1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is baxed, waxed, and ready 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: for raptured Gross. Welcome to another edition of the Around 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas comes to 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: you from a virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal, 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. Week one in the books, Week two, right 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: around the Corner, And I really truly enjoyed how the 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: first week of the season ended in that madhouse in Vegas, 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: that new facility, it was, And I feel for all 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: the fans in Oakland who lost their team. But if 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: you're Mark Davis in your beautiful white and white Miami 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: Vice suit, chilling next to Charles Woodson, you're looking around 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I kind of Elvis. I hope 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: my I hope my dad is watching down and seeing 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: this because I just set this organization up um from 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: a value standpoint and a just a general vibe like 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: the Raiders are a vibe now And that was a 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: fun game Um to enjoy. Uh. You know, the monoculture 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: is dead, Mark, But the communal experience of watching a 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: great prime time game like last night, that's just fun 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: and everybody gets to share it together in the moment. Yeah, 21 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: I'll just say what I tweeted out, because it was 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: the it was the true feeling I felt about the 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: game that um. I thought that the game was essentially 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: like the Symbionese Liberation Army of the nineteen seventies. And 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: I was the game's Patty Hurst Um, the kidnapped victim 26 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: who started off a little bit suspicious about being kidnapped 27 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: by the experience, but then became more wedded to it 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: and then a supporter of it eventually. I mean, things 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: changed a little later on, but it won me over. 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a bit of a sloppy, messy 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: affair out of the gate, but it turned into sort 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: of a classic. And it had a lot to do 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: with the television experience, um, which was not the normal 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: ESPN one for me. And we can get into that later. 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: So you liken it too, well, let's not save that. 36 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never heard you so excited about broadcast 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: as the Manning Brothers. Let's hear it well, I will. Well, 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, Danny, well, you knew it was gonna go 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: either one of two ways with Sessler. He was either 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: going to be as angry as anyone's ever been about 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: anything about Peyton and Eli or he was gonna love 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: it more than anyone else, and quite frankly, I'm a 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: little surprised where it went. Mark was all in on 44 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing. And I do like Mark that you 45 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: did equate the beginning of the game and which is 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: kind of an assignment for us to being the victim 47 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: of a felony crime, like you had to watch this 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: football game. But apparently by the end of it it 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: was a treat for you. It was. And I mean, 50 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: just to hit on the Manning Brothers thing. I I've 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: in trying in more things in life to not um, 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, hold up all my past pretenses and and 53 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, ideas about the Mannings or something 54 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: like this. I just wanted to see what they had 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: to say, and I didn't click into about twenty minutes in, 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: and that's where everyone said that the first any minutes 57 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: where clunky. From there, I have to tell you something 58 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: that I think that the typical um play by play 59 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: man and like a tight uh necktie around his white 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: shirt and his little sports coat and like throwing it 61 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: left and right to one athlete in the booth is over. 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: I know it won't be because networks will run about 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: thirty years after everyone else realizes things are over. So 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna go on and on. But I'm telling you 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: right now, what I saw last night made me simply 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: enjoy the game more and I learned five times more 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: than I haven't watching any football being game because just 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: the manning sitting there talking shop with First it was 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley. He's not bringing the football knowledge, but he 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: was hilarious. But you've got Travis Kelsey, all right, you've 71 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: got Ray Rice, who I've always found hyper annoying. They 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: actually in a more relaxed setting, got a lot out 73 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: of him. And then it was Russell Wilson, who was 74 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: meant to be studying film, but he said, I'm gonna 75 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: stick with you guys all the way through this overtime 76 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: because I'm learning by listening to you, and you're learning 77 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: from me. And like their opping mad bombs, they're making 78 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: fun of Eli. There was a lot of humor, and 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: it just to me feel felt like a television experience 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: made for one where half the time people are watching 81 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, a girl in a swimming pool on Twitch. 82 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's all sorts of things that people 83 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: are doing instead of watching normal broadcast television right now, 84 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: and this was right up that alley. So for me, 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: like you know what, I thought of Wes a little 86 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: bit because Wes was someone who was quite annoyed with 87 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: the Monday night football announcing teams of the past couple 88 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: of years, and I think he would have enjoyed this 89 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: experience in a very different way, although he was famously 90 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: annoyed with Peyton Manning, you know in his produced commercial 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: like ads where he's holding like a sandwich, not in 92 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: that trying to be funny and right and stuff. No, 93 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm totally intrigued by marx in you know, fascination 94 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: with this and I love it. It's a great subplot. Mark, 95 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: are you one of those people that watch women in 96 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: swimsuits in a pool? Oh yeah, well that was not 97 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: the current name. But I I have Twitch on my 98 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: iPad and rarely check it out. But they're you know, 99 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: little girls will do in guys, all sorts of people 100 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: that will take you out to dinner in like Korea 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: for two hours and just show you what it's like. 102 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: So I learned from it. There are human experiences there. 103 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: That's a great call. By the way, Dan on Mark Davis, 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: we really, who would have thought, what an upset like? 105 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: It all worked out perfect, partly because the NFL rejected 106 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: his and the Chargers plan to build a stadium in 107 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: l A that they were like, there was three different 108 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: plans that were proposed, and the Raiders plans were always 109 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: number three and they were left out in the cold, 110 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: and and it worked out much and you know beautifully. 111 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't take that away from Mark Davis either, because 112 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: all you know, my life, your lives filled with near 113 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: mistakes that the fate stepped in and said, no, you're 114 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: not gonna do this. This is how it's actually gonna 115 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: work out. But as long as you have some type 116 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: of vision, which Davis did, and if you follow the league, 117 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: and we've gotta be a little bit careful here because 118 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: the owners, including Mark Davis own own us essentially um. 119 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: But if you really do some research on where Mark 120 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 1: Davis was as a person in the spotlight within the 121 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: organization about ten twelve years ago, maybe check out old 122 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: Mike Silver Yahoo column if you want uh and to 123 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: where he is now. The Raiders are on the rise 124 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: in that cowboys kind of way where they are a 125 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: they're kind of a brand, a global brand and now 126 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: the business side of things is catching up to the 127 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: branding and it's a good thing. Now. They just got 128 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: to build a good team right now. It might be 129 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: a fun team, don't know about a good team. We're 130 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna get to that game in a second. We're also 131 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: going to preview Thursday Night Football with the tiny box 132 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: Who's gonna join us at the end of the show, 133 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: And then we're going to have our kind of post 134 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: mortem of week one with a segment, uh loosely titled 135 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: you know this, this is a working title how do 136 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: you feel now? Or how do you like them? Apples? Now? 137 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: How do you feel now? How about now? Where we 138 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: just kind of cycle through some teams after week one 139 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: and and have we have our arts change? Do we 140 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: have a different position based on just four quarters of play? 141 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: But yes, before that, and we'll have a special guest 142 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: connected to that conversation. But before that, Monday Night Football recap. 143 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: Now Car is running back on the field and the 144 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: field goal unit is coming off. What in the world 145 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: is going on? They want to get closer at second 146 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: down in fourteen? What else can happen? Kevin? I don't know. 147 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: Let's see, Car is gonna get the shotgun snap, they 148 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: pluck from the side, it's picked up. He throws an 149 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: arching passed on the side. It's called at the five 150 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: touchdown St John's the winners have one on a touchdown 151 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: pass thirty one yards this game, what's that done? But 152 00:07:48,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: we'll have fun. Sparts is the last conno experience Kevin 153 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Harlan with Kurt wahn Er Westwood one great call. I 154 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't expect anything less. Derek Carr after a Benny Hill 155 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: style mangling of the sport by John Gruden, strategically sending 156 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: the kicker on, kicker gets on late, get a penalty. 157 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: Why is the kicker even there? Why are you setting 158 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: up for like a forty five yard field goal and 159 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: there's four minutes playing overtime? Car runs back on the 160 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: field and throws a touchdown, the decisive touchdown for Narrators 161 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: who defeat the Ravens thirty seven and overtime at the 162 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: new facility in Las Vegas Allegiance Stadium. Greg uh, wild 163 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: back and forth game. He just it was a weird 164 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: feeling in the air and uh certainly a weird game 165 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: uh played out. Yeah, Derek Carr put it well in 166 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: his postgame. You know, interview with the ESPN with a 167 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: little bit of like wrestling flare to do it. I 168 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: like that this Derek Car and also with a intelligent 169 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: step back in terms of the look at his own career, 170 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: that the game was like his career. It's these huge 171 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: switch Like the first quarter, he couldn't you know, hit 172 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: the side of a barn. He was playing terrible. Even 173 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: in the overtime that throw to Willie Sneep, you know, Steve, 174 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: Steve probably should make that play, but it's it's coming 175 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: out too hot. You throw an interception on the goal line, 176 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: and if the Ravens go down and score, you're the goat. 177 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: But in the end, like Car was on fire basically 178 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: from about five minutes left in the fourth quarter through 179 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: the end of overtime, starting with that long Henry Ruggs throw, 180 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, to the game winner, and especially the thirty 181 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: seven second field goal drive with two nails throws to 182 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: Brian Edwards. To me, those were the plays of the 183 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: game to set up that game tying field goal to 184 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: go to overtime. It's hard to do get a field goal, 185 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, without time outs or with you know, with 186 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: with thirty seven seconds or left, doesn't happen very often. 