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Speaker 2: For the game up there. Good unders, good luck to
Speaker 2: all the Cowboy fans rolling on up there. The FedEx
Speaker 2: Field seats won't be as easy to get this time.
Speaker 2: That's something in love with their team again, right?
Speaker 3: What was the It's not a pig, but what what
Speaker 3: their mascot?
Speaker 2: What is his name again? Commanded Sergeant Tuddy's still a
Speaker 2: big that's still a thing, right, So right? I think
Speaker 2: I don't know what new management I don't know, Major,
Speaker 2: I don't know. That was embarrassing shirts and all. So
Speaker 2: Major Tuddy is a pig and that's a take off
Speaker 2: the old Hogs. The offensive line, you're you're young. You
Speaker 2: was the offensive line with the Hogs. It was Jeff
Speaker 2: Bostick the center. You had Joe Jacobe at right tackle.
Speaker 2: Russ Grimm was guard there. Uh, George Stark was on
Speaker 2: the line. Was Riggs winning? Yes, he was? The Super
Speaker 2: Bowl SEVENTEENFL films, Yes, yes, yes, chip right, seventy chip right.
Speaker 2: I want to get by history right, let me hit
Speaker 2: the NFL films. I remember watching that. I remember watching
Speaker 2: that game. David Woodley was the quarterback for the Miami
Speaker 2: Dolphins that day. Game was at the Rose Bowl and
Speaker 2: Miami was leading, and then the second half they come back.
Speaker 2: It's a fourth down play they ran seventy chip gate
Speaker 2: a ball to John Riggins, and the whole thing was that, Hey, John,
Speaker 2: if they run the play right, Rigo should be left
Speaker 2: one on one with a defensive back and Joe Bugle.
Speaker 2: At the time, the offensive line coach on the NFL
Speaker 2: film said, look, if there's a defensive back against John Riggins, No,
Speaker 2: but defensive back of the league should be able to
Speaker 2: handle him. Sure enough, d Bat came up there, stiff
Speaker 2: arm boom, Rigo goes right down there and runs it
Speaker 2: in and the next thing you know, they go win
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Did They always used to have, you know, daytime Super
Speaker 4: Bowls back then. That feel like every time I watched
Speaker 4: NFL films, it's like it was during the date, the
Speaker 4: entire day, like the game was over by like.
Speaker 2: Five or something like that. Well, this game was the
Speaker 2: Rose Bowls, so those are going to start start around
Speaker 2: five and then the dust comes down, settles over the
Speaker 2: San Gabrielle Mountains and so that game ended at night.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot like the Raider of Super Bowl
Speaker 2: in Super Bowl eleven, which is the Rose bull that
Speaker 2: was during the day. But that was a different NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, this is this is not that. This is
Speaker 2: not the This is the NFL that was behind, way
Speaker 2: behind baseball and boxing. It was it was trying to
Speaker 2: make its way up to the climate. It's not the
Speaker 2: NFL today where you are running the whole day around
Speaker 2: whatever it is you want to do. That's different, man,
Speaker 2: It's different. It's different times. But that was the first
Speaker 2: to Joe Gibbson's three Super Bowls in Washington and with
Speaker 2: three different quarterbacks. But yes, the Hogs were something, believe
Speaker 2: it or not. You know, heck, you don't remember this church.
Speaker 2: Are you surprised if they don't have anybody in the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame off that offensive line?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: I mean you talk about the running game that they
Speaker 3: had with Rigo back then in how big the Hogs
Speaker 3: were during the eighties. To consu or that gibbs and
Speaker 3: those championship runs, that's that's kind of weird.
Speaker 2: That's the ones that did the little high five day.
Speaker 2: Thank God for NFL. I remember that time they did
Speaker 2: in Texas Stadium in zone Everson Walls. Then I'm not
Speaker 2: doing that. Not doing that in here, buds. That's that
Speaker 2: is the beauty of what what that used to be
Speaker 2: when they were both good.
Speaker 4: What's your top three nicknames for a group like you had?
Speaker 4: The fun Bunch was the Hogs.
Speaker 2: You know, there's still Curtains, Saxonville gotta be up there.
Speaker 2: The Jackson five, you know, Purple, the Purple People leaders,
Speaker 2: the Fearsome Forsome. That's a good one, l As Fearsome Foursome.
Speaker 2: You know, what were the Bears, Monsters, the Midway, Doomsday
Speaker 2: around here, leading boom, leading boom. That's a good one.
Speaker 3: I'm love it when everything starts with you, like Kobe.
Speaker 2: Sax and Saxonville. Ain't the top Saxonville in the time,
Speaker 2: top five? Got's five? Okay, let me let me the
Speaker 2: Jackson five. Come on. First of all, let me let.
Speaker 4: Me help you out what you got?
Speaker 2: The names we have? These are people have these things
Speaker 2: called rings. That's the first thing you are just going on.
Speaker 2: You need to get you a ring up in here
Speaker 2: to get your name. What you mean the greatest show
Speaker 2: on turf? Ring you got you can? You have a
Speaker 2: name and.
Speaker 3: Championshire great defense one time, one year, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Great no name defense. I mean they want to super
Speaker 2: Bowls with.
Speaker 6: No name, right, Saxophville saying, okay, so so so disrespect
Speaker 6: But did you all set the sack record?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Before what's the name? Blew it out? I think
Speaker 2: the Eagles destroyed because we had I think it was
Speaker 2: fifty five or fifty six. Yeah, no ring, no ring.
