1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Now you're mate events. Introducing the hosts, I'm wrestling with 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Freddy Jeff died Hand, Freddy Prince ju Nior. What's up everybody? 3 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Wrestling with Friends. I'm your host, 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Freddy Prinz Junior. With me as always is mister Jeff 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Die aka Lord Jeoffrey, tag team partner of William Regal 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: or Steven Riegal. He loved him no matter what gimmick 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: he was rocking. Let's start lushong, mister Jeff, how are 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: you good, sir bruv? 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: How you feeling? 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Feeling pretty darn good. I'm a little grayer, a little older, 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: but I might not be any wiser, but I still 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: feel good. I got at least at least three decades 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: left on this planet. 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: If it's done with give you eighty more years, at 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: least three eighty more eighty Yeah, I don't. 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Want to be around eighty one. 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: We need you, We need you. 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: Do we want to live forever? Is that? Or do 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: we embrace the fact that it ends? 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: You want to live to see Rocky and Charlotte get 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: like ninety and then you can go. 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: I'll be old as a mug. I'll be old old 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: as hell. I don't know that, old man. Maybe just 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: to see if they want to have kids, to see grandkids. 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: There you go. 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: No, that's that's easy, and old enough that they won't 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: that they won't cry too hard when I'm gone. They 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: got to be old enough where they can deal with it. 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well when that you're ninety, they'll be old 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: enough to deal with it. 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: They might be old and grumpy by then and hate me. 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: Anybody knows me long enough, it's about to happen ridiculous. Well, 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: you've got me thinking introspectively today, and I think today's 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: episode should should work off that theme, and we should 35 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: talk about the value of writing storytelling in ring and 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: out of ring in the professional wrestling business. For those 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: of you who don't know, I wrote for the WWE 38 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: on two different instants and tried to help wrestlers write 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: their own promos more the second time I was there. 40 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: I love professional wrestling. I'm the first to acknowledge when 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: the writing's not where it should be, but sometimes they 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: get it right. You and I might disagree on a 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: lot of these, but I think it's important for us 44 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: to discuss the main things that are important in making 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: us care right. You have to have an emotional investment 46 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: and a business investment. The audiences are smart now. If 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: they don't think you're behind the talent, they're not going 48 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: to get behind the talent. Second is character development, which 49 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: would probably be your favorite. Whether you're coming up with 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: a gimmick profession type wrestling like in the eighties, whether 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: you're an IRS agent or a hockey player or a 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: half man, half beast or whatever you were, or if 53 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: you're using your name and you can simply and eloquently 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: explain to me why you want to wrestle, that's your 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: character development. Why you're here, what shaped you, what broke you, 56 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: what inspired you to come back? All those things are important. Thirdly, 57 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: building anticipation of matches, not just giving us the match 58 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: right away, making us want the match. Boxing promoters are famous, 59 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: infamous for doing this for way too long, to the 60 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: point where both guys are past their prime and we 61 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: don't want to watch them fight anymore. Look at Floyd 62 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Mayweather Manny Paciel's for an example of that. Also, there 63 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: has to be a resolution to this, and the best 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: way to do it is for both people to come 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: out looking good, regardless of the winner, and loser, right, 66 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: you want to both guys in the match or both 67 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: girls in the match need to get over right. That's 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: the resolution of it. And then the in ring stuff, 69 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: the inn ring psychology, the stories they're going to tell. 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: Is it an injury storyline? Is it a comeback storyline? 71 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Like Jimmy Connors and Wimbledon back in the eighties when 72 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: he was like forty three and made this crazy run 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: to I think the semifinals or quarterfinals, but people the 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: jit started to believe and think he was going to win. 75 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: You could equate that to the raymy Stereo storyline of 76 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: him having to climb the mountain time and time again. 