper Batman have decided also

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Speaker 2: to transfer, and I think we anticipated one of the two,

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Speaker 2: but not necessarily both. When you have a true freshman

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Speaker 2: quarterback who immediately makes a big impact, that's when numbers

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Speaker 2: become tricky. And I don't know what happens if Jalen

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Speaker 2: hurts and it's by his namesake, and we hope for

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Speaker 2: continued health if he gets hurt against Washington or against

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Speaker 2: whoever they might play in the National Championship game. If

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Speaker 2: they get by Washington, I don't know what they do

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Speaker 2: if they have like a backup. I know somebody mentioned

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Speaker 2: in our Darius Stewart contingency emergency wildcat plan because I

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Speaker 2: think the name of the kid behind him is like

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Speaker 2: Montana Murphy and he's a backup high school quarterback that's

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Speaker 2: his experience.

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Speaker 1: Does that mean that the game plan will feature less

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts on the move.

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Speaker 2: It could, Yeah, I really would hope not, because that

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Speaker 2: is what has gotten Alabama to this point, and by

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Speaker 2: rolling back their offense, you take a pretty big risk

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Speaker 2: against a very very good, if not great, Washington team

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Speaker 2: that they struggle and give the ball to Washington with

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Speaker 2: advantageous field position or to sort of tire out that defense.

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Speaker 2: Here's my question to you, though, Ty, bigger picture. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a huge problem that we've seen

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks transfer at just astronomical rates because they don't become

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Speaker 2: a starter, they want to start elsewhere. Is there anything

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Speaker 2: that can be done about getting quarterbacks to places and

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Speaker 2: into positions in which they sort of know they're a

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Speaker 2: backup quarterback and they'll be pretty good if called upon,

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Speaker 2: but won't necessarily want to start for Alabama Or is

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Speaker 2: that just a problem that you have to deal with

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Speaker 2: and you play a competitive sport like football.

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Speaker 1: I think equal responsibility falls on the coaches in some

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Speaker 1: cases for over promising, and in other cases probably on

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Speaker 1: the kids for maybe not knowing the landscape that they're

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Speaker 1: walking into. That's just sort of the nature of the Beast.

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Speaker 1: If you try out for a traveling team at any age,

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Speaker 1: you know that it's competitive.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, they arrived in Alabama a year at

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Speaker 2: least a year before Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: They had no idea he existed. Nick Saban's probably on

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Speaker 1: the heels of this fifth championship at Alabama. He didn't

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Speaker 1: get there by playing next up. He got there by

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Speaker 1: playing the best available. You go into that setting. Sorry, man,

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Speaker 1: That's just sort of the way it goes. That's just

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Speaker 1: the nature of the Beast. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there's a great way to solve it. I would hope

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Speaker 1: that coaches aren't over promising. It could just be that

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Speaker 1: players are getting googly eyed knowing that Bama comes calling.

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Speaker 1: They want to play for Nick Saban, they want to

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Speaker 1: go to the NFL, And then you get in town.

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Speaker 1: You've got four other guys who are of equal mindset.

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Speaker 2: Such a strange, maybe unorthodox, recent history of Alabama quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: So if aj Mccaern whos sort of all timer in

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Speaker 2: terms of just pure efficiency, and then Blake Simms, who

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Speaker 2: a lot of people thought might be moving to running back.

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Speaker 2: You have Jay Koker who comes in and everybody assumes

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Speaker 2: he's going to start right away, but he sits down

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Speaker 2: for a year to learn the offense as a grad

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Speaker 2: transfer from Florida State and then comes in as a

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Speaker 2: grad transfer and runs the offense and leads them to

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Speaker 2: a national championship in his only year starting, much like

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Speaker 2: Blake Sims led them to a playoff and his only

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Speaker 2: year starting. And now we have a true freshman all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden taking over and now Alabama's like a

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Speaker 2: spread option read option team. Weird, just a very It's

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Speaker 2: unexpected and cool to see that they have this much

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Speaker 2: success at the most important position with sort of figuring

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Speaker 2: it out on the fly.

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Speaker 1: But man did not see that coming. All right, here

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Speaker 1: are your Heisman Finals. We've got Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: Dede Westbrook, our Boy, Jabrill Peppers, and Deshaun Watson. Dan

655
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Speaker 1: who's your pick? Uh, Dalvin Cook? I don't know.

