Speaker 1: It is Thursday, January fourteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: Coming up, We've got a big show today as urban
Speaker 1: Meyer Watch continues. Nothing official from the Jaguars as of yet,
Speaker 1: but plenty of media reports and photographs at certain air
Speaker 1: fields of a certain former college head coach in town today.
Speaker 1: We'll discuss it all coming up. Talk of facilities upgrades
Speaker 1: as part of that. Part of the reporting today involved
Speaker 1: in Urban Meyer's uh conversations with the Jaguars could be
Speaker 1: of facilities upgrades, staffing reports who could be on the
Speaker 1: coaching staff. And then we have a second hour of
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the network at five o'clock today.
Speaker 1: Jeff Loghman in with us. And a lot going on
Speaker 1: around Jacksonville today and a lot of it has to
Speaker 1: do with a former bowling green Utah, Florida, Ohio state
Speaker 1: head coach. You mean the guy that's one everywhere, has
Speaker 1: been everywhere. Yeah, that's pretty good, right. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: one of the most successful college coaches of all time,
Speaker 1: as record supports that. And when you're an organization that
Speaker 1: has not been able to change the culture and become
Speaker 1: a winner, then you try to find somebody that can
Speaker 1: change that culture. And does Urban Meyer fit that billion Absolutely.
Speaker 1: You gotta have, I think with the head coach, great
Speaker 1: leadership ability, and he clearly has that, otherwise he would
Speaker 1: not have the broad success that he's had at different
Speaker 1: levels of program. And you're talking about Florida that was
Speaker 1: a pretty much a perennial winner, and he brought him
Speaker 1: back to sustain winning. He built the program in Bowling
Speaker 1: Green that was jp it was Bowling Green right for
Speaker 1: heaven's sake, and winning there and then goes to Ohio
Speaker 1: State and re establishes Ohio State as part of the
Speaker 1: national championship conversation year in a year out. So he's
Speaker 1: had great success and and I hope he can bring
Speaker 1: the same to here. And I hope he's tired. Let's hope.
Speaker 1: So obviously with the media reports today and the cameras
Speaker 1: following around he's around the building, and from the last reports,
Speaker 1: the negotiations continue, but he's around. I'll say that. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing's done until it's done. You know, the
Speaker 1: inks you gotta get get dry. But he's not here
Speaker 1: for no reason. So it's not a joy ride today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. But then again, like I said, until the
Speaker 1: inc is dry, you never know. And and it's so
Speaker 1: I think there will be I think a little bit
Speaker 1: of I don't want to say a split emotion about
Speaker 1: the hiring of Urban because there's a lot of Florida
Speaker 1: fans that weren't happy when he left Florida, but if
Speaker 1: he were still at Florida, they would love him probably.
Speaker 1: I mean, so, I think there's gonna be a segment
Speaker 1: of people that that are going to be like, oh, Urban, no,
Speaker 1: we don't want him. But then I think the majority
Speaker 1: of the people are going to recognize that he's one
Speaker 1: of the best coaches in football and are gonna be
Speaker 1: extremely excited to have him. Thirty two is a head
Speaker 1: coach the third best winning percentage in major college football history,
Speaker 1: trailing only Newt Rockney and Frank Lahy, which is amazing
Speaker 1: win percentage, and with saying that it's also a different
Speaker 1: game in the pros, and that you you cannot out
Speaker 1: recruit in the pros. You have salary cap constraints. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a little different game, but it's still once
Speaker 1: you strip away a lot of the differences, it's still
Speaker 1: football at its core. And football needs great leadership and
Speaker 1: uh and I think that he can provide that. And
Speaker 1: and so I think it's gonna be if, if it happened,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna make the Jaguars a part of
Speaker 1: the conversation with Urban Meyers the coach. But then you
Speaker 1: have to be able to make the Jaguars a part
Speaker 1: of the conversation because you're winning. After that point, I
Speaker 1: gotta win. And you know, this is one of those
Speaker 1: It feels like somebody saw everybody's been following Twitter today,
Speaker 1: of course, and everything that's been going on around this,
Speaker 1: and somebody made a good point today that I saw it.
Speaker 1: Kind of I think it was Daniel Jeremiah. Actually, um,
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't me. No, it wasn't you, because
Speaker 1: you're such a prolific tweeter. Let me tell you, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty pressed, right, he said, it felt to him almost
Speaker 1: like a Jimmy Johnson to the Cowboys moment because that
Speaker 1: was almost a clean slate. They did a bunch of
Speaker 1: drafting and really started from the bottom in Dallas to
Speaker 1: build that thing up. And that's what it feels like
Speaker 1: is gonna happen here because the first overall pick, new coach,
Speaker 1: new GM coming in UH, an owner that wants to
Speaker 1: spend and do it the right way. It has that feeling.
Speaker 1: I think Daniel made a pretty good point. I think
Speaker 1: it's a good point, and and I was fortunate enough
Speaker 1: to be able to kind of watch the Jimmy Johnson
Speaker 1: to Dallas kind of thing, UH with a little bit
Speaker 1: of a front row seat because when I was a
Speaker 1: player at the East West Shrine Game, Jimmy Johnson at
Speaker 1: that time was the coach of the Miami Hurricanes, and
Speaker 1: so he was one of our all star coaches then.
Speaker 1: And eventually he gets hired soon after that to become
Speaker 1: the coach for Jerry Jones, the new owner of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and Jerry I thought made a great decision
Speaker 1: highing Jimmy Johnson, and Jimmy changed the culture. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of good friends that played for Jimmy in
Speaker 1: those early years. Mark Stepanowski, Darryl Johnston. I mean, they
Speaker 1: all rave about about Jimmy Johnson, and uh, he didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of draft picks when he walked in
Speaker 1: the door. He garnered quite a few of them because
Speaker 1: they were able to trade herschel Walker, which was a
Speaker 1: huge blockbuster trade which allowed the Dallas Cowboys to really
Speaker 1: select players to help them win. That gave Jimmy a
Speaker 1: little bit of an advantage because if you go back
Speaker 1: and you look at the the players that he picked
Speaker 1: with the with the picks that were acquired from the
Speaker 1: herschel Walker trade, it was it was literally cornerstone type
Speaker 1: player after cornerstone type player, and that made a big
Speaker 1: difference in the success of the Dallas Cowboys. So this
Speaker 1: offseason and building the base of the organization and free
Speaker 1: agency in the draft obviously quite important. Again, nothing official
Speaker 1: yet from the Jaguars today on Urban Meyer, but he
Speaker 1: is around. Negotiations continue, That's what has been reported. That's
Speaker 1: what is happening, and we're discussing it here on Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour presented by the c s I Companies. You know,
Speaker 1: the College spro thing. We've seen it works some for
Speaker 1: some guys and not work so well for others. Um,
Speaker 1: there's only been three coaches that have won a national
Speaker 1: championship and a Super Bowl. Jimmy Johnson's one of those,
Speaker 1: Barry Switzer is another, and then He Carroll is the third.