Speaker 2: That's facts. That is means, so you gotta you want
Speaker 2: a nickname and then and then your your team's your
Speaker 2: team's still young. But you also need some Hall of
Speaker 2: famers on it, you know, the fears and force, the
Speaker 2: man hall of famers. Purple People leaders didn't win a ring,
Speaker 2: but they went to four Super Bowls. They had some
Speaker 2: hall of fame. I mean, you got it. It's like
Speaker 2: what you're bringing on the Purple People. Heaters ain't handla ring. No,
Speaker 2: those four super Bowls. You gotta have a Hall of
Speaker 2: Famer or the rings. Rings all right, might get in there.
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see, we'll see he biking up. Hey.
Speaker 2: The way they letting people in the hall these days,
Speaker 2: no wishould say.
Speaker 3: The way they are keeping people out of the days
Speaker 3: they put Joe Cleco.
Speaker 2: In the Hall of Fame. I don't even know who
Speaker 2: that is, thank you, okay, Joe Cleco. I'm just like, well,
Speaker 2: what are we doing, guys? What're doing? I mean that
Speaker 2: new That New York bias is hard.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: I know people complaining about the Dallas bias, but man
Speaker 2: in New York bias is bad. I always tell people
Speaker 2: you have a the Dallas bias. You think you're still
Speaker 2: talking about cowboys who've won rings and cowboys who were
Speaker 2: part of a dominant usually team of the seventies or
Speaker 2: guys that were talking about putting in here were teams
Speaker 2: in the nighties. They're talking about some busters off the street. Joe,
Speaker 2: they didn't win those super bowls. I'm sorry, you know what,
Speaker 2: this is the time where I get.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 2: He had he angry, right, we didn't have sniggers and
Speaker 2: everything else. But okay, see, I would love to have
Speaker 2: coffee with your uncle Joe Green and eight. You know
Speaker 2: Joe Joe cleco in your day. No, no, no, he
Speaker 2: wasn't he the best player on that own defense. Mark
Speaker 2: Gastono was the best player on the Jet defense and
Speaker 2: just went nothing. But I think the most suggested might
Speaker 2: have gone to an AFSC championship game. I think that
Speaker 2: you got by Miami. But I mean we're not talking
Speaker 2: about no great I the Hall of Fame. Man about
Speaker 2: dudes hey I mentioned in Boom. I mean like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that guy, that guy. So you ain't a fan like
Speaker 2: of in on his.
Speaker 3: Don't see see that's we're not five hundred quarterbacks, five.
Speaker 2: Hundred quarterback Waite a couple five one hundred, five hundred.
Speaker 3: Do you not think he's getting in though? Look yes
Speaker 3: or no? Do you think he's not getting in?
Speaker 2: I think that once again the New York push Gary Myers,
Speaker 2: who used to work down here. Gary Myers is very big.
Speaker 2: He was very instrumental in getting Joe Klecko in. And
Speaker 2: now one of the things they talk about in the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame in Canton is there's these, I must say,
Speaker 2: like a political drive for guys where they're out there
Speaker 2: trying to push these people and they're trying to get
Speaker 2: other players to talking about like they went out there
Speaker 2: and got people like Anthony Munio's great offensive tackles to
Speaker 2: talking about how tough it was to block Joe Clecko. No,
Speaker 2: but this is what they're doing now. So so Rodney Harrison,
Speaker 2: love Rodney Harrison, Rodney Harrison, fantastic safety. They go get
Speaker 2: a guy like Bill Belichick to help him out. When
Speaker 2: Everson Wallas was up there, they went to Belichick and
Speaker 2: they went to Parcels, Hey, what can you tell us
Speaker 2: about Everson Walls. So there's campaigns now to try to
Speaker 2: get guys in. And depending on who's your presenter. Okay,
Speaker 2: so if Heckman's in the Hall of Fame, there's gonna
Speaker 2: be somebody in the Dallas market who presents Hecman. And
Speaker 2: they stood up here and they say, hey, this is
Speaker 2: that some of the people who are presenters now, they
Speaker 2: are doing blitzes all year long. They're offering up zoom
Speaker 2: calls with the player and former coaches. They are really
Speaker 2: trying to sell this thing. Pay ye el. And then
Speaker 2: when you have certain presenters who will go into I'll
Speaker 2: call it the sympathy card. Sam Mills, god Rest, Sam Mills,
Speaker 2: soul Phield Mouse. Sam Mills was on the final ballot,
Speaker 2: and one of the pushes was, hey, man, look, if
Speaker 2: you don't vote Sam Mills in now on this modern ballot,
Speaker 2: he gets kicked. He gets kicked over to the seniors committee.
Speaker 2: Then you never know because they're taking one senior year
Speaker 2: versus taking taking five modern day guys. And so here
Speaker 2: is basically what it came down to, DeMarcus Ware versus
Speaker 2: Sam Mills. And one of the voters that I know
Speaker 2: very well said he leaned more towards a player in
Speaker 2: the final year of eligibility, knowing that the other player,
Speaker 2: d Ware, still has multiple shots at getting in.
Speaker 4: So Zam never got to that senior where he because
Speaker 4: they put Sam in.
Speaker 2: It was it was the LA super Bowl. Sam Mills
Speaker 2: got in. D Ware did not he got in the
Speaker 2: next year, and so it was if you just sit
Speaker 2: who had a better career? We got him on a bout,
Speaker 2: We got Sam Mills on the ballot, we got de
Speaker 2: wear on the ballot. Who's better career? Dark the Marcus
Speaker 2: Ware Super Bowl champion sack All. But that was the
Speaker 2: politics it gets played. So when you talk about Eli Manning,
Speaker 2: there's a push from the New York people say, well,
Speaker 2: you know what, Eli won two Super Bowls against Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick and prevented Belichick's team from from an undefeated season.
Speaker 2: Now won those playoff games? I was there? Some runs? Yeah,
Speaker 2: run too? Pure Pierre after read this, Hey, hey, Jim
Speaker 2: Plunkett had two runs with Raiders. He did, Yes, he
Speaker 2: did at two run too?
