1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: Oh, welcome. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: In Wednesday edition, play Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: This is Buck's final show of the year. 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: He's like a kid getting out for Christmas break, So 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: sprint through the close here. I'll be with you guys 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: on Thursday and Friday, and then it is officially into 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: the holiday season. We will have a lot of great 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: guest hosts, as we always do. We will get into 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: some of that down the line, but a bunch of 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: different stories that are out there. Susie Wiles, the White 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: House Chief of Staff, did a Vanity Fair interview that 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: is just a colossal miss stake in terms of intent, 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: delivery everything. We're going to dive into some of it. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: We've got the Brown University shooter. I know Buck that 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: you talked about this quite a bit yesterday. But the 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: more this continues, the stranger and stranger the entire story 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: appears to me. And we've got a lot of other 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: different stories to run into, but let's start with this 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: Susie Wiles Vanity Fair piece, and I'll give you a 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: couple of takes, Buck, and you tell me if you 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: sign on if you disagree. I think this is Susie 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: Wiles's biggest misstep since she became chief of staff in 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: one year. Now, I do think, probably on a positive side, 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: the overall fact that virtually no one has lost his 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: or her job in year one of Trump two point 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: zero is not discussed enough, but is almost one hundred 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: percent a function buck. I think of the lesson Trump 28 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: learned in his first term, which is, whenever somebody has 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: some sort of controversy that emerges about them and you 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: decide to fire them, you're not going to quell the 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: criticism that comes from the legacy media outlets. You're just 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: going to get put more blood in the water. They're 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: going to come after somebody new. We have talked about 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: this a ton on the show. Pete heg Set is 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: probably the most attacked member of the administration by far 36 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: in year one in second place, I would say probably 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: AREFK Junior, and then I would put Pambondi probably in 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: there at third place, And then other members of the 39 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: administration have been attacked, but much less significantly. And so 40 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: the fact that she decided to do this interview, that 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: they all set for these elite vanity fair photo ops, 42 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: and they expected that it would be in some way 43 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: a fair reflection of the conversations that took place as 44 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: just a colossal miscalculation. And what I would say about 45 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: this in general, Buck is what are you thinking. 46 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: You should never ever? Ever? 47 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: There are a lot of Republican senators and congressmen and 48 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: their staffs who listen to this. I don't understand how 49 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: many people get bit by this. If you are giving 50 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: your time and effort and quotes to legacy media institutions, 51 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: the absolute least that they could do is share every 52 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: single thing that you said on the record and let 53 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: people go watch or listen to that. I think if 54 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: you're doing anything other than live interviews, anything other than 55 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: full form podcast interviews, you're totally misunderstanding the power dynamic 56 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: at play here. You can't talk all day and allow 57 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: them to cherry pick quotes. So I can't believe that 58 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: she would fall for this. I read it yesterday and 59 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: I just my jaw dropped over the fact that she 60 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: had given this writer this much control and power. 61 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's a blunder, but it's going to pass. 62 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: It doesn't really matter. There's nothing that no one's going 63 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: to get fired over there. It's not going to change. 64 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: But I do think it's instructive in that we keep 65 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: making the same blunders. 66 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: Shouldn't that be addressed? 67 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: So my theory about the show Game of Thrones, which 68 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: I think does very much descend into nihilism and maybe well, well, 69 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: in the final seasons it just collapses into nonsense. But 70 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: I think overall the show doesn't really have much as 71 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: much as I enjoyed, it doesn't really have a heart 72 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: and soul. 73 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: Although the takeaway. 74 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: I have from it is that hubris is the is 75 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 3: the ultimate sin, or vanity is the ultimate sin. If 76 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: you look at all the characters that have really bad 77 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: things happen to them that you that you're rooting for, 78 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: hubris is what brings them down. And I think one 79 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: of the challenges that conservatives have in general, and this 80 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: isn't unique to this instance. 