Speaker 1: Today's episode of the Command Center Podcast. We've got a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl recap. The Eagles are champs, but who was
Speaker 1: the last team to beat them?
Speaker 2: We were?
Speaker 1: We were? Did we get a blueprint for the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: I think we might have. I think we did. So
Speaker 1: what do we need to do the Commanders to get
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl game next year? We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about that today. It all starts right now. Welcome
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Speaker 4: You're ready for it?
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Speaker 2: Never ready for snow from Miami, dude.
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Speaker 3: No, that's why they say, hey, we had to do
Speaker 3: all this stuff early because I would be barricaded in
Speaker 3: my room in my home. You know, I don't do
Speaker 3: nothing to snow. I just perfect snow. I'm calling Uber
Speaker 3: eats there on the couch. I'm going through everything Apple, Plush, Netflix,
Speaker 3: every streaming.
Speaker 1: Do you feel sometimes I feel weird, like calling it
Speaker 1: the uber uber eats or.
Speaker 2: When it's not safe out signed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's their job.
Speaker 3: They get, they got, they got a bigger tip from me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you give me ten.
Speaker 5: Dollars because just like somebody said, they watching the football game,
Speaker 5: but they cringe it because we hurt each other.
Speaker 1: It's our job.
Speaker 3: Someone told me one day, I hate watching y'all play
Speaker 3: because somebody got.
Speaker 4: To lose.
Speaker 5: The day somebody, you know, I'm just so happy swell
Speaker 5: the heat. They trail didn't get on their knees yesterday
Speaker 5: because they can fit.
Speaker 1: It was green.
Speaker 5: Like you know, I told you before the game, I
Speaker 5: was pulling for the philadefferent Eagles because I pulled for
Speaker 5: the NFC. Now, not only are we the only division
Speaker 5: with everybody has won the Super Bowl on a division
Speaker 5: with multiple everybody has multiple super Bowl I.
Speaker 1: Feel it was gonna be a Philadelphia day.
Speaker 5: I feel like Philly had the best roster and it
Speaker 5: roster showed doing it game.
Speaker 1: All right before we get to the super Bowl recap,
Speaker 1: because that's a really good tease there by friend, we
Speaker 1: do we are an educational podcast at our core and
Speaker 1: we fact check ourselves. Actually, you guys fact checked us.
Speaker 1: And so just to recap what the I didn't even remember.
Speaker 1: It was the trade between the Bears and the Khalil Mack. Right,
Speaker 1: that was the Bears and the Oakland Raiders. Okay, so
Speaker 1: the Bears gave two first round picks and a third
Speaker 1: round pick and a sixth round ye. The Bears received
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, a second round pick and a conditional fifth
Speaker 1: round pick. Yes, so I think I read it wrong
Speaker 1: last time, and you guys were and you guys were
Speaker 1: very mean about it in the content. But we are educational.
Speaker 1: We're here to educ hit you and we want to
Speaker 1: make sure that information is out there. You got everything
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Speaker 5: You were on the show too, and I think I said,
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's what the picks were.
Speaker 1: You agree with.
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 1: Too many? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was too many pigs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of picks, so conditional return all
Speaker 1: that stuff, it's important. Yeah, And so I don't think
Speaker 1: it changes our opinion about get them here and what
Speaker 1: it would take to get him here. Obviously there would
Speaker 1: be some maybe some more maneuvering any means necessary.
Speaker 2: Did we learn anything when friend.
Speaker 1: Says might be necessary? If Adam Peters thinks it's appropriate,
Speaker 1: that's what we That's what I'm saying. But like a
Speaker 1: game changed himself.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying, like some players put like this,
Speaker 5: could you agree with me on this?
Speaker 1: I am Smooter Dumbags, the real draft guru. You, I'm
Speaker 1: a guy.
Speaker 5: Prospect, paulse I'm could you agree with me? Even though
Speaker 5: Dual Carter it's not a Miles Garrett in this draft.
Speaker 1: I would say that's probably true, although I do think
Speaker 1: he's close from a past rushed perspective, Yeah, he's close.
Speaker 1: But I do think that Miles Garrett special because he's
Speaker 1: done it, he's proved it.
Speaker 3: That's why when seeing how these guys was able to
Speaker 3: kind of go out there and pick the right kind
Speaker 3: of guy, whether they was a Mouse Garrett or not,
Speaker 3: and put him with a team that was going to
Speaker 3: play the way we play. You know, the culture that
Speaker 3: we said over here, that's what leads me to say.
Speaker 4: That, Hey, I'm not big on stretching, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, giving too much of just
Speaker 3: for somebody who I felt that have shown he's a
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer already.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like, what more do he
Speaker 4: has in the tank?
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure still about twelve
Speaker 3: fourteen sacks a year.
Speaker 4: But do we really actually need a guy like that?
Speaker 2: Well, I think a guy like that opens up everybody else.
Speaker 5: So when I get a guy like that, I'm not
Speaker 5: count his sex, gotcha, I'm counting overall.
Speaker 4: Too much better everybody else gonna get.
Speaker 5: Cause we were talking about the Super Bowl, we would
Speaker 5: like say, go to had him in your but get
Speaker 5: what Saque did do open it up for Devon Ta's get.
Speaker 1: Ball a J.
Speaker 5: Brown because he's one safety in the middle of the
Speaker 5: field and not playing, So it's like, what all is
Speaker 5: he bringing when he's not making plays? And think about this,
Speaker 5: think about overloading the side having Miles Garrett on one
Speaker 5: Louvu on the other one. How many people got one
Speaker 5: on ones because they double team in him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really kind of affects how to do the
Speaker 1: light day point and to talk about Miles Garrett, he's
Speaker 1: a special player, no doubt, and he's special among special players,
Speaker 1: like when you watch those top guys. He's got multiple
Speaker 1: of ways to win, multiple pass rush moves, can line
Speaker 1: up in multiple spots like Stays. There's no doubt, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt that he's a special football player. It just
Speaker 1: you know, like, is the price right and is the
Speaker 1: right fit?
Speaker 4: Are you willing to give it up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that's exactly right. So that just to
Speaker 1: get that little fact check thing redone. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we kind of have our same takes as before.
Speaker 1: All right, So now let's get on to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl recap. And just before we get started, was anyone
Speaker 1: surprised did the game went the way? Said?
Speaker 4: But I was because I was. I was rooting for
Speaker 4: the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I thought Andy, and I thought past you.
Speaker 3: Know, Patt and Andy would go out there and do
Speaker 3: what they do show, you know, be magical, you know,
Speaker 3: and I just feel like when you have SPACs on
Speaker 3: the other side, you know, we give so much credit
Speaker 3: to Pat Mahomes to talk about you know, I guess
Speaker 3: you could say just because how he started his whole
Speaker 3: NFL career, like he's been a winner from day one,
Speaker 3: and the way he plays the Buffalo Bills and all
Speaker 3: those other teams in his division, and he just finds
Speaker 3: a way to will his team to victory. It wasn't
Speaker 3: no will of your team the victory the other night.
Speaker 3: You know, his first half showed everything matter and he tried.
Speaker 3: He tried at times, he tried to be magically, tried
Speaker 3: to get outside the park and do things. Man, those
Speaker 3: guys over there in Philly, Man, you know, we talked
Speaker 3: about them being Juggernauts.
Speaker 1: They showed it. They showed us Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Saying, and we talked about this last week and I
Speaker 5: was like, the only roster spot that I felt like
Speaker 5: Kansas City group wise, it was quarterback and it showed
Speaker 5: like it literally showed throughout the game.
Speaker 4: Do you think we give jayden Hurst too much flak for?
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to see why because I feel that
Speaker 3: when every time we got ready to face him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the whole I'm talking about nationally. You know, we heard
Speaker 3: that jayden Hurst have to beat you with a guess
Speaker 3: what he.
Speaker 1: Do with his Yeah? Well, Like, I think the one
Speaker 1: thing about him is when you look at our game
Speaker 1: or so, what is it the championship game like that
Speaker 1: was statistically, by grade by PFF grade his best game
Speaker 1: of the year. But okay, okay, so then his second
Speaker 1: best game is the Super Bowl. Outside of that, yeah,
Speaker 1: not not a on average, not a great season. So
Speaker 1: I think people look at him and they say, like,
Speaker 1: we don't know what the thing right, And so when
Speaker 1: he gets to the Super Bowl, like I heard this
Speaker 1: on Me to Time show today, like basically was saying
Speaker 1: like he does have this thing where he's like he's
Speaker 1: a gamer, but he brings it.
