Speaker 1: Welcome the NFL Daily presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook, where
Speaker 1: we're always moving the sticks beyond lucky today to be
Speaker 1: joining the Chris Wesley Podcast studio by my friend Patrick
Speaker 1: Claybonn and somewhere in sunny San Diego, Daniel Jeremiah.
Speaker 2: Thanks Daniel for joining us.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's nice to be with you, guys. It is
Speaker 3: very sunny, by the way. I don't know how it
Speaker 3: is up their way up north in Los Angeles, but
Speaker 3: it is a hot one today.
Speaker 1: It is beautiful. It's hot here too, you know. Look
Speaker 1: it's hot in the studio whenever Patrick's here. He's coming
Speaker 1: up straight from Studio five where he's doing Fantasy Live.
Speaker 1: He's going to be with us every single Wednesday. Daniel not,
Speaker 1: but hey, it's week one. We wanted to go big
Speaker 1: on this show, and we were able to book Daniel
Speaker 1: for this week for half the show, too big time
Speaker 1: to stay for the whole show.
Speaker 2: But we think we got him and he's feeling he's
Speaker 2: feeling good.
Speaker 1: He actually looks like he styled his hair a little differently,
Speaker 1: so it's the first time he's changed his haircut since
Speaker 1: middle school.
Speaker 3: No, there's no product, there's no product whatsoever. I don't
Speaker 3: have enough hair to warrant product. So this is just
Speaker 3: this is what we get here. But you know this
Speaker 3: is like, this is like me showing up at the
Speaker 3: SATs taking the English and leaving before math starts. That's
Speaker 3: that's basically what our setup is.
Speaker 4: You could just app a cadaba the math section like
Speaker 4: I pull it out, you know, just mirrors happened.
Speaker 1: I should I should have done that. The English was strong,
Speaker 1: Math not not as strong. But we're going to be
Speaker 1: doing math today. We're going to be uh, you know,
Speaker 1: going over all the games. We're going to be doing
Speaker 1: it by order of point spread.
Speaker 2: Patrick.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're going to pick some survivor picks. We're
Speaker 1: going to give analysis. Hopefully we'll make you laugh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be all of the fun things.
Speaker 4: And you know, just so we know how to prioritize things,
Speaker 4: We're going to start with the spreads that are a
Speaker 4: little bit tighter, uh, and work our way towards the
Speaker 4: big ones, the ones that that maybe you know, you
Speaker 4: kind of get that and it's like, well that's too
Speaker 4: much for mable. But we'll trying to put context on
Speaker 4: all of them. And let's just go ahead and get started,
Speaker 4: because you guys, you already hit the opener. We you
Speaker 4: know Jackson Mahomes not not Patrick's brother. You know the
Speaker 4: matchup with the two guys one four last six MVPs.
Speaker 4: Let's go to Su Paulo Brazil game in Peacock on
Speaker 4: Peacock at Arena Corinthians. It's the Green Bay Packers and
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles, a couple of teams that have had
Speaker 4: some overhauls changing up defenses.
Speaker 1: Greg your thoughts, Yeah, I want to know just because
Speaker 1: it was the last time we saw him with this
Speaker 1: Eagles team. Like does Nick Sirianni have answers and does
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore have answers to the blitz? And you think
Speaker 1: about what Jeff Hafley did at Boston College, and DJ,
Speaker 1: you're the perfect person to tell me about it, because frankly,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I read it's a lot of man coverage.
Speaker 1: He's going to get creative. But you would think DJ
Speaker 1: that they're gonna make Jalen Hurts and Sirianni and Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore show that they can answer the questions that they
Speaker 1: really couldn't at the end of last year where they
Speaker 1: just couldn't deal with pressure as a quarterback, as a system,
Speaker 1: as an offensive line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look athletes' zom that's what he's gonna do.
Speaker 3: He's going to try and go nose and nose and
Speaker 3: challenge these guys on the perimeter. But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that they have the horses
Speaker 3: to go after these wide outs for the Eagles. If
Speaker 3: they do, I think you'll see a little bit more
Speaker 3: of a vertical passing game from Kellen Moore than maybe
Speaker 3: we saw with him with the Chargers. If they're going
Speaker 3: to force him do that, he's going to have to
Speaker 3: do that, and I think they can win those one
Speaker 3: on one matchups. So to me that if I'm looking
Speaker 3: at this game, I'm more fascinated to see what it
Speaker 3: looks like on the other side of it, just to see.
Speaker 3: Can you know, we talk about offensive line and pressures.
Speaker 3: I think this Eagles defensive line is going to be
Speaker 3: outstanding once again, and I think you're going to see
Speaker 3: these young DT's. Everything that I've heard and talking to
Speaker 3: folks out there is like this is the next step
Speaker 3: year for those guys, and that is a nightmare for
Speaker 3: an offense with the speed they have off the edges.
Speaker 3: If they get those two young DT's rolling those Georgia
Speaker 3: Bulldogs going, that takes this defense to another level.
Speaker 4: With Vic Fangio, a team that's gotten to the quarterback
Speaker 4: pretty quickly the past few years. Of course, a big
Speaker 4: time departure. They go ahead make the trade with the
Speaker 4: Jets to kind of alleviate that on both ends the
Speaker 4: incomes of Jet. Out goes a Jet who we don't
Speaker 4: know it's gonna play for the Jets. But you've got the.
Speaker 3: Burd you're saying when he's a Jet, he's not a
Speaker 3: Jets threw and through.
Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying? Essentially all things not Jets
Speaker 4: in this particular exchange with the Eagles and the Jets.
Speaker 4: But the Bird's favorited by two and a half. Jeff
Speaker 4: Hafley and Xavier McKinney come in big time additions. Halfley
Speaker 4: working a whole lot with the secondary. So I was
Speaker 4: able to be at Packers camp talk to Xavier McKinney. Yeah, thanks,
Speaker 4: You know, I occasionally leave this and mckinn like I
Speaker 4: made the saban allegate, like the the the idea, like
Speaker 4: two coaches, both head coaches. I would like to work
Speaker 4: with the secondary, and X didn't push back on that
Speaker 4: at all, and so that makes me hot. But it's
Speaker 4: just tough as tough, as DJ said, to kind of
Speaker 4: think about all the ability that the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Have on all right, they are just so talented if
Speaker 1: you just stack up all their players, and yet, like
Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions about this team on defense,
Speaker 1: especially DJ, like Devin White doesn't make this trip. Something
Speaker 1: little strange going on there. There's some reporting in Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Jeff McLean in the Philadelphia Choir that he wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: going to start. He hadn't been listed with an injury before.
Speaker 1: So that's just a situation to watch. It's going to
Speaker 1: be Nikobe Dean, It's going to be the former Saint
Speaker 1: Zach Bond. That's maybe an area of the field that
Speaker 1: you would think Matt Lafleur with all those receivers that
Speaker 1: they can flood and the tight ends. I got Luke
Speaker 1: Musgrave as my backup as my backup on my fantasy team,
Speaker 1: just a backup at the guy on the bench, and
Speaker 1: then you have wayscober Dejene gonna get in the mix.
Speaker 1: Quinion Mitchell was in the slot but can also play
Speaker 1: on the outside, and just everything is so different here
Speaker 1: first week, Like I favor the Packers offense, I kind
Speaker 1: of fake favor the offenses on both sides of the
Speaker 1: ball and figure, this is going to be a score fest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be fun, I would say. On the
Speaker 3: linebacker front, I feel uh somewhat relieved because I was
Speaker 3: in the Kobe Dean sponsor come into the draft process,
Speaker 3: so elicited the comparison. I believe I hit him with
Speaker 3: the little Jonathan Vilma as an undersized like nerve center
Speaker 3: player who has just got unbelievable instincts and as a
Speaker 3: communicator a leader like I obviously wish he was a
Speaker 3: little bit bigger, maybe a little faster, but that's the
Speaker 3: type of player I thought he could be, And by
Speaker 3: all accounts, he had a great camp and the lights
Speaker 3: come on there. So I'm hopeful that that linebacker group
Speaker 3: with Greg you're a little bit concerned about him, I'm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy bugaboo that like the egos are great at
Speaker 1: doing a lot of things.
Speaker 3: But they don't take linebackers early.
Speaker 1: Right, But they also haven't figured out how to get
Speaker 1: productive play. And then when they had some productive play,
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with Kaisier. White was solid
Speaker 1: at a tough moment in the in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They had good line Becker play last year and then
Speaker 1: they just let him go and it was it was trouble.
Speaker 4: Well. How appropriate because the comp for the DJ had
Speaker 4: Jonathan vilma is on the call for our next game.
Speaker 4: All right, as the Giants look at that, Giants getting
Speaker 4: a point and a half going up against your guy, Greg,
Speaker 4: Sam Donald, It's finally beginning in the Minnesota Vikings. Greg,
Speaker 4: not my guy.
Speaker 2: I'm sick of that.
Speaker 1: I am well because it's a rare case where so
Speaker 1: many smart people have been bamboozled for a year after
Speaker 1: year and they're they're holding on to this one take
Speaker 1: that they have.
Speaker 2: And it's not just you, Daniel. You know how much
Speaker 2: I respect you.
Speaker 1: I respect Nate Ticeon, respect me, the Cimes, I respect
Speaker 1: all the people who love this guy.
Speaker 2: And yeah, like he's got to be fine.
Speaker 1: It's a good situation and I think this is a
Speaker 1: nice matchup for him, but it's against a pretty good
Speaker 1: defensive line.
Speaker 2: So can you protect Sam Donald?
Speaker 1: Is always the question because if you can these Giants
Speaker 1: cornerbacks and I like the Adori Jackson signing because they
Speaker 1: needed help help. But come on, this matchup, Jordan Addison
Speaker 1: is going to be out there, and there's just so yeah,
Speaker 1: the best wide receiver duo maybe in the entire NFL.
Speaker 2: I like Jalen Naylor. I think they're going to be fine.
Speaker 1: They're going to be able to protect Arnold and they'll
Speaker 1: be able to move the ball against the Giants.
Speaker 3: So there's a difference, right. I think blindly optimistic is
Speaker 3: the way that Greg is describing this thing, Patrick, where
Speaker 3: I think cautiously optimistic is a more accurate portrayal of
Speaker 3: those of us who really liked Sam and have given
Speaker 3: into the fact that he's not going to be what
Speaker 3: we hoped he was going to be, but yet holding
Speaker 3: on very strongly to the belief that with everything else
Speaker 3: around him, that he can plug and play and be enough.
Speaker 3: And that's where I am with Sam. So I'm hoping.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping for him, And look, I don't know you
Speaker 3: could have a better situation in terms of the offensive line.
Speaker 3: I think is really good. Deris how by the way,
Speaker 3: I don't know that everybody understands just how freaking good
Speaker 3: that dude is. But they're really good upfront, with the
Speaker 3: additions in the backfield, with Aaron Jones, go on, with
Speaker 3: the bevy of receivers and tight ends that they have.
Speaker 3: It's all there for him. I don't see. It's hard
Speaker 3: for me to just envision it not being somewhat successful.
Speaker 3: So I'm optimistic there. Then you go over to the
Speaker 3: Giants side of things. Here's a question for you, Patrick,
Speaker 3: I'll go to you on this month the Giants. If
Speaker 3: the Giants are going to be even a five hundred team,
Speaker 3: can they be a five hundred team if the defense
Speaker 3: isn't a top five defense in the REFL.