Speaker 1: And some would say that Barry Switzer doesn't really count
Speaker 1: because he won it with Jimmy's team, but I mean,
Speaker 1: the simple fact is he did win it, and Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll was able to do it. So it hasn't been
Speaker 1: there hasn't been a lot that have done it. But
Speaker 1: I think the most important thing is that if you
Speaker 1: look at the former college coaches that have made I
Speaker 1: mean I'm talking about really good former college coaches that
Speaker 1: have made the move to the NFL, there may not
Speaker 1: have been these this great success rate, but here's the thing,
Speaker 1: there hasn't been a large failure rate. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you look at it from that standpoint, because the reality
Speaker 1: is is that it's also about the Jimmy's and the
Speaker 1: Joe's as well as the xs and os and coaching matters.
Speaker 1: But you still have to have the top shelf players
Speaker 1: to be able to help get you to that type
Speaker 1: of performance. And so herban Meyer is just like any
Speaker 1: other coach, and from the standpoint of he needs to
Speaker 1: have good players to win, and I think there are
Speaker 1: coaches that can have good players and they don't win,
Speaker 1: And I don't think Urban Meyer is going to be
Speaker 1: anywhere close to that. So, and here's the other thing, JP,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want to have one of the most
Speaker 1: successful college coaches of all time and find out if
Speaker 1: he can transfer that success to the pro game. For me,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a lot better when you're trying to
Speaker 1: do it from the standpoint of, Hey, we want to
Speaker 1: establish winning quickly and winning quickly now to say, let's
Speaker 1: take it's not as much of a leap of faith
Speaker 1: to do it with a guy like a Ramier who
Speaker 1: has proven that he's done it at the collegiate level
Speaker 1: as it is per se trying to do it with
Speaker 1: all these hot assistant coaches in the National Football League
Speaker 1: that are considered hot commodities. I think that's uh would
Speaker 1: be a very tough thing to do and try to
Speaker 1: forecast success with some of those guys that are position
Speaker 1: coaches or coordinators now at some other NFL team, thinking
Speaker 1: that they can be had or have the great success
Speaker 1: that Urban Myers ad at the pro game. Urban, of course,
Speaker 1: one of the innovative offensive minds in college football over
Speaker 1: the last years or so, starting that spread offense, really
Speaker 1: growing it and developing it into a system that took
Speaker 1: over the SEC in Florida and then spread out to
Speaker 1: other places in college football. And now it's it's creeping
Speaker 1: into the NFL, which is you know, in the old days,
Speaker 1: you'd think, okay, NFL pro style, if you have this
Speaker 1: kind of quarterback, it won't work in the NFL. Well,
Speaker 1: now you have entire organizations that are shifting over to
Speaker 1: college philosophies that are now creeping into the NFL. More
Speaker 1: and more and more teams are are using a lot
Speaker 1: of the things that he was doing about fifteen years ago,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the same type of stuff.
Speaker 1: And here here's the crazy thing. For for a long time,
Speaker 1: it was it was thought that the college stuff couldn't
Speaker 1: be applied to the National Football League because you have
Speaker 1: to have a running quarterback, because that's the entire basis
Speaker 1: of the system that you see in college, and that
Speaker 1: the quarterback can be a dominant threat as a runner.
Speaker 1: It's a numbers game to write a number of the
Speaker 1: defense as the quarterback instead of now just being ignored
Speaker 1: now has to be counted as a potential ball carrier,
Speaker 1: which allows one other person that's not carrying the ball
Speaker 1: to be a blocker. And that's where the numbers game is.
Speaker 1: And heck, if if Nick Foles is still running some
Speaker 1: of the read option and Nick Foles might be the
Speaker 1: absolute opposite of what you would think might be able
Speaker 1: to run or to be a running quarterback. If he
Speaker 1: can do it, and the principles are working for a
Speaker 1: guy like a Nick Foles or even uh for example,
Speaker 1: or Tom Brady who fakes a handoff and it's a
Speaker 1: read option type principle, it can work for anybody. Really.
Speaker 1: We know that Tom Brady is not going to run anywhere,
Speaker 1: but that's a little bit of an exaggeration. But you
Speaker 1: get my point, and that you don't have to have
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson to run some of these college principles and
Speaker 1: make them success at the NFL level. NFL coaches have
Speaker 1: taken it and applied it at the NFL level, and
Speaker 1: they've also done it a little differently, and that they're
Speaker 1: obviously the quarterbacks not keeping the ball as much, but
Speaker 1: the threat still exists that the quarterback can run the football.
Speaker 1: Curious to see obviously that the coaching staff around if
Speaker 1: urban Meyer is finalized at some point either today tomorrow,
Speaker 1: the coaching staff that he would decide to bring in
Speaker 1: with him. There are reports of on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball already of Charlie Strong, maybe as a
Speaker 1: defensive coach of some kind. They haven't really reported what.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen many offensive names links yet, but I'm curious,
Speaker 1: you know, would he have a play caller, would he
Speaker 1: be involved in that or is he more of a
Speaker 1: CEO type? And I think we'd find out a whole
Speaker 1: lot more whenever it's announced and whenever he speaks to
Speaker 1: the media for the first time. Yeah, that's uh, let's
Speaker 1: get to the point where it's announced first, and that's right,
Speaker 1: and we can we can speculate all day and as
Speaker 1: people have been speculating about that, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: very productive. But but I do know that the college
Speaker 1: game is different than the progame. The playbook for colleges
Speaker 1: maybe that thick, and I'm basically putting my two fingers
Speaker 1: together for those on radio, about half an inch part,
Speaker 1: whereas the pro game it might be two inches thick.