Speaker 5: He did?
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I mean Joe Flago had a run
Speaker 2: he did. You know, Cats have some runs. Now it's
Speaker 2: like we sit run. Eli was a five on the
Speaker 2: quarterback man. He let the league get picked. I think
Speaker 2: that was the only thing he led the league. He
Speaker 2: never I don't he's never made All Pro. No on MVP,
Speaker 2: what do we do? Ken Anderson? Who you two younger?
Speaker 2: Remember Ken Anderson won an MVP led Cincinnati Super Bowl
Speaker 2: lost to the forty nine ers. But you talk about
Speaker 2: looking at a dude who went out there and bald
Speaker 2: and played, was in Cincinnati too, that guy. That guy
Speaker 2: has a resume for the Hall of Fame, but he's
Speaker 2: not getting in, but because well he played for the Giants.
Speaker 2: Eli Nah, bro, no, No, that's not Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: that's Hall of very good.
Speaker 4: So my thing with the singing thing, so if you
Speaker 4: don't make it in the ballots, your time is up.
Speaker 4: You go to this group of singers and only one
Speaker 4: per year, So I think, why, why why I even
Speaker 4: pool from that like that group of people. Why can't
Speaker 4: I just be like, man, you just didn't make it. No,
Speaker 4: because what you what you'd like to do and you
Speaker 4: want to do. And they do this in baseball as well.
Speaker 4: They want to say, you know what, man, we made
Speaker 4: a mistake.
Speaker 2: You were overlooked. For instance, Everson Walls has the resumeated
Speaker 2: B one, but he wasn't on the ballot for years.
Speaker 2: And from my knowledge of talking to people that the
Speaker 2: folks didn't and the Dallas were there, the media didn't
Speaker 2: do enough to say, hey, put this guy on the ballot.
Speaker 2: He won a Super Bowl with the Giants, and parcels,
Speaker 2: and I got like Gary Myers who covered the Cowboys
Speaker 2: and Everson Wallas and also covered the Giants. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like they they didn't put him up. Dallas spokes
Speaker 2: put him up, and he spend most of his time here.
Speaker 2: He had one ballot at the end, and unlike Sam Mills,
Speaker 2: nobody said, hey man, this is ever since last shot man,
Speaker 2: we need to go ahead and take care of He
Speaker 2: didn't get in, but you look at the numbers of
Speaker 2: people who are in the Hall, it's really shameful that
Speaker 2: he's not even in the Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor
Speaker 2: for how great of a player he is. It's tough,
Speaker 2: but you damn near need a champion now.
Speaker 3: Man, how do you feel how do you feel about
Speaker 3: the media ultimately or reporters and guys like that being
Speaker 3: the final say. If guys make it to the Hall
Speaker 3: instead of it actually coming from a pool of players
Speaker 3: or a pool of Hall of famers, are guys that
Speaker 3: played with those guys during those times, Because even when
Speaker 3: you talk about the senior members that game, maybe some
Speaker 3: of the guys that even played with them, that could
Speaker 3: even vouch for them, are no longer. I don't want
Speaker 3: to say around, but they're just not there to even
Speaker 3: back them up to the way that you would back
Speaker 3: up a dewear.
Speaker 2: They have some players now, they do have the community
Speaker 2: does have some players on there and to coach, so
Speaker 2: that has changed. They they they've widened it, but it's
Speaker 2: still the majority of the media. Look going to the
Speaker 2: baseball Okay, a different sport, but people, guys will tell
Speaker 2: you the seniors on baseball they the hardest ones on
Speaker 2: the players, much more tougher than the media. There were
Speaker 2: a bunch of like that dude didn't do enough here.
Speaker 2: I mean they are hard, softality, little you know, a
Speaker 2: little little personal beast and all that. I mean they
Speaker 2: baseball dudes are the hardest guys around. Man Is Rolls
Speaker 2: never gonna be able to get in. That's a hold up,
Speaker 2: don't go, don't go. The whole different. But it is
Speaker 2: it just because of the betting or his numbers won't
Speaker 2: even because of it? Yes, because of the betting, but no, no, no,
Speaker 2: there's no no. It's the cardinal sin of baseball. Back
Speaker 2: in nineteen nineteen, they almost shut the sport down because
Speaker 2: they were cheated. It was a scandal. Okay, so these
Speaker 2: numbers were cheating. No, no, no, no, no, I'm just
Speaker 2: telling what they did the sport. Okay, they rigged the
Speaker 2: World Series got rigged. Okay, they shut the sport down.
Speaker 2: So they instituted a thing that basically said, there's no
Speaker 2: betting on baseball. It's in every locker room, everywhere you go.
Speaker 2: Rule number one. Don't gamble on this game. You gamble
Speaker 2: on this game, you get put out for life. Pete
Speaker 2: Rose did it? Gone for life? Put him in the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. No, they said, you broke the rule. Now,
Speaker 2: certain people said, well, man, what he did as a
Speaker 2: player doesn't matter. You are a manager, and if anything,
Speaker 2: to me as a manager, that made it even more
Speaker 2: damn So he was he was betting when he was
Speaker 2: a manager, not a player. Yes, oh well to our knowledge, yes,
Speaker 2: that's what he's admitted to and that's what that is,
Speaker 2: what the facts showed. But as a manager, okay, So Barry,
Speaker 2: you're you're my reliever, all right, So I pitched you
Speaker 2: three days in a row. You probably need a four
Speaker 2: day off, but damn it, I just bet this game, Barry.
Speaker 2: I need you to go. On my arm tired, I
Speaker 2: need you to go. You can get hurt people. A
Speaker 2: man you always bet his team to win, and so
Speaker 2: you can't mess with the integrity of the game like that.
