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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never skip arm day.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal. At least that's true for one of

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Speaker 1: the two of us, Nick shook in the building for

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Speaker 1: the final time on a preseason Sunday night taping, getting

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Speaker 1: it to your ears on a Monday morning. This was fun,

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Speaker 1: this these three weeks together, Nick, But I'm ready for

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Speaker 1: the real stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's always great to spend time talking football

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Speaker 3: with you, Greg, of course, but I think we're both

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Speaker 3: ready for the games to count and the games to matter,

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Speaker 3: and for us to not have to dig down to

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Speaker 3: the bottom third of the roster to clean some insights

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Speaker 3: from these games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not a hot take, you know.

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Speaker 1: Our boss's boss's bosses bosses boss's boss Roger Goodell agrees

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Speaker 1: with us. I mean, he's been trying to get rid

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Speaker 1: of this third preseason game and a broadcaster I was

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Speaker 1: talking to this or texting with this week and said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there is literally no lower form of sports entertainment. Then

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Speaker 1: I think the live third preseason game for most teams,

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Speaker 1: and I say most, Nick, because not all. We just

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Speaker 1: watched the Patriots and the Washington Commanders play on Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night football and Washington didn't even play their backups. They

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Speaker 1: were going straight to the third string. But we did

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Speaker 1: get some spicy Drake made Jacoby Brissett quarterback battle. I'm

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Speaker 1: not just leading with this because you know I grew

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Speaker 1: up in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 3: Sure is the most Sure because I feel like there's

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Speaker 3: a little bit of Patriots background here.

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Speaker 2: I'm just messing with you.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it just happened. We've been kind of

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Speaker 1: leading with the games that just happened, but this one,

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Speaker 1: Come on, this was the most relevant I think game

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Speaker 1: result anything that really happened in this preseason week. Because

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Speaker 1: I've been banging this drum that the more the coaches talk,

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Speaker 1: the more the practice reports come out, the more I

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Speaker 1: think Drake May has a chance to start Week one.

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Speaker 1: And then he comes out after Jacoby Brissett gets a

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Speaker 1: shoulder injury. Brissett was only gonna to play one or

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Speaker 1: two series anyways, but he gets pile drive because of

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman mishap, and I'll get to that in

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Speaker 1: a bit. Drake May comes out there and he makes

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Speaker 1: about three to four plays on a touchdown drive immediately

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Speaker 1: that make you think, Wow, this is a kid that

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Speaker 1: maybe needs to play right away. Let's listen to his

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Speaker 1: touchdown throw football games.

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Speaker 5: This is pro football pressure against out tackle Kevin Harris

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Speaker 5: to the end zone and in to the touchdown. Kevin

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Speaker 5: Harris made a man miss and the thirty year man

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Speaker 5: at South Carolina takes it to.

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Speaker 6: The in zone.

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Speaker 5: A very nice drive executed by Drake May.

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Speaker 4: That's right, Shoki.

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Speaker 1: Eleven plays eighty eight yards and that touchdown throw might

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Speaker 1: have looked simple relatively was simple, but yeah, the arm

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Speaker 1: strength gets that ball there before the defender who was

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Speaker 1: all over it, and he showed great arm strength Drake

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Speaker 1: May throughout this game, and that's try In particular, I

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Speaker 1: want to point out the scramble he has on third

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Speaker 1: and fourteen to start the drive. It's just not a

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Speaker 1: play that any Patriots quarterback has been able to make

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Speaker 1: for a long time, and Jacoby Brissett would not make

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Speaker 1: that play.

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Speaker 4: It took great athleticism.

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Speaker 1: And then two really nice crossers, one to Jalen Poke,

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Speaker 1: one to di Mario Douglas, both which showed really good

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Speaker 1: pocket feel, really beautiful passes that were kind of next

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Speaker 1: level passes that combined with the touchdown and the two

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Speaker 1: minute drive he ends up having at the end of

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Speaker 1: the half in Girodmeo's comments not only during the week,

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Speaker 1: but also on the sideline to Melissa Stark where he said,

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Speaker 1: all right, Drake came in there and showed me something.

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Speaker 1: He said, this is a competition. Now, Jacoby Brissett isn't

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I think he has a legit chance

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Speaker 1: here and what we'll see in the next couple of

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Speaker 1: days what Gerond Mayo does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit of a twist because we heard

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Speaker 3: Alex Van Pelt talk about Joobe Brissett is basically the

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Speaker 3: starter earlier this week, and obviously that's not the decision

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Speaker 3: that falls on his shoulders, that falls in the head

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Speaker 3: coach more than anything. But then Drake comes out and produces.

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Speaker 3: And this is why you draft a young quarterback. It's

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Speaker 3: not just because your franchise has no hope, but because

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Speaker 3: you want the young horse in the stable who's capable

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Speaker 3: of doing these things. This is the modern quarterback, the

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Speaker 3: athletic quarterback that can extend plays, that has the arm

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Speaker 3: strength to squeeze it into a tight window and then

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Speaker 3: that touchdown.

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Speaker 2: So it's all coming up for them.

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Speaker 3: But it is also against third stringers, so it's like yah,

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Speaker 3: grain of salt. But Greg I will say, I know

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Speaker 3: people have worried about this receiving core in New England

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Speaker 3: for years.

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Speaker 2: I kind of like this top three.

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Speaker 3: I kind of like this group a little bit and

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Speaker 3: call me crazy, but Jalen Polk, I think is going

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Speaker 3: to surprise people. I like the idea of Kendrick Bourne

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Speaker 3: Mario Douglas and Taekwon Thornton's the speedzer that they never

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Speaker 3: really used. If Drake May really has that arm that

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Speaker 3: on that. Maybe this is the start of a new

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Speaker 1: Well he has it, whether he can make the right

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Speaker 1: decisions and be accurate enough. Look, he went thirteen for

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Speaker 1: twenty in this game, one hundred and twenty six yards

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Speaker 1: play at the end of the half taken away that

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Speaker 1: was in the two minute drive. But that two minute

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Speaker 1: drive is where he made another couple nice throws to

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Speaker 1: the outside where he really showed off his arm strength.

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Speaker 1: Poke ends up with two catches thirty three yards. You

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Speaker 1: I did not expect that it's gonna be Thornton, Polk

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Speaker 3: Their Osborne is the savvy one, I think, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: because he was a guy who was underappreciated in his past,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's actually a good fit in that

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Speaker 3: not going to be maybe Polk ends up being that

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Speaker 3: But it's gonna be a committe group whre they're all

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Speaker 3: gonna have to just target one guy. It's just like,

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Speaker 3: all right, let's throw it to this guy here, he

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Speaker 3: can do this, Let's do that. And I like that

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Speaker 3: idea with a Drake may because it's just like a

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Speaker 2: That's good for a team like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Javon Baker had a couple of targets in

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Speaker 4: Loved him too. Don't forget too.

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Speaker 1: I know people if they happen to watch the game,

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Speaker 1: right in the middle of it. Well, yeah, Drake may

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Speaker 1: had a couple bad throws there too, but this offensive

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Speaker 1: line could not have played any worse. It makes you worried,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're a Patriots fan or if you

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Speaker 1: just like seeing decent football, about whether this offense is

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Speaker 1: going to be operable at all. Here's some numbers for you.

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Speaker 1: Eight penalties in the first half by the offensive line

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Speaker 1: that include That did not include the play where Jacoby

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Speaker 1: Brissett got steamrolled because one offensive lineman pulled and ran

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Speaker 1: play we're gonna listen to now, which again was an

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman error.

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Speaker 7: Outside City. So there it goes to shoot kick it all,

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Speaker 7: No big deal, Just go ahead and throw this ball

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Speaker 7: for a first down. What the heck, man, he's on

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Speaker 7: a roll right now, don't Boddy wake him up?

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Speaker 4: So that was starting guard City.

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Speaker 1: So stepping on Drake May's shoe, which flew off before

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Speaker 1: May went kind of three quarters and got a nice

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Speaker 1: it all off, Nick so got hurt late in the

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Speaker 1: first half year. The offensive line, it was a totally

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Speaker 4: Everyone moved around.

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Speaker 1: Suddenly a whe who was at right tackle, it's a

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Speaker 4: They're moving things around.

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Speaker 1: They didn't and whatever they tried out tonight, I do

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Speaker 1: not think that's gonna be the offensive line they tried

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Speaker 1: trying all sorts of new combinations at this point.

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Speaker 4: It's a bit of a disaster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a bad sign when you're trying combinations that

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Speaker 3: the regular season, you kind of want those guys established

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Speaker 3: just shuffling guys around and try them out like it's

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Speaker 2: And you know, I get it.

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Speaker 1: They needed reps and they wanted to try out this

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Speaker 1: put Owenu at right tackle, is not his strongest position.

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Speaker 1: Part of it is they were missing their left tackle,

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Speaker 1: who is now going to be Verdarian Low. So I

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Speaker 1: think that'll settle it if they get him back. But man,

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Speaker 1: I both think Drake May should start, and I both

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a bit of a fiasco for

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Speaker 4: But give me the May chaos versus whatever, the Jacoby chaos.