Speaker 2: He've been playing national championships a freshman in college.
Speaker 5: Like, we have seen this guy time and time again,
Speaker 5: and I think he's one of those players because he
Speaker 5: doesn't do any one thing great. He's not the fastest,
Speaker 5: but he can run. He's don't have the too as
Speaker 5: strong as on but he's accurate. The only thing you
Speaker 5: can say is okay, he got that it.
Speaker 3: So so it's safe to say if he didn't have
Speaker 3: the run game the way that he had it this
Speaker 3: year and make him more now to the point that
Speaker 3: where that okay, now show us because we're not going
Speaker 3: to give you that one safety out there. We're not
Speaker 3: going to allow you to have these open lanes and
Speaker 3: come to pass it. We want to see if you
Speaker 3: can really beat us, because you know, you see most
Speaker 3: teams when you saw how they played pack. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: they've been playing everybody like that. They rush with they're for,
Speaker 3: they don't need they don't need to. And now you
Speaker 3: basically out there. I don't know how many men you
Speaker 3: got en route, but you got seven defenders back there
Speaker 3: in coverage. Yeah half of the time. You see what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So flip to flip it and put him
Speaker 3: in that situation? Do you think he get out of
Speaker 3: a situation like that?
Speaker 2: And I think that's why people don't want to crown.
Speaker 1: This is another craziest So time to throw for Jail
Speaker 1: It hurts. And I guess what it is average time
Speaker 1: to throw in the NFL's about two two point three four,
Speaker 1: Like that's average time to throw. I guess what it's
Speaker 1: time to throw is just three sicks three point seven.
Speaker 1: So talk about offensive line struggle, bit of the run game,
Speaker 1: but talk about dominating the gave and so what one
Speaker 1: of my one of my biggest criticisms, this is not
Speaker 1: a hate on Jailen hurds sound where he went. MVP
Speaker 1: deserves the m v P like he played well. He
Speaker 1: doesn't like to let it go unless he will list
Speaker 1: is open and so he'll hold that sucker. So what
Speaker 1: did that offensive line, let him don't hold the mess
Speaker 1: out of here, and again he scrambled and made good decisions.
Speaker 1: But I think that that's given context to the performance.
Speaker 3: So so that's basically where they have that little I guess.
Speaker 3: I guess you could say doubt when it comes.
Speaker 5: To yeah, Pat mahomes where elite quarterback can fix leaks.
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy this count of Dad Prescott.
Speaker 5: He needs everything around him like it was in Alabama.
Speaker 1: And Jared like he's still good good, Yeah, he's good,
Speaker 1: but he needs a lot of the lovers.
Speaker 3: He ain't winning the game, but if you give him
Speaker 3: the opportunity, he will beat you that somebody else you know,
Speaker 3: win the game.
Speaker 1: He's only throw it to the open guy. That's why
Speaker 1: he's the top. That's why it's between twenty and eight quarterback,
Speaker 1: right and not a top eight to one. Right.
Speaker 2: Does this win put him in him?
Speaker 3: Because it does, You're going to be able to speak
Speaker 3: up his name a little differently. But I also say
Speaker 3: this though, I'm just happy that he did put it
Speaker 3: on the guy one under the spell because he gets
Speaker 3: his name gets thrown around too much, and he has
Speaker 3: an astis by his name. The entire season when we
Speaker 3: watched the earlier games, it was his fault.
Speaker 4: Because he was losing. But I'm like, the defas gotta
Speaker 4: stop somebody, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm meaning.
Speaker 3: So now you see them be able to overcome all that,
Speaker 3: and you get to the part of the season where
Speaker 3: things weren't going so well and say Kwan took off
Speaker 3: and then he just still found his way. So that's
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring his name because I just felt
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, damn, this dude just shows up in
Speaker 3: the big game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to give some context to that,
Speaker 1: like I'm happy for him, like he deserves it. He
Speaker 1: played well and he and he does have traits that
Speaker 1: make it, like the leadership stuff, the competitiveness. But I
Speaker 1: think it's important to just give a little context, like
Speaker 1: that rosters impeccable, insane, Like that offensive line we just
Speaker 1: talked about what they three point seven seconds to throw is.
Speaker 1: It's an insane number. It's an insane in person. We
Speaker 1: had three times three times, and then Mammoth and then
Speaker 1: to say, oh we got Davante Smith, Oh we got
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard, Oh we got a J. Brown was a
Speaker 1: bark And it's like I had the weakness and he's
Speaker 1: got to make it go. Yeah, Like so this is
Speaker 1: not but I'm just saying like if I I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I can't have a better roster, not in his league.
Speaker 1: He seems that way right, Like it seems like a
Speaker 1: cart too. It's something like you would do on Madden.
Speaker 3: It almost seems like also just you know, going into
Speaker 3: this game, you would you would have if you'd have
Speaker 3: told me that the game was gonna be one because
Speaker 3: Jaden Hurst won the game basically went out there and
Speaker 3: scored three touchdowns, one on the ground. Well, we knew
Speaker 3: to push. This is gonna get you know, get seen
Speaker 3: in the rezone. But if you have told me that
Speaker 3: he was going to be the MVP, he's gonna be
Speaker 3: the reason why they win, I'll tell.
Speaker 1: You line, you know. And I think it's the other
Speaker 1: thing too, like just to put a little more and
Speaker 1: this is I'm not hating on him. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to give a little context there. They had two interceptions,
Speaker 1: one return for a touchdown and one inside the ten
Speaker 1: yard line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like yeah, you know, team like the team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he deserves everything you say.
Speaker 4: I'm happy for him.
Speaker 1: No, I have four too, because he deserves us, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's like it's the team is so that
Speaker 1: the ruster is not. It's silly good.
Speaker 4: You've been saying they juggernas they are definitely.
Speaker 2: Saying.
Speaker 3: Philly was celebrating before the Super Bowl even started. The
Speaker 3: whole week was Philly Philly Week over there New Nightmare
Speaker 3: getting the kids. Everything I saw was Green. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: so did they already gave Philly the trophy? Because it
Speaker 3: seemed like the fans of the.
Speaker 5: All Philly, like the whole straight foot out was Philly
Speaker 5: from like, I was like, Casey, f maybe they just
Speaker 5: failled and tired of going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I saw Green really was everywhere. Everywhere, it was wild,
Speaker 1: and this is something that we were talking about. So
Speaker 1: I knew there's one of those things where it's like
Speaker 1: they had the first three out, Philly went down and scored,
Speaker 1: and when Kansas City had their second three out, I
Speaker 1: was like, they don't, they don't get with it. They
Speaker 1: can't play with this.
Speaker 4: I was listening to my homeboy, and I tell you,
Speaker 4: we always had these conversations.
Speaker 3: I say, we talked football and he was like, Tanna,
Speaker 3: Kansas City offense sucks they've been.
Speaker 4: Watching them all year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do not want to see that in the
Speaker 3: super Bowl. I'm like, no, man, you know Pat Mahomes
Speaker 3: and Andy reid Man. You can't say that, he said, Tann,
Speaker 3: I'm telling.
Speaker 4: You when when that text went across my phone, did
Speaker 4: not tell you this offense poop?
Speaker 3: I say, Bro, you've been saying it all your loan,
Speaker 3: so I had to get your He's been telling.
Speaker 1: Me all your loan. He's a smart man. But every
Speaker 1: statistical like variable you look at ep A total points,
Speaker 1: first downs, they're down.
Speaker 6: They're like in the twenty four five. So it being repeented.
Speaker 6: If I think they've been repented. If no, I'm starting them,
Speaker 6: I'm starting them. I'm not to believe is rip thing
Speaker 6: with them again? Because now they didn't yesterday, Yes, how
Speaker 6: did they get you?
Speaker 1: Office didn't didn't tell you what I'll tell you. Having
Speaker 1: the best quote and making for the best quarterback in football.
