WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Charley Casserly (04-01-20)

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Good Morning, Gia, Doug Gotlie, Chris Broussard As

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Patrick, Nation continues to wait for DP and the

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<v Speaker 1>Boys to be back. As they've stated on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a planned holiday. Obviously, not having the Final

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<v Speaker 1>four makes it makes it even easier to take some

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<v Speaker 1>time off and me and Chris will be with you

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<v Speaker 1>for the entirety of the day. Charlie cash Leak from

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Network, former general manager of the Skins, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>join us in about thirty minutes. We'll get his take

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<v Speaker 1>on some of the rumors and smoke streams of what

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<v Speaker 1>could happen and what already has happened in what is

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<v Speaker 1>not only a wild but probably the most publicized NFL

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<v Speaker 1>offseason anyone can remember. That's because we don't have the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have any sports, live sports being played, and

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<v Speaker 1>there continue to be ideas about what could lead us

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<v Speaker 1>to get in the NBA back. Obviously, Chris, Yesterday's ruling

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<v Speaker 1>in Toronto means there'll be no baseball in Toronto because

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball's players Association and the owners came together with an

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<v Speaker 1>agreement that they're not going to play any games in

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<v Speaker 1>front of empty stadiums. It's not until all the travel

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<v Speaker 1>bands are lifted, and not until people are allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>gather again will they play games. Basketball has made no

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<v Speaker 1>such agreement, but the likelihood is they have to find

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<v Speaker 1>some way to get back on the floor, but possibly

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<v Speaker 1>do it without fans in the stands. That that is

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<v Speaker 1>it in your mind? Is it likely to start with

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<v Speaker 1>no one in the stands? Yes, And I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what from talking to just different people around the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>at every level, they are going to do everything they

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<v Speaker 1>can to finish out this NBA season. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's the money they don't mainly it's the money. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to lose all of that revenue. Now, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna get as much with no fans in

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<v Speaker 1>the stands. However, of course that's when the TV deals will.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they need to play some more regular season

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<v Speaker 1>games to get all of their TV money taken care of.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're gonna try to do everything they can. If

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<v Speaker 1>that means pushing games in the September, so be it.

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<v Speaker 1>If that means playing games without fans in the stands,

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<v Speaker 1>so be it. They just want to try to finish

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<v Speaker 1>up this season. Yeah, I mean, like, look, is it

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<v Speaker 1>about the money? Sure, I think it's interesting that Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy who's anti playing in front of a

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<v Speaker 1>front of an empty house when you know how how

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<v Speaker 1>big is their championship window. If you're the Lakers, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to get this thing. The Clippers will have

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<v Speaker 1>another year of those two playing together and be healthier.

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<v Speaker 1>The Warriors should be back next year. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Nets will be legit contenders once they're healthy. But like

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<v Speaker 1>the West, the Warriors will be back and the Clippers

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<v Speaker 1>should be better. And and then even the teams that

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<v Speaker 1>won't be quite quite as good as the Lakers and

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers will be better. Yes, and we'll happen. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have an off season to adjust, right, I'll have an

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<v Speaker 1>off season to adjust. And by the way, Anthony Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>when this thing is over, is a free agent. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean he'll leave, but is a free agent, which makes

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<v Speaker 1>which makes the Lakers off season interesting. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no chance he'll leave, but you're right, it just

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<v Speaker 1>isn't It's you know, I guess most people say you

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<v Speaker 1>never say never. But okay, so our guy Jay Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>who I do consider a friend, but look when I

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<v Speaker 1>say things that make no sense, my friends call me

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<v Speaker 1>out on it as well. He went on another radio

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<v Speaker 1>show and was like, all right, here's the idea. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we get two of those cruise ships and we check

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<v Speaker 1>everybody for coronavirus before they get on. You can bring

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<v Speaker 1>your family on, just the players and their families and

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<v Speaker 1>they play on cruise ships. What do you think? And

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<v Speaker 1>my first thought is, Jda ever turn on the did

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<v Speaker 1>you turn on the news for the three weeks prior

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<v Speaker 1>to the two weeks of quarantine? Because during those three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks prior you had cruise ship after cruise ship after

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<v Speaker 1>cruise ship getting quarantine. Dudes couldn't get off right. It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was Hotel California. You could check out any

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<v Speaker 1>time you want, but you can never leave. Bro. I love,

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love that there's there's ideas out there

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<v Speaker 1>that's just that that's a no. We're gonna we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hard pass that one and move on well and and

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<v Speaker 1>and like you, I love. Jay obviously worked when he

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<v Speaker 1>met the old network um, but he also thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was such a great idea. That was the thing, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said no, And he went on the radio with

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<v Speaker 1>it's like one thing to say it to a producer

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<v Speaker 1>and producer like that's a good idea of like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if we I don't know if we want

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<v Speaker 1>to go with that one on air, like maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>keep that one he has I have cured cancer. But

