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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Mia. So before we get to today's episode,

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Speaker 1: last Friday, the rank and file of the Burgerville Workers Union,

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Speaker 1: which is the country's first successful fast food union, went

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Speaker 1: on strike against a campaign of disciplinings and firings of

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Speaker 1: primarily trans and POC workers by the bosses who are

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Speaker 1: once again trying to crush the union. The strike has

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Speaker 1: worked so far, but they need support from the community

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Speaker 1: to help pay workers and help these people feed their

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Speaker 1: building democracy in the workplace. You can go to Bitley's

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Speaker 1: Slash Burger Defense to do it. To their funds, we

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Speaker 1: will have links to that description. And yeah, thank you

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Speaker 1: all so much, and now on to the.

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Speaker 2: Show, BA and welcome to it could happen. Sheer part

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Speaker 2: of wool Zone Media. I am one of your hosts,

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Speaker 2: DJ Daniel, and I am joined by three wonderful people,

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Speaker 2: one of which is actually going to lead us to

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Speaker 2: the prom I didn't press record on my own device, that.

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Speaker 3: Amateur.

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe that waybody press for cord. Should we

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Speaker 2: all make a fine No no no no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no, it's gonna I'm so fucking stupid. I'm we're

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Speaker 2: gonna do it again if this is good. But you

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Speaker 2: know what, I'm keeping all of this anyway. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: am uh bah and welcome to it could happen? Sheer

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Speaker 2: part of the wool Zone Media Network. I am one

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Speaker 2: of your hosts, DJ Dani, but really I'm just going

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Speaker 2: to be listening as someone else walks us through. I

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Speaker 2: to let them introduce themselves. How about we start with

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Speaker 2: the person leading this conversation, James, How you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm wonderful, Dinna, I'm very excited.

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Speaker 2: And who are we? Joined by? Cherene?

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Speaker 4: Do you want to say hi?

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Speaker 3: Do I want to say hi? This is what I

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Speaker 3: sound like today, everybody.

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Speaker 5: I apologize not part of the plan, but hopefully this.

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Speaker 3: Is a fun episode to listen to me sound like this?

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Speaker 3: This is Charin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here, Scharen is doing her plague cosplay right now,

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Speaker 2: and we are joined by one other wonderful person. Would

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Speaker 2: you like to introduce yourself?

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Speaker 6: Hi?

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Speaker 2: Ged Mia and Mia also here. Yay knows nothing about sheep.

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Speaker 2: Very excited.

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited.

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Speaker 5: Even though I sound like this, I need to be

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Speaker 5: here because I learned so much about chickens last time.

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Speaker 2: Now it's sheep. Yeah, we're so proud that you fought

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Speaker 2: through to pain. By the way, ba, sheer and wool

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Speaker 2: is the full extent of my sheep knowledge. So you

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Speaker 2: know we got it all out of the way right there.

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Speaker 4: Great, all right, butyway, let's get going because I've got

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Speaker 4: four pages of bullet points. Oh god, it could be

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Speaker 4: a week of sheep content.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful.

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Speaker 4: All right. Yeah, so talking about sheep. The reason we're

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Speaker 4: talking about sheep is a because it's it's passion of

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Speaker 4: the catiff. Catiff. We had one of those. They posted

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Speaker 4: sheep every day until until they guessed the breed of

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Speaker 4: sheep episode. That was two months ago. I think they

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Speaker 2: Before they got it. They got it quick too.

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Speaker 4: They got to like day I just searched sheep on

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Speaker 4: the subreddit. One of my friends like they were like, oh,

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Speaker 4: what do you do? Yeah, but yeah, they did very well.

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Speaker 4: They eventually picked the sheep, which was a Scotch black

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Speaker 4: I got to get him in What You Can Strike.

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Speaker 4: I think it's impossible to say that on a podcast

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Speaker 4: we've sailed through that one. So when a we're talking

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Speaker 4: first thing I think you have to ask yourself is why.

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Speaker 4: We're just here temporarily postponing the America because.

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Speaker 2: They're covered in war and we die the war smart incredible.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, so when you're looking at sheep, right, it's

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Speaker 4: a lot of work. But they're also very lovely and

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Speaker 4: I enjoy sheep a lot. They can be very friendly.

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Speaker 4: They're a nice animal. They're not like cattle. Sheep seem

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Speaker 4: more personable to me. And you know, they're soft, which

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Speaker 4: They are also a thing called park sheep. When we're

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Speaker 4: I think this is probably a specifically British thing and people, yeah,

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Speaker 4: estate one point in my childhood, they would have sheep

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Speaker 4: audience participation. So if you guys get opened up a

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Speaker 4: polyserate sheep because it has multiple horns. I don't know

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Speaker 4: the ones you're seeing have four horns, but that's a

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know horns can look like that.

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Speaker 2: You know, just to paint a picture for anybody who's

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Speaker 4: If you check out Hebridean sheep, they look like like

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Speaker 4: a very death metal sheep there there, they're all black.

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Speaker 2: Hebridean h E B R I D E A N

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what you want to strive for our life.

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Speaker 4: so they're going to grow quickly. They're going to be bigger,

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Speaker 4: going to have more lamps. You got your wall breeds,

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Speaker 4: So they might be a smaller, they may need shearing

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Speaker 4: different types of wool for different things, so that's something

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Speaker 4: to look into that. And I don't actually know how

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Speaker 2: That ship.

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Speaker 4: That ship has sailed centuries ago. So kind of the

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Speaker 4: class sheep you're looking at for, Like, a lot of

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Speaker 4: ram over a hill breed. You, So hill breed sheeps

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Speaker 4: so it doesn't have to necessarily be fenced in. It

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Speaker 4: That is not a characteristic of all breeds of sheep.

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Speaker 4: Like you will talk about fencing, definitely, most sheep need

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Speaker 4: Some of them are very acrobatic. But yeah, these guys,

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Speaker 4: they can be hefted. H'll breed some hill bredes can

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Speaker 4: that maternal line. Right, So as you're breeding your sheep,

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Speaker 2: Basically, right, that's.

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Speaker 3: A really dumb question.

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Speaker 4: Please.

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Speaker 3: I recognize it's dumb, and I can google it later,

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Speaker 3: but I need to know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't someone that doesn't eat a lot of meat.

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Speaker 5: Okay, do we only eat lamb meat? Does anyone eat

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Speaker 3: Sheep meat?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's called mushian much. I have heard of mutton

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Speaker 4: so much sheep? Yeah, have you heard that from? Have

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Speaker 4: No, I think it's rather.

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Speaker 1: Like a British one.