81 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: We see this with. 82 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: Whenever some you know, third tier celebrity says anything conservative 83 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: and conservatives go, oh, my gosh, did you see this 84 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 3: guy who was playing the you know, number four lead 85 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: in a sitcom from the eighties. Now, there are some 86 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: conservatives who are from me from a you know, entertainm entemy, 87 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: like James Woods is a brilliant guy and a great 88 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: commentator and a very accomplished actor. 89 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: Right. 90 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: I'm fine with that, but I mean when people go 91 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: after some one thing that a person says, it's like, 92 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: we want to pat on the head so badly from 93 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: somebody who's cool and famous that will just do anything 94 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 3: for it. There was a bit of this also when 95 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: in the early days when people were so excited about 96 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: Kanye and his relationship and Kim Kardashian and her relationship 97 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: with Trump. I was like, guys, slow your role with 98 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: this a little bit. Vanity Fair is a prestige a 99 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: prestige journal. I think it's communist propaganda and it's written 100 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: by the enemy, but it's something that people see when 101 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: they go into a fancy you know, doctor's office out 102 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: on the table, or they go to a fancy law 103 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: office or something. 104 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: And I think it's very hard right now for a 105 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: White House that is racking up so. 106 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: Many wins to think that anybody could really uh puncture 107 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: their their balloon of greatness right now. So I think 108 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: there was a bit of I think there was a 109 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: bit of hubris in thinking that they could maneuver around 110 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: this and not get got. But I also think that 111 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: this is a tempest in a teapot. Who really cares 112 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: everyone's gonna keep working together. Everyone knows that this was 113 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: a hit job, So what's what really, what difference does 114 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: it make? My concern is it's just, I mean, it's 115 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: a judgment error. And to your point, I don't even 116 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: know anybody who reads Vanity Fair, So I guess it 117 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: would be nice if Vanity Fair wrote an incredible profile 118 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: about me. 119 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would see it, like if you know, 120 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: like I just I don't think most of the people 121 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: that have any idea I exist even have open to 122 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: Vanity Fair magazine. 123 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: So I'm wondering. Yeah, my big issue. 124 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: I actually think there's something important from this too, though, 125 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I hubris might be the thing that I 126 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: view as how they fell into this a little bit, 127 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: which I understand because the Trump administration has just completely 128 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: schalacked its opponents for the last year, I mean ever 129 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: since the election. Are just they've been on defense, defense, defense, 130 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: the opponents of Trump and this administration. But I think 131 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: this is a good reminder of clay because I've been 132 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: saying it all along. Kamala lost by two hundred and 133 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: fifty thousand votes over a handful of states, basically in 134 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: a country of three hundred and fifty million people, give 135 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: or take. That is a razor thin actual margin. I know, 136 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: the electoral college win was big, and it was an 137 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: incredible story with Trump, we've celebrated that all along. 138 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: My point is merely. 139 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: There's still a lot of people that would have voted 140 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: for Kamala, and there are a lot of people who 141 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: are going to vote for the next Democrat, and the 142 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: midterms are coming up, and the opposition is every bit 143 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: is dedicated. Yeah, they've been beaten a few rounds clay, 144 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: but they're. 145 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: About to get back in the ring. 146 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: So I think that this is a little bit of 147 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: a media haymaker that the Trump administration caught on the jaw, 148 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: and it's probably a good reminder as we go into 149 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: this midterm year. Yeah, the other side, they're still gunning 150 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: for us. Yeah, No, I think that's one hundred percent right. 151 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: I will say there were two bits of news that 152 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: I thought were interesting from the Vanity Fair piece. First 153 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: of all, again, let me just say it's a colossal 154 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: miscalculation that you would spend this much time with a 155 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 3: writer when his opening paragraph bucks as nine people died 156 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: in the Jan six terror attack. Basically nine people, I 157 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: mean that's a complete and total lie. I do think 158 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: the fact that they reiterated yet again that Marco Rubio 159 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: is not going to run against jd Vance and that 160 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: he will support jd Vance if he runs. Jd Vance 161 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: is going to enter twenty twenty seven after the midterms 162 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: as I think the biggest favorite for a nomination on 163 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: the Republican side since go back in time with me 164 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: Bod George H. W. Bush after Ronald Reagan? Would would 165 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 3: that be the I mean it will have been now. 166 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he's one hundred percent going to 167 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: be the nominee, but if Marco Rubio is not going 168 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: to run against him in twenty twenty seven, there is 169 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: going to be a patna of expectation surrounding jd Vance, 170 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: the likes. 