Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick, Nation continues to wait for DP and the
Speaker 1: Boys to be back. As they've stated on social media,
Speaker 1: this is a planned holiday. Obviously, not having the Final
Speaker 1: four makes it makes it even easier to take some
Speaker 1: time off and me and Chris will be with you
Speaker 1: for the entirety of the day. Charlie cash Leak from
Speaker 1: the NFL Network, former general manager of the Skins, we'll
Speaker 1: join us in about thirty minutes. We'll get his take
Speaker 1: on some of the rumors and smoke streams of what
Speaker 1: could happen and what already has happened in what is
Speaker 1: not only a wild but probably the most publicized NFL
Speaker 1: offseason anyone can remember. That's because we don't have the NBA,
Speaker 1: we don't have any sports, live sports being played, and
Speaker 1: there continue to be ideas about what could lead us
Speaker 1: to get in the NBA back. Obviously, Chris, Yesterday's ruling
Speaker 1: in Toronto means there'll be no baseball in Toronto because
Speaker 1: Baseball's players Association and the owners came together with an
Speaker 1: agreement that they're not going to play any games in
Speaker 1: front of empty stadiums. It's not until all the travel
Speaker 1: bands are lifted, and not until people are allowed to
Speaker 1: gather again will they play games. Basketball has made no
Speaker 1: such agreement, but the likelihood is they have to find
Speaker 1: some way to get back on the floor, but possibly
Speaker 1: do it without fans in the stands. That that is
Speaker 1: it in your mind? Is it likely to start with
Speaker 1: no one in the stands? Yes, And I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what from talking to just different people around the NBA
Speaker 1: at every level, they are going to do everything they
Speaker 1: can to finish out this NBA season. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's the money they don't mainly it's the money. They
Speaker 1: don't want to lose all of that revenue. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get as much with no fans in
Speaker 1: the stands. However, of course that's when the TV deals will.
Speaker 1: You know, they need to play some more regular season
Speaker 1: games to get all of their TV money taken care of.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna try to do everything they can. If
Speaker 1: that means pushing games in the September, so be it.
Speaker 1: If that means playing games without fans in the stands,
Speaker 1: so be it. They just want to try to finish
Speaker 1: up this season. Yeah, I mean, like, look, is it
Speaker 1: about the money? Sure, I think it's interesting that Lebron
Speaker 1: is the guy who's anti playing in front of a
Speaker 1: front of an empty house when you know how how
Speaker 1: big is their championship window. If you're the Lakers, man,
Speaker 1: we want to get this thing. The Clippers will have
Speaker 1: another year of those two playing together and be healthier.
Speaker 1: The Warriors should be back next year. I think the
Speaker 1: Nets will be legit contenders once they're healthy. But like
Speaker 1: the West, the Warriors will be back and the Clippers
Speaker 1: should be better. And and then even the teams that
Speaker 1: won't be quite quite as good as the Lakers and
Speaker 1: the Clippers will be better. Yes, and we'll happen. We'll
Speaker 1: have an off season to adjust, right, I'll have an
Speaker 1: off season to adjust. And by the way, Anthony Davis,
Speaker 1: when this thing is over, is a free agent. Doesn't
Speaker 1: mean he'll leave, but is a free agent, which makes
Speaker 1: which makes the Lakers off season interesting. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no chance he'll leave, but you're right, it just
Speaker 1: isn't It's you know, I guess most people say you
Speaker 1: never say never. But okay, so our guy Jay Williams,
Speaker 1: who I do consider a friend, but look when I
Speaker 1: say things that make no sense, my friends call me
Speaker 1: out on it as well. He went on another radio
Speaker 1: show and was like, all right, here's the idea. Right,
Speaker 1: we get two of those cruise ships and we check
Speaker 1: everybody for coronavirus before they get on. You can bring
Speaker 1: your family on, just the players and their families and
Speaker 1: they play on cruise ships. What do you think? And
Speaker 1: my first thought is, Jda ever turn on the did
Speaker 1: you turn on the news for the three weeks prior
Speaker 1: to the two weeks of quarantine? Because during those three
Speaker 1: weeks prior you had cruise ship after cruise ship after
Speaker 1: cruise ship getting quarantine. Dudes couldn't get off right. It
Speaker 1: was it was Hotel California. You could check out any
Speaker 1: time you want, but you can never leave. Bro. I love,
Speaker 1: I love I love that there's there's ideas out there
Speaker 1: that's just that that's a no. We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: hard pass that one and move on well and and
Speaker 1: and like you, I love. Jay obviously worked when he
Speaker 1: met the old network um, but he also thought it
Speaker 1: was such a great idea. That was the thing, Like
Speaker 1: you said no, And he went on the radio with
Speaker 1: it's like one thing to say it to a producer
Speaker 1: and producer like that's a good idea of like I
Speaker 1: don't know if we I don't know if we want
Speaker 1: to go with that one on air, like maybe maybe
Speaker 1: keep that one he has I have cured cancer. But
Speaker 1: with you guys, listen, yes, listen, listen. You guys are
Speaker 1: all smart people. Let me get you. I've really thought
Speaker 1: this thing out, you know, and you know, forget about
Speaker 1: the he's mentioning cruise ships at this time. Yes, and
Speaker 1: they've had they've had they've had basketball games on aircraft
Speaker 1: carriers to limited success in some really remember the condensation,
Speaker 1: Yes they had problem. Yes they actually can't. They actually
Speaker 1: canceled a game because of condensation. And you know, I
Speaker 1: remember one year the numbers were terrible because because there
Speaker 1: were shadows and sunlight and guys couldn't see. So in
Speaker 1: addition to the practicality of we're not deciding an NBA
Speaker 1: championship but a cruise ship, there's just cruise ship is
Speaker 1: a bad word right now, We're not using cruise ship.
