WEBVTT - Players Lounge: Poking Holes

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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<v Speaker 1>Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scrugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Players Lounge here on a Thursday, going into a Sunday game.

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<v Speaker 2>Short week for the Cowboys that go take on the

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<v Speaker 2>Players Lounge with heck Ma Harrison, former Cowboys safety Barry Church.

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<v Speaker 3>Get it all for Thursday Thursday, beautiful weatherson Here at

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<v Speaker 3>the Star, Cowboys are outside practice, get ready for the.

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<v Speaker 2>For the game up there. Good unders, good luck to

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<v Speaker 2>all the Cowboy fans rolling on up there. The FedEx

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<v Speaker 2>Field seats won't be as easy to get this time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something in love with their team again, right?

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<v Speaker 3>What was the It's not a pig, but what what

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<v Speaker 3>their mascot?

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<v Speaker 2>What is his name again? Commanded Sergeant Tuddy's still a

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<v Speaker 2>big that's still a thing, right, So right? I think

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what new management I don't know, Major,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That was embarrassing shirts and all. So

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<v Speaker 2>Major Tuddy is a pig and that's a take off

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<v Speaker 2>the old Hogs. The offensive line, you're you're young. You

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<v Speaker 2>was the offensive line with the Hogs. It was Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>Bostick the center. You had Joe Jacobe at right tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>Russ Grimm was guard there. Uh, George Stark was on

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<v Speaker 2>the line. Was Riggs winning? Yes, he was? The Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl SEVENTEENFL films, Yes, yes, yes, chip right, seventy chip right.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get by history right, let me hit

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL films. I remember watching that. I remember watching

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<v Speaker 2>that game. David Woodley was the quarterback for the Miami

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<v Speaker 2>Dolphins that day. Game was at the Rose Bowl and

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<v Speaker 2>Miami was leading, and then the second half they come back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fourth down play they ran seventy chip gate

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<v Speaker 2>a ball to John Riggins, and the whole thing was that, Hey, John,

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<v Speaker 2>if they run the play right, Rigo should be left

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<v Speaker 2>one on one with a defensive back and Joe Bugle.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, the offensive line coach on the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>film said, look, if there's a defensive back against John Riggins, No,

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<v Speaker 2>but defensive back of the league should be able to

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<v Speaker 2>handle him. Sure enough, d Bat came up there, stiff

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<v Speaker 2>arm boom, Rigo goes right down there and runs it

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<v Speaker 2>in and the next thing you know, they go win

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Did They always used to have, you know, daytime Super

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<v Speaker 4>Bowls back then. That feel like every time I watched

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<v Speaker 4>NFL films, it's like it was during the date, the

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<v Speaker 4>entire day, like the game was over by like.

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<v Speaker 2>Five or something like that. Well, this game was the

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<v Speaker 2>Rose Bowls, so those are going to start start around

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<v Speaker 2>five and then the dust comes down, settles over the

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<v Speaker 2>San Gabrielle Mountains and so that game ended at night.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, a lot like the Raider of Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>in Super Bowl eleven, which is the Rose bull that

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<v Speaker 2>was during the day. But that was a different NFL. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is this is not that. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not the This is the NFL that was behind, way

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<v Speaker 2>behind baseball and boxing. It was it was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make its way up to the climate. It's not the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL today where you are running the whole day around

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is you want to do. That's different, man,

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<v Speaker 2>It's different. It's different times. But that was the first

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<v Speaker 2>to Joe Gibbson's three Super Bowls in Washington and with

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<v Speaker 2>three different quarterbacks. But yes, the Hogs were something, believe

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<v Speaker 2>it or not. You know, heck, you don't remember this church.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you surprised if they don't have anybody in the

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame off that offensive line?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you talk about the running game that they

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<v Speaker 3>had with Rigo back then in how big the Hogs

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<v Speaker 3>were during the eighties. To consu or that gibbs and

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<v Speaker 3>those championship runs, that's that's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the ones that did the little high five day.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank God for NFL. I remember that time they did

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<v Speaker 2>in Texas Stadium in zone Everson Walls. Then I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>doing that. Not doing that in here, buds. That's that

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<v Speaker 2>is the beauty of what what that used to be

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<v Speaker 2>when they were both good.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your top three nicknames for a group like you had?

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<v Speaker 4>The fun Bunch was the Hogs.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's still Curtains, Saxonville gotta be up there.

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<v Speaker 2>The Jackson five, you know, Purple, the Purple People leaders,

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<v Speaker 2>the Fearsome Forsome. That's a good one, l As Fearsome Foursome.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what were the Bears, Monsters, the Midway, Doomsday

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<v Speaker 2>around here, leading boom, leading boom. That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm love it when everything starts with you, like Kobe.

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<v Speaker 2>Sax and Saxonville. Ain't the top Saxonville in the time,

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<v Speaker 2>top five? Got's five? Okay, let me let me the

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson five. Come on. First of all, let me let.

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<v Speaker 4>Me help you out what you got?

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<v Speaker 2>The names we have? These are people have these things

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<v Speaker 2>called rings. That's the first thing you are just going on.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to get you a ring up in here

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<v Speaker 2>to get your name. What you mean the greatest show

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<v Speaker 2>on turf? Ring you got you can? You have a

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<v Speaker 2>name and.

