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Speaker 2: Show, BA and welcome to it could happen. Sheer part
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Speaker 2: the person leading this conversation, James, How you doing?
Speaker 4: I'm wonderful, Dinna, I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: And who are we? Joined by? Cherene?
Speaker 4: Do you want to say hi?
Speaker 3: Do I want to say hi? This is what I
Speaker 3: sound like today, everybody.
Speaker 5: I apologize not part of the plan, but hopefully this.
Speaker 3: Is a fun episode to listen to me sound like this?
Speaker 3: This is Charin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here, Scharen is doing her plague cosplay right now,
Speaker 2: and we are joined by one other wonderful person. Would
Speaker 2: you like to introduce yourself?
Speaker 6: Hi?
Speaker 2: Ged Mia and Mia also here. Yay knows nothing about sheep.
Speaker 2: Very excited.
Speaker 3: I'm very excited.
Speaker 5: Even though I sound like this, I need to be
Speaker 5: here because I learned so much about chickens last time.
Speaker 2: Now it's sheep. Yeah, we're so proud that you fought
Speaker 2: through to pain. By the way, ba, sheer and wool
Speaker 2: is the full extent of my sheep knowledge. So you
Speaker 2: know we got it all out of the way right there.
Speaker 4: Great, all right, butyway, let's get going because I've got
Speaker 4: four pages of bullet points. Oh god, it could be
Speaker 4: a week of sheep content.
Speaker 2: Wonderful.
Speaker 4: All right. Yeah, so talking about sheep. The reason we're
Speaker 4: talking about sheep is a because it's it's passion of
Speaker 4: mine and b because someone on the sumberreddit who's I'm
Speaker 4: just going to get their username quickly. I can't say
Speaker 4: the catiff. Catiff. We had one of those. They posted
Speaker 4: sheep every day until until they guessed the breed of
Speaker 4: sheep that I had in my mind. And when they
Speaker 4: guessed that the sheep, I said I would do a
Speaker 4: sheep episode. That was two months ago. I think they
Speaker 4: did it while I was away in the desert.
Speaker 2: Before they got it. They got it quick too.
Speaker 4: They got to like day I just searched sheep on
Speaker 4: the subreddit. One of my friends like they were like, oh,
Speaker 4: I look at the subreddit for your work stuff the
Speaker 4: other day and it's just a lot of sheep, man, like,
Speaker 4: what do you do? Yeah, but yeah, they did very well.
Speaker 4: They eventually picked the sheep, which was a Scotch black
Speaker 4: face and famous for being Justin Trudeau's favorite sheep, and
Speaker 4: I got to get him in What You Can Strike.
Speaker 4: I think it's impossible to say that on a podcast
Speaker 4: and not not try, I think, but yeah, hopefully, hopefully
Speaker 4: we've sailed through that one. So when a we're talking
Speaker 4: about sheep, right, when you're thinking of getting sheep, the
Speaker 4: first thing I think you have to ask yourself is why.
Speaker 4: And that is a good question because obviously there are
Speaker 4: a lot of work and they are like born ready
Speaker 4: to die, and every point in the sheep owning process
Speaker 4: you can that we are all born ready to die.
Speaker 4: We're just here temporarily postponing the America because.
Speaker 2: They're covered in war and we die the war smart incredible.
Speaker 2: I'm many air horns and bombs right there. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was going to say, don if you could give
Speaker 4: yourself like a big old symbol, but that would be great.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so when you're looking at sheep, right, it's
Speaker 4: a lot of work. But they're also very lovely and
Speaker 4: I enjoy sheep a lot. They can be very friendly.
Speaker 4: They're a nice animal. They're not like cattle. Sheep seem
Speaker 4: more personable to me. And you know, they're soft, which
Speaker 4: is nice. So when you think about getting sheep, you
Speaker 4: got to think, do I want these sheep for meat?
Speaker 4: Do I want these sheep for wool? Or do I
Speaker 4: want these sheep for milk? Those are the three main reasons.
Speaker 4: They are also a thing called park sheep. When we're
Speaker 4: talking about parks here, we're not talking about like that
Speaker 4: they live in central park. We're talking about like the
Speaker 4: it's a big field in front of a rich person's house.
Speaker 4: I think this is probably a specifically British thing and people, yeah,
Speaker 4: people are looking at me like it's a British thing.
Speaker 4: So big stately homes for rich people in rural England
Speaker 4: will have a big field in front of the home.
Speaker 4: It's a long driveway on it. That driveway is generally
Speaker 4: planted with big trees leading up to the house and
Speaker 4: it's like you've watched down to TV. Yeah, so if
Speaker 4: you can, yes, a country of state exactly, so like
Speaker 4: in that country estate, my dad by both my parents
Speaker 4: and agriculture. My dad works. Someone had a large country
Speaker 4: estate one point in my childhood, they would have sheep
Speaker 4: in that park. But like those she aren't really there
Speaker 4: to make money. They're there just to look fancy. So
Speaker 4: that's where you get some really crazy sheep. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: parkspah if you if you want to go and have
Speaker 4: a look up Jacob's Jacob sheep, there's some there's some
Speaker 4: audience participation. So if you guys get opened up a
Speaker 4: tab and google a Jacob sheep classic like old Jacob
Speaker 4: j y whoa, yeah, oh god, it's it's called a
Speaker 4: polyserate sheep because it has multiple horns. I don't know
Speaker 4: the ones you're seeing have four horns, but that's a
Speaker 4: classic Jacob sheep. And they're piebald, right, so multiple colors.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: I didn't know horns can look like that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there are quite a few poly search sheet
Speaker 4: Hebridean sheep sometimes Nawajo turro she if you're in the
Speaker 4: United States like that too. So yeah, that it's an
Speaker 4: option for sheep.
Speaker 2: You know, just to paint a picture for anybody who's
Speaker 2: not also actively googling this right now, so you're driving
Speaker 2: in your car going for a dog and you can't
Speaker 2: can't google something. This is, honestly, this is the sheep
Speaker 2: image that I think was thought of when people think
Speaker 2: of like a devil sheep or like these have sheep
Speaker 2: like two long horns out the top and horns out
Speaker 2: the sides. I may just be playing a lot of
Speaker 2: Diablo for right now, but I immediately was like, ah,
Speaker 2: demon sheep.
Speaker 4: If you check out Hebridean sheep, they look like like
Speaker 4: a very death metal sheep there there, they're all black.
Speaker 2: Hebridean h E B R I D E A N
Speaker 2: sheep yep. Whoa oh yeah same thing. Oh yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Same time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what you want to strive for our life.
Speaker 4: That's what I go for every time I get dressed
Speaker 4: in the morning too. Yeah yeah, good. So you're looking
Speaker 4: at three different types of sheep right, basically your meat breeds,
Speaker 4: so they're going to grow quickly. They're going to be bigger,
Speaker 4: which is going to be something you have to take
Speaker 4: in consideration when you're handling the sheep, right, and they're
Speaker 4: going to have more lamps. You got your wall breeds,
Speaker 4: So they might be a smaller, they may need shearing
Speaker 4: twice a year though, so that's something you're either going
Speaker 4: to have to do or find someone to do and
Speaker 4: they'll give a more desirable wall, right. And there are
Speaker 4: different types of wool for different things, so that's something
Speaker 4: you might look into it, Like if you're considering spinning
Speaker 4: or you know you're getting these sheep primarily so you
Speaker 4: can go from like farm to jumper, then you need
Speaker 4: to look into that. And I don't actually know how
Speaker 4: you sell wool in the US and the UK. It
Speaker 4: was kind of a centralized sale. It's not it's not
Speaker 4: worth fuck all for the most part, at least unless
Speaker 4: you've got something like the Reno sheep. So like don't
Speaker 4: be getting wools sheep and thinking like, oh hell yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm going to make my fortune in the wall market.
Speaker 2: That ship.
Speaker 4: That ship has sailed centuries ago. So kind of the
Speaker 4: class sheep you're looking at for, Like, a lot of
Speaker 4: the sheep that you're going to see, at least in
Speaker 4: the UK are very often mules, So that's a cross
Speaker 4: breed of sheep. It's a blue face or border lester
Speaker 4: ram over a hill breed. You, So hill breed sheeps
Speaker 4: are sheep? Are there more hardy, right, they're the ones
Speaker 4: that live out on the Yorkshire Dales or up in
Speaker 4: the Lake district. Right when you see sheep up there,
Speaker 4: there's going to be hill breed sheep. One of the
Speaker 4: advantages of hill breeds is they can often be hefted.
Speaker 4: Are we familiar with hefting?
Speaker 2: No? Never, Okay.
Speaker 4: Hefting is when a sheep knows where its home is,
Speaker 4: so it doesn't have to necessarily be fenced in. It
Speaker 4: will come back there. So yeah, yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 4: a animal that lives out on the hills, but like
Speaker 4: it knows where to come back to. It's not just
Speaker 4: going to be like sort of go mincing off to
Speaker 4: try and explore somewhere new, like it will come back.