171 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: Of did you just say Patna? I thought it was 172 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: pronounced Patna. I think it's Patina research P number. 173 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: There'll be a number of expectation I think I pronounced 174 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: that one right, that is completely surrounding jd Vance, that 175 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 2: he's going to be an aura of expectation that he's 176 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: going to be the nominee. And then the second part, uh, 177 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: when we have our our fact check there on my pronunciation. Also, 178 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: this I thought was kind of interesting. Susie Wiles absolutely 179 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: hammered Pam Bondi on the Epstein thing quote. I think 180 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: she completely whiffed on appreciating that was the very targeted 181 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 2: group that cared about this. First she gave them binders 182 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: full of nothingness, and then she said the witness list 183 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: or the client list was on her desk. There is 184 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: no client list, and it's sure as hell wasn't on 185 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: her desk. I mean for the chief of staff to 186 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 2: just I mean, she's right in all that, but for 187 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: the chief of staff to pull out a two by 188 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: four and just whack the attorney general on that. I 189 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: presume Susie Wiles set all that face to face with 190 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: Pambondy at some point in time too. But I did 191 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: think that was a pretty significant I kind of read 192 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: that and I was like, whoo, that was a pretty 193 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: significant two by four. 194 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: But you have to also remember it is widely believed 195 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: Susie and Bondi have a close relationship stretching back to Florida. 196 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: It is widely believed that the reason Pambondi did not 197 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: get fired over that is Susie Wiles. So she threw 198 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: herself in front of Trump's very understandable rage at that 199 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: situation because it's totally unforced error. But you know, again Clay, 200 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 3: yes people are talking about it, so we have to 201 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: talk about it for a second. But I feel like 202 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: we cover it by just saying, or rather it is 203 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: covered the topic. We've gotten what we want out of 204 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: it by reminding the administration, that regime media. I know 205 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: that seems weird because Trump is the administration, but I 206 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: mean the forever regime, you know, the Democrat apparatus media 207 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: or will do everything they can to destroy Trump. They 208 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: have learned no lessons. They are no more ethical, they 209 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 3: are no more honest, and they really really want to 210 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: impeach him again, make sure the Democrats have the House 211 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: in order to do so, and they want to push 212 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: all of them. There's nothing about what Biden did. The 213 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: problem that they have with Biden is merely that the 214 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: border was so bad and he was so inept and 215 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: then so clearly had dementia that he costs them power. 216 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: But Clay, all the policies that were being written in 217 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: Biden's name for him, they. 218 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Want to pursue all that stuff again. 219 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: They want to go right Vanity Fair wants to go 220 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: right back to the White House putting out statements about 221 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: how twelve year olds need gender reassignment surgery like they 222 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: want that. 223 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: So they've changed nothing. 224 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: I hope they have learned not to do this again, 225 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: but the fact that they had to learn this lesson 226 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: again is tough. By the way, big win for me 227 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: and the opener of the show. My pronunciation, according to 228 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:32,359 Speaker 2: Merriam Webster Dictionary, is acceptable as both pronunciations are acceptable. 229 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: That is according to producer Greg's research, which I've always said, 230 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 2: Producer Greg is an elite research talent. 231 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: I mean, you go, you google it and it says 232 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: puck t nuh. So that is the American pronunciation pronunciation 233 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: I've I've never heard it pronounce a different way. But 234 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: then I've learned something. I've learned something new. But Clay, 235 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: I feel like we could take a draw on that one, 236 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: so you can. 237 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: Go both ways. 238 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: I feel very comfortable that I have renounce something for 239 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: once in my life in an accurate way. You know 240 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: what else? I feel comfortable about the Cozy Earth blankets. 241 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: They are absolutely phenomenal. They have the blanket, They've also 242 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: got the bamboo sheets, perfect combination of luxury, comfort and 243 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:18,119 Speaker 2: relaxation all in one. Fabrics are incredibly soft, smooth, and breathable. 