Speaker 1: And it's like your boy Rob Parker, you co host
Speaker 1: The Odd Couple with he went on the Golden Girls
Speaker 1: cruise and we're just happy that they got to they
Speaker 1: got to dock when he came back. Yes, yes, indeed,
Speaker 1: I mean he he really got back just in time.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, because a week later and who knows
Speaker 1: what would have happened. Uh, he might have been he
Speaker 1: might have been stuck on that for a little while longer.
Speaker 1: But um, and my thing also when when Jay mentioned that,
Speaker 1: the thought was, well, if you can go on a
Speaker 1: cruise ship, theoretically, why can't they just be isolated in Vegas?
Speaker 1: I think isolated in the Midwest that have you know,
Speaker 1: some of these other ideas. I think that's have been
Speaker 1: thrown out. I think that's more I've been told that's
Speaker 1: more logical. I mean, I don't know if it actually happens,
Speaker 1: but that's more likely to work. I would. Look, my
Speaker 1: guess is I think my hope is that a lot
Speaker 1: of this is just we're not necessarily scare tactics, but
Speaker 1: we want to be extra extra, extra cautious. You know,
Speaker 1: let's let's not turn this into it Italy. Let's not
Speaker 1: have that type of you know, we've already had this
Speaker 1: type of damage to our economy. But if we have
Speaker 1: a second wave of it, or if it gets really bad,
Speaker 1: it's only gonna it's only gonna set us back for
Speaker 1: let's just handle this this first time. But I do
Speaker 1: wonder if you know, if in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: if we get to May, we're like, all right, we're
Speaker 1: good now, let's let's get after it. Won the warm
Speaker 1: weather too. It looks like they're making some advancements in
Speaker 1: terms of medicine that they think might be able to
Speaker 1: help people with. And three, you know, we have a
Speaker 1: bit of a different culture and we have a different
Speaker 1: level now of investments. You know, you got Steebamber giving
Speaker 1: twenty five million, ten million too, right, So I mean,
Speaker 1: like other countries haven't had that benefit of people throwing
Speaker 1: money at the research to speed this process up. So
Speaker 1: do you think you sound like you you're pretty optimistic. Yes, um,
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about May, so you think we
Speaker 1: could be seeing NBA ball in June. In June, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it'll take a month to get it going.
Speaker 1: And then the question is what do you do? I mean,
Speaker 1: I would you know, what do you do with the
Speaker 1: non playoff teams? I mean the Warriors. Steve Kirk came
Speaker 1: out and said, we kind of feel like our season's over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So do you only do you only do the playoff teams?
Speaker 1: Do you expand the playoffs by two teams? Like? What
Speaker 1: do you do there? Do you have three season games?
Speaker 1: I talked to a coach from a non playoff team
Speaker 1: the other day, and um, he was saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: It feels like an off season to them, like their
Speaker 1: season is over. And I get it. However, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: You know this, Doug, these guys are gonna be off.
Speaker 1: I don't know that all of them have the Andrew
Speaker 1: Thomas hook up, you know where, They're going to two
Speaker 1: gyms and working out, So they're gonna have been off
Speaker 1: what sixty days. Obviously they're not going to be in
Speaker 1: basketball shape, which if you throw them out there too
Speaker 1: early number one. And the worst thing is that the
Speaker 1: chances of injury increase, which if a guy got hurt
Speaker 1: and had to sit out some or all of next season,
Speaker 1: now you're potentially messing up two seasons. But also, you
Speaker 1: don't want to start your playoffs your most important games
Speaker 1: with the quality of play being subpar and teams just
Speaker 1: not being anywhere near their best. So I was feeling initially,
Speaker 1: dug when they first postponed the season a month or
Speaker 1: so ago, whatever it was, I initially felt like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they should just start the playoffs. You know, we've played
Speaker 1: sixty five games roughly each team, we know who the
Speaker 1: top eight seeds are. Just go to the playoffs. But
Speaker 1: now I think you're gonna need at least I think
Speaker 1: I'm being overly generous at least the week of some
Speaker 1: type of training camp to get conditioned. Seven training camp,
Speaker 1: and then you need you need a couple of probably
Speaker 1: five to eight regular season games, I think. And also
Speaker 1: because the TV a lot of these regional deals, they
Speaker 1: need to play at least seventeen games. Right. Well, that's
Speaker 1: that's the this is this is a great it's a
Speaker 1: great point you bring up, and it's one of those
Speaker 1: things that this is the first moment I feel vindicated,
Speaker 1: or maybe I feel not vindicated, but not heard on
Speaker 1: my normal radio show, Doug Gotlie Chris brusstart in for
Speaker 1: Dan Dan Danet's here in the Dan Patrick Show. Um.
Speaker 1: I've said this for a while. The people who think, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you just shortened season, and you know, the
Speaker 1: better basketball and music, you start to understand all of
Speaker 1: the different. Okay, you have the arena has to have
Speaker 1: a certain number of nights. Has forty one nights, right,
Speaker 1: they have to have forty one knights plus preseason. And
Speaker 1: the arena of the arena, you of the arena parking,
Speaker 1: You have all the people that work in the arena. Right.