Speaker 1: And so it's a little bit different. I think that
Speaker 1: the coverages are a little bit more sophisticated, and for
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. For for one, this is a job,
Speaker 1: and you can expect players at the NFL level to
Speaker 1: assimilate the information and uh and be ready to go
Speaker 1: with it. And because it's their job, that's the only
Speaker 1: thing they're studying. They're not having to worry about biochemistry
Speaker 1: or calculus, or anthropology or JP in your case, the
Speaker 1: history of art or the history of circuits. You know
Speaker 1: those classes you talk Alabama, so uh, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And so that now they can just read
Speaker 1: a playbook. But it's definitely a little bit more complex
Speaker 1: and and there's a lot more put on quarterbacks at
Speaker 1: the National Football League level, at least the ones that
Speaker 1: have been wildly successful. We've got plenty of show ahead,
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Speaker 1: Tony Vase Elliott four five. Urban Meyer Watch continues. He
Speaker 1: is reportedly in the Jacksonville area. If you followed social
Speaker 1: media today, you probably saw some photographs of him stepping
Speaker 1: off a private jet at the Cecil Airport on the
Speaker 1: west side of town. He is apparently in negotiations with
Speaker 1: the Jaguars as we speak, and if anything breaks in
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour logs. We promised quarterback talk, and of
Speaker 1: course many people feel that the Jaguars will draft a
Speaker 1: quarterback first overall this year. I think you probably. I
Speaker 1: wonder why, and I wonder who it might be. But um,
Speaker 1: since we're discussing urban Meyer here today, we need to
Speaker 1: go through urban Meyer's history of quarterbacks in college, considering
Speaker 1: the system that he had really kind of developed and
Speaker 1: used over his college time there, and it seems to
Speaker 1: have a similar feel for a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: because of the offense and the way they have to run.
Speaker 1: At Josh Harris at Bowling Green. I must say I
Speaker 1: did not remember Josh Harris at Bowling Green. I didn't
Speaker 1: watch a lot of Bowling Green and No one O
Speaker 1: two me either. But he was a six round picked
Speaker 1: by Baltimore in two thousand four and was three seasons
Speaker 1: in the NFL and the CFL. Apparently then Alex Smith, Utah.
Speaker 1: Alex Smith's star really rose in Salt Lake in the
Speaker 1: time that he was under urban Meyer, and he was
Speaker 1: the first overall pick. That's one of the big reasons
Speaker 1: why is the great success that Urban had with him
Speaker 1: at at the school. And that's Alex Smith. You know
Speaker 1: Alex Smith would would you consider him a runner? Well? Uh,
Speaker 1: in in those days, yes, in those days he kind
Speaker 1: of had to do some of that. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's a sprinter, so he's not. I mean he's not
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow. He was running enough. He's an offense Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson or Michael Vick. But I mean he ran enough
Speaker 1: exactly to make that offense work. And that's the importance
Speaker 1: is that you don't have to be uh dynamic and
Speaker 1: a home run threat every time you touch the ball.
Speaker 1: But you gotta be a threat. You gotta be a threat,
Speaker 1: and you have to make proper decisions as well. I
Speaker 1: mean that's a quarterback decision. Offense. You're reading and reacting
Speaker 1: and if you make the wrong move, the play gets
Speaker 1: blown up. Yeah. The one the one thing is for
Speaker 1: certain that because we're talking about the the potential of
Speaker 1: of a Urban Meyer type of an offense in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I think there will be changes to a lot
Speaker 1: of that. I think I think a lot of it
Speaker 1: will adapt to to the NFL game and will a
Speaker 1: quarterback be a running threat. If he's the head coach here,
Speaker 1: I think that he will absolutely be a threat. But
Speaker 1: I think all the reality is in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: you don't want to get your quarterback hit if you
Speaker 1: don't have to get your quarterback hit, because this is
Speaker 1: a position that if you get the right one and
Speaker 1: he's allowed to grow and allowed to stay healthy. Look
Speaker 1: at Tom Brady, look at Drew Brees. You think Tom
Speaker 1: Brady Drew Brees would have lasted as long as they
Speaker 1: did if they were these read option type quarterbacks at
Speaker 1: the NFL level. I don't think so. Some other quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in urban Meyer's past, Chris Leak at Florida, he was
Speaker 1: inherited when Urban showed up in Gainesville. He wasn't a
Speaker 1: exceptional runner, so he wasn't the great fit. But then
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow was. He was the ideal football player for
Speaker 1: what they were doing in Gainesville. Yeah, and and uh Tim,
Speaker 1: when you hear him talk about urban Meyer, I mean
Speaker 1: he raves about urban Meyer and uh so interesting and
Speaker 1: that that you know. And Tim, I think is one
Speaker 1: of the great college football players of all time. And
Speaker 1: when he speaks highly of a coach like he has
Speaker 1: about urban Meyer. I think that speaks a lot of
Speaker 1: volumes for for urban Meyer, and Tim obviously was not
Speaker 1: his game wasn't really meant for the National Football League,
Speaker 1: which also shows that you know, you've got to have
Speaker 1: a quarterback that can throw it, that can read it
Speaker 1: and uh and go through progressions and and that's not
Speaker 1: what Tim had. So Urban mars is obviously going to
Speaker 1: be wanting a quarterback that can do some of those
Speaker 1: things that Tim could not at the pro level. Then
Speaker 1: we go on to Columbus when urban Meyer came back
Speaker 1: into the Big Ten and the first starter for him
Speaker 1: at Ohio State was Braxton Miller, running threat obviously twenty
Speaker 1: five touchdowns. He was a Big Ten Player of the
Speaker 1: Year in twelve and thirteen. Uh and then he switched
Speaker 1: a wide receiver later, but in his time, in his
Speaker 1: days in Columbus, he was a quarterback in a big
Speaker 1: threat yeah and and uh then was it Cardel after
Speaker 1: that was in there for in fact Buffalo Bills and
Speaker 1: then got traded to the Chargers. I believe many people
Speaker 1: thought that he had a big arm and had very
Speaker 1: little plane experience at Ohio State prior to entering the
Speaker 1: National Football League. But many viewed him as a as
Speaker 1: a aspect that would just need more time to grow,
Speaker 1: and he hasn't grown yet. J. T. Barrett was part
Speaker 1: of that group as well. He played a short time
Speaker 1: in that championship season where Jones came in at the
Speaker 1: very end and won the national Championship game. Miller was
Speaker 1: the starter and then and then the J. C. Barrett
Speaker 1: was there for a little bit for a month or so,
Speaker 1: he got hurt and then in comes which which which
Speaker 1: is amazing to win a national championship with how many
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks in a season? Pretty good? That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's uh, that's what we call recruiting. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean when you well, yeah, absolutely, in which you
Speaker 1: can do that at the pro game. But it reminds
Speaker 1: me a little bit. And this is obviously a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame coach in the National Football League, and I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to draw the comparison of the two, but
Speaker 1: it's just interesting how you have a college coach that
Speaker 1: won a national championship with three different coaches and one
Speaker 1: or three three different quarterbacks in one season. It's impressive.
