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Speaker 1: Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: For the game up there. Good unders, good luck to

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Speaker 2: all the Cowboy fans rolling on up there. The FedEx

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Speaker 2: Field seats won't be as easy to get this time.

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Speaker 2: That's something in love with their team again, right?

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Speaker 3: What was the It's not a pig, but what what

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Speaker 3: their mascot?

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Speaker 2: What is his name again? Commanded Sergeant Tuddy's still a

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Speaker 2: big that's still a thing, right, So right? I think

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Speaker 2: I don't know what new management I don't know, Major,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That was embarrassing shirts and all. So

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Speaker 2: Major Tuddy is a pig and that's a take off

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Speaker 2: the old Hogs. The offensive line, you're you're young. You

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Speaker 2: was the offensive line with the Hogs. It was Jeff

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Speaker 2: Bostick the center. You had Joe Jacobe at right tackle.

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Speaker 2: Russ Grimm was guard there. Uh, George Stark was on

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Speaker 2: the line. Was Riggs winning? Yes, he was? The Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl SEVENTEENFL films, Yes, yes, yes, chip right, seventy chip right.

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Speaker 2: I want to get by history right, let me hit

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Speaker 2: the NFL films. I remember watching that. I remember watching

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Speaker 2: that game. David Woodley was the quarterback for the Miami

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Speaker 2: Dolphins that day. Game was at the Rose Bowl and

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Speaker 2: Miami was leading, and then the second half they come back.

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Speaker 2: It's a fourth down play they ran seventy chip gate

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Speaker 2: a ball to John Riggins, and the whole thing was that, Hey, John,

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Speaker 2: if they run the play right, Rigo should be left

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Speaker 2: one on one with a defensive back and Joe Bugle.

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Speaker 2: At the time, the offensive line coach on the NFL

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Speaker 2: film said, look, if there's a defensive back against John Riggins, No,

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Speaker 2: but defensive back of the league should be able to

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Speaker 2: handle him. Sure enough, d Bat came up there, stiff

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Speaker 2: arm boom, Rigo goes right down there and runs it

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Speaker 2: in and the next thing you know, they go win

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Did They always used to have, you know, daytime Super

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Speaker 4: Bowls back then. That feel like every time I watched

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Speaker 4: NFL films, it's like it was during the date, the

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Speaker 4: entire day, like the game was over by like.

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Speaker 2: Five or something like that. Well, this game was the

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Speaker 2: Rose Bowls, so those are going to start start around

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Speaker 2: five and then the dust comes down, settles over the

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Speaker 2: San Gabrielle Mountains and so that game ended at night.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot like the Raider of Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: was during the day. But that was a different NFL. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, this is this is not that. This is

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Speaker 2: not the This is the NFL that was behind, way

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Speaker 2: behind baseball and boxing. It was it was trying to

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Speaker 2: make its way up to the climate. It's not the

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Speaker 2: NFL today where you are running the whole day around

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Speaker 2: whatever it is you want to do. That's different, man,

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Speaker 2: It's different. It's different times. But that was the first

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Speaker 2: to Joe Gibbson's three Super Bowls in Washington and with

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Speaker 2: three different quarterbacks. But yes, the Hogs were something, believe

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Speaker 2: it or not. You know, heck, you don't remember this church.

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Speaker 2: Are you surprised if they don't have anybody in the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame off that offensive line?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: I mean you talk about the running game that they

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Speaker 3: had with Rigo back then in how big the Hogs

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Speaker 3: were during the eighties. To consu or that gibbs and

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Speaker 3: those championship runs, that's that's kind of weird.

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Speaker 2: That's the ones that did the little high five day.

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Speaker 2: Thank God for NFL. I remember that time they did

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Speaker 2: in Texas Stadium in zone Everson Walls. Then I'm not

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Speaker 2: doing that. Not doing that in here, buds. That's that

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Speaker 2: is the beauty of what what that used to be

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Speaker 4: What's your top three nicknames for a group like you had?

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Speaker 4: The fun Bunch was the Hogs.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's still Curtains, Saxonville gotta be up there.

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Speaker 2: The Jackson five, you know, Purple, the Purple People leaders,

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Speaker 3: I'm love it when everything starts with you, like Kobe.