Speaker 4: That is not a characteristic of all breeds of sheep.
Speaker 4: Like you will talk about fencing, definitely, most sheep need
Speaker 4: to be fenced in or they will to get out.
Speaker 4: Some of them are very acrobatic. But yeah, these guys,
Speaker 4: they can be hefted. H'll breed some hill bredes can
Speaker 4: be hefted so well. That means it's passed down the
Speaker 4: maternal line, so you're going to have to to retain
Speaker 4: that maternal line. Right, So as you're breeding your sheep,
Speaker 4: going to have to keep the U to the you
Speaker 4: lamb and you're going to have to keep that line
Speaker 4: because they will teach their lamps to where to come
Speaker 4: back to.
Speaker 2: Basically, right, that's.
Speaker 3: A really dumb question.
Speaker 4: Please.
Speaker 3: I recognize it's dumb, and I can google it later,
Speaker 3: but I need to know.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't someone that doesn't eat a lot of meat.
Speaker 5: Okay, do we only eat lamb meat? Does anyone eat
Speaker 5: sheep meat?
Speaker 3: Sheep meat?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's called mushian much. I have heard of mutton
Speaker 4: so much sheep? Yeah, have you heard that from? Have
Speaker 4: you heard the phrase mutton dressed a lamb?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: No, I think it's rather.
Speaker 1: Like a British one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely probably British, right. I think it's rather sexist.
Speaker 4: Is using condescending way for people who you think are
Speaker 4: dressing too young for their age. I guess so you
Speaker 4: might be familiar with that. I thought it might be
Speaker 4: a good but no, I thought I had a way
Speaker 4: to explain it to you. But no, Mutton, Yeah, mutton
Speaker 4: is the older sheep. So there are some breeds that
Speaker 4: you get for mutton. It's not very popular like Americans
Speaker 4: don't eat as much lamb as British people do, and
Speaker 4: I think New Zealanders eat a lot of it too,
Speaker 4: but it's not as common here, So it's relatively common
Speaker 4: in the UK. Like if you went to a zoopmarket, you'll
Speaker 4: see it mutton not so much you have to cook
Speaker 4: it for longer in search, yes they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Eat a lot of sheep too, interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there are lots of It's it's a
Speaker 4: very hardy like you can have sheep and a lot
Speaker 4: of places where you can't have cattle. They're much tougher
Speaker 4: animals like, and they don't need as much grazing, right,
Speaker 4: It's just not as much biomass on a sheep. So
Speaker 4: like that's why when you go to hillier parts of
Speaker 4: the UK, you're going to see sheep and not cattle,
Speaker 4: because that that's the place where sheep can live. They
Speaker 4: don't need is quality of grazing for the most part.
Speaker 4: So let me go through a few breeds of sheep,
Speaker 4: and I'm going to go for what to look for
Speaker 4: when you're buying a sheep, right, So just just some
Speaker 4: breeds that I've sort of gone off the top of
Speaker 4: my head. Here texels, and you guys can look these
Speaker 4: up as we go. I think that will add add
Speaker 4: to the entertainment factor for the listeners at home. So texels,
Speaker 4: they are big units and not as big some of
Speaker 4: other such we're going to talk about. They're thick, they're
Speaker 4: mostly like a meat sheep lean meat. Yeah, ugly. They're
Speaker 4: kind of wide face and kind of the big dominating eyebrows.
Speaker 1: Okay, they kind of look like someone stuck stuck like
Speaker 1: a sheep pat and a dog.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're actually nice sheep. They're not
Speaker 4: like we had textles growing up. There is mostly a
Speaker 4: meat sheep with a bit of wool. Your next one
Speaker 4: might be border Leicester, sometimes called a blue luster. They're
Speaker 4: very recognizable that like the blue speckling on their face
Speaker 4: and then a big Roman nose I suppose like a
Speaker 4: domed nose.
Speaker 2: They've got a big, big round one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a big, big schnoot on them. So that's a
Speaker 4: very recognizable sheep. They again like a meat and wool
Speaker 4: sheep with slightly probably more desirable wool than texels. They're
Speaker 4: also very good mother So that's something you're looking at
Speaker 4: with sheep. Is it going to raise it's young, is
Speaker 4: it going to stick around look after them? A boarder
Speaker 4: lester's good for that, which is why they use in
Speaker 4: those mules that I spoke about. It's one of the
Speaker 4: reasons that you cross breathed them with a hill sheep
Speaker 4: to make them more hearty. Right, this one is a
Speaker 4: clean l l e y n because you probably wouldn't
Speaker 4: got that spelling organically. That that's a Welsh word and
Speaker 4: I'm probably mispronouncing it, but it's that's a's a meat sheep.
Speaker 4: It's also got desirable wool. It's also a good mother.
Speaker 4: They are big, they're like they're big units. My mum
Speaker 4: had those. And so when one of the things you're
Speaker 4: going to have to do when you have your sheep
Speaker 4: is you're going to have to clip their little feets.
Speaker 4: That's the ways they grow too long, just like just
Speaker 4: like you have to clip your own fingernails, right, otherwise
Speaker 4: you need to do that. So and there's a way
Speaker 4: to do it by sort of grabbing the front leg
Speaker 4: and sort of dropping your knee a little bit, like
Speaker 4: you're not just suplexing the sheep.
Speaker 2: It's a light suplex.
Speaker 1: When you originally talking about hefting, I assumed it was
Speaker 1: something to do with picking the sheep up for some reason.
Speaker 2: The newer term is r kao ing your sheep. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: so this lean sheep looks like to me, to me,
Speaker 2: the lean sheet, is it lean clean clean?
Speaker 4: M hmm, yeah, that double L sounding well, she's it
Speaker 4: comes at you hard.
Speaker 2: It's interesting clean. Well. Either way, this sheep to me
Speaker 2: looks like standard sheep. You're like run of the mill sheep.
Speaker 2: When I google sheep, this is what I think of.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what once I was sending you pictures of yesterday.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll send pictures of sheep to the to the
Speaker 4: group chat, just for the increase the general well being.
Speaker 3: That's the only time I like the group chat.
Speaker 4: I'm kidding, it's true. Keep it up for you, just
Speaker 4: just for usuing. I will keep keep sheep content coming.
Speaker 4: You got the Jacob sheep, we'll be spoken about.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So that's more of a park sheep. It's a rare breed.
Speaker 4: So if you're interested in like a rare breed, it's
Speaker 4: a good thing to do, right. If you're just a
Speaker 4: person who's like, yeah, it'd be cool to have some sheep,
Speaker 4: I have some pasture. Maybe you want them on a
Speaker 4: horse field because horses will mess up the grass on
Speaker 4: their own. Horses will will ship in an area and
Speaker 4: that will kind of sour the grass, and horses will
Speaker 4: then not eat that grass. Horses are not really you know,
Speaker 4: great ship where they eat. On the other hand, yeah,
Speaker 4: the horse, notice the sheep doesn't. So sometimes you have
Speaker 4: a few sheep with horses. They can be companions as well.
Speaker 4: They can be nice companions.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: That's where the phrase get you know, the phrase gets
Speaker 4: your goat. Something gets your goat? Oh yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: where it comes from. Keeping a goat with a horse
Speaker 4: to keep it company?
Speaker 2: Nice?
Speaker 3: Is a sheep of goat?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Different, different animals similar similar. I'm sure there's some kind
Speaker 4: of genus species thing. I don't understand there maybe a
Speaker 4: different species somewhere. Yeah, they're they're yeah, they're not a
Speaker 4: million miles apart. So you've got dorpers. I think that's
Speaker 4: a cross between of a Dorset and a Persian. They're
Speaker 4: raised for mutton, so that's if if you're looking for
Speaker 4: your mutton shoeing, that's where that's where you get that.
Speaker 4: They have multiple lambs a year. So some of these
Speaker 4: sheep will have can land more than once a year.
Speaker 4: Herdwick is a good hill breed. They're a very hardy
Speaker 4: and a lot of those up around my dad where
Speaker 4: my dad lives. Like I said, there are some rare
Speaker 4: breeds which if you're interested in like having rare breed
Speaker 4: sheep just to preserve like a type of sheep, because obviously,
Speaker 4: like the the more heritage breeds are not as commercially viable,
Speaker 4: so sometimes they get lost, right because they don't give
Speaker 4: you a better same return on investment. So if you're
Speaker 4: interested in having sheep just because it's cool and it
Speaker 4: looks funky, the rare Breed Survival Trust is a place
Speaker 4: to like look and I used to enjoy going there
Speaker 4: as a kid and seeing different sheep and learning about But.
Speaker 3: That's not a good reason to get a sheep.