Speaker 1: Like when you look at their third down percent percentages
Speaker 1: when they have to have it, Yeah, they're good. Two minutes, good,
Speaker 1: red zone good because dude knows how to deal. So
Speaker 1: I will say on that second third, Now, I was like,
Speaker 1: they haven't seen this. They haven't seen anything like like this,
Speaker 1: and we're I know we're gonna hp Philly up here
Speaker 1: a little bit, but like what I saw, I said
Speaker 1: this like it is the best defense I've seen in
Speaker 1: probably four years. Yeah, like easily, the way they cover,
Speaker 1: the way they run. Baltimore, they don't have a week,
Speaker 1: So that was that'd be interesting to go back to,
Speaker 1: like when Baltimore h Yeah, and you know, like those
Speaker 1: dudes when you although, however, when you look statistically like
Speaker 1: total points four, I think I just read this recently,
Speaker 1: so Baltimore was like seventeen point four and I guess
Speaker 1: what Philly is sev seventeen foy five.
Speaker 4: The reason why they're right there and and just what
Speaker 4: you're saying that alone.
Speaker 3: I played against that Baltimore defense with re and those guys,
Speaker 3: and the way the back end play was so different.
Speaker 3: You know, like these guys here almost they're almost basically
Speaker 3: back there just saying do the job and we'll.
Speaker 1: Sit back here. And I'm so glad you brought that
Speaker 1: up to that. It's such a good point because like
Speaker 1: one of the things about back in the day, when
Speaker 1: Baltimore's played like teams you had to stop the run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you had, you couldn't play two high safety shells all
Speaker 1: the time. Here it's like two high safety shells. They
Speaker 1: matched up great, but then it's like those front six,
Speaker 1: like you guys figure it out.
Speaker 4: They figure it out.
Speaker 3: They get after, they get after Keister. So so it's
Speaker 3: almost like their secondary is protect. They got pretty good
Speaker 3: guys in the secondary, but they're so protected with just
Speaker 3: those front.
Speaker 2: Guys alone, Like they don't get these line backers swap paint. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Ron and the rest of you they swap paint.
Speaker 1: Man. Look at with fifty three man.
Speaker 5: Oh, the greatest thing going for us is this guy
Speaker 5: almost won Defensive Player of the Year Ken Dale four.
Speaker 4: What to keep him?
Speaker 5: Like, they got to pay the COVID dean, Like the
Speaker 5: COVID dean's hurt. They're gonna have to figure out some stuff.
Speaker 1: Though, right he's because he was strafted two three years ago,
Speaker 1: three years ago.
Speaker 5: But he was a fifth four hour years ago, three
Speaker 5: three years ago. This be his fourth year, so big
Speaker 5: play slave won't be there next year. So it's gonna
Speaker 5: Roseman's gonna have to work some more magic because the
Speaker 5: roster is starting to get.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy though, It's like He's got to
Speaker 1: work magic, no doubt. But like I think they have
Speaker 1: the most returning players under contract in the NFL. They
Speaker 1: got a youth movement, but like, like you think a
Speaker 1: roster that good would just break apart, like Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: was just a break apart afterwards.
Speaker 2: Kind of like what's going on in Cincinnati right now.
Speaker 5: They capsized and then they they like they said they
Speaker 5: don't want to pay top billion for everybody in their position,
Speaker 5: Like they don't want to give up Henderson, his Hendrix,
Speaker 5: his next country and he like top three in his position,
Speaker 5: Dan Jamont Chase will be top.
Speaker 2: Three, DNT Higgins will be top three. They just can't
Speaker 2: afford to pay them all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So so okay, interesting kind of talking point about Philly.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get Morning Kansas City here in a second.
Speaker 1: But the last team that beat the Philadelphia Eagles was US,
Speaker 1: the Washington Commands. So first off, I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of cool things to talk about here. One like
Speaker 1: cliffs understanding of Philadelphia's defense, Jane's improvement versus that defense,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that all in a second, But like,
Speaker 1: how does that make you feel that we were the
Speaker 1: last team to beat him? And they did that.
Speaker 5: It made me feel like they should be sending us
Speaker 5: a Christmas call it because we knocked out the Detroit
Speaker 5: Labs and got them at Day Way Tampa out Day
Speaker 5: Way on. And it makes me feel good about our
Speaker 5: future because it tells me as good as they are
Speaker 5: with this complete roster, and we know our roster was
Speaker 5: kind of incomplete. We went punch with punch with the bully,
Speaker 5: and so if that's the measury stick, I feel good
Speaker 5: that we're not too far off.
Speaker 3: I feel good for the simple fact that I'm not
Speaker 3: even talking about the win, just seeing the game that
Speaker 3: the last game. You know that that that NFC Championship game,
Speaker 3: we fumbled that game away, But at the same.
Speaker 4: Time, you saw still have fight.
Speaker 3: You saw still have moments in the game where we
Speaker 3: was only down eight, down eleven, and we finally found
Speaker 3: a way to fumble again. But we showed that we
Speaker 3: had answers for everybody. When I saw that my team
Speaker 3: was able to find a way to make a play. Here,
Speaker 3: make a player have a seventeen play drive and the champs,
Speaker 3: you mean to tell me the champs that's about to
Speaker 3: go three for three peat with the greatest quarter player
Speaker 3: moved with the greatest quarterback that ever put on Some
Speaker 3: Jay's on the football field can't move the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it makes you feel like, man, we got something we
Speaker 3: ain't too far away and too far away. So so
Speaker 3: I'm happy to say that. But at the same time too,
Speaker 3: you have to put in consideration. They are in our division.
Speaker 4: So it's one of those.
Speaker 3: Things where we used we know them, So that might
Speaker 3: be a little reason why we have at that secret sauce.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, do you think we could have beat
Speaker 1: in the Chiefs the Commanders? It felt like it.
Speaker 3: I mean, looking at it, I thought I thought last
Speaker 3: I thought when we played down the NFC Championship game,
Speaker 3: I said, the winner of this game should be able
Speaker 3: to be anybody in the NFI make it. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I didn't know if it's gonna be Buffalo or the Chiefs.
Speaker 5: But I'm like, but they tried to say that the
Speaker 5: AFC because they got Lamar, they got Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: They feel like they got the top five quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the league.
Speaker 3: That was the only quarterback that I think I didn't
Speaker 3: want to see was Lamar in the championship game. Well
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, but I felt that because they
Speaker 3: had got down to the point it was going to
Speaker 3: be just be Buffalo or Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I wasn't scared of neither of those two that like
Speaker 1: Josh Allen Lamar and Patrick Mahomes like and Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4: But to me, Joe Burrow he might be more scared
Speaker 4: than all of them.
Speaker 5: But get what I felt like, out of all those
Speaker 5: great quarterbacks and them good teams, I felt like Philip
Speaker 5: Deafel roster still that way through them.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, But I think we have this precedent of
Speaker 1: like talking about to get to the super Bowl, you
Speaker 1: need an elite quarterback, and I feel like Philly has
Speaker 1: kind of broken that mold, like you look at Detroit's
Speaker 1: kind of breaking that mold. San Francisco kind of broke
Speaker 1: it when they went, but they've never been able to
Speaker 1: beat Patrick Mahomes. Yes, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the roster for Philly.
Speaker 4: Is just well that good.
Speaker 3: We know you don't really need an elite quarterback because
Speaker 3: it's been quarterbacks that hasn't been elite that champions all
Speaker 3: of this. You just need a quarterback that knows how
Speaker 3: to play the game, do his job.
Speaker 1: But I think like when you what he was, he
Speaker 1: did his job, but he got the bought. That's a
Speaker 1: great point. That was the that was the Baltimore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore defense was so good with ray Lewis and
Speaker 1: all those guys, and then they had the best rushing
Speaker 1: attack in the NFL that year. And we need to
Speaker 1: build that kind of team, and like it seems so
Speaker 1: hard to do that. But is it harder to build
Speaker 1: the best team in football or is it easier to
Speaker 1: find It's easy to find that quarterback. No, I think
Speaker 1: it's hard a quarterback.
Speaker 3: It's easy to pay for a quarterback, yeah, but it's
Speaker 3: harder to get that many guys on one team and
Speaker 3: be able to hold them, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I just think if you aggressive and free agents inside
Speaker 5: the right free agents, which we know how they go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's the thing though. Man, it's like
Speaker 1: when you look at them, like it's.
Speaker 4: You ain't getting that lucky? Like that that Philly team
Speaker 4: is serious.
Speaker 1: They're so lucky. I mean even even New Orleans Orlans
Speaker 1: had Drew Brees there and they had that great drive,
Speaker 1: a lot of more all of them, and they kind
Speaker 1: of hit on those guys. They become franchised components, cornerstones
Speaker 1: you gotta get.