187 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: The last three times it's happened the Raiders have been involved. 188 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: There was that win over the Jets last year. It 189 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: was the lost to the Dolphins that basically ended the 190 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, the Raiders season a year ago with fitz Magic, 191 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: and then it was this one. So I give I 192 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: give him a ton of credit for playing his best 193 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: when it really mattered and getting a win that you 194 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: feel like they almost needed with the Ravens coming in 195 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: a little banged up and the rest of the a 196 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: f C West. You know, winning that game, I think 197 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: it was a big win to start off the Raiders season. Well. 198 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I remember when I was at 199 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: their last game in Oakland and they tripped up in 200 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: a game they should have won against the Jaguars and 201 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: collapsed down the stretch and left that Oakland fan base 202 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: so beside itself. Um, you know, a quiet riot began 203 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: and then it was quelled. But you had to win 204 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: this game. If you're the Raiders, you're opening the stadium 205 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: for your fans. Forget last season. You mentioned Mark Davis 206 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: who never even went there last year because out of 207 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: respect for the fans. So it really concerned me when 208 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: they did. They're very Raiders esque thing and look like 209 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: they kept wanting to give the game away. I mean, 210 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: the tipped interception by Car in the end zone, which 211 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: should never have happened, was outrageous. But when you get 212 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson to fumble twice the way he did, the 213 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: first one led to a Raiders touchdown, the second one, 214 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: we know what happened there. I mean these were key 215 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: mistakes by a Ravens quarterback who in the past has 216 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: been tracked by ugly fumbles that have been costly in 217 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: playoff games. So I think that's a lasting issue for 218 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens. I don't come out of the game thinking 219 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: that differently about the Raiders, though I think a lot 220 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: of people do. I still see them as a sort 221 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: of a circus ride that's gonna have high highs and 222 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: disappointing lows. Um sort of a mirror image of their quarterback. 223 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I we don't like to I 224 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: don't like when you guys point out necessarily things that 225 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: I text you during the game, um without checking with 226 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: me first, which you never knew. But um, Dan and 227 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: I were having a bit of a back and forth 228 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: about Car, where I basically said look at if if 229 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield had had Derek you. I did later because 230 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: I did later because I thought, I know what's gonna happen. 231 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tweet this, and then he's gonna win the 232 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: game Car and I'm gonna have to deal with a 233 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: bunch of gabronies and I deserve it, but I took it. 234 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: It's well, it's unrewarding to tweet that kind of thing 235 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: if it goes south. But his first half was a 236 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: mess and it left you thinking this is just the 237 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: same Raiders team from a year ago. But Dan kept saying, 238 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr is a bit of a quasi badass, 239 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: and then a huge mistake would happen, he'd be like, 240 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: not a quasi badass, but then two minutes later a 241 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: quasi badass. And in the end that's what he was. 242 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: And I gave it totally to Car last night. I 243 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: thought his postgame interview UM showed a lot about why 244 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: is a wonderful teammate too, and it was a huge 245 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: night for the Raiders. I don't know if it means 246 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: there's still anything but an eight or nine or nine 247 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: or eight team. UM, there are signs that maybe they are, 248 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: But I came out of it thinking that was one 249 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: of the better Monday night football experiences I had had 250 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: um as an adult. It was a great fan experience 251 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: and if you're in that building that I mean, that 252 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: will go down as one of the great kind of 253 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: Raiders nights in a long time. Yeah, I think I 254 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: think car is like a quasi stud like he's not 255 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: really but in those money moments, And yes, he threw 256 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: the pick there, but I don't listen, I don't know 257 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: if that was even his fault. Put a little tip, 258 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: put a little mustard on it. But uh, I mean, 259 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: he does step up. You could tell he's a quarterback, 260 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: that his skills aren't at the level of a Mahomes 261 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: or maybe even not even at the level of Mayfield. 262 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: But I just think he's got a lot of moxie 263 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: and I think he's a good fit for that organization, 264 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: even if it seems Jon Gruden's never quite satisfied. And 265 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm also with you, mark On. You know, I didn't 266 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: come out of this game. We're gonna talk about what 267 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: what changed our feelings in Week one. I feel the 268 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: same about the Raiders. I think they're gonna they're kind 269 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: of like a they're like a big dumb They're like 270 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: a big Golden Retriever of football teams. They're they're sweet 271 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: and dumb, and they run around a lot and run 272 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: into walls and like they're just fun to play with. Um. 273 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: But they're also like the city that they play and 274 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: they're kind of a beautiful mess. And so I think 275 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: there's a ceiling to a Raiders team. The Ravens. It's 276 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: just a it's a it's a tough beat there. We 277 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: talked about it going into that game. That just seemed 278 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: like a tough spot for them, UH in primetime, first 279 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: game in Vegas, that stadium going bonkers, with the injuries 280 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: that they dealt with going into Week one, I still 281 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be Okay. We did. I did the 282 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: Power rankings UH on Tuesday, and I have them still 283 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: in the top ten. But they do have to clean 284 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: up two things. The offensive line's got to be a 285 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: lot better because the Raiders front that isn't known for 286 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: terrorizing quarterbacks have no problem getting to Lamar and Greg 287 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Jackson's got to take care of the football better. He 288 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: said after the game, Hey, that's football bumbles happened. It's 289 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: like yeah, it does. But if you want to take 290 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: the next step, if you want the Ravens to take 291 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: the next step, you have to eliminate mistakes like that, 292 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: because that last fumble essentially sealed their fate. I came 293 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: out of this game feeling a little different about both teams, 294 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: just that they look different. What the first fumble is 295 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: totally on Lamar. The second one I don't think is 296 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: on Lamar. I mean, Karl Nasson doesn't get blocked by 297 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, your new running back. First of all, the 298 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: offensive line makes the wrong you know, set up for 299 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: the protection, just let some run in a defensive end 300 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: and then you're running back who you know just got 301 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: elevated to the starting lineup, Tyson Williams. That makes no 302 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: effort and he gets hit in the blindside and under 303 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: two and a half seconds. You know, you would love 304 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: him to hold onto the ball there, but being aware 305 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: that quickly that that's on the offensive line ups of protection. 306 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: But that kind of gets to what I'm talking about. 307 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: They couldn't pick up short yardage. You know, the two 308 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: sequences in the game that mattered the most to me 309 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: were the end of the first half where they have 310 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: a short yardage situation and they can't pick it up 311 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: just running straight like Ravens power or read action type action, 312 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: and they give time uh to the Raiders to go 313 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: down the field and put some points. Then at the 314 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: end of the game, same situation, you're going in for 315 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: the game winning field goal. All you gotta do is 316 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: pick up a short yardage situation. It's second and eight, 317 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: third and four. I mean, it's not like it's too short, 318 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: but they couldn't just run the ball. And that's where 319 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: I think the Rayvens teams of old might be a 320 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: little different, and they'll get better as the season gets on. 321 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: But he doesn't have the same chemistry in terms of 322 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: doing some of those readactions. They didn't run a lot 323 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: of pistol. I think that was by design. It was 324 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: a lot more spread offense, four or five wide receivers. 325 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: And then, more than anything, Ronnie Stanley was terrible. He's 326 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: an All Pro left tackle coming off in excruciatingly huge injury. 327 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: So of all the things that you talked about with 328 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens coming into the season, Ronnie Stanley was probably 329 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: last on your list. He got destroyed all night, I mean, 330 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: and he's an All Pro and maybe it's just coming 331 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: off of you know, the a c L and he'll 332 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: be fine week five, six or seven. But if Ronnie 333 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: Stanley and Villain waver are both getting smoked all game, 334 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: then what do we have here? We have a lot 335 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: of we have a lot of deficiencies that maybe the 336 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: organization can't and Lamar can't totally make up for. To 337 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: your two points, Greig, they were three for twelve on 338 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: third down. Um, that's in. That's a typical for the Ravens. 339 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: And Stanley, who has allowed sixteen pressures over the last 340 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: two seasons, last night allowed nine according to PSF. What 341 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, that to me was the last night. 342 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, Um, and the Raiders look pretty good. Defensively, 343 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: they look better, at least they look like that. That 344 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: is a change you could point to because that was 345 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: obviously their chaotic I'm doing a year ago. And it 346 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: should be pointed out the Ravens had a fourteen nothing 347 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: lead in this game. They lost the game. It was 348 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: the first time John Harbaugh Ravens team has ever blown 349 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: a fourteen point lead. They were about the running game 350 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: and m last I feel like the Jets blew three 351 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: fourteen point leads last season. UM final point for me 352 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: on the Raiders side of the ball. Alex Leatherwood, their 353 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: first round pick, did not look good. He struggled with 354 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: penalties and UM did not play well. I didn't think 355 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: Darren Waller after the game, after a game in which 356 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: he was targeted nineteen times, which is a little bit excessive, 357 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: but still you get it when Jon Gruden steps up 358 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: at the lecter and after the game and calls him 359 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 1: the best or I've ever coached. And go check out 360 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: John Gruden's Football reference page. He's coached a lot of 361 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame players. And last thing, Cleveland Farrell. We 362 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: talk about first round picks like Alex Weather Leatherwood, Cleland 363 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: Farrell a healthy scratch in week one. Max Crosby is 364 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: kind of saving that draft class by being a stud. 365 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: Uh he was picked in the fourth round. I believe 366 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: in that same draft. But Cleveland Farrell a healthy scratch 367 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: in year three. I believe the number four overall pick 368 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: a few years back may feeling the heat. He sort 369 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: of put it out there that I know, I know 370 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: how this is and if we don't win games, I'm 371 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: gonna be back with with rich eyes and it's it's 372 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: more like a little presumptuous you know, maybe you know, 373 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: pushing DJ to the side a little bit sounds more 374 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: like Cleland Farewell if he doesn't start told it, I do, 375 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: because Mike, you know DJ, you know, move the sticks. 