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Speaker 3: I just it's a departure from what the Patriots were before.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Patriots were a team that would take

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Speaker 3: an offensive lineman that people would scratch their heads and think,

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Speaker 3: why'd you take that guy? And then they would develop

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Speaker 3: him into a stud. And they're just not that team anymore.

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Speaker 3: And if you look at the construction of their top five,

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Speaker 3: Vederian Low City sal like Chuuks of Khora four, who

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Speaker 3: did not have a good time in Pittsburgh before, like

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Speaker 3: these are guys that are not proven at best, and

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Speaker 3: like the cold strange pick. In the past, everybody laughed

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Speaker 3: at it, including the Rams, and then I was like,

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Speaker 3: well trust him. They developed lineman and that you know,

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Speaker 3: he was on pup and everything, but that also hasn't

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Speaker 2: Like, this is not a good situation to put a run.

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Speaker 2: Now they haven't worry about They.

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Speaker 1: Didn't spend anything on the offensive line this off, so

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Speaker 1: that was a mistake. All right, let's move on. We're

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Speaker 1: going to go through all thirty two teams. Most of

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Speaker 1: the teams will be quicker because look, preseason Week three,

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Speaker 1: there weren't a lot of big takeaways from the games themselves,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna mix in some game talk, but mostly

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Speaker 1: just little notes. Some teams aren't going to have much,

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Speaker 1: but we just wanted to get everyone a little bit

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Speaker 1: of news to start your week, just kind of where

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Speaker 1: these teams are at. I'm going to go to the

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Speaker 1: start with the Bills. It looks like Ray Davis Tyron

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Speaker 1: We've talked about the offensive line issues that they've had

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Speaker 3: Let's do it right up the gut in classic Arthur

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Speaker 2: It looked like he came right out of that team,

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase practice. So the holden, I don't know what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine Monday when you start your game prep.

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Speaker 2: How do you just get ready? It wouldn't be me.

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Speaker 1: broke his foot in the pre season finale, so that's tough.

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Speaker 1: I just look at their roster. They're quite thin at

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Speaker 1: running back behind Justice Hill and Derrick Henry, and quite

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Speaker 1: thin at receiver. So they're a team to just watch

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Speaker 1: see what Eric DaCosta does in the next few days.

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Speaker 1: I think they're they're not done picking up some veterans,

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Speaker 1: and that annoy you as a Browns fan. They always

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Speaker 1: pick up someone like this week that'll end up making

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Speaker 1: the key player.

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Speaker 3: They've They've been doing it for years. They've been doing

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Speaker 3: it for years. They did it with a Clowney a

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Speaker 3: few years ago. They do it every year. They get

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Speaker 3: somebody and added to that group, usually on the defensive side.

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Speaker 3: But the downside is Keaton Mitchell being on pup because

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Speaker 3: he was a guy that really popped last year that

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Speaker 3: I thought that could really fill out that room. And

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Speaker 3: if he's not going to be available, then yeah, suddenly

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Speaker 3: you're looking down the list and thinking, all right, we

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Speaker 3: got to find somebody here.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with them.

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Speaker 1: I am excited. I mean, they are playing a football

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Speaker 1: game in ten days. If you're listening to this on Monday,

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Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing. Fortunately, before we take a break,

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Speaker 1: some sad news from the Ravens. Rest in peace to

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Speaker 1: their offense of line coach Joe d Alessandras. He's been

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Speaker 1: their offensive line coach since twenty seventeen. He was with

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Speaker 1: them in training camp, still coaching. He left the team

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Speaker 1: is a few weeks ago now with what John Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: said was an acute illness and the news came out

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Speaker 1: that he passed away. So rest in peace to him,

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Speaker 1: just really well respected guy, had been with the team

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Speaker 1: for for eight years, had a long career before that,

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Speaker 1: beloved by his offensive lineman. And yeah, that's tough for

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. And we're just going to take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: Rest in piece to Joe d alessandras back on NFL

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Speaker 1: Daily hitting notes for every team. And look, it's the

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Speaker 1: third preseason week. Some notes are better than others. I

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Speaker 1: see on our shared doc Nick, you wrote the note,

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Speaker 1: could Tim Boyle beat out Case Keenan?

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Speaker 4: How about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And the reason is is thought.

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Speaker 3: I saw the first Texans preseason game in person in Canada,

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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game, and Case Keenum did not

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Speaker 3: look good. And every Texans game I've seen since then,

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Speaker 3: he does not look very good. He looks old, He

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Speaker 3: looks like somebody who kind of can't do it anymore.

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Speaker 3: Not to say that Tim Boyle is better, but Tim

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Speaker 3: Boyle has looked a little bit better this preseason. And

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Speaker 3: if they're gonna trim that room down, if it was

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Speaker 3: me going off of this tape, not a lot of tape,

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Speaker 3: but this tape, I'm taking Tim Boyle over Case Keenum.

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Speaker 4: That's a hot take.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I'm listening to the other team podcasts like

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL, and they'll be like a couple of

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Speaker 1: them that have needed quarterbacks, be like, couldn't we just

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Speaker 1: get Case Keenum in here, have him be our backup

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Speaker 1: or trade a seventh for Case because they recognize a

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Speaker 1: name and I'm just thinking, like, I mean, he is

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Speaker 1: thirty six years old. These guys don't stay the exact

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Speaker 1: same forever. There's a reason why he's fallen down a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But a beautiful career for Case Keenum if

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Speaker 1: for some reason he didn't make that team. As Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling would often say on the Around the NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: let your freak case in him, flagfly, let's go. This

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Speaker 1: team has too many wide receivers. Who goes No Brown,

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Speaker 1: Robert Woods, John Metchi, Xavier Hutchinson is a good young player.

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Speaker 1: I think one of those guys, maybe the veterans of

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Speaker 1: the Brown is in one hundred percent, gets like a

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Speaker 1: sixth or seventh round conditional pick or a pick swap

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Speaker 1: just because there's there's too many, and I think one

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Speaker 1: of those guys, No Brown or Robert Woods, could help

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Speaker 1: out a different team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they have like eleven receivers in the

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Speaker 3: Rock like Quintes Siphiz is on this roster and actually

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Speaker 3: like maybe they're good.

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Speaker 1: Honestly Mechi's look good in the preseason. Hutchinson, I think

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Speaker 1: it's looked pretty good like most teams. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: like those two guys would be wide receiver two and

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Speaker 1: three on the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I think that if I had to trick him down,

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Speaker 3: Ben's kronics gone. Stevenson, you go back to Pittsburgh, get it,

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Speaker 3: get there's some At the very end, cam Akers looked

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Speaker 3: really good. He's gonna make the team. Yeah, So shout

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Speaker 3: out to him. After those injuries, Let's go to the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Don't have a ton on the Colts because we talked

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Speaker 3: about them on Thursday night. I did talk going into

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Speaker 3: the preseson who's going to play cornerback for this team.

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Speaker 3: It looks like it's gonna be Juju Brent and Jalen

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Speaker 3: Jones as the outside cornerbacks. On Sunday, they had a

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Speaker 3: relative surprise early cut Ronnie Harrison, who's played a lot

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Speaker 3: of football Levy was with the Browns and that writers

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Speaker 3: with the Colts were pretty surprised about that because he's

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Speaker 3: gotten a lot of snaps. But otherwise don't have a lot.

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Speaker 9: To say them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've taken an interesting strategy at safety, like Nick

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Speaker 3: Cross came out of nowhere to be the free safety

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Speaker 3: last year. So seeing Ronnie Harrison go, I mean, Ronnie's

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Speaker 3: bounced around since he's been with the Browns. So not

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Speaker 3: super surprising to me in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 3: but with this team, it.

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Speaker 2: Is a surprise.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And they got relatively good news that their backup running

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Speaker 1: back Trace Sermon could be back for a week one.

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Speaker 4: I'm really interested in watching this team.

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Speaker 1: That Colts Texans game is in my number one position

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Speaker 1: for Week one, but we'll get to that in.

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Speaker 4: Our preview show and in just a week and a half.

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Speaker 1: Jags Okay, So they did the thing that the Patriots

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Speaker 1: did on Sunday Night, but look better doing it. And

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Speaker 1: I love this when this happens, starters versus backups, or

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Speaker 1: starters versus third string, there's just something cool about that.

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, let's just see what happens. You're supposed

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Speaker 1: to look great, and they did. Trevor had some absolute

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Speaker 1: dimes to Evan Ingram in the end zone. Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Junior had another big play. Trayvon Walker is just like

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Speaker 1: lighting up the Falcons backups like he's back in college.

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Speaker 4: It was kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: I like seeing when the starters come out and look

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Speaker 1: like starters, like the Patriots starters.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they got a lead, but it wasn't it

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Speaker 4: wasn't nearly as convincing.