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Speaker 2: Sax and Saxonville. Ain't the top Saxonville in the time,

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Speaker 2: top five? Got's five? Okay, let me let me the

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Speaker 2: Jackson five. Come on. First of all, let me let.

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Speaker 4: Me help you out what you got?

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Speaker 2: The names we have? These are people have these things

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Speaker 2: called rings. That's the first thing you are just going on.

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Speaker 2: You need to get you a ring up in here

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Speaker 2: to get your name. What you mean the greatest show

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Speaker 2: on turf? Ring you got you can? You have a

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Speaker 3: Championshire great defense one time, one year, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Great no name defense. I mean they want to super

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Speaker 6: No name, right, Saxophville saying, okay, so so so disrespect

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Speaker 6: But did you all set the sack record?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Before what's the name? Blew it out? I think

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Speaker 2: fifty five or fifty six. Yeah, no ring, no ring.

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Speaker 2: That's facts. That is means, so you gotta you want

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Speaker 2: a nickname and then and then your your team's your

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Speaker 2: team's still young. But you also need some Hall of

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Speaker 2: man hall of famers. Purple People leaders didn't win a ring,

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Speaker 2: those four super Bowls. You gotta have a Hall of

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Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see, we'll see he biking up. Hey.

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Speaker 2: The way they letting people in the hall these days,

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Speaker 3: The way they are keeping people out of the days

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Speaker 2: In the Hall of Fame. I don't even know who

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Speaker 2: that is, thank you, okay, Joe Cleco. I'm just like, well,

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know people complaining about the Dallas bias, but man

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Speaker 2: talking about cowboys who've won rings and cowboys who were

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Speaker 2: guys that were talking about putting in here were teams

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Speaker 2: in the nighties. They're talking about some busters off the street. Joe,

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Speaker 2: they didn't win those super bowls. I'm sorry, you know what,

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Speaker 2: this is the time where I get.

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Speaker 2: He had he angry, right, we didn't have sniggers and

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Speaker 2: everything else. But okay, see, I would love to have

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Speaker 2: Joe Joe cleco in your day. No, no, no, he

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Speaker 2: wasn't he the best player on that own defense. Mark

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Speaker 2: Gastono was the best player on the Jet defense and

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Speaker 2: dudes hey I mentioned in Boom. I mean like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Don't see see that's we're not five hundred quarterbacks, five.

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Speaker 3: Do you not think he's getting in though? Look yes

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Speaker 2: I think that once again the New York push Gary Myers,

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Speaker 2: who used to work down here. Gary Myers is very big.

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Speaker 2: He was very instrumental in getting Joe Klecko in. And

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Speaker 2: like a political drive for guys where they're out there

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Speaker 2: other players to talking about like they went out there

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Speaker 2: and got people like Anthony Munio's great offensive tackles to

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Speaker 2: talking about how tough it was to block Joe Clecko. No,

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Speaker 2: but this is what they're doing now. So so Rodney Harrison,

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Speaker 2: love Rodney Harrison, Rodney Harrison, fantastic safety. They go get

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Speaker 2: a guy like Bill Belichick to help him out. When

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Speaker 2: about Everson Walls. So there's campaigns now to try to

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Speaker 2: so if Heckman's in the Hall of Fame, there's gonna

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Speaker 2: trying to sell this thing. Pay ye el. And then

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Speaker 2: when you have certain presenters who will go into I'll

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Speaker 2: call it the sympathy card. Sam Mills, god Rest, Sam Mills,

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Speaker 2: you don't vote Sam Mills in now on this modern ballot,

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Speaker 2: he gets kicked. He gets kicked over to the seniors committee.

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Speaker 2: Then you never know because they're taking one senior year

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Speaker 2: is basically what it came down to, DeMarcus Ware versus

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Speaker 2: Sam Mills. And one of the voters that I know

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Speaker 2: very well said he leaned more towards a player in

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Speaker 2: d Ware, still has multiple shots at getting in.

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Speaker 4: So Zam never got to that senior where he because

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Speaker 4: they put Sam in.