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Speaker 2: The newer term is r kao ing your sheep. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's interesting clean. Well. Either way, this sheep to me

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Speaker 4: So we're going to talk very leafily about what to

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Speaker 2: Okay, I miss I missed that part. Afterwards I was like, wait, no, James,

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Speaker 4: Done, thank you, Daniel. So when you're buying sheep, I

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Speaker 4: buy chickens because it didn't want to buy vaccinated chickens,

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00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 4: which is just yea, yeah, because Bill Gates wants to

435
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 4: know what your chicken is thinking, right, which is why

436
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 4: he micro chips. Yeah, absolutely pricks. Yeah, if you don't

437
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 4: want to buy vaccine, I don't know if you're listening

438
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 4: to the show that this is not a concern of ours,

439
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 4: I don't think, But yeah, check the vaccine status just

440
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 4: in case you got someone who try to sell you

441
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 4: some sheep which are more likely to get sick. So yeah,

442
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 4: would would if you I can't fucking come up with

443
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 4: an I don't know, if you want to buy something

444
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 4: that's no use to you and won't give you joy

445
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 4: instead of sheep. Here are some adverts. Okay, so we're

446
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 4: back and we're still talking about sheep, and we probably

447
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 4: will be for quite some time from page one. So

448
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 4: sheep are actually they're quite clever. Sheep can recognize human faces.

449
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 4: They'll know who you are. I've definitely definitely known that,

450
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 4: Like especially the sheep that we bottle fed from when

451
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 4: they were babies, right, they definitely knew who we were and.

452
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: They could be very friendly. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice.

453
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 2: They'll come up to you and they'll sort of nuzzle

454
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: you and you can rub them.

455
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 4: Our sheep were polled. That's another thing to think about

456
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 4: when you're getting the sheep, right, the pole sheep that

457
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: doesn't have horns where it's some people have horns, some

458
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 4: people have more horns. So, yeah, they can recognize your faces.

459
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 4: They can learn names, so they have a name, they

460
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: can learn their name. They also knows that they're sheep,

461
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 4: so like I know, my mum would just go out

462
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 4: and go like sheep and then she'd feed them and

463
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 4: they'd come. So you're thinking, you know, they've got a

464
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 4: positive reinforcement mechanism. You can train sheep to go on

465
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 4: a lead. So another reason you might want to get

466
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 4: sheep is you're getting into into showing right, A nice

467
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 4: thing to do if you if you you know a

468
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 4: strange like me, I suppose it's go to like an

469
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 4: agricultural show and look at different types of sheep.

470
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: I like to do that.

471
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 4: They can be really expensive now because it's also the

472
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 4: County Fair and so people are going in to eat

473
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 4: like deep fried stuff, which doesn't interest me as much.

474
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 4: But if you want to go and see it, yeah, yeah,

475
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 4: we could go together down I'll get a super sailor.

476
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: Up and then back at the end be like how

477
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: is your day?

478
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 4: You won't be saddled with regret if you look at

479
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 4: sheep and indigesture. So yeah, consider yeah, but it's nice

480
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: to go right. You see the breeds are popular in

481
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 4: your area, see different types of sheep and what people

482
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 4: will do. At least I've never been to it, like

483
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 4: an actual sort of showing sheep. I'll just go to

484
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 4: the to the San Diego County Fair and look at

485
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 4: the animals. But I've not been to a show where

486
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 4: you walk around with them in the US. But I

487
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 4: used to do that when I was a kid. I

488
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 4: think of, you know, go to the village show or

489
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: whatever and take the sheep and walk it around and

490
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 4: then they'll judge your sheep right, if it's up to

491
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 4: the breed standards or what have you. So, yeah, they

492
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 4: can go on a lead they like more of like

493
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: a halter, look around the nose, so not not like

494
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 4: a collar. So that's the thing that you can do

495
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: that's that interest you. If you want to get into

496
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 4: sheep showing. If that's the case, you're going to want

497
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 4: to get like a pedigree sheep right and really get

498
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 4: it to it. You're going to drop some money. It's

499
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 4: not really like I was never a very serious sheep

500
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 4: show to be clear. It's just a thing for your

501
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 4: child to do. When you go up in a rural area.

502
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 4: They like I said, they like to be toge. They're

503
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 4: in groups. They're pretty docile. Like sheep aren't going to fight.

504
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 4: You're definitely definitely Like when I was at University of stuff,

505
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 4: friends would come home and they'd be very scared of

506
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: the sheep. There's no reason to be scared of sheep.

507
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever heard of anyone being hurt

508
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 4: by a sheep. Yeah, I mean what, they're going to

509
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 4: come at you a bit, sometimes they're angry or whatever,

510
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 4: but like it's a sheep, Like it's fine, Like I

511
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: would back you serene if it came to it. Yeah,

512
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 4: Like yes, and their horns are mostly like not pointed

513
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: towards you. I have been gored by a bolt, right,

514
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 4: like I've experienced like livestock related injury.

515
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: Sheep is definitely on the list of animals I'm pretty

516
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: sure I could take. Yeah, pretty sure.

517
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: This next fact is fascinating to me. Can we get

518
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 3: to this fact?

519
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

520
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 4: Sure, so definitely. If you're thinking breeding and getting rams,

521
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 4: about like eight percent are going to be gay.

522
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: It's just a thing that's going to happen, right, getty sheep.

523
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you wait till we get to the next one.

524
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 4: Bere is it just the thing, right, You're going to

525
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 4: get a sheep that's gay. It's it's a natural part

526
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 4: of the diversity of any species. Kind of definitely know

527
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 4: people who just spent a lot of money on pedigree

528
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 4: rams and they've turned out to be gay. It's what

529
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 4: it is, right, Like that gets me about this weird,

530
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 4: stupid American. It's not just an American thing. But it's like, oh,

531
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: it's not natural whatever. Like I don't know anyone who's

532
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 4: worked with livestock in their life, well for for a

533
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 4: number of years, will tell you that they've come across

534
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 4: a gay sheep or cow or what have you.

535
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: Some you're also going to get.

536
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: Sometimes some sheep are called free Martins. It's a trans

537
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 4: mask sheep for the most part. It actually has some

538
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 4: biological differences. So like, yeah, what it is is a

539
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 4: female that's been accompanied so like the twins or triplets

540
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 4: or quads sometimes that has been a companied by male

541
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: features in you to so they behave in a masculine way,

542
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 4: and they might lack functioning ovaries. Yeah, you're going to

543
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: get those two right there, So they're going to be

544
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: a bit more agro, like a ram about you and stuff.

545
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 4: But it's just to think it's part of natural diversity

546
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: in species. You're going to see it. You know, you

547
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 4: might have a gay sheep, lucky you, right, you know,

548
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: chair as shit, take it, you know, it'd.

549
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: Be nice to it.

550
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 4: So white fleeces, right, generally we think of sheep, but

551
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: Dana was saying you don't think of a white fleece.

552
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 4: That's that wild sheep are often brown, right, it's being white.

553
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: It's not a great camouflage trait. So when we see

554
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 4: a when we see a white sheep, that's because it's

555
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: generally been selected.

556
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: Right.

557
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: So when you look at the Jacob sheep, they were piebald, right,

558
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 4: they had bits of brown on them on the white fleece.