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<v Speaker 3>Championshire great defense one time, one year, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Great no name defense. I mean they want to super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowls with.

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<v Speaker 6>No name, right, Saxophville saying, okay, so so so disrespect

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<v Speaker 6>But did you all set the sack record?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Before what's the name? Blew it out? I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles destroyed because we had I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five or fifty six. Yeah, no ring, no ring.

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<v Speaker 2>That's facts. That is means, so you gotta you want

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<v Speaker 2>a nickname and then and then your your team's your

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<v Speaker 2>team's still young. But you also need some Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>famers on it, you know, the fears and force, the

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<v Speaker 2>man hall of famers. Purple People leaders didn't win a ring,

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<v Speaker 2>but they went to four Super Bowls. They had some

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<v Speaker 2>hall of fame. I mean, you got it. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>what you're bringing on the Purple People. Heaters ain't handla ring. No,

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<v Speaker 2>those four super Bowls. You gotta have a Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Famer or the rings. Rings all right, might get in there.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see, we'll see, we'll see he biking up. Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>The way they letting people in the hall these days,

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<v Speaker 2>no wishould say.

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<v Speaker 3>The way they are keeping people out of the days

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<v Speaker 3>they put Joe Cleco.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Hall of Fame. I don't even know who

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<v Speaker 2>that is, thank you, okay, Joe Cleco. I'm just like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we doing, guys? What're doing? I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>new That New York bias is hard.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people complaining about the Dallas bias, but man

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<v Speaker 2>in New York bias is bad. I always tell people

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<v Speaker 2>you have a the Dallas bias. You think you're still

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<v Speaker 2>talking about cowboys who've won rings and cowboys who were

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<v Speaker 2>part of a dominant usually team of the seventies or

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<v Speaker 2>guys that were talking about putting in here were teams

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<v Speaker 2>in the nighties. They're talking about some busters off the street. Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't win those super bowls. I'm sorry, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the time where I get.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>He had he angry, right, we didn't have sniggers and

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<v Speaker 2>everything else. But okay, see, I would love to have

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<v Speaker 2>coffee with your uncle Joe Green and eight. You know

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Joe cleco in your day. No, no, no, he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't he the best player on that own defense. Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Gastono was the best player on the Jet defense and

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<v Speaker 2>just went nothing. But I think the most suggested might

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<v Speaker 2>have gone to an AFSC championship game. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you got by Miami. But I mean we're not talking

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<v Speaker 2>about no great I the Hall of Fame. Man about

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<v Speaker 2>dudes hey I mentioned in Boom. I mean like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that guy, that guy. So you ain't a fan like

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<v Speaker 2>of in on his.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't see see that's we're not five hundred quarterbacks, five.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred quarterback Waite a couple five one hundred, five hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you not think he's getting in though? Look yes

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<v Speaker 3>or no? Do you think he's not getting in?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that once again the New York push Gary Myers,

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<v Speaker 2>who used to work down here. Gary Myers is very big.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very instrumental in getting Joe Klecko in. And

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<v Speaker 2>now one of the things they talk about in the

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame in Canton is there's these, I must say,

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<v Speaker 2>like a political drive for guys where they're out there

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<v Speaker 2>trying to push these people and they're trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>other players to talking about like they went out there

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<v Speaker 2>and got people like Anthony Munio's great offensive tackles to

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how tough it was to block Joe Clecko. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is what they're doing now. So so Rodney Harrison,

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<v Speaker 2>love Rodney Harrison, Rodney Harrison, fantastic safety. They go get

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<v Speaker 2>a guy like Bill Belichick to help him out. When

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<v Speaker 2>Everson Wallas was up there, they went to Belichick and

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<v Speaker 2>they went to Parcels, Hey, what can you tell us

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<v Speaker 2>about Everson Walls. So there's campaigns now to try to

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<v Speaker 2>get guys in. And depending on who's your presenter. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so if Heckman's in the Hall of Fame, there's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be somebody in the Dallas market who presents Hecman. And

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<v Speaker 2>they stood up here and they say, hey, this is

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<v Speaker 2>that some of the people who are presenters now, they

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<v Speaker 2>are doing blitzes all year long. They're offering up zoom

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<v Speaker 2>calls with the player and former coaches. They are really

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<v Speaker 2>trying to sell this thing. Pay ye el. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when you have certain presenters who will go into I'll

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<v Speaker 2>call it the sympathy card. Sam Mills, god Rest, Sam Mills,

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<v Speaker 2>soul Phield Mouse. Sam Mills was on the final ballot,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the pushes was, hey, man, look, if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't vote Sam Mills in now on this modern ballot,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets kicked. He gets kicked over to the seniors committee.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you never know because they're taking one senior year

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<v Speaker 2>versus taking taking five modern day guys. And so here

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<v Speaker 2>is basically what it came down to, DeMarcus Ware versus

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Mills. And one of the voters that I know

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<v Speaker 2>very well said he leaned more towards a player in

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<v Speaker 2>the final year of eligibility, knowing that the other player,

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<v Speaker 2>d Ware, still has multiple shots at getting in.