Speaker 4: But if you if you decide you want to have
Speaker 4: sheep anyway, Right, let's say you're like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: whant a casts dispersion, So it's going to say a
Speaker 4: horsey person, a person who owns horses, you know, like
Speaker 4: if that is your thing and you enjoy yeah, a
Speaker 4: horse person, Yeah, like a centaur if you're a centauri. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if you are half horse, then you know you want
Speaker 4: to you want to have sheep maybe to check to
Speaker 4: improve your pasture or to not let the horses syre
Speaker 4: up or the gross Then why not?
Speaker 5: Right? Like?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 4: Because like if you get a if you get a
Speaker 4: meat sheep, it's gonna be bigger, it's gonna be more work.
Speaker 4: If you get a very sheet that a lot of wool,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to share that a lot. So maybe
Speaker 4: you just want a sheep that can kind of cruise
Speaker 4: and be by yourself, then you know, why not? Yeah,
Speaker 4: So we're going to talk very leafily about what to
Speaker 4: do when you buy a sheep, and then we're going
Speaker 4: to pivot to some other things that you can buy
Speaker 4: which are not as rewarding as sheep. Yeah, which is
Speaker 4: which is? That's an ad break that will do after that, Danel,
Speaker 4: thanks understood?
Speaker 2: Okay, I miss I missed that part. Afterwards I was like, wait, no, James,
Speaker 2: don't move on quite yet. I understand. Now, very well.
Speaker 4: Done, thank you, Daniel. So when you're buying sheep, I
Speaker 4: think probably what you want to do is buy some
Speaker 4: yews that have already been bred, or a couple of
Speaker 4: yews with twins that they're a flock animal, right, like sheep.
Speaker 4: They don't want to be on their own, So you
Speaker 4: don't just go and buy like one sheep and be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I've got a sheep. Now, like that's not very nice.
Speaker 4: That's not that they'll be insecure and anxious, so they
Speaker 4: like to be with other sheep. So I think the
Speaker 4: way we used to do it when I was a
Speaker 4: kid was to get orphan lambs and so like that
Speaker 4: the mother either rejects the lamb or she dies giving
Speaker 4: birth right, well, which can happen. And we used to
Speaker 4: them bottle feed those lambs and like you know, when
Speaker 4: they're very little, if you go out on the hill.
Speaker 4: Do people have argus in America? Sorry you're looking at no? Okay,
Speaker 4: Like it's a type of oven that like it's always
Speaker 4: on it's a range cooker. Oh no people people? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: I can remember, like where I.
Speaker 3: Don't know what sheep are? You love me to know
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck you're talking about.
Speaker 4: No, it's good. It's so much learning. It's it's type
Speaker 4: of oven that like it's in old houses and also
Speaker 4: rich people's houses. Now it's become like a trendy thing.
Speaker 4: But like way back in the day, I remember like
Speaker 4: putting lambs in the bottom oven, which is like warm,
Speaker 4: but like not cooking warm, just like like warm warm
Speaker 4: when they were very little and they needed to warm up.
Speaker 4: So with often lambs, right, you're going to bottle feed them.
Speaker 4: You're going to do the stuff that their mother does
Speaker 4: for them. So that's a lot of work, but you
Speaker 4: know it's a way to get going. But they are
Speaker 4: more fragile when they're young. So what it was suggest
Speaker 4: is buying a couple of yews that have been bred.
Speaker 4: And then you just want to either like if you
Speaker 4: go locally to somewhere, then you'll you'll know that this
Speaker 4: is a type of sheep that can survive and the
Speaker 4: type of pasture that's near you. This is the type
Speaker 4: of sheep that can survive in the climate that you
Speaker 4: have with the food sort of available where you are,
Speaker 4: so it's probably a good thing. And then you just
Speaker 4: want to check that the sheep has some weight on it, right,
Speaker 4: and you want to check its teeth of course, like
Speaker 4: any livestock, you want to be.
Speaker 2: Checking their teeth when you're buying them.
Speaker 4: And then a thing I've run into.
Speaker 2: What do you sorry, what are you looking for on
Speaker 2: the teeth.
Speaker 4: If they're all fucked up like that cheap is not healthy, right,
Speaker 4: like like receding gums or like kind of if it's
Speaker 4: much older, that's you can tell. You can normally age
Speaker 4: an animal by looking at its teeth, right, like if
Speaker 4: you find a if you find the remains of an animal,
Speaker 4: to one way to see the age of it. So yeah,
Speaker 4: you go to the auction, right, and you don't want
Speaker 4: to check the vaccine status as well. I've only really
Speaker 4: come across this in the United States recently. Some people
Speaker 4: were rage posting on the place I go to to
Speaker 4: buy chickens because it didn't want to buy vaccinated chickens,
Speaker 4: which is just yea, yeah, because Bill Gates wants to
Speaker 4: know what your chicken is thinking, right, which is why
Speaker 4: he micro chips. Yeah, absolutely pricks. Yeah, if you don't
Speaker 4: want to buy vaccine, I don't know if you're listening
Speaker 4: to the show that this is not a concern of ours,
Speaker 4: I don't think, But yeah, check the vaccine status just
Speaker 4: in case you got someone who try to sell you
Speaker 4: some sheep which are more likely to get sick. So yeah,
Speaker 4: would would if you I can't fucking come up with
Speaker 4: an I don't know, if you want to buy something
Speaker 4: that's no use to you and won't give you joy
Speaker 4: instead of sheep. Here are some adverts. Okay, so we're
Speaker 4: back and we're still talking about sheep, and we probably
Speaker 4: will be for quite some time from page one. So
Speaker 4: sheep are actually they're quite clever. Sheep can recognize human faces.
Speaker 4: They'll know who you are. I've definitely definitely known that,
Speaker 4: Like especially the sheep that we bottle fed from when
Speaker 4: they were babies, right, they definitely knew who we were and.
Speaker 2: They could be very friendly. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice.
Speaker 2: They'll come up to you and they'll sort of nuzzle
Speaker 2: you and you can rub them.
Speaker 4: Our sheep were polled. That's another thing to think about
Speaker 4: when you're getting the sheep, right, the pole sheep that
Speaker 4: doesn't have horns where it's some people have horns, some
Speaker 4: people have more horns. So, yeah, they can recognize your faces.
Speaker 4: They can learn names, so they have a name, they
Speaker 4: can learn their name. They also knows that they're sheep,
Speaker 4: so like I know, my mum would just go out
Speaker 4: and go like sheep and then she'd feed them and
Speaker 4: they'd come. So you're thinking, you know, they've got a
Speaker 4: positive reinforcement mechanism. You can train sheep to go on
Speaker 4: a lead. So another reason you might want to get
Speaker 4: sheep is you're getting into into showing right, A nice
Speaker 4: thing to do if you if you you know a
Speaker 4: strange like me, I suppose it's go to like an
Speaker 4: agricultural show and look at different types of sheep.
Speaker 2: I like to do that.
Speaker 4: They can be really expensive now because it's also the
Speaker 4: County Fair and so people are going in to eat
Speaker 4: like deep fried stuff, which doesn't interest me as much.
Speaker 4: But if you want to go and see it, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: we could go together down I'll get a super sailor.
Speaker 2: Up and then back at the end be like how
Speaker 2: is your day?
Speaker 4: You won't be saddled with regret if you look at
Speaker 4: sheep and indigesture. So yeah, consider yeah, but it's nice
Speaker 4: to go right. You see the breeds are popular in
Speaker 4: your area, see different types of sheep and what people
Speaker 4: will do. At least I've never been to it, like
Speaker 4: an actual sort of showing sheep. I'll just go to
Speaker 4: the to the San Diego County Fair and look at
Speaker 4: the animals. But I've not been to a show where
Speaker 4: you walk around with them in the US. But I
Speaker 4: used to do that when I was a kid. I
Speaker 4: think of, you know, go to the village show or
Speaker 4: whatever and take the sheep and walk it around and
Speaker 4: then they'll judge your sheep right, if it's up to
Speaker 4: the breed standards or what have you. So, yeah, they
Speaker 4: can go on a lead they like more of like
Speaker 4: a halter, look around the nose, so not not like
Speaker 4: a collar. So that's the thing that you can do
Speaker 4: that's that interest you. If you want to get into
Speaker 4: sheep showing. If that's the case, you're going to want
Speaker 4: to get like a pedigree sheep right and really get
Speaker 4: it to it. You're going to drop some money. It's
Speaker 4: not really like I was never a very serious sheep
Speaker 4: show to be clear. It's just a thing for your
Speaker 4: child to do. When you go up in a rural area.
Speaker 4: They like I said, they like to be toge. They're
Speaker 4: in groups. They're pretty docile. Like sheep aren't going to fight.