Speaker 1: And when you start thinking about has there ever been
Speaker 1: a coach at the NFL level it has been able
Speaker 1: a win with three different quarterbacks in the same season. Uh,
Speaker 1: hey many Now if you want to talk about different seasons,
Speaker 1: Oh sure, Joe Gibbs. I mean he wanted with all
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls with different quarterbacks, you know, so it's
Speaker 1: a little bit different though. Those are those are different
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the season. Now we look at and I
Speaker 1: know you've already started to look at Trevor Lawrence tape
Speaker 1: and that's the player everybody feels that it is probably
Speaker 1: going number one overall. Uh. He's a running threat as
Speaker 1: well at logs and he can use those legs to
Speaker 1: make this kind of thing work. He's a running threat JP.
Speaker 1: But to me, that's where hold early in his career.
Speaker 1: I think he'll lean on that a little bit. But
Speaker 1: I don't see him from watching this film. I don't
Speaker 1: see him is that that's gonna be the mainstay or
Speaker 1: the staple of his game. His arm talent is tremendous.
Speaker 1: He's got really nice anticipation. He has the ability to
Speaker 1: go through progressions. And I've been watching him, uh three
Speaker 1: different nights now, four different nights now, and every everything
Speaker 1: that I watch, you just you sit there and you
Speaker 1: go wow. Um, impressive and I think what I like
Speaker 1: about the most, and I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: the way that the offense is tailor of, this is
Speaker 1: just his nature. He loves to push the ball down
Speaker 1: the field. I mean loves to push it. And that's
Speaker 1: what you'd like to have as a quarterback that can
Speaker 1: push it down the field. But when he when he's
Speaker 1: pushing it down the field, he has the arm strength
Speaker 1: and the armed talent to do that. And you've got
Speaker 1: to have that armed talent to do that at the
Speaker 1: National Football League level because the windows are smaller. College
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. But if you're doing it
Speaker 1: playing and play out a game in and game out
Speaker 1: at the collegiate level, then I think it becomes a
Speaker 1: little bit easier to make that transition to the pro
Speaker 1: game and continue to do that. Something to watch. Well,
Speaker 1: We've got plenty of quarterback discussion ahead in the months
Speaker 1: leading up to the NFL Draft, and we've only just
Speaker 1: begun this is and it hasn't even really begun yet
Speaker 1: because nothing has been officially announced today by the Jaguars
Speaker 1: as of yet. But Urban Meyer is the talk. He
Speaker 1: is in town, he is in the building, and negotiations continue.
Speaker 1: That is the latest reporting that we can send your way.
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Speaker 1: on a day that is not quite official yet, Bucky,
Speaker 1: but those photos on Twitter are certainly official, I'll say that.
Speaker 1: And he's around it in town, and it feels like
Speaker 1: this is coming to a close fairly quick here, Bucky.
Speaker 1: And it feels like, obviously here in town, everybody seems
Speaker 1: to be most everybody is excited about what could be
Speaker 1: this move. Yeah, I think it's a very exciting move.
Speaker 1: I think this move has an opportunity to really reset
Speaker 1: the franchise. Uh. I've always been very, very bullish on
Speaker 1: Urban Mary in Jacksonville. Part of it is because I
Speaker 1: felt like the situation needed a program, build a culture builder,
Speaker 1: someone who could change and give a vision for the
Speaker 1: franchise and everyone could jump on board. And I think
Speaker 1: when you look at Urban Mary and his track record,
Speaker 1: not only what he did at Ohio State in Florida respectively,
Speaker 1: but going all the way back to the success that
Speaker 1: he had a Utah and Bowling Green, this is someone
Speaker 1: who has a proven playing, a proven blueprint. He has
Speaker 1: done it with and without resources, And I think because
Speaker 1: of that, I think he's will equipped to jump into
Speaker 1: this situation and have success at some point. Bucky, with
Speaker 1: with a college coach making the jump to the pro game,
Speaker 1: what what kind of a staff adjustment would you expect,
Speaker 1: you know, the college game being a little bit different
Speaker 1: than the program. Do you do you see Urban leading
Speaker 1: on some key players kind of putting that staff together
Speaker 1: to help make that adjustment to the pro game. Yeah, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I think it's really important that he brings in a
Speaker 1: mix of people. I think he can lean on some
Speaker 1: of his past assistance to kind of help him from
Speaker 1: a cultural standpoint, But the pro game is vastly different
Speaker 1: than the college game, and so he's going to need
Speaker 1: to lean reach out to some NFL guys, guys that
Speaker 1: understand the game, guys that understand how to coach pros
Speaker 1: and bring those guys in. And I think when you
Speaker 1: look at the way Urban typically gets down as a coach,
Speaker 1: he is the CEO type. He's gonna oversee the entire operation.
Speaker 1: He's going to be involved, but I think he's going
Speaker 1: to trust his coaches to coach. I think it's really
Speaker 1: really important with his staff, he has a balance of
Speaker 1: NFL experience with some of the college guys who know
Speaker 1: how he likes to operate a program. And then I
Speaker 1: think that will be the best way for him to
Speaker 1: kind of get this franchise jump started. Lucky Brooks with
Speaker 1: US NFL Network analyst, co host of Wednesday Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 1: calls after love his games, and it might be a
Speaker 1: whole lot better in the future. Moving ahead. UM, So
Speaker 1: we were talking earlier Bucky about the offensive track record
Speaker 1: of Urban Meyer throughout his stops Bowling, Green, Utah, Florida,
Speaker 1: Ohio State, and how that offense really he was a
Speaker 1: big part of the spread coming to college football in
Speaker 1: the early two thousands and the explosion of it at
Speaker 1: Utah and at Florida and now it's moving into the
Speaker 1: NFL game even more so. But he was one of
Speaker 1: those one of the minds that really got this thing
Speaker 1: going and got it off the ground to make it
Speaker 1: and really changed the college football game the last fifteen
Speaker 1: years or so. Yeah, JP and Jeff, I can tell
Speaker 1: you a funny story. I remember as a scout when
Speaker 1: I was working for the Seattle Seahawks. I went to
Speaker 1: Utah and it was his first year at Utah, and
Speaker 1: I'm watching them at practice and it's in August is
Speaker 1: the Militaria camp, and they're doing things that I've never
Speaker 1: seen done before. You have Alex Smith and the shotgun
Speaker 1: executing the zone read plays. You had a wing back
Speaker 1: or WHI receiving named Paris Warren who was coming in
Speaker 1: orbit motion and going behind the tailback and all this
Speaker 1: and they're running triple options stuff, and they're throwing the
Speaker 1: ball all over the yard. And I think what really
Speaker 1: stood out to me was the adaptability, his ability to
Speaker 1: take quarterbacks with different skill sets and find a way
Speaker 1: to be successful. And I heard you guys talking about
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and what he really likes and quarterbacks and having
Speaker 1: a conversation with him earlier this year. What he talked
Speaker 1: about what he really prefers in the quarterback had little
Speaker 1: to do with their physical ability. It's all about, Oh,
Speaker 1: we've lost Bucky. We will get the connection coming back. Bucky.