376 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: I call him the you know, smiling assassin because he's 377 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: this you know, good natured preachers on and then he'll 378 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: just cut you to ribbons. He'll he'll just rip you up. 379 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: He'll rip your heart out, um via social media and 380 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: whatever else. So what I'm telling you is he's got 381 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: a little black mamba in him, even if he's got 382 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: this smiling preacher's son surface, and Mayok should be aware 383 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: of that. He's not going to just walk in because 384 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: DJ will fight back. Just something, the track ahead of 385 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: the story is ahead. If you're not ahead at all, 386 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: you're right, you can win nine more games than Mayok. 387 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: Won't be won't have to worry about these things. I 388 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: cut that for social I honestly would like to and 389 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: just to see what the fallout is on multiple fronts. 390 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: I know it is. We really have gotten used to 391 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: saying whatever whatever it is we want. Like imagine if 392 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: this got back to Mike Mayock, he'd be like those guys. 393 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Well, he probably knows one of us, 394 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: and that's you, Greg. I don't think he has any 395 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: concept to Dan and I are I. I sleep well 396 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: at night, uh and feel good that this podcast is 397 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: a safe space for us to share unvarnished views on 398 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: our league. All right, let's move on. How do you 399 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: feel now? How do you feel now? When we to 400 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: how about now? The second time? You know when you 401 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: said that, when you go, how do you feel about now? 402 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: That's what makes it. I think that's what makes the typle. 403 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: Not we don't really like how you like them? Apples? No, 404 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: that's tired and done. That's done. It's over. Great line, 405 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: but right right, you know that's a damon special. Um. 406 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. I'm going to throw 407 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: out some teams um good and bad in terms of 408 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: results in week one, and I'll just see where you 409 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: guys stand on them. Do you feel better or worse 410 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: the same? Did a change fundamentally what you thought about 411 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: this team leading up to the season? And uh, let's start. 412 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: Let's start with the team that's number five five in 413 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: the power rankings, up five spots, the Pittsburgh Steelers, who 414 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: of course went to Buffalo and um delivered a classic 415 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers type performance. Uh, Mark, I'll start with you 416 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: on this one. Because you are very heavily embedded in 417 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: the A f C. North, I think I kind of 418 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: know your answer. But do you are you completely sold 419 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: now on all that high floor, low ceiling, low basement 420 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: type thing, high ceiling, low floor situation with the Steelers? 421 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: Is this just another Steelers team that's gonna win ten 422 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: or twelve games? Do you now? Well? I'd say this 423 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: if the if we find out that over the next 424 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: couple of weeks that the Bill's offense um is what 425 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: they were last year, then it only raises what I 426 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: think about Pittsburgh, and especially as a defensive team that 427 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: can hang around all year long. I think that like 428 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: the concerns were never the front of the defense. I 429 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: mean T J. Watt, cam Heyward unleashed total chaos against Buffalo. 430 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: Buffalo was you know, they didn't use play action as 431 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: much as they did it in years past, especially last year. 432 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: They were a little bit out of sorts. But I 433 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: think Pittsburgh put them in a very uncomfortable place, and 434 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: I could see them doing that to the Ravens to 435 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: the Browns, to the Bengals in their own division and 436 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: beyond the division. So I feel strongly about Pittsburgh on 437 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: that front. I haven't changed my mind the offense, though, 438 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: I also didn't entirely change my mind. Big Ben warmed 439 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: up as the game went along, but if you go 440 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: look at their ground attack, it was still stuck in 441 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: the mud. Nagi Harris played every single snap and came 442 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: out with numbers that looked nothing like he did. I mean, 443 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: we just didn't see that version of it. I know 444 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: they have weapons, and they made a couple of big 445 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: plays down the stretch, but I still need to see 446 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: more from the offense because you can't just do it 447 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: with defense. So I don't feel that differently about the 448 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: Steelers because I think going into the year, I said, 449 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: this is probably a wild card team inside a really 450 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: tough division that will win ten games and then we'll 451 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: see what happens from there. In April and May I 452 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: did it, but I was riding on like a psilocybin 453 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: high from a first playoff game in my team and 454 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: have been insid I us in middle school. So yeah, 455 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: I remember one of the early UM podcasts or mid 456 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: mid off season podcast was like the early over under ones, 457 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: and I thought, I thought the Steelers over eight and 458 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: a half was my number one uh pick overall just 459 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: because Mike Tomlins never had a losing record, And I 460 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: just don't see any big reason. I don't feel any 461 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: different about this team. All the questions you had going 462 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: into Week one kind of came true. Not sure about 463 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line, not sure about the running game, not 464 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: sure about the offense. They had two d and fifty yards. Uh. 465 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: We like the I like the defense. But you know, 466 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: they had a punt return touchdown right in this game, 467 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: and Alan missed two wide open deep touchdowns that would 468 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: have made it look different. It was a good competitive 469 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: game by like a complete team that's gonna be competitive. 470 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: But that that's sort of what I expected from the Steelers. 471 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: They gotta show me more to think they could be 472 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: more than that. I'm looking at our prediction page and 473 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't see them in the playoffs for you, Mark 474 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: and I and I see also the Steelers getting just 475 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: one vote from Avid car Derek's brother uh to win 476 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: the a f C North. So like that's kind of 477 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: where things were. Hold on, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, 478 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: wait a minute, can say, I still think. I still 479 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: think they're a wild card type team, that's all. I 480 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: think they could win nine ten games and be left 481 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: out of the mix too. I I that doesn't mean 482 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: because I didn't put them on NFL dot COM's precious 483 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: little page that I quietly a week ago thought they 484 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: were five and twelve. Please, car was the only one 485 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: team that you said wild card team. All right, but 486 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I didn't Sunday didn't body rock 487 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: my My feelings about the Steelers just pent pecking, notwithstanding 488 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: when you're when you're telling the audience. I saw them 489 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: as a playoff team metro in the season, and then 490 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: I go to this website and it says you don't 491 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: see them as a playoff team. You understand the disassociation there. 492 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: I just that's all. Well. I mean I also I 493 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: put predictions out on multiple formats and multiple you know. 494 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: So it's you've got to check the other three or 495 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: four places I predicted their faces. You're the joker in 496 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: the dark knight, You're just an agent of chaos. That's equivalent. 497 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's move up. So did you share your thoughts? 498 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: I think you did. Greg. Yeah, it was good and 499 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: they were. They were good. They I'm going to actually listen, 500 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: they were trench. How about the Bills. Well, while we're here, 501 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Allen and that offense could not get 502 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: anything going on, Greg, do you think that is a 503 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: sign that maybe the NFL caught up to Josh Dave 504 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: to Brian Dable's offense, or let it breathe a little bit. 505 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: They'll be fun. Let it breathe. The week one teams 506 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: that have great continuity, but maybe he didn't perform how 507 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: they wanted are the ones I'm not worried about, and 508 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: yet where I don't want to overreact. They Josh Allen 509 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: struggled against the Steelers more than once, not just this game, 510 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: not just last year before that, They've they've had a 511 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: good beat on this Bill's offense. They still out gained 512 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: them by one twenty. Like, I still go back to 513 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: that Allen missed a couple of deep throws. You know, 514 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: if that starts piling up week after week, I'd be concerned, 515 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: but not not concerned whatsoever. And I thought their defense 516 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: played pretty well for the most part. Yeah, I'm not 517 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: concerned about the defense. I'd say on offense, I'll point 518 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: again that like last year they were the fifth. They 519 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: used play action at the fifth as the fifth most 520 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: team in the NFL um to hide you know, the 521 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: fact that they're a little run averse. They're not a 522 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: run heavy team obviously. Um Zack Moss strangely like deactivated 523 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: before the game. Um they were the fourth least um 524 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: play action heavy team in Week one. I think they 525 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: got a little out of script. You miss you mentioned 526 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: the misplays by Josh Allen like they ply me at Miami. 