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Speaker 2: It was it was the LA super Bowl. Sam Mills

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Speaker 2: got in. D Ware did not he got in the

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Speaker 2: next year, and so it was if you just sit

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Speaker 2: who had a better career? We got him on a bout,

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Speaker 2: wear on the ballot. Who's better career? Dark the Marcus

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Speaker 2: Ware Super Bowl champion sack All. But that was the

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Speaker 2: politics it gets played. So when you talk about Eli Manning,

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Speaker 2: there's a push from the New York people say, well,

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Speaker 2: you know what, Eli won two Super Bowls against Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick and prevented Belichick's team from from an undefeated season.

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Speaker 2: Now won those playoff games? I was there? Some runs? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Plunkett had two runs with Raiders. He did, Yes, he

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Speaker 2: did at two run too?

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Speaker 5: He did?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I mean Joe Flago had a run

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Speaker 2: he did. You know, Cats have some runs. Now it's

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Speaker 2: like we sit run. Eli was a five on the

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Speaker 2: You were overlooked. For instance, Everson Walls has the resumeated

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Speaker 2: for how great of a player he is. It's tough,

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Speaker 2: They have some players now, they do have the community

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Speaker 2: So they instituted a thing that basically said, there's no

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Speaker 2: I need you to go. On my arm tired, I

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Speaker 2: you can't mess with the integrity of the game like that.

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Speaker 2: The steroids that becomes Actually, I heard that was what

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Speaker 3: But you know, I think the Barry Bonds cases that

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Speaker 3: what you're talking about. The McGuire's McGuire, yeah, Sosa is

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Speaker 2: Seven MV before he started before that. Yeah, so what

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Speaker 2: if you ever did your Hey, who you're starting nine

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Speaker 2: But you still got to hit him hand. You're watching

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Speaker 2: It's Greg Maddox and Barry Bonds talking about in it

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Speaker 2: right now, and Darren Woodson to the Cowboys is up

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Speaker 2: not the last go. But you know, Wood, he's up

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Speaker 3: How many get in with five a time, five ago usually,

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Speaker 2: People that don't remember Darren Wilson.

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Speaker 3: It's not enough to say how good he was coming

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Speaker 3: He was the piece, Like he was that one guy

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Speaker 2: That is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You've seen guys. When Steve Atwater got in to me,

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad you mentioned it. And this is the

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Speaker 2: how many how many cowboys keep getting in? You're putting

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Speaker 3: But guys, those guys that you just mentioned Harris and Pearson,

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Speaker 2: And these were guys we're talking about Darren Woodson, these.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Harold Carmichael's second team, that's wild, but they made it right.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just telling you, in that room, there's that

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Speaker 2: right there, that's five. That's now four, right, Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: it's a heck of a list. It always is. Heines Ward,

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: How is what was different? But man, I don't see

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Speaker 2: That's all I'm talking about is Woody, you know, and

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Speaker 2: And you're also bringing in these other people as well,

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Speaker 2: Bridney Harrison, former defensive Player of the Year, two Super

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Speaker 2: what do you do? He played like seven year He

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Speaker 2: the player of the year, Yes, he was. Eli Manning

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Speaker 2: two times Super Bowl champion. Robert Mathis defensive end and

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Speaker 2: to Rodney Harrison's Patriots team. Terrell Suggs super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 2: two times Super Bowl champion year right, No, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but definitely one of the greatest sackers of all time.

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Speaker 2: not given his just Duke. We talk about safeties, You

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Speaker 2: want to talk about a safeties really got some amazing credentials.

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Speaker 2: It is Earl Thomas who was with the leagues in

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Speaker 2: super Bowl champion with the Page. They are packed. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be tough. Oh my goodness. Steve Wisnowski outstanding offensive

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Speaker 2: lineman with the Raiders, Darren Woodson uh three times super

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Speaker 2: Bowl champion with the Cowboys. And Marshall Jandon, a former

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Speaker 2: super Bowl champion with the with the Ravens. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Tony is already in. Tony's already in. That's Fred's tackle.

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Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne, you know another great player. You know, just

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Speaker 2: it's hard. I mean, you know what, Wayne Man.