656
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: I don't feel so. Lamar Jackson hit the highest highs

657
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: of anybody this season offense or defense. And I know

658
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: Jonathan Allen had a great year. Jabrill Peppers is the

659
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: most versatile defensive player in the country. He is not

660
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: the best defensive player in the country, and that's okay

661
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: because he's still really, really good. He may not be

662
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: the best football player in the secondary for Michigan. That

663
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: looks like it's Jordan Lewis.

664
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Speaker 1: I'm going to be very as honest as I can be.

665
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: My favorite college football quarterback of all time won the

666
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy two years ago, and that was the only

667
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: moment that I feel like I truly cared about the award.

668
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: And it's just very difficult. I mean, we like to

669
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: make fun of Cam Newton thanking the troops. That was

670
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: a good moment, But the Heisman Trophy. One, it's obviously

671
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: not the Pisman Trophy, and two, it's just it's so

672
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: arbitrary in that we're just giving it to quarterbacks. And

673
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson had kind of a disappointing November, but it

674
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: didn't affect it.

675
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

676
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: I don't feel passionate about any of these guys. In

677
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: terms of standing above and beyond the rest of the sport.

678
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: I would go Lamar Jackson. The stats that he put

679
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: up in the early part of the season were mind boggling.

680
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: I think combined for what fifty one touchdowns this year

681
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: between running and throwing. Those numbers are are incredible. I

682
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: am with you, though, regarding the Heisman Trophy, and it's

683
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: not a hipster thing either for me to say I

684
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't like the Heisman. It's got nothing to do

685
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: with that. For me, I've just never been a fan

686
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: of individual awards. I don't like Heisman's, I don't like MVPs,

687
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: I don't like Halls of Fame. I don't like any

688
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I like the team sport. So for me,

689
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 1: this whole Heisman thing doesn't have as much significance. I

690
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: can't possibly imagine a Baker Mayfield or a d. D. Jabrill,

691
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: Peppers Deshaun Watson, any of those guys getting enough late

692
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: support to overtake Omar Jackson. So it's really anyone's guess

693
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: who comes in second among those candidate. That's sort of

694
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: been our narrative all year. It seemed like it was

695
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson all the way up at number one, and

696
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: then it was sort of a battle royale to figure

697
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: out just to figure out who number two could be.

698
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: So I'm curious from that standpoint to see who comes

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Speaker 1: in second.

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00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: Michael Dixon, Cameron Johnston, Mitch Wasshaunski Wishnowski. Excuse me, Texas,

701
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Utah who takes on the ray guy?

702
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

703
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: I always I ride with Utah kickers and punters, so

704
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm going with that.

705
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: Who are the Pisman finalists? By the way, Pisman finalists? God,

706
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: you asked Colton Coke. I believe it is how you

707
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: are caught. I don't know how you pronounced the last name.

708
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: It's koc h. I should look that up. Colton Coke

709
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: from Monmouth College in Illinois. With his end around pass,

710
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: it was on the run, a ridiculous play for a

711
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: right guard. Vincent Taylor, defensive lineman for Oklahoma State, blocked

712
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: a pat against Texas, scooped it up, ran with it

713
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: for a bit, lateraled it to another player who then

714
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: ran it in for a I guess two point conversion

715
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma State. And then Brian O'Neill, who had multiple

716
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 2: Piesman eligible plays and multiple piesman plays on the ballot.

717
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: His finalist play is for a play in which he

718
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: rolled out starting the play as a left tackle, rolled

719
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: out behind the quarterback, so technically it was a lateral

720
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: so it was a throwback lateral I think at about

721
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: the thirty yard line, which he ran up the sideline

722
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: for a touchdown. So Pitt, Oklahoma State, Monmouth College are

723
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: this year's epicenters.

724
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Speaker 1: What are the rules of the piesman trust? Am I

725
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: allowed to say if I voted for any of these finalists? Yeah?

726
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: You can indicate which. You don't have to indicate which

727
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 2: you put up top the list?

728
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: Right right right?

729
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: Which of these finalists of all three? Because we get

730
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: the top five from each voter, and you're a proud voter,

731
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: which of these, if any, appeared in your top five?