77 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: Can't he do it this time? And he finally makes it, 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: but he can't hold on because he's too small. The 79 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: bigger guy always kills him. All these types of things 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: helped drive the stories that we've loved. And so today 81 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna talk the whole time about how 82 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: to tell a story. We're going to talk about some 83 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: of those stories, and a lot of them are from 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: the ara that you love the most, the Attitude Era. 85 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: Now my philosophy on the Attitude eras they only had 86 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: a couple good stories. I was not a fan of 87 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: the writing back then. And I know I'm in the minority, 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: and I know every you can say, oh you suck 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Fredd of your opinion, totally cool. It just for the 90 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 1: most part wasn't for me, Like the black wedding things 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: like that, Like those things just didn't. 92 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: Definitely swung for the fences. 93 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: A lot of those they definitely swung for the fences. 94 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: I'll give it to him for that. But they did 95 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: have a couple and that's what we're going to get 96 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: into today, Jeff. Just off the top of your head, 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: what are a couple of your or your very favorite 98 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: storyline from that era? Canaan Undertaker revenge is always a 99 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: good story. 100 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: And then Stone Cold versus Vince as far as like 101 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: just the just terrorizing his boss. I liked that a lot. 102 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think I did like when they would 103 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: make it a country thing for whatever reason, maybe I 104 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: was just young or something. But the Canada versus America 105 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: versus Puerto Rico, which is hilarious, the lowest Buddy was 106 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: were literally like Puerto Rico had been a part of 107 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: America for over one hundred years and they're waving a 108 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: flag like it's a whole separate country, and then the 109 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: fans are making it. It's almost like they're not aware 110 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: that it's part of America. So it's kind of a funny. 111 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 112 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious. There have been plenty of 113 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: bad ones as well. To me, one of the one 114 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: of the most infamous bad ones was Who's trying to 115 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: kill Stone Cold Steve Austin? And it was the who 116 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: done it? For the WWF or WWE maybe by that 117 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: and it ends up being Rakishi. And for those of 118 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: you who don't know, Rakishi was as very gigantic human 119 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: being with the biggest ass that I've ever seen on 120 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: any human and he was famous for smashing that big 121 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: booty in people's face. Yeah so big. Kanye West would 122 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: have dated him, so yeah. So to me, this was 123 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: a trickier a trickier time. I will I will say 124 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: this just about everything they did with mankind should have failed, 125 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: and the fact that they pulled it off at such 126 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: a high level with this dude, and credit to him 127 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: because the stories and writing are ridiculous. It has to 128 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: be his caricatures and characters, which are two different things. 129 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: And it's not just because of the spelling. It's it's 130 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: important people understand how fine a talent Mick Foley was. 131 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if he could act in a movie. Okay, 132 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you gave him a scene, if 133 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: he'd be able to break it down and give you 134 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: an eloquent performance in a mainstream movie. But what he 135 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: was capable of doing, especially with mankind, how do you 136 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: feel sorry for a serial killer with a leather face mask? Yeah, 137 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: how the hell can you make me feel sorry for you? 138 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: But he did it at the highest level to where 139 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: he came off vulnerable and scared and met and he 140 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: just needs a friend, sweat. He looks the way he 141 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: looks Yet to me, he's There were very few attraction wrestlers, right, 142 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: the Undertaker being the last one, bray Wyatt. You could say, 143 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: you could argue bray Wyatt, But the one that was 144 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: the most fun, the one that was the most special, 145 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: and he may not be my favorite, but the one 146 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: that was the most fun was always Mankind. For Mankind 147 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: to dude Love, Dude Love was the man. He's like 148 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: the Lost Beaches Brothers like, he was the man all 149 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: the way to Cactus Jack with that great line, what 150 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: is I'd rather fight a man than love a woman. 151 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there like, what, I would never rather 152 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: do that? What do you mean in the middle of 153 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: puberty when he's saying that. But I still cheered and 154 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: rooted for this dude because he was so committed to 155 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: each and every one of these multiple frigging personalities in 156 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: his head. You gotta love mankind. 