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Speaker 3: Now it's fun to see like the superiority of a

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Speaker 3: starting NFL player versus like a bottom of the roster

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Speaker 3: and camp NFL player, because like, the difference is just

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Speaker 3: pretty significant. But I'm also like, let's not do this

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Speaker 3: to an extreme degree because then fans are gonna be like,

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Speaker 3: look how good they were in Week three of the preseason,

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Speaker 3: we're winning.

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Speaker 2: The super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Although in fairness, yet you're absolutely right. The couple throws

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Speaker 1: Trevor had were just into small windows and it was like,

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Speaker 1: the are pretty throwers. John Shipley, if you didn't listen

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Speaker 1: on Friday, got me more excited about this Jaguars team,

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Speaker 1: including a.

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Speaker 4: Little hype on their rookie kicker.

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Speaker 1: This rookie kicker, Cam Little that they drafted has just

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Speaker 1: been piping field goals and he did it in the

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Speaker 1: preseason game too. Let's go to the Titans, who played

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, will Levis. They had the thing going to

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Speaker 1: starters versus the Saints' backups and their first teamers role.

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Speaker 1: I felt like half most of their offense was screen

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Speaker 1: passes due Pollard and Spears, and they just kept working

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Speaker 1: over and over. So it was relatively light work for Levis,

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Speaker 1: but he was efficient got them into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph has definitely won that second quarterback job. I

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Speaker 1: kind of think Malik Willis might be done in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just has not looked good.

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Speaker 3: I know he has two touchdowns to his name in

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Speaker 3: this game, but he has not looked comfortable or like

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Speaker 3: he's taken any steps forward since he ended the league.

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Speaker 3: And when it comes down to cut down day and

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Speaker 3: you got to make room on the roster, sometimes guys

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Speaker 3: like that end up on the chopping block.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've I've been mentioning to you guys, we're putting

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Speaker 1: all these shows up on YouTube. We're working on improving

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Speaker 1: that experience too, and I want you to be able

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Speaker 1: to watch the all twenty two of my guy, Thomas

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Speaker 1: Otakoya from the Netherlands, part of the International Player Pathway program,

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Speaker 1: with one of the greatest hustle plays I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: in NFL history. I don't care that it happened into

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Speaker 1: the preseason. Let's take a look. He's going to be

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Speaker 1: circled in the video that you see, but also talk

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Speaker 1: over it because.

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Speaker 4: I know some of you aren't watching.

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Speaker 1: So this was a field goal that came up short

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Speaker 1: late in the first half. And yeah, if you're watching,

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Speaker 1: Otakoya is circled.

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Speaker 4: A tight end.

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Speaker 1: Samson Nakua Pukah's brother, catches it, weaves his way about

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy yards back and forth down the field,

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Speaker 1: and Odacuyah somehow runs him down. He ran over the field.

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Speaker 1: It was the very last play of the first half,

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Speaker 1: so he saved seven points. I mean, that's just getting

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Speaker 1: it done at least. I know they don't need to

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Speaker 1: use a roster spot if they put him on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad, but come on, just put him on the

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Speaker 1: active roster just for that.

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Speaker 3: Nicholas Petite Ferrera his teammate, a starting tackle on this team.

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Speaker 3: Watch his body language in this video because this tells

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Speaker 3: you everything you need to know about football players who

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Speaker 3: appreciate the hustle and effort of their teammates. He was

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Speaker 3: fired up. They just returned this all the way down

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Speaker 3: to the two yard line. But he's so fired up

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Speaker 3: that his teammate kept him from a touchdown, gives him

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Speaker 3: a big hug, slaps him on the helmet.

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Speaker 2: That is the camaraderie that you don't getting any other sport.

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Speaker 1: Now that said, I was disappointed because Walker my son

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Speaker 1: was watching this thing live and he starts screaming. I'm

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Speaker 1: in the other room putting together these notes and everything.

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Speaker 1: He just starts screaming because that would have been the

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Speaker 1: play of the preseason easily. Puka Nokua's brother, you know,

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Speaker 1: traveling on the final play on a kick six and

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Speaker 1: he was robbed by a great effort. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: go to the AFC West. The Broncos. They didn't even

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Speaker 1: play Bo Nicks in this game. After naming him the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Zach Wilson had a very Zach Wilson game

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Speaker 1: where he was part It was like he was back

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Speaker 1: at college and so he had some big numbers. Jared

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Speaker 1: Stidham spoke afterwards that he was pretty upset that he

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Speaker 1: knows he's a starting quarterback in this league. Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: said that he's keeping all three quarterbacks, but not always

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Speaker 1: the most reliable narrator. It wouldn't shock me if Stidham

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Speaker 1: was dealt for like a late round pick swap or something.

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Speaker 2: Either talked his way out of Denver because he was

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Speaker 2: upset the tame.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think what he said, just because you know,

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Speaker 4: do they want to keep all three? Maybe they do.

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Speaker 4: That's what Sean Payton said, that they'll keep all three.

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Speaker 3: I have to caution just a little bit here, and

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Speaker 3: you already said it, but I'm just going to double

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Speaker 3: down the whole Zach Wilson when he's protected, he looks

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Speaker 3: like he's back in college. I got a text from

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Speaker 3: an esteemed Broncos fan that you and I know that

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Speaker 3: said that they that they have to keep him on

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Speaker 3: the roster. They have to find a way to keep him.

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Speaker 3: Let's just be a little careful because they are good

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Speaker 3: and bad of Zach Wilson.

658
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Speaker 1: So they're going to keep him because, as Jordan Rodrigue

659
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Speaker 1: said on the show that we do, you know, Sean

660
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Speaker 1: Payton wants to show like I can fix him. He's

661
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Speaker 1: the He's the hot guy that I can fix. So

662
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Speaker 1: he's going to try to do it, probably as a

663
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Speaker 1: backup you know who fixed a tough situation.

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Speaker 4: Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: What a weird story that popped up with the Chargers

666
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Speaker 1: that Justin Herbert, dan Founce's wife, Dan Fouts's son, and

667
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Speaker 1: some other Chargers players that dan Fous did not reveal,

668
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Speaker 1: but he did reveal the rest of this story on

669
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Speaker 1: the Chargers preseason broadcast. We're all trapped in an elevator

670
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Speaker 1: together in Dallas. The fire department had to come and

671
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Speaker 1: get them out through the top and like go over

672
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Speaker 1: to another elevator. Sounds pretty crazy, but according to Dan Fouts,

673
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert showed great leadership in that elevator. Was very calm,

674
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Speaker 1: cool and collected and kind of took charge.

675
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Speaker 4: I love that. I know by the way, he's fully

676
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Speaker 4: recovered and looking at good at practice that match.

677
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's good at practice because he's obviously not

678
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Speaker 3: playing the preseason. But wow, you know what that is

679
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Speaker 3: what you look for in a franchise quarterback. It's not

680
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Speaker 3: the plays in the field, it's whether you're trapped in

681
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Speaker 3: an elevator, and he could lead everyone.

682
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Speaker 2: To safety with the assistants of the fire department. Good job,

683
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Speaker 2: good on you.

684
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Speaker 1: Okay, So here are some of the team that could

685
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Speaker 1: go get one of these quarterbacks that we're talking about

686
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Speaker 1: that could be available from from Cleveland East and stick through.

687
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: He completed forty five percent of his passes this preseason,

688
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, not good. Not look any better in the

689
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Speaker 1: third week against you know, the backups to the backups

690
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Speaker 1: against Dallas, the Raiders, Tyreek McCallister. If the Sampson nakooa

691
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Speaker 1: play wasn't the highlight of the weekend, it was Tyrek

692
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Speaker 1: McCallister going ham on a couple long touchdoups. I never

693
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Speaker 1: heard of Tyreek McCallister before, kind of a receiver return man,

694
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Speaker 1: but he's on my roster now. He had a couple

695
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: of nice plays for the Races.

696
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's how you were in a job sometimes

698
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: back in the day, Victor Cruz did the same thing

699
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Speaker 3: with the Giants. But I do want to go back

700
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Speaker 3: to the Charges real quick, because, Okay, Greg a name

701
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Speaker 3: that everybody knows, but everybody thought was done for a

702
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: year ago because he was a scouting intern with the Ravens.

703
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Speaker 3: Tony Jefferson is back on the football field and he

704
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Speaker 3: had the best game I've ever seen from a player

705
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Speaker 3: in the preseason. Tackles, forced fumble, two interceptions, and a

706
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Speaker 3: sack against the Cowboys not single handedly changed the game,

707
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Speaker 3: but prove to me that in a game in WI

708
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Speaker 3: you're playing against a bunch of backups or alongside a

709
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Speaker 3: bunch of backups, you can still hack it.

710
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Speaker 2: I think he earned himself a roster spot with this game.

711
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got to be in his thirties. There had

712
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: some great I think he's thirty two years.