732
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: Two of the three finalists appeared to my top five,

733
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: and one of them would have been my six. Oh okay,

734
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: some great candidates is here. And I thought you guys

735
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: did a really good job presenting it, not you to

736
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: the people who were voting, but also the people at

737
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: home who might want to play along with the fun.

738
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: I thought you guys did a really good job packaging

739
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: it up this year. And I'm excited. I'm bringing solid

740
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: wife Kate up with me. We're excited to spend the

741
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: evening and maybe the next day in New York. We'll see.

742
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: So we have.

743
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: The ceremony is Friday night, six to eight pm Eastern,

744
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: so that would be three to five pm Pacific. Look

745
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: for it on eSPI Nations Facebook page. Look for it,

746
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: I believe, on YouTube live, and we will be tweeting

747
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: out the links. We will both be on camera at

748
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: a certain point. I will be presenting the sort of

749
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: introduction and explanation of everything to the audience into the broadcast,

750
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: and then Ryan, who is the chair of the Pisman Trust,

751
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: will be handing out the trophy to one of those

752
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: three very well deserving guys.

753
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: Will there be hard drinking afterwards as there was last year?

754
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: I believe so.

755
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe there will be an after party, and

756
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: I'm taking Friday. We're recording this on Wednesday. I'm taking

757
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 2: the finalists and their guests, which I believe our each

758
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: representatives of the school, coach or sidea or something like that.

759
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 2: I think we're doing a pizza feast for lunch. Oh cool,

760
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: just good old fashioned New York pizza.

761
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: Love it cool? All right? The final news tidbit before

762
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: we jump in and talk about a few other things

763
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: here and there. Yeah, Christian McCaffrey announced that he is

764
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: going pro He is not a Heisman finalist. You might

765
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: remember McCaffrey was injured for a chunk of the twenty

766
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: sixteen season. Still a great player, still a versatile player

767
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: who will find a spot on some NFL roster in

768
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, but had a nice statement announces his intentions

769
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: to go pro. I am excited to see how he

770
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: does the next level.

771
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: How many white running backs will he or even fullbacks

772
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: will he be compared to? Completely out of nowhere and incorrectly. Oh,

773
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: he's a Mike Alstatt type. I have to believe all

774
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: of them all at once. Yeah, even as a Danny Amandola,

775
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: I don't believe he plays that position.

776
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: Before we jump in and talk to Taylor, do you

777
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: want to answer some questions? Yeah? You want to.

778
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: You want to blitz football term through some Q and

779
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: a go lightning round. Let's lightning round. Want me to

780
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: go drum and five?

781
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: Drum and five? Whoo?

782
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, because I have a drum and five related question.

783
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: Oh really, go ahead, go ahead, absolutely, I do. Joe Morehead,

784
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: former Fordham coach, current Penn State offensive coordinator. They can

785
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: see a temple now with Matt Ruhle there, I'm going

786
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: to fade this out here head coaching experience.

787
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: Interests Ahilly interesting. I think if I were Joe Moorehead,

788
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: I would wait. And that's no disrespect to Temple because

789
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: Temple is a much better job now after Al Golden

790
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: and Matt Rule got done with it. They're also building

791
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: a stadium and trying to inject some new life and

792
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: excitement into college football in the great city of Philadelphia.

793
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: But that's a couple of years out, and I gotta

794
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: believe if I'm Joe Moorehead with the job I did

795
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: this past season at Penn State, knowing full well that

796
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: the entire team is coming back in twenty seventeen, I

797
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: gotta believe that he can. If he can replicate what

798
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: he did second half of the season, there are going

799
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: to be higher purchase for him to sit atop in

800
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. If he's interested, Would he be interested in

801
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of guides guys looking like a bunch of dudes?

802
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: Is that your Jesse Palmer impression? What was that?

803
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 5: Now?

804
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: It's my Steve Dazio. It's very bad. Bob Diaco. Bob Diaco. No,

805
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying morehead at Yukon. If he wants to take Yukon,

806
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: he might as well just take Temple, NC State. I mean,

807
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: a power five job, A power five job will come

808
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: his way if he if he keeps doing what he's doing, Okay,

809
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: because he's got some head coaching experience. You know, he's

810
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: not a guy who's just been a coordinator his entire life.