244 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: Whole team's been raving about the bubble Cuddle blankets. They 245 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: are the bubble Cuddle blanket. I mean that, first of all, 246 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: how could something called the bubble cuddle blanket not be 247 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: an absolutely incredible blanket. I mean, it's like smuckers right, 248 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: like it's got to be good with the name like that. 249 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: We've even heard from. 250 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: Public people that say they're pets love the bubble Cuddle blankets. 251 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: You will love them too. Right now, use my name Clay. 252 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: You get twenty percent off right now at cozyearth dot 253 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: com code Clay. That's cozyearth dot com, code Clay, cozyearth 254 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: dot com code Clay. Get hooked up today twenty percent. 255 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: Off Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Mike drops that never 256 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: sounded so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 257 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcasts. 258 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: Whether you're lighting a candle on the manora or placing 259 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: Baby Jesus in the Nativity. 260 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: We hope your holiday is full of grace, wonder and 261 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: love and maybe even a little snow. 262 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas and happy honikah from all of us at 263 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: the Clay and Buck Show. 264 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. 265 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: So we have a lot of stories that are all right, 266 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: Producer Greg settled down, settled down, all right, he's really 267 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: you know, the thing is in my back on this. 268 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: He totally don't like me. You mess with Producer Greg's 269 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: on the fly research skills, and you know, you might 270 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: as well insult his puppy or something. 271 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he is, he is throwing down over this one. 272 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: All right. 273 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: It's very clear that they're that the most common Okay, 274 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: the most common pronunciation in English is patina, but there 275 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: is a an alternative pronunciation, which is British English. Mister 276 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: Klay Travis of London Patna. Okay, that's from So it's cool. 277 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: If you lived in the UK, I would say that 278 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: makes maybe you go to the theater with your passnah, 279 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 3: but yes it is tacnically both allowed in English. 280 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: And there you go. 281 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: So I was hoping we're gonna get the word police 282 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: to pull you over, just one last one last time, 283 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: write you a word pronunciation ticket at the very end, 284 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: and uh yeah, Producer Ali's dad is British. 285 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: That's how he says it, but something something. 286 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm sorry for just having a little class and 287 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: just a little bit of. 288 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: Jeanna Saint cuax As. 289 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I like how the guy, the 290 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: born and raised Tennessee guy throwing some British English into 291 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: the mix. 292 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: Here, it's there, you go. Maybe I'm gonna have to 293 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: get a vet in the Vanity Fair subscription. 294 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be gonna be reading about all the high 295 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: class people that I didn't even know existed. 296 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: And it's gonna actually ask you this legitimately. 297 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: If Vanity said I want to do a profile on 298 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: let's just say Clay and Buck Show, I want to 299 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: do both sit down with both of us. Would you 300 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: be willing to do it on the precondition that we 301 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: have a recording of all the questions, or would you 302 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: just do it and think that we could negotiate around 303 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: what they would ask us knowing that. 304 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean, look the photo they picked the. 305 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: Caroline Levitt, I mean, that's just they're just it's especially 306 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: if you compare us to the a very good looking 307 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: young woman, and to pick that photo of her, it's 308 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: like they found a you know, a large poor somewhere 309 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: in her face and went to like microscopic size on it. 310 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 311 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: Look, I I think the only way it's a good question, 312 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: the only way you can do an interview with somebody. 313 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: So yes, I would say yes on Vanity Fair and 314 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: you say, well, you just criticized the White House for 315 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: doing it. I would insist that every interview be completely 316 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: recorded and that I have the ability to post a 317 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: transcript of the entire thing. And then when they selectively 318 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: edited my quotes to make it sound like we had 319 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: said and you had said, and certainly they would I 320 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: had said crazy things that are unacceptable, I would say, actually, 321 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: here's the full quotes, and everybody would read them and 322 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: they would say, yeah, that sounds like something Klay Travis 323 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: would say, that sounds like something Buck Sexton would say. Also, 324 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: I would do it because oftentimes there is an advantage 325 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: in being attacked by legacy left wing media because it 326 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 2: just reinforces the criticisms that we have for them. So, 327 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: worst case scenario, they write awful things about us, what 328 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: do I care? Best case scenario, maybe they actually managed 329 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: to do a somewhat fair piece, and it just increases 330 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: the number of people that might decide, hey, maybe I 331 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: should listen to those guys on the radio. 