Speaker 5: Come on, Philadelphia did not if they draft Spot was
Speaker 5: not supposed to draft Jaalen Caught, he feel because of
Speaker 5: off the field, and they ranto the podium.
Speaker 1: They didn't, they didn't stop.
Speaker 5: They ran to their podium and they understood who they wanted,
Speaker 5: what they wanted, and that when you get a generational
Speaker 5: player like that, don't forget. Come on, we ain't even
Speaker 5: talking about the fact they drafted Jordan Davis the year before.
Speaker 2: He a rotation guy. Yeah, Nolan Smith.
Speaker 5: They got Nolan Smith and Jalen Caught in the same
Speaker 5: draft first round.
Speaker 3: I tell you like this, and I'm speaking individually now
Speaker 3: talking about play years and their careers. I tell folks
Speaker 3: all the time, I'm like, you know, guys talk to
Speaker 3: me and ask me questions about who Hall of Famers
Speaker 3: and who it is and what it takes.
Speaker 1: I say, bro, you gotta have a little luck on
Speaker 1: your side.
Speaker 2: You can be a great player and not be a
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer easily.
Speaker 3: Not even be a Pro Bowl because you might not
Speaker 3: be in the right situation team enough, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. So, so when you watch this Philly team
Speaker 3: and how everything formed together. You sit in yourself, like
Speaker 3: you need to tell me. Those guys was around in
Speaker 3: the draft and everybody had a chance to pick them,
Speaker 3: but they did so sometimes some of that is luck.
Speaker 3: Some of that they just failed in yours, your lap
Speaker 3: because they was right there for the taking. And that's
Speaker 3: why I scratched my head about it, and I say,
Speaker 3: you can't build a team like that to the in
Speaker 3: today's you know league, it's easier to get that quarterback
Speaker 3: because whether you get him in free agency, the draft,
Speaker 3: or he's a guy that you developed, you can get
Speaker 3: the court. You can get that one guy. We talked
Speaker 3: about this all the time. You say not, you say
Speaker 3: on every level in Philly team it's a death star.
Speaker 1: He might be all prodec I think about that, like
Speaker 1: you got to you gotta roll the dice four times
Speaker 1: on the defensive line and come up sevens right, and
Speaker 1: you gotta do it twice on from the last come
Speaker 1: up seven. You gotta find a good five seven and
Speaker 1: you gotta find a and the secondary is good, but
Speaker 1: you hit on Quinn and Mitchell, Darius Slay.
Speaker 2: And cooping the g come out c J. Garten, the Johnson.
Speaker 3: You bring a guy there for one year and he's
Speaker 3: the best lad back in the league.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a special teams.
Speaker 1: Like I will say this about Philly, which I appreciate,
Speaker 1: is they go high ceiling prospects. Yes, they are a
Speaker 1: little bit. They still explain that to me. They trust. Okay,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of guys that will say you, like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to draft a high floor player, so someone
Speaker 1: that might not be as good like Jofny Carter is
Speaker 1: a good example, Right, he's got some character concerns, gonna
Speaker 1: be to lead.
Speaker 2: But but the talent was niver question.
Speaker 4: So they ain't cam by what you do off the
Speaker 4: fielding came about what you're doing they.
Speaker 1: N I think they care about it. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: they trust their billing process to be like we've got
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham, We've got Fletcher Cox, got enough character guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: building to keep him. And then like we trust when
Speaker 1: we draft offensive line, when we trust Stoutland to develop
Speaker 1: those guys, and we trust we trust Vic Fangio that
Speaker 1: he's gonna get Quinn and Mitchell and Cooper degen right
Speaker 1: to play in the Super Bowl. And that's where it's like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're looking at the draft here, but they've made excellent
Speaker 1: specifically this offseason, excellent coaching this.
Speaker 3: So basically they do what the Pitstsburgh said to do
Speaker 3: with their wide receivers. Yes, receive prince, but their character
Speaker 3: is boy beyond you know. Also when you look at
Speaker 3: what they do, think about this. Mackay Bickton came out
Speaker 3: top ten tackle.
Speaker 5: This is maybe they realized he couldn't play tax because
Speaker 5: they're like, he get played in three hundred and sixty pounds,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Put him at going and darre To say he approp
Speaker 2: to me a Pro Bowl goal.
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that's crazy Itt. Like in
Speaker 1: the NFL, you don't develop tell really like it's not
Speaker 1: like part of who you like what you do. But
Speaker 1: you developed Jordan Malata, dude never played football before, he
Speaker 1: was a rugby player, comes in and is a baller, right,
Speaker 1: and you get Machai Vecton on a minimum deal, minimum
Speaker 1: like minimum deal, you signed him, you develop him with
Speaker 1: and again that's where to me, Like in the NFL
Speaker 1: everyone says it's not a developmental league. You better find something,
Speaker 1: somebody to something this because if you can develop in
Speaker 1: house talent, like look at the best offensive lines in football,
Speaker 1: Like there are first round picks on those groups. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they've developed.
Speaker 5: Detroit developed that offensive line, Tampa Bay developed that offensive line. Hey,
Speaker 5: Kansas City Office line didn't look well. They was highly
Speaker 5: graded before this, like they got some houses on there.
Speaker 1: They just ran into a better.
Speaker 3: Decause last safe to say too, man, when you just
Speaker 3: watch and I'm glad we're talking about this because when
Speaker 3: you really watch what we saw from the metric, I
Speaker 3: guess you could say the maturity from our guys that
Speaker 3: we saw throughout the year, it seemed like you saw
Speaker 3: for the first time in a long time development like
Speaker 3: these These guys wouldn't just.
Speaker 4: Going out there and saying like, okay, put human spopper.
Speaker 3: We talked about Saint Jules at times, you know, not
Speaker 3: so good, but think about it, Saint Ju's had a
Speaker 3: better year than he had since he's been here, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's certain things that you might just can't do.
Speaker 3: But we saw a kid that couldn't do a certain
Speaker 3: things that we've been asking and then you saw him
Speaker 3: do it this year. So when I look at what
Speaker 3: we did as a whole, that's what gives me hope.
Speaker 3: To say that we might not need that mouse, Garrett,
Speaker 3: because they have a way of teaching guys to be
Speaker 3: that dominant, Like you get a you get Filer come
Speaker 3: in here, you got Lousu coming here. Like they went
Speaker 3: out there and got the right guys to fit what
Speaker 3: they do schematically wise and say, Okay, he's gonna go
Speaker 3: out there and get those sex because I'm gonna I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Put them in positions steam.
Speaker 5: But the scheme can only take you so far. When
Speaker 5: you need to talent, then you need a real like
Speaker 5: so sometime I need that, I need that.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's a mix, right, it's a mix of
Speaker 1: free agency and it's a mix of drift. Right. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing is you got to make
Speaker 1: sure you're hitting right. And I think you mentioned the
Speaker 1: Makai back then thing, like that's a great point. And
Speaker 1: they did a good job of that of finding a J.
Speaker 1: Brown say on Barkley, like that.
Speaker 4: AJ Brown bought C. J.
Speaker 5: Gardenersep back like you. They went to the super Bowl
Speaker 5: and lost. He was there, he left and went to Detroit.
Speaker 5: They brought him back, came back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they brought him.
Speaker 1: Back and forgot about it and so it's a mix.
Speaker 1: It's a mix of drafting and making. And I think
Speaker 1: the tennis point bringing them it's not that they don't
Speaker 1: get the biggest name. Yeah, they get the right fit
Speaker 1: at the right price. And that to me, that seems
Speaker 1: like it's way harder to do. I think it is.
Speaker 5: I think that's hard to do because just because somebody
Speaker 5: was good here, don't make them good. He's seen it
Speaker 5: too often, Maybe just ain't. Maybe it could be so
Speaker 5: much stuff. That's basically. That's basically And I know we're
Speaker 5: getting on topic with some of these this stuff. But
Speaker 5: it's like when people asking who's the Jets quarterback? Do
Speaker 5: they go out and get Brafford again?
Speaker 4: Like he was there? He doesn't play well in New York.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so sometimes you have to you have to, you know,
Speaker 3: you have to separate yourself from different markets or different
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: He would be good as a Jet.
Speaker 4: He wasn't good there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So Darnolds, I mean, and.
