1 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: The SIST one Bills Live presented by Call Light of Health. 2 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: Here we be on a Wednesday Bills back out on 3 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: the practice field. We'll get you the updates on that 4 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: in just a second. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you 5 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: as always. And it was a busy trade deadline day 6 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: one that included activity from the Bills after we were 7 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: off the air. Two trades by Buffalo. As you probably 8 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: all well know unless you've been living under a rock. 9 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Dean Marlow back with the Bills in a trade with 10 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta for a seventh round draft choice. I seem to 11 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: remember hearing that somewhere. And then the other trade affecting 12 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: the offense. Niheem Hines is a Buffalo Bill as the 13 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Colts running back was traded to the Bills in exchange 14 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: for Zach Moss and a conditional sixth round draft choice 15 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. So those are the two player acquisitions. 16 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: Moscow is to Indie and Zach Moss may play sooner 17 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: than we think. Jonathan Taylor's toes ankle is still messed up, 18 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: so they may need him sooner in than I will 19 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: say this, it was a monument as occasion yesterday when 20 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: that trade was announcing Brownie slaps it because I will 21 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: say this, we don't know anything. We're in the same 22 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: building with Brandon Bean and the Scows, but yeah, we 23 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: don't know anything that's going on over there that we're 24 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: not in that loop. Right. But three or four days ago, 25 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: Chris Brown wrote on the whiteboard, and you know our 26 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: infamous whiteboard where we have he said, Dean Marlow from 27 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: Atlanta for a seventh put it on the white board. 28 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: I was like, ah, whatever, and thank you for dismissing 29 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: it out of hand. By the way, boom Brownie with 30 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: the grand slam home run, the leadoff home run as 31 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: Dean Marlow indeed for a seventh round pick coming back 32 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: for a step. I mean, you got it every I 33 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: mean he called it, folks. He pointed to the center 34 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: field fence and knocked it right over the yard marker. 35 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: It was I'll soak that up. I'll take that. It 36 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: was fortunate. It was a sad day in my part 37 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: because none of my white board stuff comes true. Well, 38 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: you're thirteen and four record for the Bills. Got a 39 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: chance that it hasn't comes true yet, I know, but 40 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a good look at it, right I'm 41 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: gonna have a good look at They'll probably go fourteen 42 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: and three and I'll be here sick. You can't complain 43 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: if that happens. But no Brownie called it, and it 44 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. And I know this too. 45 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: Bills fans have got to be really kind of giddy 46 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: that when they heard that. When Dean Marlow found out 47 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: who's come back to Buffalo, he and his wife and 48 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: family were absolute. They were over the moon. Over the 49 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: moon they are. They can't wait to get back here. 50 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: And certainly he's out of practice today, and he was 51 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: a important depth player for this roster. Behind wanted him 52 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: behind Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde. Obviously, Hide is out 53 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: for the year after undergoing next surgery for a herniated disc, 54 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: and Poyer is dealing with an elbow injury right now, 55 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: suffered on Sunday night. Not practicing today. And we'll get 56 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: you the practice updates in a second. But Marlow was 57 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: usually the first safety on the field when one of 58 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: those two guys was injured back in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, 59 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, and then Jaquan Johnson comes on the scene 60 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty to marrow Hamlin shortly thereafter, and Dean 61 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: Marlowe after the twenty twenty season, goes to Detroit for 62 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: a year, plays there, and then latches on with Atlanta. 63 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: This passed off season and he was largely a depth 64 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: player there as well. But he knows this system inside 65 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: and out and that when you're parachuting in midseason, Steve, 66 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. It's kind of helped, no question. 67 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: But I think you know, in today's in the day 68 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: and age of the day, you know how to play 69 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: the defenses. You just you just need to know the words, 70 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: and Marlo will pick that up a little bit faster. 71 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: I think. I think the thing that's important his travels 72 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: over the last year and a half. He left Buffalo, 73 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: and Buffalo said, we totally understand he wanted to get 74 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: on the field. He goes to Detroit, they pay him 75 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: like a starter. He plays there for one year, and 76 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: then Detroit Lions, being the Detroit Lions, they make changes 77 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: and he's now he's a free agent, goes to Atlanta, 78 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: but ends up back in Buffalo. The Bills when he 79 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: left told him that we love you, man, we don't 80 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: want you to go. You never know, and Brandon being 81 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: alluded to this conversation with some other players who are 82 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: like Zach Moss who's left, says, listen, you never know 83 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: how things are going to turn out. If you know, 84 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: we may get you back here someday somewhere. I mean 85 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: think about you know, Jordan Phillips and Shack Lawson and 86 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: all these guys, they're proof of it. Um now Dean Martin, 87 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: now Dean Marlowe. They come back, and it's really cool 88 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: to see Dean marlow react the way he did, and 89 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: then to see the club handle it in that way. 90 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: Even got his old jersey number back. He's thirty one. 91 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Nihiim Hines is going to wear a jersey number twenty. 92 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: I think it was the only number available in the twenties. 93 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: And so you have these two acquisitions. General manager Brandon 94 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: Bean addressed the media just a short time ago, right 95 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: before the noon hour, and we want to play some 96 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: of his initial comments where he addressed these two player 97 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: acquisitions for the Bills. I learned last night that Ron 98 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: Rivera's mother passed away. So I want to send our 99 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: condolences from me and my family, the mcdermot's and all 100 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: the people in Buffalo Bills for Ron and his family. 101 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: I want to thank our scouts for our pro department 102 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: really the last few weeks. You know, obviously there's rumors 103 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: out there and swirling and we'll get into some of that, 104 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: but these guys, you know, for us acquiring two players 105 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: at the end, there's a lot of watching tape, making calls, 106 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: going through the process, going through contracts, going through everything 107 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: to pare down what positions we're targeting or what players 108 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: were looking into. So those guys did a great job 109 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: of helping helping me kind of filter this down to 110 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: the decisions we made yesterday. Safety wise, you know, we 111 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: ended up with Dean Marlowe. You guys are very familiar 112 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: with Dean. You know, Sean and I had him in Carolina. 113 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: We got obviously, I think he started seven or eight 114 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: games for us here in his time. It was a 115 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 1: fill in and if something happened to Jordan and Micah, 116 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: kind of that third safety. So with Mica being out 117 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 1: for the year and then Jordan I'm still being nicked 118 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: up and you know, we can try to work his 119 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: way back. This gives us a guy who knows um 120 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: our team, our defense, and we looked at we probably 121 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: narrowed it down to about ten safeties the last few 122 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: days and even before Jordan was was re injured the 123 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: other night, we were still looking at that position. You know, 124 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: no one Michael wouldn't be back so um. But ultimately, 125 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, we just you know, through all the calls 126 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: and all the research, we felt like the best fit 127 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: ended up being Dean and we made that move yesterday. 128 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: Running back wise, I know that's been rumored a lot. 129 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: I'd say a lot of those were probably more rumors 130 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: than than all factual what was out there. But you know, 131 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of posturing that goes on and leveraging 132 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: and a couple of those you know. I'll get into 133 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: naihim here in a minute, but you know, I know 134 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: it started with McCaffrey. Uh. Yes, that was the last draft. 135 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: I was there in Carolina, know him well. You know 136 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: when you hear he's on the block, um, and be 137 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: doing my due diligence to not look into that. The 138 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: process of how we look into things from a scouting 139 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: standpoint is our scouts are they have teams they're responsible 140 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: for and they're tracking everything. And when you hear buzzes 141 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: out there on Twitter, on in the media whatever, that 142 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: a player may be available that's their job to turn 143 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: on the film, evaluate them, and then look into them. 144 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: And there are times when things get put out there 145 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: that the Buffalo Bills are after this player. Sometimes I'm 146 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: not even aware. And I say that in the sense 147 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: that a scout may have. You know, we may have 148 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: a scout and he's in charge of the Denver Broncos, 149 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: and he may call his contact at that team and say, hey, 150 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: is you know, is this guy even available? Should I 151 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: even mention him? Should I not? Sometimes you never even 152 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: hear back whether the guy's available or not, and then 153 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: you read two days later that we went after them. 154 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: And so I say that just to help us all 155 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: how the process works. You know, the out that leads 156 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: me to album Kamara, you know that was the scouts 157 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: looking into you know, they put something out, you know, 158 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: maybe Philly was in or someone I can't remember the 159 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: team and checked into it. Never actually got an answer 160 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: whether he was available or not. And then Sunday is 161 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: reported on one of the shows that we were rebuffed. Well, 162 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: I never spoke to their GM about you know, that's 163 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: just how the process works. So I want you know, 164 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: for all of us, that's how we work internally. I 165 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: know you guys have a job to do, but sometimes 166 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: when you here were involved. Now again, I did on 167 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. I did speak to the Panthers GM never 168 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: made him an offer, but did stay in touch through 169 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: the process, and ultimately it was going to be more 170 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: than we were going to be able to do. So 171 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: I think that's that Naheim is a guy you guys 172 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: know me sometimes with Steph or Manuel Sanders. Nah, He's 173 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: a guy looked into in the past. I think the 174 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: first time we checked on him was the training camp 175 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: of COVID and then checked on him again last offseason 176 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: before before we went after mckissic and then ultimately drafted James. 177 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: But he's a guy you know, we like through the 178 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: draft process all the way back in twenty eighteen, and 179 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, obviously we saw him up close a few times, 180 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: made some big plays in the playoff game against us, 181 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: and just he's a you know, he's more of a 182 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: guy that's just a weapon with the ball in his hand, 183 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: whether it's a punt returner, kick returner, as a receiver, 184 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: he runs jet sweeps, he runs the wildcat. So we 185 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: just felt this was a chance to add another guy 186 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: that Ken Dorsey and Josh and the crew can use, 187 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: you know, just as another offensive piece and again helps 188 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: us as a punt returner too. We lost Crowder earlier 189 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: in the year. Shaquier has done a really good job, 190 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: but as a rookie, that's that's a lot. And he's 191 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: still trying to get his feet settled at wide receiver. 192 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: And so to add a guy with um with his 193 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: ability to a punt return, just thought it made too 194 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: much sense. Um. None of this was a negative on Zach. 195 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: It just you know, I think we all saw, you know, 196 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: Zach is a very good player, and I want everybody 197 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: to understand that Zack's going to have success in this league. Um, 198 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: But the way our offense works, you got to get 199 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: Devin a lather. You know, Cook's got his role, and 200 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: it was just hard to get Zach the role that 201 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: he wants. And so I think this will give him 202 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity to showcase his skill set as well. So 203 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: hopefully this is a win for the Bills, a win 204 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, for Zach and the Colts and where they're heading. 