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Speaker 1: Buzznight, and welcome to Taking a Walk podcast, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to another look at this week in music history for

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Speaker 1: the week of September fifteenth to the twenty first.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct, Harry Jacobs?

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Speaker 3: It is indeed correct, the fifteenth through the twenty first.

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Speaker 1: I can look at a calendar actually, and I could

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Speaker 1: actually recite dates.

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Speaker 2: This is unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Well, Harry, you are the man that looks at all

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Speaker 1: the minutia, all the little things in music history. So

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Speaker 1: let's break it down. What is happening for this week.

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Speaker 3: This is an interesting week.

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Speaker 4: You know, this is one of those weeks where there's

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Speaker 4: there's not a tremendous amount going on.

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Speaker 3: We got we got a few good ones.

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Speaker 4: Mark Bolin of t Rex died in a car accident

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Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy seven on September the sixteenth. The band

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Speaker 4: was actually named Trannosaurus Rex. It was just like the

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Speaker 4: just like the dinosaur. And then they you know, they

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Speaker 4: cut it down.

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Speaker 1: They were formed, and I think that the mid sixties,

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Speaker 1: sixty six or sixty seven.

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Speaker 4: Not a ton of songs, right, we know the hit

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Speaker 4: which was getting on bang Agong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other one that was actually a pretty

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Speaker 1: cool one. Was Jeepster, If I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 3: There were.

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Speaker 4: There were a few listed Hot Love Telegram, Sam Metal Guru.

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Speaker 3: I don't know any of those. How about Jeepster? Though, No,

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Speaker 3: I don't remember Jeepster. It sounds familiar.

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Speaker 1: To me if I if I played it for you,

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Speaker 1: you would, don't we'd be like Garth and Wayne pop

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Speaker 1: into the music.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, indeed we would.

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Speaker 1: What an embarrassing look? That would be bad with the

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Speaker 1: mullets and everything else. Nothing to be like. We're not

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Speaker 1: bad enough already. We gotta look at that.

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Speaker 2: We'll drive away every listener possible.

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Speaker 1: We'll even drive away our one of our biggest listeners,

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Speaker 1: justin from the cheese shop.

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Speaker 3: Right there, you go in Carlis is Carlisle? Is that

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Speaker 3: where he is?

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Speaker 1: He's in conquered, Massachusetts, conquered. Okay, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 2: He will in your mail. He may be mailing you

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Speaker 2: some cheese. You never know.

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Speaker 4: That would be delightful. I wonder how the breed travels

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Speaker 4: very well. Mark Bull in September sixteenth of nineteen seventy seven,

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Speaker 3: September seventeenth to seventy eighth.

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Speaker 4: The Grateful Dead reconvened for their first live concerts since

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Speaker 4: they took a hiatus the year before, and they played

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Speaker 4: at Egypt's Nile Side Sound and Light Theater. That's that's

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Speaker 4: a venue I've never heard of.

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Speaker 2: That's that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I never I never got into the Dead. I guess

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Speaker 4: I got it. The thing made sense to me.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Fish and the Dead and that that

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Speaker 1: music from me wasn't ever anything that did anything for me.

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Speaker 1: Now that being said, there are a handful of grateful

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Speaker 1: Dead songs that I love. Hell in a Bucket, I

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Speaker 3: A Touch of Gray. I've always liked, you know, Trucking.

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Speaker 4: Friend of the Devil is a handful of songs, you know,

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Speaker 4: the hits, and maybe a B side or two that

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Speaker 1: That's not their main deal though they're not just a

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Speaker 3: What is their deal?

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Speaker 4: Explain that to me, because I think if you were

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Speaker 4: to say to me, what's the deal with the Dead,

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Speaker 4: I would say, there's this band that released a handful

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Speaker 4: of singles that were all really good and playable on

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Speaker 3: But when you go see them live.

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Speaker 4: You got to get yourself high so you can deal

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Speaker 4: with a you know, a thirty minute version of trucking.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty unfair, man. That's harsh Listen. I think the

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Speaker 3: That sounded you sounded like, Hey, that was your inner hippie.