157 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: My buddy, a fellow comedian, Brad Wenzel, he's married and 158 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: his wife lets wrestling be his like thing, you know, 159 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: you know, like wives and husbands have to just say, hey, 160 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: you know that's what my that's what my spouse likes. 161 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: Just let him have it whatever it is, you know, Yeah, 162 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm in one of those. 163 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, every I think every marriage is. You know, it's 164 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: like you say, yeah, we like different things, and that's okay, 165 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: it's it's whatever. You don't tease him about it. It's 166 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: just let them have what they like. You love the 167 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: person and not all their things. But serre's the thing, 168 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: my buddy, Brad WENZELI his wife just never understood how 169 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: he could love wrestling. I was so stupid. She saw 170 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: how much time he was watching and she just couldn't 171 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: believe it. What eventually made her come over and be 172 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: a wrestling fan was the fact that Mick Foley could 173 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: play Dude Love, Mankind, and Cactus Jack in the same 174 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: episode of a wrestling maybe it was a pay per 175 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: view when he came out to the Royal Rumble, I 176 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: think as all different characters, and she saw the way 177 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: she saw the way that like we treated that one 178 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: man who's clearly got multiple personalities or schizophrenia or whatever 179 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: the character's supposed to be. We the way we saw 180 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: it is three different people, like, yeah, dude loves here now, 181 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: which is like so funny. She was like, Oh, I 182 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: get it. I get why this is fun and why 183 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: this is silly. So like it was, it's almost like 184 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: dude Love, Cactus Jack, and Mankind fit the bill of 185 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: Mankind's kind of lovable, Like I'm struggling with who I 186 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: am to fit the storyline of like, oh, when he 187 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: wants to be cool, he's dude Love, and when he 188 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: when he when he's got to do business, he's cacked 189 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: his jack. And the real guy's kind of mankind like 190 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: this like tortured to have a nice day, you know, 191 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: kind of guy. So I think that that characters is 192 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: super complex, even if they didn't mean for it to be. 193 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: We might be giving him too much credit, but it 194 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: is really layered. If you if you if you want 195 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: to believe. 196 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: That about him, If if they did get lucky, and 197 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: I believe they did, that's even more credit to Mick Foley, sure, 198 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: because then it's it's ninety nine point nine nine percent 199 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: on him. I mean that that promo he did in 200 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: the bowels of that that arena with the rat was, Yeah. 201 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: What was it like in the boiler room or something? 202 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: The boiler room? Yeah, yeah, they were gonna have a 203 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: boiler room bro I think was the name of the match. 204 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Never been done before. It's perfect, But all that like 205 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: his voice even in that promo, like it's he's not 206 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: trying to scare anybody. He's just explaining, like what's gonna happen. 207 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: And it also just seems like he doesn't really want 208 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: to be that guy. He's he seems like a sweet guy. 209 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: He's been pushed into a corner and now he's got 210 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: a fight. He's he's ripping his hair around. 211 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: Tells people to have a nice day, man, like he 212 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: wants everyone to be happy. There's a lot of dude 213 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: love in mankind to me, the very worst storyline, not 214 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: the worst, but one of the worst was between Kurt 215 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: Angle and Booker T. And it's a shame because their 216 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: matches were I'll say this for the attitude there. I 217 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: think I've said this before. Their matches are the best, 218 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: the best. It was the storylines that made me want 219 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: to change a channel because they were ridiculous and beyond 220 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: the beyond the pale, all right, But this one in 221 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: particular was Kurt Angle versus Booker T to see Who's 222 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: gonna get Booker T's wife, Queen Charmel, And Kurt Angle 223 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: has a promo where he talks about how he's not 224 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: just into sexuality, he's into beast reality. Yeah, and he 225 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: commits so hard. You see him trying so hard to 226 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: get this over that you legit. We're like, yo, Kurt 227 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: Angle's coming off like a crazy psychopath in this and 228 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep a straight face while watching it 229 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: and I can't. I can't, like, I can't do it. 230 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 1: It was so hard to watch, and I just I'm 231 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: sure you loved it. I just don't know how. I 232 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: don't know how it got over. I don't know how 233 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: does someone say yes, when they get pitched that. So 234 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: here's the pitch, Jeff, We're gonna have Booker T and 235 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Kurt Angle to wrestle. But but Kurt Angle has ulterior motives. 