Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never skip arm day.
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal. At least that's true for one of
Speaker 1: the two of us, Nick shook in the building for
Speaker 1: the final time on a preseason Sunday night taping, getting
Speaker 1: it to your ears on a Monday morning. This was fun,
Speaker 1: this these three weeks together, Nick, But I'm ready for
Speaker 1: the real stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean it's always great to spend time talking football
Speaker 3: with you, Greg, of course, but I think we're both
Speaker 3: ready for the games to count and the games to matter,
Speaker 3: and for us to not have to dig down to
Speaker 3: the bottom third of the roster to clean some insights
Speaker 3: from these games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not a hot take, you know.
Speaker 1: Our boss's boss's bosses bosses boss's boss Roger Goodell agrees
Speaker 1: with us. I mean, he's been trying to get rid
Speaker 1: of this third preseason game and a broadcaster I was
Speaker 1: talking to this or texting with this week and said, yeah,
Speaker 1: there is literally no lower form of sports entertainment. Then
Speaker 1: I think the live third preseason game for most teams,
Speaker 1: and I say most, Nick, because not all. We just
Speaker 1: watched the Patriots and the Washington Commanders play on Sunday
Speaker 1: Night football and Washington didn't even play their backups. They
Speaker 1: were going straight to the third string. But we did
Speaker 1: get some spicy Drake made Jacoby Brissett quarterback battle. I'm
Speaker 1: not just leading with this because you know I grew
Speaker 1: up in Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: Sure is the most Sure because I feel like there's
Speaker 3: a little bit of Patriots background here.
Speaker 2: I'm just messing with you.
Speaker 1: First of all, it just happened. We've been kind of
Speaker 1: leading with the games that just happened, but this one,
Speaker 1: Come on, this was the most relevant I think game
Speaker 1: result anything that really happened in this preseason week. Because
Speaker 1: I've been banging this drum that the more the coaches talk,
Speaker 1: the more the practice reports come out, the more I
Speaker 1: think Drake May has a chance to start Week one.
Speaker 1: And then he comes out after Jacoby Brissett gets a
Speaker 1: shoulder injury. Brissett was only gonna to play one or
Speaker 1: two series anyways, but he gets pile drive because of
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman mishap, and I'll get to that in
Speaker 1: a bit. Drake May comes out there and he makes
Speaker 1: about three to four plays on a touchdown drive immediately
Speaker 1: that make you think, Wow, this is a kid that
Speaker 1: maybe needs to play right away. Let's listen to his
Speaker 1: touchdown throw football games.
Speaker 5: This is pro football pressure against out tackle Kevin Harris
Speaker 5: to the end zone and in to the touchdown. Kevin
Speaker 5: Harris made a man miss and the thirty year man
Speaker 5: at South Carolina takes it to.
Speaker 6: The in zone.
Speaker 5: A very nice drive executed by Drake May.
Speaker 4: That's right, Shoki.
Speaker 1: Eleven plays eighty eight yards and that touchdown throw might
Speaker 1: have looked simple relatively was simple, but yeah, the arm
Speaker 1: strength gets that ball there before the defender who was
Speaker 1: all over it, and he showed great arm strength Drake
Speaker 1: May throughout this game, and that's try In particular, I
Speaker 1: want to point out the scramble he has on third
Speaker 1: and fourteen to start the drive. It's just not a
Speaker 1: play that any Patriots quarterback has been able to make
Speaker 1: for a long time, and Jacoby Brissett would not make
Speaker 1: that play.
Speaker 4: It took great athleticism.
Speaker 1: And then two really nice crossers, one to Jalen Poke,
Speaker 1: one to di Mario Douglas, both which showed really good
Speaker 1: pocket feel, really beautiful passes that were kind of next
Speaker 1: level passes that combined with the touchdown and the two
Speaker 1: minute drive he ends up having at the end of
Speaker 1: the half in Girodmeo's comments not only during the week,
Speaker 1: but also on the sideline to Melissa Stark where he said,
Speaker 1: all right, Drake came in there and showed me something.
Speaker 1: He said, this is a competition. Now, Jacoby Brissett isn't
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I think he has a legit chance
Speaker 1: here and what we'll see in the next couple of
Speaker 1: days what Gerond Mayo does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit of a twist because we heard
Speaker 3: Alex Van Pelt talk about Joobe Brissett is basically the
Speaker 3: starter earlier this week, and obviously that's not the decision
Speaker 3: that falls on his shoulders, that falls in the head
Speaker 3: coach more than anything. But then Drake comes out and produces.
Speaker 3: And this is why you draft a young quarterback. It's
Speaker 3: not just because your franchise has no hope, but because
Speaker 3: you want the young horse in the stable who's capable
Speaker 3: of doing these things. This is the modern quarterback, the
Speaker 3: athletic quarterback that can extend plays, that has the arm
Speaker 3: strength to squeeze it into a tight window and then
Speaker 3: let the guy do the rest like he did in
Speaker 3: that touchdown.
Speaker 2: So it's all coming up for them.
Speaker 3: But it is also against third stringers, so it's like yah,
Speaker 3: grain of salt. But Greg I will say, I know
Speaker 3: people have worried about this receiving core in New England
Speaker 3: for years.
Speaker 2: I kind of like this top three.
Speaker 3: I kind of like this group a little bit and
Speaker 3: call me crazy, but Jalen Polk, I think is going
Speaker 3: to surprise people. I like the idea of Kendrick Bourne
Speaker 3: being in the mix at some point. I like di
Speaker 3: Mario Douglas and Taekwon Thornton's the speedzer that they never
Speaker 3: really used. If Drake May really has that arm that
Speaker 3: you think he has, then maybe you're able to capitalize
Speaker 3: on that. Maybe this is the start of a new
Speaker 3: era for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Well he has it, whether he can make the right
Speaker 1: decisions and be accurate enough. Look, he went thirteen for
Speaker 1: twenty in this game, one hundred and twenty six yards
Speaker 1: in a touchdown, had a long touchdown on a broken
Speaker 1: play at the end of the half taken away that
Speaker 1: was in the two minute drive. But that two minute
Speaker 1: drive is where he made another couple nice throws to
Speaker 1: the outside where he really showed off his arm strength.
Speaker 1: Poke ends up with two catches thirty three yards. You
Speaker 1: mentioned Taekwon Thornton. He's surprisingly earned a starting job, so
Speaker 1: I did not expect that it's gonna be Thornton, Polk
Speaker 1: and Douglas. I believe to start the season, Polk and
Speaker 1: kJ Osborne are maybe sharing some snaps in.
Speaker 3: Their Osborne is the savvy one, I think, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: because he was a guy who was underappreciated in his past,
Speaker 3: and I think it's actually a good fit in that
Speaker 3: core because it's gonna be a committee group, like there's
Speaker 3: not going to be maybe Polk ends up being that
Speaker 3: guy because he was just such a dog in college,
Speaker 3: But it's gonna be a committe group whre they're all
Speaker 3: going to rely on each other's strengths and you're not
Speaker 3: gonna have to just target one guy. It's just like,
Speaker 3: all right, let's throw it to this guy here, he
Speaker 3: can do this, Let's do that. And I like that
Speaker 3: idea with a Drake may because it's just like a
Speaker 3: young group that's kind of figuring out together.
Speaker 2: That's good for a team like this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Javon Baker had a couple of targets in
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 4: Loved him too. Don't forget too.
Speaker 1: I know people if they happen to watch the game,
Speaker 1: are thinking you want to mention the punt on punt
Speaker 1: right in the middle of it. Well, yeah, Drake may
Speaker 1: had a couple bad throws there too, but this offensive
Speaker 1: line could not have played any worse. It makes you worried,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a Patriots fan or if you
Speaker 1: just like seeing decent football, about whether this offense is
Speaker 1: going to be operable at all. Here's some numbers for you.
Speaker 1: Eight penalties in the first half by the offensive line
Speaker 1: that include That did not include the play where Jacoby
Speaker 1: Brissett got steamrolled because one offensive lineman pulled and ran
Speaker 1: into another offensive lineman on that play and the puller
Speaker 1: didn't get to the edge. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: would have gotten there anyways. That didn't look cohesive and
Speaker 1: he got Jacoby Brissett hurt. It also didn't include the
Speaker 1: play we're gonna listen to now, which again was an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman error.
Speaker 7: Outside City. So there it goes to shoot kick it all,
Speaker 7: No big deal, Just go ahead and throw this ball
Speaker 7: for a first down. What the heck, man, he's on
Speaker 7: a roll right now, don't Boddy wake him up?
Speaker 4: So that was starting guard City.
Speaker 1: So stepping on Drake May's shoe, which flew off before
Speaker 1: May went kind of three quarters and got a nice
Speaker 1: first out, nice play by him, and then to top
Speaker 1: it all off, Nick so got hurt late in the
Speaker 1: first half year. The offensive line, it was a totally
Speaker 1: different group in terms of where they lined up.
Speaker 4: Everyone moved around.
Speaker 1: Suddenly a whe who was at right tackle, it's a
Speaker 1: corps for us back at left tackle.
Speaker 4: They're moving things around.
Speaker 1: They didn't and whatever they tried out tonight, I do
Speaker 1: not think that's gonna be the offensive line they tried
Speaker 1: out week one. But that just shows you like they're
Speaker 1: trying all sorts of new combinations at this point.
Speaker 4: It's a bit of a disaster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a bad sign when you're trying combinations that
Speaker 3: frequently in the preseason. When you're on the cusp of
Speaker 3: the regular season, you kind of want those guys established
Speaker 3: and you're starting five set and maybe some of those
Speaker 3: guys don't play in Week three. Meanwhile, the Patriots are
Speaker 3: just shuffling guys around and try them out like it's
Speaker 3: a scrimmage and it's you know, July and you're playing
Speaker 3: high school football or something.
Speaker 2: And you know, I get it.
Speaker 1: They needed reps and they wanted to try out this
Speaker 1: rookie Lady Robinson who supposedly look good, and then you
Speaker 1: put Owenu at right tackle, is not his strongest position.
Speaker 1: Part of it is they were missing their left tackle,
Speaker 1: who is now going to be Verdarian Low. So I
Speaker 1: think that'll settle it if they get him back. But man,
Speaker 1: I both think Drake May should start, and I both
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a bit of a fiasco for
Speaker 1: whichever quarterback is out there.
Speaker 4: But give me the May chaos versus whatever, the Jacoby chaos.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just it's a departure from what the Patriots were before.