Speaker 1: Then you have these regional networks that are intertwined, many
Speaker 1: of them with the teams or they've paid a ton
Speaker 1: of money to these teams to broadcast it. They need
Speaker 1: the volume of games. If those go away, who's gonna
Speaker 1: Who's gonna Who's gonna compensate all these people. Then you
Speaker 1: have the entertainment districts which are built around these arenas,
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna take away dates, how are you gonna, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, states have created some tax exempt you know
Speaker 1: it's tax exempt stuff so that you know, teams would
Speaker 1: stay downtown, so that those restaurants and bars and those
Speaker 1: districts would still be fieled. Like everybody benefits from there
Speaker 1: being eighty two regular season games, and we can't. And
Speaker 1: now I feel like there's no chance that even though
Speaker 1: people believe the season next year will have to be
Speaker 1: pushed back. I think that's accurate. The interaccurate parts. You
Speaker 1: think they're gonna cut games after we go through a
Speaker 1: year where the economy almost dies, No chance, I would.
Speaker 1: They're definitely going to eighty two games next year. It's
Speaker 1: just a question of how do they get them in.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. And let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, how do you feel about And I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about next season because that obviously pretty much have
Speaker 1: to be pushed back, but just in oh, in general,
Speaker 1: as a regular thing, how do you feel about saying,
Speaker 1: starting to NBA season on Christmas Day and then playing
Speaker 1: into August, just as a as a if that were
Speaker 1: the new schedule for the NFL or the NBA in
Speaker 1: the future, how would you feel about that? I would
Speaker 1: actually say, if you're going to play the NBA that way,
Speaker 1: I would start it when you start it. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't actually have a problem. I would. I would
Speaker 1: prefer it spread out this. I would, yeah, spread them out.
Speaker 1: Give him yeah, maybe not just no back to backs,
Speaker 1: give him a much more substantial like a second break
Speaker 1: as well. You know, when when you play over season
Speaker 1: and go from October seventeens or whatever it is and
Speaker 1: still play into August. Yeah, I mean like, look, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you play in August, I don't know
Speaker 1: what what you do if you go to go October.
Speaker 1: I just I just think this, Uh, here's the big
Speaker 1: question which I don't have the answer for. And maybe
Speaker 1: Michael Mulville, who works for Fox, knows ratings. He can
Speaker 1: give you a better sense of it. Traditionally, you want
Speaker 1: to stay away from July and August because everybody's traveling
Speaker 1: right right, and people don't watch TV. Now that you
Speaker 1: don't watch TV, people don't watch traditional TV nearly as much.
Speaker 1: Can you make up for the lack of over the
Speaker 1: air ratings based viewership with the phone, with the you know,
Speaker 1: with the device he kind of in your hand. I
Speaker 1: don't know. But there's a reason that most major sporting
Speaker 1: events don't occur in the summer, right with the exception
Speaker 1: obviously is some golf stuff, and it's it's it's because
Speaker 1: of that. Now. If that is a moot point now
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and beyond, because people watch what they
Speaker 1: want to watch whenever they want to watch it, regardless
Speaker 1: of where they are, then I'm all for hoop in
Speaker 1: the summer. I've often thought college basketball should start second semester,
Speaker 1: especially on a college campus, there's just not the bandwidth
Speaker 1: or really the financial resources for people to do both
Speaker 1: at once. And then you know, you run the NCAA
Speaker 1: tournament into May, and if you push back the NBA,
Speaker 1: that kind of all works together a little bit better.
Speaker 1: It does work together if you push back the NBA.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like it if you didn't. If the NBA
Speaker 1: stayed on its current schedule, I don't think it'd be
Speaker 1: good because you'd be competing with the playoffs. And you know,
Speaker 1: I covered the NBA, you know, as a beat writer
Speaker 1: for many years, and during March Madness the NBA, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just not as you know, it's only a few weeks,
Speaker 1: but we forget about the NBA for a little while,
Speaker 1: you know, just for a brief moment in time. So
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want that happening during the NBA playoffs. But
Speaker 1: that's the thing. I saw Mark Cuban on the Herd
Speaker 1: earlier this week, or maybe it was last week, but
Speaker 1: he was talking about how, just as you said, traditionally,
Speaker 1: you definitely don't want to be playing games in the
Speaker 1: summer months because the ratings go way down. But now
Speaker 1: with the smartphones, everybody watching on their phone. It's a
Speaker 1: little different. And I think that it depends on like
Speaker 1: if you had playoff games in you lie, in August
Speaker 1: and the later we got into the you know, the playoffs,
Speaker 1: it'd be fewer games, so it would kind of be
Speaker 1: you know, if you played the early rounds in July,
Speaker 1: I do think it'd be a problem because people are
Speaker 1: just gonna be outside, they're gonna be on vacation. They're
Speaker 1: not going to want to watch a game every single
Speaker 1: night or multiple games. But if it's you know, a
Speaker 1: game every three days or a game every you know,
Speaker 1: big games on the weekends, I think people you know,
Speaker 1: maybe into that because you know, sometimes in the summer
Speaker 1: you're looking for a game to watch, and even if
Speaker 1: you're on vacation or something, you know, if you're with
Speaker 1: some other guys, you know, you may gather around and
Speaker 1: watch the NBA Finals Game three or something like that.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. I mean, you definitely want to find
Speaker 1: out get all the math and science you can on
Speaker 1: the ratings in the summer because you definitely don't want
Speaker 1: to you know, if they're not going to they're going
Speaker 1: to be bad in the summer. You want to stay
Speaker 1: away from it now, but it's interesting now full disclosure,
Speaker 1: The ratings weren't great in the playoffs past couple of
Speaker 1: years up until it was the ones that mattered, and
Speaker 1: then this year will be They'll probably use this year
Speaker 1: as a test case. On the other hand, this a
Speaker 1: good chance for him, you know, to view it as
Speaker 1: a test case right now. The only only issue is
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a weird test case because I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I have no scientific knowledge statistical
Speaker 1: knowledge to prove this, but I would guess there'll be
Speaker 1: very few family vacations, right like, Look, will people go
Speaker 1: on vacations, yes, will they bring their kids? No? You're like, look,
Speaker 1: I just the moms of the world, be like, look,
Speaker 1: I was just a homeschool teacher for three kids for
Speaker 1: the last three months. You think I want to take
Speaker 1: them to Europe? No? No, you know, and grandma and
Speaker 1: grandpa were Grandma and Grandpa that were isolated, didn't have
Speaker 1: to come down at all for the last three months
Speaker 1: because we were worried about their health. You got to
Speaker 1: watch the kids. You know, we're going to crow Asha
Speaker 1: bye bye. Well, we'll we'll see what Chris Bruson I'm
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Speaker 1: Did you see k D's gonna lead a field of
Speaker 1: sixteen NBA two K twenty tournament? Yes? Now do you
Speaker 1: play NBA two K? I do I do? What's your son?