527 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's going to be an easy test either, 528 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: but like Brian Dable, still there it is. But I 529 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: just trust all this all the still the same, you know, 530 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: parts in place. Yeah, And I think sometimes, and this 531 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: goes across all sports, sometimes there's just a team that 532 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: you struggle with that they for whatever reason, they're a 533 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: bad matchup for you, and and they kind of have 534 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: you figured out a little bit. And it doesn't mean 535 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: everyone else then figures you out. But it seems like 536 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: the Steelers would be a bad draw for the Bills 537 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: come January, for instance. Uh just they just play them 538 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: very well. How about the Arizona Cardinals. Okay, so we 539 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: have the NFC West where they were just completely overlooked 540 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: all summer. And then they dropped to quote a paraphrase 541 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: of Sesslers m in a bomb in the desert. But 542 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't the desert. It was in the middle of 543 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: Nashville on the Titans. Should we now view the Cardinals 544 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: differently or is this one of those Week one games 545 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: where we'll look back in a month and be like, well, 546 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: that was kind of stupid. I view him different, like 547 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was getting out of Chandler Jones, 548 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: didn't have a great month before he was gone all 549 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: last season. Now he looks like the best player that's 550 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: ever been created. Bad job, Bill, Bill Belichick. You know 551 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: he's he really could be a Hall of Famer if 552 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: he likes stacks. Another twenty sacks season. Um, it's not 553 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: a crazy No one more game to one more, I mean. 554 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: And then Kyler Murray And this is where I'm probably overreacting, 555 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: But my god, the the big place he made in 556 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: that game, you know, pff checks, the big time throws 557 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: he led the league in in Week one, The accuracy 558 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: that types of plays and no one else could make 559 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 1: other than maybe Mahomes. It just got me feeling like, Okay, 560 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: here comes. Here comes that leap Dan's been talking about, 561 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: and I think it was a little more gradual than 562 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: some people thought last year, but it was still good. 563 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: It was good from year one a year two. But 564 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: if he's taken another leap, then all bets are off 565 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: and this division and this team is nasty because their 566 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: top end town is just so good. They look so balanced. 567 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that there were gonna be issues 568 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: on defense in the secondary, especially the total reverse was true. 569 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: I mean they held a j. Brown and Julia Julio 570 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: Jones to like nine combined yards. I mean they were 571 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: non factors. Uh, you know, Derrick Henry was shut down, 572 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: which is the way to unplug the Titans. And I 573 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: look at Murray and it's like the whole thing I think, 574 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, I thought the type. I thought this was 575 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: the team the Cardinals in that division that was going 576 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: to be just by force of nature they were dealing 577 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: with with the other three teams, um suppressed, held back, 578 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: and maybe the coach goes after this season. I think 579 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: they basically it was sort of an exclamation point to 580 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: people like me that says we are not milk toast, 581 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: We are exciting in our quarterback it begins right there. 582 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's ceiling is completely unknown. We're only with like 583 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: three fours up the wall, and I'm very excited about 584 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: his play. I thought the Titans watching that game yesterday, 585 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: they looked even worse then the final score in the 586 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: highlights indicated Derrick Henry, who we said nine yards on 587 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: ten carries and you had a offense that didn't even 588 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: have a first down until like well into the second quarter. 589 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: Is that a team that we have any concerns about. 590 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: It was such a bad matchup that I actually am 591 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: going to give it a Chandler Jones won that game 592 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: as quick as quickly as or as aggressively as like 593 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: any one defensive player can just win a game. He 594 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: destroyed them. And then Kyle, like Murray's plays, felt a 595 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: little less about Tennessee's defense and more just like there's 596 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: no defense for some of the players that he made 597 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: some of the biggest plays in the game. We're just 598 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: incredible throws after incredible scramble. So I'm going to give 599 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: them a little bit of a pass and wait and see, 600 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: here's my concern. Like I had point to when Kyle 601 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: Shanahan left the Falcons um and you leave an m 602 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: v P passer and Matt Ryan behind and they never 603 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 1: reached those heights ever. Again, not the same way that 604 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: you know Arthur Smith's gonna struggle conversely in Atlanta now 605 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: potentially for a while. But Todd Downing was not a 606 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: thriller um when he was on the Raiders, um calling 607 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: plays and working with their offense to some degree, it's 608 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: just an unknown what that offense will be. And I 609 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: think we're in a time period now where if you 610 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: have one of those play callers that's sort of a 611 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: next level guy. I mean, he completely revived Ryan Tannehill's 612 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: career and he knew how to use all those parts. 613 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: So I want to see more because I think they, 614 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: if anything, the Cardinals sort of put a roadmap out 615 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: there on how to stop Tennessee. Right, have Taylor Jones, Well, 616 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: it's not just that, I mean, anyone that stopped Derrick 617 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: Henry in any game, it's been a very successful way 618 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: to do it. But yeah, having having a guy have 619 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: five sacks is also other way to do it. Greg 620 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: that's a really smart I think that's a savvy way 621 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: to Luan. If Luan is bad now and he's coming 622 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: off an injury too. It's like, you know, these guys 623 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: coming off injuries, sometimes they don't come all the way 624 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: back then that that's a concern. Julio is the guy 625 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: I want to see, you know, warm up a little. 626 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: Didn't come practice much practice, right, I'm not But because 627 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: you need to keep the faith, buddy, because you were 628 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: the one when they acquired him in the trade saying 629 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: everybody is saying that he's not that great anymore. Chill out, 630 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: go watch the game tape. But I did you know 631 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: he didn't have an impact at all. I'm giving them 632 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of a I'll give him a Mullian. 633 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: I think it's like it's for Greg. It's a chill 634 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: ax moment, total chill ax moment for Greg. Classic. Hey, 635 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: how about the entirety of the NFC East accepting the 636 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: New York Giants. I think we all feel pretty good 637 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: about where the Giants are right now, even with the Giants, 638 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't feel prettyo about where the Giants are. But start 639 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: with you mark any of the teams, and then it's 640 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: the East change how you felt about him? Not a ton? 641 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: Not a ton? I mean, I think if anything arrow 642 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: up a little bit on Dallas for me because I 643 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: think on offense, um, if they can produce that passing 644 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: game each week the way they did, uh, and you've 645 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: got a potential m v P at quarterback in the 646 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: best wide receivering group in the NFC. I mean, I 647 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: think they should win that division. Washington looked similar to me, 648 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: but the rest of them will see. I mean, I 649 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: feel a little better about the Eagles. I kind of like, 650 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: you know what I forgot. I I totally forgot about 651 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: the Eagles. It we'll see. I mean, I think they 652 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: are a team that's gonna be feisty if you have 653 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: an offensive line that good, a defensive line that good. 654 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts I want to see against the non Falcons 655 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: defense before I started going too crazy, but if he 656 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: just limits mistakes, like he'll be solid enough, like he 657 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: doesn't need to be a top twenty quarterback for them 658 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: to be a little nasty with the lines that they have. 659 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: I would say one thing though, Sirianni also, I would 660 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: completely forgot the Eagle. Sirianni showed total aggressiveness in that game. 661 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: I think that's a change for that coaching staff. I 662 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: kind of like that. I know they used analytics left 663 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: and right, but last year none of the was present, 664 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: and I think they really fit. You found an offense 665 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: that really fits hurts very very well. So far, so 666 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: good with the Eagles. Yeah, I think Greg your lock 667 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: of the week, notwithstanding you had a couple pre Week 668 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: one takes that checked out the Eagles actually being more talented, 669 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: especially on each side of the ball and the trenches. 670 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: I think that was you might have been money, might 671 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: have been marked, but that's but that's okay. Filter that 672 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: Eagles drawing. I'm always banging that Eagle. Checked the tape. 673 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: You can check it NFL dot com Game picks. I 674 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: don't agree. I actually, I honestly don't agree with the assessment. 675 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Greg didn't say that, but I'm 676 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: telling you I did. So we'll have to take you 677 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: at your word. But you wouldn't lie. I would com 678 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would not at work lie about anything. 679 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: Mostly you are an honest man. All right. How about 680 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: the Saints, I mean, weird game. I mean you cannot 681 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: take it away from him, thirty five three against of 682 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: the NFC North champion Packers. But I don't know, Greg, 683 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: A little bit of a snowball type game where everything 684 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: went right for one side and everything went wrong for 685 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: the other, and we shouldn't take too much out of it. 686 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: That was kind of like where I came down a 687 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: little bit, because, yeah, when you re watched the game, 688 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: some of those plays were just crazy. And they've had 689 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: a rough post Week one. So they've got six coaches 690 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: in the COVID protocol. That's a lot nutritionist and a player. 691 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: Hopefully it doesn't spread for them, but maybe even more 692 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: importantly just for their wins and losses here Marshall on Latimer, 693 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be out for a little bit with the surgery. 694 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport there, maybe their best pass rusher now is 695 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: gonna be out um with an injury, and I'm I'm 696 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: forgetting another injury off the top man. Oh yeah, Eric McCoy, 697 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: they're starting center, maybe like a Pro Bowl caliber type 698 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: center is gonna be out for half the season. So 699 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: they quietly had the worst week of anyone for injuries. 700 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: I have them as a wild card team, so I'm 701 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised to see them blow the doors off the Packer. 702 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: But I do think they do have the bones to 703 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: be competitive all year. Maybe make the Bucks work a 704 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: little bit. Those injuries concerned me. I think for me, um, 705 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: let's just look at the game itself. Absolutely, I think 706 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: Sean Payton's basically been amped up to do this. I 707 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: thought that they were going to be proven to be 708 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: a team mired in too much transition that had kind 709 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: of like a Patriots season from a year ago to 710 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: some degree due to depth in various places. But you 711 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: know what, they kind of just went out there with 712 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: a DJF attitude and dropped a huge, um, a huge 713 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: like a giant box of knives from the sky on 714 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: Green Bay. And I mean, I've never seen anything like 715 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: that in Week one and Aaron Rodgers's career obviously from 716 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: that angle was marvelous. And I dig the Saints for 717 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: what they did after the week they went through all 718 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: the nonsense like they came out as the team that 719 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: wanted it so much more. That's the thing. You could 720 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: just visibly see that they were, like, we want this 721 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: game more than you do. Knives everywhere, stuck into the turf, 722 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: into shoulder blades like a giant did they take did 723 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: they take them out of the box before dropping them 724 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: from the sky or is it just the box. No, 725 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: it's like imagine like like out of one of those 726 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: gigantic secret like aircraft carriers that are like half invisible. 