332 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: You know we haven't played yet that we need to 333 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: come men to get to it yesterday. But talking about 334 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: opposition media, Landman a show that you like Verhaoh. Yes, 335 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: Kerry likes it too. I'm I'm I'm wishy washy on it, 336 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: but I do. I actually haven't ever watched it. I 337 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: like the clips that I saw. I need to watch 338 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 3: a la The clips are the best part of it. 339 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: I'll tell you a lot of it kind of is 340 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 3: not as great as I think it should be. But 341 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: there's the Landman weighs in on the view and we 342 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: have that cut and you should hear it. 343 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: Christmas Spirit coming your way. 344 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: Gold and silver are great investments for those who have 345 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: purchased them in the last year. 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Text my name Buck Do ninety 362 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: eight ninety eight ninety to claim your eligibility for this offer. 363 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: Text Buck to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight Today. 364 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. 365 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 2: I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I 366 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: wanted to play this because I've tried to be in 367 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: the holiday spirit. But the reality is everybody in New 368 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: York City's in trouble. Well actually we'll get to that 369 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: in a sec. But this is Landman. You referenced it, 370 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: so we don't forget. This is the Landman taking a 371 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: shot at the view. One of the things I may 372 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: do once football season is over is dive into Landman 373 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: Season one, which I heard was very good. But I 374 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: think they're on season two and I believe it is 375 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: bad and has not been very entertained. That's what I've 376 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 2: heard from others. But here is the view shot from Landman. 377 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: It sounds a little bit like maybe we got some 378 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck listeners in the writing staff of the 379 00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: Landman Show. 380 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: Listen, I don't know what to do. 381 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 3: Whatever you want to write a book when daytime talk. 382 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: Shows you don't like to view or something? What's the view? 383 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 3: A bunch of pissed off millionaires mentioned about how much 384 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: they hate millionaires and Trump and Man and you and me. 385 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: And everybody else. I gotta be up there ass about 386 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: it's pretty funny. 387 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 3: You funny? I jump FINA's like park church By you 388 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 389 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: That's no sound funny. It depends on your proximity. 390 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: To the part. 391 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: All right, So that is lamb Man A little bit 392 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: hard to hear that audio, but mocking the ladies on 393 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: the view for being millionaires upset with other millionaires are doing. 394 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: And uh we will continue to to follow that. There's 395 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: a press conference going on right now. Uh In I'm 396 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: looking right now and update Buck. I know you talked 397 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: about this a lot yesterday, and we talked about it 398 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 2: some on Monday. They are having an updated press conference. Sorry, 399 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: that's the press conference yesterday that they're reacting to on 400 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: the on. 401 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: The Fox News. 402 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: I watched all I read, all the coverage and everything else. 403 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: Are you as befuddled as I am that we could 404 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 2: be in a situation where it appears they have no 405 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: idea how to catch this guy who was the shooter 406 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: and even the imagery that they potentially have of the shooter. 407 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: I know we've got some audio from that press conference. 408 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 2: Let me hit a little bit of that and uh 409 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: and pull it up here. Uh, this was trying to 410 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: explain what's going on. 411 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: Uh. They say they don't have a motive. Cut three, 412 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: There is no. 413 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 5: Information that the investigative team has about motive zero zero. 414 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 5: There's nothing about even if even if taking at face 415 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 5: value what one or two witnesses may have said about 416 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 5: what something was said. Okay, and there are many witnesses 417 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 5: say nothing was said. There's nothing about what we know 418 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 5: was perhaps said that indicates any kind of motive that 419 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 5: is related at all to ethnicity or or political outlook 420 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 5: or culture. There's nothing at all that we know right 421 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 5: now about that. And I think that that is a 422 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 5: dangerous road to go down. Particularly in today's environment. 