Speaker 1: I imagine? Yes, with my son and then with some
Speaker 1: of my son's friends. That's that's the best part, right
Speaker 1: because now you can like we I was. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I was a gamer growing up, like I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I never had the handheld thing. But you know when
Speaker 1: you play basketball tournaments, you used to when you had
Speaker 1: Sega or Nintendo or whatever. Uh, you'd you'd take somebody
Speaker 1: would take away you when you go to Vegas and
Speaker 1: Santa Barbara and you pop it in in the hotel
Speaker 1: room and you play video games all day. So that
Speaker 1: I mean, I've played Madden since it was first John
Speaker 1: Madden Football or since it was you know, uh back
Speaker 1: when it was Lakers versus Celtics in the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 1: So I still really really enjoy it. Um, I can't
Speaker 1: say that we've played We've had two K forever, but
Speaker 1: we haven't played it a ton. So when this thing
Speaker 1: first went down, Um, he started playing things on Xbox Live.
Speaker 1: And we have a couple of families that we're friends
Speaker 1: with and all the all the boys know that I
Speaker 1: like to play Madden and two K. So I'll play
Speaker 1: against his friends and beat his friends and we'll talk trash.
Speaker 1: It's pretty fun. No, that's that's great. And you can
Speaker 1: play with two K. Can you can play like people
Speaker 1: in different house? Yes, I'm yeah, that's great. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah, this is this is That's one of
Speaker 1: the great things, um, about technology today is that you know,
Speaker 1: for your son, he can still play with his friends
Speaker 1: and and all that stuff. I'm not a gamer. I'm
Speaker 1: even a little older than you. I was, and you
Speaker 1: know they had arcades obviously when I was coming up
Speaker 1: and all that. But I'm telling you, Doug, the last
Speaker 1: video game I was into was in television. Remember that
Speaker 1: it was that long ago in college and there's this
Speaker 1: game called Pong. You should try it, Doug, that's what
Speaker 1: you tell me. That was like the first video game
Speaker 1: I actually remember that. But um no, so I'm not.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even in the Madden I'm certainly know nothing
Speaker 1: about NBA two K. Will it be interesting? No, watching
Speaker 1: other people playing video games is not injured, right, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I've watched a little bit, not
Speaker 1: a lot, but a little and it just bores me
Speaker 1: to tears. Yes, look, and there'll be people are like
Speaker 1: the godly bischade. You guys just don't understand esports, Like no,
Speaker 1: I understand it really well, it's not is it the
Speaker 1: worst thing in the world, Like, no, it's not. I
Speaker 1: just please don't tell me what I enjoy watching. I
Speaker 1: love basketball. I don't like James Harden dribble around at
Speaker 1: the top of the key before he goes one on one.
Speaker 1: But at least it's real people playing as opposed to
Speaker 1: a computer simulation. You know, I mean, it's just so
Speaker 1: arbitrary and you and I'm not saying there's not skill
Speaker 1: to it, but let's not let's not call it a sport.
Speaker 1: Let's though they have teams. I know, the NBA, I
Speaker 1: think at least sixteen of the thirty teams half eighteen. Yes,
Speaker 1: you have five video you know, five man teams and
Speaker 1: they play they get paid. I mean that's nice, it's
Speaker 1: a it's created jobs for people. But you can make
Speaker 1: a six figure salary now playing these video games. Yes,
Speaker 1: that that's that's that's nuts. That's nuts. But the number
Speaker 1: of people that play video games as opposed to the
Speaker 1: ones making a six figure salary at him. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, it's not a great career, right, career bad.