713
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Speaker 1: With the Cardinals, had some moments with the Ravens, and yeah,

714
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Speaker 1: now he's back, he could have made that team. One

715
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Speaker 1: thing I noticed with the Raiders are counting on a

716
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Speaker 1: couple offensive line mean kind of like the Browns that

717
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Speaker 1: are coming off of injury. Colton Miller just got off pop,

718
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Speaker 1: but they do think he'll be ready for a week

719
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Speaker 1: when Jackson powers Johnson their rookie, may you not start

720
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Speaker 1: this season because he's coming off of an injury, but

721
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Speaker 1: he is back on the practice field. Finally, in the AFC,

722
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I just feel like it's every week right

723
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Speaker 1: now that we're talking about their full back Carson Steel.

724
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Speaker 1: The latest projection at the Athletic for their roster had

725
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Speaker 1: them only keeping two running backs, and then Carson Steel

726
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Speaker 1: kind of being the third running as a fullback. I

727
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Speaker 1: feel like they could use a veteran there. They could

728
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Speaker 1: maybe use a veteran at cornerback two, where Andy Reid

729
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: publicly said no one really stepped up in that CB

730
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Speaker 1: two spot, and it might just be a little bit

731
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Speaker 1: of a rotation, which is in the end of the world.

732
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Speaker 1: These guys have some experience, but I think they were

733
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Speaker 1: hoping for a different outcome.

734
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Speaker 3: They also draft ahead of time to plan for these situations,

735
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Speaker 3: so we've seen this before that they let talent leave

736
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Speaker 3: and then they kind of have to committee until one

737
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Speaker 3: guy emerges.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised.

739
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Speaker 3: But Greg, you are telling me though, that the guy

740
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Speaker 3: that I spent hours of my life writing about l

741
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Speaker 3: r Z himself, Lewis Reeves Zammit, is not gonna make

742
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Speaker 3: the team.

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Speaker 1: From what I've read, I don't think he's been that

744
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Speaker 1: close throughout making the team, but he'll definitely be on

745
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Speaker 1: the practice squad. They made an investment to him. He's

746
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Speaker 1: just playing football for the first time in his life

747
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: and this might be a multi year project, and I

748
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: think they're all in on going for it. I don't

749
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get picked up by another team or something.

750
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Speaker 1: So he's still with the right organization. But I don't

751
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Speaker 1: think he was quite ready, and they gave him chances

752
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: as a returner on offense, but it didn't happen for him.

753
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Speaker 4: Look, it's hard to make the Chiefs roster.

754
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Speaker 1: Kadarius Tony helped win them a Super Bowl, and as

755
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Speaker 1: a former first round pick, I don't think he's making

756
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Speaker 1: their roster either. All right, let's go to the NFC.

757
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Speaker 1: Let's start with the Eagles. Big news out of Philly.

758
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: I think it was the last day of camp. Might

759
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Speaker 1: have been the second to last day of camp. Nick

760
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has finally thrown an interception. He made it

761
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Speaker 1: that far into training camp without throwing an interception. It's

762
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Speaker 1: pretty remarkable because the reporters there have said, like he's

763
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Speaker 1: thrown deep plenty. It's not that he's been like totally unaggressive.

764
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Speaker 1: He's just been rock solid and keeping the ball out

765
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Speaker 1: of harm's way.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

767
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Speaker 3: Maybe it's the first sign that this team's going to

768
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Speaker 3: figure out what they couldn't figure out last year and

769
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Speaker 3: actually get back on track. I mean, it's just camp,

770
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Speaker 3: it's just practice, but that's where you look for the

771
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Speaker 3: initial signs of how things might go. I've been to

772
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Speaker 3: camps where things have been pretty disheveled and then watching

773
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Speaker 3: that team struggle that was the twenty nineteen Browns.

774
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Speaker 2: So it's better that they're on the positive side. Yeah.

775
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Speaker 1: And our guy bow Wolf, who was on the show

776
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Speaker 1: earlier in his phl y podcast for the Eagles, he

777
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Speaker 1: said the defense actually picked it up there the last

778
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Speaker 1: week and a half, gave gave a lot of trouble

779
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Speaker 1: to Jalen Hurts, but he was still playing well. It

780
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Speaker 1: was more about the offensive line, and now they have

781
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Speaker 1: a new wide receiver of course in Johan Dotson. The

782
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Speaker 1: most notable thing in their preseason game Cooper Dezine out

783
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Speaker 1: there playing a lot blitzing a ton could work his

784
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Speaker 1: way into having a role early for the Eagle. So

785
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Speaker 1: nice that he did kind of get off the mat here.

786
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Speaker 1: Maybe they'll work them in slowly, but they almost have

787
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Speaker 1: too many cornerbacks, which considering where they were last year,

788
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Speaker 1: is a great problem to have, not as great I

789
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: think at edge where Nolan Smith was out there deep

790
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Speaker 1: into the game in preseason Week three. That's a first

791
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Speaker 1: round pick for Howie. One of those that people like

792
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: me are like he did it again, Howie. But you know,

793
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Speaker 1: those Georgia haven't really come through in general. Jalen Carter,

794
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: that's an exception, but the rest of them, not just

795
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, I just mean around the league, haven't

796
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Speaker 1: really totally come well.

797
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Speaker 3: I think I think you'll see a step forward from

798
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 3: Jordan Davis too, but I would agree in that. It's

799
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Speaker 3: it's also like funny because we're obviously not talking about

800
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Speaker 3: them yet, but they'll be up soon. It's like the

801
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Speaker 3: it's a very great comparison between two teams that are

802
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: either too deep at corner or not deep enough, the

803
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Speaker 3: Eagles and the Cowboys division rivals.

804
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Speaker 2: Well, let's go Cowboys. They lose.

805
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Speaker 3: They lose Deron Bland right to a foot injury, and

806
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones goes on record as saying, we feel great

807
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Speaker 3: about where we are at corner.

808
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Speaker 2: We're fine.

809
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Speaker 3: And I'm looking at this depth chart and I'm thinking,

810
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 3: are you sure, because like, you're not Eagles fine when

811
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Speaker 3: it comes to cornerback.

812
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Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned about that.

813
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Speaker 3: I know I've talked about Andrew Booth and he had

814
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Speaker 3: another nice preseason game to wrap it up.

815
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Speaker 1: But if you're he did not know he did not shooky.

816
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: He got torched on like a seventy eight yard er.

817
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Speaker 1: I don't know what he did the rest of the game, frankly,

818
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: and I wasn't paying close attention, but he gave up

819
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: that that.

820
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Speaker 3: Was That was the explosive play that Easton Stick had

821
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Speaker 3: in the game where the Chargers we're opening up and

822
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: throwing it deep.

823
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a lot to keep track up. So

824
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: they like this kid, Caitlin Carson. He was a third

825
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: round pick. And this is why I'm glad sometimes you know,

826
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Speaker 1: you're reading these reports and listening to Jane Slater and

827
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Speaker 1: they really liked him. First week, second week, third week

828
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Speaker 1: of training camp, just saying like they really think they

829
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Speaker 1: have something here. They've started some young cornerbacks and done

830
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Speaker 1: well with it. Anthony Brown was like a sixth rounder

831
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Speaker 1: who started out a or he's the guy Booth will

832
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Speaker 1: be depth. I think that's why Jerry Jones said that.

833
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Speaker 1: Then again, Jerry Jones kind of like Sean Payton, not

834
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: always the most reliable narrator of his own team, like

835
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Speaker 1: if they picked up a cornerback, but good call getting

836
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Speaker 1: that bland news out there. I mean, that's huge, a

837
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Speaker 1: pro Bowler getting foot surgery. It's I think it's been

838
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: a rough camp for the Cowboys in general, just everything

839
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Speaker 1: going on. Here's one sign that it was rough, not

840
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: just that Trey Lance through five interceptions in that game.

841
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: They've added three defensive linemen in the last week or

842
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: two that will make their team. I think, Yeah, Linval Joseph,

843
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips they traded for, and then Carl Lawson. I

844
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: guess I don't know if he's gonna make their team,

845
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: but I would guess. It's just kind of like a

846
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: sign that, like, things aren't going as planned when you're

847
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: signing three guys who are gonna have roles for you

848
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: and in mid to late August, you.

849
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Speaker 3: Know well, I mean we know that they had a

850
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: quiet offseason. They let some talent leave and they didn't

851
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: really replace it. And it's almost says that they're like, well,

852
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: let's see what we have and then if we don't

853
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: like what we have, we'll just go get some veterans

854
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: at the last minute. Because that's exactly what Linval Joseph was.

855
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: That's what he was with the Eagles last year. It

856
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: is the same thing. It's just like, hey, we need

857
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: some depth. We lost some guys. We need some help.

858
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: Let's go sign this guy now.

859
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Speaker 1: In fairness, like that can work. I just pointed out

860
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Speaker 1: how the Ravens make it work. So yeah, I'll give

861
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: them Cowboys a benefit of doubt. They have been excellent

862
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: at drafting and spotting cornerbacks and offensive linemen. But in

863
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: this case, it's came and Carson at cornerback. That yeah,

864
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna play a big role. We'll be watching him

865
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Speaker 1: week one with Tom Brady as the announcer against the Browns.