Speaker 2: Watch you talk about the last guy.
Speaker 5: You know, Reverend was the last guy before they started
Speaker 5: breaking in the dragon outstead of breaking.
Speaker 3: Think about Bradford. When I'm talking about Donald, for some reason,
Speaker 3: always bring him.
Speaker 5: I think he was the last guy that cast like
Speaker 5: a seventy million dollars number.
Speaker 3: He was the last right, he was the last guy
Speaker 3: got that big deal and they said putting the capping
Speaker 3: it right.
Speaker 1: Man for everybody, thank you, say not for me, but
Speaker 1: you guys getting drafted in the first round this year
Speaker 1: with him. So yeah, I think that's a really interesting conversation.
Speaker 1: And then let's just like talk about Kansas City for
Speaker 1: a second, about it, and I think it's an interesting conversation.
Speaker 1: People tell me, oh, like what is what do the
Speaker 1: commanders need? What do they need to do? Like how
Speaker 1: do they get better? And I look at when Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes is at his best, He's got five dudes in
Speaker 1: front of him who are dogs, who are good football players,
Speaker 1: and then that lets him elevate everything everything else. If
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the model, want to make sure that
Speaker 1: our guy number five has five absolute dogs in front
Speaker 1: of him, then are gonna like let him do what
Speaker 1: he does. It's like I think about the Philly game,
Speaker 1: you know, the the championship game. Just the composure, the competitiveness,
Speaker 1: the ability at the ball of his hands, quick to
Speaker 1: know what he's doing, tight window throws, like, you can't
Speaker 1: ask for anything better. You got the It seems like
Speaker 1: you got to got to eat. You got the guys.
Speaker 1: So with Kansas City, like when Mahomes has the guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's fine. Yeah. I think about the Tampa Bay super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Remember that Super Bowl where he got ran all over
Speaker 1: the field. They couldn't get anything done. I don't know.
Speaker 1: To me, that's a that's a lesson to learn is
Speaker 1: look at look at Philly's offensive line. Look what they
Speaker 1: did for Jade Jalen Hurts. Look at Kansas City's off
Speaker 1: at Detroit's just go down the list. No, just look
Speaker 1: at even even the Bills offensive line, even Tampa Baltimore, Tampa.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the one thing we know from history because
Speaker 5: history I repeats itself.
Speaker 1: When we won championships.
Speaker 5: Here we had the Hogs and on the other side
Speaker 5: of the ball, we had dextra manly Char's man trench
Speaker 5: warfare is football. The team with the best fat boys
Speaker 5: that smell like bacon, we'll win that game.
Speaker 2: It shows true how.
Speaker 4: Long would that take for us to build that kind
Speaker 4: of line.
Speaker 5: I feel like we'll say what we do, got we
Speaker 5: got a center, all right, guard, we got guard.
Speaker 2: Gotta guard all right, uh big Coleman, Yeah, we got
Speaker 2: a tackle. Now is he a legit left tackle? All right?
Speaker 1: Tackle didn't? Or is her guard is your guard? But
Speaker 1: that's fine that you got your So you got three
Speaker 1: out of the five. But I look at I look
Speaker 1: at let's look at phil. We just talked about Philly. Right,
Speaker 1: You developed, you found talent, you developed my lotta right.
Speaker 1: You drafted Landon Dickerson in the second round. You drafted
Speaker 1: what's his name, the center, I forget his name, but
Speaker 1: he they drafted him in the fifth round. He is
Speaker 1: a replacement just behind Kelsey for here. They developed him, right.
Speaker 1: The right guard is a retread first round pick. You
Speaker 1: get him, you developed him, right, and obviously Lane Johnson's
Speaker 1: first round pick. Right. Yeah, So I think when you
Speaker 1: look at and look at the bills, it's the same thing, doc,
Speaker 1: and you go down the lass. Yeah, some of them
Speaker 1: are high pedigree guys, caliber guys. But three of those
Speaker 1: guys you got to develop.
Speaker 5: You got to developers still, developers, still developers, still like
Speaker 5: you have to.
Speaker 3: I feel like I always hear he's talking about development
Speaker 3: office a lineman, And when you watch this play this year,
Speaker 3: you couldn't tell me that was the same line line
Speaker 3: from last year, a better coach.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, well, damn.
Speaker 3: So it's all about being coached, being well coach, and
Speaker 3: having the right kind of scheme. Because also we talked
Speaker 3: about our quarterback last year and at the time he's like, well,
Speaker 3: damn he got sacked.
Speaker 4: Not last year. Year before last we talked about how
Speaker 4: many times he was getting sacked, and he was like, well,
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of that is not on
Speaker 4: the office of line.
Speaker 1: He'sa get rid of for me, I get rid of,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So to me too, that was scheme wise.
Speaker 3: You know that was so when when you saw these
Speaker 3: guys fast forward to this year. At one point we
Speaker 3: had some of the best officer line play the.
Speaker 2: Early year, the first ten games we ran.
Speaker 1: Thing.
Speaker 3: The only thing I kept saying to myself, like, I
Speaker 3: hope the injury voting on buying us late and it
Speaker 3: bid us late, and it bid us late, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So that's another thing too, Like that
Speaker 3: goes back to what I'm talking to. Have deal, got
Speaker 3: to have de because Jurgons, that's what you was talking about.
Speaker 3: This center Cam Jurgons like for them like they was
Speaker 3: moving one guy. I mean, when Ergons went out, they
Speaker 3: moved Dickerson because that's his natural spot.
Speaker 4: It is a center.
Speaker 2: They moved him to guard. So flexibility is what they
Speaker 2: hel Plus they got.
Speaker 1: Size and depth, size and depth. Yeah, so you're always
Speaker 1: kind of hunting for that, and I think that's that's
Speaker 1: the thing I would look at coming out of this game, right.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is, like you mentioned this
Speaker 1: freight already, is the defensive line. Stuff like that just
Speaker 1: seems like when you have when you have a dominant group.
Speaker 1: This is something I've been able to watch the game
Speaker 1: yet on All twenty two it was I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to do. One thing, however about this group and they
Speaker 1: were dominant for sure. Is the coverage in the back
Speaker 1: end for Philly. It's sticky. It's sticky, man, there's no
Speaker 1: air back then.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like you, you have those guys up front
Speaker 3: that we're saying we trusted in you to get out
Speaker 3: to the quarterback, but we have these guys in the
Speaker 3: back end, Like you have a kid.
Speaker 4: God just turned twenty two on the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: His birthday was yesterday, turned twenty two, and he's catching
Speaker 3: a pick six seconds of the house, yes, and like
Speaker 3: just sitting back there and I'm just looking at this.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, so he's just sitting there doing his thing.
Speaker 3: But then you got big play Slay on the other side.
Speaker 3: And then you got your boy Queen Mitchell, Florida boy
Speaker 3: who just back there that had one to arguably you know,
Speaker 3: better rookie season in a cornerback play too.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, how do you Because they are used
Speaker 5: to that rush getting home, they play off man and
Speaker 5: they slow pedal, they slow they let you come to them,
Speaker 5: and if you don't come to them, they gonna come
Speaker 5: to you and go get tomorrow.
Speaker 4: It was no lanes.
Speaker 1: So the double click on this point. What I've mentioned
Speaker 1: this when we did the Philly preview, and I believe
Speaker 1: this one hundred percent. Do they have good coverage players, yes,
Speaker 1: Do they have a good defensive scheme, yes, But I
Speaker 1: think the most valuable pieces to the defense are bond
Speaker 1: and if you look get elite defense in the NFL,
Speaker 1: there's no It's not an accident that their middle linebackers
Speaker 1: really good because what they're able to do is fit
Speaker 1: the run and then get the coverage spot and you
Speaker 1: can match up on running backs and tight ends. So
Speaker 1: they have two guys like that, they have Cooper Gene,
Speaker 1: they have bought and then when when uh, the guy
Speaker 1: from Georgia, the linebacker Kobe, when he was doing that
Speaker 1: also right, So I think that's where I would kind
Speaker 1: of look and say, like, can you get an elite
Speaker 1: coverage linebacker that can fill zones? Flood zones knows what
Speaker 1: to do, like because when you watch him, it's like
Speaker 1: like when you watch the pick that he has, like
Speaker 1: they're trying to kind of lead, trying to loot that
Speaker 1: dude around it and talk about hips and feet open
Speaker 1: up gets. It makes it so hard. And when you
Speaker 1: watch the Commander's offense and the guys they pick on,
Speaker 1: it's those underneath hook players. Yeah, you're getting zones. Jane's
Speaker 1: gonna get the ball out And that was so hard
Speaker 1: against Philly because you have a guy like that.
