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Speaker 1: my neck of the woods, Philly. Congressman, how are you?

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Speaker 1: track this in a way so that you're able to

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Speaker 1: hold the individuals not just you know, the current document

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Speaker 1: of the over office, but to hold all of the

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Speaker 1: individuals accountable for what happened at the Capitol last week,

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Speaker 1: in addition to addressing these incredibly, incredibly important issues that

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Speaker 1: are ravaging millions of American families. I'll put it this way.

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Speaker 1: I hope so okay, this is I need more than hope.

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Speaker 1: Well that's all I can do. I can only hope.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in this Senate. I hope they can do

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Speaker 1: all those things and such as the virus deal with

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Speaker 1: the economic package, deal with the issue about impeachment. You know,

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Speaker 1: we have to learn no more different than constituently represent

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Speaker 1: people do find a way to manage and we must

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Speaker 1: do the same thing we did it in out I

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Speaker 1: hope they will do it in the Senate, and then

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Speaker 1: we're do it for the sake of accountability. No one

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Speaker 1: is above the law. No one, not President, Congress, not Senate,

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Speaker 1: no one is above the law. So the fact of

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Speaker 1: the matter is this is a question of accountability. We

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Speaker 1: must have accountability in our political process. If we're talking

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Speaker 1: about making economic investments, we have to have that confidence.

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Speaker 1: We cannot take that for granted, and we can't think

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Speaker 1: about it the lady you know here in the city office. Congressman,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on today. And I

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Speaker 1: want to follow up something that's really a lot more

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Speaker 1: clear and dear to you, which is the House of Representatives.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of discussion within the House about

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Speaker 1: how to handle the conduct of some of the House

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Speaker 1: members and their potential culpability in stoking the riot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: starting with obviously the denial of the election, but also

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Speaker 1: some pretty heated words in advance of the attack on

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Speaker 1: the Capitol. That sounded like promoting, uh, the attack and

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Speaker 1: and I'm curious if there are active discussions under way

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Speaker 1: for censure resolutions and maybe worse. Uh. The answer is yes,

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Speaker 1: all those things on the table. We need to view

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Speaker 1: the behavior of members of Congress who have acted in

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Speaker 1: ways that have contributed it. They are not above the

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Speaker 1: law needed. These members have to behold held accountable and

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Speaker 1: their behaviors to be held accountable. So the fact of

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Speaker 1: the matter is they too. It will be reviewed. We

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Speaker 1: looked at it, and we have these types of discussions.

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Speaker 1: But I've shared with you everything is on the table,

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Speaker 1: and the fact of them is they have to be accountable.

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Speaker 1: What's the key to this democracy is accountability. That's very essential.

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Speaker 1: So they must be health and they will be health accuntable.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Evans, it's it's great to talk to you. And

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Speaker 1: I have to say, Kevin, I love Lady Gaga, but

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Speaker 1: I'm also looking forward to John Legend and Bruce Springsteen

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Speaker 1: and Bruce I love the Boss absolutely, but she's doing

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Speaker 1: the national anthem, so I just kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: I hear you. So, Congressman, I wanted to just get

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Speaker 1: your reaction. I mean, you already talked about this a

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Speaker 1: little bit to what you heard last night from President

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Speaker 1: elect Biden, and specifically with all your work and the

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Speaker 1: small business um. Where do you think the package is

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Speaker 1: going to look like coming out of the House and

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Speaker 1: into the Senate in terms of funding for small businesses

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Speaker 1: And do you foresee any pushed back from the other

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Speaker 1: side on that kind of funding or do you think

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Speaker 1: that's going to be one of the lower hanging fruits. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of the lower hanging Who's one

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Speaker 1: thing about small business, it tends to be supported by

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Speaker 1: both sides, And in my view, we recognize small businesses

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Speaker 1: the backbone of our economy, and we need to set

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Speaker 1: a message that small businesses are exhausted from this pandemic.