866
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Speaker 1: Like I think this kid is starting. Another player that

867
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Speaker 1: should be starting Giants their center John Michael Schmidt. He

868
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: got hurt in their final preseason game. The offensive line

869
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: for the Giants has not played together one single time

870
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Speaker 1: in training camp or the preseason. That seems bad. And

871
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Speaker 1: Evan Neil, who was their top ten pick, who I

872
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: do not think would make this team necessarily if he

873
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: wasn't a top ten pick, was playing a bunch in

874
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: this game and then got hurt again. He's a backup now.

875
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: But it's it's just kind of a bummer. And I've

876
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: been hoping this offensive line can just produce decent offense.

877
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: I think it is going to be better, but they

878
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: haven't been totally healthy.

879
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, to quote Pete Campbell from the great series mad Men,

880
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: not great, Bob not great with this team right now

881
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: on the offensive line, I look anytime, and this is

882
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: no shot at him directly or intentionally, but anytime Jerana

883
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: Iluminor is your starting right tackle and your first round

884
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: pick can't beat him out, that's a concerning sign.

885
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I will take offense here. First of all, another

886
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: great International Pathway Program story. You may think I'm just

887
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: a fan of the ipp players.

888
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 4: I am. It's cool. Yeah, Like our friend Henry Hodgson

889
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: runs this program.

890
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say he runs this program, but he assists

891
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: in this program, and they're finding these guys from all

892
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: over there.

893
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 4: He's had a good career.

894
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: He was a very useful player for the Patriots, and

895
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: he was playing his best football of his career last

896
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: year for the Raiders. That's an upgrade. He's like a starter.

897
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: He's a big time. He's a starter.

898
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: He's a starter that I don't feel great about, at

899
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: least in the time that I've paid attention to him playing.

900
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: That's what He's a starter.

901
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: That's an upgrade for the Giants, and it's probably better

902
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: than the average start.

903
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 4: It's a low bar a long time. How dare you

904
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: You're in some life changing money. Be happy for him.

905
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: Names you may know that probably aren't making the Giants.

906
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson is on the Giants, but I don't think

907
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: for long. And Isaiah Hodgens, who it's like the wide

908
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: receiver to a couple of years ago. Yeah, I don't

909
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: think so. I think the team is deeper, at least

910
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. But that did not help them necessarily.

911
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: In the joint practice against the Jets, it was a

912
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: lot of thinking and Dunky, not a lot of big

913
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: plays from Daniel Jones. Here was Sauce Gardner after that

914
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: joint practice, asked about Daniel Jones.

915
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: But what was your opinion or her take away on

916
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones?

917
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 10: Uh, he's he's He's a good He's a good quarterback,

918
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 10: you feel me. I thought I was about to pick

919
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 10: him one today. I had a little cloud rip.

920
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 9: You know.

921
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 8: He had looked at the last minute to try to

922
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 8: throw the check down on one deal. You know, I

923
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 8: thought I had to pick but he kept it.

924
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 9: Uh me.

925
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 8: Man, the competitive periods, it was very competitive. Man, it

926
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 8: was great, Like I have fun out there today. You know,

927
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 8: I don't really know what you say?

928
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: Like it really you got to see the facial expression

929
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: of him look off to the PR guy at the end,

930
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: you get me out of here. You can just hear

931
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: whatever he was gonna say going through his head and

932
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: then he sort of laughs and he's like, Oh, I

933
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that, but I should say something. And I

934
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: love Sauce Gardner because he keeps it real. But he

935
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: has learned a thing or two. I think actually two

936
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: years ago that might have gone differently.

937
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably would have buried Daniel Jones. It has

938
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: not been a fun preseason for him, a fun camp

939
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: for him, and he's coming off of injury and I

940
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: try to give him a ton of grace, but he's

941
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: also got a lot of pressure because of the contract

942
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: and it just doesn't look good right now. So for Sauce,

943
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: a guy who would capitalize on Daniel jones struggles.

944
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: What is he gonna say? Right?

945
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 3: He looked great, He really challenged me. It was competitive.

946
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: It's a good way, good job, Sauce.

947
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: Finally, the commander is the team that in front of

948
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: me is dementing in This could end up looking bad.

949
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: A victory over the Patriots, you know, stop Joe Milton

950
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: on a key fourth down. The preseason is nearly over

951
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: as we're taping this exciting what's happening in Commanders.

952
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: You want to know why?

953
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: How bad an owner Dan Snyder is that even like

954
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: the thing that he did to try to curry favor

955
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: and to try to do the right thing for once,

956
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 1: which was honor Sean Taylor, he Dan Snyder did such

957
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: a bad job at that that the statue, if you

958
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: want to call it a statue of Sean Taylor that

959
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: he made, the remembrance that they had of him that

960
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: they put up, feels so subpar that the new ownership,

961
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: run by Josh Harrish, Josh Harris, is actually replacing that statue.

962
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 4: I've never heard of such a thing.

963
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: They're replacing the Sean Taylor statue that went up only

964
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: two years ago, and it's gonna be one of the

965
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: most popular things Josh Harris has ever done in his

966
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: life coming in, I guess a distant second to just

967
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: buying this team and taking it away from Dan Snyder,

968
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: which made not only the Commanders fans happy, but like

969
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: anyone involved with the NFL happy.

970
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the bar was so low that anybody

971
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: with you know, just a grip on reality is going

972
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: to come in and go, all right, I'll do this.

973
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: I'll fix this. I'll fix this. I'll fix the Sean

974
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 3: Taylor statue. I'll be the most love guy in town.

975
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 3: Worst second worst statue I think I've seen made outside

976
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: of what is it the Ronaldo statue?

977
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: That one was just horrible.

978
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: It was just like a bust. I don't think it's

979
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: a full statue. That Sean Taylor one was also very bad.

980
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: I pointed out, I don't like that the Peyton Manning

981
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: statue says the sheriff on it.

982
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 8: Yeah.

983
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: Outside, lookas oil Field, I was like, no one called

984
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: him the sheriff until John Gruden called him the sheriff

985
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: and had Monday Night Football make graphics about it, like

986
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: ten twelve years into his career, and no one called

987
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: him that that much nationally after that.

988
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 4: And you're gonna make at the statue.

989
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: That's a that's a product of our social media age. Greg,

990
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: We're way off topic.

991
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 4: Commanders.

992
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: Look, they didn't play anyone in this game. I think

993
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: people thought when they traded Jahan Dotson, oh they got

994
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: this third round pick Luke McCaffrey, he'd be the third receiver,

995
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: but the reports there he has not really been in

996
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: the mix, was a little injured, hasn't made much of

997
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: a big impact, so they could be looking for different

998
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: wide receivers. But it's Diami Brown and a load of

999
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: how do you say its Alamide Alamide Zakis.

1000
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.

1001
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: I like the presence of Jayden Daniels on the sideline.

1002
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: Just doing the interview with Melissa Stark, I was just like,

1003
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to enjoy this guy's presence for the next

1004
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: fifteen years.

1005
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: I I hopefully, Yeah, I hope his career goes that

1006
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: long because he's off to a hot start and he's

1007
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: just a fun guy to watch and I can't wait

1008
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: to see him grow into that role with the team.

1009
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like he's already pretty built for

1010
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: it after coming off of a Heisman Trophy winning season.

1011
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: But obviously the NFL is the next level up, so

1012
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 3: let's make these games count and really start to test him.

1013
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: Because excited to see what he can do.

1014
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Commanders their first game, I think it's against the Bucks,

1015
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: Like they're one of the teams I want to see

1016
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: the most in week one, just because I just want

1017
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: to see what this all looks like.

1018
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 4: I really have no idea on both sides of the ball.

1019
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting.

1020
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna take one more break and we

1021
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: will wrap up notes on all thirty two teams with

1022
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: the last three divisions done with the preseason. Yes, back

1023
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: on NFL Daily. I wish we had a quarterback battle

1024
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. That would have been more fun to talk about.

1025
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 4: But we don't.

1026
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: I a football gods, they took it from us.

1027
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do have a wide receiver injury to talk about.

1028
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: That's not excited. Purple Daily is a podcast I listened to.

1029
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: Judd Zilga does a great job on that. He said

1030
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: something which surprised me, which is that it was unclear

1031
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: if Jordan Addison would be ready for Week one. That

1032
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: he's been out here for a little bit and they're

1033
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: gonna be careful with him coming back. We'll see a

1034
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: lot of these injuries. They don't have to put a report.

1035
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: You don't really know, but it's just something to keep

1036
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: an eye. I think they're deeper at receiver than people realize.

1037
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Naylor is gonna be decent player. Tristan

1038
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: Jackson's at a great camp. But that ties into another thing.

1039
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: He said, just kind of summarizing all of camp that

1040
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: he saw so far and even these last couple weeks

1041
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: without JJ McCarthy there, that Darnold in practice has just

1042
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: been very unpredictable, like a rollercoaster, like it.