205 00:11:51,040 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: But no, I'm good, I'm good. Your first step would 206 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: be that he's a rookie, want to better guy, this 207 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: particular season, second part School of thought away as you 208 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: guys running back the short gardage guy, I really wouldn't 209 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: give you that acts of it. Yeah, I think Devin's 210 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: done a good job, you know, with with his role 211 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: of of the short yardage stuff. I think we feel good, 212 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: um with him in that role. I mean, Zach is 213 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: a is a banger if you want to call, if 214 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: you want to use that word. But um, you know 215 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: we still the way our offense is built. We just 216 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, his reps are relented. You know, he's a guy. 217 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be better if you're able to get 218 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: him ten plus touches a game, get get that ladder 219 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: kind of going, and just you know, you want to 220 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: get Devin going, and you want to get cooked the 221 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: ball and you know the other guys you know we 222 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: got we got Josh and we want to have the 223 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: ball in his hands as well. So, um and as 224 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: far as James like, this is just another guy, this, 225 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: this want to this shouldn't affect James at all. This 226 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: is a a proven moody that does some of the 227 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: same things. But also does you know there can be 228 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: as he learns the offense, there can be multiple packages 229 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: where James and naihim are in the game at the 230 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: same time, or you know, still James and Devin or 231 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Devin and Nihim. You know, I think it just makes us, 232 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: He gives us the opportunity to be you know, more versatile, multiple, 233 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, variations of the different personnel packages that that 234 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: coach Dorsey can can put out there. You mentioned Josh 235 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: and as part of the mix in the short guardage roll, 236 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: and obviously given his mobility, that's that's part of the offense. 237 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: But I would ask the larger question. We've talked about 238 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: this in the past. I think a lot of people 239 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: would have Are you comfortable with the way he's managing 240 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: himself running the football at this point in his career. Yeah, 241 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean Josh is getting better and better at that. 242 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: There's always going to be some plays. I mean the 243 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: other night he makes it on that third and fourteen play, 244 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: our second driver first touchdown. When he gets that close 245 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: to the goal line, your your instincts kick in, Adam, 246 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: where you're like, I'm gonna get this ball over. I'm 247 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: not gonna assume because we get it to the two 248 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: or the one that we're gonna get in all of 249 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: a sudden, you have a false start almost anything, so um, 250 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, plays like that or third and short, fourth 251 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: and short. You know, in big moments of the game, 252 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna do it. But I think he's 253 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: done a better job. We ran the um one of 254 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: those drives. I think it was one Isaiah scored on, 255 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: but we ran a little Q draw and he slid 256 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: didn't take a hit. So I think there's there's times 257 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: he's doing really well. Um, you know, there's he's still 258 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: gonna take. He's a competitive dude, and I think he's 259 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: intentionally trying to do better and avoid those. He knows, 260 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, we gotta keep him healthy. Um, but we 261 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: also want the defense to have to worry about that fact. 262 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: I think that helps, um, you know, our you know, 263 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: our chances to move the ball. All right. That's Jim 264 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: and being addressing the media. He talked for probably another 265 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty minutes. The general synopsis and takeaways from it 266 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: I thought Steve were and he just mentioned it a 267 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: couple of minutes ago there that we were listening to him. 268 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: In his opinion, the presence of niheim Hines is not 269 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: going to impact James Cook's role in this offense at all. 270 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: We had just been talking on Monday about how Cook's 271 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: role could steadily increase with each passing week. I think 272 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: that's at least somewhat compromised by the presence of Nihem Hines, 273 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: because it is an extra mouth to feed in the 274 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: scope of the offense. I think once Hines is up 275 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: to speed, I think it's pretty safe to say that 276 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: all three of the backs are going to be up 277 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: most weeks, and with that, you're going to have to 278 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: divvy it up somehow. And I think until proven otherwise, 279 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: Singletary is going to get the bulk of the work, 280 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: with Hines and Cook kind of getting shuffled in and 281 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: out of the lineup in various capacities various packages. Hines 282 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: may also have a punt return role. It seemed very 283 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: apparent that they feel comfortable handing that to him and 284 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: knowing they felt it's a lot on Shaquire shoulders as 285 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: a rookie. Yeah, and I think too. Hines is a 286 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: guy that backs up both the running back, both in 287 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: the past and the running game. He backs up or 288 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: could take over the punt return or kick return duties. 289 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: He could back up Isaiah McKenzie or replace him and 290 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: be a kind of a redundant piece for McKenzie's position 291 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: at the slot as well as shaquer. He really is. 292 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: He's like an offensive lineman who can play all five spots. 293 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: So I think that's probably at least in the beginning 294 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: where you got a pencil him and he could be 295 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: a slot receiver, running back, punt returner, kick returner one 296 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: hundred percent of all of them, or versatile in any 297 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: of them where he could go in motion. He could 298 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: take the jet sweep like Isaiah McKenzie does. He's got 299 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: outstanding speed. And but right away I was talking to 300 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: some of the media people on the sidelines right away, 301 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: and this is what happened to me. I mean, you 302 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: show I showed up on a Saturday, I played the 303 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: next day on special teams. You could plug him in 304 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: immediately on punt returns, kickoff returns, and then work him 305 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: slowly in spot duty and the slot and the running 306 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: back spot, whatever you want. He's a really versatile athlete. 307 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: Great speed, great hands, great route running ability, the ability 308 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: to return kicks and run routes. I mean, that's that's 309 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: a lot in there. And the question is he's so 310 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: and this is maybe what happened to him in Indianapolis. 311 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: He's good at so much. There's not one role you 312 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: can get him and let him expand on it, you 313 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: know what I mean. He's just you gotta be okay. 314 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: Now we gotta move him over here. Now, we gotta 315 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: put him here, and we're gonna get in this. But 316 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: when the ball is in his hands, that guy's that 317 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: guy's at home run. So that's the question. How do 318 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: you get him the ball in a spot that gives 319 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: him some space in a consistent way. And whose reps 320 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: does that come out of? Yeah, it's got to come 321 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: from somebody else's time, because the guy he replaced on 322 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: the roster in Zach Moss, was not getting time. So 323 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: he's going to eat into somebody's time somewhere somehow. And 324 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: I think the reason people are concerned about what this 325 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: means for James Cook and perhaps stunting his growth is 326 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: the fact that their skill sets are pretty similar. I mean, 327 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: these are two backs who are polished route runners, did 328 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot of route running at out wide in college. 329 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: Himes went to NC State as a receiver. He was 330 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: then used at running back as well, but he was 331 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: a receiver. He knows what zones fast. Yeah, and he's 332 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: a four three eight guy. Cook is a four four 333 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: two guys, so they're pretty comparable in the speed department. 334 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that I almost died about, Steve. 335 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: This offense got faster with the addition of Hines, and yeah, 336 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: they did you know, speed kills, and you want to 337 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: run that wide zone running game with Hines and Cook, 338 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: you can make a lot of haye with those two guys. Yeah, 339 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: And I get it. People are all giddy. It's like, Wow, 340 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: won't it be great if James Cook and Niheim Hines 341 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: get on the field at the same time. Okay, fine, 342 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: but that's not Yeah, well you can if one's in 343 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: the backfield and one's in the slot. Yeah, I get it. 344 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: But there's no difference between that and having you know, 345 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie at the slot, you know. So I anyway, Yeah, 346 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun to think about. But let's 347 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: just see how the guy does for a while before 348 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: we start, you know, transforming an offense that's not broken, right, 349 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: And I asked coach McDermott today, you know how what's 350 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: realistic in terms of Hines's assimilation into an offense that 351 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: is pretty voluminous and asks a lot of its players 352 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: in terms of knowing a multitude of roles, and he 353 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: would fit into that category just based on his versatility alone. 354 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: And he said, We're just gonna have to wait and see. 355 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: They know in the scouting that they've done on him, 356 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: they believe him to be a pretty intelligent player, guy 357 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: that picks things up quickly. We'll find out how quickly 358 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. Here. Dean Marlowe, however, is a 359 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: much different situation. Guy's been in this defense for the 360 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: better part of his career because he was not only 361 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: working under McDermott here in Buffalo, he was serving under 362 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: McDermott and Carolina when he was defensive coordinator there as 363 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: a practice squad player. So he's been a part of 364 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: this defensive system almost for all but two years of 365 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: his playing career. It's possible for Marlowe probably to be 366 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: a bigger factor on the field early on than Hines 367 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: as fun as his and think about Hines going to 368 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: score and touchdowns stuff, Dean Marlowe may be on the 369 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: field a lot quicker. I would anticipate this. I would say, 370 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: let's just say hypothetically Payer can't play this week, just 371 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: we don't know anything, but let's just say he can't 372 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: play this week. Jaquan Johnson and to mar Hamlin start. 373 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Marlow is the first safety 374 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: on the field if there's another injury at the position. Yeah, 375 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: and the only reason. And that's no knock against cam Lewis. 376 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: Who is you know, one of the other backup safeties. 377 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: But the facts are these. Cam Lewis played his entire 378 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: college career cornerback at UB He's played almost his entire 379 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: career here in Buffalo with the Bills as a cornerback. 380 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: Only this passed off season that they try to shift 381 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: him to safety to learn an additional position. I remember 382 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: talking to him in August and he said, yeah, it 383 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: is an adjustment. All the angles are different. I'm trying 384 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: to master angles of entry, you know, to make tackles. 385 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: The reds are different, a lot more space to cover. 386 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: So there are a lot of things that he's trying 387 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: to learn on the fly. And I'm not saying he's 388 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: not better now than he was in August. I trust 389 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: that he is. But the difference between a guy who 390 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: is learning a new position at the NFL level for 391 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: a team that's really got dreams of going places. Dean 392 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: Marlowe is valuable insurance because he's a guy that you know, 393 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: knows how to execute in this system and that's key, Yeah, exactly, 394 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: And I think that's why he may see the field 395 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: a lot more earlier than might be up on special 396 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: teams and yeah, and he can certainly cover kicks as well. 397 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: But Hines, Hines and Marlowe. I think the thing about 398 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: these trades, and it was a record setting if you 399 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: haven't heard, it was a record setting day yesterday at 400 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: the deadline around the NFL. Tons of transactions took place, 401 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: which is unusual because back in decades past you would 402 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: see zero trades made. Now it's it's, you know, a norm. 403 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: But the trades that with the Bills that happened yesterday, 404 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you're getting some guys that are gonna be 405 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: on the field the second half of this season for 406 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. So you're gonna get to know these guys. 407 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: It's unusual to think that because this is a team 408 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: that's they're gonna go. Man, this team has got they're 409 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: expected to be in and expect themselves to be in 410 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: a shot at the super Bowl this year, and to 411 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: be able to grab two guys of this caliber that 412 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: could help at spots where they need it. I mean, 413 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: I gotta tip my hat to Brandon Being and his guys. 414 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: They are hitting on all cylinders at every level of 415 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: this organization. Well, he's let alone on the field itself. 416 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: Like he said today, He's always looking and sometimes things 417 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: don't work out. The thing that I found interesting was 418 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: they cast a pretty wide net at the safety position. 