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Speaker 4: The greatest showan territory and there Isaac's in there, right man,

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of names on the run.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm kind of torn, and you only can

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of torn, man, because like I don't know,

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Speaker 4: because what's the name made in there yet?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Sterling? Sharp Sterling is not and Shannon is in Sterling

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Speaker 2: by the way, we're talking about Sucks two times Super

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Speaker 2: Sizzles a fantastic player, man, you know it's Earl Thomas

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Speaker 2: is going to be a fascinating It's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: tough one fascinating discussion because when you're talking about the

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Speaker 2: safeties between Rodney, Harrison, Woody and Earl Thomas, you know.

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Speaker 4: Earl's got the least of the Super Bowl wins, least

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Speaker 4: of the Super Bowl wins, most controversy off the field,

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Speaker 4: but you're talking.

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Speaker 2: About Pro Bowl just the Pro Bowls, I mean the rolls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the presence that he was on the field, Like

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Speaker 2: He was that it was mashup nightmare.

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Speaker 3: Got a great tackle even though he was under considered

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Speaker 2: He was Yeah, he was a thumper.

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Speaker 4: He was real man and he had he was a

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Speaker 4: part of one of those defenses that had that name,

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Speaker 4: that nickname. Well, I know Woodson was in part of

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Speaker 4: those three Super Bowls, but were any of those defenses

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Speaker 4: That was the number one defensive.

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Speaker 2: Lake so they had Okay, so he was part of

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Speaker 4: So that's gonna be that safety room. It's gonna be tucking.

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Speaker 4: Rodney was cold and was it San Diego?

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Speaker 2: Well he was doing then he went to the Patriots

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Speaker 2: and got the man like he was. He was cold man,

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Speaker 2: and so that's you know, so that and then you got,

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Speaker 2: like I want to say, Earl Thomas is all decade,

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Speaker 2: I think you Woody. Woody was not All first team

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Speaker 2: Eli Manning, it's no way he makes it. Yeah, five

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Speaker 4: It's Keithley though, y'all just for sure, like you know,

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Speaker 2: I know he was nice. Not with this list, Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. I know he was unreal. And

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Speaker 2: He was like he was cold?

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Speaker 11: He was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm talking about this as a tackler, sideline

645
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Speaker 3: in telling his football I Q all around. He was

646
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Speaker 3: a He's a mad man. He was somebody you had

647
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Speaker 3: to He was just so disruptive.

648
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Speaker 2: You come up.

649
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Speaker 3: You couldn't even get your running game going with Luke

650
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Speaker 3: Keickley on the field.

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Speaker 2: Bro, here's maybe this, Maybe I'll make it better for

652
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Speaker 2: you this way. Luke Keickley was what Seawan Lee. He's

653
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Speaker 2: more a little healthier Sail is a Sean Lee is

654
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Speaker 2: a b Luke Keiley is in a when you talk

655
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Speaker 2: about what that kind of play, and we saw what

656
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Speaker 2: Sean Lee meant here with Sean Lee wasn't but it

657
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Speaker 2: was problem so thinking he's a B player, Luke Kegley's

658
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Speaker 2: a player. Yeah, and and played in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 10: I mean good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, dude, Luke was fantastic player. I mean so.

661
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Speaker 2: But the conversation first time, that's what with this many

662
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Speaker 2: guys here, I think it's going to be hard. Knowing

663
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Speaker 2: we talked about it before. We're guys out here on

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Speaker 2: the list, how how how long do they have to wait?

665
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Speaker 2: It may be a tough call for Luke Keigley to

666
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Speaker 2: get in there based.

667
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Speaker 4: On he reminds me of the process career wise. Who

668
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Speaker 4: had a real short one but it's in the hall now?

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Speaker 5: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Patrick Willis? Yeah, who had a short career. He's a

671
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Speaker 2: Terrell Davis, Davis short career. You know, I was there

672
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Speaker 2: when when when when TD went in and I had

673
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Speaker 2: many conversations with him about that as well. It's it's

674
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Speaker 2: a challenge, man, it's a challenge. So Luke Keigley defensive

675
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Speaker 2: Player of the Year in twenty twelve, I mean, I

676
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Speaker 2: mean twenty defensive player of the Year in twenty thirteen.

677
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Speaker 2: He was the Rookie of the Year in twenty twelve.

