WEBVTT - Sheep! 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.840 Hi, this is Mia. So before we get to today's episode, 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.160 last Friday, the rank and file of the Burgerville Workers Union, 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.280 which is the country's first successful fast food union, went 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:13.240 on strike against a campaign of disciplinings and firings of 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:17.040 primarily trans and POC workers by the bosses who are 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.600 once again trying to crush the union. The strike has 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.160 worked so far, but they need support from the community 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.200 to help pay workers and help these people feed their 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.600 families so they can continue fighting the boss's capitalism and 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.960 building democracy in the workplace. You can go to Bitley's 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.880 Slash Burger Defense to do it. To their funds, we 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.519 will have links to that description. And yeah, thank you 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.400 all so much, and now on to the. 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:50.480 Show, BA and welcome to it could happen. Sheer part 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.000 of wool Zone Media. I am one of your hosts, 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.680 DJ Daniel, and I am joined by three wonderful people, 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:58.360 one of which is actually going to lead us to 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.240 the prom I didn't press record on my own device, that. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.520 Amateur. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.679 I cannot believe that waybody press for cord. Should we 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.680 all make a fine No no no no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:18.600 no no, it's gonna I'm so fucking stupid. I'm we're 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.800 gonna do it again if this is good. But you 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:25.000 know what, I'm keeping all of this anyway. Yes, I 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.480 am uh bah and welcome to it could happen? Sheer 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.720 part of the wool Zone Media Network. I am one 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.440 of your hosts, DJ Dani, but really I'm just going 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.520 to be listening as someone else walks us through. I 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.880 am joined by three wonderful co hosts, and I'm going 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.040 to let them introduce themselves. How about we start with 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.280 the person leading this conversation, James, How you doing? 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.200 I'm wonderful, Dinna, I'm very excited. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.280 And who are we? Joined by? Cherene? 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:49.040 Do you want to say hi? 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.000 Do I want to say hi? This is what I 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:55.400 sound like today, everybody. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:02:00.280 I apologize not part of the plan, but hopefully this. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.240 Is a fun episode to listen to me sound like this? 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:02.800 This is Charin. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:06.920 Yeah, I'm here, Scharen is doing her plague cosplay right now, 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.720 and we are joined by one other wonderful person. Would 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:10.760 you like to introduce yourself? 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:11.080 Hi? 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:16.000 Ged Mia and Mia also here. Yay knows nothing about sheep. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:16.640 Very excited. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:18.079 I'm very excited. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.200 Even though I sound like this, I need to be 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.600 here because I learned so much about chickens last time. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.400 Now it's sheep. Yeah, we're so proud that you fought 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.160 through to pain. By the way, ba, sheer and wool 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.280 is the full extent of my sheep knowledge. So you 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:32.880 know we got it all out of the way right there. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.640 Great, all right, butyway, let's get going because I've got 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:39.919 four pages of bullet points. Oh god, it could be 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.600 a week of sheep content. 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:42.720 Wonderful. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:46.359 All right. Yeah, so talking about sheep. The reason we're 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.160 talking about sheep is a because it's it's passion of 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:54.200 mine and b because someone on the sumberreddit who's I'm 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.520 just going to get their username quickly. I can't say 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:03.320 the catiff. Catiff. We had one of those. They posted 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.440 sheep every day until until they guessed the breed of 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.160 sheep that I had in my mind. And when they 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:10.640 guessed that the sheep, I said I would do a 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.400 sheep episode. That was two months ago. I think they 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.600 did it while I was away in the desert. 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.679 Before they got it. They got it quick too. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.600 They got to like day I just searched sheep on 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.880 the subreddit. One of my friends like they were like, oh, 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:27.480 I look at the subreddit for your work stuff the 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.200 other day and it's just a lot of sheep, man, like, 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:35.160 what do you do? Yeah, but yeah, they did very well. 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:36.960 They eventually picked the sheep, which was a Scotch black 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:41.440 face and famous for being Justin Trudeau's favorite sheep, and 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.200 I got to get him in What You Can Strike. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.360 I think it's impossible to say that on a podcast 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:59.360 and not not try, I think, but yeah, hopefully, hopefully 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.360 we've sailed through that one. So when a we're talking 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.880 about sheep, right, when you're thinking of getting sheep, the 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.840 first thing I think you have to ask yourself is why. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.680 And that is a good question because obviously there are 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:13.680 a lot of work and they are like born ready 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:18.600 to die, and every point in the sheep owning process 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:24.760 you can that we are all born ready to die. 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.280 We're just here temporarily postponing the America because. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:37.080 They're covered in war and we die the war smart incredible. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.640 I'm many air horns and bombs right there. Yeah. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.160 I was going to say, don if you could give 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.599 yourself like a big old symbol, but that would be great. 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:47.159 Okay. 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.160 So yeah, so when you're looking at sheep, right, it's 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.480 a lot of work. But they're also very lovely and 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.599 I enjoy sheep a lot. They can be very friendly. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.839 They're a nice animal. They're not like cattle. Sheep seem 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:03.200 more personable to me. And you know, they're soft, which 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.320 is nice. So when you think about getting sheep, you 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.760 got to think, do I want these sheep for meat? 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.680 Do I want these sheep for wool? Or do I 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.440 want these sheep for milk? Those are the three main reasons. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:19.360 They are also a thing called park sheep. When we're 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.960 talking about parks here, we're not talking about like that 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.640 they live in central park. We're talking about like the 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.440 it's a big field in front of a rich person's house. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:32.000 I think this is probably a specifically British thing and people, yeah, 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.640 people are looking at me like it's a British thing. 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.920 So big stately homes for rich people in rural England 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:41.440 will have a big field in front of the home. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.720 It's a long driveway on it. That driveway is generally 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:47.680 planted with big trees leading up to the house and 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:53.200 it's like you've watched down to TV. Yeah, so if 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.320 you can, yes, a country of state exactly, so like 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:01.560 in that country estate, my dad by both my parents 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.599 and agriculture. My dad works. Someone had a large country 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:08.760 estate one point in my childhood, they would have sheep 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.080 in that park. But like those she aren't really there 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.000 to make money. They're there just to look fancy. So 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.320 that's where you get some really crazy sheep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.160 parkspah if you if you want to go and have 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.520 a look up Jacob's Jacob sheep, there's some there's some 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.599 audience participation. So if you guys get opened up a 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:29.880 tab and google a Jacob sheep classic like old Jacob 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:38.200 j y whoa, yeah, oh god, it's it's called a 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.760 polyserate sheep because it has multiple horns. I don't know 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.320 the ones you're seeing have four horns, but that's a 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.040 classic Jacob sheep. And they're piebald, right, so multiple colors. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:48.600 That's it. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.400 I didn't know horns can look like that. 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.039 Oh yeah, there are quite a few poly search sheet 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.440 Hebridean sheep sometimes Nawajo turro she if you're in the 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.440 United States like that too. So yeah, that it's an 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:01.600 option for sheep. 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.440 You know, just to paint a picture for anybody who's 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.559 not also actively googling this right now, so you're driving 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.760 in your car going for a dog and you can't 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.080 can't google something. This is, honestly, this is the sheep 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.040 image that I think was thought of when people think 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.920 of like a devil sheep or like these have sheep 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.120 like two long horns out the top and horns out 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:21.600 the sides. I may just be playing a lot of 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.320 Diablo for right now, but I immediately was like, ah, 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:25.400 demon sheep. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.800 If you check out Hebridean sheep, they look like like 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.680 a very death metal sheep there there, they're all black. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.760 Hebridean h E B R I D E A N 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:48.320 sheep yep. Whoa oh yeah same thing. Oh yeah, the. 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:50.520 Same time. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:52.840 Yeah, that's what you want to strive for our life. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.080 That's what I go for every time I get dressed 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:59.840 in the morning too. Yeah yeah, good. So you're looking 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.240 at three different types of sheep right, basically your meat breeds, 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.880 so they're going to grow quickly. They're going to be bigger, 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:06.680 which is going to be something you have to take 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.280 in consideration when you're handling the sheep, right, and they're 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.880 going to have more lamps. You got your wall breeds, 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.240 So they might be a smaller, they may need shearing 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.240 twice a year though, so that's something you're either going 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.920 to have to do or find someone to do and 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.160 they'll give a more desirable wall, right. And there are 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.080 different types of wool for different things, so that's something 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.360 you might look into it, Like if you're considering spinning 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.640 or you know you're getting these sheep primarily so you 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:33.960 can go from like farm to jumper, then you need 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.240 to look into that. And I don't actually know how 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.240 you sell wool in the US and the UK. It 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.560 was kind of a centralized sale. It's not it's not 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.640 worth fuck all for the most part, at least unless 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.040 you've got something like the Reno sheep. So like don't 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.880 be getting wools sheep and thinking like, oh hell yeah, 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.120 I'm going to make my fortune in the wall market. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:54.760 That ship. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:59.560 That ship has sailed centuries ago. So kind of the 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.560 class sheep you're looking at for, Like, a lot of 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.280 the sheep that you're going to see, at least in 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.280 the UK are very often mules, So that's a cross 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.720 breed of sheep. It's a blue face or border lester 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.840 ram over a hill breed. You, So hill breed sheeps 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.520 are sheep? Are there more hardy, right, they're the ones 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.559 that live out on the Yorkshire Dales or up in 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.600 the Lake district. Right when you see sheep up there, 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:25.800 there's going to be hill breed sheep. One of the 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.800 advantages of hill breeds is they can often be hefted. 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:30.600 Are we familiar with hefting? 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.160 No? Never, Okay. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.120 Hefting is when a sheep knows where its home is, 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.160 so it doesn't have to necessarily be fenced in. It 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:44.199 will come back there. So yeah, yeah, it's it's it's 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.080 a animal that lives out on the hills, but like 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:47.560 it knows where to come back to. It's not just 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.400 going to be like sort of go mincing off to 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.280 try and explore somewhere new, like it will come back. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.840 That is not a characteristic of all breeds of sheep. 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:59.439 Like you will talk about fencing, definitely, most sheep need 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.360 to be fenced in or they will to get out. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.440 Some of them are very acrobatic. But yeah, these guys, 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.320 they can be hefted. H'll breed some hill bredes can 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.080 be hefted so well. That means it's passed down the 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.240 maternal line, so you're going to have to to retain 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.240 that maternal line. Right, So as you're breeding your sheep, 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.560 going to have to keep the U to the you 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.319 lamb and you're going to have to keep that line 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.640 because they will teach their lamps to where to come 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:25.000 back to. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:26.760 Basically, right, that's. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:27.920 A really dumb question. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:28.600 Please. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.360 I recognize it's dumb, and I can google it later, 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:32.120 but I need to know. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.199 Okay, I don't someone that doesn't eat a lot of meat. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:39.199 Okay, do we only eat lamb meat? Does anyone eat 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:40.840 sheep meat? 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:41.960 Sheep meat? 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:46.160 Yeah, that's called mushian much. I have heard of mutton 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.760 so much sheep? Yeah, have you heard that from? Have 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.439 you heard the phrase mutton dressed a lamb? 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:53.080 No? 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.000 No, I think it's rather. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:56.319 Like a British one. 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:58.960 Yeah, it's definitely probably British, right. I think it's rather sexist. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.760 Is using condescending way for people who you think are 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.559 dressing too young for their age. I guess so you 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.160 might be familiar with that. I thought it might be 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:08.800 a good but no, I thought I had a way 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.360 to explain it to you. But no, Mutton, Yeah, mutton 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.320 is the older sheep. So there are some breeds that 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:17.720 you get for mutton. It's not very popular like Americans 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.199 don't eat as much lamb as British people do, and 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.240 I think New Zealanders eat a lot of it too, 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.560 but it's not as common here, So it's relatively common 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.400 in the UK. Like if you went to a zoopmarket, you'll 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.800 see it mutton not so much you have to cook 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.800 it for longer in search, yes they do. 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:39.439 Yeah, yeah. Eat a lot of sheep too, interesting. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:43.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, there are lots of It's it's a 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:44.960 very hardy like you can have sheep and a lot 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.760 of places where you can't have cattle. They're much tougher 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.840 animals like, and they don't need as much grazing, right, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.480 It's just not as much biomass on a sheep. So 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.920 like that's why when you go to hillier parts of 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.679 the UK, you're going to see sheep and not cattle, 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.760 because that that's the place where sheep can live. They 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.280 don't need is quality of grazing for the most part. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:09.680 So let me go through a few breeds of sheep, 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.440 and I'm going to go for what to look for 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.960 when you're buying a sheep, right, So just just some 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.640 breeds that I've sort of gone off the top of 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:22.080 my head. Here texels, and you guys can look these 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:23.720 up as we go. I think that will add add 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.439 to the entertainment factor for the listeners at home. So texels, 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.160 they are big units and not as big some of 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.400 other such we're going to talk about. They're thick, they're 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.440 mostly like a meat sheep lean meat. Yeah, ugly. They're 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:42.880 kind of wide face and kind of the big dominating eyebrows. 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.199 Okay, they kind of look like someone stuck stuck like 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:47.360 a sheep pat and a dog. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:51.760 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're actually nice sheep. They're not 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.400 like we had textles growing up. There is mostly a 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.280 meat sheep with a bit of wool. Your next one 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:02.240 might be border Leicester, sometimes called a blue luster. They're 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.920 very recognizable that like the blue speckling on their face 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.960 and then a big Roman nose I suppose like a 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:08.720 domed nose. 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.120 They've got a big, big round one. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.800 Yeah, a big, big schnoot on them. So that's a 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.560 very recognizable sheep. They again like a meat and wool 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.439 sheep with slightly probably more desirable wool than texels. They're 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.640 also very good mother So that's something you're looking at 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.959 with sheep. Is it going to raise it's young, is 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.200 it going to stick around look after them? A boarder 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:30.920 lester's good for that, which is why they use in 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:32.800 those mules that I spoke about. It's one of the 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.760 reasons that you cross breathed them with a hill sheep 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.200 to make them more hearty. Right, this one is a 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:44.920 clean l l e y n because you probably wouldn't 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.559 got that spelling organically. That that's a Welsh word and 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:52.959 I'm probably mispronouncing it, but it's that's a's a meat sheep. 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.440 It's also got desirable wool. It's also a good mother. 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.680 They are big, they're like they're big units. My mum 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.760 had those. And so when one of the things you're 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.040 going to have to do when you have your sheep 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:06.880 is you're going to have to clip their little feets. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:09.840 That's the ways they grow too long, just like just 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.320 like you have to clip your own fingernails, right, otherwise 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.680 you need to do that. So and there's a way 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.160 to do it by sort of grabbing the front leg 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.920 and sort of dropping your knee a little bit, like 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.680 you're not just suplexing the sheep. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:26.080 It's a light suplex. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.560 When you originally talking about hefting, I assumed it was 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.120 something to do with picking the sheep up for some reason. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:36.240 The newer term is r kao ing your sheep. Okay, yeah, 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.360 so this lean sheep looks like to me, to me, 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.800 the lean sheet, is it lean clean clean? 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.960 M hmm, yeah, that double L sounding well, she's it 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:48.640 comes at you hard. 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:52.440 It's interesting clean. Well. Either way, this sheep to me 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.040 looks like standard sheep. You're like run of the mill sheep. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.200 When I google sheep, this is what I think of. 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.160 Yeah, that's what once I was sending you pictures of yesterday. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.240 Sometimes I'll send pictures of sheep to the to the 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.400 group chat, just for the increase the general well being. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.240 That's the only time I like the group chat. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:19.280 I'm kidding, it's true. Keep it up for you, just 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.240 just for usuing. I will keep keep sheep content coming. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.680 You got the Jacob sheep, we'll be spoken about. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:24.920 Right. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:29.200 So that's more of a park sheep. It's a rare breed. 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.600 So if you're interested in like a rare breed, it's 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:32.840 a good thing to do, right. If you're just a 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:34.560 person who's like, yeah, it'd be cool to have some sheep, 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.640 I have some pasture. Maybe you want them on a 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.800 horse field because horses will mess up the grass on 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.920 their own. Horses will will ship in an area and 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.360 that will kind of sour the grass, and horses will 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.720 then not eat that grass. Horses are not really you know, 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:57.920 great ship where they eat. On the other hand, yeah, 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.480 the horse, notice the sheep doesn't. So sometimes you have 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.320 a few sheep with horses. They can be companions as well. 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.240 They can be nice companions. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:06.680 You know. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.920 That's where the phrase get you know, the phrase gets 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.560 your goat. Something gets your goat? Oh yeah, yeah, that's 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.400 where it comes from. Keeping a goat with a horse 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:15.240 to keep it company? 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:16.040 Nice? 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:18.040 Is a sheep of goat? 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:18.800 No? 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:26.480 Different, different animals similar similar. I'm sure there's some kind 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.000 of genus species thing. I don't understand there maybe a 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:33.760 different species somewhere. Yeah, they're they're yeah, they're not a 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:38.280 million miles apart. So you've got dorpers. I think that's 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.160 a cross between of a Dorset and a Persian. They're 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.000 raised for mutton, so that's if if you're looking for 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.160 your mutton shoeing, that's where that's where you get that. 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:48.920 They have multiple lambs a year. So some of these 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.480 sheep will have can land more than once a year. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.680 Herdwick is a good hill breed. They're a very hardy 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.160 and a lot of those up around my dad where 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.880 my dad lives. Like I said, there are some rare 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:05.360 breeds which if you're interested in like having rare breed 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.840 sheep just to preserve like a type of sheep, because obviously, 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:13.160 like the the more heritage breeds are not as commercially viable, 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.800 so sometimes they get lost, right because they don't give 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.280 you a better same return on investment. So if you're 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:20.879 interested in having sheep just because it's cool and it 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.800 looks funky, the rare Breed Survival Trust is a place 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.320 to like look and I used to enjoy going there 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:30.240 as a kid and seeing different sheep and learning about But. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:31.919 That's not a good reason to get a sheep. 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:34.520 But if you if you decide you want to have 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.480 sheep anyway, Right, let's say you're like, I don't know, 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.040 whant a casts dispersion, So it's going to say a 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:46.320 horsey person, a person who owns horses, you know, like 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.600 if that is your thing and you enjoy yeah, a 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:53.280 horse person, Yeah, like a centaur if you're a centauri. Yeah, 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.800 if you are half horse, then you know you want 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.280 to you want to have sheep maybe to check to 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.640 improve your pasture or to not let the horses syre 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.879 up or the gross Then why not? 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:06.320 Right? Like? 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:06.720 Why not? 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.800 Because like if you get a if you get a 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:11.920 meat sheep, it's gonna be bigger, it's gonna be more work. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.240 If you get a very sheet that a lot of wool, 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:16.800 you're gonna have to share that a lot. So maybe 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.480 you just want a sheep that can kind of cruise 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:24.600 and be by yourself, then you know, why not? Yeah, 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.760 So we're going to talk very leafily about what to 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.240 do when you buy a sheep, and then we're going 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.080 to pivot to some other things that you can buy 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.080 which are not as rewarding as sheep. Yeah, which is 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.600 which is? That's an ad break that will do after that, Danel, 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:39.200 thanks understood? 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.000 Okay, I miss I missed that part. Afterwards I was like, wait, no, James, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.359 don't move on quite yet. I understand. Now, very well. 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:49.600 Done, thank you, Daniel. So when you're buying sheep, I 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.000 think probably what you want to do is buy some 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.119 yews that have already been bred, or a couple of 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.800 yews with twins that they're a flock animal, right, like sheep. 0:18:58.040 --> 0:18:59.879 They don't want to be on their own, So you 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.080 don't just go and buy like one sheep and be like, yeah, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.000 I've got a sheep. Now, like that's not very nice. 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:08.800 That's not that they'll be insecure and anxious, so they 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.600 like to be with other sheep. So I think the 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.000 way we used to do it when I was a 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.920 kid was to get orphan lambs and so like that 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.840 the mother either rejects the lamb or she dies giving 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:27.679 birth right, well, which can happen. And we used to 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.280 them bottle feed those lambs and like you know, when 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.120 they're very little, if you go out on the hill. 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:39.640 Do people have argus in America? Sorry you're looking at no? Okay, 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.080 Like it's a type of oven that like it's always 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:48.160 on it's a range cooker. Oh no people people? Okay, yeah, 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.560 I can remember, like where I. 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.040 Don't know what sheep are? You love me to know 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.040 whatever the fuck you're talking about. 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:59.520 No, it's good. It's so much learning. It's it's type 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.480 of oven that like it's in old houses and also 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.919 rich people's houses. Now it's become like a trendy thing. 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.280 But like way back in the day, I remember like 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.800 putting lambs in the bottom oven, which is like warm, 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.880