419 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: It was clearly a top priority for this organization to 420 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: get some depth at the safety position. Knowing you'll lost 421 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: Micah Hyde for the year, player's dealing with an injury 422 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: and is nicked up right now, they needed depth at 423 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: the position. He said they had ten identified options at safety, 424 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: ten different players across the league that they had their 425 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: eye on. Maybe called about all ten. Who knows how 426 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: far all of those discussions got. Obviously, compensation factors into 427 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: who you're going to pursue more ardently and who you're 428 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: going to pull out on. But in the end it 429 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: God whittled down to Dean Marlowe and the deal got done. 430 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was also interesting Steve that Being told 431 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: us as of one pm yesterday when we went on 432 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: the air, or were when we went on the air, 433 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: neither of these two deals were anywhere close to happening. Yeah, 434 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable how deadlines make things happen. Yeah, isn't it? 435 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: It is? And you know ten different options. You're right, 436 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: this is I mean, they're they're in go for it mode, 437 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: but they're in doing it in such a way as 438 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 1: to continually have that window on the back end. Just 439 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: there's no back end of this window slamming, you know 440 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Marlow's under I mean, Hines is under 441 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: contract for another couple of years. Yeah, and they got 442 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: him on a good on a great deal. He can 443 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: be in this locker room now for the foreseeable future 444 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: through twenty twenty four. So they're not looking to just 445 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: push all their chips to the table. But it's a 446 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: calculated thing that and for a seventh Marlow is perfect. Right. 447 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: We should pass along to you the Practice Update for today, 448 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: presented by Lee Coom lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine. 449 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: As we mentioned, there are players taking some veteran rest days. 450 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: Those are de Kwon Jones, Von Miller and Roger saffold 451 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: injured players not participating during the media viewing portion of 452 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: practice Jordan Poyer, who left the game with an elbow injury, 453 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: Matt Milano who sustained an oblique muscle injury in the 454 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: game on Sunday night, and Taiwan Jones was not seen 455 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: out there at practice either today. He was dealing with 456 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: an injury going into last week's game. Did suit up 457 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: and play, but apparently is still dealing with that, so 458 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: we'll have to see where all those go. Coach McDermott 459 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: labeled all of those players day to day, so I 460 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: guess that's good news. The other bit of good news 461 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: Spencer Brown back out on the practice field after missing 462 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: last week's game with the ankle injury that he suffered 463 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: in Week six against the Kansas City Chiefs in the 464 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: second half. David Questenberry has been filling in for him 465 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: since he's been out of the lineup, So we'll see 466 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: if Spencer Brown can get all the way back to 467 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: active status come this weekend. So those are your Bill's 468 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: practice updates. The only other update to give you tradevious 469 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: White in case you missed it. Yesterday and all the 470 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: trade talk was activated to the fifty three man roster 471 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: off of the reserve pup list. Now the only thing 472 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: that has changed in terms of his chances of playing 473 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: anytime soon. Each of the last couple of times once 474 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: Trey started practicing with the team, coach McDermott ruled White 475 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: out not available for that upcoming game. Each of the 476 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: last two times a game has been on the schedule. 477 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: While Tray was practicing today, he was asked, are you 478 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: going to rule him out early this week again? And 479 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: he said, no, I am not ruling him out this week. 480 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: He is day to day. They want to see how 481 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: it goes through the course of the practice week this week, 482 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: and then they get to the end of the week, 483 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: they'll make a decision. I thought. I thought coach McDermot 484 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: kind of chose his words carefully. He basically said, when 485 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: Trey is ready, he'll play, which is obviously vague, but 486 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: it's clear to me, Steve, they are in no hurry 487 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: to put him out there unless they believe he is right. 488 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: And I thought Brandon being brought up in a stute 489 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: point as well when he addressed the media, because he 490 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: essentially said, we have to remember Tray didn't have a 491 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: training camp there was no on ramp to regular season 492 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: football for Tray. So even though he's been practice, saying 493 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, he's been doing it in 494 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: limited fashion. I mean, he's not getting a full compliment 495 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: of reps in the practice setting the last two weeks. 496 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: I think that begins in earnest now. But they got 497 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: to on ramp him for regular season football. You can't 498 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: just drop him in out of the sky and tell 499 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: him go play sixty five snaps, you know what I mean. Yeah, 500 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: I think best case scenario, more likely scenario. He's up 501 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: this week and he's an emergency guy. He'll probably get 502 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: thrown in for a handful of play. He's not a 503 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: pitch count, yeah, and then see how it goes. You're right, though, 504 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: I'll say this is the training camp thing. Yes, no question. 505 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: He hasn't taken any reps. Oh, he's taken some reps 506 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: now in practice, but his training camp, I don't I 507 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: don't want to make light of it. But his training 508 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: camp probably wouldn't have been that strenuous anyway. And with 509 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: he's not been training out away from the city. He 510 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: has been in the house with the sports science and 511 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: the coaches and the people who know, saying listen, got 512 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: to do this, not to do this, gotta do this, 513 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: data all over the place. He's going to be more 514 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: ready than a guy coming out of training camp, or 515 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: at least a guy coming into training camp to be 516 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: ready to play. So he's in meetings, he's got all that, 517 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 1: he's got the mental side of it. He'll ramp up 518 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: very quickly, in my opinion, but they may start him slow. 519 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: Even despite that, I think he'll like we said, like 520 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: you've said all along, he'll come in play a handful 521 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: of plays. Maybe he may. It may be as much 522 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: as rotating in for a series said okay, this is 523 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: your series, and he goes for three or four play 524 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: and maybe a three and out or maybe an eleven 525 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: play drive, who knows, And they'll keep an eye on 526 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: that and then pull him off and say, okay, there 527 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: you go. And that may be an it for the day, 528 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: or we may get that once every half on each half, 529 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: or we may get one a quarter. It may be 530 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: that big, or it may be you know, that may 531 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: be where it started the whole thing. It may take 532 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: him a month or four more games to go in. 533 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: All right. Now he's playing, he's gonna take every snap. Yeah, yeah, 534 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna slow play this. So I do 535 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: believe if he plays this week, he'll be on a 536 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: pitch count for sure. We have to take as before 537 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: that too. I know this. You know this too. They 538 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: are not going to be dissuaded from taking a slow 539 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: for him. So if they drop a game to the Jets, 540 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're gonna say, wait minute, we gotta 541 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: get him on the That's not gonna happen, not with 542 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: this team. He's gonna play when he's ready, despite whatever 543 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: happens on Sundays for this team. Break time for us here. 544 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: When we return, we're gonna be joined by ESPN NFL 545 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: reporter for the Colts, Stephen Holder, who's going to shed 546 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more light on what Bills fans can 547 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: expect from their newest running back, Niheim Hines. Stephen Holder 548 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: coming up next here on One Bill's Live, presented by 549 00:30:45,840 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back 550 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, 551 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: and please to be joined now by ESPN NFL reporter 552 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: for the Colts, Stephen Holder, as we discuss one of 553 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: the two trades the Bills made yesterday at the deadline, 554 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: the acquisition of running back Niheim Hines in exchange for 555 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: Zach Moss in a conditional sixth round draft choice. Stephen, 556 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm doing great. I needed a lot 557 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: of sleep last night. Yeah, for sure. I want to 558 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: start here. I don't think there's any debate that Niheim 559 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: is a versatile talent. So and I realized the Colts 560 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: season probably hasn't gone the way they anticipated. Why do 561 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: you feel they believed him to be expendable? So there 562 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: are there's a couple of leers here, so I'll just 563 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: kind of go through them quickly. The first thing is 564 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: they haven't really gotten a lot of mileage out of him, 565 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: which has nothing to do with his talent. It just 566 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: really has to do with how he's been utilized. And 567 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: I think there were really in there were there were 568 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: real plans this season. There were there were honest plans 569 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: and earnest plans, I guess is what I'm saying, to 570 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: really expand his usage. He went to the organization after 571 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: last season saying, hey, what's up. You know, I thought 572 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: I was going to get the ball more. I resigned 573 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: with you guys for four years, what's going on? And 574 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: I think promises were made, those did not get fulfilled. 575 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: And frankly, the way the season has begun, all bets 576 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: were off right. They were just trying to find a 577 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: way to block people frankly the last month or so. Anyhow, 578 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: that's one angle of it. So did he demand a trade? 579 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: He was ready to go. And I don't know if 580 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: demands the right word, but he was very open to 581 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: a trade. And I think he knew he could be 582 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: utilized potentially better elsewhere, and we know that's when to 583 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: go ahead. Sorry, no, I was just gonna say the 584 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: other The other issue here is, you know, I think 585 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: there's been a little bit of duplication this year with 586 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: Paris Campbell their slot wide receiver because frankly, with Naheim, 587 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, catching the ball is a big part of 588 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: his role, and he was going to do some of that. 589 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: It was thought out of the slot. Well, Paris Campbell 590 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: has never been healthy in four years, but the first 591 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: time he is, he's actually become a staple in the 592 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: offense this year and is doing a lot of the 593 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: things that Nahem can do in terms of being a 594 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: versatile sort of gadget type of player, so I think 595 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: they kind of canceled each other out a little bit. 596 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: And then there's also Jonathan Taylor. If you have Naheim 597 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: Hines on the field as a running back, you're taking 598 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor off the field. That has always been an issue, 599 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: or at least has been the past year plus, So 600 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: he kind of gets lost in the shuffle. And as 601 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: poorly as their offense has performed, they do have some 602 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: duplication with him, and it's just it's just an unfortunate situation. 603 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: Their problems don't start with their skill players correct there 604 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: and they're having some problems up front. That's what I 605 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: would say for sure. Certainly Matt Ryan did not perform 606 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: well either, but I think those issues are inextricably linked 607 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: when you talk about the quarterback and immobile quarterback, particularly 608 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: with poor protection. So Stephen, you've seen flashes of what 609 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: he's capable of over the time that he's been there, 610 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: the four plus seasons. What do you believe if he 611 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: is placed in the right fit, if he can find 612 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: a niche here in the next several weeks with Buffalo, 613 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: what's his realistic ceiling? I mean, we know he's quick 614 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: as a hiccup, but what is his realistic ceiling if 615 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: his talents are maximized. So I think you have to 616 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: look at Hinz not in terms of volume, but in 617 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: terms of specific impact, you know, and that impact may 618 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: come periodically, it may not be every single down. And look, 619 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: the Colts have never really viewed him as an every 620 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: down running back because that's not what he is. Right, 621 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: He's a guy who I think you use in spots, 622 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: but he can be extremely useful if used properly. And 623 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: so what you'll see is I think a guy who 624 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: can who can be a very versatile running back or 625 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: excuse me, a very versatile receiver out of the backfield 626 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: and really have to give the offense or the defense 627 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: I should say pause when he's back there, because you 628 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: know he is a dual purpose kind of player. They've 629 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: used him in Indianapolis on direct snaps and he's done 630 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: a good job there. He was a wide receiver in 631 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: college at North Carolina State, so he has tons of 632 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: experience as a as a slot receiver. He understands routes, 633 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: he understands his own defenses, so he can function as 634 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: a as a receiver very very well at high level. 635 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: So really, it's up to the Bills. It's up to 636 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: them and how they want to use him. There's not 637 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: a lot of limitations. He also is a very good 638 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: punt returner, by the way, and the Colts were sort 639 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: of pulling back on his usage there. But he is 640 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: a very, very aggressive and dangerous punt returner who in 641 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: his career had a game where he took two punts 642 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: to the house in one game. So, and I know 643 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: that this is at this time when after you just 644 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: trade for a guy, everybody's looking at him and as 645 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,479 Speaker 1: this bright shiny new object on the shelf that they're 646 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: waiting to bring down to use. What does he do? 647 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: What does he not do? Well? Yeah, well he has 648 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: early in his career he had some ball security issues. 