Speaker 5: Can we debate this Dan because none of that thought
Speaker 5: about it. Is a interior rusher more inportant than age
Speaker 5: because the last Super Bowl champions all in the line
Speaker 5: that the number one Russian was interior Jaylen Cotton, Chris
Speaker 5: Jones on out the side and before him Aaron Donald,
Speaker 5: so could it be saying that a dominating deep tackle
Speaker 5: is worth more to it, I mean a defense than
Speaker 5: a age rushing So.
Speaker 1: I want to hear it. So a couple of things. One,
Speaker 1: I think anytime you can compress the pocket from the inside,
Speaker 1: that's a win. That's a win, right. I think you
Speaker 1: need all four guys to rush well to contain that,
Speaker 1: because if you press the interior and a guy steps
Speaker 1: out and you've boss contained, it doesn't meanything, right. But
Speaker 1: I think maybe after watching yesterday's game and watching Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett watching these guys, you need a guy who can
Speaker 1: create either quick pressure or internal pressure in turnment. Right,
Speaker 1: And so when you look at Michael Parsons, what does
Speaker 1: he do really well? I think he's got the highest
Speaker 1: quick pressure right now. Miles Garrett, same thing. Right. It's
Speaker 1: easier to manage edge players from the comatic stand because
Speaker 1: running back all that kind of stuff. So I would say, yes,
Speaker 1: you need a dominant pass rushing player on the interior,
Speaker 1: but it needs to fit in the like. So if
Speaker 1: you watch the game yesterday, obviously John Carter has a
Speaker 1: great game, you know what I mean. But the idea
Speaker 1: that the edge players, you know, swit and a game,
Speaker 1: Josh Wit. They can win with power and they're collapsing
Speaker 1: the pocket as opposed to running around run. I think
Speaker 1: that's something that people sleep on, is you need physicality,
Speaker 1: you need basically you need guys that can collapse the pocket.
Speaker 1: Especially with the way people are playing quarterback now, you
Speaker 1: just need people that can get that done. So defensive
Speaker 1: tackles tend to do that more naturally, right, think about
Speaker 1: Chris Jones all those guys. I think if you get
Speaker 1: power rushing ends, they can collapse the pocket and really
Speaker 1: force that tightness that you mitigate what makes But it
Speaker 1: is a.
Speaker 5: Longer route to the quarter back off they is from
Speaker 5: the middle of the field. So I feel like, if
Speaker 5: you're prison I'm pressing his center. I don't need to
Speaker 5: seck you you all the time. If I could push
Speaker 5: this center into your lap, I win. And if I
Speaker 5: could do that twenty thirty times in the game, I
Speaker 5: changed it.
Speaker 3: I saw his takeout like two of the two of
Speaker 3: the two of the top d n's this year, and
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett had no had no plays against us, He.
Speaker 4: Didn't even have a damn tackle.
Speaker 3: I don't think that game and I forgot who the
Speaker 3: other guy was who graded out that game or we
Speaker 3: played them. Yeah, so I saw us play to a
Speaker 3: well and be able to you know, Chip do things
Speaker 3: like that, get the ball on hand quick. So I
Speaker 3: believe just from from watching Brady for so many years.
Speaker 3: When Brady had bad games, he couldn't step up, we
Speaker 3: got a guy like you get a guy like Brady
Speaker 3: get it like Breeze. Breeze was so short. He needs
Speaker 3: to step up. He needs to get it over people head.
Speaker 3: So when you ask that question, I would say to
Speaker 3: me and not saying that my answers is right, I
Speaker 3: would think it be detailed d tackle because you need
Speaker 3: because if you got a guy that's disrupted up there
Speaker 3: and come after that pocket, where is he gonna go?
Speaker 2: He he's stopping more than just to pay and stopping
Speaker 2: to run.
Speaker 1: Also, yes, yeah, it's a great point. And again like
Speaker 1: it's just the different styles of Russia, the different ways
Speaker 1: guys can win. You need to like you need guys
Speaker 1: that can throw different pitches, you know, and get them
Speaker 1: all out there on the field together. It's it's important.
Speaker 1: And again like rushing together as a group is and
Speaker 1: you see that yesterday, like like they don't really have
Speaker 1: a plan, like kids. The city didn't have a plan.
Speaker 1: And the the other thing I was gonna say too
Speaker 1: is game flow to me is so important to developing
Speaker 1: a good pass rush, right like, when you're down by twenty,
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw the ball and what am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna two on fire?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Hurt?
Speaker 3: You know what hurted me more than anything when I
Speaker 3: saw how much time they spent on making sure Chris
Speaker 3: Jones was was not that hurt.
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, is he hurt?
Speaker 1: Getting out the side on the next man come in?
Speaker 4: They like, now we're going to take a time out.
Speaker 1: We want, we need, we need.
Speaker 4: So I knew right in there, like, yeah, bro, they
Speaker 4: ain't got nobody here. They need him to be healthy.
Speaker 5: That's what happened when your Quarterbay makes four hundred million
Speaker 5: and Chris Jones making thirty five million a year, so
Speaker 5: you can't pay everybody.
Speaker 1: So lots of let's used to be learned from the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, for sure. And it was kind of even
Speaker 1: though it was kind of a maybe not the best
Speaker 1: super Bowl, like I thought, it was kind of interest,
Speaker 1: it's about halftime to.
Speaker 5: That not half the halftime was so petty when for
Speaker 5: like I enjoyed.
Speaker 4: Ante should have been like right on, you know you
Speaker 4: petty to listen.
Speaker 7: I was like, this is getting paidy out of here.
Speaker 7: When I seen Kendrick, when we get the camera like
Speaker 7: this this right here, just penny, like you know, this
Speaker 7: is what we need. Right when I see Uncle sat Jackson.
Speaker 8: This all Serena Williams crip walking. But you know Serena
Speaker 8: is she's a day you know too perform man. He
Speaker 8: used the day hunt O my god.
Speaker 2: So Kendrick brought to it Drake's exes, yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: so pity.
Speaker 3: So I hate it for its geminis because everybody gonna
Speaker 3: think geminis feel.
Speaker 4: Like that like that, hey listen.
Speaker 5: And when I heard and you got realized what they
Speaker 5: I always say about a super Bowl that so everything.
Speaker 1: You know, the super Bowl crowd is a corporate crowd. Really,
Speaker 1: It's like when I was watching this, I was like,
Speaker 1: they're gonna hate this. Yeah damn not really.
Speaker 5: And when I seen them and they all got a
Speaker 5: unities and said a minor, I was like, oh, can't
Speaker 5: come like I went right then put on a black
Speaker 5: shirt and some black pants say I'm mad a fruit of.
Speaker 4: Finished right now.
Speaker 5: And then I was like, this is a Philadelphia crime.
Speaker 5: When they booed Taylor Swift from the dough, I was like,
Speaker 5: this is a Philly crowd.
Speaker 4: They have taken over.
Speaker 1: To New Orleans today. And the commercials. I was let down.
Speaker 4: That's still commercial.
Speaker 5: Ignorant.
Speaker 4: Well see what we got paid a pretty good note
Speaker 4: he did.
Speaker 1: Were trying to get him to do that for like
Speaker 1: five six years.
Speaker 5: He's on the commercial Muell trying to get him to
Speaker 5: do that one commercial really and I guess.
Speaker 1: It just pay child supports.
Speaker 4: It was like, man, I got go get right zero
Speaker 4: on the back of that thing. You sign me up.
Speaker 2: I did like the Dunkeys don't not commercials just so funny.
Speaker 1: I did really funny. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: I love the Dunkeys. Don't not Commerca they would hate
Speaker 5: no stop Buckers. And can we all agree this. We
Speaker 5: have seen a side of Bill Belichick this last year.
Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on time? Do I got a man
Speaker 5: crush on me?
Speaker 1: Loud?
Speaker 4: Did that man walk in there with all the rings
Speaker 4: on like that?
Speaker 1: That's what talking about?
Speaker 2: He'd be wading so much.