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<v Speaker 4>So Zam never got to that senior where he because

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<v Speaker 4>they put Sam in.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was the LA super Bowl. Sam Mills

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<v Speaker 2>got in. D Ware did not he got in the

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<v Speaker 2>next year, and so it was if you just sit

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<v Speaker 2>who had a better career? We got him on a bout,

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<v Speaker 2>We got Sam Mills on the ballot, we got de

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<v Speaker 2>wear on the ballot. Who's better career? Dark the Marcus

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<v Speaker 2>Ware Super Bowl champion sack All. But that was the

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<v Speaker 2>politics it gets played. So when you talk about Eli Manning,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a push from the New York people say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, Eli won two Super Bowls against Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Belichick and prevented Belichick's team from from an undefeated season.

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<v Speaker 2>Now won those playoff games? I was there? Some runs? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>run too? Pure Pierre after read this, Hey, hey, Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Plunkett had two runs with Raiders. He did, Yes, he

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<v Speaker 2>did at two run too?

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<v Speaker 5>He did?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know, I mean Joe Flago had a run

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<v Speaker 2>he did. You know, Cats have some runs. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>like we sit run. Eli was a five on the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback man. He let the league get picked. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was the only thing he led the league. He

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<v Speaker 2>never I don't he's never made All Pro. No on MVP,

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<v Speaker 2>what do we do? Ken Anderson? Who you two younger?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Ken Anderson won an MVP led Cincinnati Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>lost to the forty nine ers. But you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>looking at a dude who went out there and bald

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<v Speaker 2>and played, was in Cincinnati too, that guy. That guy

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<v Speaker 2>has a resume for the Hall of Fame, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>not getting in, but because well he played for the Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Eli Nah, bro, no, No, that's not Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Hall of very good.

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<v Speaker 4>So my thing with the singing thing, so if you

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<v Speaker 4>don't make it in the ballots, your time is up.

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<v Speaker 4>You go to this group of singers and only one

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<v Speaker 4>per year, So I think, why, why why I even

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<v Speaker 4>pool from that like that group of people. Why can't

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<v Speaker 4>I just be like, man, you just didn't make it. No,

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<v Speaker 4>because what you what you'd like to do and you

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<v Speaker 4>want to do. And they do this in baseball as well.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to say, you know what, man, we made

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<v Speaker 4>a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>You were overlooked. For instance, Everson Walls has the resumeated

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<v Speaker 2>B one, but he wasn't on the ballot for years.

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<v Speaker 2>And from my knowledge of talking to people that the

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<v Speaker 2>folks didn't and the Dallas were there, the media didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do enough to say, hey, put this guy on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>He won a Super Bowl with the Giants, and parcels,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got like Gary Myers who covered the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 2>and Everson Wallas and also covered the Giants. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like they they didn't put him up. Dallas spokes

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<v Speaker 2>put him up, and he spend most of his time here.

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<v Speaker 2>He had one ballot at the end, and unlike Sam Mills,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody said, hey man, this is ever since last shot man,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to go ahead and take care of He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get in, but you look at the numbers of

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<v Speaker 2>people who are in the Hall, it's really shameful that

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<v Speaker 2>he's not even in the Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor

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<v Speaker 2>for how great of a player he is. It's tough,

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<v Speaker 2>but you damn near need a champion now.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, how do you feel how do you feel about

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<v Speaker 3>the media ultimately or reporters and guys like that being

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<v Speaker 3>the final say. If guys make it to the Hall

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<v Speaker 3>instead of it actually coming from a pool of players

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<v Speaker 3>or a pool of Hall of famers, are guys that

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<v Speaker 3>played with those guys during those times, Because even when

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<v Speaker 3>you talk about the senior members that game, maybe some

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<v Speaker 3>of the guys that even played with them, that could

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<v Speaker 3>even vouch for them, are no longer. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to say around, but they're just not there to even

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<v Speaker 3>back them up to the way that you would back

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<v Speaker 3>up a dewear.

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<v Speaker 2>They have some players now, they do have the community

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<v Speaker 2>does have some players on there and to coach, so

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<v Speaker 2>that has changed. They they they've widened it, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>still the majority of the media. Look going to the

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<v Speaker 2>baseball Okay, a different sport, but people, guys will tell

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<v Speaker 2>you the seniors on baseball they the hardest ones on

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<v Speaker 2>the players, much more tougher than the media. There were

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of like that dude didn't do enough here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they are hard, softality, little you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>little little personal beast and all that. I mean they

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<v Speaker 2>baseball dudes are the hardest guys around. Man Is Rolls

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<v Speaker 2>never gonna be able to get in. That's a hold up,

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<v Speaker 2>don't go, don't go. The whole different. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>it just because of the betting or his numbers won't

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<v Speaker 2>even because of it? Yes, because of the betting, but no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no no. It's the cardinal sin of baseball. Back

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen nineteen, they almost shut the sport down because

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<v Speaker 2>they were cheated. It was a scandal. Okay, so these

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<v Speaker 2>numbers were cheating. No, no, no, no, no, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>telling what they did the sport. Okay, they rigged the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series got rigged. Okay, they shut the sport down.