1043
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 4: Depends on the day. Sometimes it can look really great.

1044
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes, especially when there's pressure in his face, you're just

1045
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: not sure the decision making process and that that's his career.

1046
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, Sam, I don't think you can

1047
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: expect that to change. Yeah, I was gonna say, colored

1048
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: me surprised because I'm not. I mean, it's Sam's career

1049
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: in a nutshell, so that's kind of a bummer. But

1050
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: that's what they got, so here we go.

1051
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: But I think the good could be really good, and

1052
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: I think the team around him being really good could

1053
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: be enough in a different sort of Jacoby Brissett and

1054
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: Evelynd sort of way. Maybe he's not even at that

1055
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: that level, but that if the team around him is

1056
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: even better that it can lift him up. I think

1057
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: that's possible. Keep an eye on them, possibly making a

1058
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: couple of trades here. Lewis scene is a high draft

1059
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: pick that you know they just traded. Andrew Booth seen

1060
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: as another guy, first round pick from that same draft.

1061
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: It was Quss He's first draft. He could be done there.

1062
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: Caleb Evans might be a guy who's played for them

1063
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: that could get traded.

1064
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 4: Just there's a couple of names there. The Lions.

1065
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: Nick, you were you were thrilled to watch Jake Bates

1066
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: go through the motions on a kick for the first time.

1067
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've talked at length about how his UFL

1068
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 3: career has propelled him to the NFL, and he's hitting bombs.

1069
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: He had a field goal at that in this game

1070
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: where you could tell he was like, yeah, you know,

1071
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: this is routine, I'm gonna hit it, and he just

1072
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: didn't strike it well and it just went wide right,

1073
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: and he immediately just went up to his teammates. He's like,

1074
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: I screwed that one up. I'm sorry, guys. I was

1075
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 3: just like, oh, he is human, all right.

1076
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that, because, I mean, I've

1077
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: got a lot of stock in on Jake Bates. We

1078
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: don't even know for sure if they don't pick and

1079
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: they could still pick up another veteran kicker. I don't

1080
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: think so. I think it's going to be Jake Bates.

1081
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: I do think they're going to pick up a wide

1082
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: receiver right now. Colton Pouncy on the Athletic wrote wide

1083
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: receiver four for them might be Isaiah Williams, who is

1084
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie free agent. So just rather thin there

1085
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: even at the wide receiver three position. It's not great.

1086
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Bears. The Bears traded a couple

1087
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: sixth round picks. One was a pick swap, one was

1088
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: a straight sixth. The straight six goes to the Seahawks

1089
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: for edge Darryl Taylor, and the Browns send them defensive

1090
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: tackle Chris Williams. Any thoughts on just them being so

1091
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: active here trading six round picks before the start of

1092
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: the season.

1093
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: I think they're trying to bolster the back end, at

1094
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 3: least of the defensive tackle group by going to a

1095
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 3: team that has this super deep defensive tackle and needed

1096
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 3: to move a player. The Darryl Taylor thing, I think

1097
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: I liked more just because I think he'll be in

1098
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: a better position to make an impact. But it's again,

1099
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 3: it's a rotational depth and I think that's what Eberflus

1100
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: is gonna want to do with this defense, so why

1101
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: not stock it up with some players they liked.

1102
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just tells me, like how big this year is.

1103
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: It's I know, it's not that aggressive. There's sixth round

1104
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: picks or even just a pick swap, but hard knocks.

1105
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: You do kind of think about that. This is Ibriel

1106
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: Flus's third year here in polls, like they need Ryan

1107
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: Poles their gym, they need some proof of concept. And

1108
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: so these are the types of moves I think you

1109
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: make in a year three that like we're ready to

1110
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: win now, Like we don't feel comfortable with the depth

1111
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: they had, And yeah, Chris Williams was a guy I

1112
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: believe they had some familiarity with from a previous stop

1113
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: ebra Flus did in Indianapolis, so he knows the player.

1114
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: Green Bay is looking for a backup quarterback. That's another

1115
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: team that could look for one of these veterans that

1116
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: are out there. As much as I love me some

1117
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: Michael Pratt, I don't know who. I don't know if

1118
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: they could feel that comfortable with him or Sean Clifford

1119
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: week one.

1120
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Speaker 4: They kind of need a veteran.

1121
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think if they choose two. It's Clifford

1122
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 3: and Bumber for us, you know, Pratt fans and everything.

1123
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: But I think they choose Clifford. They'll probably be in

1124
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: the market. It's just you can't go into a season

1125
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 3: with high expectations without some sort of like semi reliable backup.

1126
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: And I don't think either of those guys is right now.

1127
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, they did it the whole seat.

1128
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: They did it last year with Clifford, so I guess

1129
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: they could do it again. It's possible, but he really struggled.

1130
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: Maybe they only carry one quarterback I think as possible,

1131
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: and just see if both those guys slip through waivers.

1132
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: They also don't have a kicker. It's Anders Carlson versus

1133
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: Greg Joe stuff. And everyone's been losing apparently. And Marshaw

1134
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: Lloyd and AJ Dillon, their backup running backs, have both

1135
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: been out for at least a week, two weeks in

1136
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: Marshaon Lloyd's case, so they might need some help in

1137
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: terms of just some running back depth if they don't

1138
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: get back. Let's talk something in car Let's move to

1139
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: the NFC South about Bryce Young. Did you get a chance,

1140
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: Nick to see any Bryce Young highlights because Bryce Young

1141
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: played a football game this week and he looked.

1142
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 4: Pretty good at it.

1143
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: All right, I see what you wrote in the notes.

1144
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: So you described it stick play, rolling left improv to

1145
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson, Hey man, look, this is why he got

1146
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: drafted where he did. I mean, he's a playmaker. He's

1147
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: a shorter guy, but he's a playmaker, and you get

1148
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 3: him out of the Poet's probably where he's gonna thrive.

1149
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: They were so lost last year that any sort of

1150
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: improvement is going to make me excited about them. Not

1151
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: from a team perspective, but just I want to see

1152
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 3: Bryce make some strides because you don't want to see

1153
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: the number one overall pick wasted, especially when it was

1154
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 3: a pick that they acquired by trading a pick that

1155
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: ended up being Kayleb Williams. Like that could be massive

1156
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: egg on their faces. This doesn't work out, So all right, Bryce,

1157
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: let's figure it out. Let's do some things like this.

1158
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: I want to see highlights.

1159
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he only played one drive. It was a

1160
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: touchdown drive. He was very clean on it. It was

1161
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: against the Bill's backup, so it's another one of those situations.

1162
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: But again, rolling left, improvising, showing a little bit of

1163
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: creativity and arm strength actually getting it to Deontay Johnson.

1164
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: Chuba Hubbard started that game, and the thing that really

1165
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: got me is I'm watching this drive and I'm like, wait, Jordan.

1166
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 4: Matthews just caught a pass. Wait, Jordan Matthews just cut

1167
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 4: another pass and it's a touchdown. Like that, Jordan Matthews.

1168
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: And yes, Jordan Matthews is converted to tight end and

1169
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: he caught some passes for the Panther. He was playing

1170
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: first string because they've got so many injuries there. They

1171
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: had two tight ends out there. Okay, I like it.

1172
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 3: They have two converted tight ends on that team, Gregs.

1173
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: They also have Felipe Franks on that roster. Okay, converted

1174
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: tight ends.

1175
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: I don't think he's making it.

1176
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: This team is thin in a few places, insanely thin

1177
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: edge after Gedevian Clowney, It's crazy. I think their defense

1178
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: could be a bit of a mess. Harris Marshall is

1179
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: getting shopped for Joseph Person of the Athletics, so that's

1180
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: a wide receiver that could be available. He actually made

1181
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: some They did the thing where they tried to showcase

1182
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: him in the preseason, and it kind of worked because

1183
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: he had a bunch of plays in the preseason. So

1184
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: I bet someone will give up something for a second

1185
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: round pick from a few years ago, but not much.

1186
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: Whenever you're trading these guys, it's kind of like cutting them.

1187
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: You're going to get a Day three pick at best.

1188
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 4: For the Bucks. Let's go to Tampa.

1189
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: Dalen McMillan had a crazy highlight from Baker Mayfield that

1190
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: was just awesome. He looks like the wide receiver three

1191
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: for this team over Trey Palmer.

1192
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: That's kind of.

1193
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 3: Crazy because they were pretty high on Trey Palmer last year.

1194
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 3: If anything, I like the depth of this group. I

1195
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 3: don't know how it's going to play out without Dave

1196
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: Canal's calling the plays we'll see, But I mean, Godwin, McMillan, Evans,

1197
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 3: Palmer stowing shepherds on this roster. I kind of like

1198
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: this group. And if you get you know, that type

1199
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: of production from a rookie, good on you.

1200
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1201
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the contrarian in me, yeah,

1202
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: Dan Dan hanss of course. My friend always would call

1203
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: me a contrarian, and i'd push back against that. You're

1204
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: in a tough spot because if you're saying you're not

1205
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: a contrarian.