Speaker 3: I mean, the Patriots were a team that would take
Speaker 3: an offensive lineman that people would scratch their heads and think,
Speaker 3: why'd you take that guy? And then they would develop
Speaker 3: him into a stud. And they're just not that team anymore.
Speaker 3: And if you look at the construction of their top five,
Speaker 3: Vederian Low City sal like Chuuks of Khora four, who
Speaker 3: did not have a good time in Pittsburgh before, like
Speaker 3: these are guys that are not proven at best, and
Speaker 3: like the cold strange pick. In the past, everybody laughed
Speaker 3: at it, including the Rams, and then I was like,
Speaker 3: well trust him. They developed lineman and that you know,
Speaker 3: he was on pup and everything, but that also hasn't
Speaker 3: panned out either, so it's.
Speaker 2: Like, this is not a good situation to put a run.
Speaker 2: Now they haven't worry about They.
Speaker 1: Didn't spend anything on the offensive line this off, so
Speaker 1: that was a mistake. All right, let's move on. We're
Speaker 1: going to go through all thirty two teams. Most of
Speaker 1: the teams will be quicker because look, preseason Week three,
Speaker 1: there weren't a lot of big takeaways from the games themselves,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna mix in some game talk, but mostly
Speaker 1: just little notes. Some teams aren't going to have much,
Speaker 1: but we just wanted to get everyone a little bit
Speaker 1: of news to start your week, just kind of where
Speaker 1: these teams are at. I'm going to go to the
Speaker 1: start with the Bills. It looks like Ray Davis Tyron
Speaker 1: Johnson might be to a to be at running back.
Speaker 1: We've talked about their wide receiver group. They might need
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the next few days. Mitchell Trubisky got
Speaker 1: hurt in their preseason game and so they got to
Speaker 1: feel a little dicey going into Week one.
Speaker 4: Maybe looking for a backup for Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's not good when you sign Anthony
Speaker 3: Brown and immediately toss him into a preseason game.
Speaker 2: I mean just days after signing him. That's when you're
Speaker 2: grasping its.
Speaker 1: I always feel bad for those quarterbacks. That does happen
Speaker 1: more often than you think. Matt Barrow is another one
Speaker 1: you just get signed and you just put him right
Speaker 1: out there. It really shows the second half of these
Speaker 1: games don't matter much. Dolphins. I think it's under the radar.
Speaker 1: All top all of their top four receivers are hurt
Speaker 1: right now. Tyreek Hill's got a thumb injury. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's going to be an issue for Week one,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't been practicing. Jalen Wattle's been out for
Speaker 1: a little while now, River Craik Aff got hurt. Obj
Speaker 1: still every week I mentioned, still hasn't practiced, like Mike
Speaker 1: McDaniel is, you know, uncommitted to that. They did decide though,
Speaker 1: on a backup quarterback. Skyler Thompson is that guy Mike
Speaker 1: White was cut on Sunday shooky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they only have two quarterbacks in the depth chart.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 2: That speaks of the Chargers of about ten years ago.
Speaker 2: Is that okay? Greg?
Speaker 3: Is that enough for this team considering to his injury history.
Speaker 3: I know he played all that all the games last year,
Speaker 3: but little concerned.
Speaker 1: You'll get a third to put on the practice squad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know in their PERFORLD maybe it would be Mike White.
Speaker 1: Now he has a big salary, so I don't know
Speaker 1: how that works. I don't even know if he's eligible.
Speaker 1: The rules are strange these days for practice squad, but
Speaker 1: they'll have to find a developmental guy to have. But
Speaker 1: Skyler Thompson outplayed him. Keep an eye on the running backs.
Speaker 1: I think in the next couple of days I'm going
Speaker 1: to be doing a cutdown Day show with Evan Silva,
Speaker 1: and they're a team that maybe they could raid one
Speaker 1: of their running backs. They have so many, maybe at
Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson if anyone want to give up. And then
Speaker 1: one thing I just noticed just tracking the team, this
Speaker 1: team just hasn't been on the field that much. Like
Speaker 1: their starters have not been on the field that much
Speaker 1: on either side of the ball very often, like their
Speaker 1: defensive line, offensive line. Different players in the secondary just
Speaker 1: haven't been on the field. That would make me a
Speaker 1: little anxious.
Speaker 3: That was defense, I mean a little bit, but they're
Speaker 3: also speaking super lofty about like their goals of getting
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're just comfortable with what they have.
Speaker 3: I would feel uncertain about the receiving core because they
Speaker 3: just are all banged up, and that's a concerned way
Speaker 3: in a weak one.
Speaker 2: But again, we know what this offense is, we know
Speaker 2: what this team is.
Speaker 3: Defensively, I would like to see little bit more cohesion
Speaker 3: with the starters and everything, considering give a new DC
Speaker 3: and Anthony Weaver.
Speaker 2: But you know, we'll let it play out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. Jets had a joint
Speaker 1: practice this week with the Giants. I think they got
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence out of that shook. They just
Speaker 1: kind of beating up on the Giants. Aaron Rodgers has
Speaker 1: had a quiet preseason, like just media wise, which that's
Speaker 1: not enough.
Speaker 4: That's good change.
Speaker 1: But by all accounts, he's dropping bombs. He's looking sharp,
Speaker 1: and I was really looking for that in this last
Speaker 1: five six weeks.
Speaker 4: What kind of reports and he's passed all those tests.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In fact, I saw somebody write a piece I can
Speaker 3: remember who it was, about how Robert Salla like learned
Speaker 3: to accept Aaron Rodgers for who he is, and so
Speaker 3: you know, it's all rainbows and sunshine right now. And
Speaker 3: as long as he stays healthy, they should be a
Speaker 3: good team. And again, this is a team that I
Speaker 3: don't need to see much from the preseason. Just stay healthy,
Speaker 3: get to the regular season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're counting on Mike Williams and Alan Lazard really
Speaker 1: to be factors here, So that's something to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on. Tac McKinley might be a nice story here,
Speaker 1: the love of that pick up, Falcon's first round pick,
Speaker 1: had a nice preseason game, and I think he's going
Speaker 1: to make this team by all accounts. Let's go to
Speaker 1: the NFC North. So the Steelers all but confirm Russ
Speaker 1: Wilson as their starter, I think because he barely played
Speaker 1: in their second preseason game. He went two for two
Speaker 1: and they also sent him out to do the coin.
Speaker 4: Toss all by himself.
Speaker 1: See this is what is what you get that they're
Speaker 1: not going to set him out for the coin toss
Speaker 1: by himself. He's got to be the starter, right Nick.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would hope.
Speaker 3: So, unless it's one of those teams that just designates
Speaker 3: a random captain every week and sometimes it's the long snapper,
Speaker 3: but no, I think he is. And the thing is
Speaker 3: is with that game, justin Fields again, just you know,
Speaker 3: there were times where you're like, oh, okay, maybe, but
Speaker 3: ultimately the greater picture didn't give me any reason to
Speaker 3: believe that he would actually challenge him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think he had a chance to win the job
Speaker 4: by playing better this month.
Speaker 1: We've talked about the offensive line issues that they've had
Speaker 1: in terms of injuries that got in the way, but
Speaker 1: Fields just didn't didn't take that chance. Quiz Watkins was
Speaker 1: playing deep into the fourth quarter. That's probably a sign
Speaker 1: he's not going to be around.
Speaker 4: Cord L. Patterson still around.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why Russell Wilson only threw two passes
Speaker 1: through one nice deep crosser to Pickens. He had one
Speaker 1: other throw I think it was also to Pickens, and
Speaker 1: then c pat goes for thirty one Like he's still
Speaker 1: a legit player in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Let's do it right up the gut in classic Arthur
Speaker 3: Smith Atlanta Falcons fashion.
Speaker 2: It looked like he came right out of that team,
Speaker 2: right through the middle, untouched for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I mean, he might be the second best wide receiver
Speaker 1: on the roster. Yeah, Quarterell Patterson. I contend this is
Speaker 1: the worst wide receiver two through six in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if Steelers would disagree. Dan Jefferson,
Speaker 1: Calvin Austen, Roman Wilson who hasn't been healthy, whoever else, Like,
Speaker 1: forget it. Nick Kurbick is a beast by the way
Speaker 1: he's had such a good preseason. Oh my god, he's
Speaker 1: been just a problem causer on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. He could be like as good as Alex
Speaker 1: high Smith doone and that could already be the best
Speaker 1: pass rushing trio in the League of Urban delivers. Let's
Speaker 1: go to some big news from the Bengals on Sunday,
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase practice. So the holden, I don't know what
Speaker 1: it accomplished, will find out. There was no one talked
Speaker 1: on Sunday, but he's out there practicing. This is kind
Speaker 1: of that week. Remember, I think I made the over
Speaker 1: under of Trent Williams reporting. I think today Sunday or
Speaker 1: Monday like that is pretty much the time I would
Speaker 1: expect players to end these holdouts.
Speaker 4: And the holden is over. So that's good news for
Speaker 4: the Bengals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine Monday when you start your game prep.
Speaker 3: You know, even though you're a week ahead of the
Speaker 3: actual game prep week, you're in the dead week right now.
Speaker 3: But it's a good week to like get acclimated before
Speaker 3: you start the work. That makes sense for him. I mean,
Speaker 3: they've basically already said they're going to handle it. It's
Speaker 3: just a matter of him showing up, and he will
Speaker 3: before long.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Eric Roberts tells me I said thirty six
Speaker 1: hours was my over under for after Trent Williams would
Speaker 1: show up in to of when their game ended. We
Speaker 1: are approaching twenty four hours, so I need this thing
Speaker 1: to happen Monday afternoon.
Speaker 4: Ros I'm gonna be wrong.
Speaker 1: The Bingals also, you know, they were running Chase Brown
Speaker 1: with the starters more than Moss, according to Paul Dayner
Speaker 1: the Athletic. I thought that was interesting. Dax Hill, the
Speaker 1: converted first round safety, has won the starting cornerback job again.
Speaker 1: According to Paul Dayner, that's pretty nice camp for him
Speaker 1: over DJ Turner, Miles Murphy Murphy their first round pick
Speaker 1: from a year ago, who really hasn't done anything since
Speaker 1: he's been drafted. He's going to miss a month. Let's
Speaker 1: go to your Browns, Nick Schuck, I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 1: Andrew Berry said he sounded hopeful Jedgiic Wills and Jack
Speaker 1: Conklin will be available for Week one. Both of those
Speaker 1: guys coming off really serious injuries have not touched the
Speaker 1: field yet, and again we're now less.