236 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: He wants the one thing Booker T could never live without. 237 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: King Booker loves his queen. He wants Queen Charmel. Oh okay, 238 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, but he doesn't want to have sex 239 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: with her. He wants to have best reality sex with 240 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: her and working to say that on live national television. Ah, god, damn, 241 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: that's a great idea, Like, how does that here? 242 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: Here's how the restler responds. What did Vince say? Vince said, 243 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: that's a good idea. Yeah, let's try it. 244 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: Let's try it. 245 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: I just want to keep my job. I'd like to 246 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: keep my job. 247 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: You a lie, dude. 248 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: There's no way anyone. There's no way anyone in This 249 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: isn't even a modern day thing. It's not like we're 250 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: looking backwards and going, well it was a different time, beast. 251 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: Reality has never been a thing that anybody was like, 252 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: well it is nineteen ninety two. No, it's always been 253 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: a problems or not a problem. It's always been a 254 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: thing that's been frowned upon. Even now, in the most 255 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: wildly sexual liberal times of history of our planet, people 256 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: are still going no, no, no, no, not beast reality. 257 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: That's not part of the group. 258 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: Everything else I have to be okay with, but not that, 259 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: not that. 260 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: One that's still inappropriate. 261 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: And then the two best or one you mentioned already 262 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: and we've talked about it before, but I can talk 263 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: about it all day long, every day because I love 264 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: wrestling is Stone Cold and Vince McMahon because it's the 265 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: employee beating the crafts out of their boss fantasy coming 266 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: true for all of us. And the other one is 267 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:19,479 Speaker 1: Eddie Guerrero and Raymi Sterio and the hoosier poppy dominic storyline. 268 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: I loved this. Now I will say this, I love 269 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: every story that Eddie's been in, even the bad ones, 270 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: all right, because I loved Eddie Guerrero. He wrestled so 271 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: differently than everyone else. He broke rules as a good guy. 272 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I always liked the bad 273 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: guys because they broke the rules. The little sheet they 274 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: would grab the rope to get more leverage on the submission, 275 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: and the ref would be like, ah, I can't do that, 276 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: and he's okay, I'll do it again, and they would 277 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: never get disqualified, so why would you stop? And this 278 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: was a good guy. People were cheering for him, and 279 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: it made me feel just and rooting for the Iron 280 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: Sheet back in the day as anti American as I 281 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: must have. The Hoosier Poppy one was like nighttime soap opera, 282 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: like melrose Place or Dallas or Falcon's Crest back in 283 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: the day, the hardcore no Falcon's Crest, but Dallas was 284 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: like the more mainstream one, right, and it was the 285 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: Ewing family and all that kind of craft, very Game 286 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: of Thrones but in the oil industry, and this had 287 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: that kind of drama because it was I slept with 288 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: this person. You slept with this person who's really his father. 289 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: And they brought Ray's actual son out there for these 290 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: segments and he was such this he's not asshole dominic 291 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: that we all hate today and is already so over. 292 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: The moment he opens his mouth, they bow him. This 293 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: was sweet boy, looked like he was ten years old 294 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: looking up into the eyes of his father. So heartbreaking. 295 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: And then to get to watch them fight, and I 296 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: had seen them fight in WCW when Eddie was ripping 297 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: off Luchador's masks and shit being the most disrespectful professional 298 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: wrestler in the game, and then to get to watch 299 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: them do that magic all over again and even evolve 300 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: it so much because they were both so much better 301 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: was just crazy. So that I can give love to 302 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: the Attitude era, just only twice. 