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<v Speaker 1>with you guys, listen, yes, listen, listen. You guys are

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<v Speaker 1>all smart people. Let me get you. I've really thought

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<v Speaker 1>this thing out, you know, and you know, forget about

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<v Speaker 1>the he's mentioning cruise ships at this time. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've had they've had they've had basketball games on aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>carriers to limited success in some really remember the condensation,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they had problem. Yes they actually can't. They actually

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<v Speaker 1>canceled a game because of condensation. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember one year the numbers were terrible because because there

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<v Speaker 1>were shadows and sunlight and guys couldn't see. So in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to the practicality of we're not deciding an NBA

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<v Speaker 1>championship but a cruise ship, there's just cruise ship is

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<v Speaker 1>a bad word right now, We're not using cruise ship.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like your boy Rob Parker, you co host

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<v Speaker 1>The Odd Couple with he went on the Golden Girls

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<v Speaker 1>cruise and we're just happy that they got to they

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<v Speaker 1>got to dock when he came back. Yes, yes, indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he he really got back just in time.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right, because a week later and who knows

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<v Speaker 1>what would have happened. Uh, he might have been he

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<v Speaker 1>might have been stuck on that for a little while longer.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, and my thing also when when Jay mentioned that,

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<v Speaker 1>the thought was, well, if you can go on a

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<v Speaker 1>cruise ship, theoretically, why can't they just be isolated in Vegas?

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<v Speaker 1>I think isolated in the Midwest that have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these other ideas. I think that's have been

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<v Speaker 1>thrown out. I think that's more I've been told that's

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<v Speaker 1>more logical. I mean, I don't know if it actually happens,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's more likely to work. I would. Look, my

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<v Speaker 1>guess is I think my hope is that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this is just we're not necessarily scare tactics, but

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<v Speaker 1>we want to be extra extra, extra cautious. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's not turn this into it Italy. Let's not

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<v Speaker 1>have that type of you know, we've already had this

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<v Speaker 1>type of damage to our economy. But if we have

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<v Speaker 1>a second wave of it, or if it gets really bad,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only gonna it's only gonna set us back for

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<v Speaker 1>let's just handle this this first time. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if you know, if in a couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>if we get to May, we're like, all right, we're

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<v Speaker 1>good now, let's let's get after it. Won the warm

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<v Speaker 1>weather too. It looks like they're making some advancements in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of medicine that they think might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>help people with. And three, you know, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a different culture and we have a different

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<v Speaker 1>level now of investments. You know, you got Steebamber giving

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five million, ten million too, right, So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like other countries haven't had that benefit of people throwing

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<v Speaker 1>money at the research to speed this process up. So

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<v Speaker 1>do you think you sound like you you're pretty optimistic. Yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're talking about May, so you think we

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<v Speaker 1>could be seeing NBA ball in June. In June, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll take a month to get it going.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the question is what do you do? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would you know, what do you do with the

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<v Speaker 1>non playoff teams? I mean the Warriors. Steve Kirk came

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<v Speaker 1>out and said, we kind of feel like our season's over. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So do you only do you only do the playoff teams?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you expand the playoffs by two teams? Like? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you do there? Do you have three season games?

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to a coach from a non playoff team

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, and um, he was saying the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like an off season to them, like their

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<v Speaker 1>season is over. And I get it. However, here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this, Doug, these guys are gonna be off.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that all of them have the Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas hook up, you know where, They're going to two

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<v Speaker 1>gyms and working out, So they're gonna have been off

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<v Speaker 1>what sixty days. Obviously they're not going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>basketball shape, which if you throw them out there too

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<v Speaker 1>early number one. And the worst thing is that the

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<v Speaker 1>chances of injury increase, which if a guy got hurt

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<v Speaker 1>and had to sit out some or all of next season,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're potentially messing up two seasons. But also, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to start your playoffs your most important games

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<v Speaker 1>with the quality of play being subpar and teams just

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<v Speaker 1>not being anywhere near their best. So I was feeling initially,

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<v Speaker 1>dug when they first postponed the season a month or

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<v Speaker 1>so ago, whatever it was, I initially felt like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they should just start the playoffs. You know, we've played

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five games roughly each team, we know who the

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<v Speaker 1>top eight seeds are. Just go to the playoffs. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I think you're gonna need at least I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being overly generous at least the week of some

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<v Speaker 1>type of training camp to get conditioned. Seven training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you need you need a couple of probably

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<v Speaker 1>five to eight regular season games, I think. And also

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<v Speaker 1>because the TV a lot of these regional deals, they

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<v Speaker 1>need to play at least seventeen games. Right. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the this is this is a great it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great point you bring up, and it's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things that this is the first moment I feel vindicated,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe I feel not vindicated, but not heard on

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<v Speaker 1>my normal radio show, Doug Gotlie Chris brusstart in for

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Dan Danet's here in the Dan Patrick Show. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this for a while. The people who think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you just shortened season, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>better basketball and music, you start to understand all of