Speaker 4: Than two weeks away from the first kickoff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been in a bit of an offensive line
Speaker 3: crisis this preseason. They had like multiple tackles lost in
Speaker 3: a game. So I think they learned their vulnerability of
Speaker 3: the position already, and maybe this is them saying, hey, look,
Speaker 3: these are guys that we know what they can do.
Speaker 3: They're coming back from injury. We're just gonna give them
Speaker 3: the entire preseason, in camp and everything else to get
Speaker 3: ready and then just slide. I just get a little
Speaker 3: nervous when guys yes at all and then suddenly they're
Speaker 3: just gonna play like. That's not the only guy in
Speaker 3: this roster that says them do that. The same thing
Speaker 3: is true with Dalvin Tomlinson, who has not practiced but
Speaker 3: has assured everyone he's gonna be ready for Week one.
Speaker 2: How do you just get ready? It wouldn't be me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Greg. Greg Newsom is another one. Really
Speaker 1: good cornerback. Nick Chubb is not going to be one.
Speaker 1: He's expected to be put on the pup. There's also
Speaker 1: the N season ir list where now you can put
Speaker 1: them on the N season IR list on the day
Speaker 1: of cutting down and it won't count towards like the
Speaker 1: total amount. You can put two guys on it and
Speaker 1: you can just carry them into the season. So they
Speaker 1: could do that with him if they wanted as well.
Speaker 1: And then some buzz that DTR Dorian Thompson Robinson could
Speaker 1: be dealt. I kind of figured Tyler Huntley would be
Speaker 1: the odd man out, but they are the one team
Speaker 1: that has too many quarterbacks. They actually have, like I mean,
Speaker 1: DTR and Tyler Huntley would upgrade at least like five
Speaker 1: backup situations like they would. They would be better, they would,
Speaker 1: They could be a two in a bunch of places.
Speaker 3: It's very interesting how they've used them because Jamis rolls
Speaker 3: out with the you know, presumed starters, even though it's
Speaker 3: not the actual starters, and then it's been either Tyler
Speaker 3: Huntley or DTR depending on the week. This week it
Speaker 3: was DTR first, then Tyler Huntley. But I think that's
Speaker 3: an audition. And you know what, Greg, we already talked
Speaker 3: about this team. But I'm just going through my head
Speaker 3: real quick. Where would he be a fit thrown in Miami?
Speaker 3: Why not throw them on that depth chart? They only
Speaker 3: got two quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Throw them over there, Miami could be could be one
Speaker 4: for Tyler Huntley. Uh yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: There's there's there's a couple out there that the backup
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. Jakey, I think Baltimore is one of them.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go to them. You know, they have Josh
Speaker 1: Johnson as their backup, which just that's the full plan.
Speaker 1: I don't know Owen Wright h was going to make
Speaker 1: the team as a as a third running back. He
Speaker 1: broke his foot in the pre season finale, so that's tough.
Speaker 1: I just look at their roster. They're quite thin at
Speaker 1: running back behind Justice Hill and Derrick Henry, and quite
Speaker 1: thin at receiver. So they're a team to just watch
Speaker 1: see what Eric DaCosta does in the next few days.
Speaker 1: I think they're they're not done picking up some veterans,
Speaker 1: and that annoy you as a Browns fan. They always
Speaker 1: pick up someone like this week that'll end up making
Speaker 1: the key player.
Speaker 3: They've They've been doing it for years. They've been doing
Speaker 3: it for years. They did it with a Clowney a
Speaker 3: few years ago. They do it every year. They get
Speaker 3: somebody and added to that group, usually on the defensive side.
Speaker 3: But the downside is Keaton Mitchell being on pup because
Speaker 3: he was a guy that really popped last year that
Speaker 3: I thought that could really fill out that room. And
Speaker 3: if he's not going to be available, then yeah, suddenly
Speaker 3: you're looking down the list and thinking, all right, we
Speaker 3: got to find somebody here.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with them.
Speaker 1: I am excited. I mean, they are playing a football
Speaker 1: game in ten days. If you're listening to this on Monday,
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing. Fortunately, before we take a break,
Speaker 1: some sad news from the Ravens. Rest in peace to
Speaker 1: their offense of line coach Joe d Alessandras. He's been
Speaker 1: their offensive line coach since twenty seventeen. He was with
Speaker 1: them in training camp, still coaching. He left the team
Speaker 1: is a few weeks ago now with what John Harbaugh
Speaker 1: said was an acute illness and the news came out
Speaker 1: that he passed away. So rest in peace to him,
Speaker 1: just really well respected guy, had been with the team
Speaker 1: for for eight years, had a long career before that,
Speaker 1: beloved by his offensive lineman. And yeah, that's tough for
Speaker 1: the Ravens. And we're just going to take a quick break.
Speaker 1: Rest in piece to Joe d alessandras back on NFL
Speaker 1: Daily hitting notes for every team. And look, it's the
Speaker 1: third preseason week. Some notes are better than others. I
Speaker 1: see on our shared doc Nick, you wrote the note,
Speaker 1: could Tim Boyle beat out Case Keenan?
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And the reason is is thought.
Speaker 3: I saw the first Texans preseason game in person in Canada,
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game, and Case Keenum did not
Speaker 3: look good. And every Texans game I've seen since then,
Speaker 3: he does not look very good. He looks old, He
Speaker 3: looks like somebody who kind of can't do it anymore.
Speaker 3: Not to say that Tim Boyle is better, but Tim
Speaker 3: Boyle has looked a little bit better this preseason. And
Speaker 3: if they're gonna trim that room down, if it was
Speaker 3: me going off of this tape, not a lot of tape,
Speaker 3: but this tape, I'm taking Tim Boyle over Case Keenum.
Speaker 4: That's a hot take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I'm listening to the other team podcasts like
Speaker 1: Around the NFL, and they'll be like a couple of
Speaker 1: them that have needed quarterbacks, be like, couldn't we just
Speaker 1: get Case Keenum in here, have him be our backup
Speaker 1: or trade a seventh for Case because they recognize a
Speaker 1: name and I'm just thinking, like, I mean, he is
Speaker 1: thirty six years old. These guys don't stay the exact
Speaker 1: same forever. There's a reason why he's fallen down a
Speaker 1: little bit. But a beautiful career for Case Keenum if
Speaker 1: for some reason he didn't make that team. As Chris
Speaker 1: Westling would often say on the Around the NFL podcast,
Speaker 1: let your freak case in him, flagfly, let's go. This
Speaker 1: team has too many wide receivers. Who goes No Brown,
Speaker 1: Robert Woods, John Metchi, Xavier Hutchinson is a good young player.
Speaker 1: I think one of those guys, maybe the veterans of
Speaker 1: the Brown is in one hundred percent, gets like a
Speaker 1: sixth or seventh round conditional pick or a pick swap
Speaker 1: just because there's there's too many, and I think one
Speaker 1: of those guys, No Brown or Robert Woods, could help
Speaker 1: out a different team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they have like eleven receivers in the
Speaker 3: Rock like Quintes Siphiz is on this roster and actually
Speaker 3: like maybe they're good.
Speaker 1: Honestly Mechi's look good in the preseason. Hutchinson, I think
Speaker 1: it's looked pretty good like most teams. Like I said,
Speaker 1: like those two guys would be wide receiver two and
Speaker 1: three on the Steelers.
Speaker 3: I think that if I had to trick him down,
Speaker 3: Ben's kronics gone. Stevenson, you go back to Pittsburgh, get it,
Speaker 3: get there's some At the very end, cam Akers looked
Speaker 3: really good. He's gonna make the team. Yeah, So shout
Speaker 3: out to him. After those injuries, Let's go to the Colts.
Speaker 3: Don't have a ton on the Colts because we talked
Speaker 3: about them on Thursday night. I did talk going into
Speaker 3: the preseson who's going to play cornerback for this team.
Speaker 3: It looks like it's gonna be Juju Brent and Jalen
Speaker 3: Jones as the outside cornerbacks. On Sunday, they had a
Speaker 3: relative surprise early cut Ronnie Harrison, who's played a lot
Speaker 3: of football Levy was with the Browns and that writers
Speaker 3: with the Colts were pretty surprised about that because he's
Speaker 3: gotten a lot of snaps. But otherwise don't have a lot.
Speaker 9: To say them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've taken an interesting strategy at safety, like Nick
Speaker 3: Cross came out of nowhere to be the free safety
Speaker 3: last year. So seeing Ronnie Harrison go, I mean, Ronnie's
Speaker 3: bounced around since he's been with the Browns. So not
Speaker 3: super surprising to me in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 3: but with this team, it.
Speaker 2: Is a surprise.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they got relatively good news that their backup running
Speaker 1: back Trace Sermon could be back for a week one.
Speaker 4: I'm really interested in watching this team.
Speaker 1: That Colts Texans game is in my number one position
Speaker 1: for Week one, but we'll get to that in.
Speaker 4: Our preview show and in just a week and a half.
Speaker 1: Jags Okay, So they did the thing that the Patriots
Speaker 1: did on Sunday Night, but look better doing it. And
Speaker 1: I love this when this happens, starters versus backups, or
Speaker 1: starters versus third string, there's just something cool about that.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, let's just see what happens. You're supposed
Speaker 1: to look great, and they did. Trevor had some absolute
Speaker 1: dimes to Evan Ingram in the end zone. Brian Thomas
Speaker 1: Junior had another big play. Trayvon Walker is just like
Speaker 1: lighting up the Falcons backups like he's back in college.
Speaker 4: It was kind of fun.
Speaker 1: I like seeing when the starters come out and look
Speaker 1: like starters, like the Patriots starters.
Speaker 4: I mean, they got a lead, but it wasn't it
Speaker 4: wasn't nearly as convincing.
Speaker 3: Now it's fun to see like the superiority of a
Speaker 3: starting NFL player versus like a bottom of the roster
Speaker 3: and camp NFL player, because like, the difference is just
Speaker 3: pretty significant. But I'm also like, let's not do this
Speaker 3: to an extreme degree because then fans are gonna be like,
Speaker 3: look how good they were in Week three of the preseason,
Speaker 3: we're winning.
Speaker 2: The super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Although in fairness, yet you're absolutely right. The couple throws
Speaker 1: Trevor had were just into small windows and it was like,
Speaker 1: the are pretty throwers. John Shipley, if you didn't listen
Speaker 1: on Friday, got me more excited about this Jaguars team,
Speaker 1: including a.
Speaker 4: Little hype on their rookie kicker.
Speaker 1: This rookie kicker, Cam Little that they drafted has just
Speaker 1: been piping field goals and he did it in the
Speaker 1: preseason game too. Let's go to the Titans, who played
Speaker 1: on Sunday, will Levis. They had the thing going to
Speaker 1: starters versus the Saints' backups and their first teamers role.