811
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: He's got some head coaching experience, and albeit at a

812
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: different level of college football, but still he was very successful.

813
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: He's obviously proven that he can be successful in different

814
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: capacity now at Penn State. If he replicates that, I

815
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: think I think he's going to get some better opportunities

816
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: moving forward.

817
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: I would think if there is a Notre Dame, Tom,

818
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: I don't think he would go to Notre Dame. I

819
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: think there was a good chance that he would take

820
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 2: the job of the coach that goes to Notre Dame. Okay,

821
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: if that makes sense, Yeah, because I think they'll look

822
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: relatively in that sort of Middle America type region. If

823
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: it's Michigan State, if it's I don't Arkansas, Repeela met

824
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

825
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: Is what I'm saying, Yeah, great, great, all right, Next question,

826
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: where do you want to go? I want to go

827
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: to email. Actually, this one's not on the sheet, but

828
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: Will wrote in asking about Butch Jones, he says, you're

829
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: two neutral observers Tennessee's twenty sixteen. Is it a temporary

830
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: down year or a sign of bad things to come? Also,

831
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: do you think Butch Jones is calm, slash smart enough

832
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: to handle a Christmas dinner without yelling at a relative

833
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: child for being too loud? Okay that's from Will. Oh.

834
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: Butch Jones definitely clicks on fake news stories death talks

835
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: about it at the holiday table.

836
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: Travis Haney, who's been on the show, I hope he

837
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: found a dentist, by the way, and I understand he's

838
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: going to be at the Piesman too. Is that correct?

839
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: He will be there.

840
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: I'm having pizza with him tonight. All right, Well tell

841
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: myself about his dental work, Tom.

842
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: I said, hello. He wrote an interesting piece today for

843
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven Sports where he talked about the

844
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: inner workings of Butch Jones. Is set up down there

845
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: in Knoxville, and it doesn't sound like it's going great.

846
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: His account is that Butch Jones is fundamentally a good guy,

847
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: but he's got some issues with insecurity. He may not

848
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: be the most comfortable guy in his own skin, and

849
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: therefore it makes it tough to succeed in his current situation,

850
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: to be honest from the outside in. That's kind of

851
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: how it looks. That's kind of how it looks. And

852
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: if you look over the course of Butch Jones' career,

853
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: it is, what ten years of being a head football coach,

854
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: he's only won double digits twice. I am inclined to

855
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: say that come twenty what seventeen, twenty eighteen. I guess

856
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: maybe they're looking for Joe Morehead. Who knows David Randa

857
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: he's available. Yeah, I don't know who they're going to

858
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: start at quarterback next day.

859
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: I know they have a freshman this year that I

860
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: don't know if they're red staring. I don't know his situation.

861
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: Jarrett Guarantano. He's from somewhere up in the northeast, like

862
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: New Jersey or something. He looks to be a spectacular playmaker.

863
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: I know that there's another guy who was a higher

864
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: recruit that has been behind Josh Dobbs. So I suppose

865
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: it depends on what the offense looks like. It would

866
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: not surprise me if either soon or after signing. They

867
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: they cleaned house a little bit on offense. It's hard

868
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: to really gauge what they can and can't do on

869
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: defense with just how many players were injured this year.

870
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: But even with the off the field stuff, I would

871
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: imagine there will be a Penn State like flush of

872
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: sort of what ailed the offense this past year, and

873
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: hopefully they can get lucky with hiring the right guys

874
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: to come in and overhaul everything.

875
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: So what I think I'm hearing is Justin Guarini is

876
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback next year for Tennessee? Is that the name?

877
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to get you this guy's name,

878
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: because I can't listen to you say Justin Guarini all

879
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: season long. Whenever it is that he Jarrett Guarano.

880
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like Justin Guarini, Jarrett Guarantee, I know, yeah,

881
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Justin Guarini. Okay, Ordell, New Jersey. Where do we want

882
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: to go next? Here? We've got one here? Does taiwant PJ.

883
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: Fleck as Notre Dames coach?

884
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 5: Oh?