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Speaker 1: So we have to we have to hear our small businesses,

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Speaker 1: you know, in this case of Philadelphia has been devastated,

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Speaker 1: you know, from restaurants to other kinds of small businesses.

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Speaker 1: Though it's clear that we have to. I like the hope,

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Speaker 1: even though Kevin says he needs more than that I can.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I can have this open and optimism

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Speaker 1: that individuals will know how to act and that they

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Speaker 1: will be adult behavior I think that's what the words

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Speaker 1: are looking for from us. Yeah, And just to follow

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Speaker 1: up on that breed, do you have concerns about particularly

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Speaker 1: the p P P and some of what was done earlier.

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Speaker 1: You know, as you think about we keep hearing about

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Speaker 1: some of the big businesses, um that that got some

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Speaker 1: funding versus some of the small businesses, and how do

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Speaker 1: we guard against that and make sure that this money

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Speaker 1: is targeted to those people that in business is particularly

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Speaker 1: impacted by COVID and and and in need. I believe

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Speaker 1: with the changing of the guard that will make a

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Speaker 1: huge difference. We have learned from the past and the

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Speaker 1: cares that act is now in time with new people

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Speaker 1: in there. Even on the Small Business Committee, we are

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Speaker 1: we've learned a lot, We've learned some lessons. We're trying

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Speaker 1: to learn from those lessons and be more effective in execution.

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Speaker 1: That is a very essential party that you see. The

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Speaker 1: Vice President, like Biden, has shown the commitment with one

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Speaker 1: point nine trillion dollar initiative, and even the Chairman of

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Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve has stated we should go big and

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Speaker 1: go bold. I think this is all in alignment with

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Speaker 1: the chairman of such a reserve as expressed you're in

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Speaker 1: the go ahead, go ahead. Understand that this is a

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Speaker 1: part of the continued down down payment to Vice President

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Speaker 1: Biden is talked about, and Vice President Biden is setting

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Speaker 1: up so when he gives the speech in February, he

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Speaker 1: will be talking about a long term INITIATID in terms

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Speaker 1: of infrastructure. So you beca to put these two initiatives together.

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Speaker 1: We will send a message to this economy that we

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Speaker 1: are not playing around. So I mean you, I hear

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Speaker 1: you in terms of in terms of the small business

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Speaker 1: and of course that's really one of the policy areas

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Speaker 1: that you are really in the mix on on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 1: But in your district, the third Congressional District of Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, Philly, my beloved city, a brotherly love. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a foodie and I love Dante Luigi's

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Speaker 1: and I love Madora Mecca and the Bomb Bomb Room,

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Speaker 1: and you know my dad always took me to Sunday

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Speaker 1: dinners on Street. But I gotta ask you, can they

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Speaker 1: afford a fifteen dollar minimum wage? Because you know your

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Speaker 1: Republican friends are gonna say that they can't, especially when

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Speaker 1: they can't even open their doors. I would argue you

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Speaker 1: can afford not to. You have to do both. You

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Speaker 1: have to do both. You have to be very creative.

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Speaker 1: In the case of Ville off it when you look

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Speaker 1: at surround these states, you look at Delaware and you

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Speaker 1: look at New Jersey. From a competitive standpoint, Pennsylvania is

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Speaker 1: at seven seven dollars or fifty cents. You have to

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Speaker 1: empower people to have money to spend in this economy.

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Speaker 1: It's been leading it out there. If you want this

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Speaker 1: economy that operate, people must have money in their pockets

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Speaker 1: and we must spend that money to keep it moving.

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Speaker 1: So what I'm saying that you, if we're working together,

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Speaker 1: we don't go through the same argument that this is

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Speaker 1: taking advantage of small businesses. I'll say to you that

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Speaker 1: we can move in Look just one time. Look you

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Speaker 1: have presidents like Biden being swan in next week. Let's

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Speaker 1: work together. I'm on the mission of us collectively functioning

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Speaker 1: with small business that small businesses that's shopped that's helped

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Speaker 1: the economy. What about go ahead? I was just gonna

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Speaker 1: ask the congressman, Um, you know, we've we've got this

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Speaker 1: great one point nine trillion dollar policy package on the table.