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Speaker 3: Harsh Man. That's harsh Man, harsh Man.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing with the Grateful Dead is they

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Speaker 1: in a band world. I think they were they were

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Speaker 3: Like it was unique?

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Speaker 2: Completely embraced that.

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Speaker 4: It was a big deal to have those you know,

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Speaker 3: And you're right, they did embrace that.

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Speaker 2: They're they're they're a model for building a community.

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Speaker 1: Really when you think about it, the merchandise aspect of it,

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Speaker 1: you know, the enduring legacy of their brand. They made

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Speaker 1: And in their own way, they were brilliantly calculated on

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Speaker 4: Listen, that brand, that red, white and blue symbol that's

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Speaker 4: the Dead and Friends, however they're referring to themselves. These

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Speaker 3: It looked magnificent. Did you see that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So they're a model for branding when you think

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Speaker 1: that in their own way as well.

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Speaker 4: To me, the Almonds were very similar in that way too.

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Speaker 4: You're right, but there was appeal to me that there

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Speaker 4: not to be judge, I don't know. There was just

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Speaker 4: some reason, outside of the studio stuff, which I really

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Speaker 3: That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the other thing I'll say about Jerry as

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Speaker 1: has an enduring legacy when it comes to helping to

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Speaker 1: You know the name John Sheer, right, I do the

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Speaker 1: New York music promoter. I became friendly with John and

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Speaker 1: those guys, and you know, Jim's got some interesting stories

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Speaker 1: but you know, Jerry was you know, an opioid addict, right,

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Speaker 1: that was the you know, listen a lifetime of chili,

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Speaker 1: Not a good combination, No, it's not at all, But

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Speaker 1: So it's right, And I did just pull up because

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Speaker 1: That was the group in nineteen seventy three it made.

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Speaker 1: It was made up of Peter Rowan, Vassar Clemens, who

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Speaker 1: they were really like kind of a bluegrass supergroup. The

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Speaker 1: how's that, everybody for a rabbit hole that we just

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of information, boss, how about we move

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Speaker 4: on to something I can line with a little bit better.

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Speaker 4: It's a little easier to talk about.

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Speaker 1: September eighteenth, nineteen seventy, a member of the twenty seven

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Speaker 2: I thought about it, but I want you to go okay.

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Speaker 4: He put his guitar up to his mouth and played

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Speaker 4: James Hendrix James Marshall Hendrix died nineteen seventy September eighteenth.

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Speaker 4: It cut short this.

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Speaker 1: This career he would have had, and by all indications

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Speaker 1: some who knew him, I have spoken about if Felix

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Speaker 1: Cavalier is an example just not only unbelievable player, but

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Speaker 1: a sweetheart. Yeah, I've heard the same thing, complete sweeter,

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Speaker 3: That was a.

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Speaker 1: Crosstown traffic, think about how aggressive some of the music

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Speaker 1: a you know, as a general soul. Absolutely, people that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, great, great stories about Jimmy Hendrix and his

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Speaker 4: guitar playing. You know, when you look at I always

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Speaker 3: What I noodle around with.

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Speaker 4: But when you look at the song Little Wing, it's

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Speaker 4: become a blues standard, oh for sure. Right, everybody plays it, Yep,

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Speaker 4: everybody plays it. Duke Levine, Duke Levine, who's connected to

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Speaker 4: for a long time, Duke Levine. I used to go

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Speaker 4: a kid, you know, it was forty years ago, and

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Speaker 4: Duke would play a great version of Little Wing. And

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Speaker 4: I always I loved watching him play anyway, and still do.

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Speaker 3: But I think about.

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Speaker 4: Duke Levine playing Little Wing, and then all the people

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Speaker 4: including Eric Clapton and Stevie ray Vaughn and people that

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Speaker 4: were legendary guitar players that still that lick. When you

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Speaker 4: hear that lick today.