Speaker 2: The steroids that becomes Actually, I heard that was what
Speaker 2: kept Rodney Harrison no, because Rodney admitted he did it,
Speaker 2: so that that kept him out. But I ain't mm
Speaker 2: hm so so we'll see. But but at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, this is a sport that forever in
Speaker 2: the day, everybody it's like they look the other way.
Speaker 2: In baseball, they still use it against people in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Will see, but there's a lot of dudes juiced up
Speaker 2: in the league.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think the Barry Bonds cases that
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. The McGuire's McGuire, yeah, Sosa is
Speaker 3: none of the Roy guys got in. That's tough. And
Speaker 3: to me, you're talking about a guy that was doing
Speaker 3: it before all the scandal. So and Barry career before
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame career, before the whole steroids.
Speaker 2: Seven MV before he started before that. Yeah, so what
Speaker 2: Bonds ban you you in Pittsburgh, you know you were
Speaker 2: a baby did what years did he playing? I won't
Speaker 2: worry about it when you're saying when you talk about
Speaker 2: if you ever did your Hey, who you're starting nine
Speaker 2: fairy Bonds is in that conversation. You're starting nine best
Speaker 2: players in baseball history. He's in the conversation, like all around,
Speaker 2: he was just a great hitter, but all around five
Speaker 2: to play. He could do it. He could throw, he
Speaker 2: could hit, he could run. The dude was a monster. Man,
Speaker 2: he was a monster. And I'll say this. You know,
Speaker 2: you can talk about the steroids all day long, and
Speaker 2: people do because they definitely have the ball go further.
Speaker 2: But you still got to hit him hand. You're watching
Speaker 2: that dude. Take Greg Maddox. Now, there's a video if
Speaker 2: you go look it up on social media. It's fantastic.
Speaker 2: It's Greg Maddox and Barry Bonds talking about in it
Speaker 2: back Greg maddics is one to be best pictures we've
Speaker 2: ever seen. And the chess match between them and Bond's
Speaker 2: beats it and he's like, yeah, you can't come into
Speaker 2: the wheelhouse two times and just he's a tremendous hitter
Speaker 2: and just a fantastic player. But the Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: right now, and Darren Woodson to the Cowboys is up
Speaker 2: one more time. This is Las Go No, No, It's
Speaker 2: not the last go. But you know, Wood, he's up
Speaker 2: against Rodney Harris. It's very hard to get safeties in
Speaker 2: defensive there's more offensive players and defensive players, and defensive
Speaker 2: backs have tougher times to get in. So it's going
Speaker 2: to be a challenge to see where it goes. I mean,
Speaker 2: when they started asking like so to Bill Belichick and
Speaker 2: Bill Parcells had heavy sway with the heavy sway, Belichick
Speaker 2: is definitely down for Ridney Harris. But then this is
Speaker 2: where you kind of come back and you hope with
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson and the Troyman and you know, people like that,
Speaker 2: and then I wish you, I wish you take two safeties.
Speaker 2: But when you get into the room like that, Dave
Speaker 2: will just take one here, will take one there. Adam
Speaker 2: Vinattieri's up. You know, clutch kicker. When you talk about
Speaker 2: greatest kickers of all time, if you ain't calling his name,
Speaker 2: it ain't gonna take long until you get to it.
Speaker 2: Clutch kicks super bowls and everything on two Super Bowls
Speaker 2: with different teams. I mean, so where do you go
Speaker 2: but he's the first time or do you make him
Speaker 2: a first ballot guy? Do you make him wait? Because
Speaker 2: some people view. I hear the word first ballot a lot,
Speaker 2: and I just don't believe that's the case for a
Speaker 2: lot of players.
Speaker 3: How many get in with five a time, five ago usually,
Speaker 3: but Darren Wilson not being in it's been upsetting for
Speaker 3: the organization.
Speaker 2: People that don't remember Darren Wilson.
Speaker 3: It's not enough to say how good he was coming
Speaker 3: out of college a linebacker converted to safety. I mean
Speaker 3: the way did he fit into an already good defense.
Speaker 3: He was the piece, Like he was that one guy
Speaker 3: that you could put down in the box and you
Speaker 3: knew exactly what Darren Wilson was going to do.
Speaker 2: That is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like his ability like stretch, the fit, leverage, all the
Speaker 3: things that he played with Barry, like come on, and
Speaker 3: it gets to the point it's like what else did
Speaker 3: he need to do? What else did he need to
Speaker 3: add to his career that would have made it any better?
Speaker 3: You've seen guys. When Steve Atwater got in to me,
Speaker 3: I was like, Woody, that's a rat, because you were
Speaker 3: thinking like either one eight, one B one of those
Speaker 3: guys would have to go first. But when Atwater went in,
Speaker 3: it was almost like guaranteed we would see Darren Woodson
Speaker 3: go in.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad you mentioned it. And this is the
Speaker 2: other part of the game behind the game. Steve Atwater
Speaker 2: went in, and there's always been a contingent. And I
Speaker 2: know some of the guys from Denver who feel like
Speaker 2: they've never been able to get the proper representation for
Speaker 2: their franchise. And Steve was on the two Super Bowl teams.
Speaker 2: Great player at his time, he was the heck of
Speaker 2: a safety man. He was a really good player, and
Speaker 2: it was kind of like, hey man, we need to
Speaker 2: start getting our guys in. Randy Gratishar got in last
Speaker 2: year to young remember you remember Grandy Gratishar was a
Speaker 2: part of that Orange Crush defense played the first Super
Speaker 2: Bowl to Bowl twelve did the Cowboys beat very good player.