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<v Speaker 2>So they instituted a thing that basically said, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>betting on baseball. It's in every locker room, everywhere you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Rule number one. Don't gamble on this game. You gamble

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<v Speaker 2>on this game, you get put out for life. Pete

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<v Speaker 2>Rose did it? Gone for life? Put him in the

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame. No, they said, you broke the rule. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>certain people said, well, man, what he did as a

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<v Speaker 2>player doesn't matter. You are a manager, and if anything,

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<v Speaker 2>to me as a manager, that made it even more

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<v Speaker 2>damn So he was he was betting when he was

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<v Speaker 2>a manager, not a player. Yes, oh well to our knowledge, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he's admitted to and that's what that is,

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<v Speaker 2>what the facts showed. But as a manager, okay, So Barry,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're my reliever, all right, So I pitched you

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<v Speaker 2>three days in a row. You probably need a four

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<v Speaker 2>day off, but damn it, I just bet this game, Barry.

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<v Speaker 2>I need you to go. On my arm tired, I

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<v Speaker 2>need you to go. You can get hurt people. A

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<v Speaker 2>man you always bet his team to win, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you can't mess with the integrity of the game like that.

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<v Speaker 2>The steroids that becomes Actually, I heard that was what

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<v Speaker 2>kept Rodney Harrison no, because Rodney admitted he did it,

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<v Speaker 2>so that that kept him out. But I ain't mm

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<v Speaker 2>hm so so we'll see. But but at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, this is a sport that forever in

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<v Speaker 2>the day, everybody it's like they look the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>In baseball, they still use it against people in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Will see, but there's a lot of dudes juiced up

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<v Speaker 2>in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I think the Barry Bonds cases that

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<v Speaker 3>what you're talking about. The McGuire's McGuire, yeah, Sosa is

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<v Speaker 3>none of the Roy guys got in. That's tough. And

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<v Speaker 3>to me, you're talking about a guy that was doing

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<v Speaker 3>it before all the scandal. So and Barry career before

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame career, before the whole steroids.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven MV before he started before that. Yeah, so what

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<v Speaker 2>Bonds ban you you in Pittsburgh, you know you were

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<v Speaker 2>a baby did what years did he playing? I won't

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<v Speaker 2>worry about it when you're saying when you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>if you ever did your Hey, who you're starting nine

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<v Speaker 2>fairy Bonds is in that conversation. You're starting nine best

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<v Speaker 2>players in baseball history. He's in the conversation, like all around,

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<v Speaker 2>he was just a great hitter, but all around five

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<v Speaker 2>to play. He could do it. He could throw, he

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<v Speaker 2>could hit, he could run. The dude was a monster. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a monster. And I'll say this. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can talk about the steroids all day long, and

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<v Speaker 2>people do because they definitely have the ball go further.

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<v Speaker 2>But you still got to hit him hand. You're watching

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<v Speaker 2>that dude. Take Greg Maddox. Now, there's a video if

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<v Speaker 2>you go look it up on social media. It's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Greg Maddox and Barry Bonds talking about in it

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<v Speaker 2>back Greg maddics is one to be best pictures we've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen. And the chess match between them and Bond's

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<v Speaker 2>beats it and he's like, yeah, you can't come into

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<v Speaker 2>the wheelhouse two times and just he's a tremendous hitter

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<v Speaker 2>and just a fantastic player. But the Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and Darren Woodson to the Cowboys is up

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<v Speaker 2>one more time. This is Las Go No, No, It's

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<v Speaker 2>not the last go. But you know, Wood, he's up

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<v Speaker 2>against Rodney Harris. It's very hard to get safeties in

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<v Speaker 2>defensive there's more offensive players and defensive players, and defensive

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<v Speaker 2>backs have tougher times to get in. So it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a challenge to see where it goes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>when they started asking like so to Bill Belichick and

0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Bill Parcells had heavy sway with the heavy sway, Belichick

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely down for Ridney Harris. But then this is

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<v Speaker 2>where you kind of come back and you hope with

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Johnson and the Troyman and you know, people like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I wish you, I wish you take two safeties.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you get into the room like that, Dave

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<v Speaker 2>will just take one here, will take one there. Adam

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<v Speaker 2>Vinattieri's up. You know, clutch kicker. When you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>greatest kickers of all time, if you ain't calling his name,

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<v Speaker 2>it ain't gonna take long until you get to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Clutch kicks super bowls and everything on two Super Bowls

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<v Speaker 2>with different teams. I mean, so where do you go

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<v Speaker 2>but he's the first time or do you make him

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<v Speaker 2>a first ballot guy? Do you make him wait? Because

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<v Speaker 2>some people view. I hear the word first ballot a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just don't believe that's the case for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of players.

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<v Speaker 3>How many get in with five a time, five ago usually,

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<v Speaker 3>but Darren Wilson not being in it's been upsetting for

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<v Speaker 3>the organization.

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<v Speaker 2>People that don't remember Darren Wilson.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not enough to say how good he was coming

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<v Speaker 3>out of college a linebacker converted to safety. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>the way did he fit into an already good defense.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the piece, Like he was that one guy

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<v Speaker 3>that you could put down in the box and you

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<v Speaker 3>knew exactly what Darren Wilson was going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Like his ability like stretch, the fit, leverage, all the

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<v Speaker 3>things that he played with Barry, like come on, and

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<v Speaker 3>it gets to the point it's like what else did

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<v Speaker 3>he need to do? What else did he need to

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<v Speaker 3>add to his career that would have made it any better?