Speaker 4: You're definitely definitely Like when I was at University of stuff,
Speaker 4: friends would come home and they'd be very scared of
Speaker 4: the sheep. There's no reason to be scared of sheep.
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever heard of anyone being hurt
Speaker 4: by a sheep. Yeah, I mean what, they're going to
Speaker 4: come at you a bit, sometimes they're angry or whatever,
Speaker 4: but like it's a sheep, Like it's fine, Like I
Speaker 4: would back you serene if it came to it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like yes, and their horns are mostly like not pointed
Speaker 4: towards you. I have been gored by a bolt, right,
Speaker 4: like I've experienced like livestock related injury.
Speaker 2: Sheep is definitely on the list of animals I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure I could take. Yeah, pretty sure.
Speaker 3: This next fact is fascinating to me. Can we get
Speaker 3: to this fact?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Sure, so definitely. If you're thinking breeding and getting rams,
Speaker 4: about like eight percent are going to be gay.
Speaker 2: It's just a thing that's going to happen, right, getty sheep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you wait till we get to the next one.
Speaker 4: Bere is it just the thing, right, You're going to
Speaker 4: get a sheep that's gay. It's it's a natural part
Speaker 4: of the diversity of any species. Kind of definitely know
Speaker 4: people who just spent a lot of money on pedigree
Speaker 4: rams and they've turned out to be gay. It's what
Speaker 4: it is, right, Like that gets me about this weird,
Speaker 4: stupid American. It's not just an American thing. But it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's not natural whatever. Like I don't know anyone who's
Speaker 4: worked with livestock in their life, well for for a
Speaker 4: number of years, will tell you that they've come across
Speaker 4: a gay sheep or cow or what have you.
Speaker 2: Some you're also going to get.
Speaker 4: Sometimes some sheep are called free Martins. It's a trans
Speaker 4: mask sheep for the most part. It actually has some
Speaker 4: biological differences. So like, yeah, what it is is a
Speaker 4: female that's been accompanied so like the twins or triplets
Speaker 4: or quads sometimes that has been a companied by male
Speaker 4: features in you to so they behave in a masculine way,
Speaker 4: and they might lack functioning ovaries. Yeah, you're going to
Speaker 4: get those two right there, So they're going to be
Speaker 4: a bit more agro, like a ram about you and stuff.
Speaker 4: But it's just to think it's part of natural diversity
Speaker 4: in species. You're going to see it. You know, you
Speaker 4: might have a gay sheep, lucky you, right, you know,
Speaker 4: chair as shit, take it, you know, it'd.
Speaker 2: Be nice to it.
Speaker 4: So white fleeces, right, generally we think of sheep, but
Speaker 4: Dana was saying you don't think of a white fleece.
Speaker 4: That's that wild sheep are often brown, right, it's being white.
Speaker 4: It's not a great camouflage trait. So when we see
Speaker 4: a when we see a white sheep, that's because it's
Speaker 4: generally been selected.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So when you look at the Jacob sheep, they were piebald, right,
Speaker 4: they had bits of brown on them on the white fleece.
Speaker 4: Being white have a pispe dominant trait, so it's for
Speaker 4: very quickly. And then if you if you're looking at
Speaker 4: the wall of a sheep, you want to consider you
Speaker 4: want fine medium, of course, wool long wool sheep. Right,
Speaker 4: if you look up sheep with long walls, some amazing
Speaker 4: reads out there. Those are mostly for breeding to get
Speaker 4: more desirable wall characteristics. Like long wall sheep, it's going
Speaker 4: to be quite hard to look after that sheep. Right, Stop,
Speaker 4: it's wall getting matt in stuff. So now we're going
Speaker 4: to get it to fencing. It's an important topic. So
Speaker 4: you want your fencing to be about chest high. Obviously
Speaker 4: it depends on your height, like if you're a smaller
Speaker 4: person a bit higher or whatever. But like we were
Speaker 4: generally use post and rail fencing. You don't see that
Speaker 4: as much in the US, but the name is pretty
Speaker 4: self explanatory, right, Bang in a post rail across the middle.
Speaker 4: Bang in a post rail across the middle. And then
Speaker 4: you're gonna want some netting you don't have to use
Speaker 4: Like with chickens, we talked about using construction netting, right,
Speaker 4: like very thin wire just so that like things like
Speaker 4: snakes and rats don't get in with cheap you don't
Speaker 4: need that. The You can go with a wider mesh
Speaker 4: four or five inches across, and that's going to be
Speaker 4: cheaper for you.
Speaker 2: As you're building the fence.
Speaker 4: You can also use electric fences, and you can use
Speaker 4: those to rotate the pasture, which is a good idea,
Speaker 4: so that she kind of graze one area, then you
Speaker 4: move them across to another area. That area recovers, You
Speaker 4: move the sheep to the next area, they graze that
Speaker 4: area where the other areas recover. Okay, you learn about
Speaker 4: thisy surely right? Yeah, yeah, surely.
Speaker 2: I'm curious. How does the electric fencing do that? Are
Speaker 2: you constantly moving it? And is that just like when
Speaker 2: the sheep touch it, they're like, oh, not that way
Speaker 2: and go back like.
Speaker 4: Oh, Okay, well they're not thick. They'll touch it once and
Speaker 4: then they won't go here maybe twice and oh yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I'll be precisely. But so how is it doing that.
Speaker 4: It's so that the electric fences are like plastic posts
Speaker 4: that you stick in the ground and then it has
Speaker 4: a metal spike on the end, and then it's got
Speaker 4: this it's about that wide, about inch wide. It's it's
Speaker 4: a ribbon with little metal pits in it, and you
Speaker 4: the post has a way of securing that ribbon to it,
Speaker 4: so you can move that fencing around.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool. So the reason I mean it being electrified
Speaker 2: is kind of like secondary. It's mostly that it's a
Speaker 2: moveable fence post. That's why you ye grazing purposes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't have the same the same structure as
Speaker 4: a normal so it has gaps which a sheet probably
Speaker 4: could slip through if it was just wire. Because it's electric,
Speaker 4: it's not going to try and nuzzle its way through
Speaker 4: because it's going to get shot. So if you're using
Speaker 4: electric fence, just like you know, the classic way to
Speaker 4: tell of it's on right, it is you pick up
Speaker 4: a piece of grass and then you just touch the
Speaker 4: fence with the grass because the grass is a poor conductor.
Speaker 4: You're going to feel a little bit of.
Speaker 2: A shocking right now.
Speaker 4: No, no, that's what you do. Like, yeah, no, you
Speaker 4: touch it with a piece of grass, and that's gonna
Speaker 4: you're going to get like a slight like tingle, but
Speaker 4: you're not going to get a full whack.
Speaker 2: Like growing up.
Speaker 4: The electric fences all over the place, right, I've run
Speaker 4: into them when I was a kid and taken a
Speaker 4: whack or like the you know, the post have a
Speaker 4: big spike on the end, So that's very fun to
Speaker 4: throw at your friends if you know, lasting injury. But yeah,
Speaker 4: electric fencing gives handy. You just took it up to
Speaker 4: a car battery basically, so you like, yeah, no, it's
Speaker 4: it's a good way to segment your field if you
Speaker 4: have one field, you know, if you're not rotating the
Speaker 4: cheap Did you really not learn about field rotation? Sorry,
Speaker 4: I'm constantly amazed by the things that I didn't school
Speaker 4: that Americans don't do at all.
Speaker 2: Agriculture in any capacity. Yeah, there was no agriculture training.
Speaker 2: I mean at least way far I saw.
Speaker 3: It was unlike the tub of butter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's literally what the most. I think. I
Speaker 2: think I grew up closer than YouTube.
Speaker 1: It was I had a corn fib my backyard, and
Speaker 1: they were Okay, we didn't have agricultural education yet like
Speaker 1: my school, but like there were schools so like I
Speaker 1: went to to do like play chess classical I was,
Speaker 1: I was a nerd, but like there were lots of
Speaker 1: schools that like did stuff like that because they were
Speaker 1: like war real approach of Illinois. So that is a
Speaker 1: thing here. I think it's just didn't go up in
Speaker 1: the agricultural.
Speaker 4: I think I learned it in the context of the
Speaker 4: enclosure of the commons in the fore field rotation and
Speaker 4: like using lagoons to fix antrogen.
Speaker 2: In the soil and again blank college.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, well yeah, different strokes for different folks. You
Speaker 4: know me on Twitter dot com. If you learned about
Speaker 4: lagooms in school, so to be.
Speaker 2: Cool, would have preferred to learn about that, just to
Speaker 2: be clear, like algebra two, forget it. I would much
Speaker 2: rather learn about.
Speaker 4: Lagoons whenever you use algebra, not don someone else is
Speaker 4: using it, but you know you, yeah, thank of what
Speaker 4: you could be doing with nitrogen right now if you
Speaker 4: if you were growing some peas what if incredible things.