727 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: It's like eight the size of eight refrigerator boxes filled 728 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: with um knives just gets dropped in the middle of 729 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: like the Saints huddle. Is it like up there? He's like, 730 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: I know, he claims space drop. Wouldn't it be smart 731 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: for him to have an alibi? He's in the stadiums. 732 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with it. It was a 733 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: military mistake. So it's like a Mickey Mouse type thing. Yeah, 734 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: it's like a drone attack where like you know, it's like, 735 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: oh good, we're just sending a drone. Everything to be fine, 736 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: but the accuracy isn't always the way you needed to be. 737 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: Just knives raining down and we spent three weeks talking 738 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: about in the wake of Sunday's drone attack, Like, I mean, 739 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: if they have depth ishes, they will be tested. But 740 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: they're some of their some of their skill players, Deonte 741 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: Harris and Juwan Johnson making the places like they gotta 742 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: do it, they gotta stack weeks. But those guys look 743 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: like real guys right now. If I had to and 744 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: we didn't know that if I had to make a 745 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: prediction on Fool's gold in week when I'm not on 746 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: the Jamis Winston train. Yet it was a fourteen completions, 747 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: a forty eight yards, five touchdowns against the Green Bay 748 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: defense that was just couldn't get out of its own way. Um, 749 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: you give credit to Winston, But the whole thing with 750 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: Winston especially is like when things are going well, he 751 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: can roll. But when they're when his team's trailing, if 752 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: he makes a mistake and he starts pressing, that's when 753 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: things snowball in his own way. And and when he 754 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: gets tested historically in his career, Um, that's when the 755 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: turnovers start piling up. So I need to see more 756 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: from Winston before saying that. I think their quarterback situation 757 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: is settled, But they everything else about the organization and 758 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: the team and the coaching was so spot on that 759 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: you just you have to give him a ton of respect. 760 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: So maybe I don't trust them, but I do enjoy 761 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: the Jamis Winston experience on balance. Here's my favorite postgame 762 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: interview bite from week one. You know one thing, my 763 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: trainer he told me, He said, what did you say? 764 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: He just told us to be prepared. You kind of 765 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: need the video the video visual as well, which is 766 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: he looks to the sky trying to think what that 767 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: trainer said to him. That's stuck with him so much, 768 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: and it just didn't come. He covered it up. That 769 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: was something like on there, you know, skills being shown 770 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: by Jamie. He clearly didn't think of it. He was like, oh, 771 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: he told us be prepared. That's let's keep moving and 772 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: he's got vision. But not everything is fully loaded at 773 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: this right, forget the lace Like first of all, the 774 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: laser guy whoever gave Jamis Winston is laceing should be 775 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: advertising that heavily. You know, I'm absolutely I'm the one 776 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: who did it. But he may be waiting like Dan 777 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: to see where this goes. I mean, you know, he 778 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: rolls out the campaign hardcore this week, and then he 779 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: pulls it on Sunday and waits things out, and then 780 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: based on the results, he could roll it back out 781 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: again and even invest more and billboards and all that 782 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: other stuff. But the trainer should even and go harder, 783 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe come up with a better slogan than 784 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: be prepared. But Jamis Winston's body looks totally different, and 785 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: his running ability in that game was as good as 786 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: I've ever seen him, and was was a pretty key 787 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: factor in that game. If if you've got a jamis 788 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: who can scoot a little bit, that is that is 789 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: something different that we did not see early on when 790 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: he was, you know, pounding those crabs. I mean, he 791 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: wasn't exactly fat Albert before he was he was able, 792 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 1: he wasn't. He couldn't if you look at his rushing yards, 793 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: especially his first three years three, he couldn't do it. 794 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: His legs picked him up some pretty good first down. 795 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: What percentage of listeners have never encountered any fat Albert content? 796 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: Kind of a like a sneaky, underrated eighties cartoon Fat Albert? 797 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: All right? Now, finally, what's the name is? Say again? 798 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: About now? Green Bay Packers? How about now? And how 799 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: about to talk about the Packers? We welcome on the 800 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: beat Reporter, the beat man for the Athletic Match, Nineman, 801 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast. Matt, how are 802 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: you guys doing? Really appreciate you having me, Thanks for 803 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: coming on. It's nice to meet you. It's pretty rare that, like, 804 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: I've never even seen your face. Any sort of man 805 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: could have come on to our screen and here he is. 806 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: We have no we have actually no way to know 807 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: whether this is the real match nine. You don't know, 808 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: but that would be weird if there was a fake match, 809 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: Nineman that came on the show today. Um, what we're 810 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: talking about here, Matt, welcome to the show. It's dumb. Um. 811 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 1: What we're talking about here is teams after week one? 812 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: Does it change how we feel about them? And I 813 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: feel like a guy like you who was boots on 814 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: the ground, was there all through the spring and summer 815 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers nonsense and then a training camp or 816 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: things seemed to be back under control and then what 817 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: we saw Sunday, which was just a catastrophe organizational? Did 818 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: it change how you feel about the team? Not drastically. 819 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean all preseason I heard them talk about their 820 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: laser focus, their understanding of the magnitude of this season. Um, 821 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: given everything that went on with Rogers this summer and 822 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: everything that is likely to happen after this season, they 823 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: know this could be his last season. And they all 824 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: spoke about their potential and their expectations after two straight 825 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game losses, and Aaron Rodgers said it himself 826 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: at that first introductory not introductory, but his first press 827 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: conference of training camp. One of the main reasons he 828 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: came back is because he knows they have a super 829 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: Bowl caliber roster. That team that I watched in Jacksonville 830 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday looks like it does not belong in this league. Now. 831 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: In nineteen, they had a similar performance against the Chargers 832 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: in l A, a losing Chargers team and they lost 833 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 1: to eleven. They got blown out in Tampa last regular season, 834 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: so you have these kind of flute games. I'll be 835 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: more concerned if I'm the Packers if it happens on 836 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: Monday night against Detroit, then they have a trip to 837 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: the forty Niners and then the Steelers at home after that. 838 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: So anomaly for now if it happens again, a concern. 839 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: If it happens a third time, a trend doesn't really 840 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: change the way I view them as a whole. Maybe 841 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: just gives me a couple more reservations about what they're 842 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: really made of this year. You know, one one question 843 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: I have for you though, because um, I saw this 844 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: from you on Twitter and you noted this quote from 845 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers after the game that we he said we 846 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: probably felt like we were gonna go up and down 847 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: the field on whoever they had out there, So there 848 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 1: was a sense of overconfidence. And your your line above 849 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: that um pitching your article was on Sunday, they the 850 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: Packers seem full full of themselves, in fact, according to 851 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: the QB. And you also mentioned on your pod No, 852 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: it was that that caught my eye because I thought 853 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: that that was a deserving um slight to a Packers 854 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: team that came out a little bit too um excited 855 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: about themselves. You also mentioned on your pod that they 856 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 1: had twenty seven guys according to Matt Lafleur, who were 857 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: potential team leader type you know, elements in the locker room. 858 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: So that tells you it is a veteran heavy leadership 859 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: heavy room. When I look at what happened on Sunday, 860 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: how does that happen to a Packers team with a 861 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers with consistency at the head coach level, and 862 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: that meant that much leadership on the roster. That's a 863 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: fantastic question, and it's something I've been trying to figure out. 864 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: You know, the reason I wrote that is because just 865 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: last week Davante Adams was out of podium inside lambeau 866 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: Field and said, this is one of the not one 867 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: of He said, this is the hungriest team I've been 868 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: around in my eight years with the Packers. So I 869 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: kind of played I thought it might have been a 870 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: little too corny, but I kind of played off it 871 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: because Aaron Rodgers was straight up asked, were you guys 872 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: too fully yourselves? And he said, yeah, I think that's 873 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: definitely a possibility. Now, what I don't get is how 874 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: is that possible? Aaron Rodgers, you have you know, Aaron Jones, 875 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: Robert Tonyan, Davante Adams, all eleven starters on defense. We're 876 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 1: here last year. The only new starters on the team 877 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: per se are rookie center Josh Myers and rookie right 878 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: guard Royce Newman. Like the guys you have know that 879 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: a game like that is possible at any minute. How 880 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: do you let everyone on the team, including yourselves, let 881 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 1: your guard down? And as you mentioned, Matt la Floor 882 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: essentially boasted to us last week when we were talking 883 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: about captains that he had twenty seven players received the 884 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,479 Speaker 1: captain's vote, and ten of those guys received double digit votes. 885 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,720 Speaker 1: In his two years here, he's only named one captain 886 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: for each unit. So it's been Aaron Rodgers, Zadarius Smith, 887 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: who was not named to captain this year, and Mason 888 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: Crosby for special teams. This year, they had so many 889 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: guys get captains votes that they named three for offense, 890 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: uh Aaron Rodgers, Davante Adams, Mercedes Lewis, three for defense, 891 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: Adrian Amos Jr. Alexander Kenny arc and then Crosby for 892 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: special teams. Aside from Elton Jenkins, their twenty five year 893 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: old left tackle who had two tackles on Sunday because 894 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: he uh tackled the guy who intercepted Aaron Rodgers both times. 895 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: There was nobody's example worth following. There was nobody who 896 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: looked like a leader out there, and football wise, there 897 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: was a lot that went wrong, but the intangibles of 898 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: that energy, that leadership, Matt Lafloor said, the Saints wanted 899 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: it more. How does that happen to the Green Bay Packers. 