Speaker 2: And they had been trying to get Randy in for
Speaker 2: years and they felt there was a bias folks in
Speaker 2: Minnesota will Tape man, there's a bias that we're not
Speaker 2: getting people in. And now those folks and this is
Speaker 2: where Woody gets hurt. They feel like there has been
Speaker 2: an overload of Cowboys getting in, like these guys are
Speaker 2: always getting in and he is going to start to
Speaker 2: pay the price for some of that because they're like,
Speaker 2: how many how many cowboys keep getting in? You're putting
Speaker 2: in intomarcus where you're putting in a Everson, Drew Pearson,
Speaker 2: you put in a clip Harris. I mean, you start
Speaker 2: to look at the last ten years for cowboys that
Speaker 2: got in. People have issues, and that stuff gets used
Speaker 2: against you. Believe me, they start horse trading these boats.
Speaker 3: But guys, those guys that you just mentioned Harris and Pearson,
Speaker 3: they had to wait, They had to wait.
Speaker 2: And these were guys we're talking about Darren Woodson, these.
Speaker 3: Other guys that had to wait, that were really, really good,
Speaker 3: that had to wait until the two thousands to get in.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying you're wrong, Okay, for for for
Speaker 2: Drew Pearson to be first team on nineteen seventies and
Speaker 2: wait like that. Then when they had the expanded list
Speaker 2: and they gonna throw Harold Carmichael in before him and
Speaker 2: Harold Carmichael's second team, that's wild, but they made it right.
Speaker 2: But I'm just telling you, in that room, there's that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff there. And then you started looking at
Speaker 2: some of the names. Antonio Gates is on this list.
Speaker 2: He Toyo Gates. He was a guy that's a Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. Yeah yeah, so so so he wasn't first battle,
Speaker 2: but then you know he ain't. Wow no, so so
Speaker 2: right there, that's five. That's now four, right, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: think he's there for sure. I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's a heck of a list. It always is. Heines Ward,
Speaker 2: hines Ward's super Bowl MVP. Does heines Ward get out?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: James Harrison, former NFL Defensive Player of the Year. Basically, man,
Speaker 2: if your NFL defenseivevie, they don't even put you in there,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be an NBA MVP, You're gonna get in
Speaker 2: the Basketball Hall of Fame. That's true. James is a
Speaker 2: two time Super Bowl champion. Defense played at me hard
Speaker 2: to keep people like that out? What was different? How?
Speaker 3: How is what was different? But man, I don't see
Speaker 3: a career like that, a career like that. It's hard
Speaker 3: to speak on the guy.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm talking about is Woody, you know, and
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Speaker 2: Let's get our first broke, our first break here, come back.
Speaker 2: I'll give you some of the names. Some of them
Speaker 2: you know very well. Uh and you probably you think
Speaker 2: you play with a couple of these guys too. So
Speaker 2: I'm just giving you your first thoughts and be like,
Speaker 2: you know, I want to give you your first reaction. Yes, no, yes, no,
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Speaker 2: we were talking about the Hall of Pro Football, Hall
Speaker 2: of It, and here you're here, are your your semi finals?
Speaker 2: All right? They're fighting for five spots, Okay. Eric Allen
Speaker 2: former UH former defensive back, Jared Allen, former defensive player,
Speaker 2: Willie Anderson now standing off to tackle, and Kwan Bolden,
Speaker 2: the receiver who spent a lot of years with the
Speaker 2: Ravens and Cardinals. Jarry Evans, super Bowl winner with the Saints.
Speaker 2: Austin Antonio Gates, fantastic player with the charge the tight end,
Speaker 2: Bridney Harrison, former defensive Player of the Year, two Super
Speaker 2: Bowl wins with the Steelers, Rodney Harrison to Super Bowls
Speaker 2: with the Patriots, and safety Tory Hult super Bowl champion
Speaker 2: with the greatest show on turf of the Rams. Luke Keighley,
Speaker 2: former defensive player and UH fantastic line Carol you doing
Speaker 2: what do you do? He played like seven year He
Speaker 2: ended it quick. Luke had a shorter career. Was he
Speaker 2: the player of the year, Yes, he was. Eli Manning
Speaker 2: two times Super Bowl champion. Robert Mathis defensive end and
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion with the Colts. Steve Smith Jr. Played
Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl with Carolina. They ended up losing
Speaker 2: to Rodney Harrison's Patriots team. Terrell Suggs super Bowl champion,
Speaker 2: two times Super Bowl champion year right, No, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but definitely one of the greatest sackers of all time.
Speaker 2: Fred Taylor outstanding running back out of Jacksonerville that a
Speaker 2: lot of people think because he played in Jacksonville is
Speaker 2: not given his just Duke. We talk about safeties, You
Speaker 2: want to talk about a safeties really got some amazing credentials.
Speaker 2: It is Earl Thomas who was with the leagues in
Speaker 2: the boom, played it to Super Bowl. He was a
Speaker 2: fan folastic safety. Adam benet Tieri. Some people say the
Speaker 2: greatest field goal kicker of all time. Heinz Warden super
Speaker 2: Bowl winner and Super Bowl MVP super forty That is
Speaker 2: Ricky Waters won Super Bowls with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Uh very Richmond Webb outstanding offensive from Roosevelt High School
Speaker 2: they played at played for the Dolphins, Vince Wilford, another
Speaker 2: super Bowl champion with the Page. They are packed. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be tough. Oh my goodness. Steve Wisnowski outstanding offensive
Speaker 2: lineman with the Raiders, Darren Woodson uh three times super
Speaker 2: Bowl champion with the Cowboys. And Marshall Jandon, a former
Speaker 2: super Bowl champion with the with the Ravens. I mean,
Speaker 2: Tony is already in. Tony's already in. That's Fred's tackle.
Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne, you know another great player. You know, just
Speaker 2: it's hard. I mean, you know what, Wayne Man.