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<v Speaker 1>the different. Okay, you have the arena has to have

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<v Speaker 1>a certain number of nights. Has forty one nights, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to have forty one knights plus preseason. And

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<v Speaker 1>the arena of the arena, you of the arena parking,

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<v Speaker 1>You have all the people that work in the arena. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have these regional networks that are intertwined, many

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<v Speaker 1>of them with the teams or they've paid a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of money to these teams to broadcast it. They need

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<v Speaker 1>the volume of games. If those go away, who's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna Who's gonna compensate all these people. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>have the entertainment districts which are built around these arenas,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're gonna take away dates, how are you gonna, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, states have created some tax exempt you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's tax exempt stuff so that you know, teams would

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<v Speaker 1>stay downtown, so that those restaurants and bars and those

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<v Speaker 1>districts would still be fieled. Like everybody benefits from there

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<v Speaker 1>being eighty two regular season games, and we can't. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I feel like there's no chance that even though

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<v Speaker 1>people believe the season next year will have to be

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<v Speaker 1>pushed back. I think that's accurate. The interaccurate parts. You

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<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna cut games after we go through a

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<v Speaker 1>year where the economy almost dies, No chance, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>They're definitely going to eighty two games next year. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a question of how do they get them in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought that up. And let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this, how do you feel about And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about next season because that obviously pretty much have

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<v Speaker 1>to be pushed back, but just in oh, in general,

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<v Speaker 1>as a regular thing, how do you feel about saying,

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<v Speaker 1>starting to NBA season on Christmas Day and then playing

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<v Speaker 1>into August, just as a as a if that were

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<v Speaker 1>the new schedule for the NFL or the NBA in

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<v Speaker 1>the future, how would you feel about that? I would

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<v Speaker 1>actually say, if you're going to play the NBA that way,

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<v Speaker 1>I would start it when you start it. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually have a problem. I would. I would

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<v Speaker 1>prefer it spread out this. I would, yeah, spread them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Give him yeah, maybe not just no back to backs,

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<v Speaker 1>give him a much more substantial like a second break

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<v Speaker 1>as well. You know, when when you play over season

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<v Speaker 1>and go from October seventeens or whatever it is and

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<v Speaker 1>still play into August. Yeah, I mean like, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you play in August, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what what you do if you go to go October.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just think this, Uh, here's the big

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<v Speaker 1>question which I don't have the answer for. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Mulville, who works for Fox, knows ratings. He can

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<v Speaker 1>give you a better sense of it. Traditionally, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to stay away from July and August because everybody's traveling

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<v Speaker 1>right right, and people don't watch TV. Now that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch TV, people don't watch traditional TV nearly as much.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you make up for the lack of over the

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<v Speaker 1>air ratings based viewership with the phone, with the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the device he kind of in your hand. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. But there's a reason that most major sporting

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<v Speaker 1>events don't occur in the summer, right with the exception

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<v Speaker 1>obviously is some golf stuff, and it's it's it's because

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Now. If that is a moot point now

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty and beyond, because people watch what they

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch whenever they want to watch it, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of where they are, then I'm all for hoop in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer. I've often thought college basketball should start second semester,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on a college campus, there's just not the bandwidth

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<v Speaker 1>or really the financial resources for people to do both

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<v Speaker 1>at once. And then you know, you run the NCAA

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<v Speaker 1>tournament into May, and if you push back the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of all works together a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>It does work together if you push back the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't like it if you didn't. If the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>stayed on its current schedule, I don't think it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>good because you'd be competing with the playoffs. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I covered the NBA, you know, as a beat writer

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<v Speaker 1>for many years, and during March Madness the NBA, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not as you know, it's only a few weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>but we forget about the NBA for a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just for a brief moment in time. So

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't want that happening during the NBA playoffs. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. I saw Mark Cuban on the Herd

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this week, or maybe it was last week, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about how, just as you said, traditionally,

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<v Speaker 1>you definitely don't want to be playing games in the

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<v Speaker 1>summer months because the ratings go way down. But now

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<v Speaker 1>with the smartphones, everybody watching on their phone. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>little different. And I think that it depends on like

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<v Speaker 1>if you had playoff games in you lie, in August

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<v Speaker 1>and the later we got into the you know, the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be fewer games, so it would kind of be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you played the early rounds in July,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it'd be a problem because people are

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna be outside, they're gonna be on vacation. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to want to watch a game every single

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<v Speaker 1>night or multiple games. But if it's you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>game every three days or a game every you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big games on the weekends, I think people you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe into that because you know, sometimes in the summer

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for a game to watch, and even if

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<v Speaker 1>you're on vacation or something, you know, if you're with

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<v Speaker 1>some other guys, you know, you may gather around and

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<v Speaker 1>watch the NBA Finals Game three or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting. I mean, you definitely want to find

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<v Speaker 1>out get all the math and science you can on