Speaker 1: I'll have a playan B. Yes, definitely have a plan B. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: my late father he used to think he was the
Speaker 1: world's greatest Miss pac Man player. We you know, he
Speaker 1: was a coach. Oh, he used to love he knew
Speaker 1: all the path he said, there's patterns to it. He
Speaker 1: understands patterns to it. It's patterns to it. And he
Speaker 1: played those that we go on the road. He put
Speaker 1: a bunch of quarters up and he would go and
Speaker 1: he played Miss pac Man for hours and hours. But
Speaker 1: we've we've also we've kind of watered that thing down, right, like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and tell you video games
Speaker 1: were better when we were kids. They're not. But but
Speaker 1: when back when there used to be arcades, you'd only
Speaker 1: get one game in one quarter and then you'd have
Speaker 1: to wait right like, and look, we've done this with
Speaker 1: pick up basketball. You better be good. We've done this
Speaker 1: with pickup basketball right where you can't I don't know,
Speaker 1: have you ever been knew gym? Well, you can't win
Speaker 1: more than three in a row, three in a row?
Speaker 1: You gotta switch. Like why I want to run the
Speaker 1: court all day. We me and my guys came down
Speaker 1: here to run the court all day. We want to
Speaker 1: run the court all day like none. That's something ways
Speaker 1: the same thing in in video games now because you're
Speaker 1: not putting the quarter in. You know, you paid fifty
Speaker 1: bucks for a game you can play forever. You lose,
Speaker 1: you just start over, start again. Yeah, I agree, And
Speaker 1: I and I wonder this though, because I know I
Speaker 1: know enough to know that they rate the players right right,
Speaker 1: So so the Lebron James on NBA two K is
Speaker 1: going to be much better than uh who who I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go too far as Chris Middleton. Okay, sure,
Speaker 1: all right? So if if if I say, I'm not
Speaker 1: quite as good as you in NBA two K, but
Speaker 1: I got Michael Jordan on. I mean, I have Lebron
Speaker 1: James on my team, and you have Chris Middleton had
Speaker 1: a huge yeah, ad vantish for me. Of course, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things, right, Great players have bad days.
Speaker 1: Bad players have great even on the video game. No,
Speaker 1: that's the point, right, Like in the video game, you're
Speaker 1: gonna kind of play, You're gonna play to your numbers
Speaker 1: every game. He's great, right, I don't know every game.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'll tell you the hardest thing
Speaker 1: in two K shooting free throws. I just as a
Speaker 1: guy who's a bad free throw shooter, like, but you
Speaker 1: have like ninety percent free throw shooters, Like, man, this
Speaker 1: is really hard to make free throws. So there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a skill or trick to that. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like I think it's a fun way to
Speaker 1: get guys. The best part about those deals is when
Speaker 1: you can hear the players talking and they're telling stories
Speaker 1: and they're talking trash, like even now when they're playing
Speaker 1: Call of Duty, and and you can, guys, you can
Speaker 1: watch them play, watch them play Call of duty is
Speaker 1: not interesting. Listening to them talk and tell stories and
Speaker 1: talk trash to each other. That's the interesting part, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Now who else is in this? Uh? What other NBA
Speaker 1: players are in the turn? Trey Young, Hassan white Side,
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, Devin Booker, Andre Drummond, Zach Lavine Montrez, Harold Demontis,
Speaker 1: Sabonis DeAndre and DeMarcus Cousins, Michael Porter, Ruey Hachimura, Patrick Beverley,
Speaker 1: Harrison Barnes, and Derek Jones. Wow, so so k D
Speaker 1: and Cousins are like the oldest about the oldest guys
Speaker 1: in it. So it's clearly a young man's game. How's
Speaker 1: Pat pat BEVs? V's up there a little bit? You
Speaker 1: could put him in that group. See, but I think
Speaker 1: this is and I again, I don't know the really
Speaker 1: young guys, A lot of them. Trey Young might not
Speaker 1: be this way. I don't know how much of a
Speaker 1: gamer he is, but a lot of the younger guys
Speaker 1: are so much more into their phones than they are
Speaker 1: into playing video games. Right where this is almost a
Speaker 1: I would guess the guys that went to guys that way.
Speaker 1: If you went to prep school, like right, if you
Speaker 1: went to Finley. If you went a way to prep
Speaker 1: school and then you went and you played a year
Speaker 1: in college, those are the guys I would say are
Speaker 1: most likely to have a lot of video game experience.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of downtime when you're prep school, a
Speaker 1: lot of downtime when you're playing au ball. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of down you're saying, So are you saying for
Speaker 1: younger guys, I'm they gonna they're more into their phones
Speaker 1: to the video game. Yes, yes, yes, interesting like my generation,
Speaker 1: Like if you go to the guys in the forties,
Speaker 1: we're a lot we played a lot more video games
Speaker 1: than most of these guys did, like the huh yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and a lot of teams, a lot of
Speaker 1: players when they travel in the NBA, and it still
Speaker 1: probably happens, but they would have video games set up
Speaker 1: in their rooms sure, like when they arrived so they
Speaker 1: could play. And that was you know, years ago. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're doing that now, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: And then there's the there's the guys that once you
Speaker 1: have a family, that thing kind of ends right until
Speaker 1: your kids get older. So um, I would say KD
Speaker 1: play being a gamer would be the least surprising thing
Speaker 1: of all times. He likes to talk trash. He seems
Speaker 1: to not he seems like a small circle, right, and
Speaker 1: he really loves hoop and he can't hoop at all
Speaker 1: hours of the day, and that that would that would
Speaker 1: be my guess, all right, that that's going to occur virtually.
Speaker 1: But the most the biggest event that's going to be
Speaker 1: virtual is the NFL Draft. Charlie Cash he joined the course.