Speaker 4: No, unless Malik Neighbors goes absolutely bananas, and I drafted him,
Speaker 4: by the way, and you should have my fantasy team,
Speaker 4: because I think the volume is going to go. That's
Speaker 4: because even with Saquon right, the Giants average three point
Speaker 4: seven expected yards per carry last year is the second
Speaker 4: lowest in the entire league. And I'm looking at this
Speaker 4: this overall number, I said, the Giants getting a point
Speaker 4: and a half overall numbers forty one, and I'm looking
Speaker 4: at both of these. Do you think we get there?
Speaker 1: Greg?
Speaker 2: I think you know.
Speaker 1: If you check out game debut on NFL Network with
Speaker 1: Patrick and I think, yeah, I will be going less
Speaker 1: on this game when we do the more or Less
Speaker 1: segment because these lines are really good, Like the Giants
Speaker 1: defensive line after adding Burns, they were already good when
Speaker 1: you had two difference makers. I think Kevon Thibodeau got
Speaker 1: better last year and is going to continue to get better.
Speaker 1: And with Dexter Lawrence, the Vikings have a strong line
Speaker 1: on the interior, maybe not as strong as at the
Speaker 1: tackle position. And then on the flip side. You know,
Speaker 1: when I look for surprise teams, I do look for
Speaker 1: like all right, who's got a pretty good O line
Speaker 1: D line combo. Those teams tend to be surprise teams,
Speaker 1: and the Giants feel better whether they're right or they're wrong,
Speaker 1: with the moves that they made this offseason. They have
Speaker 1: never been as confident, their fans, their coaches, everything in
Speaker 1: their offensive line. We are only used to seeing Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones behind a bottom five offensive line, and on paper,
Speaker 1: they might be average, and if they're average, they'll be
Speaker 1: a respectable offense this year. But this is a big test,
Speaker 1: going against Brian Flores and everything that he's gonna throw at.
Speaker 3: I also think it's going to be when you have
Speaker 3: Dable in a crucial year for him, it's going to
Speaker 3: be hard for him not to take that carrot that's
Speaker 3: dangling in front of him. In terms of using Daniel Jones,
Speaker 3: maybe a little too much in the running, I think
Speaker 3: that's going to be. I mean, this is all hands
Speaker 3: on deck. We need to win football games, and it's
Speaker 3: hard for me, just personnel wise, to see them putting
Speaker 3: up points. Patrick if Daniel Jones running the football isn't
Speaker 3: a big part of what they're doing.
Speaker 4: Which puts a lot on dimes. I know he's added
Speaker 4: the beard up. We're coming off a full cruise shit repair.
Speaker 2: I'm I think he'll be better this year.
Speaker 1: I don't think Daniel believes in that he was given
Speaker 1: some Drew Locke pop I noticed on to Move the
Speaker 1: Sticks podcast.
Speaker 3: I said, I said that, I think he I thought
Speaker 3: Drew lock would have a chance to win. I think
Speaker 3: I said that right, So I thought he would have
Speaker 3: a chance to win the job, which is a literally
Speaker 3: a board shorts and flip flops podcast summer take, which.
Speaker 2: I don't think. No, no, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I just didn't think I thought it was pretty harmless
Speaker 3: like this is just an opinion of the way that
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is played, and I think, you know, you
Speaker 3: look at Drew Lock coming in, like is this the
Speaker 3: craziest thing in the world to think that Drew Lock
Speaker 3: could eventually end up getting snaps here? And then I
Speaker 3: got hit with the barrage of like national media like hey,
Speaker 3: can you come on this show? And I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: there must be nothing going on right now. If this
Speaker 3: is making this kind of waves.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a little credit for that because
Speaker 1: I think I was listening the move the sticks and
Speaker 1: I put a tweet out yeah, quoting yes, and honestly
Speaker 1: it got a lot of pops, So thank you.
Speaker 2: DJ.
Speaker 1: I did want to just quickly mention before we move
Speaker 1: on from this game is a big game for both teams.
Speaker 1: Sneaky bick I like the Vikings in this game. The
Speaker 1: Giants start with the Vikings and then at Washington. Sometimes
Speaker 1: the schedule maker gives you a chance to restart start
Speaker 1: the season. Well, that's that's a winnable stretch here to
Speaker 1: start for the Giants. The Vikings after this game have
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, Texans, Packers, Jets, Lions, Rams, Colts in
Speaker 1: a row that is brutal, So to me, they kind
Speaker 1: of got to win this game to get a little cushion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good luck out there. So it's looking for a quarterback.
Speaker 4: Here's a quarterback. It's going to be on the call.
Speaker 4: Tom Brady on the call, Kevin Burkhart, Aaron Andrews, and
Speaker 4: Tom Rinaldi as the Dallas Cowboys are at the Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 4: who were given up two and a half points the
Speaker 4: overall number forty and a half DJ. This is a
Speaker 4: Browns defense that was stout Miles Garrett back in healthy.
Speaker 4: How do you view this matchup?
Speaker 3: I'm curious to see how Jim Schwartz is going to
Speaker 3: do it because you know, traditionally he likes to just
Speaker 3: let the four guys go. And then in the playoff
Speaker 3: game last year, Houston right, and it did not go
Speaker 3: well in the back end. They got really really exposed.
Speaker 3: They were dinged up, they were injured on the back end.
Speaker 3: But I think personally, I think they can get home
Speaker 3: against this Dallas Cowboys offensive line with four. If they
Speaker 3: can do that, it's going to be a long day
Speaker 3: for the Cowboys, especially because I'm still just trying to
Speaker 3: figure out where the rest of these targets are going
Speaker 3: to get funneled outside of CD, which is another reason
Speaker 3: why that holdout was so bizarre to me, because I'm like, literally,
Speaker 3: he holds all the cards. He might be, you know,
Speaker 3: he might be the most they might be the most
Speaker 3: individually wide receiver dependent offense in the entire league. So
Speaker 3: I don't know where the rest of that's going to
Speaker 3: emerge from. When I was out there at camp, I had.
Speaker 3: I had my doubts and my concerns. So if Cleveland
Speaker 3: can get home with four and then they can dedicate
Speaker 3: coverage to the guy you're looking at in the screen
Speaker 3: right here in ceedee Lamb, I don't I don't feel
Speaker 3: great about the Cowboys offense in this game.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I went back and forth because these are two teams.
Speaker 1: I don't really believe in either of them, at least
Speaker 1: relative to their expectations over the course of the season.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Week one and you're throwing a rookie left
Speaker 1: tackle Tyler Guyton against Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2: How's that for?
Speaker 1: Like a first game and a rookie center having to
Speaker 1: deal with the calls against It's just it's a lot
Speaker 1: to ask, they would tell you, Jake ferguson DJ and
Speaker 1: Jalen got that's where the ball's going, which, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's not deep. And this is one of those games,
Speaker 1: Patrick's where it's like it just feels like a very
Speaker 1: much an extended preseason game. That's what September is like
Speaker 1: for a lot of teams, but especially these teams. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Jack Conklin's playing this game. You know
Speaker 1: as we tape this that he wasn't seen really at practice,
Speaker 1: but Jedrick Wills might be returning. Gregory Newsome, Dalvin Tomlinson,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, and Jerry Judy were out of practice. Barely
Speaker 1: any of these guys practiced at all in August, so
Speaker 1: they're just ramping up and then we have CDs coming
Speaker 1: in after just you know, barely playing. We have these
Speaker 1: rookies for the Cowboys, including at cornerback, like that's kind
Speaker 1: of slipped under the raver that radar that it's going
Speaker 1: to be Kaylan Carson who's stepping in as a starting
Speaker 1: go So all these rookies who have never played like
Speaker 1: at an NFL level, Mike Zimmer back in the league
Speaker 1: for so it just feels like it's a feeling out game.
Speaker 1: That will probably overreact to one way or another.
Speaker 4: Well it's the Dallas Cowboys, so's it's a guaranteed overreaction regardless.
Speaker 4: But I think we can't just assume that this Cowboys
Speaker 4: defense is going to have a defender have a generational
Speaker 4: performance in the secondary year after year, especially now that
Speaker 4: the Dan Quinn's gone, but TENK Lawrence Michael Parson's still there.
Speaker 4: The talent is still there in so many spots. And
Speaker 4: my main concern is we still haven't seen barring like
Speaker 4: late against the Ravens last year, like a Deshaun Watson
Speaker 4: led Brown's offense score that many points.
Speaker 1: Like asking another player who barely who didn't practice fully
Speaker 1: during training camp, Well.
Speaker 4: It's like what am I going to believe in? More
Speaker 4: like Dak with a CD and Brandon Cooks and whatever
Speaker 4: else is left, or an offense that features a god
Speaker 4: that hasn't been good in three years, it's a starting quarterback.
Speaker 4: I'm leaning towards Dak.
Speaker 3: So this this feels like listening to the three of
Speaker 3: us here that we are headed towards a like thirteen
Speaker 3: to ten Tom Brady complaining about quarterback play for four
Speaker 3: quarters debut, is that that's what we're headed towards.
Speaker 1: That would be fun. I'm already annoyed that Nick Shook
Speaker 1: has this game. You know, we're going to be recapping
Speaker 1: the games on Sunday, Patrick, myself, Nick Shook, and we're
Speaker 1: dividing up the games, and he's the Browns guy, so
Speaker 1: he just claims the first Brady game, which I'm annoyed.
Speaker 2: I might have to rewatch it at some point.
Speaker 1: Just yes, because I I will not take guilty pleasure
Speaker 1: of him, you know, going after Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 2: If that's what happens.
Speaker 1: If he's a little critical of Deshaun Watts, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I think your own Ford could have a nice season though.
Speaker 4: Either way, we will have plenty of time to appreciate
Speaker 4: your boy in the booth. Congratulations to it to an
Speaker 4: underdog story, Tom Brady continuing to.
Speaker 3: Over seventy five. By the way, I looked that up
Speaker 3: the ind the day. I'm like, what was that number again?
Speaker 3: Ten for three seventy five?
Speaker 2: Oh his contract?
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, it's nice to work if you get it.
Speaker 4: It's time for the Game of the Week presented by
Speaker 4: Draft Kings Sportsbook. Love Division games in Week one and
Speaker 4: do we have a doozy in the AFC South, the
Speaker 4: Houston Texans at the Indianapolis Colts and over under a
Speaker 4: forty eight and a half the Colts at home, giving
Speaker 4: up three points.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't really so the reigning rookie.
Speaker 4: Of the Year. We saw these teams with Anthony richardson
Speaker 4: play week two last year he left with a concussion.
Speaker 4: Both quarterbacks played well.
Speaker 3: C J.