303 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: So because we've talked so much about the Vince mcmon 304 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: getting his ass beat by his employee or Vince or 305 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: stone Call getting to beat up his boss, I'd like 306 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: to say maybe put this out there for debate. There 307 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: is a show called Dark Side of the Ring that 308 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: Chris Jericho and Team Mayeah. 309 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: I've seen this. 310 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: Season three just came out there on Vice. You can 311 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: watch them on YouTube, you can watch them on a 312 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: lot of things. There's an episode season two, episode seven. 313 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: It's it's about David Schultz, the guy who slapped the 314 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: reporter to be like, is that real? It does that 315 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: seem fake? 316 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: John John Moffett I think was the guy's name, something 317 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: like that, Mastaf something like that, and screw that guy. Man. 318 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucked, And that's what they try to make 319 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: the tire episode about. But what's fascinating is when they're 320 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: introducing the wrestling fans or the viewer who might not 321 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: be aware of wrestling at all, because you don't need 322 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: to like wrestling to watch those episodes. 323 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: They're very good. 324 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: They introduce you to a wrestler named David Schultz. Now, 325 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: everything about David Schultz and everything about what David Schultz 326 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: and Vince McMahon told storyline was almost like the dress 327 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: rehearsal for what they did with Stone Cold Steve Austin. 328 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: They did every single thing that you see Stone Cold 329 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: do with Vince, David Schultz once did with Vince, and 330 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: he was the most over bad guy in all of 331 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: like wrestling until that slap. When the slap happened, they're like, shit, 332 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna get sued. Let's send him off to Japan. 333 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: Maybe we can revisit this when he comes back. Or 334 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: like once this kind of whole thing blows over, and 335 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: then David Schultz basically got like blacklisted because it cost 336 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: the company so much money and it was a huge thing. 337 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: But they did everything they did, David Schultz pulling a 338 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: gun on Vince and Vince being like a is that loaded? 339 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: Like? 340 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 2: And the whole thing is they kind of did a 341 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: more candy corn version of that. 342 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: When it came to that's right, they had like a 343 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: promo of him with his family and he was like 344 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: like beating his kids something. 345 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: Remble thing where it was like this guy who's just 346 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: a real Texas rattlesnake who ain't afraid to tell the 347 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 2: boss how it is, and I'm just that's the guy 348 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: that I and he was getting. He was over as 349 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: a bad guy same way stone Cold was very not 350 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: a classic face or babyface. It worked, and so I 351 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: think that's interesting. It was almost like he learned from 352 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: his mistakes because they got a lot of trouble being 353 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: like David Schultz is like literally like talking trash to 354 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: his wife and being like don't talk back, and like 355 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: smacking his children around, and then like pulling a real 356 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: gun on Vince McMahon. And so then they took those 357 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: elements and they're like, all right, well, Vince stone Cold 358 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: could be like a white trash guy, but we don't 359 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: want him hitting a woman, so let's leave that out 360 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: of there. Even though Vince even a Stonecold, did do 361 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 2: that in real life a few times. But then they 362 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: kept the parts that worked, you know, the parts of 363 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: like him screw with the boss and him, you know, 364 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: not taking no ship from nobody. And then they kept 365 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: the gun part, except instead it had a little flag 366 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: that said bang that made Vince p himself in the ring. 367 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: It's almost that they took everything they learned from the 368 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: David Schultz Vince McMahon's story and made it a bigger, better, 369 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: stronger thing. That made Stone Cold the biggest wrestler in 370 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: in arguably the history. 371 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: Of He became famous for something else after he stopped resting. 372 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: He became like a bounty hunter and like, which was crazy. 373 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: There was a case in Puerto Rico that he helped out. 374 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: I remember my Poppoles had a butcher shop that was 375 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: close to the place where he busted a guy in 376 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, and that's why. That's right. He was a 377 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: bounty hunter and thought he was a cop. 378 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was like, it was amazing how good 379 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: he was at it. He was like immediately good at 380 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: being a bounty hunter, which is kind of funny. 