649 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: I think he's cleaned those up for the most part. 650 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: On special teams. In the return game, he's been a 651 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: little bit shaky there at times. So that's I think 652 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: where he has to be good, especially when you're not 653 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: a guy who's getting the ball on every play right. 654 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: You've got to you can't have those mistakes when you're 655 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: getting the ball intermittently, right. The other thing is he 656 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: kind of hasn't really found his mark I think as 657 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 1: a as a traditional running back, he can run the ball. Okay, 658 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: he's a very good and solid, respectable runner as a 659 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: traditional running back. But I think sometimes what he'll do 660 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: is he may sometimes get a little too cute at times, 661 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: and I think what he's got to do is just 662 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: get north and south. But he's very very quick and 663 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: can do that. It's more about an approach rather than 664 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: a physical limitation on him there with four three eight 665 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: speed steven he seems like a perfect fit for you know, tosses, pitches, 666 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: wide zone running scheme the Bills have that, you know, 667 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: within their offense. He seems Taylor made for that. Is 668 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: that where he kind of had a lot of his 669 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: success out on the edges in the run game. Absolutely. 670 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: I think what the Colts oftentimes where his value is 671 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: is pre snap. You know, they'll use him, you know 672 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: that jet motion, you know, right right before the snap 673 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: and the defense freezes because they will hand it to 674 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: him at times there or pitch it to him. Uh, 675 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: They've thrown wheel routes to him out of the backfield 676 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: and got get him matched up on a linebacker down 677 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: the sideline. That is not a good matchup. Okay, that 678 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: is a bad matchup for the defense. So really he 679 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: can do everything. He can do all of that, and 680 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: I think he actually creates the potential for more creativity 681 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: because of his skill set. I mean, they may have 682 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: those elements in their offense, as you said, but having 683 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: them in their offense and having a player who can 684 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: who can execute it the way Naheem Heinz can is 685 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 1: two different things. So I think it's a great move 686 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: for the Bills. I told Nay personally, I was like, 687 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: you couldn't have gone to a better spot just because 688 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: you've got a dangerous quarterback and what that does from 689 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: a from a defensive standpoint, you know, having to worry 690 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: about a quarterback who can run and a running backslash 691 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver who can play multiple roles like Hines. I 692 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: think the possibilities are endless. Stephen, thanks very much for 693 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: the time. We appreciate it. That's ESPN NFL reporter Stephen 694 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 1: Holder joining us here. We will take a break because 695 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna be joined by NFL 696 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: on CBS color commentator Charles Davis. He's doing the game 697 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: this Sunday, Bills and Jets with I and Eagle on CBS. 698 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: He catches up with us next year on One Bill's Live. 699 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. All right, we're back here on One Bills Live. 700 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and please to be joined by 701 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: NFL on CBS color commentator Charles Davis, who rejoins us. 702 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: We caught up with you, Charles in the first month 703 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: of the season going into that Bills Ravens game down 704 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: in Baltimore that you and I and called. You're gonna 705 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: be wholly familiar with both of these teams because you 706 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: just did Jets Patriots last week. Yeah, and we did 707 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: in a week before, we did Jets at Denver, and 708 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: earlier this year we had Jets at home again in Cincinnati, 709 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: So I think we have a fairly good feel for 710 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: the guys in Green. So we're looking forward to doing 711 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: this one and seeing the Buffalo Bills for a second 712 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: time this year. I mean, let's just be frank about it. 713 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: If you're in the broadcast game and you're not excited 714 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: about seeing the Bills, you need to quit. Yeah. Right, 715 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: And we've been watching and of course we didn't started 716 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 1: to watch the Jets this week because we've been doing 717 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: other games and all that. But this the jet defense 718 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: is for real, that front, the front, four, front seven 719 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: in the box for the jet defense is really the 720 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: engine I think that drives this team. I mean, is 721 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: that how you see it as well? Absolutely? Steve and 722 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: I think what's really interesting about it is, you know 723 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: how many times the three of us have heard coaches 724 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: talk about, what, we really don't have starters, you know, 725 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: because we have so many guys that could be starters. 726 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: Yet every week the same four guys start Yeah, so so, yeah, 727 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: you actually do have stars. You're just peddling something, right, Well, 728 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: the cases the Jets have starters, but they are not 729 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: averse to playing eight nine guys on the defensive line, 730 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: all right. They liked that rotation system and the guys 731 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: that come in give them good play. They just traded 732 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: away one of them, Jacob Martin, he went to Denver. 733 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: But Bryce Huff comes off the bench and gives them 734 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 1: really good play. You get Nathan Sheppard, Solomon Thomas, the 735 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: former number two overall pick in the draft. Vinny Curry 736 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: is off the off the ir came off a couple 737 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: of games ago, and Jermaine Johnson, their number one pick, 738 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: has missed the last couple of games. My senses that 739 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: he'll be up and ready to go this week. So 740 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: they rotate a lot of guys in and there's one 741 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: in particular that I think has played really well for them, 742 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: and that's Michael Clemens, their fourth round pick out of 743 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: Texas A and m he's actually played better than the 744 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: first round pick Jermaine Johnson here in the early going. Yeah, 745 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: And it's almost like they took a page out of 746 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 1: the Leslie Frasier's playbook because he's been rotating eight defensive 747 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: lineman for years now, and looks like the Jets kind 748 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: of like that idea is they're employing the same thing. 749 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 1: I know it's I know it's early, Charles, but knowing 750 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: you've seen a few Jets games now you saw pre 751 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: Bryce Hall and post injury Bryce Hall Jets offense. Are 752 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: they still trying to find their way without Bruce Hall 753 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: after one game played? Do you think? I think that's 754 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: a I think it's a fair assessment. I think that 755 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: their way is what they have in mind, what they 756 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: want to do, and what they've already established. Hence the 757 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: trade for James Robinson. I don't know who Joe Douglas 758 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: their GM was targeting totally I don't know how many 759 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: different calls he made. You and I also, I mean 760 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: the three of us all know. It's kind of like 761 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: when a guy gets picked in a draft. Oh, that's 762 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: absolutely the guy we targeted, right, I mean every single time. Oh, 763 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: he is absolutely the guy we wanted. Well, so we 764 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: really don't know, but James Robinson in a lot of 765 00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:01,720 Speaker 1: ways is a clone of Bruce Hall in terms of size, style, physicality. 766 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: The one thing James Robinson doesn't have that Brees Hall 767 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: has that extra gear. And then some the Denver game 768 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: when when the Jets won at Denver, I think I 769 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: probably overused the word but it was a slog like 770 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: there was not much going on. And then Bruce Hall 771 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: took a toss sweep and sixty two yards later ran 772 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: his chest up into the goal post and that broke 773 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: the game open. You remember, it was a tight game, 774 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of scoring. That's what did it ken. 775 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: James Robinson scored touchdowns, yes, but from sixty two yards right, 776 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: that's not his game. Everything else though, he can catch it. 777 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: His pass protection is terrific. He'll run inside and beat 778 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: people up that way. He can be a high, high volume, 779 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: heavy duty back but he doesn't give you that home 780 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: run hitting ability on a consistent basis that Bruce Hall did. 781 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: But I still think the Jets want to play the 782 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: same way because Michael Carter's there. He gives him some bounce, 783 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: he can catch it. And Michael Carter works best in 784 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: a tan. Remember in North Carolina, who is in a 785 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: tandem with Javonte Williams. To the NFL, he became the 786 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 1: lead guy. They drafted Bruce Hall, and that made Michael 787 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: Carter more valuable in terms of what he does. So 788 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: that's how the Jets do want to play. But getting 789 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: their footing, I think we'll know that more about that, Chris, 790 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: and probably about three or four weeks when James Robinson 791 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: is fully acclimated to the guys in Green. Is Zach 792 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: Wilson getting better? No, he's not getting better, But that 793 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he won't see. And I think that's where 794 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: we've got to keep ourselves locked in on all of this, 795 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: is we are in that society in that time where 796 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: the snapshot is the absolute. His snapshot right now is 797 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: not one that he wants or the Jets want. In 798 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: my humble opinion, now I'm speaking for myself Okay, I'm 799 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: not gonna speak for him. I'm not gonna speak for others. 800 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it's you know, we all know football, 801 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: so be disingenuous to talk about Well, you know, just 802 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: made a mistake or two in the last ball game. 803 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 1: He didn't play very well. I don't care if he 804 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: threw for three hundred and fifty five yards. The errors 805 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: that he made were big in terms of throws, not 806 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: setting his feet, ball sales. He's trying to throw it 807 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: away from it from people and instead of getting it 808 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: in the fifth row and letting someone have a souvenir, 809 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: it's in the field of play and mccordy picks it off. 810 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: Then he throws the last one. And his team was 811 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: wearing black that day. There was one black shirt in 812 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: the picture. There were four white shirts in the picture. 813 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: Those that kind of throws he can't afford. And I'm 814 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: going through my homework and research today and there's an 815 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: article I haven't even gotten to yet, and the headline says, 816 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: GM says, Zach Wilson must cut down on turnovers. So 817 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us are are acting like 818 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's doing everything the way they want or what 819 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 1: they drafted. But that doesn't mean it can't turn around. 820 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: He was picked number two overall for a reason. He 821 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: just has not played to that level when they've needed 822 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: him to throw the football. Now, guys, let's just make 823 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: it very clear. When Bruce Hall Michael Carter were running 824 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: the ball and beating people up, he didn't have to 825 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: worry about that. If you can keep them from running 826 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: the football, make him, you know, as idro Evera, the 827 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: defense coordinator Denver, told me, our goal is to make 828 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: sure the quarterback is front and center in this game. 829 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: They didn't quite accomplish that in Denver, close but not quite. 830 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: New England accomplished it and we saw the result. But 831 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: one last time he can do this. He's capable. He 832 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: just has to get back to being the guy that 833 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: we saw that was picked out of BYU. Very quickly. 834 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: Before we let you go here, Charles, there are two 835 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: new names you have to add to your Buffalo flip 836 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: card and nihiim Hines niheem him sorry, I'm gonna get it. 837 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm learning it too, Niheim Hines and Dean Marlow. We 838 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: know Marlow's here as a depth player in your experience, 839 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: what do you think is realistic for a guy that 840 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 1: has to parachute in to a new offensive scheme mid 841 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: season in terms of contributing sooner rather than later. Well, 842 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: the good thing when Nahem Haines he can contribute on 843 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: special teams Sunday, I'd be stunned if he's not up 844 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: because he can return punts for you right out of 845 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: the gate. And running backs, as we've seen, when did 846 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey get traded to San Francisco. Didn't it feel 847 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: like he got off the plane Friday and play it 848 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: on Sunday? Yeah, you know, and then week two he 849 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 1: was the Player of the Week in the NFC. Running 850 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: backs can acclimate a lot quicker because at the end 851 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: of the day in the huddle, you say, oh, yeah, 852 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: I know what I call. Take two steps to the right. 