900 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: It's a great question. Did did you point out that 901 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: Mark's question was fantastic and great? You know you did 902 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: it twice because he said he listened to your podcast. 903 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: That might that might have been a little bit of it. 904 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: He went, he went were allies were now allies. I mean, 905 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: that's how this business works. You mentioned Zaius Smith that 906 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: that was my take, like Rogers timing seemed off. You know, 907 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be a long term problem. 908 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 1: I think they were playing a team that it was 909 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: like a playoff game to them. They knew what that 910 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: game was gonna mean, not just in week one um 911 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: to the city in New Orleans, but forever, like fans 912 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: fans of New Orleans will remember that game forever. And 913 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: I think that they were playing for a higher purpose, 914 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: and so that helps explain it. I'm more curious because 915 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: you've been there and we haven't had a lot of 916 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: Joe Barry talk this offseason. And Zadarius Smith, you know, 917 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: isn't a pent and it's probably the key player. And 918 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned he's not a captain right now, there's been 919 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: some behind the scenes stuff with him. Give me a 920 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: little feel of like stuff we don't know about their defense, 921 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: because the defense to me was a bigger concern, you know, 922 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: just watching that game, because I just assumed my Aaron 923 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: Rodgers in the offense will get it together eventually. Yeah, 924 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: I'll mention one thing about Zadarius Smith first, he only 925 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: practiced I believe it was four times all preseason because 926 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: he had a back injury that landed him on the 927 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 1: n f I list when camp started. So we still 928 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: don't know how it happened. Um before he came to camp, 929 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 1: and then he practiced the week they had the jets 930 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: here for joint practices. Uh, practice very limited, and then 931 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: it flared back up again. And I don't know how 932 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: much that had to do with him not being named 933 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: a captain. But immediately after the team tweeted out the captains, 934 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith tweeted wow with the emoji of him the 935 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: thinking there was like some contracts stuff too. So that's 936 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: interesting because he is their best you know him and 937 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: Alex Writer absolutely yeah, Zadarius Smith was a second team 938 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 1: All Pro last year and he has told me that 939 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: he wants to be a packer for the rest of 940 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: his career. Um. There, it's no secret he wants an extension. 941 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: And I want to show you this. I'm grabbing my 942 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: phone because he deleted this off his Instagram story, but 943 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: this was tweeted. This was tweeted out. I don't know 944 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: if you can see this. This is real beat reporter stuff, right, here. 945 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: He tweeted that he's getting a tattoo. That's his Instagram 946 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: story that has since been deleted. So new piece on 947 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 1: the way. He's getting a tattoo of a captain's chain. Oh, 948 00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: he's annoyed. So it's not happy about that. You know, 949 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,720 Speaker 1: it's since the leader. I have no reason to believe 950 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: that that's fake, but it would go along with his frustration. 951 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: That would seem to be what that tweet was about. 952 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:16,240 Speaker 1: The defense as a whole. It's tricky because I watched 953 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 1: the game back and there were so many communication issues. 954 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: Twice I saw Channon Sullivan nickel corner when they were 955 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: in zone point and I'm pointing to my left um 956 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: for someone else to take a guy that was cutting 957 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: across the field Marquez Callaway on the second play from 958 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: scrimmage of the game. Nobody took him, resulted in a 959 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: fourteen yard game. And then Chris Hogan on a touchdown 960 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: that I believe made it thirty one to three. Darniell 961 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: Savage Jr. And Devandre Campbell, their new veteran inside linebacker, 962 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: kind of just caught no man's land, and Sullivan is 963 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: left chasing after a guy who played in a Premier 964 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: Lacrosse League game three months ago. Now, I know he's 965 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 1: he's a proven NFL wide receiver. But as I said, 966 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: all these guys were the exception of Campbell since he's new, 967 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: but he's been in this league. Those communication issues should 968 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: not be happening against guys that have been on this 969 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: defense together for the last three years. I don't care 970 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 1: who the coordinator is. You know, it's tough to really 971 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: tell how much of Joe Berry's influence is uh part 972 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: of that thirty eight three defeat, But all we hear 973 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: from players every single time they talked about Joe Berry is, oh, 974 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: he has energy. He's a great guy. I don't care 975 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: how much energy he has. If you're given up thirty 976 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: eight points forty nine minutes into your debut as defensive coordinator, 977 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: that's not good. And his defenses in Detroit and Washington, 978 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: he was defensive coordinator in Detroit oh seven O eight 979 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: in Washington in fifteen sixteen, with the exception of Washington's 980 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: fifteen defense, they were, you know, the middle of the pack. 981 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: His other three defenses were the worst or second worst 982 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: in the league. This is the guy who was the 983 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: d C when the lines went oh, in sixteen. But 984 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: but Matt Lafleur just loves Sneidman takes down Barry in 985 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: a big spot. Berry hope he hope he doesn't listen 986 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: to this podcast. Well, I apologize for rambling, but you know, 987 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur was in love with the fact that Joe 988 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: Barry has been on Sean mcveigh's staff the past couple 989 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: of years and was under Brandon Staley on that defensive 990 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: staff last year in l A when Barry was the 991 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: linebackers coach. He wants to bring that, you know, to shell, 992 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: keep everything in front of you, don't allow the explosive 993 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 1: play style that frustrated Lafleur so much when they were 994 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: preparing for the Rams in the playoffs last year that 995 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: he said, you know what, I want some of that 996 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 1: on my team. You know they should do. By the way, Matt, 997 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 1: if they really want to um get back at overreactionary 998 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,720 Speaker 1: Packers fans, just bring back down Capers. Don Keaper's defense. 999 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: Don Caper's defense didn't give up thirty eight points to 1000 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 1: his seventh game as defensive court. Look at that, Paul. 1001 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: He did win a Super Bowl. You know we remember that. 1002 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: I remember McCarthy. You know, Matt before we let you go. 1003 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: And I know there's a national fascination with Aaron Rodgers, 1004 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: you know, pop psychology, and it's probably super annoying, but 1005 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's an interesting guy. And I'm just curious 1006 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: somebody that's there, um, because I'm watching this guy ever 1007 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: since he's emerged from Hawaii or wherever he was I 1008 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: think it was Hawaii, um. And he's got the weird hair, 1009 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: and he's dressing different, he's playing a guitar, like is 1010 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:30,399 Speaker 1: he an entering like the eccentric, intellectual millionaire portion of 1011 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 1: his life? And if that's so, can you also marry 1012 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: that with being a professional quarterback of great skill? I 1013 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: certainly think so. Now this is only my third year 1014 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: covering him, but in the past couple of years he's 1015 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: seemed to take more of an outside football approach, and 1016 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,399 Speaker 1: whether it's with us or when he goes on Pat 1017 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 1: McAfee's show every Tuesday talking about things that he's doing 1018 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,479 Speaker 1: to better himself outside football. And there's absolutely nothing wrong 1019 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: with that. His mental health, all that stuff, UM, totally 1020 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 1: for that. I don't think that has anything to do 1021 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: with football. If anything, it is better because he talks 1022 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: so much about headspace and being in a good headspace 1023 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 1: after everything that's gone on in the past couple of years, 1024 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 1: drafting Jordan's love this offseason, it's important to have good 1025 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: mental health and being a good headspace. A normal person 1026 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: like myself would probably get my underwear and a bunch 1027 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,280 Speaker 1: about all that stuff. But while he has certainly at times, 1028 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it's affected his play on the field. 1029 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,919 Speaker 1: Now I see these wild conspiracy theorists out there saying 1030 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 1: he only came back because he wants to sabotage the 1031 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: team from the inside. I would love that because that 1032 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: would be fantastic theater to cover as a reporter. But 1033 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: that was Greg's theory, by the way. But I don't 1034 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 1: think there's really any correlation. He certainly does seem to 1035 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: be entering that phase of his life. Maybe it's because uh, 1036 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 1: he's engaged now and and shleeen Woodley is having an 1037 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: effect on him. Again, I'm not saying that's bad, but 1038 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: maybe this is a little bit of a different Aaron 1039 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: Rodgers and people are loosing are used to um that 1040 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 1: may not sit well with them, But whatever floats his boat, 1041 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: and as long as he keeps playing not like he 1042 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: did on Sunday. I think all will be well in 1043 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay and that starts with Detroit on Monday night. 1044 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 1: And you're a Syracuse man, so you know journalism. You 1045 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: were trained in the best place to get that education. 1046 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: And you know you do not root for teams. You 1047 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: don't for players. You root for stories. And what would 1048 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: be a better story than Aaron Rodgers trying to implode 1049 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: the Packers from the inside. I don't know that would 1050 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: that would get pretty dark. Yeah, we we won't cut 1051 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,879 Speaker 1: that little portion um and send it out to all 1052 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: the Packers. Listen you saying that's like I love for 1053 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: this team too, I said, I said on Sunday. The 1054 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: way Sunday happened, it was better for my job than 1055 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 1: if had one. I mean people, I know people hate 1056 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: hearing that and say, how can you listen? A team 1057 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: that wins a lot and goes to the NFC Championship 1058 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: Game is great. You always want your team to be relevant. 1059 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: I covered the Raiders for two years before this, and 1060 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 1: that was relevant for all the wrong reasons. Sunday was 1061 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: relevant for the wrong reason, and the story to cover 1062 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you were here because they took a dirt 1063 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: nap so that Yeah, you're blowing up then, and he's 1064 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: our Tuesday guests. We don't want Rogers McAfee, the punter 1065 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: could have that guy. We watched Sneidman, so follow him 1066 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: on the Athletic check out his podcast Head of the 1067 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 1: Pack and um yes, follow him on Twitter at match Sneidman. 