885
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that big name hasn't gone anywhere? Why

886
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: do you think you didn't go anywhere? That's what I

887
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: find a little concerning because PJ. Fleck was like the

888
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: hottest name, hottest thing since slice bread, and he didn't

889
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: get any of the current job openings. I'm not sure.

890
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: I would assume there's something that maybe popped up when

891
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: teams were doing background on him, because I don't believe Oregon.

892
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: Even interviewed him.

893
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there might be some sort of I don't

894
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: know if there's a red flag. That's just pure speculation

895
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 2: based on nothing. Sure that teams are shying away from him,

896
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: but what he's done in Western Michigan, what he's done

897
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: for the Broncos, absolutely demands attention and sort of suggests

898
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: that he has the capability to not only turn around,

899
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 2: but turn a Power five program into something interesting.

900
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: I like PJ. Fleck brings a lot of youthful exuberance

901
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: to the coaching profession, and he's obviously done great things

902
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: at Western Michigan. Here's the dilemma, though, if you're Notre Dame,

903
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: all right, Notre Dame fans, if you take the temperature

904
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: of the fan base kind of falls into two categories.

905
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: And we're gonna remove age from this equation, Dan, because

906
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: I know that's your favorite joke, but you've got people

907
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: like me who if, in fact, you decide to move

908
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: on from Brian Kelly, you want to try and get

909
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: a proven, established name in there as head football coach.

910
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: You've also got that I don't know, and that's part

911
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: of the reason why I want to keep Brian Kelly.

912
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: But that aside. The other school thought is that you

913
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: want to try and get a young, up and coming coach,

914
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: maybe someone with less of a track record, who at

915
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: least would be excitable and get the fan base, get

916
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: the fan base, you know, pumping, Sure, not too much, that's.

917
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: Fair to sign the Notre Dame fan base. Got to

918
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 2: catch your breath, maybe take a seat real quick before

919
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: you get too pumped. Yeah, I don't know who that

920
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: is is D'Antonio.

921
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: I think they would go after D'Antonio. I don't know

922
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: if he'd take that job. Right. The question for the

923
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: people of my mindset would be who else are you

924
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: going to go get? People are still under the illusions

925
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: that Bob Stoops is coming to Notre Dame. Bob Stoops

926
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: isn't coming to note DA. People are still under the

927
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: illusion even still, that John Gruden might be interested not

928
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: just in Notre Dame, but in any job. John Gruden

929
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: owns land in all fifty states. You should know that

930
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: by now. Surely I don't know who those proven commodities

931
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: are that want to come to Notre Dame and leave

932
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: their current position. I'm not sure there are a whole

933
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: lot of them out there. For me, the answer is

934
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: no on PJ. Fleck. I want a guy with more

935
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: of a track record if you're going to get rid

936
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: of Brian Kelly, who, again, you might not like him,

937
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: but in a football sense, outside of this year, he's

938
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: still been pretty good. Notre Dame's in a better spot

939
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: now than it was under the previous guy. He has

940
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: improved the program. I want a guy who I can

941
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: feel confident in day one one can come in, can

942
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: work with all the recruits that Brian Kelly and his

943
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: team is brought in, and you can win immediately.

944
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 2: Follow up eight games into the NFL season next year,

945
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 2: chip Kelly's fired.

946
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: So Chip Kelly's.

947
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 2: Able to interview if Notre Dame gets rid of Brian

948
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: Kelly at the end of the season, because his big

949
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: thing is he doesn't want to talk to teams while

950
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: he's still coaching and still an active head coach, still

951
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: coaching a team. Sure would you take chip Kelly's gimmick

952
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: offense in South Bend?

953
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: I would love chip Kelly's gimmick offense in South Bend.

954
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: I don't think chip Kelly would want to take his

955
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: talents to South Bend.

956
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: He's from the northeast. Notre Dame is a big deal.

957
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is a big deal.

958
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: But you got to believe there are like five schools

959
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: that would fire their coaches instantly if they knew they

960
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: could get chip Kelly on staff.

961
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: Well, who are the big schools that would come out

962
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 2: next year? UCLA?

963
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: UCLA would move from Jim Moore if they could get

964
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. A and M would consider it.

965
00:45:54,719 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: Auburn Auburn, Maybe Fauburn comes open. But beyond that, l

966
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: USU in Texas and USC and Florida, I mean maybe

967
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: Florida if Macawayne decides to go somewhere else. I don't

968
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: think they'd get rid of them after next year.