853 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hand in the ball run it. Take two 854 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: steps to the left of hand and the ball run it. 855 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: We're going to the right. I'm gonna pitch it to you. 856 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: You can get that going. So I'd be stunned if 857 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: he's not up and ready to go. And I think 858 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: he'll contribute a lot sooner rather than later because of 859 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: his ability to catch the ball. Out of the backfield 860 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 1: and be a scatback type of a player. So I'm 861 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: not worried about that at all with him. And we 862 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: know why Marlowe was brought in. Knows the system, knows 863 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: how to play, He gives you depth in case Jordan Warriors, 864 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: a long term thing right on down the line. So 865 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think those are two really good deals. 866 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: My biggest question was I still consider I still kept 867 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: waiting to see bigger running back, Dick running back two 868 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: twenty five thirty pound running back. It'll beat people up 869 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: in the run game, short yardage, goal line, etc. And 870 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: I still don't see that in Buffaloup. But I don't 871 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: think they care because they say, oh, if you've met 872 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: number seventeen yet, Yeah, because us. Charles, Thanks man, it's 873 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: great catching up with you. We'll see you on Sunday. 874 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 1: You guys, take care of see you Sunday. All right. 875 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 1: That's Charles Davis from NFL on CBS color commentator doing 876 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: the Bills Jets game with High and Eagle this weekend 877 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium. Break time for us when we come back, 878 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: second hour is open to you. Before we're joined by 879 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 1: Bill's defensive tackle Tim Settle, fresh off the field from practice. 880 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 1: But between now and then, it's your phone calls. Here 881 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: on One Bill Live presented by Collida Health. It's Buffalo 882 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Please is One Bills Live presented by Callida Health. 883 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: Here we are our number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, 884 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. One Bills Live is the show. 885 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 1: And in just a little bit we'll have Bill's defensive 886 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: tackle Tim Settle joining us fresh off the field, brought 887 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: to you by Austin Air. So we'll let you know 888 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 1: when Tim makes his way in here. But in the meantime, 889 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: we are discussing the trades, and we didn't even kind 890 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: of take a look at the landscape of the AFC. 891 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,879 Speaker 1: Now in the wake of all the trades that went down, 892 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 1: Steve the most notable of which took place in Buffalo's 893 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: own division, with the Dolphins acquiring Bradley Chubb, the pass rusher, 894 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,879 Speaker 1: from the Denver Broncos, in exchange for a first round 895 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: draft choice. The Dolphins now do not have a first 896 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: round pick. If I believe I'm correct on that they 897 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 1: acquired extra first round picks, and some of the trades 898 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: they had made in recent years, they have now sent 899 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,479 Speaker 1: all of those out. They have shipped them all out, 900 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: and they're putting all their eggs in the basket this year. 901 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 1: Are they Are they a better team with Bradley Chubs. 902 00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: Better players make you better. Bradley Chubb is a better player. 903 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 1: In fact, I think part of this move is to 904 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: is in response to, I don't know the lack of 905 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,760 Speaker 1: productivity that Jalen Phillips is. I don't think he's developed 906 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 1: as fast as they want to. I think they were 907 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: misusing him a little last year, and I've seen him 908 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: do some stuff athletically that are like well, eye popping, 909 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: but he isn't the dominant player that they want over there. 910 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: And maybe with some help on the other side, like 911 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: Bill's fans wanted Greg Russo to get somebody on the 912 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: other side of him, or greg or Jerry Hughes to 913 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: get Greg Russo on the other side of him, a 914 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: guy on each side of the defense, Bradley Chubb will 915 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: give that to a guy like Jalen Phillips and maybe 916 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: expand his role and elevate his play as well. So, yeah, 917 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: good players make you better. Better players make you better, 918 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: and Chubb is certainly an upgrade over the bottom of 919 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: their d line rotation in Miami. Absolutely, he's a good player. 920 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,439 Speaker 1: The problem that I think the Dolphins realized they had 921 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,760 Speaker 1: they have a good defense, but their pass rush was lacking. 922 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: They had only fifteen sacks through eight games, and it 923 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: just flat out wasn't good enough. And I think they 924 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: realized against the upper echelon of the AFC clubs they're 925 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: going to be doing battle with in the playoffs if 926 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: they get there. Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, you 927 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: better have a pass rush answer or provide consistent pass 928 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 1: rush pressure, or you're going to be in a track 929 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: meet where you don't have all the horses necessarily to 930 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: hang with them on every single series. So this is 931 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: a response to that. Yeah, I mean sacks per pass 932 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 1: attempt they're twenty fifth, they're tied for seventeenth and giving 933 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: up first downs per game. Their interception rate, they're twenty 934 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 1: fifth in the league. Yeah, so they'd love to get 935 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,240 Speaker 1: that down. Their ranked twenty fourth and third down allowed, 936 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: third down conversion allowed, their sixteenth and fourth down conversion allowed, 937 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, their middle of the road or a little 938 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: bit less in most to these red zone. They're twenty eight. 939 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 1: So and I think that where they got this trade 940 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 1: tells you where they think their problem is. Part and 941 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,439 Speaker 1: part of the reason those numbers are what they are 942 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 1: is because their defensive coordinator, Josh Borrior, has had to 943 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: call a lot more blitzes than probably he would like, 944 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: and in turn, he's getting victimized on the back end 945 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: if that blitz doesn't get there because he's down men 946 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: on the back end because he's sending him at the passer. 947 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: One issue with this is Chubb's contracts up at the 948 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,240 Speaker 1: end of this year. They gotta yeah, they gotta extend 949 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: him or lose him. So Chubb, I'll say this, he's 950 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,959 Speaker 1: got a crowbar of a leather lever. If he doesn't 951 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: want to sign a deal, he's gonna hit the market 952 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: or he's gonna get franchised. Yeah, so you just gave 953 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 1: up a one for that get that's right, you gotta 954 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: get it. You gotta sign. I can't give up a 955 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 1: one for a rental, that's right. You can't give up 956 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 1: a one for eight game, ten games. So Chubb has 957 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: got an enormous lever he can use against the Dolphins, 958 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: and they may I mean, he may end up, you know, 959 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: putting their salary cap out of whack, which makes it 960 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: hard for them to build a roster. So it'll be 961 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: interesting to see how they do it. That's one problem 962 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,439 Speaker 1: the Dolphins have inherited now. Certainly they are probably right 963 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: now talking to his representation trying to iron out a deal. 964 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: But man, old man, you're talking about you know, a 965 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: guy that could be in the position he's playing, looking 966 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: at getting nineteen million a year, that's a chunk, might 967 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 1: be even more than that, and it might be more 968 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: than that. And to my knowledge, the Dolphins don't have 969 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: a ton of money to spend in twenty twenty three. 970 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to try to take a quick cursory look 971 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: at it to see what their situation is. Because Tyreek, 972 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: by himself is thirty one point two to Ron Armstead, 973 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: the left tackle is twenty point four Byron Jones, the 974 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: corner who's always hurt eighteen point eight. Emmanuel Ogba, who 975 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,800 Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb is replacing in the lineup seventeen point three, 976 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 1: and he's a twenty one million dollars dead cap hit 977 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: next year if they cut him. Yeah, I'm telling you 978 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: right now, Steve, all the eggs are in the basket 979 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: this year for the Dolphins. They are doing exactly what 980 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean does not want to do. Brandon Bean wants 981 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 1: to perennially contend year over year and consistently take swings 982 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl. The Dolphins see an opportunity here 983 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: at five and three, and they just put all they 984 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: just put all their chips in the middle of the table, 985 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: acquiring Bradley Chubb and parting with their last remaining first 986 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: round pick next year. And they have a world of 987 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: money problems next year with big fat contracts. Yeah they're 988 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: talking about. I mean, and they've got if they get 989 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 1: rid of Xavier Howard next year, he's only a ten 990 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: million dollars cap hit on the roster, the dead cap hit. 991 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: His thirty three million dollars right, who's doing this? Wilcomes 992 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:09,320 Speaker 1: is ten million dead, Jerome Baker's eight million, Emmanuel Auguma's 993 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,800 Speaker 1: twenty one million, fourteen million for Bryran Jones, Tarin Armers 994 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: did twenty six million. Of course, Tyreek Hill if they 995 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: cut him next year, they won't do that forty six 996 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,879 Speaker 1: million in dead cap. They're not going to. But they 997 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,839 Speaker 1: got a ton of money tied up in about ten 998 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 1: guys and the rest. You know, they're gonna have to 999 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 1: do the best they can around that. And let's not 1000 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: forget this Steve who's three years in and looking for 1001 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 1: a new deal. I would be there quarterback to a 1002 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 1: tongue of ioloa. So what are you doing? How are 1003 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: you going to navigate all that with an with a 1004 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 1: pass rusher looking for a big second contract and a 1005 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: quarterback looking for a big second contract. Best of luck 1006 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: man who's gonna be making a million dollars one million 1007 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 1: dollars next year if he if he sees that contract, 1008 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: you think that's I mean, they'll they'll load up his bonut. 1009 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: You're saying base salary is salary, signing bonus. Hits a 1010 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: four minute point eight million dollars cap hit gets a 1011 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,959 Speaker 1: roster bonus of three point seven, so may be making 1012 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,280 Speaker 1: in cash that he gets probably around for eight almost 1013 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,800 Speaker 1: five million bucks. So it's not bereft. But if you're 1014 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: representing to a Tonga Bloa and you've heard the rhetoric 1015 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: coming out of their head coach's mouth and having him 1016 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: play the way he has played, I mean they're they're 1017 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: very They're promoting him like they're trying to get him 1018 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: to win the Heisman Trophy. His representation has got to 1019 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: be banging on the door right now, right now, even 1020 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: if they're doing their job they are. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, 1021 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Yeah, this trade with Chubb is gonna be 1022 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: an issue coming up to see how they handle it, 1023 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: because there's no easy answer. There is no easy ad, 1024 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a ton of egg on your 1025 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: face if you let him walk out the door and 1026 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: play somewhere else next year because you don't have the 1027 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 1: fiscal responsibility to keep him long term after giving up 1028 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 1: a first round draft choice. Yeah, and I'll say to this, 1029 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: the way the site I'm looking at, how does not 1030 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: have Chub on this roster. So yeah, you know, so 1031 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: you got to kind of wait and see how that works. 1032 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: But they got some issues and I don't know if 1033 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be on the football side of it. They're 1034 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: better off with Chub in their building than without no 1035 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: question about it, that first round draft pick didn't helping 1036 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 1: anybody until you actually even know who's available, and if 1037 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: you pick the right guy and get him through training 1038 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: and all that. So Chub makes you better right now 1039 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: and going forward, you've got a guy that's been proven 1040 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: in the league. So that's all well and good. The 1041 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,479 Speaker 1: contract stuff is really the only thing they gotta gotta 1042 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 1: figure out, and if if Steven Ross has the deep 1043 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: enough pockets, they can work it out. Much like the Bills, 1044 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 1: the Dolphins also added a running back. They traded away 1045 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds, who really was proving to not be a 1046 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 1: very good fit in their offensive scheme, and acquired a 1047 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 1: running back who's already operated and functioned and been productive 1048 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 1: in this kind of a scheme. As we know, Mike 1049 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: McDaniel comes off the Kyle Shanahan coaching tree. He runs 1050 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 1: the same general run scheme in Miami. So he makes 1051 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: a trade with the forty nine ers to get Jeff Wilson, 1052 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 1: the running back who now is riding the bench after 1053 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers acquired Christian McCaffrey. So a guy 1054 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: that's no longer of use to the forty nine ers 1055 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: goes to the Dolphins, where he figures at worst to 1056 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: be the number two guy behind Raheem Mostard, his former 1057 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: teammate in San Francisco. Yeah, a lot of speed there 1058 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 1: in the backfield now for the Dolphins. Yeah, so speed 1059 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: at wide out speed, at running back speed speed, and 1060 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 1: more speed. I'll tell you what That's what the Bills 1061 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 1: did too, getting Nihiem Hines in the fold. That guy 1062 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 1: can scoot, really scoot. You put him on the field 1063 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 1: with you know, James Cook, with Isaiah McKenzie, and all 1064 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you got some guys that can really 1065 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: go and the you got some home run hitters out there. 