Speaker 1: He's the former GM and the Nashville Pablague works for
Speaker 1: the NFL network. Kind enough to spend some time with
Speaker 1: a long with christmus Ardam Doug Gotlieb. This is the
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Charlie, how different
Speaker 1: is preparing for this draft for GMS today as opposed
Speaker 1: to any other year? Well, I wrote an article this
Speaker 1: week in the NFL dot Com and outlined it. So
Speaker 1: if you haven't read that, take a look at it.
Speaker 1: But here here's here's some thoughts here. The first thing
Speaker 1: is I broke into the league when it was more
Speaker 1: the exception to the rule that you had a physical
Speaker 1: on a player. We didn't have a combine, we didn't
Speaker 1: have pro days in the spring to work players out.
Speaker 1: We didn't have mass testing, psychology of psychological testing, so
Speaker 1: we went into this thing somewhat blind. Okay, so how
Speaker 1: do you work blind? Well, first of all, I'm taking
Speaker 1: it from where I came in and say, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of advantages. They've already had a combine. They have
Speaker 1: a lot of interviews on players, they have a tremendous
Speaker 1: number of physicals already done. They have a film library.
Speaker 1: We didn't have a film library and try to call
Speaker 1: a college and hope they sent you some film. They
Speaker 1: have almost every game played by every school of the
Speaker 1: players they want to look at, so they have a
Speaker 1: massive amount of information. But it comes back to this,
Speaker 1: your area scouts. Those are the guys who've lived in
Speaker 1: the area follow these players to the whole career. They
Speaker 1: should know them inside out. They should have contacts to
Speaker 1: get any information that they need that they've already gotten
Speaker 1: okay on them. So when you're sitting there, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go back to that guy and he's going to
Speaker 1: be the guy who's going to know him the best.
Speaker 1: Then I'm going to have had a scout who's going
Speaker 1: and what we do a cross check in the fall,
Speaker 1: and he's seen him, So now I've got two guys
Speaker 1: in the room, maybe many as four guys in the room,
Speaker 1: because you could have a national guy, then I'll go
Speaker 1: look at him, and that's going to be the basis
Speaker 1: of what you're going to have to make your decisions
Speaker 1: on now. On physicals, I never went against the doctors. Okay,
Speaker 1: you never went against the doctors or the trainers. However,
Speaker 1: Curtis Martin. Curtis Martin was off our draft board. Patriots
Speaker 1: took him. I had a long career. Drew Brees rejected
Speaker 1: by the Dolphins. Miami took him. Excuse me, New Orleans
Speaker 1: took him. Guys in the Hall of Fame. So what
Speaker 1: I'm saying there is two doctors can look at the
Speaker 1: same player and have two totally different opinions on them.
Speaker 1: So on medicals and again, I never went against anybody.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of hit and miss now on
Speaker 1: those decisions. So I think it'll be the area scouts.
Speaker 1: You gotta have good area scouts and spend your extra
Speaker 1: time to an extra film on these guys, and I
Speaker 1: think that's how you can be successful in this draft.
Speaker 1: A couple of other quick things. Teams with that extra
Speaker 1: picks will have an advantage. You may take less risks
Speaker 1: on guys say that are changing positions. In other word,
Speaker 1: you're taking the safety and now trying to make them
Speaker 1: a corner. Have you never seen the guy backpedal fits
Speaker 1: and system or a crucial If I'm looking at a
Speaker 1: press corner and we playoff coverage, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that guy can do that, may have to pass on them.
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit of a gamble. So those
Speaker 1: are some of the things that to me be going
Speaker 1: through my mind if I was running a team. Charlie,
Speaker 1: this is interesting because you mentioned years ago how you know,
Speaker 1: you guys just didn't have as much access to the
Speaker 1: players you were looking to draft as they do now
Speaker 1: in technology and all that. How much better is the
Speaker 1: success rate now for you know, teams drafting players then
Speaker 1: it was back in your day when you were really
Speaker 1: in the heat of it, when you didn't have you,
Speaker 1: you know, as much technology and on that. I don't
Speaker 1: have the answer to that question, but it's better just
Speaker 1: by doing it, Okay. I know we have more information
Speaker 1: on players, and again it's relevant, so does everybody else,
Speaker 1: So maybe there is no difference on the percentage. That's
Speaker 1: what I want. I mean, it's still a hitting miss
Speaker 1: aspect to it, no question. I did a ten year
Speaker 1: study on the draft. Only thirty percent of players drafted
Speaker 1: over a ten year period end up being a starter
Speaker 1: after four years. Now why is that important? Because at
Speaker 1: the end of four years you basically have free agency,
Speaker 1: so you have to make a decision one way or
Speaker 1: another on the player. If he's not a starter, probably
Speaker 1: gonna move on from him at that point in time.
Speaker 1: So but and it wasn't always that thirty percent was
Speaker 1: It didn't make any difference which team there with. So
Speaker 1: one of those guy who started with one team got cut.
Speaker 1: But if he was a starter with another team at
Speaker 1: the end of four years, to me, he was a
Speaker 1: legitimate player. And so seventy percent of the guys you draft,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be successful. Charlie, what's your feelings on two?
Speaker 1: He's been fully cleared, but teams aren't able to get
Speaker 1: out and evaluate him. He was the number one quarterback
Speaker 1: prospect heading in into the season. Now it appears he's
Speaker 1: at best the number two quarterback prospect. Your your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the idea of drafting to it to buy Looga
Speaker 1: like him? I think he's a top five pick in
Speaker 1: any raft. Uh, I have Burrow ahead of him. Only
Speaker 1: concern I have about him and is we know the
Speaker 1: medical Okay, that's an obvious concern. Right, That's a hit
Speaker 1: and miss thing. So yeah, it's a guess. Um bodybuild.