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<v Speaker 1>the ratings in the summer because you definitely don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, if they're not going to they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be bad in the summer. You want to stay

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<v Speaker 1>away from it now, but it's interesting now full disclosure,

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<v Speaker 1>The ratings weren't great in the playoffs past couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years up until it was the ones that mattered, and

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<v Speaker 1>then this year will be They'll probably use this year

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<v Speaker 1>as a test case. On the other hand, this a

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<v Speaker 1>good chance for him, you know, to view it as

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<v Speaker 1>a test case right now. The only only issue is

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be a weird test case because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, I have no scientific knowledge statistical

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge to prove this, but I would guess there'll be

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<v Speaker 1>very few family vacations, right like, Look, will people go

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<v Speaker 1>on vacations, yes, will they bring their kids? No? You're like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I just the moms of the world, be like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just a homeschool teacher for three kids for

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<v Speaker 1>the last three months. You think I want to take

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<v Speaker 1>them to Europe? No? No, you know, and grandma and

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<v Speaker 1>grandpa were Grandma and Grandpa that were isolated, didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to come down at all for the last three months

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<v Speaker 1>because we were worried about their health. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the kids. You know, we're going to crow Asha

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<v Speaker 1>bye bye. Well, we'll we'll see what Chris Bruson I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Dug Golib. This is the Dan Patrick's Show here on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports Radio. And uh man, this is um speaking

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of of the NBA. There will be a tournament

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<v Speaker 1>involving NBA players. How and where will they play? Find

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<v Speaker 1>out next. Be sure to catch the live edition of

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<v Speaker 1>The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see k D's gonna lead a field of

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen NBA two K twenty tournament? Yes? Now do you

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<v Speaker 1>play NBA two K? I do I do? What's your son?

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine? Yes, with my son and then with some

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<v Speaker 1>of my son's friends. That's that's the best part, right

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<v Speaker 1>because now you can like we I was. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I was a gamer growing up, like I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I never had the handheld thing. But you know when

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<v Speaker 1>you play basketball tournaments, you used to when you had

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<v Speaker 1>Sega or Nintendo or whatever. Uh, you'd you'd take somebody

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<v Speaker 1>would take away you when you go to Vegas and

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Barbara and you pop it in in the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>room and you play video games all day. So that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've played Madden since it was first John

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<v Speaker 1>Madden Football or since it was you know, uh back

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<v Speaker 1>when it was Lakers versus Celtics in the NBA playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>So I still really really enjoy it. Um, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>say that we've played We've had two K forever, but

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't played it a ton. So when this thing

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<v Speaker 1>first went down, Um, he started playing things on Xbox Live.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have a couple of families that we're friends

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<v Speaker 1>with and all the all the boys know that I

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<v Speaker 1>like to play Madden and two K. So I'll play

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<v Speaker 1>against his friends and beat his friends and we'll talk trash.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty fun. No, that's that's great. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>play with two K. Can you can play like people

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<v Speaker 1>in different house? Yes, I'm yeah, that's great. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. Yeah, this is this is That's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great things, um, about technology today is that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for your son, he can still play with his friends

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<v Speaker 1>and and all that stuff. I'm not a gamer. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>even a little older than you. I was, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know they had arcades obviously when I was coming up

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. But I'm telling you, Doug, the last

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<v Speaker 1>video game I was into was in television. Remember that

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<v Speaker 1>it was that long ago in college and there's this

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<v Speaker 1>game called Pong. You should try it, Doug, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me. That was like the first video game

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<v Speaker 1>I actually remember that. But um no, so I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even in the Madden I'm certainly know nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about NBA two K. Will it be interesting? No, watching

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<v Speaker 1>other people playing video games is not injured, right, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Like I've watched a little bit, not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but a little and it just bores me

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<v Speaker 1>to tears. Yes, look, and there'll be people are like

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<v Speaker 1>the godly bischade. You guys just don't understand esports, Like no,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand it really well, it's not is it the

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<v Speaker 1>worst thing in the world, Like, no, it's not. I

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<v Speaker 1>just please don't tell me what I enjoy watching. I

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<v Speaker 1>love basketball. I don't like James Harden dribble around at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the key before he goes one on one.