Speaker 4: Stroud threw for three eighty four in a losscript.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just am so excited to see CG. Stroud
Speaker 1: year two? Like, are we getting too excited? I don't
Speaker 1: think so, because I just feel like he's so next
Speaker 1: level in terms of how he sees the game and
Speaker 1: that actually there's still a lot of improvement there from
Speaker 1: where he can be as a rookie and for a
Speaker 1: first week matchup, this provides challenges in terms of his
Speaker 1: offensive line and how good this Colts front could be
Speaker 1: because I think just as a front four after adding
Speaker 1: a Layatu Latu, they could be there with any one
Speaker 1: in the league. But the reputation DJ of Gus Bradley
Speaker 1: and you can tell me if I'm wrong, but maybe
Speaker 1: not the toughest defense to figure out. And do they
Speaker 1: have the bodies because here are some players starting in
Speaker 1: their secondary, Juju Brents, Jalen Jones, probably Nick Cross at safety,
Speaker 1: and you just think about going up against this trio
Speaker 1: of receivers and Dalton Schultz and what they can do.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a lot to ask of the secondary
Speaker 1: in a week one matchup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a sound defense. The only thing is there's
Speaker 3: ways where you can attack some linebackers and coverage and
Speaker 3: a lot of ways you'll see that done is with
Speaker 3: the old three by one formation and the number three
Speaker 3: receiver on the three side, those deep overs. A lot
Speaker 3: of times that middle linebacker has to try and carry
Speaker 3: him all the way across the field. It's why you know,
Speaker 3: when Coach was with the Chargers, we would see Tyreek
Speaker 3: Hill with the Chiefs in that spot and they'd hit
Speaker 3: that over route against Denzel Paraman a couple of times.
Speaker 3: And you've seen that at different stops along the way.
Speaker 3: There's just there's little areas where you could try and
Speaker 3: attack it. But they traditionally are a really really good
Speaker 3: tackling team and they play really really hard and I
Speaker 3: think they've, like Chris Ballard has been on a mission
Speaker 3: to accumulate as many like athletic freaks as possible, Like
Speaker 3: we do the thing of the combine every year we
Speaker 3: talk about athleticism scores and they all go to the
Speaker 3: Colts like he takes all of them. So they are
Speaker 3: very very fast team. I think you'll see that, especially
Speaker 3: on the surface in that division that they play makes
Speaker 3: it even look faster. But I'm with you Greg in
Speaker 3: terms of the CJ. Stroud side side of things, I
Speaker 3: think if they roll Tank Dell out there for seventeen weeks,
Speaker 3: like this is going to be some crazy stuff we're
Speaker 3: going to see with this offense. Everybody's talking about Stefan
Speaker 3: Diggs and his role coming in there, I'm more excited
Speaker 3: about can you keep Tank Dell out there for seventeen
Speaker 3: weeks because when he's out there, and that's one, if
Speaker 3: you want to put him in that number three spot
Speaker 3: and let him run those overs in crossing routes and
Speaker 3: get him the ball, watch out. So I'm all in
Speaker 3: on Houston Stroud to me, even when you just watched
Speaker 3: the clips, I went back and watched a bunch of
Speaker 3: stuff over the summer. I thought it was fascinating that
Speaker 3: they gave him a little too much too early, and
Speaker 3: then they backed off for a handful of weeks and
Speaker 3: then it was like, okay, now he's comfortable, and then
Speaker 3: he just went on a tear and the way he
Speaker 3: played it looked like and this is this, this will
Speaker 3: get me in trouble for getting clipped off. But CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud looked like a stronger armed Joe Burrow to me, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you watched him and Joe Burrow's processing, which is just
Speaker 3: next level, and it's it's how fast you work with
Speaker 3: your eyes, but then how slow and grounded you can
Speaker 3: be with your feet to not get sped up. Like
Speaker 3: that's rare. Like what we saw from CJ. Strau was rare, rare, rare,
Speaker 3: rare stuff. And I think he's got a little bit
Speaker 3: more juice as a thrower than Burrow does, So I
Speaker 3: mean that's that's kind of where I view him, which
Speaker 3: is a pretty elite company.
Speaker 1: Thank you for letting us know before giving us the
Speaker 1: take that we're going to put up without any context
Speaker 1: and write like with fire emojis and trying to get
Speaker 1: you as much trouble as possible.
Speaker 4: It's going to get in trouble.
Speaker 3: But I really do like Drew Locke with the Giants.
Speaker 4: It is it is, I got the number backwards. It's
Speaker 4: the Houston Texans giving up three points in this one.
Speaker 4: DJ mentioned the athleticism on the side of the Colts.
Speaker 4: The Texans went and got Daniel Hunter, got a little
Speaker 4: more athletic on the opposite side of the Rookie of
Speaker 4: the Year and Will Anderson Junior love that Game of
Speaker 4: the week?
Speaker 2: Yeah, great run stopping team.
Speaker 1: Last year, I sort of forgot how uneven they were
Speaker 1: as a defense, like they were one of the toughest
Speaker 1: teams to run again, So that's what Indianapolis obviously wants
Speaker 1: to do. These games were fun last year. They were
Speaker 1: fun with with Gardner Minshew actually even to the second one.
Speaker 2: Sneaky great rivalry.
Speaker 1: This is the game of the week because it would
Speaker 1: be my number one draft pick of all those early
Speaker 1: games of what I want to watch and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 1: But we'll see if Jonathan Taylor and Richardson can run
Speaker 1: against what was one of the best run stopping teams
Speaker 1: in the league and added some extra beef this offseason.
Speaker 2: We will all look forward to that.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, let's take a quick break on
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Speaker 1: And I'm excited that we have Daniel Jeremiah along with
Speaker 1: myself and Patrick Claibond this week because before the season
Speaker 1: even starts, I can ask him about his Chargers. He's
Speaker 1: the radio voice of the Chargers with Matt money Smith,
Speaker 1: a great listen as a drive out of work.
Speaker 2: Sometimes and with Sunday night games and try to avoid
Speaker 2: the traffic.
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised how many people like myself fell
Speaker 1: for it again and picked the Chargers to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I thought people were going to be so down on
Speaker 1: the Chargers after this preseason because they had some injury
Speaker 1: concerns that now look like it's okay. Justin Herbert's All
Speaker 1: Systems Go, Joey Bosa's All Systems Go. They are favored
Speaker 1: by three points this week and the opener over the
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders are are we falling for it again and
Speaker 1: just this whole new generation with Jim Harbaugh, Like, what
Speaker 1: are you feeling as mister Charger.
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's more anticipation for this opener than
Speaker 3: any of the previous ones. So this would be my
Speaker 3: seventh year doing it. Money's done it for eight and
Speaker 3: he was in agreement with me on this one that
Speaker 3: I feel like we know less about this team than
Speaker 3: any of the other previous ones. Now, the takes might
Speaker 3: have been right or wrong in previous years, but there
Speaker 3: were a lot of established opinions. Uh, this year we.
Speaker 2: Minor of us all wrong. The Chargers didn't be wrong.
Speaker 3: But I think when you're you're looking at Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 3: right here on the screen, things that are undeniable are
Speaker 3: the fact that it is buttoned up, is discipline. They
Speaker 3: are going to be physical. The offensive line, I think
Speaker 3: is the best that it's been in the years that
Speaker 3: I've been doing it. There, Joe Alt, I mean you
Speaker 3: talk about a look of baptism. Now when you go
Speaker 3: out there week one and you're going to be looking
Speaker 3: at Max Crosby and then you're going to be probably
Speaker 3: see some games they're going to be run and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, here's Christian Wilkins, Like that's not an
Speaker 3: easy introduction to the NFL. But with him and Slater, uh,
Speaker 3: they're really good at tackle. Zion Johnson's has had a
Speaker 3: really good camp and his poised to have a you know,
Speaker 3: kind of a breakout year. So I think the offense
Speaker 3: line is going to be good. I don't know how
Speaker 3: the running backs year is going to be divvied up.
Speaker 3: That's probably the most popular question I it between Gus
Speaker 3: and JK what that's gonna look like. Defensively with that
Speaker 3: with the Chargers, I'm a big fan of Jesse Minner
Speaker 3: and everything I've seen from him and what he's done
Speaker 3: at the collegiate level. And i've seen it with McDonald's defense,
Speaker 3: the same one in Baltimore that we're gonna see in
Speaker 3: Seattle this year. It's the in vogue defense that they're running.
Speaker 3: They've got edge rushers. I think tweet Polo two is
Speaker 3: is one that people kind of need to get comfortable
Speaker 3: being kind of a name brand player to go along
Speaker 3: with Mac and Bosa. What I'm getting as they have
Speaker 3: a lot of talent, they really do the question marks
Speaker 3: the receiver room, you know, TBD, I think is Josh
Speaker 3: Palmer and Ladd McConkey between those two, who's gonna be
Speaker 3: their top guy. But you can make an argument that
Speaker 3: there's you know, they don't have a one with Keenan
Speaker 3: and Mike go On. So that's that's TBD. Don't know
Speaker 3: what that's going to look like. And then I think
Speaker 3: on the other side in the secondary is uh is
Speaker 3: still a question mark outside at corner, like how does
Speaker 3: this group come together? I think it's Sante Samuel in
Speaker 3: this scheme is a really good fit to get his
Speaker 3: hand on some football's Fulton. On the other side, you
Speaker 3: know that we'll see how this whole thing comes together,
Speaker 3: But that would be my question mark on that side.
Speaker 3: So in this particular game, I don't know that the
Speaker 3: Raiders offensively are as equipped to take advantage of maybe
Speaker 3: the question marks of vulnerabilities. And I say that having
Speaker 3: attended a sixty three point thrashing on a Thursday night
Speaker 3: last year in Vegas. But I'm curious to see, you know,
Speaker 3: what that looks like for the Raiders. If brock Bauers
Speaker 3: as we're recording this, I don't know if we have
Speaker 3: any updates on.
Speaker 1: He's at practice. It sounds like he's going to play.
Speaker 1: He's expected.
Speaker 3: I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful on that one because he might
Speaker 3: be one of the rookies if I was. If you're
Speaker 3: going to say, like the three or four rookies you're
Speaker 3: most looking forward to watch, he would make that list
Speaker 3: for me and Patrick. The reason I would say that
Speaker 3: is going onto their training camp. The observation I made
Speaker 3: was if you took brock Bauers and you put him
Speaker 3: in a eighty four jersey and mixed him in with
Speaker 3: the wide receivers and you said there's a tight end there,
Speaker 3: who is it? You wouldn't You wouldn't know. And if
Speaker 3: you put a twenty four on him and you put
Speaker 3: him in the backfield and actually played him at running back,
Speaker 3: he wouldn't look at a place there either, and not
Speaker 3: just because he's the because you got Dylan Lobbies. They
Speaker 3: give you two white guys in the backfield there, so
Speaker 3: he you know, you wouldn't know which one did not
Speaker 3: belong in there. But that's a type of athlete I
Speaker 3: think he is, and I think that's going to be
Speaker 3: a major weapon for the Raiders. So that's kind of
Speaker 3: a word salid way of saying I don't know exactly
Speaker 3: what we're going to see from the Chargers, and I
Speaker 3: think the Raiders d line is stacked, but I just
Speaker 3: don't know if the Raiders offense with Menshew is going
Speaker 3: to be able to take advantage of what the vulnerable
Speaker 3: spots would be for the Chargers on defense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really comes down to how you feel right
Speaker 4: about Gardner Minshew. I think brock Bowers being an ic
Speaker 4: number two option. Considering that DeVante got thirty three percent
Speaker 4: of the target share, which is the most in the
Speaker 4: entire NFL.
Speaker 3: That's not happening this year. By the way, there's no chance,
Speaker 3: there's nothing even close to that.
Speaker 2: They do have weapons. I mean, yeah, they like their
Speaker 2: offensive line. We'll see, but.
Speaker 3: You're going to cut Menshew loose like that's That's my
Speaker 3: thing is that this team has a chance to have
Speaker 3: a top five defense. So and you've got a defensive
Speaker 3: head coach and Antonio Pierce, do you think that he's
Speaker 3: gonna say, Hey, Gardner, like just let's go Gene Shorts
Speaker 3: and let's just freaking go out there and let it rip.