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<v Speaker 3>You've seen guys. When Steve Atwater got in to me,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Woody, that's a rat, because you were

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<v Speaker 3>thinking like either one eight, one B one of those

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.879
<v Speaker 3>guys would have to go first. But when Atwater went in,

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<v Speaker 3>it was almost like guaranteed we would see Darren Woodson

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<v Speaker 3>go in.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad you mentioned it. And this is the

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<v Speaker 2>other part of the game behind the game. Steve Atwater

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<v Speaker 2>went in, and there's always been a contingent. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know some of the guys from Denver who feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they've never been able to get the proper representation for

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<v Speaker 2>their franchise. And Steve was on the two Super Bowl teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Great player at his time, he was the heck of

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<v Speaker 2>a safety man. He was a really good player, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of like, hey man, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>start getting our guys in. Randy Gratishar got in last

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<v Speaker 2>year to young remember you remember Grandy Gratishar was a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that Orange Crush defense played the first Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl to Bowl twelve did the Cowboys beat very good player.

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<v Speaker 2>And they had been trying to get Randy in for

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<v Speaker 2>years and they felt there was a bias folks in

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota will Tape man, there's a bias that we're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting people in. And now those folks and this is

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<v Speaker 2>where Woody gets hurt. They feel like there has been

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<v Speaker 2>an overload of Cowboys getting in, like these guys are

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<v Speaker 2>always getting in and he is going to start to

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<v Speaker 2>pay the price for some of that because they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>how many how many cowboys keep getting in? You're putting

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<v Speaker 2>in intomarcus where you're putting in a Everson, Drew Pearson,

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<v Speaker 2>you put in a clip Harris. I mean, you start

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<v Speaker 2>to look at the last ten years for cowboys that

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<v Speaker 2>got in. People have issues, and that stuff gets used

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<v Speaker 2>against you. Believe me, they start horse trading these boats.

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<v Speaker 3>But guys, those guys that you just mentioned Harris and Pearson,

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<v Speaker 3>they had to wait, They had to wait.

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<v Speaker 2>And these were guys we're talking about Darren Woodson, these.

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<v Speaker 3>Other guys that had to wait, that were really, really good,

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<v Speaker 3>that had to wait until the two thousands to get in.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not saying you're wrong, Okay, for for for

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<v Speaker 2>Drew Pearson to be first team on nineteen seventies and

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<v Speaker 2>wait like that. Then when they had the expanded list

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<v Speaker 2>and they gonna throw Harold Carmichael in before him and

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Harold Carmichael's second team, that's wild, but they made it right.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just telling you, in that room, there's that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff there. And then you started looking at

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<v Speaker 2>some of the names. Antonio Gates is on this list.

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<v Speaker 2>He Toyo Gates. He was a guy that's a Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame. Yeah yeah, so so so he wasn't first battle,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you know he ain't. Wow no, so so

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<v Speaker 2>right there, that's five. That's now four, right, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>think he's there for sure. I mean, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a heck of a list. It always is. Heines Ward,

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<v Speaker 2>hines Ward's super Bowl MVP. Does heines Ward get out?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>James Harrison, former NFL Defensive Player of the Year. Basically, man,

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<v Speaker 2>if your NFL defenseivevie, they don't even put you in there,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be an NBA MVP, You're gonna get in

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<v Speaker 2>the Basketball Hall of Fame. That's true. James is a

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<v Speaker 2>two time Super Bowl champion. Defense played at me hard

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<v Speaker 2>to keep people like that out? What was different? How?

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<v Speaker 3>How is what was different? But man, I don't see

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<v Speaker 3>a career like that, a career like that. It's hard

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<v Speaker 3>to speak on the guy.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm talking about is Woody, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>And you're also bringing in these other people as well,

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<v Speaker 10>Good luck to his Female Vocalist of the Year last night.

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do? He played like seven year He

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<v Speaker 2>ended it quick. Luke had a shorter career. Was he

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<v Speaker 2>the player of the year, Yes, he was. Eli Manning

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<v Speaker 2>two times Super Bowl champion year right, No, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but definitely one of the greatest sackers of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Fred Taylor outstanding running back out of Jacksonerville that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people think because he played in Jacksonville is

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<v Speaker 2>not given his just Duke. We talk about safeties, You

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about a safeties really got some amazing credentials.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Earl Thomas who was with the leagues in

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<v Speaker 2>Uh very Richmond Webb outstanding offensive from Roosevelt High School

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<v Speaker 2>they played at played for the Dolphins, Vince Wilford, another

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<v Speaker 2>super Bowl champion with the Page. They are packed. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be tough. Oh my goodness. Steve Wisnowski outstanding offensive

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<v Speaker 2>lineman with the Raiders, Darren Woodson uh three times super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl champion with the Cowboys. And Marshall Jandon, a former

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<v Speaker 2>super Bowl champion with the with the Ravens. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Tony is already in. Tony's already in. That's Fred's tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>Reggie Wayne, you know another great player. You know, just

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard. I mean, you know what, Wayne Man.