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Speaker 1: You were just talking about. You know, with these kinds

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Speaker 1: of boost for UH minimum wage in them, and you

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Speaker 1: mentioned to congressmen, you know something that has a lot

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Speaker 1: of bipartisan support, which is a infrastructure bill that could

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Speaker 1: actually put people back to work, and the moneys that

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Speaker 1: go into that, you know, can help build a stronger

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Speaker 1: UH base in the American industry. So at some point, um,

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Speaker 1: the Bank comes calling and says, look, you've run up

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Speaker 1: a lot of that here. Um, what are we gonna

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Speaker 1: do about it? Is there a discussion going on in

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Speaker 1: your committees about how much is enough and how much

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Speaker 1: maybe too much, and what the ramifications of that might be.

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Speaker 1: But I believe that if you go by the Chairman

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Speaker 1: of the Federal Reserves, is not in my caucus. Noise

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Speaker 1: is in the replica. He said that we need to

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Speaker 1: go big and we need to go bald in terms

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Speaker 1: of this economy. So this is something that we should

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Speaker 1: once and for all take keys of what he has

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Speaker 1: said and take advantage of that. That's that's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That you know the fact that that came from him,

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Speaker 1: and will believe that Vice President Biden is building on

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Speaker 1: exactly what he is said that it is in our

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Speaker 1: interests to do that to begin to build infrastructure. It

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Speaker 1: is in our interest rose bridges, WiFi, all hospitals, you

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Speaker 1: name it. It is in our interest to do that.

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Speaker 1: About the economy, First Congressman shl with me, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean that you know that's well, who do you

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Speaker 1: who do you think should be in the mix for

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Senate seat? Now, that to me isn't gonna run up.

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Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't focused too much on that. I'm

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Speaker 1: focused on your mind this week. I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of my mind. So so we can take you to

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Speaker 1: have rid and overthrow the government. Right, And look, we

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Speaker 1: had to leave up two police officers that I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to protect us thanks to the madige that we gotta

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Speaker 1: keep in mind those police officers they're trying to protect.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, did I say this? And it's I

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Speaker 1: don't want to sound like a broken record. And Rick

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Speaker 1: and Tini have just been so spot on on this.

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Speaker 1: And I think Tom Keane, my my friend here and

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Speaker 1: my mentor here at Bloomberg Bloomberg Surveillance, Tom Keane, I

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Speaker 1: think he's been really good with the tone on this

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Speaker 1: and strong and and look, I mean, if you leave Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. People are looking at what happened as just

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Speaker 1: absolute insanity. And I guess, I guess there's this, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I was talking with a family member earlier, after

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Speaker 1: nine eleven, the country came together. The country came together.

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Speaker 1: I remember that. I mean I was a kid. But

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Speaker 1: here you have a whole generation congressman of of Americans

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Speaker 1: who are not necessarily witnessing that. And isn't it up

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Speaker 1: to people like you and and you're Democratic and Republican

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Speaker 1: colleagues to find a way, and maybe it's not in

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Speaker 1: front of a camera, but to have a retreat, to

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Speaker 1: go to talk, to listen to one another so that

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Speaker 1: this can be healed. And can you give us anything

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Speaker 1: that perhaps we're moving in that direction and that this

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Speaker 1: time will be different. President Bush, President Obama, and President

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Speaker 1: Clinton be at President elect Bidens swearing it. That should

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Speaker 1: tell you something. President Bush, President Clinton, President Obama are

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Speaker 1: going to be at his That is sending a message

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Speaker 1: in itself, that's been a message. Even Vice President Pence

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Speaker 1: is going to be there. So when you begin to

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Speaker 1: say the best way to send a message is by

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Speaker 1: your behavior, That's the best way to send a message.