1206
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: You're a contrarian.

1207
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: And I think like the part of me that's looking

1208
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: for stories people aren't talking about. Let's put it that

1209
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: way with the Bucks is like, I've gotten excited about

1210
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 1: this this Bucks team.

1211
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: I think they could be kind of frisky.

1212
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm into that Week one game against the Commander just

1213
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: because I'm like, what is what are these teams going

1214
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: to look like?

1215
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 4: Everyone's a mystery going into Week one.

1216
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: That especially includes the Falcons who didn't play any other

1217
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: starters at all in the preseason, so not a lot

1218
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: to talk about there. Kevin King, we talked about a

1219
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: nice story. After being away from football for a couple

1220
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: of years. It looks like he's really going to make

1221
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: this team. Ray Ray McLeod is probably their third wide

1222
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: receiver and I didn't realize he had solidified that, but

1223
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: that seems to be the case. And Taylor Heineke another

1224
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: quarterback that could be traded. I would think he'd be

1225
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: high on the list of these quarterbacks for teams that

1226
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: are looking for just someone to step in like Taylor

1227
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: Heineke and a Matt Lafleur offense. Sure, why not, Like,

1228
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: let's put him in Green Bay.

1229
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, he's a little too wild. I

1230
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: think for a min at the floor offense might drive

1231
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 3: madd insane on the sidelines. But he'll get a look

1232
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 3: somewhere because of his experience, not because of the way

1233
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 3: he's played this preseason Chargers.

1234
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 4: He was a little better after that first game. Heinekey,

1235
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 4: but we've seen it. We've seen him play a lot

1236
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 4: at the NFL level. Like we know who he is.

1237
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: He can be a backup at least better than some

1238
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: of these backups out there. The Saints played on Sunday.

1239
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: There was a report, I believe from SI dot com

1240
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: John Hendrix. I hope I'm getting that right that they're

1241
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: looking for tackles. Not a surprise. They should have been

1242
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: looking for the all offseason. In related news, Trevor Penning

1243
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: struggled on Sunday. His coach said that he's slightly ahead

1244
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: in a competition for the starting job. Police Fujaga was

1245
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: playing in this game. I don't know what you want

1246
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: to say about the Saints. Tell me something.

1247
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: I don't really have a lot to say that's very

1248
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 3: positive because of what you just described. I mean, you

1249
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 3: got Eric mccoyit center you got Caesar Ruiz a guard,

1250
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 3: and then what Patrick Lucas, you know, came over from

1251
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, if the offensive line, look, you

1252
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: know me football purist, traditionalist.

1253
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: It starts in the trenches.

1254
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 3: And if you're worried about tackles in week three of

1255
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 3: the preseason, your head had toward an ugly year, at

1256
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: least somewhat ugly. So I don't know if there's not

1257
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 3: gonna be a magic bullet that's just going to fix this.

1258
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 3: Trevor Penning has struggled since he entered the league. That's

1259
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: disconcerting for me because I was really hoping that this

1260
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: would be the year that he would actually start to

1261
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 3: figure it out because they need him, and if he's

1262
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 3: not doing well, just doesn't bode well for what your

1263
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 3: offense is going to look like, especially an offense that

1264
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 3: loved to just lean on Alvin Kamara until he was

1265
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 3: no longer available last year. Do that or Derek Carr

1266
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: just throwing down the sideline a At Parry all game right.

1267
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: And at Perry had a ton of drops. I don't

1268
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: think at Perry actually is in the top four receivers

1269
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: for this team based on him playing late into this game.

1270
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: Sedgic Wilson is the three there. They're thin, Rashik chahit

1271
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: hasn't been that healthy and on the field I do

1272
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: have some fun stuff for them. One Juwan Johnson was back.

1273
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: He had a really he had a serious injury, had

1274
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: a surgery that he was coming back from and he's

1275
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: healthy enough to play, so that's a good sign for him.

1276
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: Number two, don't cut Charlie Smith Saints. And if you

1277
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: don't know who Charlie Smith is, he's another ipp guy.

1278
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: He's from Ireland. He had never kicked a freaking football

1279
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: in his life until I believe a couple of years ago,

1280
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: maybe it was only a year ago. It's insane and

1281
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: there's video of him hitting a sixty five yarder at practice.

1282
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: You better not cut him because some other team might

1283
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: actually pick up Charlie Smith and you don't want to

1284
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: lose him. He's going to be a folk hero in Ireland.

1285
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: I love it.

1286
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: He won't be as big a folk hero though as

1287
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: Spencer freaking Rattler who came in here again.

1288
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 4: He was pushing the agenda on Sunday. Let's watch one

1289
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 4: of his dimes, Jacobson.

1290
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 6: That's setting up all the partners side Pinet's gold for

1291
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 6: cold on that time, Brown with the score, had a

1292
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 6: perfect row with the corner. Fantastic ball.

1293
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 9: It's a little bit of a switch route from a

1294
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 9: slot receiver. Rattler puts it right on it. So route

1295
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 9: by Sank Brown. Great ball by Rattler, good connection for

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00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 9: the Saints, ending.

1297
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 6: In a touchdowns.

1298
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: I love a good slot fade that's put on target.

1299
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 2: M It gets me going.

1300
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean, there was no window there. He came in,

1301
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: He sparked this offense. He played the second and fourth

1302
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: quarters of this game. Jay Kanner played the first and

1303
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: third and Rattler just looked better. And don't you know

1304
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: you did it, Dennis Allen. You let Rattler have some

1305
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: moments in front of the home crowd.

1306
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 4: That was enough.

1307
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: That was enough for me for him to be the backup.

1308
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: And if he's not the backup, it doesn't even matter.

1309
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: He's the guy that fans are going to be calling

1310
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: for if things go south because he is not a

1311
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: normal fifth round pick. He is talented and I know

1312
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: he had a bad second week of the preseason, but

1313
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: he had a great third week. That's what we're focused on.

1314
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 1: We've got the agenda to keep in mind.

1315
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: I like this kid.

1316
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't need to see him start that

1317
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: many games, but maybe by like week fifteen, if they're

1318
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: not in the playoff picture, week six times, god, something

1319
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: like that.

1320
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: I'm envisioning that scenario and what it means for the

1321
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: future of the Saints, which is like a coaching change

1322
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: in the end of the Derek Carr era.

1323
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: And oh god, he's a talented young player. So it

1324
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: was nice to see it because there was a couple

1325
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: of really good plays in there and in this preseason.

1326
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap up with the AFC rather the

1327
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: NFC West couple just tough items for the Cardinals. Z

1328
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: Jones suspended five games for violating the Personal Conduct Policy,

1329
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: and then Darius Robinson, their first round pick, who was

1330
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: playing a position that was already thin, already a little

1331
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: injured on the edge for the Cardinals, could be hitting

1332
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: ir to start the year after suffering an injury. Desmond

1333
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: Ritter also suffered a concussion in their preseason game. I

1334
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna even make the team. That injury, unfortunately,

1335
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: is lesser than two other guys who are going to

1336
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: play big roles for them.

1337
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: So this is a team that, like, because they didn't

1338
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: have Kyla last year, I'm just already thinking, like, well,

1339
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 3: they should be better this year. You're two Jonathan Gannon,

1340
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 3: but not a couple of good news items for them

1341
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 3: going into the dead week before the regular season starts. Luckily,

1342
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 3: to fifty three men roster, you'll find ways to try

1343
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 3: to replace some of those things, but it's not good.

1344
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a bummer.

1345
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Robinson kind of a tweener, but should have been

1346
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: a good run stopper at the very least. And they're

1347
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: just missing talent. And then they've lost a couple big

1348
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: players b j O Jalari and then Darius Robinson.

1349
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 4: So that's the thing.

1350
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: You never know which teams are gonna get the injury,

1351
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: but but sometimes it's the really bad teams. It just

1352
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: like makes the bad teams worse, which is a bummer

1353
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: if you're the Cardinals. The most surprising news I think

1354
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: I saw on Sunday was about the rams in Ernest Jones.

1355
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: I want to use the wording of our colleague Jordan

1356
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: rod Rieg, who had this from a source, the Ernest

1357
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: situation when it when it first came out, she wrote,

1358
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: they've let their starting at inside linebacker and team captain

1359
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: Ernest Jones know they are open to trading him.

1360
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 4: Her source.

1361
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: Jones has started since his rookie year, but now enters

1362
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: his fourth season without a contract extension. So I saw it,

1363
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: you know set in one place is that like Ernest

1364
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: Jones can seek a trade. That almost makes it sound

1365
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: like Ernest Jones asked to seek a trade and Jordan

1366
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: and she followed up later in the day that there's

1367
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: a difference between you know, team making it known there's

1368
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: they're open to the possibility to trade in him or

1369
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: the player camp asking Ernest Jones came out after It's like,

1370
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: I didn't ask to seek a trade, and so I

1371
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: don't know anything about what's going on here. I didn't

1372
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 1: ask Jordan, like specifically if she knew anything. That gotta

1373
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: tell me if it's confidential anyways, But you only do

1374
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: this if you're about to bench the guy. Yeah, which

1375
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: is surprise, Which is surprising because he's a team captain,

1376
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: played a big role for them, but they they must

1377
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: love this kid. Omar Spates. I didn't know who Omar's

1378
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: Spates was until a week ago, but Lesneid talked him

1379
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,959
Speaker 1: up as he's definitely making the team, and the only

1380
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: thing that makes any sense is they're trying to trade

1381
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: him because they don't want to bench their team captain.