Speaker 1: I felt like half most of their offense was screen
Speaker 1: passes due Pollard and Spears, and they just kept working
Speaker 1: over and over. So it was relatively light work for Levis,
Speaker 1: but he was efficient got them into the end zone.
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph has definitely won that second quarterback job. I
Speaker 1: kind of think Malik Willis might be done in Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just has not looked good.
Speaker 3: I know he has two touchdowns to his name in
Speaker 3: this game, but he has not looked comfortable or like
Speaker 3: he's taken any steps forward since he ended the league.
Speaker 3: And when it comes down to cut down day and
Speaker 3: you got to make room on the roster, sometimes guys
Speaker 3: like that end up on the chopping block.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've I've been mentioning to you guys, we're putting
Speaker 1: all these shows up on YouTube. We're working on improving
Speaker 1: that experience too, and I want you to be able
Speaker 1: to watch the all twenty two of my guy, Thomas
Speaker 1: Otakoya from the Netherlands, part of the International Player Pathway program,
Speaker 1: with one of the greatest hustle plays I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in NFL history. I don't care that it happened into
Speaker 1: the preseason. Let's take a look. He's going to be
Speaker 1: circled in the video that you see, but also talk
Speaker 1: over it because.
Speaker 4: I know some of you aren't watching.
Speaker 1: So this was a field goal that came up short
Speaker 1: late in the first half. And yeah, if you're watching,
Speaker 1: Otakoya is circled.
Speaker 4: A tight end.
Speaker 1: Samson Nakua Pukah's brother, catches it, weaves his way about
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy yards back and forth down the field,
Speaker 1: and Odacuyah somehow runs him down. He ran over the field.
Speaker 1: It was the very last play of the first half,
Speaker 1: so he saved seven points. I mean, that's just getting
Speaker 1: it done at least. I know they don't need to
Speaker 1: use a roster spot if they put him on the
Speaker 1: practice squad, but come on, just put him on the
Speaker 1: active roster just for that.
Speaker 3: Nicholas Petite Ferrera his teammate, a starting tackle on this team.
Speaker 3: Watch his body language in this video because this tells
Speaker 3: you everything you need to know about football players who
Speaker 3: appreciate the hustle and effort of their teammates. He was
Speaker 3: fired up. They just returned this all the way down
Speaker 3: to the two yard line. But he's so fired up
Speaker 3: that his teammate kept him from a touchdown, gives him
Speaker 3: a big hug, slaps him on the helmet.
Speaker 2: That is the camaraderie that you don't getting any other sport.
Speaker 1: Now that said, I was disappointed because Walker my son
Speaker 1: was watching this thing live and he starts screaming. I'm
Speaker 1: in the other room putting together these notes and everything.
Speaker 1: He just starts screaming because that would have been the
Speaker 1: play of the preseason easily. Puka Nokua's brother, you know,
Speaker 1: traveling on the final play on a kick six and
Speaker 1: he was robbed by a great effort. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go to the AFC West. The Broncos. They didn't even
Speaker 1: play Bo Nicks in this game. After naming him the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Zach Wilson had a very Zach Wilson game
Speaker 1: where he was part It was like he was back
Speaker 1: at college and so he had some big numbers. Jared
Speaker 1: Stidham spoke afterwards that he was pretty upset that he
Speaker 1: knows he's a starting quarterback in this league. Sean Payton
Speaker 1: said that he's keeping all three quarterbacks, but not always
Speaker 1: the most reliable narrator. It wouldn't shock me if Stidham
Speaker 1: was dealt for like a late round pick swap or something.
Speaker 2: Either talked his way out of Denver because he was
Speaker 2: upset the tame.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think what he said, just because you know,
Speaker 4: do they want to keep all three? Maybe they do.
Speaker 4: That's what Sean Payton said, that they'll keep all three.
Speaker 3: I have to caution just a little bit here, and
Speaker 3: you already said it, but I'm just going to double
Speaker 3: down the whole Zach Wilson when he's protected, he looks
Speaker 3: like he's back in college. I got a text from
Speaker 3: an esteemed Broncos fan that you and I know that
Speaker 3: said that they that they have to keep him on
Speaker 3: the roster. They have to find a way to keep him.
Speaker 3: Let's just be a little careful because they are good
Speaker 3: and bad of Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1: So they're going to keep him because, as Jordan Rodrigue
Speaker 1: said on the show that we do, you know, Sean
Speaker 1: Payton wants to show like I can fix him. He's
Speaker 1: the He's the hot guy that I can fix. So
Speaker 1: he's going to try to do it, probably as a
Speaker 1: backup you know who fixed a tough situation.
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: What a weird story that popped up with the Chargers
Speaker 1: that Justin Herbert, dan Founce's wife, Dan Fouts's son, and
Speaker 1: some other Chargers players that dan Fous did not reveal,
Speaker 1: but he did reveal the rest of this story on
Speaker 1: the Chargers preseason broadcast. We're all trapped in an elevator
Speaker 1: together in Dallas. The fire department had to come and
Speaker 1: get them out through the top and like go over
Speaker 1: to another elevator. Sounds pretty crazy, but according to Dan Fouts,
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert showed great leadership in that elevator. Was very calm,
Speaker 1: cool and collected and kind of took charge.
Speaker 4: I love that. I know by the way, he's fully
Speaker 4: recovered and looking at good at practice that match.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's good at practice because he's obviously not
Speaker 3: playing the preseason. But wow, you know what that is
Speaker 3: what you look for in a franchise quarterback. It's not
Speaker 3: the plays in the field, it's whether you're trapped in
Speaker 3: an elevator, and he could lead everyone.
Speaker 2: To safety with the assistants of the fire department. Good job,
Speaker 2: good on you.
Speaker 1: Okay, So here are some of the team that could
Speaker 1: go get one of these quarterbacks that we're talking about
Speaker 1: that could be available from from Cleveland East and stick through.
Speaker 1: He completed forty five percent of his passes this preseason,
Speaker 1: So yeah, not good. Not look any better in the
Speaker 1: third week against you know, the backups to the backups
Speaker 1: against Dallas, the Raiders, Tyreek McCallister. If the Sampson nakooa
Speaker 1: play wasn't the highlight of the weekend, it was Tyrek
Speaker 1: McCallister going ham on a couple long touchdoups. I never
Speaker 1: heard of Tyreek McCallister before, kind of a receiver return man,
Speaker 1: but he's on my roster now. He had a couple
Speaker 1: of nice plays for the Races.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's how you were in a job sometimes
Speaker 3: back in the day, Victor Cruz did the same thing
Speaker 3: with the Giants. But I do want to go back
Speaker 3: to the Charges real quick, because, Okay, Greg a name
Speaker 3: that everybody knows, but everybody thought was done for a
Speaker 3: year ago because he was a scouting intern with the Ravens.
Speaker 3: Tony Jefferson is back on the football field and he
Speaker 3: had the best game I've ever seen from a player
Speaker 3: in the preseason. Tackles, forced fumble, two interceptions, and a
Speaker 3: sack against the Cowboys not single handedly changed the game,
Speaker 3: but prove to me that in a game in WI
Speaker 3: you're playing against a bunch of backups or alongside a
Speaker 3: bunch of backups, you can still hack it.
Speaker 2: I think he earned himself a roster spot with this game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got to be in his thirties. There had
Speaker 4: some great I think he's thirty two years.
Speaker 1: With the Cardinals, had some moments with the Ravens, and yeah,
Speaker 1: now he's back, he could have made that team. One
Speaker 1: thing I noticed with the Raiders are counting on a
Speaker 1: couple offensive line mean kind of like the Browns that
Speaker 1: are coming off of injury. Colton Miller just got off pop,
Speaker 1: but they do think he'll be ready for a week
Speaker 1: when Jackson powers Johnson their rookie, may you not start
Speaker 1: this season because he's coming off of an injury, but
Speaker 1: he is back on the practice field. Finally, in the AFC,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I just feel like it's every week right
Speaker 1: now that we're talking about their full back Carson Steel.
Speaker 1: The latest projection at the Athletic for their roster had
Speaker 1: them only keeping two running backs, and then Carson Steel
Speaker 1: kind of being the third running as a fullback. I
Speaker 1: feel like they could use a veteran there. They could
Speaker 1: maybe use a veteran at cornerback two, where Andy Reid
Speaker 1: publicly said no one really stepped up in that CB
Speaker 1: two spot, and it might just be a little bit
Speaker 1: of a rotation, which is in the end of the world.
Speaker 1: These guys have some experience, but I think they were
Speaker 1: hoping for a different outcome.
Speaker 3: They also draft ahead of time to plan for these situations,
Speaker 3: so we've seen this before that they let talent leave
Speaker 3: and then they kind of have to committee until one
Speaker 3: guy emerges.
Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3: But Greg, you are telling me though, that the guy
Speaker 3: that I spent hours of my life writing about l
Speaker 3: r Z himself, Lewis Reeves Zammit, is not gonna make
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 1: From what I've read, I don't think he's been that
Speaker 1: close throughout making the team, but he'll definitely be on
Speaker 1: the practice squad. They made an investment to him. He's
Speaker 1: just playing football for the first time in his life
Speaker 1: and this might be a multi year project, and I
Speaker 1: think they're all in on going for it. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get picked up by another team or something.
Speaker 1: So he's still with the right organization. But I don't
Speaker 1: think he was quite ready, and they gave him chances
Speaker 1: as a returner on offense, but it didn't happen for him.
Speaker 4: Look, it's hard to make the Chiefs roster.
Speaker 1: Kadarius Tony helped win them a Super Bowl, and as
Speaker 1: a former first round pick, I don't think he's making
Speaker 1: their roster either. All right, let's go to the NFC.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the Eagles. Big news out of Philly.
Speaker 1: I think it was the last day of camp. Might
Speaker 1: have been the second to last day of camp. Nick
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has finally thrown an interception. He made it
Speaker 1: that far into training camp without throwing an interception. It's
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable because the reporters there have said, like he's
Speaker 1: thrown deep plenty. It's not that he's been like totally unaggressive.
Speaker 1: He's just been rock solid and keeping the ball out
Speaker 1: of harm's way.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the first sign that this team's going to
Speaker 3: figure out what they couldn't figure out last year and
Speaker 3: actually get back on track. I mean, it's just camp,
Speaker 3: it's just practice, but that's where you look for the
Speaker 3: initial signs of how things might go. I've been to
Speaker 3: camps where things have been pretty disheveled and then watching
Speaker 3: that team struggle that was the twenty nineteen Browns.