381 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: Next, he beat your ass for real, dude. Guy was 382 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: big And I. 383 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: Think the worst storyline that I can think of off 384 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: the top of my head, they did a story where 385 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: Triple H was is revealing the past of Cain, and 386 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: in the story, he was like, I don't know how 387 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: this even got passed. You're talking about pitching episode or 388 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: pitching storylines to wrestlers, and how did they agree. Basically, 389 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: they alleged that Cain was so in love with a 390 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: woman that he not only like sexually assaulted her, but 391 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: she died, he killed her. And Triple H tells the 392 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: story of how like this whole thing was covered and 393 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: that's why that's why Caine was really gone so long, 394 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: is because he had done this terrible thing to a woman, 395 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: and like, and the story is so awful that it 396 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: shows Triple H going into the coffin of the young 397 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: lady that is deceased and Triple H having sex on 398 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 2: television with a woman in a coffin and you can't 399 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: see them. I swear to you as you look it 400 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: up as the worst storyline I've ever ever seen. And 401 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: I know the only reason I remember it is because 402 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: I was alive. It's not like I went looking for 403 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 2: the worst things. Like I remember being like, this is crazy, 404 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: Kane did that, Like Kane Martin, Like I was really 405 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: because I'm you know, even now struggle with what's real 406 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: and what storyline. I definitely was struggling with it when 407 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: I was twelve, So I'm going away. Did Kane really 408 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: kill lady? Wait? I can't support this guy. He killed 409 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: the lady and like it was really, really, really gross, 410 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 2: a really weird story that sounds worse than the Hull 411 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: Cogan Kevin Sullivan when it gets transported to. 412 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: The nether world that he's like, where's all the whole 413 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: Commandia like caring for and he's horrified and scared. 414 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: Do you think that was a suburban commando idea? 415 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: God? I hope not. 416 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 2: I think maybe they were doing that because they were 417 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: trying to like segue into like him doing the movies 418 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: because Kevin Sullivan's in suburban Commando. 419 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: Can't Oh my god. I let's rank actors or wrestlers 420 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: turned actors from worse to first. Here we go, Okay, worst, 421 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Hull Cogan because he was absolutely horrible 422 00:21:54,080 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: in all those movies. You Haul Cogan's the worst acting movies. Yeah, 423 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: then from there it gets significantly better. If you count 424 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: Zeu's Tiny Zeus's Lister, then we could now he'd be 425 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: high up there because he was good in Friday. Next 426 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: would be The Rock, then would be John Cena, and 427 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: then I put Batista at the top of that list 428 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: because that dude gets better every single movie. 429 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: Knocking the Cabin by m Night Shanala. 430 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, bro. And here's what's crazy is like, and 431 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: John and The Rock both are good actors, but they're 432 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 1: doing the same thing. Like that's their vein, they know it, 433 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: that's their that's their brand, and they stick with that. 434 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: That's never going to challenge you and and help you 435 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: evolve until they do something like an independence out of 436 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: that character. Dave won't do the same character twice unless 437 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: it's a sequel, like, he just won't. Like he challenges 438 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: himself constantly with different types of roles, from that weird 439 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: hospital movie with Jody Foster where he's the orderly all 440 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: the way to knock at the Cabin all the way 441 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: to doune all the way to everything he does is different. Man, 442 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: he's tried like a kid comedy. He's tried. I think 443 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: he's tried a cop comedy. Eventually, I'm sure he'll do 444 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: a wrong com like. I know he's looking for different 445 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: stuff and I respect him so much for that. But 446 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: he's the best actor out of every wrestler. 447 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: I think honorable mention is Andre the Giant Princess Bride. 