559
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: Being white have a pispe dominant trait, so it's for

560
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: very quickly. And then if you if you're looking at

561
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 4: the wall of a sheep, you want to consider you

562
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 4: want fine medium, of course, wool long wool sheep. Right,

563
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 4: if you look up sheep with long walls, some amazing

564
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 4: reads out there. Those are mostly for breeding to get

565
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: more desirable wall characteristics. Like long wall sheep, it's going

566
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 4: to be quite hard to look after that sheep. Right, Stop,

567
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 4: it's wall getting matt in stuff. So now we're going

568
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 4: to get it to fencing. It's an important topic. So

569
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 4: you want your fencing to be about chest high. Obviously

570
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: it depends on your height, like if you're a smaller

571
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: person a bit higher or whatever. But like we were

572
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: generally use post and rail fencing. You don't see that

573
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: as much in the US, but the name is pretty

574
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 4: self explanatory, right, Bang in a post rail across the middle.

575
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 4: Bang in a post rail across the middle. And then

576
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna want some netting you don't have to use

577
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: Like with chickens, we talked about using construction netting, right,

578
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: like very thin wire just so that like things like

579
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 4: snakes and rats don't get in with cheap you don't

580
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: need that. The You can go with a wider mesh

581
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 4: four or five inches across, and that's going to be

582
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: cheaper for you.

583
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: As you're building the fence.

584
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: You can also use electric fences, and you can use

585
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: those to rotate the pasture, which is a good idea,

586
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: so that she kind of graze one area, then you

587
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: move them across to another area. That area recovers, You

588
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: move the sheep to the next area, they graze that

589
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: area where the other areas recover. Okay, you learn about

590
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: thisy surely right? Yeah, yeah, surely.

591
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm curious. How does the electric fencing do that? Are

592
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: you constantly moving it? And is that just like when

593
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: the sheep touch it, they're like, oh, not that way

594
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: and go back like.

595
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: Oh, Okay, well they're not thick. They'll touch it once and

596
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 4: then they won't go here maybe twice and oh yeah, no,

597
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 4: I'll be precisely. But so how is it doing that.

598
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: It's so that the electric fences are like plastic posts

599
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: that you stick in the ground and then it has

600
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: a metal spike on the end, and then it's got

601
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: this it's about that wide, about inch wide. It's it's

602
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 4: a ribbon with little metal pits in it, and you

603
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 4: the post has a way of securing that ribbon to it,

604
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: so you can move that fencing around.

605
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: Okay, cool. So the reason I mean it being electrified

606
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: is kind of like secondary. It's mostly that it's a

607
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: moveable fence post. That's why you ye grazing purposes.

608
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't have the same the same structure as

609
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: a normal so it has gaps which a sheet probably

610
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: could slip through if it was just wire. Because it's electric,

611
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: it's not going to try and nuzzle its way through

612
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 4: because it's going to get shot. So if you're using

613
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: electric fence, just like you know, the classic way to

614
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: tell of it's on right, it is you pick up

615
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: a piece of grass and then you just touch the

616
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 4: fence with the grass because the grass is a poor conductor.

617
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: You're going to feel a little bit of.

618
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: A shocking right now.

619
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: No, no, that's what you do. Like, yeah, no, you

620
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 4: touch it with a piece of grass, and that's gonna

621
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: you're going to get like a slight like tingle, but

622
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: you're not going to get a full whack.

623
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: Like growing up.

624
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: The electric fences all over the place, right, I've run

625
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: into them when I was a kid and taken a

626
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: whack or like the you know, the post have a

627
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: big spike on the end, So that's very fun to

628
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: throw at your friends if you know, lasting injury. But yeah,

629
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 4: electric fencing gives handy. You just took it up to

630
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: a car battery basically, so you like, yeah, no, it's

631
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: it's a good way to segment your field if you

632
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: have one field, you know, if you're not rotating the

633
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: cheap Did you really not learn about field rotation? Sorry,

634
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: I'm constantly amazed by the things that I didn't school

635
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: that Americans don't do at all.

636
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: Agriculture in any capacity. Yeah, there was no agriculture training.

637
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: I mean at least way far I saw.

638
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: It was unlike the tub of butter.

639
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's literally what the most. I think. I

640
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: think I grew up closer than YouTube.

641
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: It was I had a corn fib my backyard, and

642
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: they were Okay, we didn't have agricultural education yet like

643
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: my school, but like there were schools so like I

644
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: went to to do like play chess classical I was,

645
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: I was a nerd, but like there were lots of

646
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: schools that like did stuff like that because they were

647
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: like war real approach of Illinois. So that is a

648
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: thing here. I think it's just didn't go up in

649
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Speaker 1: the agricultural.

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Speaker 4: I think I learned it in the context of the

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Speaker 4: enclosure of the commons in the fore field rotation and

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Speaker 4: like using lagoons to fix antrogen.

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Speaker 2: In the soil and again blank college.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, well yeah, different strokes for different folks. You

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Speaker 4: know me on Twitter dot com. If you learned about

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Speaker 4: lagooms in school, so to be.

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Speaker 2: Cool, would have preferred to learn about that, just to

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Speaker 2: be clear, like algebra two, forget it. I would much

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Speaker 2: rather learn about.

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Speaker 4: Lagoons whenever you use algebra, not don someone else is

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Speaker 4: using it, but you know you, yeah, thank of what

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Speaker 4: you could be doing with nitrogen right now if you

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Speaker 4: if you were growing some peas what if incredible things.

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Speaker 4: And so with your sheep, depending on the breed, you're

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Speaker 4: going to need shelter, right, So that shelter could be

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Speaker 4: something like a cops a little cops of trees that's

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Speaker 4: a small it's big, smaller than a wood.

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Speaker 2: It is a copse.

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Speaker 4: So you're going to need a decent amount of trees

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Speaker 4: for shelter. Some will need more shelter than others, right,

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Speaker 4: depending on how hardy they are. Some of them will

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Speaker 4: want to lamb inside and some of them are able

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Speaker 4: to lamb outside. But they all will need some shelter

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Speaker 4: and foul weather. Right, and you'll see that they're very

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Speaker 4: good at like knowing where to shelter. But then you've

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Speaker 4: got to you can't leave them out, Like when I'm

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Speaker 4: in agricultural states in America where these giant prairies, you

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Speaker 4: know that you don't have hedgerows in the same way

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Speaker 4: that we did where I grew up. Then you if

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Speaker 4: you are there and you're trying to have some pep,

681
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Speaker 4: you're going to need to build a shelter for them.

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Speaker 2: And the question about the shelter, yeah, yeah, is it?

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Speaker 2: What's what's the shape of the shelter. Is it kind

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Speaker 2: of like is it like a house? Is it more

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Speaker 2: like barn.

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Speaker 4: Like it's depending on the breed. No, not like barn like,

687
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Speaker 4: you have a barn to bring them in. Like so

688
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Speaker 4: we used to lamb inside, right, and then you just

689
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Speaker 4: use palette to divide it up, and the palettes you

690
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Speaker 4: put each of you in there with her lamb.