Speaker 4: The greatest showan territory and there Isaac's in there, right man,
Speaker 4: There's a lot of names on the run.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm kind of torn, and you only can
Speaker 2: take five.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of torn, man, because like I don't know,
Speaker 4: because what's the name made in there yet?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Sterling? Sharp Sterling is not and Shannon is in Sterling
Speaker 2: by the way, we're talking about Sucks two times Super
Speaker 2: Bowl Champion, defensive players and Defensive Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 2: Sizzles a fantastic player, man, you know it's Earl Thomas
Speaker 2: is going to be a fascinating It's gonna be a
Speaker 2: tough one fascinating discussion because when you're talking about the
Speaker 2: safeties between Rodney, Harrison, Woody and Earl Thomas, you know.
Speaker 4: Earl's got the least of the Super Bowl wins, least
Speaker 4: of the Super Bowl wins, most controversy off the field,
Speaker 4: but you're talking.
Speaker 2: About Pro Bowl just the Pro Bowls, I mean the rolls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the presence that he was on the field, Like
Speaker 3: you got to take a lot of that off the
Speaker 3: field stuff and just put in between the white lines.
Speaker 2: He was that it was mashup nightmare.
Speaker 3: Got a great tackle even though he was under considered
Speaker 3: undersized a little bit.
Speaker 2: He was Yeah, he was a thumper.
Speaker 4: He was real man and he had he was a
Speaker 4: part of one of those defenses that had that name,
Speaker 4: that nickname. Well, I know Woodson was in part of
Speaker 4: those three Super Bowls, but were any of those defenses
Speaker 4: like man, the first defense was in Super Bowl twenty seven.
Speaker 4: That was the number one defensive.
Speaker 2: Lake so they had Okay, so he was part of
Speaker 2: a cold defense.
Speaker 4: So that's gonna be that safety room. It's gonna be tucking.
Speaker 4: Rodney was cold and was it San Diego?
Speaker 2: Well he was doing then he went to the Patriots
Speaker 2: and got the man like he was. He was cold man,
Speaker 2: and so that's you know, so that and then you got,
Speaker 2: like I want to say, Earl Thomas is all decade,
Speaker 2: I think you Woody. Woody was not All first team
Speaker 2: all decade. I every think Butler got that ahead of him.
Speaker 2: So I mean, these are you going, You're gonna have
Speaker 2: to start to dive into the Okay, all decades, all pros,
Speaker 2: and that's where I look at what I look at
Speaker 2: just when you start to go to that next level.
Speaker 2: Eli Manning, it's no way he makes it. Yeah, five
Speaker 2: hundred record, no, no, no all Pros, no MVPs. You
Speaker 2: had two great playoff runs. They were good, but two
Speaker 2: great playoff runs to put Jim plugge it in with
Speaker 2: the Raiders. Yes, Eli, super Bowling. It's it's going to
Speaker 2: be a fascinating conferensation when I'm talking about it.
Speaker 4: It's Keithley though, y'all just for sure, like you know,
Speaker 4: first ballad boom, he's in there.
Speaker 2: I know he was nice. Not with this list, Yes,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. I know he was unreal. And
Speaker 2: if he.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't have got, you know, the concussion problems, he probably
Speaker 4: would probably still be playing out here putting up unreal numbers.
Speaker 2: Stop. But do you think he's the first mass Stop?
Speaker 9: Was that boy?
Speaker 2: He was like he was cold?
Speaker 11: He was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm talking about this as a tackler, sideline
Speaker 3: in telling his football I Q all around. He was
Speaker 3: a He's a mad man. He was somebody you had
Speaker 3: to He was just so disruptive.
Speaker 2: You come up.
Speaker 3: You couldn't even get your running game going with Luke
Speaker 3: Keickley on the field.
Speaker 2: Bro, here's maybe this, Maybe I'll make it better for
Speaker 2: you this way. Luke Keickley was what Seawan Lee. He's
Speaker 2: more a little healthier Sail is a Sean Lee is
Speaker 2: a b Luke Keiley is in a when you talk
Speaker 2: about what that kind of play, and we saw what
Speaker 2: Sean Lee meant here with Sean Lee wasn't but it
Speaker 2: was problem so thinking he's a B player, Luke Kegley's
Speaker 2: a player. Yeah, and and played in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 10: I mean good.
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, Luke was fantastic player. I mean so.
Speaker 2: But the conversation first time, that's what with this many
Speaker 2: guys here, I think it's going to be hard. Knowing
Speaker 2: we talked about it before. We're guys out here on
Speaker 2: the list, how how how long do they have to wait?
Speaker 2: It may be a tough call for Luke Keigley to
Speaker 2: get in there based.
Speaker 4: On he reminds me of the process career wise. Who
Speaker 4: had a real short one but it's in the hall now?
Speaker 5: Was it?
Speaker 2: Patrick Willis? Yeah, who had a short career. He's a
Speaker 2: Terrell Davis, Davis short career. You know, I was there
Speaker 2: when when when when TD went in and I had
Speaker 2: many conversations with him about that as well. It's it's
Speaker 2: a challenge, man, it's a challenge. So Luke Keigley defensive
Speaker 2: Player of the Year in twenty twelve, I mean, I
Speaker 2: mean twenty defensive player of the Year in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: He was the Rookie of the Year in twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Think about that back the rookie next year. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be I'm gonna win the whole thing. That's pretty wilds.
Speaker 2: But you want some guys to be around me here?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but yeah, so so it's it's I just
Speaker 2: think it's going to be a challenge for him to
Speaker 2: uh to get in. But at some point in time,
Speaker 2: you know, pretty much, man, if you went defensive player
Speaker 2: you're getting You're going to get a gold jacket. You
Speaker 2: got it. It becomes the win. And with this list
Speaker 2: of guys, there's certain people and I know who vote
Speaker 2: in the room, like hey man, if this guy had
Speaker 2: to wait, this would need to wait. So so like
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, man, is this is this Woody's last
Speaker 2: real life? Like no, no, no shot. But because the
Speaker 2: next when does Tom come up? When is Tom?