Speaker 4: And so with your sheep, depending on the breed, you're
Speaker 4: going to need shelter, right, So that shelter could be
Speaker 4: something like a cops a little cops of trees that's
Speaker 4: a small it's big, smaller than a wood.
Speaker 2: It is a copse.
Speaker 4: So you're going to need a decent amount of trees
Speaker 4: for shelter. Some will need more shelter than others, right,
Speaker 4: depending on how hardy they are. Some of them will
Speaker 4: want to lamb inside and some of them are able
Speaker 4: to lamb outside. But they all will need some shelter
Speaker 4: and foul weather. Right, and you'll see that they're very
Speaker 4: good at like knowing where to shelter. But then you've
Speaker 4: got to you can't leave them out, Like when I'm
Speaker 4: in agricultural states in America where these giant prairies, you
Speaker 4: know that you don't have hedgerows in the same way
Speaker 4: that we did where I grew up. Then you if
Speaker 4: you are there and you're trying to have some pep,
Speaker 4: you're going to need to build a shelter for them.
Speaker 2: And the question about the shelter, yeah, yeah, is it?
Speaker 2: What's what's the shape of the shelter. Is it kind
Speaker 2: of like is it like a house? Is it more
Speaker 2: like barn.
Speaker 4: Like it's depending on the breed. No, not like barn like,
Speaker 4: you have a barn to bring them in. Like so
Speaker 4: we used to lamb inside, right, and then you just
Speaker 4: use palette to divide it up, and the palettes you
Speaker 4: put each of you in there with her lamb.
Speaker 2: And we'll get onto that. Cops are barnes. Joke is
Speaker 2: not going to happen. Okay, sorry, Daniel, that's okay, I'll
Speaker 2: let you down again. That's okay, it's not on you.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you'll see all kinds of things. You'll see thanks,
Speaker 4: You'll see it like people just put a little stone shelters.
Speaker 4: You know, if you have a if you have a
Speaker 4: prevailing wind that like rips through and it's cold wind,
Speaker 4: then you know you might want to build something just
Speaker 4: to shelter them from that prevailing wind. But they just
Speaker 4: you know, if it's like a big undifferentiated prairie, and
Speaker 4: especially lambs, right, they're more fragile, they're younger, and sometimes
Speaker 4: you'll see the lambs wearing little coats and little little
Speaker 4: jackets that they can wear. Yeah, you can google that
Speaker 4: just like you google lambs orange jacket and you can
Speaker 4: get these little little plastic jackets for them. But you
Speaker 4: do need to be cautious with lambs when they're young sometimes,
Speaker 4: like I say, you'll have the midside. Thing with sheep
Speaker 4: regarding feeding is that they are ruminants.
Speaker 2: Do we know what ruminant animals are? No?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 4: Yes, absolute, massively failed by your educations.
Speaker 2: And it's a ruminant.
Speaker 4: It chooses the cud. So when it eats the food, right,
Speaker 4: it goes to the roomen and then it holds the food.
Speaker 4: The food's regurgitating.
Speaker 6: What the cow it has like multiple stomachs, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: like the first stomach yeah, So the rooman's a big stomach, right,
Speaker 6: and it's in there that it's like a storage space really.
Speaker 4: So the food goes in their chills for a bit
Speaker 4: and then it's regurgitated, chewed back up and then re swallowed.
Speaker 2: And that is the cud. That process is called chewing
Speaker 2: the cud. Yeah, chewing the cud. That is the right.
Speaker 2: So is that entire process chewing the cud like it
Speaker 2: going into the ruminant and then being regurgitated or is
Speaker 2: it strictly just the chewing that happened before they eat
Speaker 2: it again.
Speaker 4: It's a chewing that happens when they eat it again. Right,
Speaker 4: So like the first eating, it's just eating. The second
Speaker 4: eating she reads having a physical reaction.
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 2: It's extremely narly.
Speaker 4: That's how they get the most out of like this
Speaker 4: relatively lean past right, They're very clever adaption. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 4: that's how That's how sheep eat. So that means that
Speaker 4: they need to have access to pasture. They also need
Speaker 4: lots of water. So again, if you're in like a
Speaker 4: desert place, I should ask Navaho folks. I know Navaho folks,
Speaker 4: I should ask them how they do with their tura
Speaker 4: sheep because it's not a densely watered place there. But
Speaker 4: generally that they need access to water. I'm sure they
Speaker 4: have places where they have good access to water. And then,
Speaker 4: like I said, you do want to rotate them around, right,
Speaker 4: You can feed them, you can supplement with like hay
Speaker 4: or halage or silage stuff like that, but you shouldn't
Speaker 4: really like you can't keep your feet sheep in a
Speaker 4: place where there's no pasture. Really, you don't want to
Speaker 4: be feeding them all yet, they need varied pasture right
Speaker 4: with different things, you know, clovers and grasses and the
Speaker 4: stuff that's poisonous for them, so that there are different
Speaker 4: weeds sort of poisonous for them. You're just going to
Speaker 4: want to It depends where you live, right, you're listening
Speaker 4: to this in the UK. It's different to North America,
Speaker 4: probably different to South America. So you want to check
Speaker 4: that out again. When you're buying a sheet, you can
Speaker 4: ask these kind of questions and go ahead and pull
Speaker 4: those out so so you can you can feed them grain.
Speaker 4: But you really only want to do that sort of
Speaker 4: durin or just before lambing. It can lead to overfeeding.
Speaker 4: It's too rich for them, right, Like they're designed with
Speaker 4: this ruminant system to you know, have these green leafy things.
Speaker 4: People can use bagged feeds too, you know, again, you
Speaker 4: don't want to rely on those whole time. They're expensive.
Speaker 4: Don't use cow food like bagged cattle food. It's not
Speaker 4: going to work for sheep. And they need like a
Speaker 4: mineral lick too, So you're like, I'm sure you're all
Speaker 4: familiar with salt licks. Yeah, that's yeah, that's it's a
Speaker 4: similar thing, right, they'll just come up and lick that.
Speaker 4: They know when they need the salt or the minerals,
Speaker 4: so do they just they know so they'll just come
Speaker 4: come and lick it. So you just put that out
Speaker 4: in the field. It's pretty chill, don't let so. A
Speaker 4: big problem we had was like we had some cheat
Speaker 4: in the field next to our house and they were
Speaker 4: our sheep. There was someone else's sheep, but like for
Speaker 4: ever getting into the garden, mainly because I'm terrible at
Speaker 4: closing gates and doors, and so they would get into
Speaker 4: the garden. You do want to be careful. They will
Speaker 4: go ham like it is the time of their lives.
Speaker 4: When they get in your garden. They can eat all
Speaker 4: your plants. But you do want to watch out for
Speaker 4: things like rhododendron which can be dangerous to them and
Speaker 4: they can be poisonous. So if you've got stuff in
Speaker 4: your garden, either don't have stuff as poisons to sheep
Speaker 4: or or be aware, you know, if they're getting in there,
Speaker 4: head to the rhododendrons and head them off at the
Speaker 4: past sharene would you would you like to insert your.
Speaker 5: Well, you're just the shepherd and we are the herd
Speaker 5: following you.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: To everyone that wants to be a sheep, listen to these.
Speaker 4: Ads, We're back my sheep and Unparalleled. Yeah, we need
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Speaker 2: It's kind of energy is magical.
Speaker 4: So yeah, sharing right, Sharing sheep a very important part
Speaker 4: of having sheep. So this can be hard to mask.
Speaker 4: If you're trying to get the wool off in like
Speaker 4: a full fleece, which is ideally how you want to
Speaker 4: do it, right, you don't, You're not just like it's
Speaker 4: not like when you go to the barbers, you know,
Speaker 4: and they just go at you and his hair on
Speaker 4: the floor. You're looking to take it off as a
Speaker 4: complete fleece, and there's a technique to that's you're just
Speaker 4: not going to fucking get it straight away, like you're
Speaker 4: going to have to learn or you're going to have
Speaker 4: to pay someone to do it. I don't really know
Speaker 4: how that works in America again, because like there's not
Speaker 4: such a density of sheep, so maybe that's not someone
Speaker 4: who does it, And lots of this stuff are getting
Speaker 4: your US ultra sounded when they're pregnant. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: how you go about that in an affordable manner in
Speaker 4: the United States, Like if you have a large animal vet,
Speaker 4: you can ask them, but you do want to do
Speaker 4: that right to check that how many lambs you've got
Speaker 4: and stuff. But yeah, so if I guess you're just
Speaker 4: going to have to learn or give it a try.
Speaker 4: Like as long as you're not hurting the sheep, if
Speaker 4: you're taking it off in clumps, suppose it's not that bad.