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Speaker 2: And we'll get onto that. Cops are barnes. Joke is

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Speaker 2: not going to happen. Okay, sorry, Daniel, that's okay, I'll

693
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Speaker 2: let you down again. That's okay, it's not on you.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you'll see all kinds of things. You'll see thanks,

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Speaker 4: You'll see it like people just put a little stone shelters.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you have a if you have a

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Speaker 4: prevailing wind that like rips through and it's cold wind,

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Speaker 4: then you know you might want to build something just

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Speaker 4: to shelter them from that prevailing wind. But they just

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Speaker 4: you know, if it's like a big undifferentiated prairie, and

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Speaker 4: especially lambs, right, they're more fragile, they're younger, and sometimes

702
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Speaker 4: you'll see the lambs wearing little coats and little little

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Speaker 4: jackets that they can wear. Yeah, you can google that

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Speaker 4: just like you google lambs orange jacket and you can

705
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Speaker 4: get these little little plastic jackets for them. But you

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Speaker 4: do need to be cautious with lambs when they're young sometimes,

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Speaker 4: like I say, you'll have the midside. Thing with sheep

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Speaker 4: regarding feeding is that they are ruminants.

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Speaker 2: Do we know what ruminant animals are? No?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolute, massively failed by your educations.

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Speaker 2: And it's a ruminant.

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Speaker 4: It chooses the cud. So when it eats the food, right,

714
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Speaker 4: it goes to the roomen and then it holds the food.

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Speaker 4: The food's regurgitating.

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Speaker 6: What the cow it has like multiple stomachs, yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: like the first stomach yeah, So the rooman's a big stomach, right,

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Speaker 6: and it's in there that it's like a storage space really.

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Speaker 4: So the food goes in their chills for a bit

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Speaker 4: and then it's regurgitated, chewed back up and then re swallowed.

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Speaker 2: And that is the cud. That process is called chewing

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Speaker 2: the cud. Yeah, chewing the cud. That is the right.

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Speaker 2: So is that entire process chewing the cud like it

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Speaker 2: going into the ruminant and then being regurgitated or is

725
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Speaker 2: it strictly just the chewing that happened before they eat

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Speaker 2: it again.

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Speaker 4: It's a chewing that happens when they eat it again. Right,

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Speaker 4: So like the first eating, it's just eating. The second

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Speaker 4: eating she reads having a physical reaction.

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 2: It's extremely narly.

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Speaker 4: That's how they get the most out of like this

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Speaker 4: relatively lean past right, They're very clever adaption. Yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's how That's how sheep eat. So that means that

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Speaker 4: they need to have access to pasture. They also need

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Speaker 4: lots of water. So again, if you're in like a

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Speaker 4: desert place, I should ask Navaho folks. I know Navaho folks,

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Speaker 4: I should ask them how they do with their tura

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Speaker 4: sheep because it's not a densely watered place there. But

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Speaker 4: generally that they need access to water. I'm sure they

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Speaker 4: have places where they have good access to water. And then,

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Speaker 4: like I said, you do want to rotate them around, right,

743
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Speaker 4: You can feed them, you can supplement with like hay

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Speaker 4: or halage or silage stuff like that, but you shouldn't

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Speaker 4: really like you can't keep your feet sheep in a

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Speaker 4: place where there's no pasture. Really, you don't want to

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Speaker 4: be feeding them all yet, they need varied pasture right

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Speaker 4: with different things, you know, clovers and grasses and the

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Speaker 4: stuff that's poisonous for them, so that there are different

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Speaker 4: weeds sort of poisonous for them. You're just going to

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Speaker 4: want to It depends where you live, right, you're listening

752
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Speaker 4: to this in the UK. It's different to North America,

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Speaker 4: probably different to South America. So you want to check

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Speaker 4: that out again. When you're buying a sheet, you can

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Speaker 4: ask these kind of questions and go ahead and pull

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Speaker 4: those out so so you can you can feed them grain.

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Speaker 4: But you really only want to do that sort of

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Speaker 4: durin or just before lambing. It can lead to overfeeding.

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Speaker 4: It's too rich for them, right, Like they're designed with

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Speaker 4: this ruminant system to you know, have these green leafy things.

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Speaker 4: People can use bagged feeds too, you know, again, you

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Speaker 4: don't want to rely on those whole time. They're expensive.

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Speaker 4: Don't use cow food like bagged cattle food. It's not

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Speaker 4: going to work for sheep. And they need like a

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Speaker 4: mineral lick too, So you're like, I'm sure you're all

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Speaker 4: familiar with salt licks. Yeah, that's yeah, that's it's a

767
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Speaker 4: similar thing, right, they'll just come up and lick that.

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Speaker 4: They know when they need the salt or the minerals,

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Speaker 4: so do they just they know so they'll just come

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Speaker 4: come and lick it. So you just put that out

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Speaker 4: in the field. It's pretty chill, don't let so. A

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Speaker 4: big problem we had was like we had some cheat

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Speaker 4: in the field next to our house and they were

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Speaker 4: our sheep. There was someone else's sheep, but like for

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Speaker 4: ever getting into the garden, mainly because I'm terrible at

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Speaker 4: closing gates and doors, and so they would get into

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Speaker 4: the garden. You do want to be careful. They will

778
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Speaker 4: go ham like it is the time of their lives.

779
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: When they get in your garden. They can eat all

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Speaker 4: your plants. But you do want to watch out for

781
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: things like rhododendron which can be dangerous to them and

782
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Speaker 4: they can be poisonous. So if you've got stuff in

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Speaker 4: your garden, either don't have stuff as poisons to sheep

784
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Speaker 4: or or be aware, you know, if they're getting in there,

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Speaker 4: head to the rhododendrons and head them off at the

786
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Speaker 4: past sharene would you would you like to insert your.

787
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Speaker 5: Well, you're just the shepherd and we are the herd

788
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 5: following you.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 3: To everyone that wants to be a sheep, listen to these.

791
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Speaker 4: Ads, We're back my sheep and Unparalleled. Yeah, we need

792
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 4: Dan a little more podcasts.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of energy is magical.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, sharing right, Sharing sheep a very important part

795
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Speaker 4: of having sheep. So this can be hard to mask.

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Speaker 4: If you're trying to get the wool off in like

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Speaker 4: a full fleece, which is ideally how you want to

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Speaker 4: do it, right, you don't, You're not just like it's

799
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Speaker 4: not like when you go to the barbers, you know,

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Speaker 4: and they just go at you and his hair on

801
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Speaker 4: the floor. You're looking to take it off as a

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Speaker 4: complete fleece, and there's a technique to that's you're just

803
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 4: not going to fucking get it straight away, like you're

804
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: going to have to learn or you're going to have

805
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Speaker 4: to pay someone to do it. I don't really know

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Speaker 4: how that works in America again, because like there's not

807
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Speaker 4: such a density of sheep, so maybe that's not someone

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Speaker 4: who does it, And lots of this stuff are getting

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Speaker 4: your US ultra sounded when they're pregnant. I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: how you go about that in an affordable manner in

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Speaker 4: the United States, Like if you have a large animal vet,

812
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: you can ask them, but you do want to do

813
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: that right to check that how many lambs you've got

814
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Speaker 4: and stuff. But yeah, so if I guess you're just

815
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Speaker 4: going to have to learn or give it a try.