Speaker 4: He's and he still got like I think three years,
Speaker 4: still got three. I think he got to years left.
Speaker 10: And I understand by the way Willis was not a
Speaker 10: first bout Hall of Famer. You realize that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Patrick was. Patrick Rakowski's is about to start coming around.
Speaker 2: So it starts to becoming We saw this when Michael
Speaker 2: Irvan was going. It becomes a line and then it
Speaker 2: becomes how do you break the line. For a while
Speaker 2: it was the line of receivers. So was it's like
Speaker 2: Chris Carter and Andre Reed and Tim Brown and Michael
Speaker 2: Irban and Brown was like the last you do to
Speaker 2: get in. He was hot because he was like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm a return guy too. So so you start looking
Speaker 2: at the safety room right now. Okay, So if you
Speaker 2: if you're looking at you. You're looking at three safties,
Speaker 2: so it's likely you will only take one between and
Speaker 2: you're lucky because it's no corner, so over corners. So
Speaker 2: who's the one? Is it Earld Thomas? Is it Woody?
Speaker 2: Is it Rodney Harrison? Then you got Sherman about to
Speaker 2: start start coming around corner. But right now we're just
Speaker 2: looking safe. Said you got three safeties that you say,
Speaker 2: hey man, all these guys, if you're only choosing one,
Speaker 2: I mean you.
Speaker 3: Got them, Woody, Woody, come home, stop playing. Yeah he
Speaker 3: got more super Bowls?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Do they do?
Speaker 2: They take the numbers into and I saying, then this
Speaker 2: is the thing and I've got to go look at Okay,
Speaker 2: so hecknan, we can look at super Bowls. Now, let's
Speaker 2: go look at all decade. Let's go look at number
Speaker 2: of all pros and Pro Bowls, you know those other
Speaker 2: things that come in there. And then just ultimately too
Speaker 2: it comes out, who is if HECMA is making the
Speaker 2: case for Barry Church, how convincing and how good is
Speaker 2: Hecma's case. Because we're at the end, So Hecman's going
Speaker 2: to present and then we all go sit around here.
Speaker 2: We're gonna dicuss. We go shoot as many holes in
Speaker 2: there as we can. But he's got to do this
Speaker 2: job to show us what way this is what you
Speaker 2: may not know what wood he did that that that
Speaker 2: that that that that that that that's that becomes convincing.
Speaker 2: You were trying to convince someone of why So you
Speaker 2: mean that someone on the counter poking holes in why
Speaker 2: you shouldn't make it? Yes a man Oh, I already
Speaker 2: know somebody right now is ready to go to war,
Speaker 2: Like who's the person that's poking holes in it? Yeah? No,
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Speaker 2: All right, Brandon Cooks could play this weekend. Brandon Cooks
Speaker 2: is available. Ceedee Lamb is out there. Take ferguson. Don't
Speaker 2: expect him to play a schoolmaker out there. We feel
Speaker 2: about the past game still gonna be, It's gonna be now.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough, man.
Speaker 4: I mean, because you look at the offensive line at
Speaker 4: that point and who's available on the offensive line. If
Speaker 4: you're talking about Zach Martin maybe out and Tyler Smith,
Speaker 4: who's you know, your best offensive line may be best
Speaker 4: offensive player.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough, especially going against a guy like DQ.
Speaker 2: And we know what he loves to do. He loves
Speaker 2: to run those games.
Speaker 4: He loves to confuse the offensive lineman out there, and
Speaker 4: he has the pieces to do so.
Speaker 2: I know the one Bamba boy, he ain't gonna be playing.
Speaker 2: But you still got foul on the outside.
Speaker 4: You still got uh I was Dora's armstrong on the outside,
Speaker 4: and you still got belief, sweat, not not sweating out.
Speaker 2: He gone right.
Speaker 4: You got some cats over there either way, So whoa
Speaker 4: they better jaws some stuff to get the handball out
Speaker 4: of a Cooper rush hands pretty fast. But from Cooks,
Speaker 4: I'm getting back out there. I gotta put that tape out.
Speaker 4: You gotta put that tape out there. I'm trying to
Speaker 4: get another deal.
Speaker 3: You look at those games, those Pittsburgh games, and what
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh did is they didn't change their DNA at all.
Speaker 3: They met, they put that line of scrimmage together and
Speaker 3: they ran at this defense. They knew exactly how to
Speaker 3: get the win. That's the one thing that you say
Speaker 3: about this Cowboys team. If they pull out the win,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be the ultimate team victory because gonna it's
Speaker 3: gonna take everybody to get this done. The running game
Speaker 3: has been non existent through ten weeks, and the only
Speaker 3: way that you could beat this.
Speaker 2: Team literally is to run the ball.
Speaker 3: You throw the ball fifty five times in this game
Speaker 3: versus Washington, it's gonna be a disaster. Like somebody's gonna gem.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a disaster because that's the way that
Speaker 3: the Commanders defenses is put together. They don't obviously they
Speaker 3: want you to think that the back end is a
Speaker 3: weakness so they can send those guys after you with
Speaker 3: those games and stunts like you just talked about. Man,
Speaker 3: when we get an opportunity to talk about this offense,
Speaker 3: I'm Jayde Daniels and that's the biggest in my opinion.