1066 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how those how those 1067 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 1: guys are deployed and what Hines can do right away. 1068 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Certainly you can plug him in and he can return 1069 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: kicks Sunday if they so desire, and certainly now getting 1070 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 1: him today, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Yeah, he can play as 1071 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: much as you want him to play on Sunday. I 1072 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 1: mean he came off He's in the middle of his 1073 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 1: own season. I mean it's not like he just came 1074 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: off the shelf. It's not like Tradevious White who hasn't 1075 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 1: played in a in a year. This is different. Naheim Hines. 1076 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Could you can take his men, You could have a 1077 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: package of plays for him. I mean, at the very least, Yeah, 1078 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 1: the expectations very high. When you come into a team, 1079 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: you gotta get you gotta get up and run and quick. 1080 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,919 Speaker 1: Hines will do that. They'll help him. They certainly won't 1081 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 1: have high high expectations for him, but if need be, yeah, 1082 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,439 Speaker 1: he'll be. He'll be in there, no question about He'll 1083 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 1: be ready to go. Just a couple of other notes 1084 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 1: from some of Brandon Bean's comments were somewhat interesting in 1085 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: terms of how it pertains to the Bills, not just 1086 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: in the here and now, but going forward. He did 1087 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 1: mention that Ike Butcher, who has been on pup the 1088 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 1: whole season because of the achilles injury that he suffered 1089 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 1: in Week sixteen last year, resigned with the club in 1090 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: the off season but was designated to pup. Brandon basically 1091 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: said he believes he has a chance to come back 1092 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: late in the season, and Achilles injury is typically about 1093 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 1: a year, and as we said, he suffered that injury 1094 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 1: in Week sixteen at New England. That's when Ryan Bates 1095 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 1: stepped into the lineup for Buffalo at guard and parlayed 1096 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 1: that into a starting role this year for pretty good 1097 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: money after the Chicago Bears signed him to an offer 1098 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: sheet and the Bills matched it. But we've seen Ike 1099 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: Butcker a lot over in the athletic training center working 1100 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 1: really hard to kind of get that achilles right again, 1101 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 1: and he would be some nice depth if in fact 1102 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 1: he can get back and add himself to the roster. Yeah, 1103 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 1: he had he had a setback. Yeah, in the summer, 1104 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: in April or in the spring, he had a surgery redone. 1105 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 1: The first surgery did not take, so he kind of 1106 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 1: got set back about four months by the injury. Had 1107 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 1: a had it redone. He says, now he feels good. 1108 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 1: It's really feeling better and better, and obviously he's really 1109 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 1: optimistic about his ability to come back and play. Being 1110 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 1: also addressed Odell Beckham Junior and all the talks surrounding him, 1111 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 1: not only with the Rams and other teams across the league, 1112 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: but the Bills as well, and being said the following, 1113 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 1: he's a heck of a player. If we think he 1114 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: can help this team, we'd be crazy not to look 1115 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 1: into it. Obviously a lot of things would have to 1116 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 1: line up, like financials and such. So the door is 1117 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: open to at least entertain the thought of adding Odell 1118 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 1: Beckham Junior. I think the biggest question there is when 1119 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: is he fully healthy? When's he able to pass a physical, 1120 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 1: knowing he just had acl surgery in late February. Yes, 1121 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 1: if you can get Odell healthy and proven to be 1122 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: healthy and come out and say, okay, Odell Beckham NFL, 1123 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior is now ready to play. He is 1124 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: one hundred percent well a guy of his talent and credentials, 1125 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 1: it's up to him. Well, yeah, he's the voice. He can. 1126 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 1: He'll virtually pick where he wants to play for the 1127 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 1: remainder of the year. He'll sign a one year deal 1128 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: pro rated for the end of the season, He'll play 1129 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 1: for a few hundred grand nothing and in case an 1130 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: in an effort to showcase himself to hit the free 1131 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 1: agency market as a healthy player this next offseason. And 1132 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, so that's what he'll get out of it. 1133 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 1: He'll want some place to showcase his talents to get 1134 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: ready to sign a big, long term deal with some 1135 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 1: team anywhere. The interesting thing on that is some of 1136 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 1: the more recent news we've heard on the Odell Beckham 1137 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 1: junior front is he's looking for a multi year contract 1138 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to keep hopping around after going 1139 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: from the brant while he talked his way out of 1140 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,240 Speaker 1: the Browns to go to the Rams. But you know, 1141 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 1: playing for two different teams in each of the last 1142 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 1: two years, he doesn't want to be a one year rental. Again, 1143 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 1: he's supposedly looking for a two year contract at the 1144 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: very least. I just don't know how many teams are 1145 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 1: willing to take on that kind of a risk, knowing 1146 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,560 Speaker 1: he's a guy that has two ACL knee injuries to 1147 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,720 Speaker 1: the same knee in a span of about twenty months. 1148 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,000 Speaker 1: So he may have to settle for a one year 1149 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: contract and hope he can stay healthy parlay that into 1150 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 1: a bigger deal next offseason. As you suggested, it's all 1151 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 1: well and good to want some long term security, but 1152 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: your injury history doesn't help you in that regard. And 1153 01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 1: it may be if it's a two year deal, this 1154 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: year counts true, so it's really a one year and 1155 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 1: a three if he comes back and say place for 1156 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, it's really a one year, four game 1157 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 1: plus the playoff kind of deal. You can get your 1158 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: mind around that. The one last thing that Brandon being 1159 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 1: mentioned was he was asked about Tradevious White's rehab his 1160 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 1: plan going forward. Again, the common refrain from the Bills 1161 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 1: has been they're going to just continue to take a 1162 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 1: day by day to on ramp him until he's game ready, 1163 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 1: and then even then they'll probably ease him into the 1164 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,720 Speaker 1: game setting and not just throw him out there for 1165 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 1: sixty five snaps in a game. The one thing that 1166 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 1: I was encouraged by was Brandon being said, I have 1167 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: seen a lot of players rehab from ACL injuries. I 1168 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 1: don't want to say Trey White's rehab was the best, 1169 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 1: but I haven't seen better. I am real proud of him. 1170 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 1: You and I said said something to me. I mean, 1171 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: we've been seeing him work over here like a dog. 1172 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just a guy. We're just guys. We 1173 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 1: see him, but we see him all the time. We 1174 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 1: chit chat with him once in a while and say, hey, 1175 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 1: how are you doing good? You know, and we don't 1176 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,840 Speaker 1: even talk about his knee because, I mean, the guys 1177 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 1: sitting there, he looks like a million bucks. Even today 1178 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 1: he was out there taking reps and he just he 1179 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 1: could tell. There's some stuff on social media reminding you 1180 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 1: of the kind of guy he was. Great personality on 1181 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: the football field, obviously a great player, a lot of energy, 1182 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 1: and he looks like that to me. Out on the 1183 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 1: practice field. He looks like the same guy, absolutely the 1184 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 1: same guy. High five and guys jumping around, dance around, practicing, 1185 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: just happy to be out there, real joy. You know, 1186 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 1: that's a great guy to get back. And you and 1187 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 1: I have been watching him. We say this all the time. 1188 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,920 Speaker 1: We have been watching him for months, months, and I 1189 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 1: mean every time you see him, Brownie, Am I right? 1190 01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,920 Speaker 1: He is like full lather, sweated up. Oh yeah. But 1191 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 1: the other thing completely the working hard. The other thing too, though, 1192 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 1: is I think he's always been like a lean framed athlete, 1193 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 1: not a lot of musculature on his frame. He's just 1194 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 1: he's wiry, you know what I mean. This rehab, he 1195 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 1: is rocked up now, like I have never seen this 1196 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 1: much muscle on his frame before. And it's because all 1197 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: this guy's doing is training his tail off, and there's 1198 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: more muscle on that frame now than I have ever 1199 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 1: remembered seeing before. Because it's really the only thing he 1200 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,400 Speaker 1: can do right now, or has done for the past 1201 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 1: seven or eight months. Train, train, train, train, train, and 1202 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 1: train some more. And I mean he's an Adonis now. Yeah. 1203 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: Well he's always you know, he's always been a pro. 1204 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: He's playing corner in the NFL. So he looks looks 1205 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,480 Speaker 1: the part as always he always has. You're right, he 1206 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,920 Speaker 1: just looks just ready you know, and I know mentally 1207 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 1: you'll never know. You can't get inside another guy's mind, 1208 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 1: but you just gotta know that he wants to come 1209 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 1: back and play really well for these guys sitting there 1210 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: watching them and seeing them have the success they are, 1211 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 1: knowing you want to be a part of it. Good 1212 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 1: for him. And when we're finally at the looks like 1213 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 1: the cusp of seeing him back on the field in 1214 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 1: some capacity. Yeah, is it this week? We'll have to 1215 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,960 Speaker 1: wait and see. I would anticipate that coach McDermott will 1216 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,759 Speaker 1: probably make a determination on that probably sometime on Friday, 1217 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 1: and whether he lets the media know to you know, 1218 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 1: share with the fans publicly, remains to be seen. I mean, 1219 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's any strategic advantage per se 1220 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: that you would keep it under wraps, if you know 1221 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. So we'll see where we are. Two 1222 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 1: days from now, we'll probably have a clearer picture as 1223 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 1: to just what we might be looking at in terms 1224 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 1: of tradevious White back on a game field. We will 1225 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: take a break here because when we come back, fresh 1226 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: off the field will be Bill's defensive tackle, Tim Settle. 1227 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,799 Speaker 1: He'll join us next here on one Bill's Live, presented 1228 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:26,519 Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, 1229 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 1230 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 1: with you and joining us now on set in studio. 1231 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 1: Fresh off the Practice Field is defensive tackle Tim Settle. 1232 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,599 Speaker 1: Fresh off the Field Interviews brought to you by Austin Air, 1233 01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 1: the official clean air provider of the Buffalo Bills. Hey 1234 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 1: doing big, Tim, I'm doing excellent. Thank you for having Yeah. Yeah, 1235 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 1: So last week was the first week since Week one 1236 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 1: that all you boys up front were healthy and ready 1237 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 1: to roll. How did it feel to kind of have 1238 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: the whole band back together? It feels good, you know, 1239 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 1: Like you said, we've been dealing with nick and knocks, 1240 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,479 Speaker 1: injuries here and there, but you know this, everybody's mind 1241 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 1: set on standing focused and doing that one eleven. You know, Uh, 1242 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 1: I feel like we can hold that weight a little 1243 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 1: bit while the other guy gets healthy or you know, uh, 1244 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: we did it, We did it worthwhile, and now that 1245 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 1: we're all back to it's it's it's it's it's exciting 1246 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 1: to see what we're about to get it. Uh, see 1247 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 1: what we'll be able to do, you know with this front. Yeah, 1248 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 1: you guys got back. And it was weird game last 1249 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 1: week because you know, the Packers had two really good backs, uh, 1250 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 1: and they ran the ball against you guys, and that 1251 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: was their plan. And it was really weird because none 1252 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 1: of even Bills fans, I don't know about you guys, 1253 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 1: we didn't care because if they were gonna do that, 1254 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,639 Speaker 1: they ran out of they were gonna run out of time, 1255 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 1: and they kind of strangled themselves with that philosophy. Yeah. Uh, 1256 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 1: I feel like we got in one dimensional early, you know, 1257 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,679 Speaker 1: just getting out there Aaron, you know, during the passing stuff, 1258 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 1: and you know, coming out of high time. I feel 1259 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 1: like that, you know, the only thing they felt like 1260 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 1: they could do to get things going was to try 1261 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 1: to run a ball again. You know, they hit us 1262 01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:59,760 Speaker 1: here and there, but you know that's just something that 1263 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,640 Speaker 1: we can regroup better defense and fixed here and there. 