Speaker 3: Like there's no way, dude, it's gonna be a let's
Speaker 3: not turn the ball over let's be careful. We went
Speaker 3: with the veteran over the younger player for that very reason.
Speaker 3: I just don't think they're gonna just cut it loose
Speaker 3: in the passing game like that.
Speaker 4: So I'm here, I'm hearing load up on Samir White for.
Speaker 1: Those Oh yeah, I'm feeling regrets drafting Davante over Chris Olave.
Speaker 1: The vibes are are weird in both places. But the
Speaker 1: Chargers cracked me up.
Speaker 2: I love it. I hope they continue.
Speaker 1: I mentioned it on the show before, how they were
Speaker 1: introduced during their preseason games as Jim.
Speaker 2: Harbaugh and the Chargers.
Speaker 1: It's now like he's the lead singer and they're all
Speaker 1: of his backup, backup, and so I want to see
Speaker 1: if that continues. You can tell me you'll be in
Speaker 1: the stadium, uh for the regular season the Charger. The
Speaker 1: Raiders really believe their defenses will be special. We'll see
Speaker 1: if Antony Peers can keep that magic going. They're great
Speaker 1: up front. It will be a great test for that
Speaker 1: offensive line. Absolutely, but man, they do have weapons on offense.
Speaker 1: With Michael Mayer, everyone said had a great camp, which
Speaker 1: you often see tight ends really improve like quarterbacks from
Speaker 1: year one to year two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, looking forward to saying just how they again, Minshew,
Speaker 4: let go through that in the Chargers run game one
Speaker 4: of the bottom five in the NFL. Have to think
Speaker 4: Greg Roman and Harball in the backs kind of fixed that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, speaking by the way, before we move on
Speaker 1: of white guys in the backfield, three hundred pound fullback
Speaker 1: Scott Matlock making his debut for the Chargers, former defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. Him in front of JK. Dobbins
Speaker 1: might be my favorite backfield because I'm a I love JK.
Speaker 2: Dobbins.
Speaker 1: He was a guest on this show and I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a monster year and is a fun
Speaker 1: guy to watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome back JK. Dobbinson.
Speaker 3: Have you seen his hair?
Speaker 4: Patrick? No? What we talk about that?
Speaker 2: Matt Locke?
Speaker 3: You mean it's like I'd like money lines. I'll give
Speaker 3: money lines to use in the game, which he's never
Speaker 3: used one of them, and I'll be like, dude, this
Speaker 3: could be it. This could be your your like staple
Speaker 3: call here. So like I was thinking, Matt Locke, if
Speaker 3: he scores, you know, play action in the flat we
Speaker 3: handed the ball. You see his picture right now?
Speaker 4: Patrick?
Speaker 3: Yeah, But what if what if you just went o'doyle rules, Bam, gotcha,
Speaker 3: damn rush.
Speaker 4: It perfect though it's perfect, no context necessary, a call
Speaker 4: specifically or for for people of a certain age, and
Speaker 4: we love that. So we go on to a new
Speaker 4: era down in Atlanta. Our next game, the Arthur Smith
Speaker 4: Revenge game. It's Pittsburgh Steelers, come to it Atlanta. Who's
Speaker 4: giving up three and a half points? Atlanta favored here
Speaker 4: at home over under is forty two. Joe Davis, g
Speaker 4: Reg and Pam Oliver on the call. Greg. Does Arthur
Speaker 4: get his revenge?
Speaker 2: I think he does.
Speaker 1: That's kind of been under the radar this week. I
Speaker 1: guess we're just starting the week, but we still got
Speaker 1: some time before the game. But Arthur Smith going in
Speaker 1: there and taking out the other Arthur, Arthur Blank in
Speaker 1: a big spot. Everyone's, you know, putting dirt on this
Speaker 1: team because they stunk in the preseason offensively. But this
Speaker 1: isn't supposed to be about the defense. I mean, the
Speaker 1: offense supposed to be about the defense in this front seven,
Speaker 1: which I think has a chance to be really special.
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward just signed that extension.
Speaker 1: Keanu Betton could get a lot better then you have
Speaker 1: JJ Watt high Smith and Nick Herberg as a third rusher,
Speaker 1: like that might be the best defensive front of the league.
Speaker 1: Like when Larry Ogunjobi is your seventh guy.
Speaker 2: That's good. I like them. I like them in an
Speaker 2: upset in this game? What about you?
Speaker 4: Patrick? I'm okay. So we got Raheem Morris coming to
Speaker 4: inheriting a defense that was top three and rushing efficiency
Speaker 4: on the defensive side, going up against an Arthur Smith
Speaker 4: offense that's gonna want to run the ball. I think
Speaker 4: we get a slug fest. But the Steelers need big plays.
Speaker 4: The Falcons give up some big plays, lost year incomes
Speaker 4: justin Simmons, we know what Jesse Bates can be in
Speaker 4: Raheems defense. I think the Falcons winning mm and give
Speaker 4: you a score, Greg nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2: Does this mean we have like a little a little
Speaker 2: face out here?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, we're going head to head? Should okay? I
Speaker 4: like that?
Speaker 3: I like that. By the way, have you looked at
Speaker 3: the parallel paths of the two quarterbacks, like same draft class?
Speaker 4: Uh huh?
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins Russell Wilson both you know, mid non first
Speaker 3: round picks, mid round picks, both on their third team.
Speaker 3: Both have a quarterback in their quarterback room that those
Speaker 3: in their fan base might be clamoring to see sooner
Speaker 3: than later. There are a lot of similarities there with
Speaker 3: those with those two guys, so I think that's fascinating.
Speaker 3: The other thing is I want to see where Pittsburgh's
Speaker 3: line is health wise. They've been beat up a little bit.
Speaker 3: What does that look like. I thought this was based
Speaker 3: off of the last two drafts, a chance to be
Speaker 3: a really, really good young offensive line. I still think
Speaker 3: by the way Fraser, you'll watch if you watch that game,
Speaker 3: just peak at the at the center for the Steelers
Speaker 3: in Fraser. He is a stud. He's got a chance
Speaker 3: to be one of the best centers in the NFL.
Speaker 3: He's got a lot of Creed Humphrey in him. So
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see him. But they haven't had a
Speaker 3: chance to, you know, have Fatanu healthy throughout camp. He
Speaker 3: got hurt in the first preseason game. Samalo got hurt.
Speaker 3: So for a team that wants to be ground and
Speaker 3: pound and take all the pressure off of Russell Wilson
Speaker 3: play great defense, the offensive line to me is the
Speaker 3: one concern.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: The good news is the last time the Atlanta Falcons
Speaker 3: rushed the quarterback. I think I was in my mother's womb.
Speaker 3: So they that's not something that they've ever been able
Speaker 3: to do. So there's there's a little bit of help
Speaker 3: in that regard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I look at Matthew Judahan as a Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see, because if you cut to me, he is
Speaker 1: a great hustle player, a great leader. I thought is
Speaker 1: like one on one winning pass rush. Moves fell off
Speaker 1: a little bit while he was in New England, certainly
Speaker 1: his last year. He was off the field last year,
Speaker 1: so maybe that helps him. We don't really know, but
Speaker 1: you're right in terms of the offensive line. When Broderck
Speaker 1: Jones was asked about like which side he's playing this week,
Speaker 1: he didn't know as of Tuesday, unless they're just unless
Speaker 1: he was just hiding it from the media.
Speaker 2: They've they've moved him around left to right.
Speaker 1: But I do believe, just in the overall talent upfront
Speaker 1: and the way that it fits this scheme, that it
Speaker 1: eventually gets there. And especially Jalen Warren who is going
Speaker 1: to play in this game. He's healthy, and Naje Harris,
Speaker 1: who reportedly had a really good camp, not thrilled that
Speaker 1: they didn't give him the fifth round tender rather the
Speaker 1: fifth year tender for next year. I think in time
Speaker 1: they'll be fine, and overall, just trust him Week one.
Speaker 1: I think continuity is important. I know Steelers don't have
Speaker 1: a ton of continuity on the offensive side in terms
Speaker 1: of the coaching, but Atlanta it's all new, and so
Speaker 1: the one thing I trust in this game is Mike
Speaker 1: Tomlin in this defense.
Speaker 4: Well, DJ mentioned the fact that they've been looking for
Speaker 4: an edge. They've been looking for pass rush for so long.
Speaker 4: They have eighty one sacks over the last three seasons.
Speaker 4: Matt Judon has thirty two over that spak so it's
Speaker 4: a good call to go get.
Speaker 3: I'm curiously what that looks like. By the way, you
Speaker 3: mentioned Keanu Benton in passing, like he's got a chance
Speaker 3: to be outstanding, like one of the top guys at
Speaker 3: his positioned in a position that's commanded a lot of
Speaker 3: money lately, and teams seem to be obsessing even over
Speaker 3: edge rushers in terms of their impact and importance. I
Speaker 3: think he's got a chance, especially getting a chance to
Speaker 3: play next to and learn from Cam Hayward. I'm all
Speaker 3: in on Keanu ben I don't know what I would
Speaker 3: recommend to money. If Keanu was to make a play,
Speaker 3: I don't know. If there's a line, there's a Keanu
Speaker 3: Reees line that would come into play there, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that would be.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking it's a sack. That's not bad.
Speaker 4: There's there's so many Oh what about you gotta go,
Speaker 4: You gotta go down, body, you gotta go down.
Speaker 2: No one, no one give me any love for coming
Speaker 2: up with that on the spot.
Speaker 4: That was great, It was great. It was great. But
Speaker 4: we have to celebrate point break and the ode to
Speaker 4: Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Uh, yes, that shout out to Keanu.
Speaker 1: By the way, every year around this time they show
Speaker 1: the picture where he holds up the Los Angeles Public
Speaker 1: Library card because he's a big L a p L guy,
Speaker 1: just like the Rosenthalphins were down nice.
Speaker 4: Saying shout shout out to the library, shout out to
Speaker 4: investing in communities. Let's go to our next game, which
Speaker 4: is actually because neither the Jags or the Dolphins play
Speaker 4: the Bucks this year, so it's the Florida State Championship
Speaker 4: in Week one, Jacksonville at Miami. Jacksonville is gonna get
Speaker 4: three and a half points. Miami favorite it in this
Speaker 4: one over under a forty nine, almost at fifty. Kevin Harlan,
Speaker 4: Trent Green, and Melanie Collins on the call. Trevor needs
Speaker 4: to bounce back from having some turnovers DJ. The Miami
Speaker 4: Dolphins defense all got hurt all at keats points last season.
Speaker 4: How to view it.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see the Jags defensive front, and I'm
Speaker 3: thinking with heinz Allen. By the way, it is heins
Speaker 3: Allen and not Alan Hines, by the way I know,
Speaker 3: i'ms screw that up. I'm excited heinz Allen to go
Speaker 3: along with Trayvon Walker, who I thought took steps forward
Speaker 3: last year. I think that could be a really, really
Speaker 3: good duo on the edge. So I'm excited to see
Speaker 3: that front what they look like. Trent Bouki's similar to
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard and that he's gone out and got a
Speaker 3: bunch of long rangey, fast athletic players, including when you
Speaker 3: go to the offensive side of the ball, and what
Speaker 3: they did at the receiver position in the first round
Speaker 3: of the draft with Brian Thomas Junior. So I think
Speaker 3: for a team in Miami, that's lauded for their speed.