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Speaker 1: With President pen and and all of the people being there. Look,

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Speaker 1: they're coming there to celebrate the transformation, the transformation of

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Speaker 1: a brand new president. And that's important, Kevin, that we

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Speaker 1: should not take that lightly. That is that is really

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Speaker 1: really well said. And and I think Connressman, right, Avan,

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Speaker 1: who's with us? Uh, you know, I think that that

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Speaker 1: symbolism so incredibly important. To follow up on that point,

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Speaker 1: do you feel that the trial in the Senate that

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Speaker 1: folks ought to take a breath and and really make

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Speaker 1: sure that everything is investigated, but also to give America

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Speaker 1: time to heal, process, move forward, refocus on the vaccination effort.

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Speaker 1: And the second part to that question is, as Rick

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Speaker 1: said to me earlier this week, the humility that Americans

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Speaker 1: need to feel about what was just projected all around

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Speaker 1: the world, all around the world in the past two

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Speaker 1: weeks as a result of that attack on the Capitol. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: you know, you asked a very good question. I say

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Speaker 1: this to and on the very sincere at this point,

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Speaker 1: the trial, we can do more than one thing. And

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Speaker 1: the trial should be conducted. It should be open, they

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Speaker 1: should be transparent. It should be a trial that's conducted.

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Speaker 1: It was a bipartisan resolution of impeachment. There were ten

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Speaker 1: Republicans that they just wouldn't. Democrats have ten rebubbles that

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Speaker 1: also voted for the impeachment. The trial should be conducted.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be hidden, it should be open, and then

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Speaker 1: the Senate has a decision to make. Now, we did

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Speaker 1: what we needed to do. The Senate needs to do

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Speaker 1: what it needs to do. They should take the action.

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Speaker 1: In addition to that, why that's happening. Vice President elect Biden,

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Speaker 1: the Senator, like Harris, introduced a one point nine trillion

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Speaker 1: initiative yesterday. So they introduced the initiative. You have the

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Speaker 1: impeachment going on. Now we're going to go through the

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Speaker 1: investigation and begin to find out what exactly happened on

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Speaker 1: the hill. That is also going on in addition to that,

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Speaker 1: and a swinging is being conducted this week. So I'm

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Speaker 1: saying to you, we're hitting it from every single front,

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Speaker 1: from every single front that we're sending a message this

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Speaker 1: is still the greatest country in the world. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: have challenges, We as a country have challenges, but the

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Speaker 1: fact of the matter, we're not running from these challenges.

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Speaker 1: We can deal with these challenges. I was just going

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Speaker 1: to ask you because I mean, here we are on

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Speaker 1: the beginning of Martin Luther King holiday weekend, and and

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Speaker 1: and and here's a man who has been the symbol

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Speaker 1: for non violent protests, and we've just gone through this

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Speaker 1: ugly upheaval at the Capitol, and and it don't we

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to, in the memory of Martin Luther King,

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Speaker 1: have a conversation about what we find is acceptable to

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Speaker 1: the standards of this country. I think that's appropriate that

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Speaker 1: you would bring up his name. It's rather interesting on

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Speaker 1: the timing. What better American World Citizen and Dr Martin

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Speaker 1: movie that we could bring up that would talk about peace.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's the message you talked about. He died

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Speaker 1: in the violent way, being a sassinated, but he talked

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Speaker 1: about peace. So I'm saying that you about around Dr

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Speaker 1: King's celebration, there's a chance for all of us to

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Speaker 1: a let there's a chance for all of this to reflood,

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Speaker 1: that this can be a better country. We have work

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Speaker 1: to do. It's not gonna happen if we don't work

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Speaker 1: at it. If we don't work at it, we don't

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Speaker 1: need to use violence, don't need to use destruction. What