448 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: Double honorable mention, Andre And I forgot Roddy Roddy Piper 449 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: from They Live. I forget artwork of of that movie 450 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: all over my house. Our Hell Comes to Frogtown. Roddy 451 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: Piper was in, which was really good. Andre the Giant 452 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: also played Sasquatch and the Million Dollar manth he did, 453 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: but that wasn't acting. You just grunted, Yeah, but he 454 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: was cool. 455 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: I just it's two of my favorite was cool Bigfoot 456 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 2: and a wrestler tow of my favorite things. Sasha Banks 457 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: is in Mandalorian. Let's give that time her have more work. Yeah, 458 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: let her have more work on camera and then she 459 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: can she can work her way into that into that 460 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: group as long as Yard had a bunch of wrestlers 461 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: in it. And there's a scene that is so cringey 462 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: that I feel like if anybody started to like flare, 463 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: like just even start to put that on, maybe TikTok 464 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: or something like Stone Cold would like lose his career 465 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: if more people we're aware of that scene. It is 466 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: so cringey. Kevin Nash played Super Shredder and teenage Mutant 467 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: Ninja Turtles, and was also in that Stripper movie. 468 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: So that's pretty big shout out to Kevin Nash. I 469 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: love Kevin Nash. I got to work with him a 470 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: little bit. I love love Kevin Nash an E Show, 471 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: and he was so cool. Dude, he's such a cool guy. 472 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: Who's talking to me about PRP, that platelet replacement stuff 473 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: where they take your cells out and spin them and 474 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: then read. 475 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: Maybe that's his secret and that's how he got to 476 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 2: be six foot ten and looking great at age whatever. 477 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: I feel like he and I look a lot alike, 478 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't you agree? 479 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: You and Kevin Nash, Yeah, you're not six foot ten. 480 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: He's a freak. 481 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: But I'm up there. I'm up there. 482 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think the worst actors, and this will be 483 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: very controversial, the worst wrestler actors, because I agree with 484 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: you Bautis is number one. Him as Drax is so good, 485 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: and him him as He's the Mass just such a 486 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: good actor. So I think the worst and maybe i'm biased. 487 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: Ron Around terrible. She was in What is Expendable? She's 488 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: still like pretty. 489 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: Much any kind of action. 490 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's terrible. And then I think John Cena is 491 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: not good. I think John Cena was phenomenal in the 492 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 2: movie train Wreck, and I was like, oh, this dude 493 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: can act like that was really good and he there 494 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: was good delivery. 495 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: Good times with that romantic comedy, right yeah, and Amy. 496 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 2: Schumer is a professional comedian, so the script was probably 497 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 2: so funny that it was easy to make John Cena 498 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: look funny because John Cena knows how to read lines 499 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: and whatever. He was great and it was very, very funny, 500 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, man, he's got a future 501 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: in acting. And then everything he's done since I don't 502 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: buy it, he has to play like some crazy character 503 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 2: that doesn't That might only work because the character's so crazy. 504 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: Like let's say Dave Bautista as Jack. Like let's say 505 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 2: everything else he did was bad. You could be like, well, 506 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: maybe Daq was just an easy character to play because 507 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: it's very one dimensional. So I think that's what happened 508 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: with Cena. I don't think he's that great of an actor. 509 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: I think he was in One good Thing, and the 510 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: same with ron A Rousei. She points a gun at 511 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: people and runs around as an action star. It's like 512 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: those are the two worst I think. I think whul 513 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 2: Cogan just doesn't know how to be anybody. 514 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: But Huld Cogan, Well, that's not as fault exactly. 515 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: That's why. That's why I'm not saying he's the worst, 516 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: is because I think hol Gogan's just like I'm the 517 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: hosture baby. Whether you make him an alien or whether 518 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: you make him a nanny, he's gonna be like, oh 519 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: what's up, bro? 520 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Like, that's what I'm saying. He's not He's not an 521 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: act to me. It's like Ronda Rousey. He's not an actor. 522 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not fair too. 523 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: He just doesn't know how to do it. 524 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So all right, those are mine. 525 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: Well, this episode was all over the place, but I 526 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun doing it. You guys, stay 527 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: tuned for Thursday. Bonus content will touch a little bit 528 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: on my favorite storyline that I was ever a part 529 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: of and will probably side quest and go off the 530 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: rails again on that too on Behalf of Jeff. I 531 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: will see y'all Thursday. 532 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: Pece, We Love you. 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