Speaker 1: I've never seen him live. I mean, I've watched tape
Speaker 1: of him. I've talked to people to see him, and
Speaker 1: they talk to me. He's not a big guy in
Speaker 1: the lower bodies. He's kind of a smaller body guy
Speaker 1: that bothers me on taking hits. Now, that's that's just
Speaker 1: an educated guess. Okay, at this point in time, I mean,
Speaker 1: your guess is as good as mine in trying to
Speaker 1: take him. I probably would take him and h but
Speaker 1: obviously i'd have access to more information than I have
Speaker 1: right now. All right, how about how about this one?
Speaker 1: There's Miami apparently really values Joe Burrow and wants him
Speaker 1: to be there quarterback. They have three first round picks
Speaker 1: Cincinnati obviously, I mean, look, the likelihood is they're not
Speaker 1: going to make a trade. But if you were in
Speaker 1: sanse if you were Cincinnati's GM, and you said, what
Speaker 1: is that? What is what is the value and what
Speaker 1: is slightly overpaying if you're Miami, what is slightly overpaying
Speaker 1: to move up to take an Ohio born kid away
Speaker 1: from the Cincinnati benis if you're the Bengals, what's what's
Speaker 1: the ask? There's no price. I'm taking Burrow period. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like him that much better than Tuah. Yes, because
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. Okay, um, now again, Burrow, he's
Speaker 1: got some warts to now, Okay, he hasn't done this
Speaker 1: for a number of years. Ta has actually performed better
Speaker 1: than Burrow. Considering he goes into win's a national championship
Speaker 1: coming off the bench. Is what a freshman, right, So
Speaker 1: he's got a little more history here, that's important. Burrow
Speaker 1: doesn't have quite that much history. So there's a there's
Speaker 1: a there's an element of risk in both of them.
Speaker 1: But I just liked the fact that Burrow the body
Speaker 1: build on them versus TWA. Makes it to me sure enough.
Speaker 1: Now I pulled I'd have to get my notes on
Speaker 1: if I said this, I tell it it's it's somewhere
Speaker 1: in writing on social media. Pulled about twenty seven teams,
Speaker 1: and let's see, it was like twenty three to three
Speaker 1: to one Burrow over Tah and the general consensus was, uh,
Speaker 1: the durability factor okay, and and a little bit more
Speaker 1: consistent as a passer. And but two, it to me
Speaker 1: is a top five pick when I pulled SEC coaches
Speaker 1: who played these guys who was dead even when when
Speaker 1: I took the pole air. Um, but I would I
Speaker 1: would not trade him. You can offer me anything, and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to trade him. How much? Um, Obviously
Speaker 1: Joe Brady, you know, did a great job with Burrow.
Speaker 1: Um one, how big of an issue you know how
Speaker 1: much of the success was due to Joe Brady. And
Speaker 1: does Joe Brady I'm not saying Bridgewater is gonna light
Speaker 1: the league go on fire, but him and him working
Speaker 1: with Brady and Carolina, do you think that'll be a
Speaker 1: great team and that it'll it'll pay big dividends for
Speaker 1: them with that relationship. Okay, let me answer. Let me
Speaker 1: answer a question here and this way. Hey, I don't
Speaker 1: know Joe Brady. I don't know what effect he had
Speaker 1: on Burrow. But Joe Brady didn't call the plays. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I like Bridgewater, But Bridgewater had
Speaker 1: great coaching last year with Sean Payton and Pete Carmichael
Speaker 1: and et cetera. Who was there? So people play well
Speaker 1: for Sean Payton. So I don't know how Joe Brady's
Speaker 1: gonna act in this situation where he's now by himself
Speaker 1: and calling the plays, etc. And that's not a nag
Speaker 1: of I just don't know, But I like Bridgewater. Bridgewater
Speaker 1: is smart, he plays smart, makes good decisions, knows where
Speaker 1: to go with the football. He's a positive. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have a top arm. He was a playoff quarterback in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: would have been a playoff quarterback with New Orleans last
Speaker 1: year if he played the whole season. So I think
Speaker 1: they got a good quarterback in Carolina. I'm happy with that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to be elite, but
Speaker 1: I think he's good. Tom Brady is a great quarterback.
Speaker 1: No one would argue that he's also forty three. Are
Speaker 1: going to play at forty three And since Randy Moss
Speaker 1: left the Patriots, and you can forgive me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: and before, he's always been a guy who's focused on underneath.
Speaker 1: You know, Look, Gronk had one year where he led
Speaker 1: them in catches, but for the most part, it's been Edelman, Welker, Rochet, Caldwell,
Speaker 1: Troy Brown, those type players. That's not really how the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers roster is comprised. They have two good tight ends,
Speaker 1: they have two big time wide receivers, but no real
Speaker 1: underneath guys, and to this point, not a back who's
Speaker 1: tremendous out of the backfield, something that he's really used
Speaker 1: throughout his career. Does Brady's style fit how Bruce Arians
Speaker 1: traditionally likes to play well. What you've described is accurate
Speaker 1: in the big picture. There's no slot there. They haven't
Speaker 1: used the tight ends much. I think that's going to
Speaker 1: change a lot. Brady is more of an inside the
Speaker 1: numbers thrower. That's not necessarily their offense. But I think
Speaker 1: number one that I think that Bruce Arians will not
Speaker 1: will be smart between him and Brady, they'll figure this
Speaker 1: out as to what the best offense is. When I
Speaker 1: watch Brady throw last year, who's he throwing to? Nobody
Speaker 1: except Edelman, Nobody that can beat one on one coverage.
