1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. All Right, we have time for Niles in 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Alaska and the back half of our last hour for 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: open lines on Coast to Coast Niles. Hi, and how's 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: it going doing great our things up in Alaska tonight? Well, 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's raining as usual. You can tell me 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: on the rain. I love a good RAINA for anyone 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: out there who's never been to catch Can Alaska or 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: they've never heard of catch Can Alaska. If you've ever 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: seen Star Wars episode two, Clone Wars when Obi Wan 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: Kenobi goes to Camino, the planet where they make the clones. Yeah, 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: and it's like there's a factory on a rock in 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: the middle of the ocean and it just rains the 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: whole time. That's yeah, catch a Can. Is that a 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: bad thing? It sounds great to me. No, it's just 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: kind of soothing most of the time. Actually, yeah, you know, 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: I would think. I think it is on my window 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: right now listening to it watching it. Yeah. What what 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: do you do for a living? Well, I'm a delivery driver, 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: a prep cook, and a karaoke host. Do you are 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: you a karaoke host? I'm a karaoke host. Yeah, I 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: love what's the hot song these days for for the 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: drunk office crowd? Oh geez, you know, Um, it depends 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: on what kind of crowd you're looking at. Are you 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: looking at a like Filipino fisherman? Are you looking at Oh? 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. Does I mean? There's a lot of country, 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: that's for sure, which is not necessarily my taste. But 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: i'd say, like, uh, you never call me by my 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: name or um, let's see. You know, it's gotta be 30 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: like sweet Caroline, which I'm sure is oh yeah and 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: done to death and karaoke bars all over the country 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: fairly universal, but yeah, right, I get that. How about 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: let's see if if you're ever working a night and 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: some up there is singing, uh swinging by John Anderson 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: or um. I could think about half a dozen other 36 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: country songs that that maybe the only time it would 37 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: be me Otherwise I don't sing a lot of country, 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: but I happen to. I find country songs very easy 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: to sing in a karaoke environment, and so I would 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: probably have to go country too if I were if 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: I were fourth involved. Yeah, and they're not hard melodically, right, 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, well, good. I'm sure that's not why you 43 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: were calling, but I appreciate you indulging me. Where are 44 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: you going to take? I mean, I could probably talk 45 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: to you for half an hour about the church of karaoke, 46 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: as I called, I would definitely do that. I was 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: actually talking about doing a karaoke night with my staff 48 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: not too long ago, and I thought, Oh, that would 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: be really fun. And then I thought, no, I'll be 50 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: the only idiot getting up there. That's the people. You 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't do it up on YouTube. You'll have another subscriber, 52 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: that's for sure. There you go, I like one. This 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: is my first time calling. Um. I've been listening to 54 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: the Coast to Coast for I mean since I was 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: a little kid, since I was like probably seven eight 56 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: years old, you know, I listened to Art Bell, George 57 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Nor and it's always meant a lot to me. It 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: always kind of opened up my mind a bit, helped 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: me think about things in a different way, from a 60 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: different from a different perspective than I did. And there's 61 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: been a question that I've been wanting to ask for 62 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: a while. I've never called in and it's something that's 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: been pressing more and more on my mind. And so 64 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: my question is, and this is for you and for 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: anyone listening, because I don't know the answer. I don't 66 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: know if anyone knows the answer or if you ever 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: will um. And so this is a small town. You know, 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: it's not a big town. It's fairly isolate. It's an 69 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: island town. And I feel like growing up here. I've 70 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: lived here most of my life. People pride themselves, or 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: they have in my mind and from what I've heard, 72 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: and that everyone's neighborly. We all help each other out, right, 73 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: We all do our best to take care of each other, 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: especially when someone's down. And it doesn't matter who someone 75 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: is or what they've done or like or what you 76 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: think they are or who they are, like you help 77 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: out like you because you know it's hard to get 78 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: off this island if you don't have the means. It's expensive, 79 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: and it's expensive to live here. And my question is 80 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: right now, in this time, not just here and on 81 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: this island, or in this state, or in this country, 82 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: or on this planet, like as a species, as the 83 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: human race, in this time when we when we're more 84 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: interconnected than ever, when when many of us can reach 85 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: out at any moment and talk to people and see 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: the perspective of people all across the globe. Why isn't 87 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: there more understanding? Why? Why is there such a great 88 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: divide now? Why is it that now that no matter 89 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: what name or label you put on a person, whether 90 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: it's ideological, religious, political, spiritual, why is it that no 91 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: matter what someone is, there is another group of people 92 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: out there that is the that see themselves as the 93 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: opposite or too often as the enemy of that, and 94 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: they hate, Like, why is there so much divide and 95 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: hate now at a time when we have so many 96 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: tools to understand each other? And is it ever going 97 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: to get better? So profound questions the futurists of the 98 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies would have predicted, you know, presumably if if 99 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: we had survived, you know, some of these cataclysms which 100 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: didn't materialize, that we would have we would have bonded 101 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: together by now, And that was the hope That does 102 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: seemed to be the teleology of the you know, the 103 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: human race or the American experiences that we were heading 104 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: in this direction. I wonder whether some of it is 105 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: just generational, and part of