423 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, dangerous road to go down. Just tell us 424 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: the facts. Man. 425 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: By the way, I don't believe him. I'm just gonna 426 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: say this right now. I noticed he started parsing. There 427 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: anything that's relevant or whatever. Really, what's going on here? 428 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: Explain to me why there are all these people that 429 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: say that they have heard that someone heard, and yet 430 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 3: now we're told nothing. I'm sorry, it doesn't it doesn't 431 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 3: pass the smell test for me. 432 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: And then she says, let me, this is the Rhode 433 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: Island Attorney General saying, and this is a question that 434 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: a ton of you have been asking, why wasn't there 435 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: any footage? I know they keep showing additional footage of 436 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: this person. It appears to be a five foot eight 437 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: male figure, a little bit overweight, potentially, it's hard to 438 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: tell because of jackets and it's cold, wearing a mask. 439 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 2: You don't see a ton But here is cut four 440 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: saying why wasn't there better footage? They're asking crazily buck 441 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: people who might have had tesla's parked in the area. Hey, 442 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: can you guys check all of your cameras on your 443 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: car and see if you might have better footage? 444 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: Here? 445 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: They're asking for people in the neighborhood who might have 446 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: cameras to be able to help out. Here was cut 447 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: four trying to explain why there isn't better footage of 448 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: this shooter. 449 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 5: There was a major addition put on that building within 450 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 5: the last five years or so, that that is a 451 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 5: modern building attached to a much older one in the back. 452 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 5: So it doesn't come as a surprise to me at 453 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 5: least that there are members in the newer part of 454 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 5: the building and there is video footage. Okay, so there's 455 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 5: the back part of the building, old part, in front part, 456 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 5: new part. The shooting occurs in the old part towards 457 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 5: the back of towards Oak Street, and that older part 458 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 5: of the building. There are fewer, if any cameras in 459 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 5: that location, I imagine, because it's an older building. So as 460 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 5: students are fleeing the area of the shooting into the 461 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 5: new part of the building, there are cameras in that 462 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: in that brand new building that show that chaos. 463 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: But the only, but the only, the only. 464 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 5: Video of the of the presumed anticipated suspected however you 465 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 5: wanted to define it, person of interest, you have it. 466 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 5: We would release it if we thought it would be 467 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 5: helpful and identifying this subject. Because we are relying on 468 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 5: the press and public to help get us there, there 469 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 5: would be no reason for us to hold it back. 470 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: We're looking for the best. 471 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: Image we can. 472 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: Dan got to follow. 473 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 5: Up, I'm pretty sure thank you've explained that, because really 474 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 5: clarifies it. Although I'm for some people watching with think 475 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 5: a multi. 476 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: League school with the caging down and could have put 477 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: new cameras or nobody. 478 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I love that reporter following up. If you 479 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: didn't have you had trouble hearing him, he said, I 480 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: think a lot of people out there would say a 481 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: multi billion dollar university could find a way to put 482 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: cameras in an old building, even if it's an old building. 483 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: What is your reaction. 484 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: You've done investigations on cases that you know involve these 485 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: shootings like this before. Does this strike you as as 486 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: crazy as it does me that we could have such 487 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: limited information. They also are scrubbing evidently pages on the 488 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: internet because internet sleuths, let me just say this, they're 489 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: not always right in trying to identify suspects, So that 490 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: could be part of this that their people are trying 491 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: to figure out. Looking at faculty profiles, looking at student profiles, 492 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: who's five foot eight, who could have been. 493 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: In that area. 494 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: It's staggering to me that we could be sitting here, 495 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: you know, five days basically after the shooting and have 496 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: no idea who did it, and every day I think 497 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 2: bucket probably would become less likely. 498 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: That we would figure out who did this. Well, yes, 499 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: that's all true. 500 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: And I have also heard from people who are following 501 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 3: the investigation very closely that law enforcement feels like Brown 502 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: University is being less than helpful in some ways, that 503 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: the university is clearly very concerned about the messaging that 504 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 3: comes out of this whole thing, or the takeaway, if 505 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 3: you will, because look, we all understand, right if this 506 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 3: is let's just say, let's just lay this out. If 507 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: this was a and I do not believe this is 508 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: the case at all, have to be clear, but I'm 509 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: just trying to explain why Brown is. 510 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: According to people I know. 511 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: Who are talking to sources in law enforcement in Rhode Islands, 512 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 3: this is just last night. I was talking to them 513 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: that Brown is seeming like it doesn't really want to 514 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: just open up everything that it can and be as 515 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: helpful as possible. If the young woman for example, who 516 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: was killed here had been a former girlfriend of the shooter, 517 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: you would have a you know, a situation where it's 518 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: clearly a personal vendetta that has no broader thematic anything 519 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: other than a horrible murder of a beautiful young woman. Okay, 520 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 3: if this guy targeted a Republican on the campus, and 521 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: again we don't know that, but Brown is eighty percent 522 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: ninety percent, ninety five percent maybe Democrat. 