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Speaker 4: Like as long as you're not hurting the sheep, if

817
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Speaker 4: you're taking it off in clumps, suppose it's not that bad.

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Speaker 4: Just you know, if you don't want to be nipping

819
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Speaker 4: and hurting the sheep itself when you're shearing, right, And

820
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Speaker 4: that's just like if you if you're a person who

821
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Speaker 4: shaves or you know, cuts her own hair or what

822
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Speaker 4: have you know it's not pleasant if you nick the skin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so sheep need to get rid of the hair. Yes,

824
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Speaker 3: then if we didn't exist, how would they do that?

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Speaker 4: Well, we wouldn't have bred them selectively to have such

826
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Speaker 4: dents and long fleeces if we didn't exist. So there

827
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Speaker 4: are hair sheep which which have hair instead of wool,

828
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Speaker 4: and those sheep.

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Speaker 2: Don't need to don't need to be shorn.

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Speaker 4: But because for centuries we've bred them to be woolier

831
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Speaker 4: because we like the wool, then now we have we've

832
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Speaker 4: made our bed and we have to line it right,

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Speaker 4: Like the sheep depends on us and we depend on

834
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Speaker 4: the sheep. It's like it's like the Yin and yang

835
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Speaker 4: and you know of sheep husband.

836
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Speaker 2: That we created without their permission.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah the sheep sheep that has been

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00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 4: forced upon the Yeah yeah, maybe that's it's not a

839
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: not a consensual relationship. So yeah, that what happens here.

840
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 4: And if you don't share them, and some some you'll

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00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: need to do twice a year, some once a year,

842
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 4: some you worn't at all. If the hairshet right, but

843
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 4: they'll get like matted walls, so like the like the

844
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: who and other things will like like just if you like,

845
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: if you don't wash your hair for a long time,

846
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: you know, it gets kind of knotted and matted.

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Speaker 2: Got it? Got it? Yeah? Yeah so that and also

848
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: they can get over heat, say no more to go further.

849
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Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense though, that makes sense. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you sell well in the USA. Uh,

851
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Speaker 4: you know, just get on Etsy and do something with

852
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 4: it if you want to sell. I suppose you know,

853
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: learn to learn to spin, get a spinning wheel, you

854
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 4: learn to car card the wool and then spin it

855
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: and then knit it and then sell it. I suppose

856
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: it will keep things for yourself. It'd be fun, you

857
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: know if you have free time.

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Speaker 2: What is carding?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's when you're like like taking the wool and

860
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: like like combing it.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, pulling it.

862
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 4: I'm not super mamny with stuff. I remember again.

863
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: See, it's just a different world, isn't it.

864
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: See we would go to like the Black Country Museum

865
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 4: when I was a kid in school.

866
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: Not a racial thing.

867
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 4: It's just a uh it's it's a part of it's

868
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: part of Britain where there was a lot of industry.

869
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: And one of the things I would do was like, oh,

870
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: this is how people used to do wool, you know,

871
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 4: like the spinning Jenny and like before that, like in

872
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: cottage industry when people would make it at home. Okay, Well,

873
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: like when you go to the Rabberry Survival Trust and

874
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: I think, I bet they'll let you do some spinning

875
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: or carding when you're going there.

876
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 2: I got a quick explanation for you. Got a quick

877
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 2: explanation for you. So if for those folks at home

878
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: who have hairy animals, you know those kind of like

879
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: brushes that have fine little metal bristles on them, and

880
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: you're brushing, you just take off like a huge clump

881
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: of hair. Now you take a imagine you take a

882
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: fresh piece of wall straight off of the sheep and

883
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: you put it on there, and then you just kind

884
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: of tease it out to form it into what looks

885
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: more like like raw wool that you're used to, as

886
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: opposed to looking like it was just taking off a sheep.

887
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 2: You're turning into the raw wall that will then be spun.

888
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now, and it looks absolutely exhausting. Yes.

889
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: Fun sorry, yes, fun.

890
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, fun, good thing to do, you know, like get

891
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: Once Twitter inevitably collapses, we can return with a v

892
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 4: to tradition and do this sort of stuff instead. You know, yeah,

893
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: I'm sure texting everybody videos may return to tradition. People

894
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 4: already do it. It's nice for your hand. It's very

895
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 4: nice for your hands just generally handling because they have lanolin, right,

896
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 4: lannelin this kind of natural I think it's like a

897
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 4: soap thing like it makes lathering, but it's very good

898
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 4: for softening your skin. So you'll see you'll notice it's

899
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 4: nice for your hands when you're handling the sheep, right,

900
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 4: You'll notice that's nice hand feeling. It's not expensive like

901
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 4: hand cream. You're going to have to make sure that

902
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: you train your sheep's hooves. So depending on your size

903
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 4: and the sheep size and yeah, and your sort of

904
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 4: skill handling sheep, you might want to get a sheep flipper.

905
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 4: We got one from my mum a couple.

906
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: Of years ago.

907
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: It's just a device that helps you turn the sheep

908
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: so that you can clip its hooves instead of just

909
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: getting in there with the knee. And there's a way

910
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 4: to do it, and a lot of this stuff you

911
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 4: can learn on YouTube, like I've I checked before this,

912
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 4: and there's definitely videos on how to turn them over

913
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: and clip the hoofs. So yeah, you can give it

914
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: a try. That doesn't work, you can get a sheep flipper.

915
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 4: You you sort of yeah, you sort to drop your knee

916
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 4: into it and turn it over.

917
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that there is an advice that exists

918
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: called the sheep flipper. Like this has made my day

919
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: measurably better.

920
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll send you some videos. There's some good

921
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 4: videos of me trying to turn my mum's sheep like

922
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 4: so we can click their hooves and it was like

923
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: wet and slippery and me just fetching myself on my

924
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 4: ass into dead and the sheep just like making a

925
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 4: bit for freedom. So yeah, you watch a couple of videos,

926
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: you can work it out and if it doesn't work

927
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 4: for you can get a seat sheep flipper. You're going

928
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: to have to do things like dipping and deworming your

929
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: sheep too. It's your the wormer you just put in

930
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 4: their mouth. It's like a It goes in the mouth

931
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: and you squeeze.

932
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: It looks a bit like a gun, I suppose, or.

933
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: Like a it's like a little tiny pipe, like maybe

934
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: a quarter of an inch size. You're pinky and it

935
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 4: goes in and you suppress the thing and it dispenses

936
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 4: a dose. It kind of just gets it behind their tongues,

937
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 4: so don't spit it out.

938
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: Dispensed. It's a bit of wormer. Gun was the up

939
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: perfect word to use for my americanized brain. I'm totally yeah.