Speaker 2: So it's better that they're on the positive side. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And our guy bow Wolf, who was on the show
Speaker 1: earlier in his phl y podcast for the Eagles, he
Speaker 1: said the defense actually picked it up there the last
Speaker 1: week and a half, gave gave a lot of trouble
Speaker 1: to Jalen Hurts, but he was still playing well. It
Speaker 1: was more about the offensive line, and now they have
Speaker 1: a new wide receiver of course in Johan Dotson. The
Speaker 1: most notable thing in their preseason game Cooper Dezine out
Speaker 1: there playing a lot blitzing a ton could work his
Speaker 1: way into having a role early for the Eagle. So
Speaker 1: nice that he did kind of get off the mat here.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll work them in slowly, but they almost have
Speaker 1: too many cornerbacks, which considering where they were last year,
Speaker 1: is a great problem to have, not as great I
Speaker 1: think at edge where Nolan Smith was out there deep
Speaker 1: into the game in preseason Week three. That's a first
Speaker 1: round pick for Howie. One of those that people like
Speaker 1: me are like he did it again, Howie. But you know,
Speaker 1: those Georgia haven't really come through in general. Jalen Carter,
Speaker 1: that's an exception, but the rest of them, not just
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, I just mean around the league, haven't
Speaker 1: really totally come well.
Speaker 3: I think I think you'll see a step forward from
Speaker 3: Jordan Davis too, but I would agree in that. It's
Speaker 3: it's also like funny because we're obviously not talking about
Speaker 3: them yet, but they'll be up soon. It's like the
Speaker 3: it's a very great comparison between two teams that are
Speaker 3: either too deep at corner or not deep enough, the
Speaker 3: Eagles and the Cowboys division rivals.
Speaker 2: Well, let's go Cowboys. They lose.
Speaker 3: They lose Deron Bland right to a foot injury, and
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones goes on record as saying, we feel great
Speaker 3: about where we are at corner.
Speaker 2: We're fine.
Speaker 3: And I'm looking at this depth chart and I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: are you sure, because like, you're not Eagles fine when
Speaker 3: it comes to cornerback.
Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned about that.
Speaker 3: I know I've talked about Andrew Booth and he had
Speaker 3: another nice preseason game to wrap it up.
Speaker 1: But if you're he did not know he did not shooky.
Speaker 1: He got torched on like a seventy eight yard er.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he did the rest of the game, frankly,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't paying close attention, but he gave up
Speaker 1: that that.
Speaker 3: Was That was the explosive play that Easton Stick had
Speaker 3: in the game where the Chargers we're opening up and
Speaker 3: throwing it deep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a lot to keep track up. So
Speaker 1: they like this kid, Caitlin Carson. He was a third
Speaker 1: round pick. And this is why I'm glad sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: you're reading these reports and listening to Jane Slater and
Speaker 1: they really liked him. First week, second week, third week
Speaker 1: of training camp, just saying like they really think they
Speaker 1: have something here. They've started some young cornerbacks and done
Speaker 1: well with it. Anthony Brown was like a sixth rounder
Speaker 1: who started out a or he's the guy Booth will
Speaker 1: be depth. I think that's why Jerry Jones said that.
Speaker 1: Then again, Jerry Jones kind of like Sean Payton, not
Speaker 1: always the most reliable narrator of his own team, like
Speaker 1: if they picked up a cornerback, but good call getting
Speaker 1: that bland news out there. I mean, that's huge, a
Speaker 1: pro Bowler getting foot surgery. It's I think it's been
Speaker 1: a rough camp for the Cowboys in general, just everything
Speaker 1: going on. Here's one sign that it was rough, not
Speaker 1: just that Trey Lance through five interceptions in that game.
Speaker 1: They've added three defensive linemen in the last week or
Speaker 1: two that will make their team. I think, Yeah, Linval Joseph,
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips they traded for, and then Carl Lawson. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know if he's gonna make their team,
Speaker 1: but I would guess. It's just kind of like a
Speaker 1: sign that, like, things aren't going as planned when you're
Speaker 1: signing three guys who are gonna have roles for you
Speaker 1: and in mid to late August, you.
Speaker 3: Know well, I mean we know that they had a
Speaker 3: quiet offseason. They let some talent leave and they didn't
Speaker 3: really replace it. And it's almost says that they're like, well,
Speaker 3: let's see what we have and then if we don't
Speaker 3: like what we have, we'll just go get some veterans
Speaker 3: at the last minute. Because that's exactly what Linval Joseph was.
Speaker 3: That's what he was with the Eagles last year. It
Speaker 3: is the same thing. It's just like, hey, we need
Speaker 3: some depth. We lost some guys. We need some help.
Speaker 3: Let's go sign this guy now.
Speaker 1: In fairness, like that can work. I just pointed out
Speaker 1: how the Ravens make it work. So yeah, I'll give
Speaker 1: them Cowboys a benefit of doubt. They have been excellent
Speaker 1: at drafting and spotting cornerbacks and offensive linemen. But in
Speaker 1: this case, it's came and Carson at cornerback. That yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna play a big role. We'll be watching him
Speaker 1: week one with Tom Brady as the announcer against the Browns.
Speaker 1: Like I think this kid is starting. Another player that
Speaker 1: should be starting Giants their center John Michael Schmidt. He
Speaker 1: got hurt in their final preseason game. The offensive line
Speaker 1: for the Giants has not played together one single time
Speaker 1: in training camp or the preseason. That seems bad. And
Speaker 1: Evan Neil, who was their top ten pick, who I
Speaker 1: do not think would make this team necessarily if he
Speaker 1: wasn't a top ten pick, was playing a bunch in
Speaker 1: this game and then got hurt again. He's a backup now.
Speaker 1: But it's it's just kind of a bummer. And I've
Speaker 1: been hoping this offensive line can just produce decent offense.
Speaker 1: I think it is going to be better, but they
Speaker 1: haven't been totally healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to quote Pete Campbell from the great series mad Men,
Speaker 3: not great, Bob not great with this team right now
Speaker 3: on the offensive line, I look anytime, and this is
Speaker 3: no shot at him directly or intentionally, but anytime Jerana
Speaker 3: Iluminor is your starting right tackle and your first round
Speaker 3: pick can't beat him out, that's a concerning sign.
Speaker 1: Oh, I will take offense here. First of all, another
Speaker 1: great International Pathway Program story. You may think I'm just
Speaker 1: a fan of the ipp players.
Speaker 4: I am. It's cool. Yeah, Like our friend Henry Hodgson
Speaker 4: runs this program.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say he runs this program, but he assists
Speaker 1: in this program, and they're finding these guys from all
Speaker 1: over there.
Speaker 4: He's had a good career.
Speaker 1: He was a very useful player for the Patriots, and
Speaker 1: he was playing his best football of his career last
Speaker 1: year for the Raiders. That's an upgrade. He's like a starter.
Speaker 1: He's a big time. He's a starter.
Speaker 3: He's a starter that I don't feel great about, at
Speaker 3: least in the time that I've paid attention to him playing.
Speaker 4: That's what He's a starter.
Speaker 1: That's an upgrade for the Giants, and it's probably better
Speaker 1: than the average start.
Speaker 4: It's a low bar a long time. How dare you
Speaker 4: You're in some life changing money. Be happy for him.
Speaker 1: Names you may know that probably aren't making the Giants.
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson is on the Giants, but I don't think
Speaker 1: for long. And Isaiah Hodgens, who it's like the wide
Speaker 1: receiver to a couple of years ago. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I think the team is deeper, at least
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. But that did not help them necessarily.
Speaker 1: In the joint practice against the Jets, it was a
Speaker 1: lot of thinking and Dunky, not a lot of big
Speaker 1: plays from Daniel Jones. Here was Sauce Gardner after that
Speaker 1: joint practice, asked about Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4: But what was your opinion or her take away on
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones?
Speaker 10: Uh, he's he's He's a good He's a good quarterback,
Speaker 10: you feel me. I thought I was about to pick
Speaker 10: him one today. I had a little cloud rip.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 8: He had looked at the last minute to try to
Speaker 8: throw the check down on one deal. You know, I
Speaker 8: thought I had to pick but he kept it.
Speaker 9: Uh me.
Speaker 8: Man, the competitive periods, it was very competitive. Man, it
Speaker 8: was great, Like I have fun out there today. You know,
Speaker 8: I don't really know what you say?
Speaker 1: Like it really you got to see the facial expression
Speaker 1: of him look off to the PR guy at the end,
Speaker 1: you get me out of here. You can just hear
Speaker 1: whatever he was gonna say going through his head and
Speaker 1: then he sort of laughs and he's like, Oh, I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that, but I should say something. And I
Speaker 1: love Sauce Gardner because he keeps it real. But he
Speaker 1: has learned a thing or two. I think actually two
Speaker 1: years ago that might have gone differently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably would have buried Daniel Jones. It has
Speaker 3: not been a fun preseason for him, a fun camp
Speaker 3: for him, and he's coming off of injury and I
Speaker 3: try to give him a ton of grace, but he's
Speaker 3: also got a lot of pressure because of the contract
Speaker 3: and it just doesn't look good right now. So for Sauce,
Speaker 3: a guy who would capitalize on Daniel jones struggles.
Speaker 2: What is he gonna say? Right?
Speaker 3: He looked great, He really challenged me. It was competitive.
Speaker 3: It's a good way, good job, Sauce.
Speaker 1: Finally, the commander is the team that in front of
Speaker 1: me is dementing in This could end up looking bad.
Speaker 1: A victory over the Patriots, you know, stop Joe Milton
Speaker 1: on a key fourth down. The preseason is nearly over
Speaker 1: as we're taping this exciting what's happening in Commanders.
Speaker 4: You want to know why?
Speaker 1: How bad an owner Dan Snyder is that even like
Speaker 1: the thing that he did to try to curry favor
Speaker 1: and to try to do the right thing for once,
Speaker 1: which was honor Sean Taylor, he Dan Snyder did such
Speaker 1: a bad job at that that the statue, if you
Speaker 1: want to call it a statue of Sean Taylor that
Speaker 1: he made, the remembrance that they had of him that
Speaker 1: they put up, feels so subpar that the new ownership,
Speaker 1: run by Josh Harrish, Josh Harris, is actually replacing that statue.
Speaker 4: I've never heard of such a thing.