Speaker 4: Just you know, if you don't want to be nipping
Speaker 4: and hurting the sheep itself when you're shearing, right, And
Speaker 4: that's just like if you if you're a person who
Speaker 4: shaves or you know, cuts her own hair or what
Speaker 4: have you know it's not pleasant if you nick the skin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so sheep need to get rid of the hair. Yes,
Speaker 3: then if we didn't exist, how would they do that?
Speaker 4: Well, we wouldn't have bred them selectively to have such
Speaker 4: dents and long fleeces if we didn't exist. So there
Speaker 4: are hair sheep which which have hair instead of wool,
Speaker 4: and those sheep.
Speaker 2: Don't need to don't need to be shorn.
Speaker 4: But because for centuries we've bred them to be woolier
Speaker 4: because we like the wool, then now we have we've
Speaker 4: made our bed and we have to line it right,
Speaker 4: Like the sheep depends on us and we depend on
Speaker 4: the sheep. It's like it's like the Yin and yang
Speaker 4: and you know of sheep husband.
Speaker 2: That we created without their permission.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah the sheep sheep that has been
Speaker 4: forced upon the Yeah yeah, maybe that's it's not a
Speaker 4: not a consensual relationship. So yeah, that what happens here.
Speaker 4: And if you don't share them, and some some you'll
Speaker 4: need to do twice a year, some once a year,
Speaker 4: some you worn't at all. If the hairshet right, but
Speaker 4: they'll get like matted walls, so like the like the
Speaker 4: who and other things will like like just if you like,
Speaker 4: if you don't wash your hair for a long time,
Speaker 4: you know, it gets kind of knotted and matted.
Speaker 2: Got it? Got it? Yeah? Yeah so that and also
Speaker 2: they can get over heat, say no more to go further.
Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense though, that makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you sell well in the USA. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, just get on Etsy and do something with
Speaker 4: it if you want to sell. I suppose you know,
Speaker 4: learn to learn to spin, get a spinning wheel, you
Speaker 4: learn to car card the wool and then spin it
Speaker 4: and then knit it and then sell it. I suppose
Speaker 4: it will keep things for yourself. It'd be fun, you
Speaker 4: know if you have free time.
Speaker 2: What is carding?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's when you're like like taking the wool and
Speaker 4: like like combing it.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, pulling it.
Speaker 4: I'm not super mamny with stuff. I remember again.
Speaker 2: See, it's just a different world, isn't it.
Speaker 4: See we would go to like the Black Country Museum
Speaker 4: when I was a kid in school.
Speaker 2: Not a racial thing.
Speaker 4: It's just a uh it's it's a part of it's
Speaker 4: part of Britain where there was a lot of industry.
Speaker 4: And one of the things I would do was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is how people used to do wool, you know,
Speaker 4: like the spinning Jenny and like before that, like in
Speaker 4: cottage industry when people would make it at home. Okay, Well,
Speaker 4: like when you go to the Rabberry Survival Trust and
Speaker 4: I think, I bet they'll let you do some spinning
Speaker 4: or carding when you're going there.
Speaker 2: I got a quick explanation for you. Got a quick
Speaker 2: explanation for you. So if for those folks at home
Speaker 2: who have hairy animals, you know those kind of like
Speaker 2: brushes that have fine little metal bristles on them, and
Speaker 2: you're brushing, you just take off like a huge clump
Speaker 2: of hair. Now you take a imagine you take a
Speaker 2: fresh piece of wall straight off of the sheep and
Speaker 2: you put it on there, and then you just kind
Speaker 2: of tease it out to form it into what looks
Speaker 2: more like like raw wool that you're used to, as
Speaker 2: opposed to looking like it was just taking off a sheep.
Speaker 2: You're turning into the raw wall that will then be spun.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now, and it looks absolutely exhausting. Yes.
Speaker 2: Fun sorry, yes, fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fun, good thing to do, you know, like get
Speaker 4: Once Twitter inevitably collapses, we can return with a v
Speaker 4: to tradition and do this sort of stuff instead. You know, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm sure texting everybody videos may return to tradition. People
Speaker 4: already do it. It's nice for your hand. It's very
Speaker 4: nice for your hands just generally handling because they have lanolin, right,
Speaker 4: lannelin this kind of natural I think it's like a
Speaker 4: soap thing like it makes lathering, but it's very good
Speaker 4: for softening your skin. So you'll see you'll notice it's
Speaker 4: nice for your hands when you're handling the sheep, right,
Speaker 4: You'll notice that's nice hand feeling. It's not expensive like
Speaker 4: hand cream. You're going to have to make sure that
Speaker 4: you train your sheep's hooves. So depending on your size
Speaker 4: and the sheep size and yeah, and your sort of
Speaker 4: skill handling sheep, you might want to get a sheep flipper.
Speaker 4: We got one from my mum a couple.
Speaker 2: Of years ago.
Speaker 4: It's just a device that helps you turn the sheep
Speaker 4: so that you can clip its hooves instead of just
Speaker 4: getting in there with the knee. And there's a way
Speaker 4: to do it, and a lot of this stuff you
Speaker 4: can learn on YouTube, like I've I checked before this,
Speaker 4: and there's definitely videos on how to turn them over
Speaker 4: and clip the hoofs. So yeah, you can give it
Speaker 4: a try. That doesn't work, you can get a sheep flipper.
Speaker 4: You you sort of yeah, you sort to drop your knee
Speaker 4: into it and turn it over.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that there is an advice that exists
Speaker 1: called the sheep flipper. Like this has made my day
Speaker 1: measurably better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll send you some videos. There's some good
Speaker 4: videos of me trying to turn my mum's sheep like
Speaker 4: so we can click their hooves and it was like
Speaker 4: wet and slippery and me just fetching myself on my
Speaker 4: ass into dead and the sheep just like making a
Speaker 4: bit for freedom. So yeah, you watch a couple of videos,
Speaker 4: you can work it out and if it doesn't work
Speaker 4: for you can get a seat sheep flipper. You're going
Speaker 4: to have to do things like dipping and deworming your
Speaker 4: sheep too. It's your the wormer you just put in
Speaker 4: their mouth. It's like a It goes in the mouth
Speaker 4: and you squeeze.
Speaker 2: It looks a bit like a gun, I suppose, or.
Speaker 4: Like a it's like a little tiny pipe, like maybe
Speaker 4: a quarter of an inch size. You're pinky and it
Speaker 4: goes in and you suppress the thing and it dispenses
Speaker 4: a dose. It kind of just gets it behind their tongues,
Speaker 4: so don't spit it out.
Speaker 2: Dispensed. It's a bit of wormer. Gun was the up
Speaker 2: perfect word to use for my americanized brain. I'm totally yeah.
Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, yeah, I was going to you know,
Speaker 4: thinking gun, hot dog, bulld egle or what reference would
Speaker 4: you understand? So you know you're gonna also have to
Speaker 4: dip your sheep to prevent things like scab and so
Speaker 4: that's just literally when the sheep dipped in this stuff,
Speaker 4: that sort of cleans them. Right, So there are mobile
Speaker 4: sheep dips, so you can just go to a sheep dip,
Speaker 4: take your sheep to a sheep They can do it there. Again,
Speaker 4: I'm not I've never seen one in the US. I'm
Speaker 4: sure there are some, but I'm not sure how you
Speaker 4: do that. Think you can also spray them for this,
Speaker 4: and you'll want to check. Obviously, all kind of dips
Speaker 4: a legal legal, and you don't want to be dipping
Speaker 4: them with cuts, so like if you have just been
Speaker 4: through your shearing and you've cut them up, that's not
Speaker 4: a good time to do it. And you don't want
Speaker 4: to dip thirsty sheep either for obvious reasons. Right, what
Speaker 4: they're going into is not certainly want to be drinking.
Speaker 4: So predation predations an interesting topic. Sheep are not really
Speaker 4: great at defending themselves, and they just kind of big flufs.
Speaker 4: They can sort of butt a little bit with their
Speaker 4: heads and then they do do that, and they'll defend
Speaker 4: their their their little lambs. And when we were little
Speaker 4: and we had dogs, if the dog, when it was
Speaker 4: a puppy, would chase sheep, you could put the dog
Speaker 4: in a little pen with a you and her lambs
Speaker 4: and then you would be like heay, get away, get away,
Speaker 4: get away, leave my lambs alone, and that then the
Speaker 4: dog would would be less likely to chase sheep again
Speaker 4: because it's had this. Probably not great to get a
Speaker 4: dog a traumatic experience and the U I suppose, but
Speaker 4: they'll defend their their lambs like that. But you know,
Speaker 4: when you've got especially if you're in North America, right,
Speaker 4: you've got like mountain lions, you've got coyotes, you've got bobcats,
Speaker 4: all kinds of bigger stuff than I'm used to. So
Speaker 4: a couple of options there. You've got guardian animals, right,
Speaker 4: so something like a lama, a donkey, or like a
Speaker 4: livestock guardian dog. Me is enjoying the idea of a
Speaker 4: guardian donkey. But the couple of different benefits to each
Speaker 4: one of lama. Lama can be pretty mean, and I'm
Speaker 4: sure you guys have seen them, Like I've been spat
Speaker 4: on by a few lama. They'll they'll kick, yeah, then
Speaker 4: they're bitey, and it's just really sort of obnoxious creatures.