940
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, yeah, I was going to you know,

941
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 4: thinking gun, hot dog, bulld egle or what reference would

942
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: you understand? So you know you're gonna also have to

943
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: dip your sheep to prevent things like scab and so

944
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: that's just literally when the sheep dipped in this stuff,

945
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: that sort of cleans them. Right, So there are mobile

946
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 4: sheep dips, so you can just go to a sheep dip,

947
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 4: take your sheep to a sheep They can do it there. Again,

948
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 4: I'm not I've never seen one in the US. I'm

949
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 4: sure there are some, but I'm not sure how you

950
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 4: do that. Think you can also spray them for this,

951
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 4: and you'll want to check. Obviously, all kind of dips

952
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: a legal legal, and you don't want to be dipping

953
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 4: them with cuts, so like if you have just been

954
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: through your shearing and you've cut them up, that's not

955
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 4: a good time to do it. And you don't want

956
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: to dip thirsty sheep either for obvious reasons. Right, what

957
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 4: they're going into is not certainly want to be drinking.

958
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 4: So predation predations an interesting topic. Sheep are not really

959
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 4: great at defending themselves, and they just kind of big flufs.

960
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 4: They can sort of butt a little bit with their

961
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 4: heads and then they do do that, and they'll defend

962
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 4: their their their little lambs. And when we were little

963
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 4: and we had dogs, if the dog, when it was

964
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 4: a puppy, would chase sheep, you could put the dog

965
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 4: in a little pen with a you and her lambs

966
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 4: and then you would be like heay, get away, get away,

967
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 4: get away, leave my lambs alone, and that then the

968
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: dog would would be less likely to chase sheep again

969
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 4: because it's had this. Probably not great to get a

970
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: dog a traumatic experience and the U I suppose, but

971
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: they'll defend their their lambs like that. But you know,

972
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 4: when you've got especially if you're in North America, right,

973
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 4: you've got like mountain lions, you've got coyotes, you've got bobcats,

974
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 4: all kinds of bigger stuff than I'm used to. So

975
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: a couple of options there. You've got guardian animals, right,

976
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 4: so something like a lama, a donkey, or like a

977
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: livestock guardian dog. Me is enjoying the idea of a

978
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: guardian donkey. But the couple of different benefits to each

979
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 4: one of lama. Lama can be pretty mean, and I'm

980
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 4: sure you guys have seen them, Like I've been spat

981
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: on by a few lama. They'll they'll kick, yeah, then

982
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 4: they're bitey, and it's just really sort of obnoxious creatures.

983
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: But that yeah, that they don't mess about, So those

984
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 4: are decent. You know, it looks like one of the

985
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 4: sheep is just wildly deformed. If it's running around with

986
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: the sheep. You can get donkey. Donkeys also quite defensive

987
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 4: and very loud, so you know, if your sheep are

988
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: in a field near your house and you have a donkey,

989
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 4: it's going to kick off at night, something happens making

990
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 4: its characteristic donkey noises, and that will give you chance

991
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: to respond and then you've got your livestock. Guardian breeds

992
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: right like like Pyrenees is a great example. People will

993
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 4: probably have seen my pictures of the stations Udicorn Rutch.

994
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 4: They have Pyrenees dogs very helpful as you when you're

995
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 4: being attacked by bigots because the dogs dogs will bark,

996
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 4: but guardian dogs are like inherently they want to guide

997
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: your sheep. So they'll just go out there and they'll

998
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 4: move among the flock and they'll bark and run off

999
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 4: any attackers and they're very again, it's entirely in their

1000
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: breeding to do it. It's very funny actually, because chuds

1001
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 4: have this like I'm a sheep dog thing, you know

1002
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 4: when when they walk around with like five knives and

1003
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 4: two guns and pepper spray, and then they always have

1004
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 4: a picture of border collie that is not what the

1005
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 4: border collie dogs a border collie is like a dog

1006
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 4: with extreme anxiety that is obsessed with collective security. And

1007
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: we'll just like border collie's naturally heard things, right, So

1008
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: I'm sure like you've seen people seen like One Man

1009
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: his dog the TV program again, it used to be

1010
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 4: on a Sunday nights when I was little. It's it's

1011
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 4: a competition as a sheep herding with dogs competition, they're rules. Yeah,

1012
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: oh yeah, perhaps.

1013
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: One of them.

1014
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 4: I've met American people who do this competitively, but I

1015
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 4: think it's more of a hobby than a way of life.

1016
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 4: But yeah, so if you you can google one Man

1017
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 4: this dog and watch different competitions. Obviously it's not gendered

1018
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 4: and it can be a person and their dog. But yeah,

1019
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 4: that's what border colligues do, right, They heard the sheep.

1020
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 4: And when they're little, like you can start them out

1021
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 4: with herding chickens or ducks in your in your like

1022
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 4: if you have a farm yard, they'll they'll go out

1023
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 4: there and hurd ducks just by themselves. They want to

1024
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 4: do it just in their breeding. But a guardian dog

1025
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: does not do that. It just protects. But I think

1026
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 4: this is one of the things that we spoke about

1027
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 4: with with chickens, right, Like, if you want to have sheep,

1028
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 4: you're probably going to have to either, Like well, if

1029
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 4: you're not willing to defend them for predators, you probably

1030
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 4: shouldn't have them because it's a bit mean to just

1031
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 4: put them out there. It's like coyote bait, a lion

1032
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 4: bait or whatever, Like you might have to shoot something

1033
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 4: that looks like a dog if you don't want your

1034
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 4: sheep to die, and like it's just how it's going

1035
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 4: to go down, you know, Like it's not everyone has

1036
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: to have livestock. I'm not a person who eats animals,

1037
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 4: so like it's.

1038
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I think, similar to chickens, most people shouldn't

1039
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: have chickens or sheep, you know what I mean. The

1040
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 3: vast majority of.

1041
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 5: People, in my opinion, are better off not doing that,

1042
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 5: just because, like I don't think people realize the responsibility.

1043
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 5: Even with all this information. I think some people get

1044
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 5: too they jump the gun for lack of a better.

1045
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 4: Fucking term, yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, totally, Like don't

1046
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: be rushing into getting livestock. Like it's very like I've

1047
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 4: seen people do it before. I've seen people do the

1048
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: whole like, you know, I'll quit my job as a

1049
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 4: banker and come and live on a farm thing, and

1050
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 4: like they just don't go and work on someone's fun. Right,

1051
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 4: if you want to do that, you learn if you

1052
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 4: didn't grow up in this, Like there are a million

1053
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 4: things that I'm not telling you, and I'm forgetting to

1054
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: tell you that I take for granted. And like it

1055
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 4: just it takes time, and it's complicated and and sometimes

1056
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 4: it's very sad, right, Like I said, she gets sick

1057
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 4: and they die and that's sad, and they get predated,

1058
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 4: and that's very sad. Lambs get predated. It's really sad.

1059
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 4: So like, I don't know, it's not for everyone. It's

1060
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: certainly having a flock of sheep is quite big. And

1061
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 4: you can't you know, can't be like, oh right, I'm

1062
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: off to right.