678
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Speaker 2: Think about that back the rookie next year. I'm gonna

679
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Speaker 2: be I'm gonna win the whole thing. That's pretty wilds.

680
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Speaker 2: But you want some guys to be around me here?

681
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but yeah, so so it's it's I just

682
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Speaker 2: think it's going to be a challenge for him to

683
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Speaker 2: uh to get in. But at some point in time,

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Speaker 2: you know, pretty much, man, if you went defensive player

685
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Speaker 2: you're getting You're going to get a gold jacket. You

686
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Speaker 2: got it. It becomes the win. And with this list

687
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Speaker 2: of guys, there's certain people and I know who vote

688
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Speaker 2: in the room, like hey man, if this guy had

689
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Speaker 2: to wait, this would need to wait. So so like

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Speaker 2: I said, yeah, man, is this is this Woody's last

691
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: real life? Like no, no, no shot. But because the

692
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Speaker 2: next when does Tom come up? When is Tom?

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Speaker 4: He's and he still got like I think three years,

694
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Speaker 4: still got three. I think he got to years left.

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Speaker 10: And I understand by the way Willis was not a

696
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Speaker 10: first bout Hall of Famer. You realize that, right, Yeah.

697
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Speaker 2: Patrick was. Patrick Rakowski's is about to start coming around.

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Speaker 2: So it starts to becoming We saw this when Michael

699
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Speaker 2: Irvan was going. It becomes a line and then it

700
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Speaker 2: becomes how do you break the line. For a while

701
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: it was the line of receivers. So was it's like

702
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Speaker 2: Chris Carter and Andre Reed and Tim Brown and Michael

703
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Speaker 2: Irban and Brown was like the last you do to

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Speaker 2: get in. He was hot because he was like, man,

705
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: I'm a return guy too. So so you start looking

706
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: at the safety room right now. Okay, So if you

707
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: if you're looking at you. You're looking at three safties,

708
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: so it's likely you will only take one between and

709
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: you're lucky because it's no corner, so over corners. So

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Speaker 2: who's the one? Is it Earld Thomas? Is it Woody?

711
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Speaker 2: Is it Rodney Harrison? Then you got Sherman about to

712
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: start start coming around corner. But right now we're just

713
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Speaker 2: looking safe. Said you got three safeties that you say,

714
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Speaker 2: hey man, all these guys, if you're only choosing one,

715
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Speaker 2: I mean you.

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Speaker 3: Got them, Woody, Woody, come home, stop playing. Yeah he

717
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Speaker 3: got more super Bowls?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Do they do?

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Speaker 2: They take the numbers into and I saying, then this

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Speaker 2: is the thing and I've got to go look at Okay,

722
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: so hecknan, we can look at super Bowls. Now, let's

723
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Speaker 2: go look at all decade. Let's go look at number

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Speaker 2: of all pros and Pro Bowls, you know those other

725
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: things that come in there. And then just ultimately too

726
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: it comes out, who is if HECMA is making the

727
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Speaker 2: case for Barry Church, how convincing and how good is

728
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Speaker 2: Hecma's case. Because we're at the end, So Hecman's going

729
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Speaker 2: to present and then we all go sit around here.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna dicuss. We go shoot as many holes in

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Speaker 2: there as we can. But he's got to do this

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Speaker 2: job to show us what way this is what you

733
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Speaker 2: may not know what wood he did that that that

734
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Speaker 2: that that that that that that that's that becomes convincing.

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Speaker 2: You were trying to convince someone of why So you

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Speaker 2: mean that someone on the counter poking holes in why

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't make it? Yes a man Oh, I already

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Speaker 2: know somebody right now is ready to go to war,

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Speaker 2: Like who's the person that's poking holes in it? Yeah? No,

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Speaker 2: they ready to go to war against against Eli Manning.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, and I don't know who is doing

742
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Speaker 2: the presentation for Darren Woodson, but the guy you always

743
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: wanted to go in there for you was Rick Guys.

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Speaker 2: He was with the one of his Rick Gouson had

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Speaker 2: All right, Brandon Cooks could play this weekend. Brandon Cooks

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Speaker 2: is available. Ceedee Lamb is out there. Take ferguson. Don't

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Speaker 2: expect him to play a schoolmaker out there. We feel

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Speaker 2: about the past game still gonna be, It's gonna be now.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough, man.