Speaker 1: You're back with us now. Nope, we'll get Bucky back
Speaker 1: in just a moment. There's quite a cliffhanger from Bucky,
Speaker 1: anxiously awaiting what he was gonna say, But I will
Speaker 1: say that, you know, Urban has done a number of
Speaker 1: the he's obviously a five sports analysts the last couple
Speaker 1: of years and has done a fantastic job on those
Speaker 1: pregame shows before the new kickoffs and and he's been
Speaker 1: around the media the last couple of years especially. But Bucky,
Speaker 1: I think it's back with us now. We lost you
Speaker 1: at the keys to the quarterback position. Before you get
Speaker 1: the keys to the quarterback position for Irvan Meyer, okay so,
Speaker 1: and talking to Urban earlier this year, the intangibles matter
Speaker 1: far more than the armed talent, meaning toughness, competitiveness, leadership ability.
Speaker 1: He will not take a quarterback who doesn't exhibit those traits,
Speaker 1: meaning he has to be the toughest guy. He has
Speaker 1: to be a leader who can express himself vocally, and
Speaker 1: he has to be able to elevate the team. He
Speaker 1: is really big on that part of it. When the
Speaker 1: pieces around you aren't perfect, can you still find a
Speaker 1: way to get the team to the winners circle. Now,
Speaker 1: he'll talk about the athletic component because it does expand
Speaker 1: the playbook and allow you to do more things, But
Speaker 1: really it's about the toughness, the grit, the determination. Can
Speaker 1: this guy be a leader of men? Can he elevate
Speaker 1: the franchise? Think about those traits more than some of
Speaker 1: the physical things that we can tend to get bogged
Speaker 1: down in. Yeah. I think in a perfect world, Bucky,
Speaker 1: he'd like to have all of those traits combined. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can rank them however you want to, And some
Speaker 1: people would view that armed talent is more important than
Speaker 1: anything at the NFL level, But you know, that's an
Speaker 1: argument for an entire show. But with urban Meyer and
Speaker 1: his past health concerns, Uh, have you ever heard or
Speaker 1: do you know of any concern that he would have
Speaker 1: returning to the game and at the pro level, which
Speaker 1: many view is being even maybe more high stressed than
Speaker 1: the college game. Yeah. No, I think that's a really
Speaker 1: valid concern because we've seen how he he lives or
Speaker 1: dies with the wins and losses, and obviously the pro
Speaker 1: game is different. I mean, in in a pro season,
Speaker 1: if you happen to get to twelve and four, that's
Speaker 1: a very successful year, going three and one each quarter,
Speaker 1: and so I will I do believe that will be
Speaker 1: a bit of an adjustment. He's never really experienced, uh,
Speaker 1: losing at a high level, and so it can drag
Speaker 1: him down. Now, hopefully he's been able to manage that
Speaker 1: and do those things. But I think he has to
Speaker 1: come into the Jacksonville situation knowing that he is going
Speaker 1: to experience a little adversity and that he will map
Speaker 1: out a way to help the Jaguars work around that.
Speaker 1: But I do believe the health concerns that we all
Speaker 1: may have about him in the stress level is something
Speaker 1: that we have to worry about, and I think is
Speaker 1: one of maybe the negative factors that skeptics will have
Speaker 1: with urban Meyer joining the franchise Bucky Brooks with us
Speaker 1: NFL network analysts, and that that's why it had to
Speaker 1: be for urban Meyer, and if this thing gets done,
Speaker 1: it has to be the perfect scenario for him. That
Speaker 1: he could basically pick where where was the best set
Speaker 1: up for him or he could have just sat in
Speaker 1: the Fox analyst chair for another three or four years
Speaker 1: and done whatever he wanted to do. So that's part
Speaker 1: of the reason. I think why is the health part.
Speaker 1: But having the football organization a clean slate of sorts.
Speaker 1: We talked about this before, Bucky having that opportunity a
Speaker 1: clean slate organization, it doesn't happen that often in the
Speaker 1: NFL where it's a true clean slate, So it seems
Speaker 1: like this was the perfect opportunity. Yeah, I think this
Speaker 1: gives him the clote, the best opportunity to run what
Speaker 1: he's always familiar with, which is running a program that
Speaker 1: is very similar to Florida and Ohio State. Meaning he's
Speaker 1: at the top, he's the czar. He has the opportunity
Speaker 1: to really reshape the franchise, the way that he sees fit. Uh.
Speaker 1: Some of the things that we will eventually find out
Speaker 1: about him. Big on the sports performance fees, big on
Speaker 1: the nutrition piece, big on mental performance, and doing all
Speaker 1: the things to make sure that the players are in
Speaker 1: the right space when it comes to being a level competitors.
Speaker 1: And so it's important for him to have that. Now.