969
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: But I just got to believe that there are better

970
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: gigs out there for chip Kelly if he wants one.

971
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: But the the A list gigs, I don't know how

972
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: many are going to be open. That's the most thing

973
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: I don't know and I don't think UCLA is a list,

974
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: but it's it'd be intriguing.

975
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly at Arkansas would be interesting.

976
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: Disagree. I would not be thrilled with that.

977
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: All right, we got time for one more question.

978
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: Okay, we're having a celebratory situation Friday night at the

979
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: Pisman Trophy ceremony. People are dressing up square toad dress

980
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: shoes never okay or sometimes okay.

981
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: Never. I'm not a square toed kind of ever never ever, ever. Yeah,

982
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: I don't like the way it looks you look like geppetto. Yeah,

983
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't in that. I don't like that. I don't

984
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: even own a pair. Do you own a pair of

985
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: square toed shoes? Yeah? No, and I never have.

986
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, go By, I think Oxford's be a nice clean look,

987
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be expensive.

988
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: Go buy some. I would like to hear from like

989
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: a lawyer or somebody who does the dress up thing

990
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more than I do, when the appropriate

991
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: time is or from a fashion does not exists. What

992
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: is the rationale for square toed shoes? It's just not

993
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: my thing? All right, all right, we're going to get

994
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: to some army Navy talk here. Briefly, but we got

995
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: to pay some more bills. Let's talk about Harry's dan Oh.

996
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: I will be shaving with Harry's before coming up to

997
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: the Pieman. I want to look nice and smooth for

998
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: not only the camera if there are cameras there, for

999
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: not only the miss Is she will be there, but

1000
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: also for everyone, for the esteemed pisman trust. I want

1001
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: to I want to look my best, and I will

1002
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: be using Harry's razors in order to do that. I

1003
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: would urge everyone out there who has yet to complete

1004
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: their holiday shopping think maybe about this Harry's offer that

1005
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: we're going to present before you today, because sometimes shopping

1006
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: for anyone can be impossible, especially a guy who has everything,

1007
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: Like people don't know what to get me because I

1008
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: just buy it for myself and they say, well, what

1009
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: do you want for Christmas? And I don't want anything

1010
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: for Christmas. I just I'm good. I get everything. Harry's

1011
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: could be a good gift for somebody like that. Sometimes

1012
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: you don't consider the small essentials that you need to

1013
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: look good to feel good. We've got a deal right now.

1014
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: Go to Harry's dot com. Right now you can get

1015
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: a limited addition holiday shave set while supplies last, don't forget.

1016
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: Enter the offer code SOLID at checkout and get five

1017
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: dollars off. This is while supplies last. The ground shipping

1018
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: ends on December sixteenth, so you got to act now.

1019
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: But if you go to Harry's dot com and use

1020
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: the code solid, you can get five bucks off. It's

1021
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: a good deal. It's a good deal, Dan, if you

1022
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: haven't shaved with Harry's before, They've got German engineered five

1023
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: blade cartridges that provide a close, comfortable shave. They've got

1024
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: foaming shave gel, which I love. It smells amazing. Beautifully designed.

1025
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: Gift box goes for what thirty bucks on Harry's dot com.

1026
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: They also have handles and set and all sorts of

1027
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: stuff that just starts at ten bucks. If you haven't

1028
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: tried Harry's yet, you will like it. I've used it

1029
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: for well over a year now, and it really truly

1030
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: is the perfect gift for someone on your holiday shopping

1031
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: list who maybe you just don't know what to get him.

1032
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: So go right now to Harrys dot com. The code

1033
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,160
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1034
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: all right, Dan, We are pleased to welcome in now.

1035
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: He's sort of the man behind the curtain to some

1036
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: degree because he helps me ever so much.

1037
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: He's like he's he's our Nick Saban's secret Alabama consultants.