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Speaker 1: happened in the Capital last week was outrageous, having individuals

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Speaker 1: attacked people, having individuals put elected officials under siege. You know,

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Speaker 1: when I when I was elected to this particular position,

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Speaker 1: I never thought that my my life would be in jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: I never thought that would happen. But at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, that's what's happening. But but I'm still

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Speaker 1: gonna be there and Washington, d C. It is important,

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Speaker 1: It is important with the conversation that we're having today

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Speaker 1: that we must fork out a way to address these

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Speaker 1: issues because there's a lot of challenges going on this country,

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Speaker 1: income inequality, small businesses collapsing, what's happening without in this community,

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Speaker 1: what's happening in our neighborhood, was happening, hoalsy, you know,

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Speaker 1: you name it. I don't have to tell you know

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Speaker 1: the challenges that we have. But it will will require

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Speaker 1: a new type of leadership. And we're going to get

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Speaker 1: that new type of leadership. It's been settled. It was

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Speaker 1: settled on November three. As we said, this was the

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Speaker 1: most secure, open and transparent election has demonstrated through Georgia,

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Speaker 1: as the people in Georgia's stated, Arizona, Pennsylvania. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's very clear it was decided by the voters, and

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Speaker 1: the voters decided that they'd like to have in Congressman,

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Speaker 1: I almost hesitate to follow up asking you this because

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Speaker 1: you're speaking so beautifully, and I just wanted to get

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Speaker 1: your reaction about something one of your colleagues that we've

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Speaker 1: been hearing, and it's on this issue of violence that

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Speaker 1: lawmakers carrying guns in Congress has made some of your

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Speaker 1: colleagues feel unsafe, and I wondered if you or any

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Speaker 1: of your staff have felt that way, and if there

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Speaker 1: is any concerted effort on the part of Democratic leadership

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Speaker 1: or members to address this issue, because it's something we

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Speaker 1: keep hearing about. Um, there's no question. Look, I personally,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that should happen. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: wide behavior. I don't agree with it. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, there are some individuals who choose

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Speaker 1: to test for some reason, to test the system as

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Speaker 1: individuals who choose not the way. I'm mad. A mask

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a political statement. It's about saving

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Speaker 1: the health of this country. So at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, we need to have the kind of cooperative

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Speaker 1: behavior maybe guns, maybe mask. We need to have that

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Speaker 1: behavior on dr about living in birthday. Just think what

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Speaker 1: he would have said to us if he's looking back today.

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Speaker 1: Each how you know we have to rise to this level.

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Speaker 1: And I'm saying to you that's unfortunate. You would expect

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Speaker 1: the political leadership to rise to this level. We can

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Speaker 1: gun to the House floor, Congressman, or the Eagle is

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Speaker 1: gonna win the Super Bowl next year? Absolutely? Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I agree, there's some hope. That's what I needed. Congressman's

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Speaker 1: White Evans. Everyone say, is not a strategy. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: you know what, it's a medicine. Never forget that direct

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Speaker 1: and listen, they shouldn't have gotten rid of Doug. Look

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Speaker 1: what it did for the city of Little New England

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Speaker 1: patriots exactly and that and don't even get me started.

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Speaker 1: And I couldn't even go to the parade because you

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Speaker 1: all shut down the government and I had to cover

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Speaker 1: the budget crisis. You don't think I'm better, Congressman, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Dright Evans. I'll catch up with you later, Congressman Dwight

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Speaker 1: Evans from the City of Brotherly Love. Uh And and

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Speaker 1: there you have it. I mean, what a week might

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Jeanie shan Zano and to Rick Davis as well.

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Speaker 1: UH for just navigating through another another really meaningful week

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Inauguration Week. We made it to

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Speaker 1: Inauguration Week. Next week I will be there, We have

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Speaker 1: live continuing coverage. Rick and Guini will be there as well.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Happy Martin Luther King Day. And

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Speaker 1: we say this is Bloomberger