1068 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: Thank you buddy, Thanks guys, really appreciate it. There he 1069 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: goes good guests. Put him in the dossier. Ricky Absolutely, 1070 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,240 Speaker 1: if anyone comes on and says literally anything nice about 1071 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: anything that I say at all, they will be an 1072 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: eternal guest to the show. Because I knew as soon 1073 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 1: as you said that was a brilliant question. I said 1074 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: something like that, very complimentary. I said, all right, two things, Um, 1075 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: we set up our guest well here and to Mark's 1076 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 1: going to have a good day like that. That's gonna 1077 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: stick with Mark for the rest of the day as 1078 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: he goes on post podcast and well, my job here 1079 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: is done. I mean I I I'll stay on screen 1080 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,919 Speaker 1: and you know, do all that stuff. But I don't 1081 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 1: need to say anything else. All right, you don't you 1082 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 1: know why because we're gonna do a Thursday night football 1083 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:35,760 Speaker 1: preview and We're gonna start a new tradition here. Whoa beauty? 1084 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 1: What's love? Everybody? I don't Connie, this is uh. You 1085 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: were a little too done up for our taste. You know, 1086 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: we get the dressed down. Connie, this is the bombshell. 1087 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: What's going on right now? Let me explain, because this 1088 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: all happens when I have to do it. Um, but 1089 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: I had to do like I basically lined up my 1090 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: day for all of my interviews, and anything I had 1091 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: to do on camera is today, so then that all 1092 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: the other days I can just be lazy and not 1093 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: do it. So, hey, did my hair, put on? Makeup? 1094 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: Was up? This is the right medium for it, right, Colleen? 1095 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: Are you prepared to offer the analysis at least the 1096 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: match of the analysis that you offered to last week's 1097 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: Thursday Night game, which I found, um, you know, startling. 1098 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can live up to all 1099 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: of the greatness from last week, but I'm gonna really try. 1100 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna really try. Okay, the recap. You don't have 1101 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,799 Speaker 1: the look of terror in your eyes that we might 1102 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 1: call on you. Please no, don't go to the I 1103 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna go to you. Please, please no, don't. Don't. Yeah, 1104 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 1: sometimes that happens. But the anxiety was well because I 1105 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 1: wasn't like totally locked into the game listen. But the 1106 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: least I think it's it was clear for for for 1107 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: all of us. You weren't you, weren't me. I'm ready 1108 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: to go. I was like really milking my off season 1109 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: every second that I could. Um. But now the summer 1110 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 1: of Connie is officially closed. So yeah, you must be 1111 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: getting on a plane. Yeah, you're getting a plane, right, 1112 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 1: You're going to this game. Connie Fox gets on a plane. 1113 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: She heads to d C, where the Washington football team 1114 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: will welcome the New York Giants. Both teams coming off 1115 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 1: losses in Week one, and Washington lost more than the game. 1116 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: They lost their quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, which, let's face it, 1117 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: we just had Matt Schneidermann on. And if you're a 1118 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: broadcaster or a journal you're rooting for the story, and 1119 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: Connie obviously rooting for fitz Magic to be up on 1120 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: the dais at the end of the game because he's 1121 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: always so much fun. You won't have Ryan Fitzpatrick. And 1122 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Connie. We'll start here as the 1123 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: Tyler Heineke era begins, we might not see Ryan fitz 1124 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick at all. I watched uh NFL Network yesterday and 1125 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: Ian Rapports said, it's on the table. It's not off 1126 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: the table. He said that Fitzpatrick has done for the season. 1127 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: So this is Heinekes show for now against a Giants 1128 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: team that desperately needs a w here coming off a 1129 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: very sappointing Week one performance themselves. I really hate this 1130 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: for Ryan Fitzpatrick, but I hate it even more for 1131 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: me because I really love doing Thursday night football when 1132 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 1: Ryan quarterback. It truly is and that is something that 1133 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: I was really looking forward to. It's obviously not going 1134 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: to happen. But Taylor Heineke actually was not bad in 1135 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 1: relief of Fitzy. He came in, he only missed on 1136 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 1: four passes, and when you think back to last year 1137 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: when the Washington team played the Bucks in the wild 1138 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: card game, Heineke was pretty good in that game against 1139 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: the box. So he definitely can make plays. He's athletic, 1140 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: he has some mobility too, so there's there's some similarities 1141 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: with Fitzy because he did scramble on a couple of 1142 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: plays as well. Um and I think it's kind of Uh. 1143 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of remarkable that he's a former 1144 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent and this is his fifth team and 1145 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 1: now based on what you just said and what Ian 1146 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 1: Rappaport had said, like he might be starting the whole 1147 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: season if that is the case, if Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't 1148 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: coming back. But I think that this team has some 1149 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 1: good chances. With Logan Thomas at tight end, you should 1150 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 1: get some more opportunities because you saw what Broncos were 1151 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: able to do against this Giant's defense. Noah Fan albert Oh. 1152 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 1: They both put up some nice numbers, had some nice plays. 1153 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,959 Speaker 1: But if Antonio Gibson didn't fumble the ball last week, 1154 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: I think Washington had a really good chance of winning. 1155 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: So I like this team a lot. The Giants they 1156 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: have a lot more issues. Yeah. By the way, I 1157 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 1: heard the heard the name, I was scene if Mark 1158 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,479 Speaker 1: wanted to jump in. Uh. I heard all last week 1159 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 1: during that game, the announcer saying albert O's last name 1160 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: in a certain sort of way, which is the opposite 1161 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: of what you know, which is totally different. On the 1162 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: Broncos website, it says, oh cooey boon him. So that's 1163 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 1: what I've been going with it that crazy to say, 1164 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 1: oh cooey Bonham, but they went with a totally different 1165 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 1: way to say it. And now I don't know what 1166 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 1: they said, like okay Bowie nom or something like that, 1167 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,959 Speaker 1: and I think I think he mangled it. But um 1168 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: they that is part of the Giants defense. I mean, 1169 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: rather the uh yeah, the Giants defense that I'm concerned with, 1170 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Like almost everything from that Giants game concerned me. I 1171 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 1: thought they had one of the worst week ones of 1172 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 1: of any team and they they gotta win it. I 1173 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 1: mean this, these two teams both came out a Week 1174 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: one I feel like looking a little worse than their 1175 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: ceiling we're hoping for going into the season, because I 1176 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 1: thought this was gonna be one of the more fun 1177 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Washington teams to watch in a while. But now we 1178 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: don't have Fits. I know, Heinik is kind of like 1179 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Junior Fits, you know, with that you know track record, 1180 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 1: being undrafted. Fits was the seventh round pick, you know, 1181 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 1: bouncing around a bunch of teams, kind of being a 1182 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: freewheeling guy. Like that's great, but you don't have him. 1183 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: You still don't have Curtis Samuel Adam Humphries wasn't exactly 1184 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 1: an exciting pickup, but you thought like the connection with 1185 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: Fits was gonna be something. So maybe you don't get 1186 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: the total Humphries experience. And their tackles were horrible last week. 1187 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: The Chargers were eating all game. They're starting a rookie 1188 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 1: at right tackle, Sam Cosmi, who is just who is 1189 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: a little lost, and then a veteran Charles Leno. And 1190 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: so you think of the Giants as the team with 1191 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: a bad offensive line, and they probably are, but the 1192 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Washington football team could be too, and we could be 1193 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 1: looking at a whole lot of defense. Here's the spin, 1194 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: Connie for you lose Ryan Fitzpatrick, but se Kwon Barkley 1195 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 1: now a week removed um from the idea that he's 1196 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: gonna see limited snaps now short week doesn't help things. 1197 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,919 Speaker 1: I don't think Kuan is gonna be the bell cow either. 1198 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 1: But the Giants are in an interesting, interesting position here 1199 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 1: is because you want to bring back your best offensive 1200 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: player in a safe, smart way, but you also gotta 1201 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 1: win some ball games here. And you know Daniel Jones, 1202 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: the more you put in his hands, the greater the 1203 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 1: chance that he lets it get away. So you need 1204 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Sa Kwan to have a role and make a difference. 1205 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 1: And you need that defense, which is the reason they 1206 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: stayed in the division race last year to make the 1207 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 1: type of impact plays that they made last year because 1208 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 1: they weren't happening against Denver. Well, this is like not 1209 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 1: exactly a gauntlet of a division either. So at this point, 1210 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: it's not you know, you wouldn't be panicking to start, 1211 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 1: oh and two, it's not great. Nobody wants to do 1212 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 1: it. It It seems like the Giants do it every single year. 1213 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: But this is the problem. Isn't that kind of crazy? 1214 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 1: But I also think too for Daniel Jones, like he's 1215 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 1: in a tough position because most of their top like 1216 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: what three of their top skill position players are not 1217 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: really one like us yet and they're trying to ease 1218 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 1: him back. But he only rushed for twenty six yards 1219 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 1: in that game. Kenny Golladay, he's coming off the hamstring injury. 1220 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't look either. And then Evan Ingram he was 1221 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 1: out for the opener and they're hoping that they can 1222 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 1: get him in for this. But Joe Judge said today 1223 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: that he's been doing more work. He's making a lot 1224 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: of jumps. They're hoping that he can start on Thursday, 1225 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: but otherwise you have Kyle Rudolph getting most of the 1226 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: work out there. So really it's just Sterling Shepherd who 1227 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 1: stood out in that game. And then Daniel Jones. He 1228 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 1: has the fumble that doesn't help anything. It's his thirtieth 1229 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 1: career fumble. It's forty career turnover. The only thing I 1230 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 1: will say that I liked about the Giants is the 1231 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 1: fact that their offensive line played a little bit better 1232 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 1: than I thought they would. I feel like that was 1233 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 1: a major sticking point for them last year. They didn't 1234 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 1: really address it in the offseason or in the draft, 1235 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: but they looked okay. And their left tackle Andrew Thomas 1236 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: is one player that really gets a lot of heat. 1237 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: He did not look good his rookie season, he did 1238 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 1: not look good in the preseason, and he actually played 1239 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 1: okay last week. Yeah, he actually got his highest pass 1240 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 1: blocking grade of his career, which I you know, I'm 1241 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: not saying that's a feat beyond feats, because there weren't 1242 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 1: a lot of high grades to begin with. But the 1243 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 1: other thing the positive I would point out for the 1244 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: Giants too is I think, um, they're a team built 1245 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: to stop the run. That's a very Dave Gettlman esque 1246 01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: UM scenario, but dexter Lawrence Leonard William Austin Jackson. I 1247 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 1: mean these guys, you know, they're like dudes that are 1248 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 1: eating like giant plates of like fish and ox meat 1249 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: every day. They're beefy. It's a big line. And like 1250 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 1: maybe if you're Antonio, I think Antenna Atenio Gibson looked 1251 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: great to me last week. Like if you can shut 1252 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: him down, um, if you can cause a turnover in 1253 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: the run game, I think this game will be close. Um. 1254 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: As for Heinik, I I kind of super enjoy watching 1255 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: him so I I hear you on fit seat and 1256 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,640 Speaker 1: especially from having him come sit up with you and 1257 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: then he just comes to the game. Now that's like 1258 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 1: I think it's podcast over and over and I don't 1259 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: know if I've heard that. I call him, I have 1260 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: to call him Fitzpatrick. I have to say the wholes magic, Ryan, Well, 1261 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: the magic is not happening when you're on you know, 1262 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: and you're undergoing the knife. So yeah, he's got a 1263 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: lot of fat. Then I know you're excited about that. 1264 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: The Fangs are coming out in New York. For Jason Garrett, 1265 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 1: I think it's like everyone the media like held off 1266 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,120 Speaker 1: one game and now now them and the fans are 1267 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 1: kind of like, who, Like, this is not what we need, Jason. 