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<v Speaker 4>The greatest showan territory and there Isaac's in there, right man,

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of names on the run.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm kind of torn, and you only can

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<v Speaker 2>take five.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of torn, man, because like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>because what's the name made in there yet?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Sterling? Sharp Sterling is not and Shannon is in Sterling

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, we're talking about Sucks two times Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl Champion, defensive players and Defensive Rookie of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>Sizzles a fantastic player, man, you know it's Earl Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a fascinating It's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>tough one fascinating discussion because when you're talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>safeties between Rodney, Harrison, Woody and Earl Thomas, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Earl's got the least of the Super Bowl wins, least

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<v Speaker 4>of the Super Bowl wins, most controversy off the field,

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<v Speaker 4>but you're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About Pro Bowl just the Pro Bowls, I mean the rolls.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the presence that he was on the field, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you got to take a lot of that off the

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<v Speaker 3>field stuff and just put in between the white lines.

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<v Speaker 2>He was that it was mashup nightmare.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a great tackle even though he was under considered

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<v Speaker 3>undersized a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>He was Yeah, he was a thumper.

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<v Speaker 4>He was real man and he had he was a

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<v Speaker 4>part of one of those defenses that had that name,

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<v Speaker 4>that nickname. Well, I know Woodson was in part of

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<v Speaker 4>those three Super Bowls, but were any of those defenses

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<v Speaker 4>like man, the first defense was in Super Bowl twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the number one defensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Lake so they had Okay, so he was part of

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<v Speaker 2>a cold defense.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's gonna be that safety room. It's gonna be tucking.

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<v Speaker 4>Rodney was cold and was it San Diego?

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<v Speaker 2>Well he was doing then he went to the Patriots

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<v Speaker 2>and got the man like he was. He was cold man,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's you know, so that and then you got,

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<v Speaker 2>like I want to say, Earl Thomas is all decade,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you Woody. Woody was not All first team

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<v Speaker 2>all decade. I every think Butler got that ahead of him.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, these are you going, You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to start to dive into the Okay, all decades, all pros,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where I look at what I look at

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<v Speaker 2>just when you start to go to that next level.

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<v Speaker 2>Eli Manning, it's no way he makes it. Yeah, five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred record, no, no, no all Pros, no MVPs. You

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<v Speaker 2>had two great playoff runs. They were good, but two

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<v Speaker 2>great playoff runs to put Jim plugge it in with

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<v Speaker 2>the Raiders. Yes, Eli, super Bowling. It's it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a fascinating conferensation when I'm talking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Keithley though, y'all just for sure, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>first ballad boom, he's in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he was nice. Not with this list, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying. I know he was unreal. And

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<v Speaker 2>if he.

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<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't have got, you know, the concussion problems, he probably

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<v Speaker 4>would probably still be playing out here putting up unreal numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop. But do you think he's the first mass Stop?

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<v Speaker 9>Was that boy?

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<v Speaker 2>He was like he was cold?

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<v Speaker 11>He was.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm talking about this as a tackler, sideline

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<v Speaker 3>in telling his football I Q all around. He was

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<v Speaker 3>a He's a mad man. He was somebody you had

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<v Speaker 3>to He was just so disruptive.

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<v Speaker 2>You come up.

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<v Speaker 3>You couldn't even get your running game going with Luke

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<v Speaker 3>Keickley on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, here's maybe this, Maybe I'll make it better for

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<v Speaker 2>more a little healthier Sail is a Sean Lee is

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<v Speaker 2>a b Luke Keiley is in a when you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about what that kind of play, and we saw what

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<v Speaker 2>was problem so thinking he's a B player, Luke Kegley's

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<v Speaker 2>a player. Yeah, and and played in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean good.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, dude, Luke was fantastic player. I mean so.

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<v Speaker 2>But the conversation first time, that's what with this many

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 2>guys here, I think it's going to be hard. Knowing

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about it before. We're guys out here on

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 2>the list, how how how long do they have to wait?

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<v Speaker 2>It may be a tough call for Luke Keigley to

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<v Speaker 2>get in there based.

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<v Speaker 4>On he reminds me of the process career wise. Who

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<v Speaker 4>had a real short one but it's in the hall now?

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 5>Was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Willis? Yeah, who had a short career. He's a

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Terrell Davis, Davis short career. You know, I was there

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>when when when when TD went in and I had

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 2>many conversations with him about that as well. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a challenge, man, it's a challenge. So Luke Keigley defensive

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<v Speaker 2>Player of the Year in twenty twelve, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean twenty defensive player of the Year in twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the Rookie of the Year in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that back the rookie next year. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be I'm gonna win the whole thing. That's pretty wilds.

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<v Speaker 2>But you want some guys to be around me here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but yeah, so so it's it's I just

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<v Speaker 2>think it's going to be a challenge for him to

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<v Speaker 2>uh to get in. But at some point in time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pretty much, man, if you went defensive player

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting You're going to get a gold jacket. You

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<v Speaker 2>got it. It becomes the win. And with this list

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 2>of guys, there's certain people and I know who vote

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 2>in the room, like hey man, if this guy had

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>to wait, this would need to wait. So so like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah, man, is this is this Woody's last

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 2>real life? Like no, no, no shot. But because the

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<v Speaker 2>next when does Tom come up? When is Tom?

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<v Speaker 4>He's and he still got like I think three years,

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.240
<v Speaker 4>still got three. I think he got to years left.