1264 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: It was certain things that you know that they gave 1265 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 1: us that we weren't really familiar with. So you know, 1266 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,600 Speaker 1: that's just a little adjustments and get back to it. 1267 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 1: You know, we didn't like you know that they ran 1268 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 1: for what they ran, but you know that's just another 1269 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 1: thing for us to sharpening up. Yeah, but I know 1270 01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 1: your coach is always say we don't care about yards, 1271 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: we care about points. But to that point that you 1272 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: just made, what is Coach Frasier like on the sidelines 1273 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 1: in between series when those adjustments have to be made. 1274 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,879 Speaker 1: Just maybe give us a sense that as to his demeanor, 1275 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 1: what he's like, the messaging he's giving you guys. He's 1276 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 1: really good with communicating with Coach Washington, so you know 1277 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 1: they might talk before they bring us up, so they'll 1278 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 1: communicate something and they'll get they'll get something going and 1279 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,640 Speaker 1: they're related to us and everything that we go over. 1280 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,000 Speaker 1: You know, we might not have everything up in our playbook, 1281 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 1: but it's easy to bring something out because we all 1282 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 1: know everything. But this we always do it too. You know, 1283 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 1: if we see something they might bring us together. We're 1284 01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: gonna do this on this, We're gonna do this and that. 1285 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 1: In game adjustments. Coach Frasier is excellent. You know, he's 1286 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 1: real vocal, he's real straight to the point on what 1287 01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,680 Speaker 1: he wants. Because he's really good too about picking your 1288 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,320 Speaker 1: guys brain because you're the guys that are out there. 1289 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,880 Speaker 1: You're you're seeing stuff. So if there's something that you see, 1290 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 1: I gotta imagine He's more than willing to take it, 1291 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,800 Speaker 1: like what a what are you seeing? Tell me? So 1292 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,920 Speaker 1: then I can make a better adjustment based on what 1293 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 1: you're seeing. Right, And especially with the older guys like 1294 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: DQ and feel you know, when you get to a 1295 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 1: certain uh year in football, you know the blocks that 1296 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,559 Speaker 1: you get, you kind of you know what you get 1297 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 1: in you feel different things and you know the blocks. 1298 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 1: You can feel a block and you can kind of 1299 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 1: like adjust off of it. So you know, DQ might 1300 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,600 Speaker 1: come off from like, all right, he's doing this on this. 1301 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,280 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like if he stays doing this, 1302 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,000 Speaker 1: I could do this. And he related and you know 1303 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 1: it's not in no gray area. You know, he explains it. 1304 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: He explains it. Uh, they get the details of it, 1305 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,880 Speaker 1: and then we find some way and we execute it. 1306 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,439 Speaker 1: And DQ is day Quin just so everybody knows. Everybody knows. 1307 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 1: You guys got to clarify that. So, got the Jets 1308 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,679 Speaker 1: coming up. You guys have already you know, been presented 1309 01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 1: the game playing and stuff. What you know, they've got 1310 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 1: an offensive line, they got a team that's got some expectations, uh, 1311 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 1: and they've kind of lived up to them and now 1312 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 1: it kind of exceeded them almost at this point of 1313 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 1: the year, they're playing better than people gave them credit 1314 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 1: for being able to what's the game plan? What are 1315 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 1: the thoughts? You know, they give us a general sense 1316 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 1: of the Jet game coming. Yeah. Um, you know, you 1317 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 1: know they're a hot team this year. You know, Uh, 1318 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 1: they definitely had a little run you know, um, and 1319 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,120 Speaker 1: we know that, uh that they're they're definitely looking forward 1320 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,720 Speaker 1: to playing us. And you know, the last couple of games, 1321 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,320 Speaker 1: they they've been able to establish a run game, you know, uh, 1322 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,560 Speaker 1: averaging one hundred forty plus and you know, uh, we 1323 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,719 Speaker 1: gotta definitely be good on having that sound and keeping 1324 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 1: that to a minimum. And you know, uh, we know 1325 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 1: that they have a young quarterback and you know we're 1326 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna try to utilize that as well. You know, we're 1327 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,880 Speaker 1: just gonna continue to play sound defense. You know, uh, 1328 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,920 Speaker 1: stuff they're running, you can just get out to this 1329 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,640 Speaker 1: this young quarterback. Now, I was gonna say, they just 1330 01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 1: put together, you know, a little four four game win 1331 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,240 Speaker 1: street going to the Steelers, Dolphins, Packers, Broncos. They've been 1332 01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 1: playing some really good football. What has been the engine 1333 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 1: that kind of drives them? From your perspective, you know, 1334 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,479 Speaker 1: from our perspective just watching it. You know, Uh, their 1335 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,680 Speaker 1: defense has been really sound for him. You know, their 1336 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,960 Speaker 1: defense has definitely been leading them as a as a unit, 1337 01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, and their offense kind of feeds off of it. 1338 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,479 Speaker 1: You know, they put their offense in good situations too. 1339 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 1: It's not hard to not execute. So you know this, 1340 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, Uh, and we understand that they have a good, 1341 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,760 Speaker 1: solid defense from front to the backers to the secondary. 1342 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,120 Speaker 1: You know, everybody, everybody's good. You know, we just got 1343 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 1: to play our ball and and it's and you know, 1344 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,560 Speaker 1: better teams going within be the better defense. UM. On 1345 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 1: a much lighter subject, Josh Allen gave an interview recently 1346 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,879 Speaker 1: and I need your corroboration on this. Being a college 1347 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:52,880 Speaker 1: and pro teammate now of Tremaine Edmonds, Josh was asked 1348 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,680 Speaker 1: who is the best singer in the locker room and 1349 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,120 Speaker 1: he said, Tremaine Edmonds. Can you corroborate this? And is 1350 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,560 Speaker 1: it factual in nature? Because we saw Tremaine in the 1351 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 1: hallway and he played dump like he didn't know. Is 1352 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 1: there is there any validity to answer by Josh Allen? 1353 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,840 Speaker 1: It's crazy. Uh. I can go back a little further 1354 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 1: with Tremaine. But you know, um, they all of their 1355 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,640 Speaker 1: brothers can sing, every one of them really. Yeah, so 1356 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, don't don't let they've all got play, all 1357 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 1: can sing. You know they grew up in the church too, 1358 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,719 Speaker 1: so yeah right right. But I remember going in college 1359 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,880 Speaker 1: our freshman sophomore year. You know, his mom and I 1360 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 1: used to come up for the game and they and 1361 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,400 Speaker 1: we used to sing Happy Birthday too, his mom and 1362 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 1: and Tremaine will lead it all. And so you got 1363 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 1: you got pipes too, I could sing. I'll do my 1364 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,840 Speaker 1: own singing about Yeah, I think Tremaine could sing a 1365 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,680 Speaker 1: little better than me. But you know, he definitely got 1366 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,760 Speaker 1: he definitely got vocals. He definitely can sing, you know. 1367 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,920 Speaker 1: Uh he he might have a little more range than you. Yeah, 1368 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,479 Speaker 1: I main definitely can sing. He might. Man, he's kept 1369 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,040 Speaker 1: that under wraps here for a while. Yeah wow, I've 1370 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,560 Speaker 1: heard him singing plenty of time. So you were just 1371 01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 1: telling us before we went on the air. Here you're 1372 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 1: getting your basement done, hear in Buffalo to make your 1373 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 1: music studio kind of you know, your side hustle. Yeah. Um, 1374 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 1: it's like Maine, a guy you'd pull down there and say, hey, 1375 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 1: give me some bars, like know, whoever wants to come 1376 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,080 Speaker 1: down there. You know, you know the studio is you 1377 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,120 Speaker 1: gotta get comforting the studio, so you know, I remember 1378 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 1: when I first started, it was during COVID. You know, 1379 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,519 Speaker 1: you gotta this, you gotta It's it's hard at first, 1380 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 1: specially when you don't know what you're doing, but it's 1381 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 1: the repetition of this going to a real studio and 1382 01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,439 Speaker 1: then being able to do something you're your own. I'm 1383 01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,679 Speaker 1: not perfect in there, but I know how to do everything, 1384 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,560 Speaker 1: and if anything, I can send something off and have 1385 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,080 Speaker 1: somebody editor by. My goal is to get at least, 1386 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, if not half the team, a good a 1387 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,840 Speaker 1: good percentage in there. At least, you know, get get 1388 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 1: you in your car, out your cover zone. You know, 1389 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,160 Speaker 1: try to do something. You don't gotta be nothing that 1390 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 1: you don't gotta post a song or anything. Just getting there, 1391 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,400 Speaker 1: enjoy yourself. I don't know if you'll have to invite Isaiah, 1392 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,680 Speaker 1: he'll probably be there knocking anybody. He doesn't wait for 1393 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 1: an invitation. Bring anybody. Anybody is welcome, Bring a cop, 1394 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 1: anybody is welcome. I know, uh, big dog, I know 1395 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 1: the dog one getting here with me? Man, it's another 1396 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:06,719 Speaker 1: guy that's not shock gonna get in there. So good stuff. 1397 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 1: And by the way, congratulations first sack this last week. 1398 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,360 Speaker 1: Is there something. It's one thing to you know, to 1399 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 1: sack you know, a quarterback Davis Mills. It's another thing 1400 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 1: sack Aaron Rodgers. Right, yeah, you guys, that's like a 1401 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,200 Speaker 1: not you put on your bed post. Well, it's crazy 1402 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,000 Speaker 1: because it was funny because you know, my first NFL 1403 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 1: SAC was Tom and I was in Washington and then 1404 01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy, my first sack as the bill 1405 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,479 Speaker 1: was Aaron. So it's like, I think shacks for sack 1406 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 1: is Brady if I remember right now, I think his 1407 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 1: first career sax Bro. He got to play him twice 1408 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,680 Speaker 1: a year. So but but you know, it's it's it's 1409 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 1: an amazing feeling, you know. Uh, it just I feel 1410 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,839 Speaker 1: like this, you know, just being on a stack defense 1411 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 1: like this. You know, it's it's it's really hard to 1412 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 1: make plays, right, you know, you gotta we gotta Yeah, 1413 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 1: you got a lot of guys flying around, you got 1414 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,240 Speaker 1: a lot of guys pursuing, you got a lot of 1415 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,560 Speaker 1: guys just getting to the ball, and you know, like 1416 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,160 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta eat a little greedy, you know, 1417 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,160 Speaker 1: doing your one eleven. But you know what I'm saying, 1418 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,599 Speaker 1: if you can like like you gotta get really get 1419 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,720 Speaker 1: your sack was pretty good too. They had a hard plate. 1420 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,400 Speaker 1: They've been running the football and they had a hard 1421 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,519 Speaker 1: play fake across your face. You saw the ball handling, 1422 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 1: took a half a step false, and then they had 1423 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,800 Speaker 1: no shot. Yeah, you got right by the guard. You 1424 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 1: swam him inside or outside the guard as he tried 1425 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,200 Speaker 1: to come down on you. It's a really nice place. 1426 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,360 Speaker 1: There's like four things happened in like a half second. 1427 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 1: It's it's crazy because I you know, I was emphasizing 1428 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,400 Speaker 1: my hands all weekend, you know, just Coach, he's been 1429 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,360 Speaker 1: helping me, you know, just having me come over there 1430 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 1: and pulling me to the side, you know. And you know, 1431 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,439 Speaker 1: I've been working on my reeds real well, and I've 1432 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,320 Speaker 1: seen that there was running a GC. They pulled the 1433 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 1: guard and center out and usually when they run that 1434 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,920 Speaker 1: that guard, that backside guard is way more flatter. And 1435 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,640 Speaker 1: I felt him like kind of running to me and 1436 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 1: then feel right, So I ended up like popping it. 1437 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,880 Speaker 1: And then it just I thought I was trying to 1438 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 1: backdoor and I was going to the running back in 1439 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,040 Speaker 1: the Aaron was right there, so you know, just keeping 1440 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,840 Speaker 1: it tight. You know, that's what happens when you know, 1441 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,840 Speaker 1: you get vertical on penetrating defense. You know, things like 1442 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,960 Speaker 1: that can happen. But you know, uh, it was about 1443 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:03,680 Speaker 1: to happen. You know, the plays plays is there to 1444 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 1: be getting mad. You just gotta make them all right, man, Well, look, 1445 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,040 Speaker 1: keep making keep on making them because we like watching them. 1446 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 1: We like seeing the old wattle out there doing the 1447 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,200 Speaker 1: doing the penguin. Penguins wattle, That's what I meant. But yeah, 1448 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 1: doing the penguin. I got you, uh, Tim Saddle joining 1449 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,639 Speaker 1: us here in the studio. Tim, thanks for time, Thank 1450 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,759 Speaker 1: you so much. Stay healthy, okay, and keep being productive 1451 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 1: out there. We will take a break, or actually we're 1452 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:27,800 Speaker 1: not gonna take a break. We're gonna go to the 1453 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 1: podium because, as we understand it, Trudevious White is addressing 1454 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,080 Speaker 1: the media for the first time since he is back 1455 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 1: on the roster. So let's go there now. Oh you 1456 01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,960 Speaker 1: see my team. He's pretty good, right, But h man, 1457 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 1: it's been it's been fun watching those guys. Man, those guys, 1458 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not surprised. So you know, coachmind me 1459 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,880 Speaker 1: and those guy do a great job of skining guys 1460 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,400 Speaker 1: in is buying into scheme and buying into your way 1461 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,479 Speaker 1: that we do things, and it just makes you know, 1462 01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,800 Speaker 1: land one the guy goes down, the next guy up, 1463 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, knows what to do with no jop off. 1464 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 1: Where's your confidence? Logal one the leg right now and 1465 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,599 Speaker 1: you're off. They're doing the work. You come on a card. 1466 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,240 Speaker 1: Do you have confidence? But you can do what you 1467 01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,240 Speaker 1: need to day. Uh, I'm just taking it the day 1468 01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,760 Speaker 1: at a time. I think that with that approach, I 1469 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,680 Speaker 1: think that then this when I get back out there, 1470 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the right time in my day's gonna 1471 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 1: be right on something. If I got this. So I 1472 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 1: haven't talk about day at the time. Just what's it 1473 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 1: been like being back out there. It's fun, you know, 1474 01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,240 Speaker 1: anytime I have to get out there with my teammates 1475 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,120 Speaker 1: and do something that I haven't done for a long time. Um, 1476 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 1: it's it's fun. But I know that, you know, it's 1477 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,840 Speaker 1: it's the process. It's a thing about great process that 1478 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,559 Speaker 1: I'm going through and uh, I know that it's gonna 1479 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,400 Speaker 1: do it. It's still the process to go and I'm 1480 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna taking the day at the time and continue 1481 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 1: to take you through health. You know, like I've been 1482 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 1: doing obvious like your patience prey and obviously touched your patience, 1483 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 1: but there's your health. Knowing that there are potentially some 1484 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 1: big things to be helping for. Oh, I mean, yeah, 1485 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,920 Speaker 1: you know you gotta you gotta think about that too. 1486 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,559 Speaker 1: But you know, like like you gotta say, we got 1487 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,080 Speaker 1: a great team. Those guys been doing a great job. Um, 1488 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,679 Speaker 1: you know, limited big plays and taking the ball away. 1489 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 1: So um, I mean, you guys haven't noticed. I haven't 1490 01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 1: been out there, so that's a good thing. What have 1491 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,960 Speaker 1: you done to help hi year in the christ Chailer 1492 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,639 Speaker 1: while you hurt, weren't played, especially the off season many 1493 01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 1: years you weren't going to be ready. Oh yeah, I 1494 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 1: mean I kind of I met Kyell doing the preaching 1495 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,840 Speaker 1: process where you can't say I kind of we had 1496 01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,519 Speaker 1: exchanged someone's game. I can't kind of kept Kevin contact 1497 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,479 Speaker 1: with him. Um and my old dB head coach in college. 