1268 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 1: You know the Garrett haters, they're strong. I've never been 1269 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 1: as anti Garrett as you are and others. But listen 1270 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 1: from Daniel Jones is your quarterback and see Juan blows 1271 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 1: out his knee like three weeks into your first year 1272 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 1: on the job. I don't know who's gonna fix that offense, 1273 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, they probably could go with more fresh thinking. 1274 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 1: If this doesn't work out, let's pick the game and 1275 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 1: then we have a big announcement to make who. Okay, 1276 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: I think Washington is the better team. They're at home, 1277 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 1: it's on a short week, so are we doing scores too? 1278 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: Sure Washington? Oh wow, Washington's favored by three and a 1279 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 1: half in this game, So I'm gonna try to thread 1280 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: the needle here. Washington gets to win. But it's just 1281 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 1: like a one point seventeen sixteen events of slug Fest. 1282 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 1: And I'm also going to predict Chase Young is the 1283 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 1: man on the podium after the game with Conny on 1284 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: the sati A set. Rather as you promise you one 1285 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 1: thing honey. Yes, if the Reds, the Washington football team 1286 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 1: rolls and mantes sweat and Chase Young and you get 1287 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 1: him up on the dais, will you introduce them as 1288 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 1: young and sweaty? Promise me that because that's what we need, 1289 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 1: or introduce it as a through and if they're if 1290 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 1: they're on the show post game, I will get in 1291 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 1: a young and sweaty reference. What if I just hold 1292 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,240 Speaker 1: on of them? Do you get out of it? Or 1293 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,440 Speaker 1: can you introduce the Yeah, if it's only half of them, 1294 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: if it's young Because Colin today, I actually mentioned young 1295 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 1: and sweaty, but right after it said that it was 1296 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,640 Speaker 1: a catchphrase. Um that is in process cooked up by 1297 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 1: Dan hansis are you going to drop young and sweaty Colleen? 1298 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 1: But not also mentioned it? Creator? That would be blasphemous. 1299 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: Don't need it, That's okay, No, don't worry. Dan will 1300 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 1: be mentioned. If I'm mentioning young and sweaty, I'm not 1301 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 1: not mentioning Dan Hansen. Well twist my arm. Good idea, 1302 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: Mark you're picking. I picked it for the site and 1303 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 1: I don't remember what I picked, but I'm gonna go 1304 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: with um. Well, I picked Washington. I went with the 1305 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 1: score to seventeen, and I think Chase Young has three 1306 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 1: and a half sacks in this game. All right, And 1307 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 1: I'll pick the Giants here just because the NFC East 1308 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 1: is weird and I just kind of have a feeling 1309 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 1: that Giants defense that we were just talking about didn't 1310 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 1: really show up last week, shows up and confuses the 1311 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 1: young heine key, let's call it to ten. Ju wept 1312 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 1: them last year. The Giants won both those games last year. 1313 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: Judge has dan number. All right, Connie, stick around here. 1314 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 1: Big announcement um. The Around the NFL podcast is proud 1315 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 1: to announced that for the third time we will We're 1316 01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 1: going to London. How about that the podcast is off 1317 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 1: to London next month, less than a month from now. 1318 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 1: And just a little cherry on top for the old 1319 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 1: user it will be for the Week five matchup between 1320 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons and the New York Jets. The boy 1321 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:19,799 Speaker 1: who will leave them in the Land of the Queen. 1322 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:26,599 Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. I know, I didn't know if Connie 1323 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,679 Speaker 1: was hoping to hear like a second part and it's 1324 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 1: like second part where it's like and you're coming with us. Wait, Connie, 1325 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 1: you do have like eight trillion frequent flyer miles because 1326 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 1: of your job, right, can you join us because we 1327 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 1: does have a job though, Yeah, I know, but come on, 1328 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,520 Speaker 1: the fans out there who have always been so incredibly 1329 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 1: kind to us in the UK. It's it's been a 1330 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,600 Speaker 1: lifeblood of this podcast, and we love you and we 1331 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 1: can't wait to be out there with you. We're gonna 1332 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: try to cook up some stuff to interface with the 1333 01:08:55,800 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 1: fan base. But if but if we went like get 1334 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: with other humanoids, what are we doing? Like I Reddit 1335 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 1: ask me anything, But I'm at the tiny boxes with us. 1336 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I would love, love, love, love love to go. 1337 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 1: London is one of my favorite places. I did an 1338 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 1: a t N meet up there one time without you guys. 1339 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: It was so much fun. But I have to do 1340 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,320 Speaker 1: the pregame show that day for that game, so also 1341 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,760 Speaker 1: a great place to do it at the game, I know, 1342 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,599 Speaker 1: first of all. But like you, um, you like you 1343 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,760 Speaker 1: know that we cook you into about fourteen hours of 1344 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 1: extra work and planning that you weren't preparing for. I 1345 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,760 Speaker 1: will know one thing, um, for the second time in 1346 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 1: a row. It will and this doesn't matter to anyone, 1347 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 1: but like it will actually be my birthday while there, 1348 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 1: so I continue to build on life experiences that are 1349 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 1: not shared with my actual nuclear family. Um, but yet 1350 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 1: with you guys. Hey, football is family Mark. That's what 1351 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,920 Speaker 1: they're telling me. It's not always um. I mean, I 1352 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 1: like that you're positioning this as if it's something you're 1353 01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 1: you're so you know, strongly upset about. I'm not upset. 1354 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm it's just it's a fat Well no, I'm shifting 1355 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,720 Speaker 1: into the mode where like a single woman in her 1356 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 1: late thirties, you celebrate your birthday for like a full 1357 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: month with like eighteen and nineteen events. So, well you 1358 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 1: heard that England. If we if you guys have the time, 1359 01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 1: it's only less than four weeks, but start those celebration 1360 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,719 Speaker 1: plans for Mark Sessler because he is coming to town. 1361 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:33,080 Speaker 1: All right, that's great. How fun is that? Well? How well, yeah, 1362 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. Hopefully we'll have a nice show. Well, 1363 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 1: we'll do lots of things and special preemptive thank you 1364 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 1: to Henry Hodson, the vice president of International, all the 1365 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 1: people over at the NFL UK office, Nick Pike in 1366 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 1: the whole gang and also Sky Sports. So we've had 1367 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 1: a great relationship with for years. We are not going 1368 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 1: back over there. Um if not for all of those people, 1369 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 1: uh and those um departments, So thank you to everybody. Uh. 1370 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,320 Speaker 1: We will interface with you as well when the time 1371 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 1: comes and we and we didn't say it, but we're 1372 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 1: we're back on sky Sports. You can watch that in 1373 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 1: the UK, but you can watch that all over the 1374 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 1: world if you get your sky Sports NFL package. We'll 1375 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 1: be doing hits throughout every Sunday. Little you know, it's 1376 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,759 Speaker 1: just endless self promotion, endless. It's endless. Look at me content. 1377 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 1: They just made it to our fifteen, you know, one 1378 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,679 Speaker 1: fifteen of this show. They might want, they might be curious, 1379 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,720 Speaker 1: they might uh, they might or they might have had 1380 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,640 Speaker 1: more than enough. I mean, I'm just saying that there 1381 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 1: are different types of people out there, so well we 1382 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,639 Speaker 1: do that often. Yeah, maybe as you get Bob out 1383 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:44,439 Speaker 1: there in England will do a remote throwback podcast. I 1384 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 1: thought Bob was anti a t N podcast at the moment. 1385 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 1: Is he shifted off that? I don't know. It's he's 1386 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 1: a little salty about my promotion promotional efforts. I'm not 1387 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 1: like Greg who's like jr VP every Yeah, that's right, 1388 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,519 Speaker 1: eating up, eating up precious into the show, talking about 1389 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 1: his other show. I like it, Greg, I'm glad you did. 1390 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 1: How precious is how precious? I don't know really as Yeah, 1391 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,959 Speaker 1: all right, and Ricky, you're excited for London too, I imagine. 1392 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. We've been going back and forth with 1393 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 1: the UK Office and there's a lot of planning to do, 1394 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,720 Speaker 1: which I'm so excited about. But I can't believe we're 1395 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 1: getting back over. It's just gonna be there. Yes, Ricky, 1396 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 1: we can hang out when I when I'm there, I'm sure, sure, absolutely. 1397 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 1: How's your podcast going? Is that off the ground yet? 1398 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 1: The old split Ends pod with Split Ends Split Ends, 1399 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,400 Speaker 1: that's coming out in a couple of weeks. I think 1400 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 1: our launching is October four? Is it October? Fat? I get? 1401 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 1: I bet our podcast gets the China before that podcast begins. Well, 1402 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,240 Speaker 1: we've got I Heart Radio behind it, so we'll see 1403 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 1: what happens. But what could go wrong? Good stuff, good stuff, 1404 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, Annie. Check out Thursday Night Football of course 1405 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:08,280 Speaker 1: NFL Network and Connie's anchoring that coverage, UM pre halftime 1406 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:13,760 Speaker 1: post Jesus stud Alright, we'll be back on Thursday with 1407 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,400 Speaker 1: our week to preview podcasts, and of course Friday NFL Network, 1408 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 1: The True Around the NFL Show where we dig in 1409 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,479 Speaker 1: on all thirty two teams and yes, we're on to 1410 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:29,360 Speaker 1: London in less than four weeks to watch the Jets life. 1411 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 1: Life is filled with ups and downs. I'm balanced. It's good. Look, 1412 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,320 Speaker 1: that's a winnable game, Danny, that's a winnable game. I'm 1413 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,840 Speaker 1: making the Jets the favorite right now here. A good call.