Speaker 3: Washington has been bad long enough to finally get a
Speaker 3: program changer, and he may be the one guy. And
Speaker 3: I may have underestimated him too coming out of LSU,
Speaker 3: but he looks like the guy that's going to be
Speaker 3: a problem for a number of years. We've talked about
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, but Jayde and Daniels is something completely different. Obviously,
Speaker 3: like any other quarterback, they don't like to be touched
Speaker 3: in and sacked and those start some of the errors
Speaker 3: that he has. He had the real injury kind of
Speaker 3: earlier in the season. But I look at him as
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson would touch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that one. I agree with
Speaker 2: that one. Everything you said is right. But we've seen
Speaker 2: this before in Washington RG three. He different than him, though,
Speaker 2: But this is my thing. I got to do this
Speaker 2: hit with those guys in Washington tomorrow. Show me you
Speaker 2: can do it again. Because one thing we know in
Speaker 2: his league, these coordinators, man, they're gonna get after it
Speaker 2: and they're gonna figure you out. And I think the
Speaker 2: young man, I think the young man is a fantastic pick,
Speaker 2: and I think he's what you're saying. He can be
Speaker 2: a player for a number of years. But man, over
Speaker 2: time that that to be is is the test. Can
Speaker 2: you do this thing again? We thought c J. Strout,
Speaker 2: I didn't play fantasy football this year, but I thought,
Speaker 2: t's gonna next level. It's hard, which goes to show
Speaker 2: you to me why Lamar Jackson is not respected more
Speaker 2: than he is to go win two m vps and
Speaker 2: do what he's doing year after. It's hard, man, it
Speaker 2: is hard. Kyler Murray, I thought, heck, you saw Kyler
Speaker 2: Murray play in high school a whole lot here unbelievable career.
Speaker 2: I thought, Kyler Murray is gonna go really be a guy.
Speaker 2: And it's been a challenge because they start to figure
Speaker 2: you out in his league. But Jaylen, the Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 2: has done an out standing job with him. But you
Speaker 2: know that's I'm gonna see, man, because the RG three
Speaker 2: RG three thing taught me, Show me and keep doing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, different, different offense, and I think Cliff Kingsbury people
Speaker 3: are gonna start talking talking about him at the end
Speaker 3: of the year.
Speaker 2: It's we talk about resurgence. Yeah, I would. It's funny.
Speaker 2: Hack Man had the conversation over here with what good buddy,
Speaker 2: I said, no, because he's a Bears fanly Man kingsb said,
Speaker 2: it's coordinator and I like Cliff personally.
Speaker 12: I do.
Speaker 2: I do Cliff and not get along. Great North Turner
Speaker 2: was a coordinator. Yeah, nobody you talk about one of
Speaker 2: the great offensive coordinators and guys in this league's history.
Speaker 2: Nor look at the running backs. Everybody got a whole
Speaker 2: nor Man shun. I mean, North was a fantastic Troy
Speaker 2: Troy had nor present him at the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: That's how much he changed his career.
Speaker 3: All Cliff needs is if they have the ultimate success
Speaker 3: in Washington, far run into the playoffs, backs it up
Speaker 3: because you're talking about C. J. Stroud and the South
Speaker 3: More slum Jaydon Daniels comes back and he's even better
Speaker 3: in his second stint. I'm telling you, I mean, you're
Speaker 3: not going to be because that's what the thing the
Speaker 3: NFL is missing on those brain trusts. Those guys that
Speaker 3: can draw it up, dial it up. And you see
Speaker 3: when guys hire these defensive minded coaches and they're having
Speaker 3: to bring it, how much trouble you have come up
Speaker 3: and look at it. Look no further than New York.
Speaker 3: You're not having any success hiring these defensive guys. You
Speaker 3: need a guy like the one you got in Detroit
Speaker 3: right now, who's the offensive coordinator. As on everybody short
Speaker 3: list to be a head coach, the NFL will have
Speaker 3: a very selective memory when it comes down to a
Speaker 3: guy that can play call.
Speaker 2: And I would present Josh McDaniels and some of these
Speaker 2: guys will play callers, but they're not the leaders of men,
Speaker 2: and that's where you can get into trouble. Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 2: and when he was coaching at Texas Tech, I mean
Speaker 2: they never had a defense. They could put up offensive
Speaker 2: numbers and went to Arizona. It's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 2: I do think there's a difference in those guys who
Speaker 2: just called like nor call some great plays, but running
Speaker 2: the whole thing. Sean McVay is a little bit different.
Speaker 2: Sean McVay actually and obviously got Wade helping him out
Speaker 2: at first, but Sean McVay showing you can be leader
Speaker 2: of men and run the team. The dude and the
Speaker 2: dude with the Charger Chargers, but the dude with Cincinnati
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, call plays you know, head coach. He's gonna be
Speaker 3: going anywhere. So brother, trust he wouldn't be what.
Speaker 2: Sold brother about to be back in old brother man soul.
Speaker 2: Brother gonna be old brother, soul. Brother ain't old brother,
Speaker 2: ain't cutting it man cutting the soul coming back. Somebody
Speaker 2: gonna realize, Oh he's black. Oh it's time to go.
Speaker 2: Hold on, you ain't gonna be here the ball right uh,
Speaker 2: Commanders Joe Jr. Commander's thirty seven, oh thirty seven right
Speaker 2: down there he commander Commandos the man Manos thirty seven, Dallas.
Speaker 3: Thirteen thirteen, Dan remember for thirty seven. You're coming for
Speaker 3: his picture. So do we have to go on to
Speaker 3: the d m N to get your your picks? Are
Speaker 3: you gonna you go send them over? Hommie?
Speaker 2: You just in the check in the chat. We are
Speaker 2: not going looking for your picks. Just don't me a
Speaker 2: little chat? I mean, why not? Can give give your
Speaker 2: brother a click? Brother? Click? I got the very church
Speaker 2: instructs players lines They'll be here tomorrow, I won't
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