1063
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 5: I don't think a lot of people have the land

1064
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 5: even necessary for that, So I don't know.

1065
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, a few.

1066
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: I'm so passionate about this that I actually.

1067
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 5: Have to go now, Okay, I believe it. Yes, Okay,

1068
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 5: I have to record something else with that voice, So.

1069
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 3: Until next time.

1070
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, keep on parking by Okay, We're going to briefly

1071
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: cover lambing and then we're we can be done. So,

1072
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 4: like I said, you can pick up orphan lambs a

1073
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 4: good way to add to your flock. The thing with

1074
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 4: little baby lambs is when when they're firstborn, right, if

1075
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: the mother is either won't feed them, sometimes she won't

1076
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 4: feed them, or she dies, they're going to need what's

1077
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: called colostrum. Familiar with colostrum that.

1078
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: It sounds more familiar. I feel like it was.

1079
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 4: Briefly it was like an athletic performance supplement tread, but

1080
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 4: like it's it's the milk that comes in the first

1081
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 4: twenty four hours sexual rich we'll need yeah, or from

1082
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 4: whatever animal right, and any mammal.

1083
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: I would imagine milk produced by the memory glands of

1084
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 2: humans and other mammals immediately following delivery of the new born. Yeah, yeah,

1085
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: that's so better summary than I made Thank you down.

1086
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1087
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 4: Always, So they're gonna need about five hundred mills on

1088
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 4: the first day. I think it's about a pint. It's

1089
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: you want it to be warm, so you can buy

1090
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 4: frozen cloussum. You can buy powdered classroom, but you don't

1091
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: want to microwave it. The clossroom has some antibodies in it.

1092
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 4: Which help the little sheeps like stumbach i suppose get

1093
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 4: ready for the world, so it's why you don't want

1094
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 4: to microwave it. So generally they're pretty easy to bottle feed.

1095
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 4: Like if you stick your finger in, the lamb will

1096
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 4: just like start sucking on that. It's a good sign

1097
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 4: that it's you know, it's ready to bottle feed, and

1098
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 4: it's easy to bottle feed, so that you can sometimes

1099
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 4: do that's kind of a way to lure them in

1100
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 4: and then start bottle feeding them. Sometimes you have to

1101
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: sort of rub them a bit to get them to feed,

1102
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 4: and then they like to have their milk powder of

1103
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 4: the if you're doing powdered milk, right, if with these

1104
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 4: awful lambs, but every four hours, and you're just going

1105
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 4: to gradually increase the amount you feed them, and you

1106
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 4: know they'll need things like a heat lamp right to

1107
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 4: keep them warm because they don't have that big heat

1108
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 4: sink of their mum embedding and water. And you know,

1109
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 4: a bit later you can it's a bit easier, right,

1110
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 4: you can get a bucket with teats, so you just

1111
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 4: you're literally screwing the teats that go on a milk

1112
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 4: bottle onto the bucket instead, so they can drink of that.

1113
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 4: But it's a lot of work getting awful lambs. Like

1114
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 4: they'll want to eat about every four hours. It doesn't

1115
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 4: matter if you're sleeping, they still want to eat. So

1116
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 4: like I can remember doing that a lot when it's little,

1117
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 4: and you can get like once the lamb gets a

1118
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 4: bit older, you're going to want to do things like

1119
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: you might want to castrate it, depending, you might want

1120
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 4: to dock its tail, depending, you might want to vaccinate

1121
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 4: it or you do want to vaccinate it. But also

1122
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 4: like they need time to be social with other sheeps,

1123
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 4: so like you can't just get one awful lamb and

1124
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 4: raise it like some kind of sheep person that they

1125
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 4: need to play with other sheep. They need to time

1126
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 4: to run around. They can be quite fun that they'll

1127
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 4: follow you around often, but the law and sheep that

1128
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 4: you get sort of run around and they'll follow you around,

1129
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 4: so that's kind of fun. And then you do eventually,

1130
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 4: like if you especially if you're raising a lot of

1131
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 4: orphan lambs, you're going to have ram lambs, right, and

1132
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 4: so you're either going to have to castrate those or

1133
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 4: sell them because you're going to create an issue of

1134
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 4: inbreeding within your flock. Otherwise if you just keep all

1135
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 4: the lambs right, And so that's the thing to think about.

1136
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 4: If you're going to have sheep, at some point you're

1137
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 4: either going to need to buy more or breed them.

1138
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 4: And if you're going to breed them, what are you

1139
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 4: going to do with the ram lambs? So you can

1140
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 4: castrate them, they become weathers and that's generally where meat

1141
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 4: comes from that people eat. You don't want to participate

1142
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 4: in that. You're just going to pass it on someone

1143
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 4: else's right, you know, think the Unfortunately, this is commercial agriculture,

1144
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 4: even if you don't eat meat, like it's about killing animals,

1145
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: which is why I.

1146
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 2: Don't like to do that.

1147
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 4: Yes, so with lambs, when you've got pregnant use you'll

1148
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 4: want to scan them, see how many lambs there are,

1149
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 4: and that helps you make feeding decisions for the pregnant you.

1150
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 4: That's sort of when you can look at like how

1151
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 4: many lambs are coming right, how much does she need

1152
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 4: to eat? And then once you've done this, you want

1153
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 4: to get your barn ready for lambing.

1154
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: Just put.

1155
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: We used to use pallets, you know, palettes things come

1156
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 4: on when you buy like a lot of sheep food

1157
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 4: for instance. You know it comes on a palette with

1158
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 4: a forklift can get under. You can just use those

1159
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 4: to separate out little stalls from to lamb in, put

1160
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 4: some straw in there, and then when they lamb, just

1161
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 4: because again they've been bread selectively for so long, they

1162
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 4: can sometimes strugger, struggle deliver. And if you're of the

1163
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 4: means to so, having a vet of course is lovely, right,

1164
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 4: like a large animal vet. But generally people who have

1165
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 4: farming commerc who don't have the resources to do that,

1166
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 4: it's just it's just not doesn't fit with you know,

1167
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 4: the cost of doing that. So you mostly do it yourself,

1168
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 4: like I've done it a lot. You and you want

1169
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 4: to get yourself a full arm glove, like a full

1170
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 4: plastic glove that gets like a sleeve glove, and then

1171
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 4: you can you can do a lot in terms of

1172
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 4: like turning the lamb around if it's coming out the

1173
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 4: wrong way, or helping the delivery. And I'll leave you

1174
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 4: to google that on your own time.

1175
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 2: But you just need to do all that one No,

1176
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's a miracle of life, Daniel. Then you

1177
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: just beautiful things beautiful in its own ways.