Speaker 1: I saw him throw the ball deep. I think he's
Speaker 1: actually improved as a d thrower. I think that your
Speaker 1: question is legit. They need to get a receiving back.
Speaker 1: Maybe Jones is the receiving back. Maybe he can do that.
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of unknown there. But I
Speaker 1: thought Brady last year, the guy I saw on tape
Speaker 1: could still win a championship. And I think these guys
Speaker 1: will adjust to what Brady can do. Tight ends will
Speaker 1: probably be bigger, more part of the offense, certainly. Charlie,
Speaker 1: great stuff. You're You're safe, You're healthy, You're you're good.
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Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna learn anything from it, I know,
Speaker 1: will you learn some things? You're like, yes, yes, uh,
Speaker 1: just about every every um, every descriptive word you could use.
Speaker 1: It is right. It makes you, It makes you mad,
Speaker 1: it makes you sad, it makes you laugh. It it
Speaker 1: drops your jaw that this actually, this subculture actually exists
Speaker 1: because it's true. It is it. It is some level
Speaker 1: of truth. Yes, I mean it's it's yeah, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're waiting to find out who's the good guy,
Speaker 1: And I couldn't really come up with the good guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, the best the person with the moral compass
Speaker 1: in the show on some level appears to be a
Speaker 1: guy who became a campaign director for Joe Joe Exotic
Speaker 1: and he was previously a manager at Walmart selling ammunition
Speaker 1: to Joe Exotic. That's the guy with the best moral
Speaker 1: compass of anybody in the show. But like, look to me,
Speaker 1: it's at least enjoyable whereas like ESPN doing the best
Speaker 1: college basketball basketball player of all time in the tournament
Speaker 1: and including women with men is thank you, that's like
Speaker 1: the least like why are you making this the least
Speaker 1: enjoyable exercise of what could be enjoyable? Right? It was
Speaker 1: a great idea, yes, but they ruined it. I mean,
Speaker 1: first of all, like you said, they should have had
Speaker 1: a separate bracket for women, yes, and a separate bracket
Speaker 1: for men. Enough of the political correctness for a minute, please,
Speaker 1: just there's nothing wrong with that they play in separate leagues.
Speaker 1: Well we don't. We didn't. We don't include the most
Speaker 1: dominant NAIA players Division two players Division three. Why because
Speaker 1: it's a different level of the sport. This is just
Speaker 1: a different We don't include your high school numbers. Like,
Speaker 1: let's not just don't try. It's a difference. They play
Speaker 1: with a different sized basketball against a different gender of people.
Speaker 1: And and like, look, I get it, Brandon Stewart's great,
Speaker 1: but she was at Yukon where they're stacked. You know
Speaker 1: they got, they got they run six seven deep as
Speaker 1: opposed to like, my point is, if you don't start
Speaker 1: and stop with lu Al Sender and Bill Walton, then
Speaker 1: you're really not. You're not. You actually don't know anything
Speaker 1: about the sport. Didn't Who did shock beat lu Al Cinder? Right?
Speaker 1: Or was it Brianna? I don't know. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: honestly didn't pay attention. I just attention to it. But
Speaker 1: some lu Al you hit it on a hit. Those
Speaker 1: are the two best college players of all time. Yes,
Speaker 1: and Michael Jordan won it, and obviously I think he's
Speaker 1: the goat period, but he was not the greatest college basketbaball. No. ALB.
Speaker 1: Sampson was a better college and more dominant college player
Speaker 1: right in the in the peak of the ACC where
Speaker 1: Carolina was winning a national championship, North Carolina State was
Speaker 1: winning a national championship. Okay, like Duke was even great,
Speaker 1: and they had Mark Allery and other and other other stars. Right,
Speaker 1: we can go through and it was eight teams in
Speaker 1: the ACC. He won the National Player of the Year
Speaker 1: three times in a row, like Wayman, like Wayman Tisdale.
Speaker 1: I don't it didn't make the list first Team All
Speaker 1: American as a freshman at at Oklahoma, but they had
Speaker 1: Trey Young in the turn instead of time. It was
Speaker 1: a joke, man, And I thought, look Jordan beat Magic
Speaker 1: in the Final four. I thought Magic had a better
Speaker 1: college career. He did. He did the one national championship
Speaker 1: in the game that changed college basketball and merely basketball
Speaker 1: forever against Larry Bird. But Jordan and Jordan did hit
Speaker 1: a shot. But that was in his freshman year, which
Speaker 1: he was when he was not a star, you know.
Speaker 1: But I do think I guess it entertained and filled
Speaker 1: some time. I would say I'd be interested to hear
Speaker 1: your take on if you you know, my wife's from Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: I have friends from Florida. There's a lot of Oklahoma
Speaker 1: and Florida in the story, which makes it makes it
Speaker 1: even more entertaining on some level. All Right, the NFL
Speaker 1: is making some massive massive changes. One are we good
Speaker 1: with the draft going forward as is? And wait to
Speaker 1: hear what they're doing to the playoffs. It's official, it's next.
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