Speaker 4: But that yeah, that they don't mess about, So those
Speaker 4: are decent. You know, it looks like one of the
Speaker 4: sheep is just wildly deformed. If it's running around with
Speaker 4: the sheep. You can get donkey. Donkeys also quite defensive
Speaker 4: and very loud, so you know, if your sheep are
Speaker 4: in a field near your house and you have a donkey,
Speaker 4: it's going to kick off at night, something happens making
Speaker 4: its characteristic donkey noises, and that will give you chance
Speaker 4: to respond and then you've got your livestock. Guardian breeds
Speaker 4: right like like Pyrenees is a great example. People will
Speaker 4: probably have seen my pictures of the stations Udicorn Rutch.
Speaker 4: They have Pyrenees dogs very helpful as you when you're
Speaker 4: being attacked by bigots because the dogs dogs will bark,
Speaker 4: but guardian dogs are like inherently they want to guide
Speaker 4: your sheep. So they'll just go out there and they'll
Speaker 4: move among the flock and they'll bark and run off
Speaker 4: any attackers and they're very again, it's entirely in their
Speaker 4: breeding to do it. It's very funny actually, because chuds
Speaker 4: have this like I'm a sheep dog thing, you know
Speaker 4: when when they walk around with like five knives and
Speaker 4: two guns and pepper spray, and then they always have
Speaker 4: a picture of border collie that is not what the
Speaker 4: border collie dogs a border collie is like a dog
Speaker 4: with extreme anxiety that is obsessed with collective security. And
Speaker 4: we'll just like border collie's naturally heard things, right, So
Speaker 4: I'm sure like you've seen people seen like One Man
Speaker 4: his dog the TV program again, it used to be
Speaker 4: on a Sunday nights when I was little. It's it's
Speaker 4: a competition as a sheep herding with dogs competition, they're rules. Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, perhaps.
Speaker 2: One of them.
Speaker 4: I've met American people who do this competitively, but I
Speaker 4: think it's more of a hobby than a way of life.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so if you you can google one Man
Speaker 4: this dog and watch different competitions. Obviously it's not gendered
Speaker 4: and it can be a person and their dog. But yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what border colligues do, right, They heard the sheep.
Speaker 4: And when they're little, like you can start them out
Speaker 4: with herding chickens or ducks in your in your like
Speaker 4: if you have a farm yard, they'll they'll go out
Speaker 4: there and hurd ducks just by themselves. They want to
Speaker 4: do it just in their breeding. But a guardian dog
Speaker 4: does not do that. It just protects. But I think
Speaker 4: this is one of the things that we spoke about
Speaker 4: with with chickens, right, Like, if you want to have sheep,
Speaker 4: you're probably going to have to either, Like well, if
Speaker 4: you're not willing to defend them for predators, you probably
Speaker 4: shouldn't have them because it's a bit mean to just
Speaker 4: put them out there. It's like coyote bait, a lion
Speaker 4: bait or whatever, Like you might have to shoot something
Speaker 4: that looks like a dog if you don't want your
Speaker 4: sheep to die, and like it's just how it's going
Speaker 4: to go down, you know, Like it's not everyone has
Speaker 4: to have livestock. I'm not a person who eats animals,
Speaker 4: so like it's.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think, similar to chickens, most people shouldn't
Speaker 3: have chickens or sheep, you know what I mean. The
Speaker 3: vast majority of.
Speaker 5: People, in my opinion, are better off not doing that,
Speaker 5: just because, like I don't think people realize the responsibility.
Speaker 5: Even with all this information. I think some people get
Speaker 5: too they jump the gun for lack of a better.
Speaker 4: Fucking term, yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, totally, Like don't
Speaker 4: be rushing into getting livestock. Like it's very like I've
Speaker 4: seen people do it before. I've seen people do the
Speaker 4: whole like, you know, I'll quit my job as a
Speaker 4: banker and come and live on a farm thing, and
Speaker 4: like they just don't go and work on someone's fun. Right,
Speaker 4: if you want to do that, you learn if you
Speaker 4: didn't grow up in this, Like there are a million
Speaker 4: things that I'm not telling you, and I'm forgetting to
Speaker 4: tell you that I take for granted. And like it
Speaker 4: just it takes time, and it's complicated and and sometimes
Speaker 4: it's very sad, right, Like I said, she gets sick
Speaker 4: and they die and that's sad, and they get predated,
Speaker 4: and that's very sad. Lambs get predated. It's really sad.
Speaker 4: So like, I don't know, it's not for everyone. It's
Speaker 4: certainly having a flock of sheep is quite big. And
Speaker 4: you can't you know, can't be like, oh right, I'm
Speaker 4: off to right.
Speaker 5: I don't think a lot of people have the land
Speaker 5: even necessary for that, So I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, a few.
Speaker 3: I'm so passionate about this that I actually.
Speaker 5: Have to go now, Okay, I believe it. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 5: I have to record something else with that voice, So.
Speaker 3: Until next time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, keep on parking by Okay, We're going to briefly
Speaker 4: cover lambing and then we're we can be done. So,
Speaker 4: like I said, you can pick up orphan lambs a
Speaker 4: good way to add to your flock. The thing with
Speaker 4: little baby lambs is when when they're firstborn, right, if
Speaker 4: the mother is either won't feed them, sometimes she won't
Speaker 4: feed them, or she dies, they're going to need what's
Speaker 4: called colostrum. Familiar with colostrum that.
Speaker 2: It sounds more familiar. I feel like it was.
Speaker 4: Briefly it was like an athletic performance supplement tread, but
Speaker 4: like it's it's the milk that comes in the first
Speaker 4: twenty four hours sexual rich we'll need yeah, or from
Speaker 4: whatever animal right, and any mammal.
Speaker 2: I would imagine milk produced by the memory glands of
Speaker 2: humans and other mammals immediately following delivery of the new born. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's so better summary than I made Thank you down.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Always, So they're gonna need about five hundred mills on
Speaker 4: the first day. I think it's about a pint. It's
Speaker 4: you want it to be warm, so you can buy
Speaker 4: frozen cloussum. You can buy powdered classroom, but you don't
Speaker 4: want to microwave it. The clossroom has some antibodies in it.
Speaker 4: Which help the little sheeps like stumbach i suppose get
Speaker 4: ready for the world, so it's why you don't want
Speaker 4: to microwave it. So generally they're pretty easy to bottle feed.
Speaker 4: Like if you stick your finger in, the lamb will
Speaker 4: just like start sucking on that. It's a good sign
Speaker 4: that it's you know, it's ready to bottle feed, and
Speaker 4: it's easy to bottle feed, so that you can sometimes
Speaker 4: do that's kind of a way to lure them in
Speaker 4: and then start bottle feeding them. Sometimes you have to
Speaker 4: sort of rub them a bit to get them to feed,
Speaker 4: and then they like to have their milk powder of
Speaker 4: the if you're doing powdered milk, right, if with these
Speaker 4: awful lambs, but every four hours, and you're just going
Speaker 4: to gradually increase the amount you feed them, and you
Speaker 4: know they'll need things like a heat lamp right to
Speaker 4: keep them warm because they don't have that big heat
Speaker 4: sink of their mum embedding and water. And you know,
Speaker 4: a bit later you can it's a bit easier, right,
Speaker 4: you can get a bucket with teats, so you just
Speaker 4: you're literally screwing the teats that go on a milk
Speaker 4: bottle onto the bucket instead, so they can drink of that.
Speaker 4: But it's a lot of work getting awful lambs. Like
Speaker 4: they'll want to eat about every four hours. It doesn't
Speaker 4: matter if you're sleeping, they still want to eat. So
Speaker 4: like I can remember doing that a lot when it's little,
Speaker 4: and you can get like once the lamb gets a
Speaker 4: bit older, you're going to want to do things like
Speaker 4: you might want to castrate it, depending, you might want
Speaker 4: to dock its tail, depending, you might want to vaccinate
Speaker 4: it or you do want to vaccinate it. But also
Speaker 4: like they need time to be social with other sheeps,
Speaker 4: so like you can't just get one awful lamb and
Speaker 4: raise it like some kind of sheep person that they
Speaker 4: need to play with other sheep. They need to time
Speaker 4: to run around. They can be quite fun that they'll
Speaker 4: follow you around often, but the law and sheep that
Speaker 4: you get sort of run around and they'll follow you around,
Speaker 4: so that's kind of fun. And then you do eventually,
Speaker 4: like if you especially if you're raising a lot of
Speaker 4: orphan lambs, you're going to have ram lambs, right, and
Speaker 4: so you're either going to have to castrate those or
Speaker 4: sell them because you're going to create an issue of
Speaker 4: inbreeding within your flock. Otherwise if you just keep all
Speaker 4: the lambs right, And so that's the thing to think about.