Speaker 3: I think this is a pretty fast and athletic Jags
Speaker 3: team as well. So you have, you know the Miami
Speaker 3: front with so many of those guys coming off of injury.
Speaker 3: I think you look at Jags in their front, I
Speaker 3: think they're a little bit cleaner, healthy wise, So I like,
Speaker 3: I kind of like the Jags here to open some
Speaker 3: eyes in this in this first game. By the way,
Speaker 3: to put a button on the library. I do remember
Speaker 3: the last time I believe that I was in the
Speaker 3: library was at a as a kid to go get
Speaker 3: a book for a book report. And the book that
Speaker 3: I that I got, which I would recommend to any
Speaker 3: of your listeners or watchers right now, it was a
Speaker 3: book on Jerry Mark Bright, the NFL official. I was
Speaker 3: like a twelve year old who literally did a book
Speaker 3: report on an NFL official. Quite certain that is the
Speaker 3: only time in history that maybe the book's ever been read,
Speaker 3: but for sure that any twelve year old has ever
Speaker 3: done a book report on said book.
Speaker 4: Jerry bark right is somewhere celebrating like, Oh, somebody's mentioning
Speaker 4: my book, and then he's like, oh, it was the
Speaker 4: last book here ever. I killed reading for done.
Speaker 1: No, come on, you're not bringing your kids to the library.
Speaker 1: You got to raise readers like you're raising football players. Detail,
Speaker 1: come on, full of kicks.
Speaker 3: Look at there lots of books around here.
Speaker 2: I will look that up, the Jerry Mark Right book.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll find it for Walker, who does like to
Speaker 1: take like a nineteen eighty four, you know, Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: book and just read it randomly and give me facts
Speaker 1: from it.
Speaker 3: That was app He's not going to learn a lot
Speaker 3: of current rules, unfortunately. But I believe that came out
Speaker 3: in the mid eighties.
Speaker 2: I thought, you hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Dolphins in this game, but
Speaker 1: three and a half. This is one where I would
Speaker 1: try to thread the needle and just like I don't
Speaker 1: trust the Dolphins really in this game, but they are
Speaker 1: at home because you mentioned the offensive line being banged up,
Speaker 1: like toront Arms said, never out there in camp Aaron
Speaker 1: Brewers coming off of an injury the tackle position, that
Speaker 1: their fans are freaking out about their offensive line. Trayvon Walker,
Speaker 1: I think you know everyone said it was going to
Speaker 1: take him some time, and he did come on at
Speaker 1: the end of last year. I think the Jaguars are
Speaker 1: really excited about what they saw from him during training camp.
Speaker 2: But I go at the Dolphins even though.
Speaker 1: It's close, because in a Week one matchup, I think
Speaker 1: coaching matters even more.
Speaker 2: They break out the new stuff.
Speaker 1: McDaniel's become the new Andy Reid, where he's got some
Speaker 1: special motions and he's got some special run plays, and
Speaker 1: I think without Odell there, they're actually going to have
Speaker 1: more formations where they're using John new Smith. There's been
Speaker 1: a lot of Devon ah Chan as a receiver, and
Speaker 1: just he's going to break out the good stuff. And
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I trust him breaking out the good
Speaker 1: stuff over whatever. The Jaguars coaching staff is gonna be cooked.
Speaker 1: It's a new coordinator. Doug Peterson's fine, but you.
Speaker 4: Know it's an adjustment period. And Doug Peterson still as
Speaker 4: of this week, says between him and Press Taylor, not
Speaker 4: sure how the calling is going to work on. I
Speaker 4: think Doug means just not telling us, like he just
Speaker 4: doesn't want us to know. Well, we'll leave that.
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel has to have a new motion. Patrick, by
Speaker 3: the way, like that motion with Tyreek last year, like
Speaker 3: was all anybody was talking about the first month of
Speaker 3: the season and every team copied it. Like he like
Speaker 3: that would be as I talked about the other day
Speaker 3: with Bucky, I said, like that would be like going
Speaker 3: to a party with the new, you know, new jacket
Speaker 3: on and getting nothing but praise and compliments. But like
Speaker 3: all that does is put pressure on you for the
Speaker 3: next one you go to that you have to have
Speaker 3: a different jacket, right, Like he has pressure on him
Speaker 3: as a coach, maybe more so than anybody else. He
Speaker 3: has to give us something we've never seen before.
Speaker 2: This will be a scorefest.
Speaker 1: One just note is that Pat Jalen Ramsey has not
Speaker 1: been at practice in a while, including on Wednesdays, so
Speaker 1: he might miss this game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do get Jalen Phillips. He is back after the
Speaker 4: Achilles injury last year. I hoped to see him all
Speaker 4: the way back. As we go to our next game,
Speaker 4: the Washington Commanders and the number two overall picked Jaden
Speaker 4: Daniels at Tampa Bay. The Dave Canalis less Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Speaker 4: who are at home and favored by three and a
Speaker 4: half points. Over under is forty four. Ken Baker, keep
Speaker 4: the magic of twenty three going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in this matchup, but I think he can. I
Speaker 1: like the favorite in this game. I like this to
Speaker 1: maybe be not as close as people would expect. I
Speaker 1: think the people are sleeping on the bucks that they
Speaker 1: have a lot of continuity. I think a really good
Speaker 1: defensive coaching staff. We'll see how Liam Cohen can do
Speaker 1: with the offense, but a lot of talent, like close
Speaker 1: to blue chip talent on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: They might pick on the NFC South and they're going
Speaker 1: up against a team that, yeah, we don't know what
Speaker 1: we're gonna get out of Jaden Daniels, but I just
Speaker 1: don't think this Washington team is that that talented on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. I'm gonna do a little
Speaker 1: NFL plus like pro stats because like people think, I'm
Speaker 1: just honking about it to promote the brand.
Speaker 2: Like, no, it's really good.
Speaker 1: Third in blitzes last year in terms of Todd Bowles,
Speaker 1: and yet they had the tenth worst pressure percentage. So
Speaker 1: that's like not a great sign when you're blitzing that
Speaker 1: much but you're still not getting that much pressure. But
Speaker 1: when I look at this offensive line, DJ, this seems
Speaker 1: like an offensive line that you can get pressure against.
Speaker 1: Washington just seems like it's a bottom two or three
Speaker 1: offensive line right now.
Speaker 3: So here's my fantasy plan for this year. I went
Speaker 3: with a lot of rookies. I mentioned neighbors earlier. I
Speaker 3: ended up I got Marvin Harrison Junior in the second round.
Speaker 3: Like I went in, I got a couple of those rookies,
Speaker 3: my starting quarterbacks, Jayden Daniels for fantasy this year. And
Speaker 3: this is the plan. It's for the first five or
Speaker 3: six weeks, and then I'm gonna probably have to pivot
Speaker 3: because when I look at the team, the offensive line,
Speaker 3: I have major questions on this offensive line. The defense,
Speaker 3: I have major questions.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I know they're gonna play hard, you know, when you're
Speaker 3: coached by dan Quoyn. The defense is going to play
Speaker 3: with a lot of effort. They'll find a way to
Speaker 3: make some plays. But I don't really believe in the
Speaker 3: talent that they have right now, so I think they're
Speaker 3: going to be chasing points. I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 3: be able to run the football. I think Jayden Daniels
Speaker 3: is going to be a big part of this running
Speaker 3: the ball. I think he'll be able to make plays
Speaker 3: and some of it might come and lopsided losses where
Speaker 3: they're chasing points, you know, second, third, fourth quarter. But
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a very productive not
Speaker 3: just to highlight real guy, but he's going to put
Speaker 3: up real numbers, real stats. But I worry about the
Speaker 3: longevity of this thing, with how much of the offense
Speaker 3: he's going to have to put on his back, especially
Speaker 3: as a rookie. But I do think statistically he's going
Speaker 3: to get off to a much better start than the
Speaker 3: team itself is going to get off to if that
Speaker 3: makes any sense whatsoever.
Speaker 4: No, it makes perfect sense, and he was able to
Speaker 4: carry a huge statistical load at LSU. The concern the carryover,
Speaker 4: which we saw a little bit of the preseason was
Speaker 4: he would kind of go like Hi, I'm Jayden and
Speaker 4: Daniels and welcome to jackass. Like a few plays where
Speaker 4: it's just like he's taking massive shots, and then we
Speaker 4: saw him run to the sideline, took a needless shot
Speaker 4: in the preseason to Dan Quinn. It's like, hey, what
Speaker 4: are you doing like that? Get that stuff out of here.
Speaker 4: We're going to need to see the rookie. But it's
Speaker 4: just at home for Tampa Bay. First career start for
Speaker 4: Jade Daniels, I would have to go with the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of questions. They just gave Sam Cosmi,
Speaker 1: by the way, where as we're recording this, they gave
Speaker 1: a big kick to their guard Sam Cosmy, who is
Speaker 1: one solid piece of their offensive line. But I look
Speaker 1: at Dan Quinn and I think he plays more man
Speaker 1: coverage than just about any team.
Speaker 2: But who do they have at cornerback? There?
Speaker 1: There was some talk that Sandra still DJ might start
Speaker 1: at outside cornerback, like our guest snaps there too, like
Speaker 1: he's got to play inside when when they have three cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: that's where he's great, but that he's better than what
Speaker 1: they have. I don't think they're a fan of Forbes
Speaker 1: and Michael Davis is.
Speaker 2: There as a veteran. So to me, you're you said it.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be able to run the ball against
Speaker 1: this Bucks run defense.
Speaker 2: They're just good year after year.
Speaker 1: So that's just a lot on Daniels and I don't
Speaker 1: think the cornerbacks hold up.
Speaker 2: You know, I feel great about this pick.
Speaker 3: This is this feels like this feels like a thirty
Speaker 3: like a thirty to seventeen type game, but like I
Speaker 3: think I think Jaye Daniels could pack in a lot
Speaker 3: of fun into those seventeen points.
Speaker 1: Yes, And for the listeners that have been asking, we
Speaker 1: are going to be doing some picks this year on
Speaker 1: the show, I'm going to be doing that with Cynthia Frielan.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going against her model, man versus model,
Speaker 1: the rain maker versus the computer, and so that that's
Speaker 1: coming up later in the week.
Speaker 2: But can we.
Speaker 3: Go Let's go man versus machine, because man versus model
Speaker 3: could take nothing in all.
Speaker 1: Okay, I get it, but she always talks about it's
Speaker 1: her model, that's how she's branded it.
Speaker 2: But you're right, maybe machine has better.
Speaker 4: Greg's real big on SEO DJ, and that would hit.
Speaker 1: I guess, so that would hit solid solid SEO joke
Speaker 1: out of two thousand and eight from Patrick, What a
Speaker 1: NiFe great time it was to have Daniel Jeremiah, who
Speaker 1: is not above some dad jokes and does a great
Speaker 1: job on his podcast Move the Sticks. So for the
Speaker 1: first time you've decided to continue it during the NFL
Speaker 1: regular season. It's not just a draft show this year,
Speaker 1: So congrats, DJ.
Speaker 3: He Hytham promised me time and a half after thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: So let's just make sure that that check gets shut
Speaker 3: down here to San Diego.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, just wait for it in the mail. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you, DJ. We are going to take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be back Patrick and I will do
Speaker 1: the rest of the games back on the NFL Daily.