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Speaker 4: I mean, because you look at the offensive line at

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Speaker 4: that point and who's available on the offensive line. If

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Speaker 4: who's you know, your best offensive line may be best

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough, especially going against a guy like DQ.

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Speaker 2: And we know what he loves to do. He loves

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Speaker 2: to run those games.

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00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: He loves to confuse the offensive lineman out there, and

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Speaker 4: he has the pieces to do so.

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Speaker 2: I know the one Bamba boy, he ain't gonna be playing.

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Speaker 2: But you still got foul on the outside.

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Speaker 4: You still got uh I was Dora's armstrong on the outside,

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Speaker 4: and you still got belief, sweat, not not sweating out.

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Speaker 2: He gone right.

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Speaker 4: You got some cats over there either way, So whoa

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Speaker 4: they better jaws some stuff to get the handball out

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00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 4: of a Cooper rush hands pretty fast. But from Cooks,

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Speaker 4: I'm getting back out there. I gotta put that tape out.

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Speaker 4: You gotta put that tape out there. I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: get another deal.

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Speaker 3: You look at those games, those Pittsburgh games, and what

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh did is they didn't change their DNA at all.

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Speaker 3: They met, they put that line of scrimmage together and

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00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: they ran at this defense. They knew exactly how to

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Speaker 3: get the win. That's the one thing that you say

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Speaker 3: about this Cowboys team. If they pull out the win,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be the ultimate team victory because gonna it's

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Speaker 3: gonna take everybody to get this done. The running game

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Speaker 3: has been non existent through ten weeks, and the only

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Speaker 3: way that you could beat this.

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Speaker 2: Team literally is to run the ball.

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Speaker 3: You throw the ball fifty five times in this game

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Speaker 3: versus Washington, it's gonna be a disaster. Like somebody's gonna gem.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a disaster because that's the way that

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Speaker 3: the Commanders defenses is put together. They don't obviously they

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Speaker 3: want you to think that the back end is a

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Speaker 3: weakness so they can send those guys after you with

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Speaker 3: those games and stunts like you just talked about. Man,

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Speaker 3: when we get an opportunity to talk about this offense,

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Speaker 3: I'm Jayde Daniels and that's the biggest in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Washington has been bad long enough to finally get a

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Speaker 3: program changer, and he may be the one guy. And

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Speaker 3: I may have underestimated him too coming out of LSU,

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Speaker 3: but he looks like the guy that's going to be

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Speaker 3: a problem for a number of years. We've talked about

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, but Jayde and Daniels is something completely different. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: like any other quarterback, they don't like to be touched

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Speaker 3: in and sacked and those start some of the errors

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Speaker 3: that he has. He had the real injury kind of

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Speaker 3: earlier in the season. But I look at him as

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson would touch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that one. I agree with

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Speaker 2: that one. Everything you said is right. But we've seen

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Speaker 2: this before in Washington RG three. He different than him, though,

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Speaker 2: But this is my thing. I got to do this

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Speaker 2: hit with those guys in Washington tomorrow. Show me you

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Speaker 2: can do it again. Because one thing we know in

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Speaker 2: his league, these coordinators, man, they're gonna get after it

859
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: and they're gonna figure you out. And I think the

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Speaker 2: young man, I think the young man is a fantastic pick,

861
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Speaker 2: and I think he's what you're saying. He can be

862
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Speaker 2: a player for a number of years. But man, over

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Speaker 2: time that that to be is is the test. Can

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Speaker 2: you do this thing again? We thought c J. Strout,

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Speaker 2: I didn't play fantasy football this year, but I thought,

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Speaker 2: t's gonna next level. It's hard, which goes to show

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Speaker 2: you to me why Lamar Jackson is not respected more

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Speaker 2: than he is to go win two m vps and

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Speaker 2: do what he's doing year after. It's hard, man, it

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00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: is hard. Kyler Murray, I thought, heck, you saw Kyler

871
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Speaker 2: Murray play in high school a whole lot here unbelievable career.

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00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: I thought, Kyler Murray is gonna go really be a guy.