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<v Speaker 1>But at least it's real people playing as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>a computer simulation. You know, I mean, it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>arbitrary and you and I'm not saying there's not skill

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<v Speaker 1>to it, but let's not let's not call it a sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's though they have teams. I know, the NBA, I

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<v Speaker 1>think at least sixteen of the thirty teams half eighteen. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you have five video you know, five man teams and

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<v Speaker 1>they play they get paid. I mean that's nice, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's created jobs for people. But you can make

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<v Speaker 1>a six figure salary now playing these video games. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's that's that's nuts. That's nuts. But the number

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<v Speaker 1>of people that play video games as opposed to the

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<v Speaker 1>ones making a six figure salary at him. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, it's not a great career, right, career bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have a playan B. Yes, definitely have a plan B. Hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>my late father he used to think he was the

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<v Speaker 1>world's greatest Miss pac Man player. We you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a coach. Oh, he used to love he knew

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<v Speaker 1>all the path he said, there's patterns to it. He

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<v Speaker 1>understands patterns to it. It's patterns to it. And he

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<v Speaker 1>played those that we go on the road. He put

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of quarters up and he would go and

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<v Speaker 1>he played Miss pac Man for hours and hours. But

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've also we've kind of watered that thing down, right, like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna sit here and tell you video games

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<v Speaker 1>were better when we were kids. They're not. But but

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<v Speaker 1>when back when there used to be arcades, you'd only

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<v Speaker 1>get one game in one quarter and then you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait right like, and look, we've done this with

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<v Speaker 1>pick up basketball. You better be good. We've done this

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<v Speaker 1>with pickup basketball right where you can't I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever been knew gym? Well, you can't win

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<v Speaker 1>more than three in a row, three in a row?

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta switch. Like why I want to run the

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<v Speaker 1>court all day. We me and my guys came down

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<v Speaker 1>here to run the court all day. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>run the court all day like none. That's something ways

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing in in video games now because you're

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<v Speaker 1>not putting the quarter in. You know, you paid fifty

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<v Speaker 1>bucks for a game you can play forever. You lose,

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<v Speaker 1>you just start over, start again. Yeah, I agree, And

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<v Speaker 1>I and I wonder this though, because I know I

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<v Speaker 1>know enough to know that they rate the players right right,

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<v Speaker 1>So so the Lebron James on NBA two K is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be much better than uh who who I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go too far as Chris Middleton. Okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? So if if if I say, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>quite as good as you in NBA two K, but

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<v Speaker 1>I got Michael Jordan on. I mean, I have Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James on my team, and you have Chris Middleton had

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<v Speaker 1>a huge yeah, ad vantish for me. Of course, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things, right, Great players have bad days.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad players have great even on the video game. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the point, right, Like in the video game, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kind of play, You're gonna play to your numbers

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<v Speaker 1>every game. He's great, right, I don't know every game.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I'll tell you the hardest thing

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<v Speaker 1>in two K shooting free throws. I just as a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's a bad free throw shooter, like, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have like ninety percent free throw shooters, Like, man, this

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<v Speaker 1>is really hard to make free throws. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a skill or trick to that. Um yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I think it's a fun way to

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<v Speaker 1>get guys. The best part about those deals is when

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<v Speaker 1>you can hear the players talking and they're telling stories

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<v Speaker 1>and they're talking trash, like even now when they're playing

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<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty, and and you can, guys, you can

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<v Speaker 1>watch them play, watch them play Call of duty is

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<v Speaker 1>not interesting. Listening to them talk and tell stories and

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<v Speaker 1>talk trash to each other. That's the interesting part, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Now who else is in this? Uh? What other NBA

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<v Speaker 1>players are in the turn? Trey Young, Hassan white Side,

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan Mitchell, Devin Booker, Andre Drummond, Zach Lavine Montrez, Harold Demontis,

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<v Speaker 1>Sabonis DeAndre and DeMarcus Cousins, Michael Porter, Ruey Hachimura, Patrick Beverley,

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison Barnes, and Derek Jones. Wow, so so k D

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<v Speaker 1>and Cousins are like the oldest about the oldest guys

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<v Speaker 1>in it. So it's clearly a young man's game. How's

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<v Speaker 1>Pat pat BEVs? V's up there a little bit? You

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<v Speaker 1>could put him in that group. See, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is and I again, I don't know the really

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:24.919
<v Speaker 1>young guys, A lot of them. Trey Young might not

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<v Speaker 1>be this way. I don't know how much of a

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 1>gamer he is, but a lot of the younger guys

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:31.399
<v Speaker 1>are so much more into their phones than they are

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<v Speaker 1>into playing video games. Right where this is almost a

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess the guys that went to guys that way.

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<v Speaker 1>If you went to prep school, like right, if you

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<v Speaker 1>went to Finley. If you went a way to prep

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<v Speaker 1>school and then you went and you played a year

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<v Speaker 1>in college, those are the guys I would say are

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<v Speaker 1>most likely to have a lot of video game experience.

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:49.919
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of downtime when you're prep school, a

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of downtime when you're playing au ball. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of down you're saying, So are you saying for

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<v Speaker 1>younger guys, I'm they gonna they're more into their phones

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to the video game. Yes, yes, yes, interesting like my generation,

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Like if you go to the guys in the forties,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a lot we played a lot more video games

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<v Speaker 1>than most of these guys did, like the huh yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and a lot of teams, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>players when they travel in the NBA, and it still

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<v Speaker 1>probably happens, but they would have video games set up

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<v Speaker 1>in their rooms sure, like when they arrived so they

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<v Speaker 1>could play. And that was you know, years ago. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if they're doing that now, yeah, I think.