1382
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: Because if you're not benching him, why would you go

1383
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: through all this and annoy everyone. I'm sure that some

1384
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: members of the team are going to be annoyed by this,

1385
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: not just Gems.

1386
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 3: I think it would be a combination of spates rising

1387
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: and proving that hey, maybe I'm the better option, and

1388
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 3: also a change of defensive coordinator. You know, Rahiem Morre

1389
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 3: is not there anymore, and sometimes some guys are just

1390
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 3: not their guys they were the previous coordinators guys, and

1391
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 3: that just might be what it is. It just doesn't

1392
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: fit as well. We don't know right now. We don't know,

1393
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 3: but it's probably a combination of the two. And I

1394
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 3: think you're right with we're going to trade him because

1395
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 3: we don't want to bench team captain.

1396
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 4: Right and Shula's been there, but you're right, it is different.

1397
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: He's in charge and he was just a position coach before,

1398
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: and he wasn't Ernest Jones' position coach.

1399
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 4: So a lot of weird stuff with the Rams.

1400
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they're entering the season the way they

1401
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: would want to with Nikua missing so much time. Alerc Jackson,

1402
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: their starting left tackle, has been suspended two games that

1403
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: came out since we last talked. They have a lot

1404
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: of injury concerns their right tackle, Rob Havenstein, their left

1405
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: guard Jonah Jackson. So that's three fists potentially of your

1406
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: offensive line that could be missing week one. And the

1407
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: Alerc Jackson news, Like, I don't know if they knew

1408
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: that was coming. But he's going to be a free

1409
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: agent too, So they've just kind of had a lot.

1410
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: That was a personal conduct vote conduct violation by Alerc Jackson.

1411
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a number of suspensions on Friday one,

1412
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 3: including the rare time serve. So you're suspended, but you

1413
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 3: already served it because you're on the exemp list last year.

1414
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 3: But as it pertains to this one specifically, and you

1415
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 3: add in the whole Matt Stafford, like we were concerned

1416
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 3: about his health as of like a week ago, like

1417
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 3: not moving with the most momentum of the regular season.

1418
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: Least at least he looked better at practice. He seemed

1419
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: he seems to be okay, all right. Final two teams

1420
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: here forty nine ers, Uh, just wanted to note Ricky Pearsall,

1421
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: where is he?

1422
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 8: He?

1423
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: He showed up for four or five practices then left,

1424
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: like right now, if you're going to play a game,

1425
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: Jacob Cowing has got to be ahead of Pearsall in

1426
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: the mix. A lot of Jacob Cowing hype rookie under

1427
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent and keep making plays a practice in

1428
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: the preseason. Who knows, but yeah, Pearsall hasn't stepped up.

1429
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: I was watching their preseason game a little bit and

1430
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: the hops George Kittle showed on a catch over the

1431
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: middle because they played their starters. Perty was out there.

1432
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he looked that looked awesome. I remember the

1433
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: George Kittle from two years ago when he kind of

1434
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: looked broken. He was playing hurt for two straight seasons,

1435
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: and then he looked better last year and he looks

1436
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: even better now.

1437
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 4: So that's just something I.

1438
01:04:58,560 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 5: Want to say.

1439
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: He lost thirty pounds this offseason because of the injury

1440
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 3: he was a core muscle injury or whatever it was,

1441
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 3: and he lost a ton of weight.

1442
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 2: Maybe he just feels more lighter on his feet.

1443
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: Well he I think he added most of it back

1444
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: or all of it back because he wanted to be

1445
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: able to block and everything. But yeah, he seems he

1446
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: seems healthy. And in that game, Leonard Floyd and you

1447
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: tur Grosmato's left with injuries. Unclear how serious they are,

1448
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: but they're both key players at a pretty thin position.

1449
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: They have a third round rookie, Dominic Pooney who's gonna

1450
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: start at guard, and the people the tape heads like

1451
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: Brandon Thorn out there.

1452
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: He looks good. He looks good.

1453
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw that cut up that

1454
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 3: I think Thorn put out where he essentially gets beat

1455
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 3: off the first like initial step and then is able

1456
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 3: to reset and swivel and re engage. He basically lost

1457
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: his defensive line when to get the offensive line of

1458
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 3: his hands off. We're not gonna get too deep in

1459
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 3: the weeds here, but he gets his hands knocked off

1460
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 3: and is able to reset at an angle, re engage

1461
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 3: and completely shield the guy off to where the quarterback

1462
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 3: never even had to worry about it.

1463
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: Usually that's a blowby, and that's a sack or a pressure.

1464
01:05:58,800 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: Not with him, though he looks good.

1465
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: That's awesome, and they could use an upgrade in talent

1466
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: in terms of their offensive line. Like they get by

1467
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: but they might actually might have two new starting guards

1468
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: this year, Brandon Allen and Joshua Dobbs. It's the battle

1469
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: for the backup quarterback. It's actually unclear who's gonna win it.

1470
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,479
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna keep both. They've been burned before

1471
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: by not having a bunch of quarterbacks, but it's not

1472
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: clear that josh Dobbs is the backup overall, and they

1473
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: both have had moments. Whu Funga might start the season

1474
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: Tala Noah Hufunga on the pup list and he has

1475
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: not practiced yet, so that's just something to watch with

1476
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. And then finally the Seahawks, they

1477
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: had an injury in their final preseason game. Gino Smith

1478
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: played one drive and had like three incredible dimes on

1479
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: the drive to Jackson Smith and Jigba and DK Metcalf.

1480
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: So all the hype that he got in the training

1481
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: camp was seen by myself in this offense.

1482
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: That was exciting.

1483
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: And they also trade did a cornerback, Michael Jackson for

1484
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: a seventh round linebacker from the Titans. Michael barrett I

1485
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: only point that out because their off ball linebacker positions

1486
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: banged up and reportedly hasn't looked great in camp, so

1487
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 1: that shows a little bit of desperation that they're trying

1488
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: to add to that position.

1489
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a lot of depth there.

1490
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 3: If you just look at the at the chart right now,

1491
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 3: you know, you let Jordan Brooks go and it just

1492
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 3: seems like, eh, yeah, let's add some depth here.

1493
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 2: Let's let's get another body in here that we think

1494
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: is a decent player.

1495
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: Right They brought in Tyrol Dotson from Buffalo, who's who's

1496
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: barely played in his career. And then who was the

1497
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: other linebacker that they brought in, Jerome Baker, who's rarely

1498
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: healthy and hasn't been healthy there. And so that's that's

1499
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: that's their starters right now. That's a key position in

1500
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's defense too, if you think about obviously his

1501
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: track records, so that that's probably keeping him up at night.

1502
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: I have to admit that I had dream. I wouldn't

1503
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: say it kept me up at night, but it was

1504
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: part of the dream that the Seahawks offensive line was

1505
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: just awful.

1506
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 4: They couldn't protect genos.

1507
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: Oh, even in your dreams, you're worried about Genosmith's future.

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Speaker 1: I guess I mean a lot of things happen in

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01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: my dreams. Sometimes there's just like a huge wave, you know,

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01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: from the ocean. It's coming at me, and it's just

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01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna crash.

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01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: At something and you can't run.

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01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: Just no, you're just there. You're just waiting for it,

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01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: and you're just prepping. You're just getting ready. It's like

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01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: a tsunami. You're not gonna get out of the way

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01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: of it. What does that wave stand for?

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01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 3: Who should you, guys, stilize the dreams here on NFL Daily.

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01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: You have a whole show.

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01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 4: Yeah you could.

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01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 1: You could let me know at a NFL Daily podcast

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01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I had a dream the other night that

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01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: I was playing high school football and we're in the

1525
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 3: state championship, but I couldn't get my equipment or get

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01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 3: to the bus on time. And it was a long

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01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 3: dream and it was very stressful, and I woke up

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01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 3: very upset.

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01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't a bad dream. Shooky doing these

1530
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: fine preseason games with you. It was fun doing these

1531
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: Sunday night shows during the preseason. No more games to recap,

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01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 1: but we will have a fun week last week before

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01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: really our regular week one season schedule. Start to have

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01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybond and Cynthia Frielan in the studio to do

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01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 1: some power rankings on our next show, and shook, Yeah,

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01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: this was a pleasure. I can't wait un till we're

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01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: doing the real thing Sunday night, week one, September eighth.

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Speaker 1: I will see you then, buddy, Until then, the next

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Speaker 1: time