Speaker 1: Seven games to go through, starting with a delicious one
Speaker 1: Sunday Night.
Speaker 2: Football, the rematch Rams at Lions.
Speaker 1: The Lions are favored by three and a half in
Speaker 1: this game, and for some reason, I don't know why,
Speaker 1: I feel so much better about the Lions coming into
Speaker 1: this season than the Rams when last year, when the
Speaker 1: season was ending, I thought the Rams were gonna win
Speaker 1: that game. First of all, they were in Lions territory
Speaker 1: with a chance to take the lead late in that
Speaker 1: game before a penalty backed them up and then they
Speaker 1: punted it and they ended up losing what to me
Speaker 1: was a coin flip type of game. And yeah, the
Speaker 1: Lions added some good pieces in the secondary, that is
Speaker 1: part of it. I think it's the weird preseason the
Speaker 1: Rams have had that have included a lot of injuries
Speaker 1: and we're gonna probably have to wait a Sunday to
Speaker 1: see how healthy this offensive line is Puku Nakua has
Speaker 1: been out there at practice but wasn't one hundred percent
Speaker 1: and maybe it's the injuries. These just some weird vibe
Speaker 1: stuff where they trade Ernest Jones and they're starting Troy Reider.
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be this undrafted kid
Speaker 1: Omar Space, who I think eventually is going to take
Speaker 1: that job. From what the reporting has been for now
Speaker 1: it's Troy Reader. And I actually think that matchup is
Speaker 1: a good place to start Patrick, because I look at
Speaker 1: the middle of the field and I just think that's
Speaker 1: where the Lions absolutely kill you. And that's where I'd
Speaker 1: be a little concerned if I'm the Rams in those linebackers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is the concern, But they would have never
Speaker 4: been in that circumstance had they been like, oh, we're
Speaker 4: not gonna be able to make it work without Ernest Jones.
Speaker 4: And I think it's honestly part for the course. Like
Speaker 4: if you consider the cam Akers situation, there's there's always
Speaker 4: some sort of Derek Goff, Yeah, weird vibe guide departs
Speaker 4: and it's maybe it ends up working out for Ernest
Speaker 4: Jones in Nashville and working out for the Rams. I
Speaker 4: just I'm I'm seeing a healthy Matthew Stafford, and you
Speaker 4: just have to I have to start there because when
Speaker 4: Stafford is on, he's just so good. You mentioned the
Speaker 4: fact that it was a coin flip, and we do
Speaker 4: have the benefit of hindsight, and we look back at
Speaker 4: some of these playoff games as though like that was
Speaker 4: the outcome that was destined by the universe. Right, but
Speaker 4: this is not all Now.
Speaker 1: I think the Rams would have made the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: if the simulation played out the NFC playoffs ten times,
Speaker 1: they would have made it twice, exactly twice.
Speaker 4: And so it's right, Jared Verse and Braden Fist come in. No,
Speaker 4: they're not going to replace Aaron Donald, literally, no one can.
Speaker 4: But it can be different. And we had questions about
Speaker 4: the Rams defense where they were just kind of bubblegum
Speaker 4: and air and in it together, and several of those
Speaker 4: guys panned out. I'm I'm comfortable.
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable with them too.
Speaker 1: I just think the lines are going to be one
Speaker 1: of the best teams in the NFL, and they have
Speaker 1: great continuity and the Rams have solid continuity. Two. But again,
Speaker 1: I'll go back to the Rams defense. I do want
Speaker 1: to talk about their offense. Tredevious White, Darius Williams. That's
Speaker 1: their outside cornerbacks. Two names we haven't really talked about
Speaker 1: on NFL Daily much, and yet I think they're going
Speaker 1: to be so important for this team. It could really
Speaker 1: work out. I think they liked everything they saw. A
Speaker 1: Trudavius White could be a great value pick. So could
Speaker 1: Darius Williams, who left the Rams, had some up and
Speaker 1: down years with the Jaguars. Now he's back. They're in
Speaker 1: a big spot here. This defense might go as far
Speaker 1: as kind of those two cornerbacks take them. And yet,
Speaker 1: going up against our guy Jamo, it's Jayme out breakoff season.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's our guy, but I'm rooting.
Speaker 4: No, I'm a Jmo guy, and I think that that
Speaker 4: number of fifty and a half is in danger. Yes,
Speaker 4: the number is in danger. Coming up on Sunday Night Football,
Speaker 4: Mirke Trico, Chris collins Worth, Melissa Stark to kick off
Speaker 4: the season. What about another rookie quarterback going up against
Speaker 4: the second year quarterback as we go to the Tennessee
Speaker 4: Titans at the Icago Bears. The Chicago Bears at home,
Speaker 4: four point favorites Adam Me and Mark Sanchez Christina Pink
Speaker 4: on the call. We get to see all that talent
Speaker 4: around the number one overall pick. Who you think is
Speaker 4: the most talented of the group.
Speaker 1: Greg, Yeah, well, of course he is. I mean, then
Speaker 1: this is an easy first matchup. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be dismissive of the Titans.
Speaker 4: Oh get them, Greg.
Speaker 1: I think if you were choosing who you play week one, now,
Speaker 1: I guess the one concern would be the offensive line
Speaker 1: of the Bears. Can can they protect Caleb? But in
Speaker 1: the back end, like Lagarious Need, want to see what
Speaker 1: he looks like. Obviously a great pickup, but he's had
Speaker 1: his knee issues where he can't practice that much.
Speaker 2: He means, you know, maintains it. But we don't know
Speaker 2: about Judo b Woozy.
Speaker 1: We don't know about the safety position totally there in Tennessee.
Speaker 1: And I just think Chicago sends so many different players
Speaker 1: at you that's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Tough to deal with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lagarious Need comes over right, Okay, that's great, But
Speaker 4: when you consider Romo Dunsee and Keenan Allen, also DJ Moore,
Speaker 4: DeAndre Swift out of the backfield, there's just a lot
Speaker 4: of guys that can hurt you in a lot of
Speaker 4: different ways. But I am interested to see the Callahans
Speaker 4: just in general, because it's a completely rebuilt calla high
Speaker 4: off offensive line. If you're talking about like names where
Speaker 4: people think it's just gonna like Stoutland Callahan the improvement
Speaker 4: of the offensive. What does that do for Will Levis.
Speaker 4: I want to see Calvin Ridley here, but the juice,
Speaker 4: it's just too exciting in Chicago.
Speaker 2: I'm going to I still got that.
Speaker 1: I do want to catch up and watch that last
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks and see what was going on the edits
Speaker 1: that they had on the Caleb Williams passes that I
Speaker 1: saw on Twitter, where like it's incredible, Like NFL Films
Speaker 1: is always doing some wild stuff.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the offensive life.
Speaker 1: I do think this team is going to go kind
Speaker 1: of go as far as their running game takes them.
Speaker 1: Spears and Tony Pollard that could be a special duo
Speaker 1: with Will Levis running the ball too, Like they could
Speaker 1: be a lot closer to what the Colts are offensively.
Speaker 1: I think then people realize because Levis is a bad
Speaker 1: man with the ball in his hands, like he worries you,
Speaker 1: but he is a absolute threat in the red zone.
Speaker 1: Pollard just from the little I saw in the preseason,
Speaker 1: had juice. I think Todji Spears is gonna have a
Speaker 1: great year, a great career. So that is an awesome group.
Speaker 1: And it's against a Bears group that isn't as good
Speaker 1: upfront but has unreal continuity in the back end. And
Speaker 1: that's why I kind of favored the Bears in this game,
Speaker 1: that they have too much on both sides. I don't
Speaker 1: know four points a lot for like a new team
Speaker 1: like the Bears, but I do think continuity week one.
Speaker 1: I heard Bill Belichick talking about it too this time
Speaker 1: of year, that like it really does matter for some
Speaker 1: of these teams that haven't played at all in the
Speaker 1: preseason and have everything new, Like the Bears have a
Speaker 1: lockdown secondary. It's sort of the opposite of the last
Speaker 1: game we talked about. The Lions have an all new secondary,
Speaker 1: which actually worries you against Pooka and Cooper Cup and Stafford.
Speaker 1: It's all new. Yeah, they're talented, they've never once played together.
Speaker 1: It's going to test their communication. I trust the Bears communication,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I even think i'd like them over four points.
Speaker 4: And the one new piece, the new piece in that
Speaker 4: bear secondary has a revenge game. It's Kevin Byerd. It
Speaker 4: is a revenge game against his former team, the Tennessee Titans,
Speaker 4: after a stop that didn't go like we thought it
Speaker 4: would as the Philadelphia Eagles kind of fell apart on
Speaker 4: the back end at the end of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and go to our game in the
Speaker 4: NFC South. Greg and I have already disagreed on the
Speaker 4: importance of this game and significance of it out of sheer,
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2: What do you mean. I'm watching this game Sunday.
Speaker 4: The Carolina Panthers at the New Orleans Saints in the
Speaker 4: Mercedes Been Super Dome. The Saints favored by four points.
Speaker 4: The over under is forty one and a half. Chris Smyers,
Speaker 4: Marks Laire Jen Hale watching Derek Carr try to rebuild
Speaker 4: his relationship Greg with the city of New York.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you said it, We already disagreed.
Speaker 1: I guess how important it is, because yeah, I think
Speaker 1: this is the most important game any team has all
Speaker 1: week is the Saints because if they're losing this game early,
Speaker 1: it's they will be the first fan base to boo
Speaker 1: no question, if no question at all, the vibes will
Speaker 1: be horrendous. I don't think it's gonna happen because I
Speaker 1: think the Saints defense and it might be because you know,
Speaker 1: we spoke with Honey Badger on NFL Network. I got
Speaker 1: to and he really convinced me that this defense is
Speaker 1: just like Prian and it is such an old defense
Speaker 1: to Mario Davis and Cam Jordan and Tyron Matthew being
Speaker 1: like three of the absolute leaders. And yet I think
Speaker 1: with the rise of Alante Taylor, he reportedly was like
Speaker 1: the player of training camp that he's going to be
Speaker 1: that improved. Marshawn Lattimore is back at practice and a deebo.
Speaker 1: I do think it's a tough first matchup for Bryce
Speaker 1: Young and that they'll just have enough that it might
Speaker 1: not be an exciting game, but they'll be able to
Speaker 1: kind of squeeze the life out of the Panthers here
Speaker 1: and save those boo berds.
Speaker 2: Get it, get an.
Speaker 1: Early lead, and it won't be pretty, but it'll be
Speaker 1: kind of a typical. I feel like the Panthers and
Speaker 1: the Saints have played this game before. Hell, they played
Speaker 1: it Week two on Monday, Night Football last.
Speaker 4: Year and and ultimately right because we talked about a
Speaker 4: couple of teams that don't necessarily have the horses in
Speaker 4: the secondary. Kool A McKinstry joins that group as well.
Speaker 4: I think they can be really good. But as you mentioned, right,
Speaker 4: the agenda is out there. You will probably hear some
Speaker 4: rattles in the States if things don't go don't go correctly.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't even think about that. Are
Speaker 2: people going to buy rattles that, Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: No, it's it's gonna be a thing, But it will
Speaker 4: not be a thing if the Saints can be successful
Speaker 4: on offense. And we'll have to see how Clint Kubiak
Speaker 4: is especially going to deploy Alvin Kamara, Chris o'lave as well.