Speaker 1: They're replacing the Sean Taylor statue that went up only
Speaker 1: two years ago, and it's gonna be one of the
Speaker 1: most popular things Josh Harris has ever done in his
Speaker 1: life coming in, I guess a distant second to just
Speaker 1: buying this team and taking it away from Dan Snyder,
Speaker 1: which made not only the Commanders fans happy, but like
Speaker 1: anyone involved with the NFL happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the bar was so low that anybody
Speaker 3: with you know, just a grip on reality is going
Speaker 3: to come in and go, all right, I'll do this.
Speaker 3: I'll fix this. I'll fix this. I'll fix the Sean
Speaker 3: Taylor statue. I'll be the most love guy in town.
Speaker 3: Worst second worst statue I think I've seen made outside
Speaker 3: of what is it the Ronaldo statue?
Speaker 2: That one was just horrible.
Speaker 3: It was just like a bust. I don't think it's
Speaker 3: a full statue. That Sean Taylor one was also very bad.
Speaker 1: I pointed out, I don't like that the Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: statue says the sheriff on it.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Outside, lookas oil Field, I was like, no one called
Speaker 1: him the sheriff until John Gruden called him the sheriff
Speaker 1: and had Monday Night Football make graphics about it, like
Speaker 1: ten twelve years into his career, and no one called
Speaker 1: him that that much nationally after that.
Speaker 4: And you're gonna make at the statue.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a product of our social media age. Greg,
Speaker 3: We're way off topic.
Speaker 4: Commanders.
Speaker 1: Look, they didn't play anyone in this game. I think
Speaker 1: people thought when they traded Jahan Dotson, oh they got
Speaker 1: this third round pick Luke McCaffrey, he'd be the third receiver,
Speaker 1: but the reports there he has not really been in
Speaker 1: the mix, was a little injured, hasn't made much of
Speaker 1: a big impact, so they could be looking for different
Speaker 1: wide receivers. But it's Diami Brown and a load of
Speaker 1: how do you say its Alamide Alamide Zakis.
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 4: I like the presence of Jayden Daniels on the sideline.
Speaker 1: Just doing the interview with Melissa Stark, I was just like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to enjoy this guy's presence for the next
Speaker 1: fifteen years.
Speaker 3: I I hopefully, Yeah, I hope his career goes that
Speaker 3: long because he's off to a hot start and he's
Speaker 3: just a fun guy to watch and I can't wait
Speaker 3: to see him grow into that role with the team.
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like he's already pretty built for
Speaker 3: it after coming off of a Heisman Trophy winning season.
Speaker 3: But obviously the NFL is the next level up, so
Speaker 3: let's make these games count and really start to test him.
Speaker 2: Because excited to see what he can do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Commanders their first game, I think it's against the Bucks,
Speaker 1: Like they're one of the teams I want to see
Speaker 1: the most in week one, just because I just want
Speaker 1: to see what this all looks like.
Speaker 4: I really have no idea on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting.
Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna take one more break and we
Speaker 1: will wrap up notes on all thirty two teams with
Speaker 1: the last three divisions done with the preseason. Yes, back
Speaker 1: on NFL Daily. I wish we had a quarterback battle
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. That would have been more fun to talk about.
Speaker 4: But we don't.
Speaker 2: I a football gods, they took it from us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do have a wide receiver injury to talk about.
Speaker 1: That's not excited. Purple Daily is a podcast I listened to.
Speaker 1: Judd Zilga does a great job on that. He said
Speaker 1: something which surprised me, which is that it was unclear
Speaker 1: if Jordan Addison would be ready for Week one. That
Speaker 1: he's been out here for a little bit and they're
Speaker 1: gonna be careful with him coming back. We'll see a
Speaker 1: lot of these injuries. They don't have to put a report.
Speaker 1: You don't really know, but it's just something to keep
Speaker 1: an eye. I think they're deeper at receiver than people realize.
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Naylor is gonna be decent player. Tristan
Speaker 1: Jackson's at a great camp. But that ties into another thing.
Speaker 1: He said, just kind of summarizing all of camp that
Speaker 1: he saw so far and even these last couple weeks
Speaker 1: without JJ McCarthy there, that Darnold in practice has just
Speaker 1: been very unpredictable, like a rollercoaster, like it.
Speaker 4: Depends on the day. Sometimes it can look really great.
Speaker 1: Sometimes, especially when there's pressure in his face, you're just
Speaker 1: not sure the decision making process and that that's his career.
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, Sam, I don't think you can
Speaker 3: expect that to change. Yeah, I was gonna say, colored
Speaker 3: me surprised because I'm not. I mean, it's Sam's career
Speaker 3: in a nutshell, so that's kind of a bummer. But
Speaker 3: that's what they got, so here we go.
Speaker 1: But I think the good could be really good, and
Speaker 1: I think the team around him being really good could
Speaker 1: be enough in a different sort of Jacoby Brissett and
Speaker 1: Evelynd sort of way. Maybe he's not even at that
Speaker 1: that level, but that if the team around him is
Speaker 1: even better that it can lift him up. I think
Speaker 1: that's possible. Keep an eye on them, possibly making a
Speaker 1: couple of trades here. Lewis scene is a high draft
Speaker 1: pick that you know they just traded. Andrew Booth seen
Speaker 1: as another guy, first round pick from that same draft.
Speaker 1: It was Quss He's first draft. He could be done there.
Speaker 1: Caleb Evans might be a guy who's played for them
Speaker 1: that could get traded.
Speaker 4: Just there's a couple of names there. The Lions.
Speaker 1: Nick, you were you were thrilled to watch Jake Bates
Speaker 1: go through the motions on a kick for the first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've talked at length about how his UFL
Speaker 3: career has propelled him to the NFL, and he's hitting bombs.
Speaker 3: He had a field goal at that in this game
Speaker 3: where you could tell he was like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: this is routine, I'm gonna hit it, and he just
Speaker 3: didn't strike it well and it just went wide right,
Speaker 3: and he immediately just went up to his teammates. He's like,
Speaker 3: I screwed that one up. I'm sorry, guys. I was
Speaker 3: just like, oh, he is human, all right.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that, because, I mean, I've
Speaker 1: got a lot of stock in on Jake Bates. We
Speaker 1: don't even know for sure if they don't pick and
Speaker 1: they could still pick up another veteran kicker. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I think it's going to be Jake Bates.
Speaker 1: I do think they're going to pick up a wide
Speaker 1: receiver right now. Colton Pouncy on the Athletic wrote wide
Speaker 1: receiver four for them might be Isaiah Williams, who is
Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie free agent. So just rather thin there
Speaker 1: even at the wide receiver three position. It's not great.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Bears. The Bears traded a couple
Speaker 1: sixth round picks. One was a pick swap, one was
Speaker 1: a straight sixth. The straight six goes to the Seahawks
Speaker 1: for edge Darryl Taylor, and the Browns send them defensive
Speaker 1: tackle Chris Williams. Any thoughts on just them being so
Speaker 1: active here trading six round picks before the start of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 3: I think they're trying to bolster the back end, at
Speaker 3: least of the defensive tackle group by going to a
Speaker 3: team that has this super deep defensive tackle and needed
Speaker 3: to move a player. The Darryl Taylor thing, I think
Speaker 3: I liked more just because I think he'll be in
Speaker 3: a better position to make an impact. But it's again,
Speaker 3: it's a rotational depth and I think that's what Eberflus
Speaker 3: is gonna want to do with this defense, so why
Speaker 3: not stock it up with some players they liked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just tells me, like how big this year is.
Speaker 1: It's I know, it's not that aggressive. There's sixth round
Speaker 1: picks or even just a pick swap, but hard knocks.
Speaker 1: You do kind of think about that. This is Ibriel
Speaker 1: Flus's third year here in polls, like they need Ryan
Speaker 1: Poles their gym, they need some proof of concept. And
Speaker 1: so these are the types of moves I think you
Speaker 1: make in a year three that like we're ready to
Speaker 1: win now, Like we don't feel comfortable with the depth
Speaker 1: they had, And yeah, Chris Williams was a guy I
Speaker 1: believe they had some familiarity with from a previous stop
Speaker 1: ebra Flus did in Indianapolis, so he knows the player.
Speaker 1: Green Bay is looking for a backup quarterback. That's another
Speaker 1: team that could look for one of these veterans that
Speaker 1: are out there. As much as I love me some
Speaker 1: Michael Pratt, I don't know who. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they could feel that comfortable with him or Sean Clifford
Speaker 1: week one.
Speaker 4: They kind of need a veteran.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think if they choose two. It's Clifford
Speaker 3: and Bumber for us, you know, Pratt fans and everything.
Speaker 3: But I think they choose Clifford. They'll probably be in
Speaker 3: the market. It's just you can't go into a season
Speaker 3: with high expectations without some sort of like semi reliable backup.
Speaker 3: And I don't think either of those guys is right now.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, they did it the whole seat.
Speaker 1: They did it last year with Clifford, so I guess
Speaker 1: they could do it again. It's possible, but he really struggled.
Speaker 1: Maybe they only carry one quarterback I think as possible,
Speaker 1: and just see if both those guys slip through waivers.
Speaker 1: They also don't have a kicker. It's Anders Carlson versus
Speaker 1: Greg Joe stuff. And everyone's been losing apparently. And Marshaw
Speaker 1: Lloyd and AJ Dillon, their backup running backs, have both
Speaker 1: been out for at least a week, two weeks in
Speaker 1: Marshaon Lloyd's case, so they might need some help in
Speaker 1: terms of just some running back depth if they don't
Speaker 1: get back. Let's talk something in car Let's move to
Speaker 1: the NFC South about Bryce Young. Did you get a chance,
Speaker 1: Nick to see any Bryce Young highlights because Bryce Young
Speaker 1: played a football game this week and he looked.
Speaker 4: Pretty good at it.
Speaker 2: All right, I see what you wrote in the notes.
Speaker 3: So you described it stick play, rolling left improv to
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson, Hey man, look, this is why he got
Speaker 3: drafted where he did. I mean, he's a playmaker. He's
Speaker 3: a shorter guy, but he's a playmaker, and you get
Speaker 3: him out of the Poet's probably where he's gonna thrive.
Speaker 3: They were so lost last year that any sort of
Speaker 3: improvement is going to make me excited about them. Not
Speaker 3: from a team perspective, but just I want to see
Speaker 3: Bryce make some strides because you don't want to see
Speaker 3: the number one overall pick wasted, especially when it was
Speaker 3: a pick that they acquired by trading a pick that
Speaker 3: ended up being Kayleb Williams. Like that could be massive
Speaker 3: egg on their faces. This doesn't work out, So all right, Bryce,
Speaker 3: let's figure it out. Let's do some things like this.