Speaker 1: It will be a bit of an adjustment because unlike college,
Speaker 1: you're not recruiting, and so the way that you acquire
Speaker 1: and develop players different. But I think his experience at
Speaker 1: Bowling Green and Utah will help him with that because
Speaker 1: this will be more of a developmental program. It will
Speaker 1: be one that I think will skew a little younger
Speaker 1: based on the roster that they have and the players
Speaker 1: that they bring in, and so the development piece will
Speaker 1: be big. But I will say this to the skeptics
Speaker 1: and the naysayers who talk about this coaches not being
Speaker 1: able to get it done, I'm gonna bring out Jim
Speaker 1: Harbaugh's immediate success in San Francisco. Jim Harbaugh took over
Speaker 1: a team in the middle of a lockout where he
Speaker 1: didn't have an off season program, and that year, right
Speaker 1: away they hit the ground running. I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: Jaguars are in a situation like that, but it has
Speaker 1: been done. Matt Rule and what they're doing in Carolina
Speaker 1: when you're rebuilding the culture, the winds didn't necessarily come,
Speaker 1: but the culture has changed and they were extremely competitive.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you have experience and success doing
Speaker 1: these rebuilds multiple times, you have a tried and true
Speaker 1: formula that works. I think it's just about him implementing
Speaker 1: his plan and getting everybody to follow suit and Bucky
Speaker 1: you talk about how you cannot recruit at the pro level,
Speaker 1: but which obviously makes the position of general manager so
Speaker 1: very important because that's the guy that's doing the recruiting
Speaker 1: for you. He's identifying who are going to be the
Speaker 1: a lest type of players. There's been rumors about about
Speaker 1: who might fill that position if, in fact, or a
Speaker 1: Meyer is hired. Uh, what do you see in that
Speaker 1: in that role for the general manager? What type of
Speaker 1: traits were they that person have to have to be
Speaker 1: able to work with an urban Meyer. Well, I think
Speaker 1: the first thing he needs to have is he needs
Speaker 1: to have enough NFL experience to understand the workings of
Speaker 1: how you acquire talent, how you draft talent, how you
Speaker 1: understand and manipulate the waiver y and transactions and all
Speaker 1: of those things. I think it also needs to be
Speaker 1: a forward thinking football mind, meaning they understand today's athlete,
Speaker 1: they understand how to get young guys ready to go,
Speaker 1: and I think they also have to work in lockstep
Speaker 1: in terms of a developmental plan where you're not only
Speaker 1: getting young guys going, but you're giving them opportunities to play.
Speaker 1: We saw how that played out last year, and we
Speaker 1: saw the amount of young players that got onto the field.
Speaker 1: But can you get young guys onto the field and
Speaker 1: help them have a media success. We saw Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: take his experience from USC and have that in Seattle
Speaker 1: where they run a bit of a collegiate program with
Speaker 1: the NFL sauce on top. I think Urban has to
Speaker 1: create a situation like that, and he has to have
Speaker 1: a right hand man that can be to him with
Speaker 1: John Snyder has been to Pete Carroll. Alright, Bucky, if
Speaker 1: if if Urban is in fact named the head coach,
Speaker 1: who do you envision his quarterback being With the first
Speaker 1: overall pick of the draft. It's in fact they take
Speaker 1: one which is still not a done deal. Oh, I
Speaker 1: think it's a donedeal. I think Trevor Lawrence is a guy.
Speaker 1: I think people are going to talk about justin fields,
Speaker 1: but I think Trevor Lawrence exhibits all the qualities that
Speaker 1: he wants in a quarterback. Trevor Lawrence has always been
Speaker 1: a winner, going all the way back to high school
Speaker 1: watching what he was able to do it Clemson. He
Speaker 1: is tough, he's competitive. I think this spring we saw
Speaker 1: his leadership ability kind of really come front when he
Speaker 1: was really involved in not only getting his team to play,
Speaker 1: but also what he did with his teammates in terms
Speaker 1: of uplifting them. I think he is the right guy
Speaker 1: to be the franchise quarterback, and I think he has
Speaker 1: the right stuff to be Urban Meyers quarterback in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: And so I think the excitement that is brimming and
Speaker 1: brewing in Jacksonville is about getting the ultimate QB one
Speaker 1: to go with a head coach who certainly has a
Speaker 1: track record for being able to be successful. You know
Speaker 1: how you can tell Bucky's excited Logs because he's wearing
Speaker 1: that Jaguar shirt today. Nice shirt. Well, ready man, ready
Speaker 1: Loggs knows it's been a long time coming. Man telling
Speaker 1: me win some games. Yeah, it is indeed, Bucky. Appreciate
Speaker 1: your time man on short notice, and we'll talk to
Speaker 1: you again. Suit. I'm sure for sure, Man, be good
Speaker 1: logs to be good JP. Bucky Brooks out of here,
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Speaker 1: us this whole season, and we'll have him a good
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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer watch continues. Nothing official from the Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: as of yet, but the reports have him in the
Speaker 1: building and in town. Of course, the photos you've seen
Speaker 1: on social media today of him stepping off a private
Speaker 1: jet and being escorted in an automobile through the garage
Speaker 1: doors and the loading dock at the stadium earlier today,
Speaker 1: that means he is in the building. The negotiations continue,
Speaker 1: last we have seen, and if anything breaks in the
Speaker 1: next hour fifteen minutes, we will bring it to you
Speaker 1: right here on Jaguars Happy Hour. Interesting stuff from Bucky there.
Speaker 1: He's got some great insight as a former scout and
Speaker 1: has been with the NFL Network for a number of
Speaker 1: years now, and um, you know he's he's bullish on
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and has been for the last to the
Speaker 1: to the Jaguars at least for the last year. So well,
Speaker 1: I look, I I think that there's good reason for that.
Speaker 1: And the big reason, obviously is that he's had great
Speaker 1: success at the college level and and at different levels
Speaker 1: of the college level. And uh and that's a real positive.
Speaker 1: So the greatest chance or the greatest ability to forecast
Speaker 1: somebody's success is to look at past success. And he's
Speaker 1: had great success in football at the collegiate level. And
Speaker 1: can he take it to the pro game If you
Speaker 1: get the right players, he can be wildly successful. Tony
Speaker 1: Vaselli you might have heard of him. He's with us now,
Speaker 1: proud of the Jaguars left Tackle Hall of Fame finalists.
Speaker 1: The vote coming up next week. A lot going on
Speaker 1: the last couple of days around the Jacksonville Jaguars. Today
Speaker 1: is one of those big days. On social media, Tony,
Speaker 1: everybody's following what is going on. Nothing official from the team,
Speaker 1: but he is in the building and negotiations continue. That
Speaker 1: means it's on the doorstep. It feels like Tony, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a hard time believing that this
Speaker 1: thing won't get done at this point. I mean, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocking if I mean, we've come this far
Speaker 1: and they have this much water under the bridge. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't say it's a done deal till
Speaker 1: it's it's finished. But it looks like Eric Meyer is
Speaker 1: gonna be the the next head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: And listen, there's a lot of things you love about this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a firm believer that the head coaching
Speaker 1: position is a leadership position more than the next and
Speaker 1: no position. Um. And if you look at his track record,
Speaker 1: while it's in the in college, no doubt about it. Um,
Speaker 1: his leadership is off this charge and he has his
Speaker 1: had success everywhere and people talk about, well, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: easy to have success in formid ohiuse state because you
Speaker 1: get all the players that you want. UM. While that's true,
Speaker 1: you still have to lead them and put them in
Speaker 1: a position to win. But you can go back to
Speaker 1: Utah undefeated, UM success there, bowling green success there where
Speaker 1: you're not getting the best players. UM. And so I
Speaker 1: think he is a leader. I think he's the right um.