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 1>And then there's the there's the guys that once you

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<v Speaker 1>have a family, that thing kind of ends right until

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 1>your kids get older. So um, I would say KD

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>play being a gamer would be the least surprising thing

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>of all times. He likes to talk trash. He seems

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>to not he seems like a small circle, right, and

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:49.400
<v Speaker 1>he really loves hoop and he can't hoop at all

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<v Speaker 1>hours of the day, and that that would that would

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<v Speaker 1>be my guess, all right, that that's going to occur virtually.

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>But the most the biggest event that's going to be

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>virtual is the NFL Draft. Charlie Cash he joined the course.

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>He's the former GM and the Nashville Pablague works for

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the NFL network. Kind enough to spend some time with

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>a long with christmus Ardam Doug Gotlieb. This is the

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Charlie, how different

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<v Speaker 1>is preparing for this draft for GMS today as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to any other year? Well, I wrote an article this

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.360
<v Speaker 1>week in the NFL dot Com and outlined it. So

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.199
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't read that, take a look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But here here's here's some thoughts here. The first thing

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>is I broke into the league when it was more

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<v Speaker 1>the exception to the rule that you had a physical

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<v Speaker 1>on a player. We didn't have a combine, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have pro days in the spring to work players out.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have mass testing, psychology of psychological testing, so

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.239
<v Speaker 1>we went into this thing somewhat blind. Okay, so how

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>do you work blind? Well, first of all, I'm taking

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 1>it from where I came in and say, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of advantages. They've already had a combine. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of interviews on players, they have a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>number of physicals already done. They have a film library.

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>We didn't have a film library and try to call

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>a college and hope they sent you some film. They

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>have almost every game played by every school of the

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>players they want to look at, so they have a

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>massive amount of information. But it comes back to this,

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>your area scouts. Those are the guys who've lived in

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the area follow these players to the whole career. They

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>should know them inside out. They should have contacts to

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<v Speaker 1>get any information that they need that they've already gotten

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>okay on them. So when you're sitting there, I'm going

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 1>to go back to that guy and he's going to

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:42.680
<v Speaker 1>be the guy who's going to know him the best.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Then I'm going to have had a scout who's going

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<v Speaker 1>and what we do a cross check in the fall,

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's seen him, So now I've got two guys

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 1>in the room, maybe many as four guys in the room,

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>because you could have a national guy, then I'll go

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>look at him, and that's going to be the basis

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<v Speaker 1>of what you're going to have to make your decisions

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>on now. On physicals, I never went against the doctors. Okay,

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you never went against the doctors or the trainers. However,

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Curtis Martin. Curtis Martin was off our draft board. Patriots

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>took him. I had a long career. Drew Brees rejected

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 1>by the Dolphins. Miami took him. Excuse me, New Orleans

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>took him. Guys in the Hall of Fame. So what

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying there is two doctors can look at the

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>same player and have two totally different opinions on them.

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 1>So on medicals and again, I never went against anybody.

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit of hit and miss now on

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>those decisions. So I think it'll be the area scouts.

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>You gotta have good area scouts and spend your extra

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 1>time to an extra film on these guys, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's how you can be successful in this draft.

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 1>A couple of other quick things. Teams with that extra

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>picks will have an advantage. You may take less risks

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>on guys say that are changing positions. In other word,

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you're taking the safety and now trying to make them

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 1>a corner. Have you never seen the guy backpedal fits

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and system or a crucial If I'm looking at a

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 1>press corner and we playoff coverage, I don't know if

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that guy can do that, may have to pass on them.

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's a little bit of a gamble. So those

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>are some of the things that to me be going

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>through my mind if I was running a team. Charlie,

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>this is interesting because you mentioned years ago how you know,

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you guys just didn't have as much access to the

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>players you were looking to draft as they do now

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>in technology and all that. How much better is the

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>success rate now for you know, teams drafting players then

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>it was back in your day when you were really

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in the heat of it, when you didn't have you,

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, as much technology and on that. I don't

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>have the answer to that question, but it's better just

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>by doing it, Okay. I know we have more information

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>on players, and again it's relevant, so does everybody else,

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>So maybe there is no difference on the percentage. That's

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>what I want. I mean, it's still a hitting miss

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>aspect to it, no question. I did a ten year

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>study on the draft. Only thirty percent of players drafted

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>over a ten year period end up being a starter

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>after four years. Now why is that important? Because at

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the end of four years you basically have free agency,

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>so you have to make a decision one way or

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>another on the player. If he's not a starter, probably

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna move on from him at that point in time.

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>So but and it wasn't always that thirty percent was

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>It didn't make any difference which team there with. So

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>one of those guy who started with one team got cut.

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>But if he was a starter with another team at

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the end of four years, to me, he was a

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>legitimate player. And so seventy percent of the guys you draft,

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna be successful. Charlie, what's your feelings on two?