Speaker 4: If you're going to have sheep, at some point you're
Speaker 4: either going to need to buy more or breed them.
Speaker 4: And if you're going to breed them, what are you
Speaker 4: going to do with the ram lambs? So you can
Speaker 4: castrate them, they become weathers and that's generally where meat
Speaker 4: comes from that people eat. You don't want to participate
Speaker 4: in that. You're just going to pass it on someone
Speaker 4: else's right, you know, think the Unfortunately, this is commercial agriculture,
Speaker 4: even if you don't eat meat, like it's about killing animals,
Speaker 4: which is why I.
Speaker 2: Don't like to do that.
Speaker 4: Yes, so with lambs, when you've got pregnant use you'll
Speaker 4: want to scan them, see how many lambs there are,
Speaker 4: and that helps you make feeding decisions for the pregnant you.
Speaker 4: That's sort of when you can look at like how
Speaker 4: many lambs are coming right, how much does she need
Speaker 4: to eat? And then once you've done this, you want
Speaker 4: to get your barn ready for lambing.
Speaker 2: Just put.
Speaker 4: We used to use pallets, you know, palettes things come
Speaker 4: on when you buy like a lot of sheep food
Speaker 4: for instance. You know it comes on a palette with
Speaker 4: a forklift can get under. You can just use those
Speaker 4: to separate out little stalls from to lamb in, put
Speaker 4: some straw in there, and then when they lamb, just
Speaker 4: because again they've been bread selectively for so long, they
Speaker 4: can sometimes strugger, struggle deliver. And if you're of the
Speaker 4: means to so, having a vet of course is lovely, right,
Speaker 4: like a large animal vet. But generally people who have
Speaker 4: farming commerc who don't have the resources to do that,
Speaker 4: it's just it's just not doesn't fit with you know,
Speaker 4: the cost of doing that. So you mostly do it yourself,
Speaker 4: like I've done it a lot. You and you want
Speaker 4: to get yourself a full arm glove, like a full
Speaker 4: plastic glove that gets like a sleeve glove, and then
Speaker 4: you can you can do a lot in terms of
Speaker 4: like turning the lamb around if it's coming out the
Speaker 4: wrong way, or helping the delivery. And I'll leave you
Speaker 4: to google that on your own time.
Speaker 2: But you just need to do all that one No,
Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's a miracle of life, Daniel. Then you
Speaker 2: just beautiful things beautiful in its own ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's really sweet when you get the lamb out and
Speaker 4: you're like, ah, yeah, I turn it around and it's
Speaker 4: get it pops up and it does a little shake
Speaker 4: and it stands on itsself feet. It's very sweet. It's
Speaker 4: kind of amazing compared to human babies. Human babies come
Speaker 4: out and like I've seen a few human babies and
Speaker 4: they're just like not particularly useful or capable in their
Speaker 4: early life. Lambs come out and they like they get
Speaker 4: up and they can run around and they can suckle,
Speaker 4: and like, you know, within twenty four hours they're like
Speaker 4: a functional tiny sheep. So that that's going nice. So
Speaker 4: you do want to when they're when they're when they're born, right,
Speaker 4: you just sort of get into the little little nose
Speaker 4: and mouth area and just clear that from anything that
Speaker 4: might be blocking it, just so they can breathe. You
Speaker 4: can use a bit of straw to get into the
Speaker 4: little nostrils just just to sort of get any any
Speaker 4: mucus or whatever out, and then you cut the umbilical
Speaker 4: cord up stay and disinfect that just with somebiodine. I
Speaker 4: think you can see actually that I send you one
Speaker 4: picture of a lamb last night where it's you can
Speaker 4: see where it's been disinfected and it's umbilical cord. Sometimes
Speaker 4: you just want to strip a couple of like you
Speaker 4: just want to check that you can give milk. Sometimes
Speaker 4: the teats can get plugged up and they're pregnantce you
Speaker 4: just give it a little little squeeze. Yes, So then
Speaker 4: then within a week and I want to do things
Speaker 4: like docking tails and castrating. Some some breeds can I'm outside,
Speaker 4: but some can't. So again, this is all stuff to
Speaker 4: consider when you're trying to buy your sheep.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: The last thing I've got about lambing is sometimes you
Speaker 4: use will reject the lamb. You can either try and
Speaker 4: like hold the u in place so the lamb can suckle,
Speaker 4: or if she's really hurting them, then you take them
Speaker 4: away and then you have to look after them yourself.
Speaker 4: And then they become your little friends and you can
Speaker 4: give them names. Yeah, it's very sweet, fine, like I said, unfortunately, yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 4: This is a thing with commercial agriculture, right, Like it's
Speaker 4: the nature of the thing, Like if you're you have cattle,
Speaker 4: what are you going to do with the with the
Speaker 4: you know, any male offspring of any species, right, even
Speaker 4: if you just had the sheep and you want to
Speaker 4: have them for milk, cool, But they're not going to
Speaker 4: continue lactating for their whole life, so they're going to
Speaker 4: have to have lambs, and then they're going to have
Speaker 4: to have lambs. You're going to have to decide what you
Speaker 4: want to do with the ram lambs, and so it's
Speaker 4: a difficult thing. It's not for everyone, but yeah, she
Speaker 4: wonderful creatures, very friends. You know, if you're walking past,
Speaker 4: you could you could see if someone's trained them to
Speaker 4: come to the words sheep just by shouting sheep at them.
Speaker 4: And if not, you know, passes by will think you've
Speaker 4: correctly identified the species, So big dub for you either way. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the sheep is a wonderful animal. They're very friendly of
Speaker 4: all the farm animals. I think they're my favorite and
Speaker 4: just growing up around them. If you're small, like you know,
Speaker 4: only do it if you're a very little human, probably
Speaker 4: not old enough to listen to some of the content
Speaker 4: we broadcast. If your agent want to be in like
Speaker 4: single digits, but you can ride them. You can sort
Speaker 4: of sit on them, fold on the shoulders and ride
Speaker 4: them around.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Really it's not a controlled experience like it's just going
Speaker 4: to run because it doesn't. It doesn't like you on
Speaker 4: its back, and you know, it might not be very
Speaker 4: nice for sheep thinking about it. But yeah, many many
Speaker 4: wonderful things you can do with sheep. They're very rewarding
Speaker 4: to have, I will say. But yeah, it's sad. It's
Speaker 4: also a difficult thing. So yeah, it did something too.
Speaker 4: Consider if you if you do milk, then they make
Speaker 4: good cheese. I think that's the primary reason that people
Speaker 4: dairy sheep.
Speaker 2: It is for cheese.
Speaker 4: I don't think many people are drinking sheep milk. You know,
Speaker 4: please don't let me know if you are. It's fine,
Speaker 4: I'm happy for you. No need, there's no need to
Speaker 4: share now. Yeah sheep. The every every wool pair of socks,
Speaker 4: very wool jumper that you have, every sheep's cheese that
Speaker 4: you eat, comes from these wonderful animals. Now you know
Speaker 4: a little more about and you can get sheep soad too.
Speaker 4: That's my last plug for this sheep. So it looks
Speaker 4: like a sheep, but in the middle of it it's
Speaker 4: so cute. Yeah, it's very good for washing your hands
Speaker 4: and maybe one day we will have cool zoned media
Speaker 4: sheep soap for you to buy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not pictures of it, and it was that's
Speaker 2: a past for me. But you know what, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people there who so more power. More power
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, disappointing Daniel and sheep. Actually, yeah, put post pictures
Speaker 4: of your sheep and tag me and various social media
Speaker 4: someone some people already do. But yeah, that's that's about
Speaker 4: what I got on sheep and any sheep questions before
Speaker 4: we go.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I will say each new sheep
Speaker 2: fact brought up another sheep question. But I think you
Speaker 2: did a great job of explaining owning sheep, taking care
Speaker 2: of sheep, rearing, sheep lambing. I mean I've I've come
Speaker 2: away with with a with a whole bale full of
Speaker 2: knowledge about sheepis me? What about you? Yeah, I've learned
Speaker 2: there's the sheep flippers. I can't getting sheep flippers, r KO,
Speaker 2: and your sheep is great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can do one way. You teach me one
Speaker 4: r KO.
Speaker 2: It's down. I will teach you by showing you as
Speaker 2: opposed to performing it. But yes, I will, I will
Speaker 2: tell you, definitely teach you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's our next live show. But yeah, I enjoy
Speaker 4: the stuff that you now know about sheep everyone.
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