Speaker 1: You know, has that makeup and that you're looking for it.
Speaker 1: And and but there's questions to Jeff brought it up
Speaker 1: being going college to pro that's a transition. Some people
Speaker 1: do it great, So I don't, well, you don't know
Speaker 1: until he actually does it. Obviously, all the reports out
Speaker 1: there about health and stuff something like, I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: fully aware of it's his health. That's something you just
Speaker 1: got to um be aware of. But does that mean
Speaker 1: he can't coach. No, there's a lot of head coaches
Speaker 1: in this leg and trust me that have underlying health
Speaker 1: stuff going on. So UM, I think overall it's a
Speaker 1: pretty exciting um higher. It's a splash higher. Um. It's
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of attention, and it's one of
Speaker 1: those things that, boy, you just hope And I think
Speaker 1: this is what Shod probably saying, I'm gonna go hire
Speaker 1: a guy who's one before it knows what it looks like.
Speaker 1: Um is a one everywhere he's been and as a
Speaker 1: bona fide leader, and see if he can that can
Speaker 1: translate to the NFL, can translate to the Jacksonville Jaguarks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see UM. Nothing officially yet from the team, but yeah,
Speaker 1: the negotiations continue, and it is he's one of the
Speaker 1: all time great college coaches. Tony and that's the thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the third best winning percentage in big
Speaker 1: time major college ball ever, behind Newton Rockney and Frank Lahy.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy has won, and he's won it
Speaker 1: four different, really distinctly different places in college. So he's
Speaker 1: been able to build those programs in in different places,
Speaker 1: in different ways, with different people, and that tells you
Speaker 1: a whole lot. Yeah, the dudes a winner. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, just look at the numbers. I mean you
Speaker 1: can and you hear reports, well he's not well liked
Speaker 1: or it's this or that. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've never met the man. So in my book, you
Speaker 1: get the benefit of the doubt. Goin met each other,
Speaker 1: and um and and and we'll figure that. You figure
Speaker 1: that out what kind of relationship you have with individuals.
Speaker 1: But set all that asign he wins, and he's won everywhere.
Speaker 1: Now it's it's is it different from the NFL to
Speaker 1: the pros? Yes, is he gonna win at the clip
Speaker 1: that he did in college? I hope so, highly doubtful.
Speaker 1: The NFL is a different game because you don't wake
Speaker 1: up and you have better talent than you know the
Speaker 1: teams on your schedule it's not like that. But he's
Speaker 1: won in big games. He's one in BCS, he went
Speaker 1: through the playoffs. I mean, every every challenge has been
Speaker 1: put in front of the Urban Meyers. From a football standpoint,
Speaker 1: he's been wildly successful. And like I said a second ago,
Speaker 1: you just the reason you hire him is because you
Speaker 1: were betting the house that it translates where he did
Speaker 1: in college to the NFL Tony. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any doubt that that when urban Meyer would walk in
Speaker 1: front of a team, a pro team, this team, that
Speaker 1: there would be instant credibility just because of what he's
Speaker 1: been able to accomplish at all of his previous stops.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if he hasn't played or won
Speaker 1: a game at the pro level. And I think that's
Speaker 1: obviously a big battle, is being able to have credibility
Speaker 1: in front of a football team. Now you obviously have
Speaker 1: to do things to to maintain that going forward, but
Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of it. And with
Speaker 1: that being said, the next step, obviously, if you hire
Speaker 1: in fact, then the inc is drive with urban Meyer.
Speaker 1: The next step obviously he's finding elenimal manager and obviously
Speaker 1: that is critically important to any coaches success at the
Speaker 1: National Football League level, you know, and I think it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be I don't want to say more important
Speaker 1: because Urban obviously, you know, he's procured players at the
Speaker 1: call from high school of college and you've got to
Speaker 1: do the work and be organized and all that um.
Speaker 1: But you want to make sure you're the right person
Speaker 1: because listen, Urban is gonna be running the show. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's don't make no let's not make you know, let's
Speaker 1: make no bones about it. I mean, he doesn't take
Speaker 1: this job lest it's clear that he is in charge
Speaker 1: of the football side, and so you have to find
Speaker 1: the right GM who understands his role and says, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: my job is to make Urban great. My job is
Speaker 1: to manage the rest of the building so he focuses
Speaker 1: on football and everything else, and to make him great,
Speaker 1: and to find the players that fit the systems that
Speaker 1: that whoever his offensive parinator is gonna be and whoever
Speaker 1: his defensive coordinators. You find the right people, and you
Speaker 1: have to do it in a in a manner that's collaborative.
Speaker 1: So it's really important that GM has leadership in like
Speaker 1: the way I would say best because I think this
Speaker 1: is what is it is really servant leadership. Your job
Speaker 1: is to make sure Urban has the tools that he
Speaker 1: needs and to make sure it's the type of players
Speaker 1: he wants to fit the scheme and to manage all
Speaker 1: this stuff around him. So, UM, you gotta find the
Speaker 1: right guy, and uh, it'll be interesting. My guess is
Speaker 1: Urban's gonna weigh in on that. I mean, they're probably
Speaker 1: gonna unless there's something going on that we don't know about,
Speaker 1: or maybe they take one of the guys they've already
Speaker 1: interviewed um and make them the gym. But it's definitely
Speaker 1: something that I would bet a lot of money Jeff
Speaker 1: that Urban is weighing it heavily on who the GM is.