Speaker 4: There's all these pieces that we've seen for such a
Speaker 4: long time. What are they going to look like in
Speaker 4: a no Sean Payton Pete carbon type situation. It's it's
Speaker 4: all new, it's all different. And does it bring life
Speaker 4: back to the.
Speaker 2: Saints this week?
Speaker 1: I think it does because just the offensive line is
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest question mark of this team
Speaker 1: all season long. Trevor Penning, maybe they're still going to
Speaker 1: roll him out there right tackle. We're not totally sure
Speaker 1: there's he's not the only question. The good thing for
Speaker 1: the Saints is they'll be tempted to put him out
Speaker 1: there this week because he's going up against what might
Speaker 1: be the worst pass rush in the entire NFL, especially
Speaker 1: if Devian Clowney isn't healthy enough for this game.
Speaker 2: But I think he'll be out there.
Speaker 1: But they're really thin, so I think this is a
Speaker 1: rare game where Derek Carr can sit back there and
Speaker 1: be protected. I think Bryce Young is going to be
Speaker 1: a lot better this year. I think this is going
Speaker 1: to be a professional offense. I just think the amount
Speaker 1: of improvement that they have an offense is going to
Speaker 1: be mitigated by their defense getting worse, maybe not equally worse,
Speaker 1: but getting worse. And I think it's a great matchup
Speaker 1: if you're in fantasy anyone playing the Panthers every week,
Speaker 1: Like if you're ever going to use Rashid Shaheed if
Speaker 1: he's out there practicing healthy, if you're going to use
Speaker 1: you Camara in a league that doesn't have flex order
Speaker 1: like this is this is the week to do it.
Speaker 2: I think the Saints like this match.
Speaker 4: Well either way. If the defense is given up buckets.
Speaker 4: Then it gives Bryce an opportunity to go out there
Speaker 4: and inflate the stats a little bit more and have
Speaker 4: people feeling better about his next season in the NFL.
Speaker 4: We'll leave there and go to some Monday night football.
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers returns to the football field for the Jets
Speaker 4: on the road against the team that he dreamed of
Speaker 4: playing for as a child, the San Francisco forty nine Ers,
Speaker 4: at home. Favored by four and a half points. The
Speaker 4: over under is forty four. Joe buck Troyigman leads assalters watching.
Speaker 4: I used to still hard not to call him twelve
Speaker 4: eight out there against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Greg, I love this.
Speaker 1: If you're in the UK and you're listening to NFL Daily, Hello,
Speaker 1: by the way, Hi, nice to hear from you. And
Speaker 1: we love all of our international listeners because we see it.
Speaker 1: It's in They're in Australia, they're in Germany, they're in Canada,
Speaker 1: they're everywhere, but the UK listeners. If you watch Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football on Channel five, I'll be doing this game
Speaker 1: with Maurice Jones Drew and giving the analysis throughout. So
Speaker 1: I'm doing that throughout the year, not every week, but
Speaker 1: I'm doing this week one, and what an awesome Week one.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good matchup for Aaron Rodgers because
Speaker 1: when I think about what's going to give Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: trouble is what gave him trouble even in those couple
Speaker 1: of plays that he played last year, when defenses show
Speaker 1: one thing and then do another and just hold make
Speaker 1: him hold the ball a little extra because he likes
Speaker 1: to freelance and figure it all out himself instead of
Speaker 1: always playing within the offense. It's like the Aaron Rodgers offense.
Speaker 1: As good as the forty nine ers defense should be,
Speaker 1: they're not as good as they were up front in
Speaker 1: the past. And I don't think they're a defense that
Speaker 1: tries to trick you. They're just a great, solid defense
Speaker 1: that will line up and I think Aaron Rodgers will
Speaker 1: know to get rid of the ball more quickly in
Speaker 1: this matchup, trust his weapons. And it's an I mean,
Speaker 1: this is it was a perfect choice. It's kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of tempting fate to put him on
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football again to start the season. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he won't be running out with the flag that was
Speaker 1: That was a cool moment, but they won'on't be doing.
Speaker 4: It, and probably not back to back plays where the
Speaker 4: tackles are cutting to start the season. I would think
Speaker 4: it's just we're going to figure out how to protect
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers as things go. But in terms of protecting
Speaker 4: him of the forty nine ers a top ten pressure
Speaker 4: defense a season ago, in terms of how they attacked
Speaker 4: him on offense, probably a lot of Tyler Conklin. But
Speaker 4: it's just been so much good news, so much good
Speaker 4: news for the forty nine ers over the past. You
Speaker 4: asked me this question about this game a week ago, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I would be completely different. Prop seventy one passed. We
Speaker 4: got Trent, we got.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't be humble about anyone that listened last
Speaker 1: week and heard the voice of God. Patrick claybaughn make
Speaker 1: it happen and get this California legislation through. I wish
Speaker 1: my local government was as proactive as the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers were getting this contract.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole point of Prop. Seventy one was good
Speaker 4: to get Trent Williams paid. Trent Williams brother broke the
Speaker 4: news that he was gone on the way to Santa
Speaker 4: Clara to get the deal. Finalizing the best player on
Speaker 4: the team, the guys going to the Hall of Fame back,
Speaker 4: that makes the difference with Trent and no, Trent is
Speaker 4: always significant for the forty nine Ers, and so he's back.
Speaker 4: They're a great team. A play away from the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: You could argue maybe a half a play away from
Speaker 4: the winning the Super Bowl over the Chiefs last year,
Speaker 4: I'm nineers here.
Speaker 1: I'm niners here. Two four and a half points feels
Speaker 1: like a lot. I do think when the forty nine
Speaker 1: Ers have the ball, it's the best offense defense matchup
Speaker 1: of the entire week after the kickoff game, because I
Speaker 1: do trust Robert Sala's defense, especially in that secondary. They
Speaker 1: gave Michael Carter, the their slot corner back, a big
Speaker 1: contract this week. It's just so lockdown that actually, iuk
Speaker 1: who hasn't had a lot of practice time. Trent Williams
Speaker 1: hasn't had a lot of practice time. Party was kind
Speaker 1: of weird in the preseason, McCaffrey coming off of an injury.
Speaker 1: If I am a team on the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: schedule and it's determined four years ahead of time that
Speaker 1: you have to go to the on the road to
Speaker 1: play the forty nine ers, So you're on it. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to go there no matter what. This is
Speaker 1: probably the week to play him. I give the Jets
Speaker 1: defense a better chance of really slowing down a little
Speaker 1: Robert Salah revenge game, just defensively, keeping this to a
Speaker 1: defensive game. So yeah, I think the over under here
Speaker 1: is forty four. Yeah this, I don't really feel that
Speaker 1: strong about either team in this game, but I like
Speaker 1: it to be more of a defensive game of fun,
Speaker 1: kind of old school game on Monday night football.
Speaker 4: All right, So Greg says that forty four not in
Speaker 4: danger there. We have an over under a forty one
Speaker 4: and a half for our next game in a big favorite.
Speaker 4: We finish up with some big favorites, the Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 4: and Gino Eugene Cyril Smith favored by six points over
Speaker 4: the just named on Wednesday, Dang captain of the team,
Speaker 4: rookie quarterback Bo Knicks getting his first career start.
Speaker 1: Greg, Dang, I didn't know they were such big favorites.
Speaker 1: I thought I was being bold by putting up a
Speaker 1: crooked score here, because yeah, you know, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: I am biased, but I also believe in it. I
Speaker 1: think Peyton versus Mike McDaniel. I mean, Peyton versus Mike
Speaker 1: McDonald is just like an credible matchup coaching wise, when
Speaker 1: you have the ball, but one quarterback is just starting
Speaker 1: out in one defense. Yes, it's the first time at
Speaker 1: McDonald's coaching this, but it's a veteran group, and I
Speaker 1: think he can get Nicks like just moving faster and
Speaker 1: that Mike McDonald and this defense is going to just
Speaker 1: throw so much at him that he just starts either
Speaker 1: speeding up or holding the ball and not knowing what
Speaker 1: to do. And Sean Payton, it's going to be hard
Speaker 1: for him to give as many quick answers get guys
Speaker 1: as open. I'm so big on this Seahawks secondary. It's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I'm big on the team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and looking at the cause you mentioned right, everybody
Speaker 4: up crowding the line of scrimmage, guy's getting their hands
Speaker 4: on the ball. It makes you think of Mike McDonald's
Speaker 4: Ravens defense on the road in Santa Clara last and
Speaker 4: all those tip balls against brock Party, because there's gonna
Speaker 4: be a lot of Bonnick's action in the middle of
Speaker 4: the field. Again, this guy started more games than anybody
Speaker 4: in the history of college football, going back to the
Speaker 4: eighteen hundreds. He's got a lot of experience, even though
Speaker 4: it's not here at the NFL level, I think he
Speaker 4: can be as solid. But again, first start on the
Speaker 4: road the Seattle Seahawks. That's asking a lot of your.
Speaker 2: Gros, it is.
Speaker 1: And yet, like the Seahawks haven't over under this year
Speaker 1: of seven and a half, so I know they have
Speaker 1: a tough schedule, but if you think about it, Vegas
Speaker 1: is saying that they're a sub five hundred team and
Speaker 1: yet they're one of the biggest favorites this week. That
Speaker 1: is a lot of disrespect to Denver, who I think
Speaker 1: is going to be competitive this year, and I think
Speaker 1: does ignore a little bit the fact of the question
Speaker 1: marks that the Seahawks have, because they do want to
Speaker 1: bring that up. The inside linebackers I think are going
Speaker 1: to be a problem potentially for the Seaks, Tyrol Dotson
Speaker 1: and Drome Baker.
Speaker 2: Baker hasn't been healthy.
Speaker 1: They actually traded for a rookie to give them some
Speaker 1: depth there because I don't think McDonald's feeling confident. And
Speaker 1: so that's where Sean Payton tends to win a lot
Speaker 1: too quick throws over the middle of the field. Bonnicks
Speaker 1: can certainly do that. They also have a very shake
Speaker 1: offensive line on paper. Connor Williams is coming back from
Speaker 1: a torn aco just started ramping up his work with
Speaker 1: the hope of starting Week one. But that's an area
Speaker 1: that maybe the Broncos can attack too. I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: that that down on this Broncos team. I can see
Speaker 1: their vision that the defensive line could be a little
Speaker 1: better with Baron Browning and then my guy Zach Allen,
Speaker 1: like a little Jonathan Franklin Myers who they traded for
Speaker 1: on Draft Day, Like that could give some issues, did
Speaker 1: you know? Ultimately, Like I like the Seahawks big in
Speaker 1: this game, and yet like the overall talent level, it's
Speaker 1: not crazy to think that the Broncos can cover here
Speaker 1: at the least.
Speaker 4: And the most talented player on the Broncos got the
Speaker 4: news on Wednesday, Patrick Satan, getting his extension as one
Speaker 4: of the highest paid cornerbacks now in the NFL, and
Speaker 4: he will go up against DK Metcalf and Jackson.
Speaker 1: So many players got paid this week, just like everyone
Speaker 1: got paid this week. Why do we have to wait?
Speaker 1: I guess it's just deadlines. That's how that's how it works.
Speaker 4: Just pay everybody early. We'd be okay with that. Before
Speaker 4: you get into this, Let's go to our next game,
Speaker 4: Arizona at Buffalo. The Buffalo Bills with all the changes
Speaker 4: on offense and defense, favored by six and a half
Speaker 4: points over Kyler and company. The over under is forty eight.