Speaker 3: I want to see highlights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he only played one drive. It was a
Speaker 1: touchdown drive. He was very clean on it. It was
Speaker 1: against the Bill's backup, so it's another one of those situations.
Speaker 1: But again, rolling left, improvising, showing a little bit of
Speaker 1: creativity and arm strength actually getting it to Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 1: Chuba Hubbard started that game, and the thing that really
Speaker 1: got me is I'm watching this drive and I'm like, wait, Jordan.
Speaker 4: Matthews just caught a pass. Wait, Jordan Matthews just cut
Speaker 4: another pass and it's a touchdown. Like that, Jordan Matthews.
Speaker 1: And yes, Jordan Matthews is converted to tight end and
Speaker 1: he caught some passes for the Panther. He was playing
Speaker 1: first string because they've got so many injuries there. They
Speaker 1: had two tight ends out there. Okay, I like it.
Speaker 3: They have two converted tight ends on that team, Gregs.
Speaker 3: They also have Felipe Franks on that roster. Okay, converted
Speaker 3: tight ends.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's making it.
Speaker 1: This team is thin in a few places, insanely thin
Speaker 1: edge after Gedevian Clowney, It's crazy. I think their defense
Speaker 1: could be a bit of a mess. Harris Marshall is
Speaker 1: getting shopped for Joseph Person of the Athletics, so that's
Speaker 1: a wide receiver that could be available. He actually made
Speaker 1: some They did the thing where they tried to showcase
Speaker 1: him in the preseason, and it kind of worked because
Speaker 1: he had a bunch of plays in the preseason. So
Speaker 1: I bet someone will give up something for a second
Speaker 1: round pick from a few years ago, but not much.
Speaker 1: Whenever you're trading these guys, it's kind of like cutting them.
Speaker 1: You're going to get a Day three pick at best.
Speaker 4: For the Bucks. Let's go to Tampa.
Speaker 1: Dalen McMillan had a crazy highlight from Baker Mayfield that
Speaker 1: was just awesome. He looks like the wide receiver three
Speaker 1: for this team over Trey Palmer.
Speaker 2: That's kind of.
Speaker 3: Crazy because they were pretty high on Trey Palmer last year.
Speaker 3: If anything, I like the depth of this group. I
Speaker 3: don't know how it's going to play out without Dave
Speaker 3: Canal's calling the plays we'll see, But I mean, Godwin, McMillan, Evans,
Speaker 3: Palmer stowing shepherds on this roster. I kind of like
Speaker 3: this group. And if you get you know, that type
Speaker 3: of production from a rookie, good on you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the contrarian in me, yeah,
Speaker 1: Dan Dan hanss of course. My friend always would call
Speaker 1: me a contrarian, and i'd push back against that. You're
Speaker 1: in a tough spot because if you're saying you're not
Speaker 1: a contrarian.
Speaker 2: You're a contrarian.
Speaker 1: And I think like the part of me that's looking
Speaker 1: for stories people aren't talking about. Let's put it that
Speaker 1: way with the Bucks is like, I've gotten excited about
Speaker 1: this this Bucks team.
Speaker 4: I think they could be kind of frisky.
Speaker 1: I'm into that Week one game against the Commander just
Speaker 1: because I'm like, what is what are these teams going
Speaker 1: to look like?
Speaker 4: Everyone's a mystery going into Week one.
Speaker 1: That especially includes the Falcons who didn't play any other
Speaker 1: starters at all in the preseason, so not a lot
Speaker 1: to talk about there. Kevin King, we talked about a
Speaker 1: nice story. After being away from football for a couple
Speaker 1: of years. It looks like he's really going to make
Speaker 1: this team. Ray Ray McLeod is probably their third wide
Speaker 1: receiver and I didn't realize he had solidified that, but
Speaker 1: that seems to be the case. And Taylor Heineke another
Speaker 1: quarterback that could be traded. I would think he'd be
Speaker 1: high on the list of these quarterbacks for teams that
Speaker 1: are looking for just someone to step in like Taylor
Speaker 1: Heineke and a Matt Lafleur offense. Sure, why not, Like,
Speaker 1: let's put him in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, he's a little too wild. I
Speaker 3: think for a min at the floor offense might drive
Speaker 3: madd insane on the sidelines. But he'll get a look
Speaker 3: somewhere because of his experience, not because of the way
Speaker 3: he's played this preseason Chargers.
Speaker 4: He was a little better after that first game. Heinekey,
Speaker 4: but we've seen it. We've seen him play a lot
Speaker 4: at the NFL level. Like we know who he is.
Speaker 1: He can be a backup at least better than some
Speaker 1: of these backups out there. The Saints played on Sunday.
Speaker 1: There was a report, I believe from SI dot com
Speaker 1: John Hendrix. I hope I'm getting that right that they're
Speaker 1: looking for tackles. Not a surprise. They should have been
Speaker 1: looking for the all offseason. In related news, Trevor Penning
Speaker 1: struggled on Sunday. His coach said that he's slightly ahead
Speaker 1: in a competition for the starting job. Police Fujaga was
Speaker 1: playing in this game. I don't know what you want
Speaker 1: to say about the Saints. Tell me something.
Speaker 3: I don't really have a lot to say that's very
Speaker 3: positive because of what you just described. I mean, you
Speaker 3: got Eric mccoyit center you got Caesar Ruiz a guard,
Speaker 3: and then what Patrick Lucas, you know, came over from
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, if the offensive line, look, you
Speaker 3: know me football purist, traditionalist.
Speaker 2: It starts in the trenches.
Speaker 3: And if you're worried about tackles in week three of
Speaker 3: the preseason, your head had toward an ugly year, at
Speaker 3: least somewhat ugly. So I don't know if there's not
Speaker 3: gonna be a magic bullet that's just going to fix this.
Speaker 3: Trevor Penning has struggled since he entered the league. That's
Speaker 3: disconcerting for me because I was really hoping that this
Speaker 3: would be the year that he would actually start to
Speaker 3: figure it out because they need him, and if he's
Speaker 3: not doing well, just doesn't bode well for what your
Speaker 3: offense is going to look like, especially an offense that
Speaker 3: loved to just lean on Alvin Kamara until he was
Speaker 3: no longer available last year. Do that or Derek Carr
Speaker 3: just throwing down the sideline a At Parry all game right.
Speaker 1: And at Perry had a ton of drops. I don't
Speaker 1: think at Perry actually is in the top four receivers
Speaker 1: for this team based on him playing late into this game.
Speaker 1: Sedgic Wilson is the three there. They're thin, Rashik chahit
Speaker 1: hasn't been that healthy and on the field I do
Speaker 1: have some fun stuff for them. One Juwan Johnson was back.
Speaker 1: He had a really he had a serious injury, had
Speaker 1: a surgery that he was coming back from and he's
Speaker 1: healthy enough to play, so that's a good sign for him.
Speaker 1: Number two, don't cut Charlie Smith Saints. And if you
Speaker 1: don't know who Charlie Smith is, he's another ipp guy.
Speaker 1: He's from Ireland. He had never kicked a freaking football
Speaker 1: in his life until I believe a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: maybe it was only a year ago. It's insane and
Speaker 1: there's video of him hitting a sixty five yarder at practice.
Speaker 1: You better not cut him because some other team might
Speaker 1: actually pick up Charlie Smith and you don't want to
Speaker 1: lose him. He's going to be a folk hero in Ireland.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: He won't be as big a folk hero though as
Speaker 1: Spencer freaking Rattler who came in here again.
Speaker 4: He was pushing the agenda on Sunday. Let's watch one
Speaker 4: of his dimes, Jacobson.
Speaker 6: That's setting up all the partners side Pinet's gold for
Speaker 6: cold on that time, Brown with the score, had a
Speaker 6: perfect row with the corner. Fantastic ball.
Speaker 9: It's a little bit of a switch route from a
Speaker 9: slot receiver. Rattler puts it right on it. So route
Speaker 9: by Sank Brown. Great ball by Rattler, good connection for
Speaker 9: the Saints, ending.
Speaker 6: In a touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I love a good slot fade that's put on target.
Speaker 2: M It gets me going.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was no window there. He came in,
Speaker 1: He sparked this offense. He played the second and fourth
Speaker 1: quarters of this game. Jay Kanner played the first and
Speaker 1: third and Rattler just looked better. And don't you know
Speaker 1: you did it, Dennis Allen. You let Rattler have some
Speaker 1: moments in front of the home crowd.
Speaker 4: That was enough.
Speaker 1: That was enough for me for him to be the backup.
Speaker 1: And if he's not the backup, it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 1: He's the guy that fans are going to be calling
Speaker 1: for if things go south because he is not a
Speaker 1: normal fifth round pick. He is talented and I know
Speaker 1: he had a bad second week of the preseason, but
Speaker 1: he had a great third week. That's what we're focused on.
Speaker 1: We've got the agenda to keep in mind.
Speaker 2: I like this kid.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't need to see him start that
Speaker 1: many games, but maybe by like week fifteen, if they're
Speaker 1: not in the playoff picture, week six times, god, something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: I'm envisioning that scenario and what it means for the
Speaker 3: future of the Saints, which is like a coaching change
Speaker 3: in the end of the Derek Carr era.
Speaker 1: And oh god, he's a talented young player. So it
Speaker 1: was nice to see it because there was a couple
Speaker 1: of really good plays in there and in this preseason.
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap up with the AFC rather the
Speaker 1: NFC West couple just tough items for the Cardinals. Z
Speaker 1: Jones suspended five games for violating the Personal Conduct Policy,
Speaker 1: and then Darius Robinson, their first round pick, who was
Speaker 1: playing a position that was already thin, already a little
Speaker 1: injured on the edge for the Cardinals, could be hitting
Speaker 1: ir to start the year after suffering an injury. Desmond
Speaker 1: Ritter also suffered a concussion in their preseason game. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna even make the team. That injury, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: is lesser than two other guys who are going to
Speaker 1: play big roles for them.
Speaker 3: So this is a team that, like, because they didn't
Speaker 3: have Kyla last year, I'm just already thinking, like, well,
Speaker 3: they should be better this year. You're two Jonathan Gannon,
Speaker 3: but not a couple of good news items for them
Speaker 3: going into the dead week before the regular season starts. Luckily,
Speaker 3: to fifty three men roster, you'll find ways to try
Speaker 3: to replace some of those things, but it's not good.
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a bummer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Robinson kind of a tweener, but should have been
Speaker 1: a good run stopper at the very least. And they're
Speaker 1: just missing talent. And then they've lost a couple big
Speaker 1: players b j O Jalari and then Darius Robinson.