Speaker 3: I know it white over right now that twenty four
Speaker 3: year old listen boys, you doing something to listen, Bill,
Speaker 3: let me beat the local, right.
Speaker 2: I love it because he.
Speaker 1: Looks so happy. He was a miserable coaching. You think.
Speaker 2: Bill looks happy with him, I say, mister t him.
Speaker 1: It is uh, it is interesting why like so buttoned
Speaker 1: up he's in the dunking commercials.
Speaker 2: It's like going back and forth being out.
Speaker 3: I said, Bill Belichick and lost his marbles and he
Speaker 3: walking in with all the rings and Bill stunning.
Speaker 1: But if I want a those supperts, I wear the rings. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: we all probably will. Belichick.
Speaker 2: Listen, this dude not the guy that said I'm just.
Speaker 1: One year. He had to.
Speaker 3: Change the total outlook of who he is. Like, I
Speaker 3: think he's ready to go to college. I think he's
Speaker 3: really ready to go out there domin the college. I
Speaker 3: think they can honestly see that you for woman, he
Speaker 3: got saying that college you for this dude. Some players
Speaker 3: going to Bill, man, I want to go, especially if
Speaker 3: they got any kind of military apparents. You're going to
Speaker 3: build like his hands down and no, Carolina is a
Speaker 3: hot bed of talent. They got talent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure to see what he does there for sure.
Speaker 1: But let's get back. So next segment, this is it
Speaker 1: We got to blood into this already? So about about
Speaker 1: hosting might be risking for the biscuit. How did the
Speaker 1: commanders learn from the Eagles already? Talk to us a
Speaker 1: little bit with the offensive line, defensive line specifically, the
Speaker 1: interior pass rusher. And as always this is presented by
Speaker 1: marsh McLennon agency, your partner in risk and people strategies. Right,
Speaker 1: So if I had to say, we did too, and
Speaker 1: I think those were maybe the biggest takeaways probably from
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, if I had you pick four more
Speaker 1: right from Philly, Like, if we got to beat Philly,
Speaker 1: how do we do? We said, offensive line, the defensive line,
Speaker 1: interior pass rusher specifically, right, if I said four more, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are they?
Speaker 5: I say, we want to Well, I think we got
Speaker 5: the quarterback corner corner corner right corner.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're just gonna try and kill Santana. I would
Speaker 1: have to get a quarterback now, I'm just saying cornerback play.
Speaker 3: I just feel like, don't get me wrong, and like,
Speaker 3: and I hate, you hate when we have these conversations
Speaker 3: because people think they're.
Speaker 2: Trying to race somebody race.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying that, but to be dominant.
Speaker 3: You need strong plates. You know what I'm saying, Like, like, okay,
Speaker 3: say favors of that team. Then so let me cut
Speaker 3: you off this one second. So when do we say this.
Speaker 1: We're not saying that the people on the team are bad,
Speaker 1: all right, We're saying when you put your g gim
Speaker 1: head on, you got to think about how do we
Speaker 1: get how do I upgrade? How do we get to
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain. So, like, I love what
Speaker 1: everyone did this year, like literally, like this was awesome
Speaker 1: to be a part of Austin to cover the team.
Speaker 2: But if you got to get better with Philly showed
Speaker 2: us we still need to get better, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Did they were okay defensively, like like they were okay
Speaker 1: last year offensively, but they made a huge investment there
Speaker 1: because they knew they had to get better. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's kind of what we're talking.
Speaker 5: The first two picks on defensive players, and they brought C. J.
Speaker 5: Gard and the Johnson back, so they understood the messic.
Speaker 5: But I would say, I love b Rob, I love Echo.
Speaker 5: I just feel like I'm on a game changer back then.
Speaker 2: Do they grown trees?
Speaker 1: No, A lot of them. Yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: them in this draft.
Speaker 3: I do believe to running back, but I, like I
Speaker 3: said before, I'm on the fence with the running best
Speaker 3: because I feel like if you get a bed of line,
Speaker 3: you can get those those yards that we didn't get
Speaker 3: against some of those style defensives.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And getting back to my point about the quarnerback play,
Speaker 3: I feel like bringing latim on in strengthened us, you know,
Speaker 3: but now let him play football, not oh, you're gonna
Speaker 3: follow this guy.
Speaker 2: I hate that.
Speaker 3: I hate that whole I've always hated that because you
Speaker 3: can't single no guy out. I'm running full speed at
Speaker 3: you if you ever, and man, I should beat you,
Speaker 3: especially if I'm on this level.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I don't care who you got deon Sanders Reeves, Alan,
Speaker 3: you gonna get beat by somebody in this league, and
Speaker 3: man the man, it don't matter. So I hate that
Speaker 3: we put that kind of pressure on guys like Latimore
Speaker 3: anybody who plays that position.
Speaker 1: Y'all.
Speaker 4: That's the toughest position in football.
Speaker 3: If you ask me, cornerbacks is one of the toughest
Speaker 3: positions along So bringing him in strengthens us. But get
Speaker 3: another guy or two that for them. Because think about this,
Speaker 3: This is one of the examples I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 3: When we had a young RG three at quarterback, why
Speaker 3: he was so successful that first year. Yes one we
Speaker 3: changed the offense for to fit him, but his receivers
Speaker 3: was all guys that You had a Pr god Son,
Speaker 3: a young pr got song in his prime.
Speaker 4: You had you had Josh Morgan that was young, still
Speaker 4: in his prime.
Speaker 1: Doll.
Speaker 3: They moved me from Z and put me in the slot.
Speaker 3: So now I'm dominating from came from outside, dominating. I'm
Speaker 3: eating on the guys in the inside. So you had
Speaker 3: all these guys around them. You still had Koolie, you
Speaker 3: had Fred Davis, all those guys at tight end. So
Speaker 3: you had Soap and my guy here, mister Polson himself,
Speaker 3: who got the guys around him that made him better,
Speaker 3: you know, especially the passing game, so he couldn't be wrong.
Speaker 1: He could throw whoever were gonna play.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean by our defense and our cornerbacks,
Speaker 3: like you want enough guys there with either whereas veteran
Speaker 3: leadership or who just knowing how to play football that
Speaker 3: you could never go on the secondary. Now you know,
Speaker 3: you could put them in situations where he's going to
Speaker 3: play corner the way I know he needs to play corner.
Speaker 3: So that's where I want to see more guys there
Speaker 3: that our true corners that I don't have to tell
Speaker 3: this particular guy he needs to press him. You know,
Speaker 3: you know when you got a certain Gamesah, no matter
Speaker 3: what coach told you, I want to do it my way.
Speaker 4: You say, you know what, Now, I gotta slow this.
Speaker 4: Damn put hands on this, dude.
Speaker 3: I need to see more of those kind of guys
Speaker 3: from us because I feel like we have the we
Speaker 3: have the skin, we have the players up you know,
Speaker 3: in front. We need a guy to that say you
Speaker 3: know what, screw screwed? Is this the only woman be
Speaker 3: able to slow him down and then be able to
Speaker 3: still do what I do?
Speaker 2: But I think this is said way until the next one,
Speaker 2: my second pick. I think we need a freakish tight end.
Speaker 5: You know, I always feel like the tight end is
Speaker 5: the quarterback's best friend. I really do you know, zach Ertz,
Speaker 5: what he did for us this year was unbelievable. Again
Speaker 5: took I want, I want.
Speaker 1: But getting a little long in the two.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I need you to train somebody for me,
Speaker 5: and I just think of you only think we have
Speaker 5: one in the building. I think being syndic can develop
Speaker 5: into that. But when I say freakish, you want somebody
Speaker 5: to be like he can?
Speaker 1: He can?
Speaker 4: You want to nothing? Nothing?
Speaker 3: You want to you want to Jordan Reed, Yeah, Jordan Reid,
Speaker 3: people want to stand up.
Speaker 2: I want a guy that we alert on defense, like
Speaker 2: we have certain guys.
Speaker 4: We'll learned that we got one. I want to win
Speaker 4: in the draft Miami.
Speaker 5: On tight en, I don't really know what you're talking about. Roy, No, Roy,
Speaker 5: you could play. It is like six tight ends. It's
Speaker 5: like six tight ends in this draft. Who I think
Speaker 5: of high end talents. I want one of those guys
Speaker 5: because if you ever want us to play fair on defense,
Speaker 5: meaning we can't lean right, we can't lean left, and
Speaker 5: we can't lean to the run, put a good tight
Speaker 5: end on the field. You put a good tight end
Speaker 5: on the field, we play everything equal.