Speaker 4: Ross Socker or Friend Tiffany Blackman Jay Feeley McCarthy on
Speaker 4: the call, as I think the Arizona Cardinals Greg have
Speaker 4: a chance to go in here and get a winning WHOA.
Speaker 1: I could not disagree with you more. We're going to
Speaker 1: be doing Survivor picks on this show each week, so
Speaker 1: we're going to help you in your Survivor pool. We're
Speaker 1: not allowed to participate in that we work for the NFL,
Speaker 1: but what we can do is tell you who we
Speaker 1: would pick. And yeah, I love the Bills in this game.
Speaker 1: I love them to win the game and just move
Speaker 1: on in your Survivor pool. But at six and a
Speaker 1: half and I love them to get over that. As
Speaker 1: I mentioned, I'm teasing I'm going to be making some
Speaker 1: picks with Cynthia later in the week. But I think
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in this game over under three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty total yards from scrimmage, over under forty points for
Speaker 1: the Bills, and that like Kyler Murray, Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: go put up twenty eight in this game and you.
Speaker 2: Still lose by like twelve points.
Speaker 1: I just am not buying what the Cardinals are putting
Speaker 1: out there on defense, especially in a game like this
Speaker 1: where I trust the offensive line, trust the quarterback. I
Speaker 1: think they have good continuity. I know Stefan Diggs isn't there,
Speaker 1: but they know the guys that are there. They're adding
Speaker 1: some fun to the mix with Keon Coletman certainly.
Speaker 2: Like I'm big on the Bills.
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna pick them to win the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick them the win in Week one against
Speaker 1: the Cardinals.
Speaker 4: You can lose in Week one and come back and
Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl. Shout out to last.
Speaker 2: Year's not in Survivor pools.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't, by the way, I just think you
Speaker 1: there's no point in Survivor Bulls to outsmart yourself in
Speaker 1: Week one. There's a reason that there's only one game
Speaker 1: this week with a points spread over seven points.
Speaker 2: Like every even every every.
Speaker 1: Point spread this week is a one score game because
Speaker 1: week one, you just don't know what the heck's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: You you outwit and you outlast and you survive. That's
Speaker 4: the goal of a surprise. But you mentioned Greg the
Speaker 4: possibility Arizona scores twenty eight points. I think that's going
Speaker 4: to be enough. I think I got Arizona twenty eight
Speaker 4: twenty seven because, Okay, Jordan Poyer played ninety eight percent
Speaker 4: of the available snaps for the Bills. Micah Hodd played
Speaker 4: ninety two percent. There's no Matt Mulano for the first
Speaker 4: quarter of the season. I'm not doubting the long term
Speaker 4: viability okay with the Buffalo Bills. But I can see
Speaker 4: here in a spot where Kyler runs around, the rookie
Speaker 4: gets a touchdown, the Arizona Cardinals defense makes a couple
Speaker 4: of plays, Buddha Baker gets one, and the Cardinals go
Speaker 4: in there and knock off the Bills.
Speaker 1: To what this is like an anti Damar Hamlin agenda,
Speaker 1: Like I like the fact that Tamar Hamlin starting out.
Speaker 2: Say that, I like it? What a story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tamar Hamlin is expected to start in this game,
Speaker 1: which is which is wild. That safety I hear what
Speaker 1: you're saying on the safeties. I don't think Jordan Poyer
Speaker 1: was quite the same player as he used to be.
Speaker 1: Michael Hyde, it's weird he's still out. He retired and
Speaker 1: there was some talk maybe he will return at some point.
Speaker 1: I do like their cornerbacks, but the safety group is
Speaker 1: a concern. I don't think they're going to be a
Speaker 1: lockdown defense. I'm excited to see my two Land guy
Speaker 1: Dorian Williams try to step in for Matt Mlano. He's
Speaker 1: a fun player, very aggressive, but you can probably get
Speaker 1: him to over commit in the running game. And they
Speaker 1: have a great play action game and Kyler's gonna be running.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they put up twenty five to twenty eight.
Speaker 1: I just don't trust the defense. And it's a it's
Speaker 1: a score fest.
Speaker 4: The score. Everybody's got a score fest, which is great.
Speaker 4: It's great for everybody watching a one pm on CBS
Speaker 4: looking forward to that game. And let's finish it up,
Speaker 4: Greg with your new England Patriots, Yes, visiting the Cincinnati Bengals,
Speaker 4: who are favored by eight points an over under a
Speaker 4: forty one Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, our dear friend, and
Speaker 4: Evan Washburn on the call, Greg eight points.
Speaker 1: That's a lot, ye. I mean we're supposed to make
Speaker 1: Survivor picks here. You haven't made one, Patrick, So is
Speaker 1: this your pick?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you, Greg, because I think the Cardinals
Speaker 4: are gonna win that game. This is not Survivor.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I know you could have picked someone earlier.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to wait until we got here because
Speaker 4: I am not picking to deailand Patriots to beat the
Speaker 4: Bengals at home.
Speaker 2: I mean disrespectful, I respectful.
Speaker 1: I think people, all right, what was the most watched
Speaker 1: game in the entire preseason.
Speaker 2: You may not know this, It was Patriots commanders.
Speaker 1: Everyone watched that game and their offensive line.
Speaker 4: Clearly they were tuning into suspach right.
Speaker 1: Was absolute trash in that game. And they weren't healthy.
Speaker 1: Verdarian Lowe is supposed to be back, Like we're trying
Speaker 1: to get excited that, uh, they're left tackle Verderian low No.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a pretty big problem
Speaker 1: for them protecting Jacoby Brissett in this game. The bigger problem,
Speaker 1: I think actually is that the Patriots defense just might
Speaker 1: not be special without bar Moore and Judahn, Christian Gonzalez
Speaker 1: reportedly kind of up and down camp. We'll see when
Speaker 1: it met like it's only camp, we'll see when it matters.
Speaker 1: But are these guys that Belichick got a lot out
Speaker 1: of kind of the veterans like that showed up, Like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, Jabrill Preppers is good? Oh like Tavai is
Speaker 1: suddenly good? Like are this guy's gonna stay as good
Speaker 1: and keep it going with dradmeo that worries me against
Speaker 1: uh Joe Burrow and this team. And some news on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase back at practice, And now that Jamar Chase's
Speaker 1: back of practice sounds like he looked good on this
Speaker 1: one route that they put out there doing a stop route.
Speaker 1: Sounds like he's gonna play. I actually feel even stronger
Speaker 1: about my whole Yoshavas thing. I think Yoshava, as much
Speaker 1: as we've talked about Andre Yoshavas is like he's the
Speaker 1: third guy. I don't think people understand how talented he is.
Speaker 1: I think by the end of this year, we're gonna say, okay,
Speaker 1: like it's gonna suck to lose t Higgins, But they
Speaker 1: have another high qualities starting receiver that can be a
Speaker 1: number two because he kind of reminds me not to
Speaker 1: honk too much about yoshavas he reminds me a little
Speaker 1: bit of Tarik Woolen, but as a receiver in that
Speaker 1: like he went late in the draft, but his physical
Speaker 1: skill set is so bananas that if he can figure
Speaker 1: out how to play at the NFL level, he's just
Speaker 1: gonna be a freak. And he has figured it out
Speaker 1: by all accounts that I think he's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: So for him to be the three and I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a problem. Like Marcus Jones is the
Speaker 1: Patriots slot corner. He is about five eight one seventy
Speaker 1: like that, that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 4: It's just a terrifying, uh combination of size and speed
Speaker 4: for Yoshi, who who I think is looking forward to
Speaker 4: a solid season. And not to be disrespectful of the doing,
Speaker 4: I think the spread being because it wasn't eight and
Speaker 4: a half, I think eight may be more disrespectable than
Speaker 4: me taking them as a survivor, right.
Speaker 2: So now you gotta take someone it makes sense.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I'm okay with the Patriots here, but
Speaker 4: I think we're a couple.
Speaker 1: It's it's the beautiful thing about Week one though, because
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense as the team least likely
Speaker 1: to win this week as the Patriots. And yet, like, what,
Speaker 1: it really shock you that much? I don't think it
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me that Like, once we get to week
Speaker 1: like thirteen, like eight, an eight point spread won't seem
Speaker 1: as big. There'll be like four or five games like
Speaker 1: that are bigger than that. Like, it wouldn't shock me
Speaker 1: that much just because there's so much unknown and who
Speaker 1: knows Keon White gets it going. Who knows, maybe the
Speaker 1: Patriots get fired up by the most random moment there
Speaker 1: we go of the entire NFL Daily podcast that you're
Speaker 1: gonna hear, maybe they get fired up, and watch a
Speaker 1: tape of Expatriot Rob Nikovich imitating mac Jones during the week.
Speaker 2: Let's listen.
Speaker 5: The demeanor alone between mac Jones and Drake may are
Speaker 5: completely different. Oh yeah, like I could listen to freaking yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, I just got to keep working and got
Speaker 5: to get better, and you know, I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 5: working hard and we're just everybody together, and yeah, it
Speaker 5: wasn't it wasn't my best.
Speaker 3: And I got to be better over and over and
Speaker 3: over and over again.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make the Bengals a ten point.
Speaker 1: I knew Patrick wouldn't like this and yet and it's mean,
Speaker 1: and I apologize to mac Jones for for that. But
Speaker 1: when I heard that impression, I was just like, I
Speaker 1: want that to be heard by more people. That was that,
Speaker 1: like he if you close your eyes, that was that
Speaker 1: was mac Jones. That was his Like I have listened
Speaker 1: to somni mac Jones press conferences and that was.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 1: That was my biggest like jump scare of the week.
Speaker 1: The second biggest was when Matt Patricia showed up on
Speaker 1: The Underdog Bill Belichick Show where they like panned to
Speaker 1: him and suddenly it was Matt Patricia, but he looked
Speaker 1: completely different.
Speaker 2: Have you seen this.
Speaker 4: There's a new Matt Patricia.
Speaker 1: There's a new Matt Patricia and he kind of looks
Speaker 1: like like an evil character from like Grand Theft Auto
Speaker 1: And it was amazing. An underdog is doing an awesome
Speaker 1: job over there. Of course he had the call and
Speaker 1: of course that Belichick Show, which I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to doing this every week with you.
Speaker 2: Patrick.
Speaker 1: I hope you don't mind too much. I put that
Speaker 1: impression at the end, No, I love it, you love it.
Speaker 1: You're Alabama guy.
Speaker 4: I need to get I need to get Malcolm Butler
Speaker 4: to go on the show with Matt Patricia and talk
Speaker 4: about what happened so we can re litigate that.
Speaker 2: I would love to hear that.
Speaker 1: That was the Dan and Ninco Show, by the way,
Speaker 1: so we got to give credit to the Dan and
Speaker 1: Ningcos show.
Speaker 2: The podcast. This was great. We're gonna be doing this
Speaker 2: every week.
Speaker 1: It's usually gonna be Steve Weisch with us in the
Speaker 1: Chris Westleyan podcast studio, so I'm looking forward to that
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 2: Also looking forward to Thursday night.
Speaker 1: We are going to be recapping the game live on YouTube,
Speaker 1: so check out myself and Jordan Rodrieg will be about
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes after the end of the kickoff game. We
Speaker 1: finally made it. Patrick, We're here. Football is better