Speaker 4: So that's the thing.
Speaker 1: You never know which teams are gonna get the injury,
Speaker 1: but but sometimes it's the really bad teams. It just
Speaker 1: like makes the bad teams worse, which is a bummer
Speaker 1: if you're the Cardinals. The most surprising news I think
Speaker 1: I saw on Sunday was about the rams in Ernest Jones.
Speaker 1: I want to use the wording of our colleague Jordan
Speaker 1: rod Rieg, who had this from a source, the Ernest
Speaker 1: situation when it when it first came out, she wrote,
Speaker 1: they've let their starting at inside linebacker and team captain
Speaker 1: Ernest Jones know they are open to trading him.
Speaker 4: Her source.
Speaker 1: Jones has started since his rookie year, but now enters
Speaker 1: his fourth season without a contract extension. So I saw it,
Speaker 1: you know set in one place is that like Ernest
Speaker 1: Jones can seek a trade. That almost makes it sound
Speaker 1: like Ernest Jones asked to seek a trade and Jordan
Speaker 1: and she followed up later in the day that there's
Speaker 1: a difference between you know, team making it known there's
Speaker 1: they're open to the possibility to trade in him or
Speaker 1: the player camp asking Ernest Jones came out after It's like,
Speaker 1: I didn't ask to seek a trade, and so I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about what's going on here. I didn't
Speaker 1: ask Jordan, like specifically if she knew anything. That gotta
Speaker 1: tell me if it's confidential anyways, But you only do
Speaker 1: this if you're about to bench the guy. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: is surprise, Which is surprising because he's a team captain,
Speaker 1: played a big role for them, but they they must
Speaker 1: love this kid. Omar Spates. I didn't know who Omar's
Speaker 1: Spates was until a week ago, but Lesneid talked him
Speaker 1: up as he's definitely making the team, and the only
Speaker 1: thing that makes any sense is they're trying to trade
Speaker 1: him because they don't want to bench their team captain.
Speaker 1: Because if you're not benching him, why would you go
Speaker 1: through all this and annoy everyone. I'm sure that some
Speaker 1: members of the team are going to be annoyed by this,
Speaker 1: not just Gems.
Speaker 3: I think it would be a combination of spates rising
Speaker 3: and proving that hey, maybe I'm the better option, and
Speaker 3: also a change of defensive coordinator. You know, Rahiem Morre
Speaker 3: is not there anymore, and sometimes some guys are just
Speaker 3: not their guys they were the previous coordinators guys, and
Speaker 3: that just might be what it is. It just doesn't
Speaker 3: fit as well. We don't know right now. We don't know,
Speaker 3: but it's probably a combination of the two. And I
Speaker 3: think you're right with we're going to trade him because
Speaker 3: we don't want to bench team captain.
Speaker 4: Right and Shula's been there, but you're right, it is different.
Speaker 1: He's in charge and he was just a position coach before,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't Ernest Jones' position coach.
Speaker 4: So a lot of weird stuff with the Rams.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're entering the season the way they
Speaker 1: would want to with Nikua missing so much time. Alerc Jackson,
Speaker 1: their starting left tackle, has been suspended two games that
Speaker 1: came out since we last talked. They have a lot
Speaker 1: of injury concerns their right tackle, Rob Havenstein, their left
Speaker 1: guard Jonah Jackson. So that's three fists potentially of your
Speaker 1: offensive line that could be missing week one. And the
Speaker 1: Alerc Jackson news, Like, I don't know if they knew
Speaker 1: that was coming. But he's going to be a free
Speaker 1: agent too, So they've just kind of had a lot.
Speaker 1: That was a personal conduct vote conduct violation by Alerc Jackson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a number of suspensions on Friday one,
Speaker 3: including the rare time serve. So you're suspended, but you
Speaker 3: already served it because you're on the exemp list last year.
Speaker 3: But as it pertains to this one specifically, and you
Speaker 3: add in the whole Matt Stafford, like we were concerned
Speaker 3: about his health as of like a week ago, like
Speaker 3: not moving with the most momentum of the regular season.
Speaker 1: Least at least he looked better at practice. He seemed
Speaker 1: he seems to be okay, all right. Final two teams
Speaker 1: here forty nine ers, Uh, just wanted to note Ricky Pearsall,
Speaker 1: where is he?
Speaker 8: He?
Speaker 1: He showed up for four or five practices then left,
Speaker 1: like right now, if you're going to play a game,
Speaker 1: Jacob Cowing has got to be ahead of Pearsall in
Speaker 1: the mix. A lot of Jacob Cowing hype rookie under
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent and keep making plays a practice in
Speaker 1: the preseason. Who knows, but yeah, Pearsall hasn't stepped up.
Speaker 1: I was watching their preseason game a little bit and
Speaker 1: the hops George Kittle showed on a catch over the
Speaker 1: middle because they played their starters. Perty was out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, he looked that looked awesome. I remember the
Speaker 1: George Kittle from two years ago when he kind of
Speaker 1: looked broken. He was playing hurt for two straight seasons,
Speaker 1: and then he looked better last year and he looks
Speaker 1: even better now.
Speaker 4: So that's just something I.
Speaker 5: Want to say.
Speaker 3: He lost thirty pounds this offseason because of the injury
Speaker 3: he was a core muscle injury or whatever it was,
Speaker 3: and he lost a ton of weight.
Speaker 2: Maybe he just feels more lighter on his feet.
Speaker 1: Well he I think he added most of it back
Speaker 1: or all of it back because he wanted to be
Speaker 1: able to block and everything. But yeah, he seems he
Speaker 1: seems healthy. And in that game, Leonard Floyd and you
Speaker 1: tur Grosmato's left with injuries. Unclear how serious they are,
Speaker 1: but they're both key players at a pretty thin position.
Speaker 1: They have a third round rookie, Dominic Pooney who's gonna
Speaker 1: start at guard, and the people the tape heads like
Speaker 1: Brandon Thorn out there.
Speaker 2: He looks good. He looks good.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that cut up that
Speaker 3: I think Thorn put out where he essentially gets beat
Speaker 3: off the first like initial step and then is able
Speaker 3: to reset and swivel and re engage. He basically lost
Speaker 3: his defensive line when to get the offensive line of
Speaker 3: his hands off. We're not gonna get too deep in
Speaker 3: the weeds here, but he gets his hands knocked off
Speaker 3: and is able to reset at an angle, re engage
Speaker 3: and completely shield the guy off to where the quarterback
Speaker 3: never even had to worry about it.
Speaker 2: Usually that's a blowby, and that's a sack or a pressure.
Speaker 2: Not with him, though he looks good.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, and they could use an upgrade in talent
Speaker 1: in terms of their offensive line. Like they get by
Speaker 1: but they might actually might have two new starting guards
Speaker 1: this year, Brandon Allen and Joshua Dobbs. It's the battle
Speaker 1: for the backup quarterback. It's actually unclear who's gonna win it.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna keep both. They've been burned before
Speaker 1: by not having a bunch of quarterbacks, but it's not
Speaker 1: clear that josh Dobbs is the backup overall, and they
Speaker 1: both have had moments. Whu Funga might start the season
Speaker 1: Tala Noah Hufunga on the pup list and he has
Speaker 1: not practiced yet, so that's just something to watch with
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. And then finally the Seahawks, they
Speaker 1: had an injury in their final preseason game. Gino Smith
Speaker 1: played one drive and had like three incredible dimes on
Speaker 1: the drive to Jackson Smith and Jigba and DK Metcalf.
Speaker 1: So all the hype that he got in the training
Speaker 1: camp was seen by myself in this offense.
Speaker 4: That was exciting.
Speaker 1: And they also trade did a cornerback, Michael Jackson for
Speaker 1: a seventh round linebacker from the Titans. Michael barrett I
Speaker 1: only point that out because their off ball linebacker positions
Speaker 1: banged up and reportedly hasn't looked great in camp, so
Speaker 1: that shows a little bit of desperation that they're trying
Speaker 1: to add to that position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a lot of depth there.
Speaker 3: If you just look at the at the chart right now,
Speaker 3: you know, you let Jordan Brooks go and it just
Speaker 3: seems like, eh, yeah, let's add some depth here.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get another body in here that we think
Speaker 2: is a decent player.
Speaker 1: Right They brought in Tyrol Dotson from Buffalo, who's who's
Speaker 1: barely played in his career. And then who was the
Speaker 1: other linebacker that they brought in, Jerome Baker, who's rarely
Speaker 1: healthy and hasn't been healthy there. And so that's that's
Speaker 1: that's their starters right now. That's a key position in
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's defense too, if you think about obviously his
Speaker 1: track records, so that that's probably keeping him up at night.
Speaker 1: I have to admit that I had dream. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say it kept me up at night, but it was
Speaker 1: part of the dream that the Seahawks offensive line was
Speaker 1: just awful.
Speaker 4: They couldn't protect genos.
Speaker 2: Oh, even in your dreams, you're worried about Genosmith's future.
Speaker 1: I guess I mean a lot of things happen in
Speaker 1: my dreams. Sometimes there's just like a huge wave, you know,
Speaker 1: from the ocean. It's coming at me, and it's just
Speaker 1: it's gonna crash.
Speaker 2: At something and you can't run.
Speaker 1: Just no, you're just there. You're just waiting for it,
Speaker 1: and you're just prepping. You're just getting ready. It's like
Speaker 1: a tsunami. You're not gonna get out of the way
Speaker 1: of it. What does that wave stand for?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Who should you, guys, stilize the dreams here on NFL Daily.
Speaker 3: You have a whole show.
Speaker 4: Yeah you could.
Speaker 1: You could let me know at a NFL Daily podcast
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3: I mean, I had a dream the other night that
Speaker 3: I was playing high school football and we're in the
Speaker 3: state championship, but I couldn't get my equipment or get
Speaker 3: to the bus on time. And it was a long
Speaker 3: dream and it was very stressful, and I woke up
Speaker 3: very upset.
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't a bad dream. Shooky doing these
Speaker 1: fine preseason games with you. It was fun doing these
Speaker 1: Sunday night shows during the preseason. No more games to recap,
Speaker 1: but we will have a fun week last week before
Speaker 1: really our regular week one season schedule. Start to have
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybond and Cynthia Frielan in the studio to do
Speaker 1: some power rankings on our next show, and shook, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was a pleasure. I can't wait un till we're
Speaker 1: doing the real thing Sunday night, week one, September eighth.
Speaker 1: I will see you then, buddy, Until then, the next
Speaker 1: time