Speaker 3: It's safe to say this year when they tried to,
Speaker 3: you know, keep us honest offensively, they tried to do
Speaker 3: the best they could outside and they left by tight
Speaker 3: end one on one and they didn't think that zach
Speaker 3: Erthen still beat guys one and when he beat him
Speaker 3: to a potland You know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 3: just want a guy who can get over you. Don't
Speaker 3: get me wrong, I understand that, but I want somebody
Speaker 3: can get up.
Speaker 1: I got a question about this, So like, obviously tight end,
Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point because again, like
Speaker 1: what Zach this year was so special, what a good
Speaker 1: tight end does from creating mispatches, when you can do
Speaker 1: for reformation like that, it's a huge deal. What a
Speaker 1: second receiver I.
Speaker 4: Was gonna get to that you can have a similar thing.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Is it is it?
Speaker 1: Is it terry tight end and then running back? Or
Speaker 1: is it terry and then another?
Speaker 3: So and I say this because I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 3: Like I said before, I feel quarterbacks will make receivers better.
Speaker 3: So if you got a quarterback like we have, those
Speaker 3: guys are gonna play play ball. But you get in
Speaker 3: one of those games where it's a dog fight, dog
Speaker 3: on dog and one of them dogs got you your
Speaker 3: dog by the neck. You need another dog. You need it,
Speaker 3: not a guy who's playing this. You need a guy
Speaker 3: to say, don't play with me, play with him you better.
Speaker 3: You better find a way, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So like when you look at Cincinnati playing and see
Speaker 3: what you know that.
Speaker 1: I feel bad at.
Speaker 3: Times when I watched those those guys play because it's
Speaker 3: a shame how we just forgot T Higgins is a
Speaker 3: number one received just happened to be in one beach,
Speaker 3: just so happened that he started, and he has a
Speaker 3: thousand yards with two or three years before on your boy,
Speaker 3: get Jamal Chase get there, and it's like, oh, well
Speaker 3: T Higgins.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, he's there.
Speaker 4: He's a guy. Now, No, he's not a guy.
Speaker 3: He's a guy that can go out there arguably be
Speaker 3: anybody's number one receive on their other team.
Speaker 4: So when you have a guy like that, he's a
Speaker 4: guy that if.
Speaker 3: You do say I'm a roll coverage over here, to
Speaker 3: to Terry to Jamar, you have a guy in Ti
Speaker 3: Higgins says you can't leave one on one, you can't
Speaker 3: leave you can't even try to double him because he
Speaker 3: he has that factor in them that he can go
Speaker 3: out there and dominate whatever you put in front of him.
Speaker 3: So good, I do believe it's all done. We don't
Speaker 3: need another guy like that.
Speaker 5: You know, a good number two helps number one blocks
Speaker 5: I mean reach his peak.
Speaker 1: But I guess somebody like the original question, can the
Speaker 1: number two be a tight end or does it have
Speaker 1: to be?
Speaker 3: I think it can be both, can be both. I
Speaker 3: think we saw that Zach was arguably our he's the
Speaker 3: number two receiver.
Speaker 1: He was the number two.
Speaker 5: But I think, especially from a defensive corner perspective, when
Speaker 5: we have two legit receives out there, we tend to
Speaker 5: not double the other guy. We tend to do things differently.
Speaker 5: We tend to play on an equal like an equal field.
Speaker 5: So maybe a guy on the outside, but to me,
Speaker 5: he has to be totally different. So just then, Terry,
Speaker 5: just think about some.
Speaker 3: Of the teams that had two to three receivers that
Speaker 3: was two of them was at least one Age and
Speaker 3: one of the Philadelphia so not I'm goinna get there
Speaker 3: when I'm talking about in our years the Rams, Brece Bruston, Hope, uh,
Speaker 3: Indianapolis Reggie and your boy Marvin Harris, Marbn Harrison, and
Speaker 3: then they end up getting stokely how that happened?
Speaker 4: So and then let's keep going.
Speaker 3: Arizona had Fitzgerald and Bowl. Yeah, Cleveland, I mean not Cleveland.
Speaker 3: North Carolina had Steve Smithe Smith.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know this thing about that, like that alone,
Speaker 4: like you go into those games, like.
Speaker 3: We gotta start two people, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: and then the tight end could be whoever, because.
Speaker 2: Gonna be one on He's gonna be one on one
Speaker 2: whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it sounds like we're saying, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit more dynamic quarterback play corner sounds like
Speaker 1: some offensive firepower. Yeah. And then if there's one more
Speaker 1: position that we kind of had to look at, I
Speaker 1: got one that I'm thinking about, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you guys before he started, before you.
Speaker 2: One more position. I feel good about the safe. This
Speaker 2: we need to resign.
Speaker 4: I love us. This is the first thing we need
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 1: He's a free agent, depending free agent.
Speaker 5: And Bobby Yeah, I won't Bobby waggon a Bay all right, So.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say so obviously Bobby Wagger bringing back
Speaker 1: the leadership. I think when you look at McGee, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing I would say too, is like can
Speaker 1: you find your Zach Bond, your Fred Warner, your Rokwan
Speaker 1: Smith and get him in there? Because I think about again,
Speaker 1: I think I think Bobby did a good job this year.
Speaker 1: But I think you do also see sometimes changed.
Speaker 5: You're not trying to be mean at GM's from the
Speaker 5: forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Drake Greenlow is a free agent from the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows him well.
Speaker 2: He knows him well, Dre green laws, mothers, paint swapping,
Speaker 2: Bobby Drey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just having a guy like again like getting
Speaker 1: to me. It's more about not.
Speaker 4: A GM boy be crying.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't cut him.
Speaker 2: I can't cut him. I can't.
Speaker 1: I won't do it.
Speaker 9: I say, cut anybody but your job in order for
Speaker 9: you to get some of these guys, you know what
Speaker 9: I'm saying, So getting that.
Speaker 1: Elite kind of underneath coverage player, a guy that you
Speaker 1: can speed to contact the football. Again, Like so we
Speaker 1: talked about offensive line, interior, defensive pass rush, pass rush
Speaker 1: in general, quarterback play, offensive playmaker, linebacker. I mean that
Speaker 1: seems like.
Speaker 3: I feel recovering the moment, and I think we cover
Speaker 3: them all things you think about, you said, receiver, We
Speaker 3: said on line in D line already, cornerback, you know,
Speaker 3: get up.
Speaker 1: Get up.
Speaker 2: So basically what we want to do is at least
Speaker 2: one person.
Speaker 1: You add that.
Speaker 5: I want to addt least one person to each room,
Speaker 5: and I'm not adding them for the floor. I'm adding
Speaker 5: them for the cyling.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 4: So so you want a guy coming in and always ready,
Speaker 4: I want on them.
Speaker 5: I want to shake up most of the rooms to
Speaker 5: the point where it's another alpha in every room.
Speaker 3: You're basically saying, if you was ready last year, you're
Speaker 3: gonna be You're gonna be ready, not ready.
Speaker 1: This guy, he's here to compete. I think that's some
Speaker 1: of the best teams I played for. They were hyper
Speaker 1: competitive and that's what you got to do. That's how
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 4: Man at that receiver room, like you bring them young
Speaker 4: guys in there, you'd be like, okay.
Speaker 1: So even though the even though this super Bowl is
Speaker 1: kind of boring on paper, I do think it's illuminating
Speaker 1: and I think it shows you kind of what the
Speaker 1: commanders need to do to get it. I mean to
Speaker 1: be to win.
Speaker 5: The Super Bowls were about every room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's something that fans have our
Speaker 1: time with because again, like we love this team, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have our time with you. Like what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: Like you love these players, you love what they did,
Speaker 1: you love their commitment, but how do you go from
Speaker 1: good to great? And that's the hard thing.
Speaker 3: And it's great that we don't have that problem of
Speaker 3: making those decisions. But I'm also great to have the
Speaker 3: guy here to make to make the whold to see it.
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm loving. You know, we look at
Speaker 4: what I say, I don't I sleep well now, I like.
Speaker 1: Got to do, got to make the whole decisions man,
Speaker 1: And he shows and he's showing over his career and
Speaker 1: he's able to do that. But that's gonna do it
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