523 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: The vice president of the Republican college campus was murdered. 524 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: She's one of the two people. 525 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: And the president has come out and said that he 526 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: thinks it's connected to her politics because she was well 527 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: known on campus for having conservative politics. 528 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: Right, President Trump? 529 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: No, no, no, the Brown president, sorry, president of the Brown Republican. 530 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: There we go. 531 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a lot of presidents. She was, she was 532 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 2: the vice president. He was the president. He has come 533 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: out and said, the college kid, who's the president? I 534 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: think she was targeted based on her politics. So you know, 535 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: I was. I was a college Republican. Clay, you were 536 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 2: a college libertine. So I remember what. 537 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: It was like. 538 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: You were doing kegstads for freedom. I remember what it 539 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: was like on campus. I was known everyone knew that 540 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: I was a Republican because because so few people were, 541 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 3: it was like a little tribe. It was a little 542 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: a little group of us that wore you know, Sperry 543 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: topsiders and blue blazers a lot, and you know, we 544 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 3: walked around tried not to get wedgies. And yes, we 545 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: we were the college Republicans. Everybody knew, right, so everyone 546 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: would have known, or largely would have known that this 547 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 3: young woman was a college Republican if in fact it 548 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 3: was political, and as you said, the head of their 549 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 3: College Republicans thinks it was. That causes a whole issue 550 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: for Brown because it also raises the why is it 551 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: that the standards for what you can say about Christians 552 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: and Republicans on a campus you can basically, you know, 553 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: chase them off, threaten them to do anything you want. 554 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: But if you were to say anything about like a 555 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: trans student, the university comes down and you look a 556 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: ton of bricks. 557 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: It's obvious. 558 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: And we went through this also with Jews and Muslims 559 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: on campus in places like Columbia University of New York. 560 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: Brown is concerned about this is my point here. Brown 561 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: University is like, uh oh, this could be a real 562 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 3: issue for us in a pr sense beyond the horrible 563 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: double murder that took place here. 564 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just again, and I think a lot 565 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: of you are with me on this. It is a 566 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: colossal failure that this could be allowed to occur. If 567 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: you're a parent of a child on a college campus, 568 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: a school shooting is something that you would worry about. 569 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I think in the back of their mind 570 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: people constantly worry about bad things happening to their kids 571 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: at elementary school or all the way up into college. 572 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 2: What are we doing that there could not be ample 573 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: evidence of all of this that would lead to an 574 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: immediate arrest. It's hard to stop somebody from being crazy. 575 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: But what motivated this guy? Why does it seem like 576 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: they're trying to fight so hard from putting that motivation 577 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: out there? And how is it that were reduced to 578 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: the point of begging people who might have Tesla vehicles 579 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: in the area to potentially share videos when I guarantee 580 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: you if you looked at the budget that Brown University 581 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: puts into campus security and safety, it would boggle your 582 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: mind how much they spend on this. They're certainly what 583 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: do we say, room and board plus tuition the budget 584 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: average price now is ninety five thousand dollars a year. 585 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: If you can't make your kids safe enough to at 586 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: least get the shooter of someone on a campus arrested, 587 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: what in the world are we doing. We'll talk about that. 588 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: We'll take some of your calls, by the way, eight 589 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: hundred and two A two two eight A two In 590 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: the meantime. Price Picks available in forty plus states, including California, Texas, Florida, 591 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: and Georgia. 