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<v Speaker 10>And I understand by the way Willis was not a

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<v Speaker 10>first bout Hall of Famer. You realize that, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick was. Patrick Rakowski's is about to start coming around.

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<v Speaker 2>So it starts to becoming We saw this when Michael

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Irvan was going. It becomes a line and then it

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 2>becomes how do you break the line. For a while

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 2>it was the line of receivers. So was it's like

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Chris Carter and Andre Reed and Tim Brown and Michael

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Irban and Brown was like the last you do to

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<v Speaker 2>get in. He was hot because he was like, man,

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm a return guy too. So so you start looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the safety room right now. Okay, So if you

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 2>if you're looking at you. You're looking at three safties,

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>so it's likely you will only take one between and

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 2>you're lucky because it's no corner, so over corners. So

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.240
<v Speaker 2>who's the one? Is it Earld Thomas? Is it Woody?

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Is it Rodney Harrison? Then you got Sherman about to

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 2>start start coming around corner. But right now we're just

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 2>looking safe. Said you got three safeties that you say,

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<v Speaker 2>hey man, all these guys, if you're only choosing one,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you.

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<v Speaker 3>Got them, Woody, Woody, come home, stop playing. Yeah he

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 3>got more super Bowls?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Do they do?

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<v Speaker 2>They take the numbers into and I saying, then this

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<v Speaker 2>is the thing and I've got to go look at Okay,

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 2>so hecknan, we can look at super Bowls. Now, let's

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>go look at all decade. Let's go look at number

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 2>of all pros and Pro Bowls, you know those other

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 2>things that come in there. And then just ultimately too

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 2>it comes out, who is if HECMA is making the

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 2>case for Barry Church, how convincing and how good is

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Hecma's case. Because we're at the end, So Hecman's going

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<v Speaker 2>to present and then we all go sit around here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna dicuss. We go shoot as many holes in

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<v Speaker 2>there as we can. But he's got to do this

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:49.320
<v Speaker 2>job to show us what way this is what you

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 2>may not know what wood he did that that that

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 2>that that that that that that that's that becomes convincing.

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 2>You were trying to convince someone of why So you

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 2>mean that someone on the counter poking holes in why

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't make it? Yes a man Oh, I already

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 2>know somebody right now is ready to go to war,

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Like who's the person that's poking holes in it? Yeah? No,

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 2>they ready to go to war against against Eli Manning.

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll say this, and I don't know who is doing

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 2>the presentation for Darren Woodson, but the guy you always

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:22.839
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go in there for you was Rick Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>He was with the one of his Rick Gouson had

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Brandon Cooks could play this weekend. Brandon Cooks

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<v Speaker 2>is available. Ceedee Lamb is out there. Take ferguson. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>expect him to play a schoolmaker out there. We feel

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<v Speaker 2>about the past game still gonna be, It's gonna be now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be tough, man.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because you look at the offensive line at

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<v Speaker 4>that point and who's available on the offensive line. If

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 4>you're talking about Zach Martin maybe out and Tyler Smith,

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<v Speaker 4>who's you know, your best offensive line may be best

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 4>offensive player.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be tough, especially going against a guy like DQ.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know what he loves to do. He loves

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<v Speaker 2>to run those games.

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<v Speaker 4>He loves to confuse the offensive lineman out there, and

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<v Speaker 4>he has the pieces to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the one Bamba boy, he ain't gonna be playing.

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<v Speaker 2>But you still got foul on the outside.

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<v Speaker 4>You still got uh I was Dora's armstrong on the outside,

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<v Speaker 4>and you still got belief, sweat, not not sweating out.

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<v Speaker 2>He gone right.

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<v Speaker 4>You got some cats over there either way, So whoa

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<v Speaker 4>they better jaws some stuff to get the handball out

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 4>of a Cooper rush hands pretty fast. But from Cooks,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm getting back out there. I gotta put that tape out.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta put that tape out there. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 4>get another deal.

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<v Speaker 3>You look at those games, those Pittsburgh games, and what

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Pittsburgh did is they didn't change their DNA at all.

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<v Speaker 3>They met, they put that line of scrimmage together and

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 3>they ran at this defense. They knew exactly how to

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 3>get the win. That's the one thing that you say

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 3>about this Cowboys team. If they pull out the win,

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be the ultimate team victory because gonna it's

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 3>gonna take everybody to get this done. The running game

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 3>has been non existent through ten weeks, and the only

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 3>way that you could beat this.

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Team literally is to run the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>You throw the ball fifty five times in this game

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 3>versus Washington, it's gonna be a disaster. Like somebody's gonna gem.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a disaster because that's the way that

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 3>the Commanders defenses is put together. They don't obviously they

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 3>want you to think that the back end is a

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 3>weakness so they can send those guys after you with

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 3>those games and stunts like you just talked about. Man,

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.320
<v Speaker 3>when we get an opportunity to talk about this offense,

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm Jayde Daniels and that's the biggest in my opinion.