873
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Speaker 2: And it's been a challenge because they start to figure

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00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 2: you out in his league. But Jaylen, the Cliff Kingsbury

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00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: has done an out standing job with him. But you

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Speaker 2: know that's I'm gonna see, man, because the RG three

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Speaker 2: RG three thing taught me, Show me and keep doing it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, different, different offense, and I think Cliff Kingsbury people

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Speaker 3: are gonna start talking talking about him at the end

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Speaker 3: of the year.

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Speaker 2: It's we talk about resurgence. Yeah, I would. It's funny.

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Speaker 2: Hack Man had the conversation over here with what good buddy,

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Speaker 2: I said, no, because he's a Bears fanly Man kingsb said,

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Speaker 2: it's coordinator and I like Cliff personally.

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Speaker 12: I do.

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Speaker 2: I do Cliff and not get along. Great North Turner

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Speaker 2: was a coordinator. Yeah, nobody you talk about one of

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00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: the great offensive coordinators and guys in this league's history.

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00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: Nor look at the running backs. Everybody got a whole

890
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Speaker 2: nor Man shun. I mean, North was a fantastic Troy

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Speaker 2: Troy had nor present him at the Hall of Fame.

892
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Speaker 2: That's how much he changed his career.

893
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Speaker 3: All Cliff needs is if they have the ultimate success

894
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Speaker 3: in Washington, far run into the playoffs, backs it up

895
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Speaker 3: because you're talking about C. J. Stroud and the South

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Speaker 3: More slum Jaydon Daniels comes back and he's even better

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Speaker 3: in his second stint. I'm telling you, I mean, you're

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Speaker 3: not going to be because that's what the thing the

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Speaker 3: NFL is missing on those brain trusts. Those guys that

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Speaker 3: can draw it up, dial it up. And you see

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00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 3: when guys hire these defensive minded coaches and they're having

902
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Speaker 3: to bring it, how much trouble you have come up

903
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: and look at it. Look no further than New York.

904
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Speaker 3: You're not having any success hiring these defensive guys. You

905
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Speaker 3: need a guy like the one you got in Detroit

906
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 3: right now, who's the offensive coordinator. As on everybody short

907
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: list to be a head coach, the NFL will have

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00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: a very selective memory when it comes down to a

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Speaker 3: guy that can play call.

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Speaker 2: And I would present Josh McDaniels and some of these

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00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: guys will play callers, but they're not the leaders of men,

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00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: and that's where you can get into trouble. Cliff Kingsbury

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Speaker 2: and when he was coaching at Texas Tech, I mean

914
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Speaker 2: they never had a defense. They could put up offensive

915
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 2: numbers and went to Arizona. It's kind of the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I do think there's a difference in those guys who

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Speaker 2: just called like nor call some great plays, but running

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. Sean McVay is a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: Sean McVay actually and obviously got Wade helping him out

920
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Speaker 2: at first, but Sean McVay showing you can be leader

921
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Speaker 2: of men and run the team. The dude and the

922
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Speaker 2: dude with the Charger Chargers, but the dude with Cincinnati

923
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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, call plays you know, head coach. He's gonna be

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Speaker 3: going anywhere. So brother, trust he wouldn't be what.

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Speaker 2: Sold brother about to be back in old brother man soul.

927
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Speaker 2: Brother gonna be old brother, soul. Brother ain't old brother,

928
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Speaker 2: ain't cutting it man cutting the soul coming back. Somebody

929
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Speaker 2: gonna realize, Oh he's black. Oh it's time to go.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, you ain't gonna be here the ball right uh,

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Speaker 2: Commanders Joe Jr. Commander's thirty seven, oh thirty seven right

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Speaker 2: down there he commander Commandos the man Manos thirty seven, Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen thirteen, Dan remember for thirty seven. You're coming for

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Speaker 3: his picture. So do we have to go on to

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Speaker 3: the d m N to get your your picks? Are

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Speaker 3: you gonna you go send them over? Hommie?

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Speaker 2: You just in the check in the chat. We are

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Speaker 2: not going looking for your picks. Just don't me a

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Speaker 2: little chat? I mean, why not? Can give give your

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Speaker 2: brother a click? Brother? Click? I got the very church

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Speaker 2: instructs players lines They'll be here tomorrow, I won't

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