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Speaker 1: You go, oh, that's immediately recognizable, certainly as a guitar player.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 4: But Hendrick's nineteen seventy September eighteenth lost his life at

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Speaker 4: twenty seven years old. Like you know, Jim Morrison, Janis

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Speaker 4: Joplin and John Belushi was missing anybody.

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Speaker 3: In that club?

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Speaker 1: Amy Whitehouse, right, yeah, Amy Whitehouse. That was That was

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Speaker 1: a sad story, I know.

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Speaker 4: September twentieth, nineteen seventy three, our last story for the week.

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Speaker 4: Jim Crochey was killed in a plane crash. And you

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Speaker 4: know he he banged out a bunch of top ten hits.

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Speaker 2: In a short amount of time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Bad Bad Lee Roy Brown to me is one

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Speaker 4: of you know.

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Speaker 3: It was just a great pop song.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a fan of pop music anyway, but

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Speaker 1: operator and Bad Bad Lee Roy Brown and Time and

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Speaker 1: a Bottle. It was my prom theme in nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: three or war.

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Speaker 3: It was Time and a Bottle.

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Speaker 2: I interviewed AJ Croachy Jim's oh his son.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a real, real sweet guy and obviously immensely influenced

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Speaker 1: by his dad, even though he doesn't really sound like

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Speaker 1: him per se, but he, you know, could.

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Speaker 2: Just sense the love.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't really know his father really that

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Speaker 1: well because he died. So yeah he was yeah, he

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Speaker 1: was kid, yeah, little kid. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes there are kids that are offshoots.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at like Julian Lennon yep, and

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Speaker 1: you go, boy, he you know, he sounds like his dad.

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Speaker 1: It would be how great would it be to hear

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Speaker 1: Julian play with Paul and Ringo? You know, you know

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Speaker 1: that would be a treat.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, you look at at Jim's son,

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Speaker 4: and then you look at people that are not a

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Speaker 4: son but a grandson, like Thomas Gabriel, the grandson of

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Speaker 4: Johnny Cash, who sings some Johnny Cash music, and it's

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Speaker 4: just frightening. It's just haunting to hear his voice.

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Speaker 1: I know you shared that so good. I know he's

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Speaker 1: so good. I remember I remember hearing it. And every

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Speaker 1: once in a while I'll hear something and I'll send

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Speaker 1: it to you, or I'll see something and I'll send

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Speaker 1: it to you via text and go. You need to

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Speaker 1: stop what you're doing and listening to this and and

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Speaker 1: Thomas Gabriel, Johnny Cash's grandson, is one of them. He

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Speaker 1: would be a great guest for you on taking a

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Speaker 1: walk or music Save me. He had a shitty life

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Speaker 1: prison to himself. Big dude tattooed probably you know, probably

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Speaker 1: over six feet and two hundred and fifty pounds. He's

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Speaker 1: a monster of a guy. Not someone you'd want to

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Speaker 1: run into in a dark alley. And when he opens

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Speaker 1: his mouth he sounds like Johnny Cash. The other one too,

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Speaker 1: is Tommy Prime, John Prine's son as well. Oh yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I've always say he had a song out a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago. I was hoping for more from him

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Speaker 1: and it's kind of went silent because I was always

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Speaker 1: thinking that would be really neat to talk to him

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well listen, there you go.

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Speaker 4: That's this Week in Music for September fifteenth through the twenty.

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Speaker 2: First bus Well. The King of the rabbit Holes Harry Jacobs.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, I appreciate that you should talk. You should talk.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm the I'm to blame. I'm to blame.

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Speaker 3: You invented the rabbit hole.

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Speaker 1: It should be trademark Buzz Night, nineteen sixty five. This

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Speaker 1: Week in music history for the week of September fifteenth

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Speaker 1: to the twenty first. Thank you, Harry, and thank you

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Speaker 1: to all of you for listening to the Taking a

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Speaker 1: Walk podcast.

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Speaker 2: We really appreciate it. I mean it really.

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Speaker 3: We're not speaking anymore, you and I for at least

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Speaker 3: a week. Thank you because of that. Goodbye.