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Where 619 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: he wrote about like our generation, I'll include you to 620 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: be inclusive, our generation that was essentially blocked out from 621 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: a lot of opportunities as part of the DEI mania 622 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: and how like boomers who talk about DEI they have 623 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: no idea really correct because they completely they had already 624 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 3: gotten to the points in their career where it didn't matter. 625 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: They weren't doing entry level hiring or even it's really 626 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 3: that second or third tier of your first promotion, your 627 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: second promotion, when like real things start getting going for 628 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: you or real opportunities open up. Yeah, I'm sorry, I said, 629 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: Tablet Compact Magazine, Compact dot Com. I do remember that 630 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 3: The Lost Generation. It is such a good piece and 631 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: it's just so important because it really hones in on 632 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: they what they did to people was wrong. What they 633 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 3: did to a whole generation of white Americans who are men, 634 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: white American men is wrong. It was it was unconstitutional, 635 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: which the Supreme Court has now very clearly weighed on. 636 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: It was racist and it was immoral, and people need 637 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 3: to speak about it that way. And this goes into 638 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 3: chapter verse. The reason that TV shows are so crappy 639 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: is they're hiring bad writers. 640 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I remember. 641 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: So what was so interesting about this is we were 642 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: being told people around our age, hey, we need to 643 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: have more diversity, equity and inclusion. This is unacceptable. What's 644 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: going on? And I remember looking around, for instance, in 645 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: my law school class, there were more girls. 646 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: Than guys in my law school class. 647 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: And I remember being lectured because we go to on 648 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: campus interviews and they would say, well, these these you know, 649 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: law firms have to hire way more women because it's 650 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 2: unacceptable what's been going on. And I'm looking around, like, what, 651 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: we're actually actually more girls in our class than there 652 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: are boys, Like you're yelling at us in this generation 653 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: who have had none of the benefits of, by and large, 654 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: a world in which was everything was slanted towards white people. 655 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: And then you're you're hectoring us as if we're have 656 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 2: this incredible white privilege. And I think that's what what 657 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 2: a lot of young men have finally reacted to, is 658 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: this whole idea of male privilege, this whole idea of 659 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 2: white male privilege. 660 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: It's all a big bowl of bs. 661 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 3: And it's actually the reverse though it's even more like 662 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: the discrimination. I don't like the term reverse discrimination, because 663 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: it's discrimination discrimination against white males and hiring was explicit, 664 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 3: it was real, and it really only affected one. 665 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: This is the key because a lot of boomers it's 666 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: not that bad. 667 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 3: Sorry Boomers, It actually was that bad, and it affected 668 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: people who are currently thirty to fifty. Okay, if you're 669 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 3: thirty to fifty right now, you got screwed over by 670 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 3: these policies in a whole range of industries, academia, clay. 671 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 3: When I was the CIA, there were people with PhDs 672 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 3: and the humanities that I worked with from the fanciest 673 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: Ivy League schools. You know why they were at the 674 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 3: CIA with me. There were white guys. They couldn't get jobs. 675 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 3: You're a white guy who speaks Arabic and you have 676 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 3: a Middle Eastern studies degree, you know, in a PhD 677 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: from Harvard or whatever, you can't. 678 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: Get a teaching job anywhere, Yeah, anywhere. 679 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: And it's because they explicitly said we're going to stop 680 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: hiring white guys. Same with Hollywood, same with you know 681 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: a lot of this, by the way, in the lib media. 682 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 3: You look at the way, yeah, Jeff Zucker ran CNN, 683 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: so many of the contributors they were trying to bring 684 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: in all the time, women in minorities and the whole 685 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 3: It was such a focus on this. Anyway, I forget 686 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 3: what even triggered me on this issue, but I got 687 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: fired up. Well, it was the compact of the article, 688 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 3: which is circulating now. We'll put it up on Clay 689 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: and Buck you can go read it when we come back. 690 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 3: By the way, your boy, Mom, Donnie, I say your 691 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: boy because New York City. Somebody's got a stand up 692 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: for New York City. He says that giving people no 693 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 3: charges on buses will actually make things way safer. 694 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: That is crazy. We've also got a one hundred and 695 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: one year old Patriot that I think people will enjoy 696 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: hearing from. And we got a couple of guests coming 697 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: everybody's way. Buck's final show of the year. Go buy 698 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: his book. We'll be back with y'all es.