the argument I make in 106 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: my book that I co wrote with a rabbi and 107 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: with a Muslim scholar called how Millennials can get us 108 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: out of the mess we're in? Is the argument is 109 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: that we have become then older generation has become very spoiled, 110 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: and we are faced with and I include myself in 111 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: them because I'm a baby boomer, we're faced with the 112 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: prospect of our own mortality and that we will die 113 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: and then things will change rapidly. And that's made many 114 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: people hold under the wheel ever so tighter. Yeah, and 115 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: by not being willing to let go of the wheel. Um, 116 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: we have seventy eight year old presidents, right, we have 117 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: all of these people who aren't going to right and 118 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: these long running you know who've been senators for six 119 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: election cycles and crazy numbers like this because they did 120 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: not they thought once they got there, this will never 121 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: be able to function without me. And it's this egocentricity 122 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: that I think is indicative of baby boomers. And we 123 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: just don't want to let go, and we want to 124 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: somehow dip the country in a kind of lacquer and 125 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: just because we want to seemingly think we're going to 126 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: preserve this forever and ever and ever so that when 127 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: we die everybody will have to have it the way 128 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: we had it, and all indicators are that that's not 129 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: going to happen. And with every Indica hatter that comes along, 130 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: we just hold on tighter. And I think that's kind 131 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: of where we are a little bit, is we're sort 132 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: of stuck in this hyper individualism, which is just I matter. 133 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: Why won't people pay attention to my opinions matter? When 134 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: really the thing and the last thing I want to 135 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: say is God talk about generations and you know, and 136 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: the Boomers and Millennials and now Gen Z. You know, 137 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: I grew up in the nineties and it seemed like 138 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: at the time to me as a child, and looking back, 139 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: that it was such a time of like peace, prosperity, 140 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: of acceptance, of like of understanding, and you would think 141 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: that my generation would have grown up and embodied those 142 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: traits and those values. But I look around at the 143 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: people that I know that are my age, and I 144 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: see so much egoism and so much narcissism. And I 145 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: don't know if that's a product of social media, if 146 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: it's a product of everything, yeah, having to be documented 147 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: and shown all the time, Like I don't exist unless 148 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: you see me exist. So I have to do all 149 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: these things for someone in this constant need for validation. 150 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: But it's I think you're onto something. And I think 151 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: what's interesting is that that that comes to you from 152 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: perhaps what other people might consider to be a distant perch, 153 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: and you see the same thing that the rest of 154 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: us see. And I think that the kind of tribalism 155 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: that we're going through, I am eternally optimistic, and I 156 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: believe it's a phase. I talked about this with George 157 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: nor when he was interviewing me about the about the book, 158 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I there was a reason 159 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: why Moses took a generation around the desert until they 160 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: went to the Promised Land is because they weren't They 161 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: could not handle the promised land. These are people who 162 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: had grown up with the aren't ready, and they weren't ready, 163 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: and they were never going to be ready. They had 164 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: grown up accustomed to slavery, they'd grown up accustomed to 165 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: idol worship, and much as they might have wanted to, 166 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: they couldn't make the jump. And Moses didn't either. He 167 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: died with him never saw the Promised Land, and I 168 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: don't think I ever will either. I don't think I 169 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: don't think i'd deserve to, and I think i'd I'd 170 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: like to think we could pull it out, and I'm optimistic, 171 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: but I think in some ways, really baby boomers have 172 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: to go. They have to either give up the power 173 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: and embrace being a role as mentors to the generations 174 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: that are coming behind us. Or we have to just 175 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: live in our own little communities and talk to ourselves 176 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: about how bad things are until we no one pays 177 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: any attention to us at all, because I don't see 178 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: us adding to anything right now. I see us hyping 179 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: up the anger and the rancor that's out there. And 180 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic that is a people we can get better, 181 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: and that we can use the technologies and we can 182 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: reach out to other people and we can forget so 183 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: many of these things. And yet I don't. I just 184 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: don't see us getting there the way we're acting now. Well, 185 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: what do you think, my generation, what kind of mentality 186 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: do you think we need to foster amongst ourselves or 187 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: try to help move forward? Yeah, I think it's all 188 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: about forgiveness and forbearance and optimism and trying not to 189 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: take things so seriously that every little thing has to 190 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: become a bigger thing. I think your observation about growing 191 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: up in a time of always being on, always being in, 192 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: always being on Instagram, or having to be somewhere to 193 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: be validated, I think, you know, I think that's that's 194 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: true of people your age and much younger. UM, So 195 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: I think something's got to give on that. We all 196 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: we just you know, I'm not a Zuckerberg guy, I'm 197 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: not a Facebook guy. I don't think all those things 198 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: are helpful. I think we need better leadership, and I 199 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: think we also need better self restraint on what we're 200 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: going to constantly expose ourselves to every day. If we 201 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: can do that, I think there's hope and we've probably 202 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: got a fish more. Yeah, I think thank you. I 203 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: think fishing would be I think fishing would help us all. Nah. 204 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it, and I thank you for contributing 205 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: after all this time of being a listener. 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