1038
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: Exactly could you do the show without Taylor helps us

1039
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: with all things newsletter of intent. He listens to all

1040
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: of your reverbs, all of the reverbs on a Sunday

1041
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: morning and mixes them up into a three and a

1042
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: half four four and a half five minutes segment. He

1043
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: also runs his own show, The zard Cast, which you

1044
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: can find now if you're a Washington Wizards fan, also

1045
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: Talking Terps where he talks about all things Maryland. So

1046
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: he's a podcast aficionado if you will. And this coming

1047
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: weekend he is going on Our Behalf. We will be

1048
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: at the Pisman ceremonies, will be unable to attend, but

1049
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: he is going on Our Behalf. The kind folks at

1050
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: the Army Navy game have invited the Solid Verbal to

1051
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: participate and mister Taylor, you will be there, sir. How

1052
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: are you?

1053
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 7: I'm doing well, guys, thanks for having me on. Very

1054
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 7: excited for this weekend.

1055
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what's the game plan?

1056
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 7: So I'm going to Silvan, DC, going to take the

1057
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 7: Old Mark train up to Baltimore. They got to set

1058
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 7: up in a hotel in the Inner Harbor, and I

1059
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 7: was a little bit skeptical about what kind of you know,

1060
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 7: other media organization's presence would be there the day before

1061
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 7: the game. But because game days in town, you will

1062
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 7: have all the game day guys, all the CBS folks

1063
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 7: will be mingling among other people. So I'll do some

1064
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 7: interviews on Friday, you know, in the media road situation thing.

1065
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 7: I'll have the snapchat going all weekend, and then Saturday

1066
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 7: I will do man on the street interviews. I'll be

1067
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 7: you know, mingling at tailgates and such, and then I'll

1068
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 7: watch the game from the press box and we'll cut

1069
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 7: it up into something pleasing to your ears.

1070
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: So sort of like a live Reverbs if you will.

1071
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, live Reverbs with some celebrity guest appearances.

1072
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: Yes, it should be good times.

1073
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 7: I probably need to watch some of Dan's old videos

1074
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 7: to see how to do that.

1075
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: Do you have any tips? That is that is bad advice? Yeah,

1076
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: just go up to people and assume they want to

1077
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: talk to you. That's always just the easiest thing to do.

1078
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: Do you have a preference the United States Army of

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Speaker 2: the United States Navy going in.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a bias? Oh, I'm a big Naval

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Speaker 1: Academy guy.

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Speaker 7: I grew up in Annapolis and I've a bunch of

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00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 7: friends who went to the academy. I'm gonna be hanging

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Speaker 7: out with one of my buddies whose entire family went

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00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 7: to the academy going back generations. So I'm definitely a

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00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 7: mid shipman kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: Tied to you, I'm a Navy guy. I myself, I'm

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00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: a Navy guy.

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Speaker 2: And not for any reason that has to do with

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00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 2: the football team or really anything that the United States

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Speaker 2: Navy has or has not done. It is because the

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00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 2: Navy is the arm of the armed forces that has

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00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 2: aircraft carriers. They land planes on boats and that is dope.

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00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: But the air Force has the planes, but in the

1095
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: Navy has planes too. Well, that's true.

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00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: They have you ever seen the blue angels before? I

1097
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: have seen the blue Angels. That was a stupid comment.

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00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: I apologize the Navy. I really do apologize. I do

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00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: like the aircraft carrier side of this thing here. Now,

1100
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: are they gonna have the aircraft carriers on the helmets again?

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00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Because there's a whole uniform thing. There's like a second

1102
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: game within the game, here, Armies got the coolest uniforms

1103
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: I think I've ever seen, and Navies doing their own thing.

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00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: Aren't they doing a thing?

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00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: They have stars and it's like the number of stars

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00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: is the consecutive wins.

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00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: Isn't that a thing? Something like that?

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00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 7: It's definitely like an arms race type thing, especially with

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00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 7: Navy being under armored school and being in Baltimore. I

1110
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 7: don't remember quite what the Navy ones look like. The

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00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 7: Army ones are really sweet, though.

1112
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Army ones are like skull and crossbones, almost

1113
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: like at nat Black. Yeah, that's cool.

1114
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: Taylor, without looking, without cheating, spelled Ken new Matalolo's last name.

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00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, k e n That's okay, he got

1116
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: the first name. That's good, Ty, give it a shot,

1117
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: sounded out for me one more time.