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>He's been fully cleared, but teams aren't able to get

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>out and evaluate him. He was the number one quarterback

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>prospect heading in into the season. Now it appears he's

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>at best the number two quarterback prospect. Your your thoughts

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>on the idea of drafting to it to buy Looga

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>like him? I think he's a top five pick in

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>any raft. Uh, I have Burrow ahead of him. Only

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>concern I have about him and is we know the

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>medical Okay, that's an obvious concern. Right, That's a hit

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and miss thing. So yeah, it's a guess. Um bodybuild.

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen him live. I mean, I've watched tape

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>of him. I've talked to people to see him, and

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>they talk to me. He's not a big guy in

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the lower bodies. He's kind of a smaller body guy

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:39.239
<v Speaker 1>that bothers me on taking hits. Now, that's that's just

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>an educated guess. Okay, at this point in time, I mean,

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>your guess is as good as mine in trying to

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>take him. I probably would take him and h but

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously i'd have access to more information than I have

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>right now. All right, how about how about this one?

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>There's Miami apparently really values Joe Burrow and wants him

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to be there quarterback. They have three first round picks

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati obviously, I mean, look, the likelihood is they're not

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>going to make a trade. But if you were in

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>sanse if you were Cincinnati's GM, and you said, what

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>is that? What is what is the value and what

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>is slightly overpaying if you're Miami, what is slightly overpaying

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>to move up to take an Ohio born kid away

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>from the Cincinnati benis if you're the Bengals, what's what's

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the ask? There's no price. I'm taking Burrow period. Okay,

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I like him that much better than Tuah. Yes, because

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>because here's the thing. Okay, um, now again, Burrow, he's

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>got some warts to now, Okay, he hasn't done this

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>for a number of years. Ta has actually performed better

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>than Burrow. Considering he goes into win's a national championship

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>coming off the bench. Is what a freshman, right, So

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>he's got a little more history here, that's important. Burrow

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have quite that much history. So there's a there's

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>a there's an element of risk in both of them.

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>But I just liked the fact that Burrow the body

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>build on them versus TWA. Makes it to me sure enough.

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Now I pulled I'd have to get my notes on

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>if I said this, I tell it it's it's somewhere

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>in writing on social media. Pulled about twenty seven teams,

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>and let's see, it was like twenty three to three

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to one Burrow over Tah and the general consensus was, uh,

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the durability factor okay, and and a little bit more

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>consistent as a passer. And but two, it to me

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>is a top five pick when I pulled SEC coaches

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>who played these guys who was dead even when when

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I took the pole air. Um, but I would I

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 1>would not trade him. You can offer me anything, and

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to trade him. How much? Um, Obviously

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Joe Brady, you know, did a great job with Burrow.

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Um one, how big of an issue you know how

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 1>much of the success was due to Joe Brady. And

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>does Joe Brady I'm not saying Bridgewater is gonna light

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the league go on fire, but him and him working

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:12.479
<v Speaker 1>with Brady and Carolina, do you think that'll be a

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>great team and that it'll it'll pay big dividends for

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>them with that relationship. Okay, let me answer. Let me

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>answer a question here and this way. Hey, I don't

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>know Joe Brady. I don't know what effect he had

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>on Burrow. But Joe Brady didn't call the plays. Okay,

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I like Bridgewater, But Bridgewater had

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>great coaching last year with Sean Payton and Pete Carmichael

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and et cetera. Who was there? So people play well

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>for Sean Payton. So I don't know how Joe Brady's

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna act in this situation where he's now by himself

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and calling the plays, etc. And that's not a nag

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of I just don't know, But I like Bridgewater. Bridgewater

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>is smart, he plays smart, makes good decisions, knows where

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to go with the football. He's a positive. He doesn't

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>have a top arm. He was a playoff quarterback in Minnesota,

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>would have been a playoff quarterback with New Orleans last

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 1>year if he played the whole season. So I think

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>they got a good quarterback in Carolina. I'm happy with that.

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he's going to be elite, but

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he's good. Tom Brady is a great quarterback.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 1>No one would argue that he's also forty three. Are

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 1>going to play at forty three And since Randy Moss

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>left the Patriots, and you can forgive me if I'm wrong,

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and before, he's always been a guy who's focused on underneath.