1498 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's at Florida now and so he was 1499 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,120 Speaker 1: trying to give me to try to do Kaye State. 1500 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 1: But once I look at a couple of games, called 1501 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 1: my coach back, and I said, a coach, I don't 1502 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 1: know what I can tell you. So and Christian he's black, 1503 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, quiet, do all the things the right way. Man. 1504 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 1: Those guys are great there ahead of learn curve or 1505 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:41,639 Speaker 1: where I was when I was a rookie. Those guys 1506 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,759 Speaker 1: know the playbook, ext and extra, a lot of good questions, 1507 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,080 Speaker 1: very complex guys. So I think that, you know, those 1508 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:54,680 Speaker 1: guys have a great future. Emotional portion, I mean, you know, 1509 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,640 Speaker 1: it's very emotional. Like I said, I mean, it's my 1510 01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 1: first time I've ever gone through anything like that since 1511 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 1: I was probably like six or seven years old. He's 1512 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 1: being football, basketball, track, football, basketball, track, football, basketball, track 1513 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,640 Speaker 1: foot so the last what twenty twenty years, So this 1514 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,600 Speaker 1: is my first time I had to sit down. But 1515 01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,720 Speaker 1: it just gave me a different perspective. Man. Uh what wait. 1516 01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,760 Speaker 1: I just noticed, like I got more to give the 1517 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,599 Speaker 1: people than not gonna pass down or intersept of the ball. 1518 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,439 Speaker 1: So it's just it was the first time in my 1519 01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:25,320 Speaker 1: life I sat down. It's like Davious White, what else 1520 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,000 Speaker 1: can I offer the people? I know, I'm bigger than 1521 01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,000 Speaker 1: just you know, a football game or it's just not 1522 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 1: gonna pass down. So it's just you know, I started reading, 1523 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,400 Speaker 1: started get into a different space, you know what I mean, 1524 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,479 Speaker 1: just learned about myself, learning about you know, what's my 1525 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,680 Speaker 1: purpose here on earth other than playing playing a football game. 1526 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 1: So I mean it just put me in a different space, 1527 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 1: like a you know, straight on running, it's necessarily an issue. 1528 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,240 Speaker 1: It's the lateral stuff side to side, which is so 1529 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,920 Speaker 1: difficult for a cornerback. Um, how where are you in 1530 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 1: that process? How does it feel when you're having to 1531 01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 1: make those types of cutches movie? I mean, it's feel 1532 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,519 Speaker 1: it's feels feel natural. It feel natural. Like I said, 1533 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 1: I've been taking that day at a time. So it's 1534 01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,720 Speaker 1: been a process of getting to where I'm at now. 1535 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,240 Speaker 1: I got a ways to go, but I'm looking forward 1536 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 1: to it. It's such a process. What do you think 1537 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 1: it's been more challenging It been the physical or the mental. 1538 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of both. More definitely 1539 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,160 Speaker 1: more than physical, because you just gotta get that out 1540 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:19,599 Speaker 1: out there, you gotta get the movie and you gotta 1541 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,320 Speaker 1: work it out. You gotta basically had to build my 1542 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,120 Speaker 1: body back up from the ground up. So it's been 1543 01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,680 Speaker 1: it's been a challenge, and it's something that you know, 1544 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,920 Speaker 1: as a football player and as a guy that's been 1545 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, where I've been in my football careers. It 1546 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 1: was a different challenge and it's something that I woke 1547 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,519 Speaker 1: up every day read ready to kick his ass. Do 1548 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,040 Speaker 1: you think I did too? A lot of us you 1549 01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 1: look bigger at camp when we saw you, Like, do 1550 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,280 Speaker 1: you think that you even got stronger in your upper 1551 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,439 Speaker 1: body because you were, you know, rehabbing and spending time 1552 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,120 Speaker 1: and we're doing that. Uh yeah, I feel I got 1553 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 1: some Um I got a lot of a lot of 1554 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,640 Speaker 1: people saying, you know that I was. It looked a 1555 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,640 Speaker 1: little bigger, but uh, I mean it was all part 1556 01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,639 Speaker 1: of the process, all part of you know, my rehab 1557 01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 1: process of just redoing my body, just re redoing it 1558 01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:59,800 Speaker 1: from the ground up, like I said, And uh I'm 1559 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,160 Speaker 1: you're going. And it's been a process. Like I said, 1560 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 1: it's been fun every day. It's been. It's been tough 1561 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 1: times too. You know, I have my days where it's 1562 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,280 Speaker 1: just you know, it's kicking my ass, But I have 1563 01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,240 Speaker 1: more days where kicking kicking his ass. So you know 1564 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:21,840 Speaker 1: that's where it's it's just been a it's just been 1565 01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,439 Speaker 1: a process. You know, some days you wake up and 1566 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,120 Speaker 1: it's it's better than others. And uh, you know, I've 1567 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,720 Speaker 1: been very cautious with it, very just taking my time, 1568 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,160 Speaker 1: just make sure it's right. So I so I won't 1569 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 1: have any set back. So that's been most of the things. 1570 01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,559 Speaker 1: How much how much? How much do you? How confident 1571 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,280 Speaker 1: are you that you could return to feel legal level? 1572 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,120 Speaker 1: I think? You know, I mean, I I bushed my 1573 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,200 Speaker 1: ass doing this process. So once I come back and perform, well, 1574 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,960 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a surprise to me. Um. My 1575 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 1: teammates that's been around during the summer and you know, 1576 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,000 Speaker 1: during the offseason, they know. So you know, the people 1577 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,400 Speaker 1: that you know what I mean, that I care about 1578 01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,320 Speaker 1: and you know they care about me and just know 1579 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 1: the amount of working effort and blood and literally blood, 1580 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,400 Speaker 1: sweat and tears that I put into this rehab they know. 1581 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,160 Speaker 1: So um, coming back and performing where it won't be 1582 01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,200 Speaker 1: a surprised is that what motivated? I mean is you're 1583 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 1: competitive to begin with? Is that what fueled you? Just 1584 01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:21,439 Speaker 1: to show people like this isn't gonna hold you back? Um? 1585 01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,120 Speaker 1: I really was, you know, just you know, my I'm 1586 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 1: my own risk verst critic. So you know, it's just 1587 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,120 Speaker 1: it was just a testament of me just getting out 1588 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,000 Speaker 1: of a slump, because you know, the first first few 1589 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 1: months it was just it's very hard, very depressing time 1590 01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,000 Speaker 1: locked up in my basement. They had to come to 1591 01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 1: guys wanted for said, had to come dragging out of them. Brother. 1592 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,760 Speaker 1: So Um, the first few weeks, like I said, it 1593 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:50,000 Speaker 1: was tough. Um, I didn't a lot of uncertainty about it, 1594 01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,639 Speaker 1: just doing the research of where I want to do everything, 1595 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,320 Speaker 1: where I want to, you know, when I want to 1596 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,080 Speaker 1: go with this process. But I mean these the staff 1597 01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,800 Speaker 1: here and the people around here have been great. So no, 1598 01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:03,840 Speaker 1: I hadn't go. I didn't have to go do it 1599 01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,720 Speaker 1: a long alright. That's Tradeous White addressing the media for 1600 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:13,160 Speaker 1: the first time since he basically tore his acl last Thanksgiving. 1601 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,760 Speaker 1: He has not said a word. You've not seen hide 1602 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,680 Speaker 1: or hair of him since he has been added to 1603 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:22,280 Speaker 1: the active roster just yesterday. So he addressed the media 1604 01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,920 Speaker 1: coming off the practice field, and I think the biggest 1605 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 1: takeaway there, Steve, And we'll get into this when we 1606 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 1: come back. There are a lot of dark days for 1607 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:36,599 Speaker 1: guys that go through major knee rehabilitation or any other 1608 01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,920 Speaker 1: major injury for that matter, Achilles like Ike Bucker's going through. Now. 1609 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,400 Speaker 1: We will talk about what that is like when we 1610 01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:44,880 Speaker 1: come back here on One Bills Live presented by Kalaida Health. 1611 01:26:44,920 --> 01:27:03,040 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, So, Steve, when we 1612 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,000 Speaker 1: just left the show for break, we said there are 1613 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,000 Speaker 1: a lot of dark days in long rehabilitations for players. 1614 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Trey White just shed some light on that. What can 1615 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,600 Speaker 1: you say about guys that you know, teammates that you 1616 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,120 Speaker 1: know that went through those long rehabs and they're not 1617 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:21,320 Speaker 1: all the day. It's not a series of positive days 1618 01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,200 Speaker 1: over a series of months. There are some There are 1619 01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:25,960 Speaker 1: some dark days. He said it was in his basement 1620 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 1: the first two weeks. He wouldn't come out of his basement. 1621 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,559 Speaker 1: He was so depressed about the injury. The hard part 1622 01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,680 Speaker 1: is when you work, you begin to come back and 1623 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 1: you're not able to do anything at first, small, tiny, 1624 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,200 Speaker 1: You know, these guys are used to pushing big weights, 1625 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,479 Speaker 1: jumping and leaping and doing the vert box jumps and 1626 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:47,840 Speaker 1: all the stuff you see on social media where these 1627 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,919 Speaker 1: guys do videos of themselves doing tricks in the workout 1628 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,880 Speaker 1: room because they're so in shape, you're doing stuff that 1629 01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's just mind numbingly boring, you know, five 1630 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:04,720 Speaker 1: pound leg extensions, you know, stretching, just sitting there doing 1631 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,920 Speaker 1: this for hours on end, every day, day after day, 1632 01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,040 Speaker 1: and you never see any you know, tangible results. You're 1633 01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,080 Speaker 1: not getting better, you're not getting to be a better athlete, 1634 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,439 Speaker 1: You're just getting well. You're not even back to the 1635 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,880 Speaker 1: point where you could even start training to get better. 1636 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 1: It's just you feel like you fell so far down 1637 01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,960 Speaker 1: in the abyss you can't see the top. You know, 1638 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,240 Speaker 1: there's just no tomorrow that's bright enough for you, you know, 1639 01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,639 Speaker 1: so you just it's just so depressing. And these guys 1640 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,920 Speaker 1: go from the lead athletes to where you feel like 1641 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,720 Speaker 1: an invalid, and it's really really crushing emotionally to a 1642 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of them. It just takes days and days and 1643 01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,640 Speaker 1: days and weeks and weeks and weeks and months and 1644 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,559 Speaker 1: months to get back on top. So Trey White's finally 1645 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,800 Speaker 1: doing it, and you know, it's a pretty good day 1646 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:49,760 Speaker 1: when you can finally go out on the practice field 1647 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 1: and suit up with your guys. He still is pretty 1648 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,599 Speaker 1: mindful about taking his time, though he wants to come 1649 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,280 Speaker 1: back when he feels he is right and his Brandon 1650 01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,559 Speaker 1: being pointed out earlier today, they have to ramp him 1651 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,760 Speaker 1: because he didn't have a training camp to get in 1652 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,799 Speaker 1: quote unquote football shape. He's physically strong enough to play football, 1653 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,760 Speaker 1: but does he have the endurance to get through a game. 1654 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,000 Speaker 1: That is the next step for him, and it's not 1655 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,320 Speaker 1: as excruciating for the fans. Either team's very good, it's great, 1656 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,320 Speaker 1: and he's gonna make them better. Good players make you better. 1657 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 1: Great players make you better. But there's no rush to 1658 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,479 Speaker 1: get him back, and they're doing it the way it 1659 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,600 Speaker 1: should be done. It's up to Tredavius and how he 1660 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,320 Speaker 1: feels and when he's ready, not when the win loss 1661 01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,360 Speaker 1: record says it. Injury reports out Spencer Brown limited today. 1662 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,479 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds a new addition to injury report limited with 1663 01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,160 Speaker 1: a heel injury. We'll see you tomorrow at one