Speaker 1: And the reports today tell me that Trent Balky has
Speaker 1: been involved in the process. That has been at least
Speaker 1: reported today by a couple of different outlets. So we'll
Speaker 1: see what the days ahead hold in that regard. I
Speaker 1: know what the days ahead hold for you. How nervous
Speaker 1: are you for the vote this year? The Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame votes coming up next week? Yeah, if I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about it because it's know, you know,
Speaker 1: you get remember Jeff, As a player, you have that
Speaker 1: internal clock, like you know, when training camp starts, you
Speaker 1: start getting like feel allousy because you know camp stuff coming,
Speaker 1: they're hit. In the regular season, your body is a
Speaker 1: tune to win. The game's gonna be played. Well, this
Speaker 1: is the fifth year I've done this, and so the
Speaker 1: last four, like you get used to the like the
Speaker 1: cadence of what happens, Like you fly to the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: you do all the work up and then the nerve
Speaker 1: starts kicking in as you get closer to the Saturday
Speaker 1: before um Super Bowl. And so this year it's completely different.
Speaker 1: I think they're voting h five days from now. I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, and and so it's not that i've I'm
Speaker 1: very aware, but it's not top of mind because I'm
Speaker 1: used to, like I really start thinking about when I
Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl. So um, outside of people
Speaker 1: like you JP bringing up and asking me, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things that this is the
Speaker 1: fifth year I've been in this position. I obviously hope
Speaker 1: I make it. I mean, my goodness, um more than
Speaker 1: any I mean as much as anything. But I have
Speaker 1: no control over they're gonna vote. I don't even know
Speaker 1: when they're telling us, I don't know how they're telling
Speaker 1: us the hell of famous let us know that at all.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm getting the calls, you know,
Speaker 1: the nineteenth night. I don't know if they're waiting until
Speaker 1: the week of the Super Bowl to tell us. Unless
Speaker 1: you got JP, you probably know more than I do
Speaker 1: at that about I don't. That's That's why I was
Speaker 1: interested in your take on it. But I know it's
Speaker 1: different this year in the COVID world. So all that now,
Speaker 1: you final thought here with you, Tony. You got a
Speaker 1: game this weekend on Westwood. What you got? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got I'm doing the uh, in my opinion, the best
Speaker 1: game of the weekend. Um and because as the most
Speaker 1: I think it's the greatest storyline around the Saints and
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. I mean, you have Drew Brades is probably retiring,
Speaker 1: and you have the greatest quarterback of all time who
Speaker 1: is defying Father Time and Tom Brady. So uh yeah.
Speaker 1: I fly out to New Orleans on on Saturday. It's
Speaker 1: the Sunday game and I'm looking forward to it. Cannot
Speaker 1: wait to watch those two teams play. I mean, the
Speaker 1: Saints beat him twice. Um. Second Time handidly beat them
Speaker 1: pretty easily. Um, but the Buccanteers are playing really good
Speaker 1: football right now offensively. That Saints defense is good. Uh,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how Drew Brees did. I
Speaker 1: didn't think he looked great last week. Um, you can
Speaker 1: tell he's you know, father time is catching up with
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, unlike Tom Brading's beating him off. But I
Speaker 1: can't wait to do it, just to see those two
Speaker 1: guys go at it. Um, two good, really good head
Speaker 1: coaches on the offensive side of the ball. And Bruce
Speaker 1: arians Sean Payton got two good defenses, you know, with
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen's done and Todd Bowls for the Buccaneers, I
Speaker 1: mean some of the better defenses. I think it's a
Speaker 1: fabulous matchup with a lot of the storylines. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: since it's gonna be a fabulous matchup, give us a prediction.
Speaker 1: Who you who you think is gonna win? Boy, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I just get a sense that I think the Bucks
Speaker 1: are gonna pull it off. And that makes no I mean,
Speaker 1: if you look at the last two games, you'd say, well,
Speaker 1: why are you saying that? I mean the Staints have
Speaker 1: dominated them. Um, I think I think the Bucketeers are
Speaker 1: playing better and better each week. I think of offensively, um,
Speaker 1: they're really explosive, and I just I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: many I don't know how many points the Saints can
Speaker 1: put up on the board against the Bucks defense. So
Speaker 1: um to say that though I picked them last time,
Speaker 1: I picked the Bucks to be in the last matchup
Speaker 1: because I thought they were playing well, and the Saints
Speaker 1: blew them out. So I think it's a close game.
Speaker 1: But if I had the bet, probably lead towards the Bucks.
Speaker 1: All right, Tony, Um, thanks for your time, short notice.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, and and and whenever this is final, I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll do more shows like this. So we're waiting.
Speaker 1: We'll all wait and see. It's like waiting for the
Speaker 1: you know, remember when they choose the new pope in
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church, you wait for the white smoke to
Speaker 1: come out of the Vatican. I think we're all waiting
Speaker 1: for the white smoke right now. I have a good one, Tony.
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli prior to the Jaguars left tackle out of here.
Speaker 1: And you know, this is a fun day and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun week for him, hopefully, hopefully, that
Speaker 1: vote comes through for him next week. That would be nice.
Speaker 1: He look, uh, I got firsthand experienced to to go
Speaker 1: against Tony and and I don't think there's any question
Speaker 1: because I went against a lot of other guys that
Speaker 1: are in the Hall of Fame and played that played
Speaker 1: left tackle, and and Tony, I think it is better
Speaker 1: than just about every one of them, to be perfectly
Speaker 1: honest with you, So it would be a tragedy for
Speaker 1: him not to get in. But there are a lot
Speaker 1: of really good players on that list, JP. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to argue, uh, that that some of
Speaker 1: these other guys on the list don't deserve to get
Speaker 1: in as well. And that's the great thing is that
Speaker 1: you're in the conversation and and clearly all these guys
Speaker 1: are great players. They are and let's just hopefully we
Speaker 1: can put that to bed five days from now and
Speaker 1: you know, enjoy it with him and move on about
Speaker 1: our lives here now. Of course, today it's Urban Meyer watch.
Speaker 1: He is in the building, he is negotiating, and that
Speaker 1: there's nothing official yet from the Jacksonville Jaguars organization. We've
Speaker 1: seen the photos and the video work following him around
Speaker 1: town all day to day after his arrival, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: And coming up, we've got an hour on the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: if anything breaks in that sixty minute period, we'll bring
Speaker 1: it to you live right here on this program. A
Speaker 1: lot of excited folks today logs and rightly so, well,
Speaker 1: I think that that it's good reason because you're talking
Speaker 1: about bringing one of the most successful coaches of all
Speaker 1: time at the collegiate level into your your team, and
Speaker 1: your team hasn't experienced a lot of winning. So the
Speaker 1: first thought is, this team is gonna win now they
Speaker 1: got they got a coach, and they're gonna get a
Speaker 1: quarterback and things are going to be different. And hope
Speaker 1: is a beautiful thing. Jaj it is, it is, indeed,
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