1178
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1179
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 4: It's really sweet when you get the lamb out and

1180
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 4: you're like, ah, yeah, I turn it around and it's

1181
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: get it pops up and it does a little shake

1182
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 4: and it stands on itsself feet. It's very sweet. It's

1183
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 4: kind of amazing compared to human babies. Human babies come

1184
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 4: out and like I've seen a few human babies and

1185
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: they're just like not particularly useful or capable in their

1186
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: early life. Lambs come out and they like they get

1187
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 4: up and they can run around and they can suckle,

1188
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 4: and like, you know, within twenty four hours they're like

1189
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: a functional tiny sheep. So that that's going nice. So

1190
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 4: you do want to when they're when they're when they're born, right,

1191
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 4: you just sort of get into the little little nose

1192
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 4: and mouth area and just clear that from anything that

1193
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 4: might be blocking it, just so they can breathe. You

1194
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 4: can use a bit of straw to get into the

1195
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 4: little nostrils just just to sort of get any any

1196
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 4: mucus or whatever out, and then you cut the umbilical

1197
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 4: cord up stay and disinfect that just with somebiodine. I

1198
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 4: think you can see actually that I send you one

1199
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 4: picture of a lamb last night where it's you can

1200
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 4: see where it's been disinfected and it's umbilical cord. Sometimes

1201
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: you just want to strip a couple of like you

1202
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 4: just want to check that you can give milk. Sometimes

1203
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 4: the teats can get plugged up and they're pregnantce you

1204
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 4: just give it a little little squeeze. Yes, So then

1205
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 4: then within a week and I want to do things

1206
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 4: like docking tails and castrating. Some some breeds can I'm outside,

1207
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 4: but some can't. So again, this is all stuff to

1208
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 4: consider when you're trying to buy your sheep.

1209
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: Right.

1210
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 4: The last thing I've got about lambing is sometimes you

1211
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 4: use will reject the lamb. You can either try and

1212
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 4: like hold the u in place so the lamb can suckle,

1213
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 4: or if she's really hurting them, then you take them

1214
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 4: away and then you have to look after them yourself.

1215
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: And then they become your little friends and you can

1216
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 4: give them names. Yeah, it's very sweet, fine, like I said, unfortunately, yeah, yeah, right.

1217
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: This is a thing with commercial agriculture, right, Like it's

1218
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 4: the nature of the thing, Like if you're you have cattle,

1219
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 4: what are you going to do with the with the

1220
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 4: you know, any male offspring of any species, right, even

1221
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 4: if you just had the sheep and you want to

1222
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 4: have them for milk, cool, But they're not going to

1223
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 4: continue lactating for their whole life, so they're going to

1224
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 4: have to have lambs, and then they're going to have

1225
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 4: to have lambs. You're going to have to decide what you

1226
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 4: want to do with the ram lambs, and so it's

1227
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 4: a difficult thing. It's not for everyone, but yeah, she

1228
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,479
Speaker 4: wonderful creatures, very friends. You know, if you're walking past,

1229
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 4: you could you could see if someone's trained them to

1230
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 4: come to the words sheep just by shouting sheep at them.

1231
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 4: And if not, you know, passes by will think you've

1232
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 4: correctly identified the species, So big dub for you either way. Yeah,

1233
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 4: the sheep is a wonderful animal. They're very friendly of

1234
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 4: all the farm animals. I think they're my favorite and

1235
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 4: just growing up around them. If you're small, like you know,

1236
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 4: only do it if you're a very little human, probably

1237
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 4: not old enough to listen to some of the content

1238
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 4: we broadcast. If your agent want to be in like

1239
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 4: single digits, but you can ride them. You can sort

1240
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 4: of sit on them, fold on the shoulders and ride

1241
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 4: them around.

1242
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: Wow.

1243
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 4: Really it's not a controlled experience like it's just going

1244
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 4: to run because it doesn't. It doesn't like you on

1245
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 4: its back, and you know, it might not be very

1246
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 4: nice for sheep thinking about it. But yeah, many many

1247
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 4: wonderful things you can do with sheep. They're very rewarding

1248
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 4: to have, I will say. But yeah, it's sad. It's

1249
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 4: also a difficult thing. So yeah, it did something too.

1250
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 4: Consider if you if you do milk, then they make

1251
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 4: good cheese. I think that's the primary reason that people

1252
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 4: dairy sheep.

1253
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: It is for cheese.

1254
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 4: I don't think many people are drinking sheep milk. You know,

1255
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 4: please don't let me know if you are. It's fine,

1256
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 4: I'm happy for you. No need, there's no need to

1257
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 4: share now. Yeah sheep. The every every wool pair of socks,

1258
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 4: very wool jumper that you have, every sheep's cheese that

1259
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 4: you eat, comes from these wonderful animals. Now you know

1260
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 4: a little more about and you can get sheep soad too.

1261
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 4: That's my last plug for this sheep. So it looks

1262
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 4: like a sheep, but in the middle of it it's

1263
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 4: so cute. Yeah, it's very good for washing your hands

1264
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 4: and maybe one day we will have cool zoned media

1265
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 4: sheep soap for you to buy.

1266
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not pictures of it, and it was that's

1267
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: a past for me. But you know what, there's a

1268
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: lot of people there who so more power. More power

1269
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 2: to them.

1270
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, disappointing Daniel and sheep. Actually, yeah, put post pictures

1271
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 4: of your sheep and tag me and various social media

1272
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 4: someone some people already do. But yeah, that's that's about

1273
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 4: what I got on sheep and any sheep questions before

1274
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 4: we go.

1275
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I will say each new sheep

1276
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: fact brought up another sheep question. But I think you

1277
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 2: did a great job of explaining owning sheep, taking care

1278
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: of sheep, rearing, sheep lambing. I mean I've I've come

1279
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 2: away with with a with a whole bale full of

1280
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: knowledge about sheepis me? What about you? Yeah, I've learned

1281
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 2: there's the sheep flippers. I can't getting sheep flippers, r KO,

1282
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: and your sheep is great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we can do one way. You teach me one

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Speaker 4: r KO.

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Speaker 2: It's down. I will teach you by showing you as

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Speaker 2: opposed to performing it. But yes, I will, I will

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Speaker 2: tell you, definitely teach you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's our next live show. But yeah, I enjoy

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Speaker 4: the stuff that you now know about sheep everyone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this has been It could happen here, find

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Speaker 2: us on the internet at cool Zone Media, or it

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Speaker 2: could happen here pod. Right, I never do that happen here, pod,

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Speaker 2: but I know it needs to happen. Happen here pod.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah yeah, put it put into the search

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Speaker 2: engine of your choice. It'll come up. Do you guys

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Speaker 2: want to plug anything before we leave? Mia you go first?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I got nothing, I got I got elon musk

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Speaker 1: got me so I don't have social media anymore?

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Speaker 2: Here you go? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess if you're in the US, check out Navajoate.

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Speaker 4: You're a sheep every cool Navajoach're a sheep association. You

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Speaker 4: know it's good to support indigenous folks. The rest of

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Speaker 4: us will be sheep farming. I'm stolen Land in facts.

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Speaker 4: It's all everything we're doing is all stolen Land. You

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Speaker 4: can check me out on Twitch. I'm Twitch dot tv,

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Speaker 4: slash dj Underscore Danel that's.

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Speaker 2: It magic, Thank you, Dano Cool. All right, let's end it.

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