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, Look, Gronk had one year where he led

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>them in catches, but for the most part, it's been Edelman, Welker, Rochet, Caldwell,

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Troy Brown, those type players. That's not really how the

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Buccaneers roster is comprised. They have two good tight ends,

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 1>they have two big time wide receivers, but no real

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>underneath guys, and to this point, not a back who's

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.919
<v Speaker 1>tremendous out of the backfield, something that he's really used

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<v Speaker 1>throughout his career. Does Brady's style fit how Bruce Arians

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally likes to play well. What you've described is accurate

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<v Speaker 1>in the big picture. There's no slot there. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>used the tight ends much. I think that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>change a lot. Brady is more of an inside the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers thrower. That's not necessarily their offense. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>number one that I think that Bruce Arians will not

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<v Speaker 1>will be smart between him and Brady, they'll figure this

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<v Speaker 1>out as to what the best offense is. When I

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<v Speaker 1>watch Brady throw last year, who's he throwing to? Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>except Edelman, Nobody that can beat one on one coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him throw the ball deep. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>actually improved as a d thrower. I think that your

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<v Speaker 1>question is legit. They need to get a receiving back.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Jones is the receiving back. Maybe he can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a little bit of unknown there. But I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Brady last year, the guy I saw on tape

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<v Speaker 1>could still win a championship. And I think these guys

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<v Speaker 1>will adjust to what Brady can do. Tight ends will

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<v Speaker 1>probably be bigger, more part of the offense, certainly. Charlie,

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<v Speaker 1>great stuff. You're You're safe, You're healthy, You're you're good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. How about you? You guys good? We're all good.

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<v Speaker 1>dogs are happy, but otherwise we're no difference. Thanks, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for Jonas the Dead Patrick Show. Hey, great,

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not gonna learn anything from it, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>will you learn some things? You're like, yes, yes, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just about every every um, every descriptive word you could use.

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<v Speaker 1>It is right. It makes you, It makes you mad,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you sad, it makes you laugh. It it

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<v Speaker 1>drops your jaw that this actually, this subculture actually exists

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<v Speaker 1>because it's true. It is it. It is some level

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<v Speaker 1>of truth. Yes, I mean it's it's yeah, Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're waiting to find out who's the good guy,

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<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't really come up with the good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the best the person with the moral compass

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<v Speaker 1>in the show on some level appears to be a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who became a campaign director for Joe Joe Exotic

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<v Speaker 1>and he was previously a manager at Walmart selling ammunition

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe Exotic. That's the guy with the best moral

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<v Speaker 1>compass of anybody in the show. But like, look to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's at least enjoyable whereas like ESPN doing the best

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball basketball player of all time in the tournament

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<v Speaker 1>and including women with men is thank you, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>the least like why are you making this the least

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyable exercise of what could be enjoyable? Right? It was

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<v Speaker 1>a great idea, yes, but they ruined it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, like you said, they should have had

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<v Speaker 1>a separate bracket for women, yes, and a separate bracket

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<v Speaker 1>for men. Enough of the political correctness for a minute, please,

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<v Speaker 1>just there's nothing wrong with that they play in separate leagues.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we don't. We didn't. We don't include the most

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<v Speaker 1>dominant NAIA players Division two players Division three. Why because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different level of the sport. This is just

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<v Speaker 1>a different We don't include your high school numbers. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not just don't try. It's a difference. They play

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<v Speaker 1>with a different sized basketball against a different gender of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And and like, look, I get it, Brandon Stewart's great,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was at Yukon where they're stacked. You know

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<v Speaker 1>they got, they got they run six seven deep as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to like, my point is, if you don't start

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<v Speaker 1>and stop with lu Al Sender and Bill Walton, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're really not. You're not. You actually don't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about the sport. Didn't Who did shock beat lu Al Cinder? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was it Brianna? I don't know. I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly didn't pay attention. I just attention to it. But

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<v Speaker 1>some lu Al you hit it on a hit. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are the two best college players of all time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and Michael Jordan won it, and obviously I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>the goat period, but he was not the greatest college basketbaball. No. ALB.

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<v Speaker 1>Sampson was a better college and more dominant college player

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<v Speaker 1>right in the in the peak of the ACC where

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina was winning a national championship, North Carolina State was

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<v Speaker 1>winning a national championship. Okay, like Duke was even great,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had Mark Allery and other and other other stars. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we can go through and it was eight teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the ACC. He won the National Player of the Year

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<v Speaker 1>three times in a row, like Wayman, like Wayman Tisdale.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't it didn't make the list first Team All

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<v Speaker 1>American as a freshman at at Oklahoma, but they had

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Young in the turn instead of time. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a joke, man, And I thought, look Jordan beat Magic

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<v Speaker 1>in the Final four. I thought Magic had a better

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<v Speaker 1>college career. He did. He did the one national championship

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<v Speaker 1>in the game that changed college basketball and merely basketball

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<v Speaker 1>forever against Larry Bird. But Jordan and Jordan did hit

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<v Speaker 1>a shot. But that was in his freshman year, which

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<v Speaker 1>he was when he was not a star, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think I guess it entertained and filled

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<v Speaker 1>some time. I would say I'd be interested to hear

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<v Speaker 1>your take on if you you know, my wife's from Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 1>I have friends from Florida. There's a lot of Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>and Florida in the story, which makes it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>even more entertaining on some level. All Right, the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>is making some massive massive changes. One are we good

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<v Speaker 1>with the draft going forward as is? And wait to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what they're doing to the playoffs. It's official, it's next.

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