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00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: Neo Matalolo. I'll use it in a sentence. Ken New

1119
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: Montalolo ran out of juice and went to the store

1120
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 2: for the New Mantalolo family to consume more juice.

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00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I would say, all right, so Kate Ian,

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00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: as Taylor pointed out, n I it's a you m

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00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: a t l O l O new Mataloo. Oh it's

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00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: a a an a instead of an eesah. Thank you

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00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: for using that in a sense though, Oh of course

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00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: I assume it helped you tremendously. All Right, well, Taylor,

1127
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: we appreciate you going on our behalf. Please say hello

1128
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: to everyone for us. There are gonna be a ton

1129
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: of people there. Obviously, Army Navy is a big deal,

1130
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: not just in a football sense, but very symbolic in

1131
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: nature as well. We look forward to your segment. I

1132
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: think what's our plan. We're going to do this like

1133
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: next Wednesday. We'll give you a little bit of a

1134
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: chance to like to steal all the commentary down into

1135
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: like an eight ten minute type clip. Right right, Yeah,

1136
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: that's the plan right now, excellent Wednesday.

1137
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 7: Quick question for you guys, if you don't mind I

1138
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 7: you know, of course I'm an avid listener. I listened

1139
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 7: to all the shows. One of your guys. Funny little

1140
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 7: bits that you that you do is Dan You kind

1141
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 7: of poke Tie about how he pronounces things. We did

1142
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 7: it tonight, yeah, ye us East Coasters, you know we

1143
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 7: have funny accents. You West Coast people are like in

1144
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 7: grogynists and don't have accents. But you chastised him for

1145
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 7: saying the word yoki wrong. Did it on this show

1146
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 7: as well?

1147
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: Oh?

1148
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 7: Okay, I guess I'm I hope I'm not repeating all

1149
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 7: this then, did you guys come to get to the

1150
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 7: bottom of it, like who was saying it correctly and

1151
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 7: who was not? Because I think I I'm with Tie

1152
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 7: on this one, you know, being the resident Italian on

1153
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 7: the show.

1154
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: Wait, so you you go full e n dash, y

1155
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: ok I and yoki. I think I don't quite say

1156
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: it like that. I say in yoki. Yeah, that's how

1157
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: I say it Nyoki.

1158
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 7: I think Tye is like has the correct like Italian

1159
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 7: pronunciation of it, but we have like the americanized version

1160
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 7: going on.

1161
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: We're in America. Yeah.

1162
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: So I am on a video Mario Batali how to

1163
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 2: make homemade This word dough All right on YouTube, go ahead,

1164
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: let's hear it.

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00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 6: I'm Mario Batalian. This is how to Tuesday mean. Matt Abdou,

1166
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 6: the chef de cuisine at Del Post, He's going to

1167
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 6: show you how to make yok dough.

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00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: Yoki yuk yuki. He just said a why in the beginning,

1169
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: he didn't even say a g n he's a yulki. No, no,

1170
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: he had he had the g I I need more

1171
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: audio evidence. That's not enough for me.

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00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 6: Me Matt Abdu, the chef de cuisine at Del Posto,

1173
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 6: He's going to show you how to make yulk though.

1174
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nyuki, I don't know. I don't know if that's confirmed. Nyuki,

1175
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Are you calling Mario Buttalia a liar?

1176
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 5: I am?

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00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: I feel like you would know, ty whatever. All right, Taylor,

1178
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you for what you got going on

1179
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: this weekend on our behalf. We appreciate you putting your

1180
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: busy life on hold to participate in in our nonsense.

1181
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: And thank you again for all you've done this year.

1182
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 7: Thanks for sending me up there. It'll be a good time.

1183
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 7: And you know I always love listening to reverbs, love

1184
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 7: writing up the newsletter. It's solid verbal number one verballer

1185
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 7: over here. I'll try and take it out. I know

1186
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 7: I've got competition based on the voicemails, but I'll than

1187
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 7: that for the time being.

1188
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: All Right, Dan, you got anything else? No, that's it.

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00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: That's everything I've got on that note, Boys and girls,

1190
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: for that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrandt,

1191
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: and for our good friend Taylor down there in the

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00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: good old nations and Nicole yes, thank you again for

1193
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: tuning into the verbal. We'll catch you all on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, stay solid,