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Washington has been bad long enough to finally get a

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 3>program changer, and he may be the one guy. And

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<v Speaker 3>I may have underestimated him too coming out of LSU,

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 3>but he looks like the guy that's going to be

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 3>a problem for a number of years. We've talked about

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Hurts, but Jayde and Daniels is something completely different. Obviously,

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 3>like any other quarterback, they don't like to be touched

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<v Speaker 3>in and sacked and those start some of the errors

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 3>that he has. He had the real injury kind of

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:37.399
<v Speaker 3>earlier in the season. But I look at him as

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Lamar Jackson would touch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I agree with that one. I agree with

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 2>that one. Everything you said is right. But we've seen

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 2>this before in Washington RG three. He different than him, though,

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 2>But this is my thing. I got to do this

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 2>hit with those guys in Washington tomorrow. Show me you

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>can do it again. Because one thing we know in

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 2>his league, these coordinators, man, they're gonna get after it

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 2>and they're gonna figure you out. And I think the

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 2>young man, I think the young man is a fantastic pick,

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 2>and I think he's what you're saying. He can be

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 2>a player for a number of years. But man, over

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:19.399
<v Speaker 2>time that that to be is is the test. Can

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 2>you do this thing again? We thought c J. Strout,

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't play fantasy football this year, but I thought,

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:28.439
<v Speaker 2>t's gonna next level. It's hard, which goes to show

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 2>you to me why Lamar Jackson is not respected more

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 2>than he is to go win two m vps and

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<v Speaker 2>do what he's doing year after. It's hard, man, it

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 2>is hard. Kyler Murray, I thought, heck, you saw Kyler

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Murray play in high school a whole lot here unbelievable career.

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I thought, Kyler Murray is gonna go really be a guy.

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's been a challenge because they start to figure

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.720
<v Speaker 2>you out in his league. But Jaylen, the Cliff Kingsbury

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.360
<v Speaker 2>has done an out standing job with him. But you

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 2>know that's I'm gonna see, man, because the RG three

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 2>RG three thing taught me, Show me and keep doing it.

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, different, different offense, and I think Cliff Kingsbury people

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 3>are gonna start talking talking about him at the end

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 3>of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's we talk about resurgence. Yeah, I would. It's funny.

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Hack Man had the conversation over here with what good buddy,

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I said, no, because he's a Bears fanly Man kingsb said,

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 2>it's coordinator and I like Cliff personally.

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 12>I do.

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I do Cliff and not get along. Great North Turner

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.840
<v Speaker 2>was a coordinator. Yeah, nobody you talk about one of

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:33.440
<v Speaker 2>the great offensive coordinators and guys in this league's history.

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Nor look at the running backs. Everybody got a whole

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 2>nor Man shun. I mean, North was a fantastic Troy

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Troy had nor present him at the Hall of Fame.

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 2>That's how much he changed his career.

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 3>All Cliff needs is if they have the ultimate success

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 3>in Washington, far run into the playoffs, backs it up

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 3>because you're talking about C. J. Stroud and the South

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 3>More slum Jaydon Daniels comes back and he's even better

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 3>in his second stint. I'm telling you, I mean, you're

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 3>not going to be because that's what the thing the

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 3>NFL is missing on those brain trusts. Those guys that

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:06.399
<v Speaker 3>can draw it up, dial it up. And you see

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 3>when guys hire these defensive minded coaches and they're having

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:11.880
<v Speaker 3>to bring it, how much trouble you have come up

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<v Speaker 3>and look at it. Look no further than New York.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not having any success hiring these defensive guys. You

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<v Speaker 3>need a guy like the one you got in Detroit

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<v Speaker 3>right now, who's the offensive coordinator. As on everybody short

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<v Speaker 3>list to be a head coach, the NFL will have

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<v Speaker 3>a very selective memory when it comes down to a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that can play call.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would present Josh McDaniels and some of these

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<v Speaker 2>guys will play callers, but they're not the leaders of men,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where you can get into trouble. Cliff Kingsbury

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<v Speaker 2>and when he was coaching at Texas Tech, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they never had a defense. They could put up offensive

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<v Speaker 2>numbers and went to Arizona. It's kind of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think there's a difference in those guys who

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<v Speaker 2>just called like nor call some great plays, but running

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. Sean McVay is a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean McVay actually and obviously got Wade helping him out

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<v Speaker 2>at first, but Sean McVay showing you can be leader

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<v Speaker 2>of men and run the team. The dude and the

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<v Speaker 2>dude with the Charger Chargers, but the dude with Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, call plays you know, head coach. He's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>going anywhere. So brother, trust he wouldn't be what.

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<v Speaker 2>Sold brother about to be back in old brother man soul.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother gonna be old brother, soul. Brother ain't old brother,

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<v Speaker 2>ain't cutting it man cutting the soul coming back. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>gonna realize, Oh he's black. Oh it's time to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, you ain't gonna be here the ball right uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Commanders Joe Jr. Commander's thirty seven, oh thirty seven right

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<v Speaker 2>down there he commander Commandos the man Manos thirty seven, Dallas.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirteen thirteen, Dan remember for thirty seven. You're coming for

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<v Speaker 3>his picture. So do we have to go on to

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<v Speaker 3>the d m N to get your your picks? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you gonna you go send them over? Hommie?

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<v Speaker 2>You just in the check in the chat. We are

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<v Speaker 2>not going looking for your picks. Just don't me a

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<v Speaker 2>little chat? I mean, why not? Can give give your

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<v Speaker 2>brother a click? Brother? Click? I got the very church

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<v Speaker 2>instructs players lines They'll be here tomorrow, I won't

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