WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, January 14 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:10.399 It is Thursday, January fourteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.760 Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by the c s I Companies. 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.400 And now a guy who was once actually photographed getting 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:27.400 off an airplane j P. It wasn't a plane like 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.560 that though. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by the 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:36.600 c s I Companies, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Loghman, Bucky Brooks. 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.040 Coming up, We've got a big show today as urban 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:45.040 Meyer Watch continues. Nothing official from the Jaguars as of yet, 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:50.200 but plenty of media reports and photographs at certain air 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:55.560 fields of a certain former college head coach in town today. 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.280 We'll discuss it all coming up. Talk of facilities upgrades 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.480 as part of that. Part of the reporting today involved 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:08.000 in Urban Meyer's uh conversations with the Jaguars could be 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.880 of facilities upgrades, staffing reports who could be on the 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.760 coaching staff. And then we have a second hour of 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.920 Jaguars Happy Hour on the network at five o'clock today. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.240 Jeff Loghman in with us. And a lot going on 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.280 around Jacksonville today and a lot of it has to 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:28.440 do with a former bowling green Utah, Florida, Ohio state 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.959 head coach. You mean the guy that's one everywhere, has 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.640 been everywhere. Yeah, that's pretty good, right. I mean, he's 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.440 one of the most successful college coaches of all time, 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:41.360 as record supports that. And when you're an organization that 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.960 has not been able to change the culture and become 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.120 a winner, then you try to find somebody that can 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.720 change that culture. And does Urban Meyer fit that billion Absolutely. 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.360 You gotta have, I think with the head coach, great 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.360 leadership ability, and he clearly has that, otherwise he would 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:01.120 not have the broad success that he's had at different 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.400 levels of program. And you're talking about Florida that was 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.880 a pretty much a perennial winner, and he brought him 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.880 back to sustain winning. He built the program in Bowling 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.480 Green that was jp it was Bowling Green right for 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:19.000 heaven's sake, and winning there and then goes to Ohio 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.200 State and re establishes Ohio State as part of the 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.080 national championship conversation year in a year out. So he's 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.239 had great success and and I hope he can bring 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.480 the same to here. And I hope he's tired. Let's hope. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.040 So obviously with the media reports today and the cameras 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:41.600 following around he's around the building, and from the last reports, 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:46.120 the negotiations continue, but he's around. I'll say that. Well, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.680 I mean, nothing's done until it's done. You know, the 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.440 inks you gotta get get dry. But he's not here 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.440 for no reason. So it's not a joy ride today. Yeah, 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.560 you know. But then again, like I said, until the 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.520 inc is dry, you never know. And and it's so 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.560 I think there will be I think a little bit 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:10.280 of I don't want to say a split emotion about 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.200 the hiring of Urban because there's a lot of Florida 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.040 fans that weren't happy when he left Florida, but if 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.800 he were still at Florida, they would love him probably. 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.320 I mean, so, I think there's gonna be a segment 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.480 of people that that are going to be like, oh, Urban, no, 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.440 we don't want him. But then I think the majority 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.200 of the people are going to recognize that he's one 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.600 of the best coaches in football and are gonna be 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:33.600 extremely excited to have him. Thirty two is a head 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.400 coach the third best winning percentage in major college football history, 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:44.200 trailing only Newt Rockney and Frank Lahy, which is amazing 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:49.680 win percentage, and with saying that it's also a different 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:53.680 game in the pros, and that you you cannot out 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:58.280 recruit in the pros. You have salary cap constraints. It's 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.440 a it's a little different game, but it's still once 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.440 you strip away a lot of the differences, it's still 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:09.320 football at its core. And football needs great leadership and 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.640 uh and I think that he can provide that. And 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.880 and so I think it's gonna be if, if it happened, 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.080 I think it's gonna make the Jaguars a part of 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:21.080 the conversation with Urban Meyers the coach. But then you 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.200 have to be able to make the Jaguars a part 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.240 of the conversation because you're winning. After that point, I 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.120 gotta win. And you know, this is one of those 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.400 It feels like somebody saw everybody's been following Twitter today, 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.160 of course, and everything that's been going on around this, 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.520 and somebody made a good point today that I saw it. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.280 Kind of I think it was Daniel Jeremiah. Actually, um, 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.000 I mean it wasn't me. No, it wasn't you, because 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.120 you're such a prolific tweeter. Let me tell you, I'm 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.480 pretty pressed, right, he said, it felt to him almost 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.520 like a Jimmy Johnson to the Cowboys moment because that 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.960 was almost a clean slate. They did a bunch of 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.680 drafting and really started from the bottom in Dallas to 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.120 build that thing up. And that's what it feels like 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.680 is gonna happen here because the first overall pick, new coach, 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.000 new GM coming in UH, an owner that wants to 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.240 spend and do it the right way. It has that feeling. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.240 I think Daniel made a pretty good point. I think 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.360 it's a good point, and and I was fortunate enough 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.279 to be able to kind of watch the Jimmy Johnson 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.160 to Dallas kind of thing, UH with a little bit 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.360 of a front row seat because when I was a 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.240 player at the East West Shrine Game, Jimmy Johnson at 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:33.440 that time was the coach of the Miami Hurricanes, and 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.400 so he was one of our all star coaches then. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.600 And eventually he gets hired soon after that to become 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.640 the coach for Jerry Jones, the new owner of the 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:44.120 Dallas Cowboys, and Jerry I thought made a great decision 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.839 highing Jimmy Johnson, and Jimmy changed the culture. I got 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:48.560 a lot of good friends that played for Jimmy in 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.800 those early years. Mark Stepanowski, Darryl Johnston. I mean, they 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:56.000 all rave about about Jimmy Johnson, and uh, he didn't 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:57.480 have a lot of draft picks when he walked in 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.400 the door. He garnered quite a few of them because 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.560 they were able to trade herschel Walker, which was a 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.559 huge blockbuster trade which allowed the Dallas Cowboys to really 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.760 select players to help them win. That gave Jimmy a 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.560 little bit of an advantage because if you go back 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.600 and you look at the the players that he picked 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.159 with the with the picks that were acquired from the 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.880 herschel Walker trade, it was it was literally cornerstone type 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.480 player after cornerstone type player, and that made a big 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.159 difference in the success of the Dallas Cowboys. So this 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.520 offseason and building the base of the organization and free 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:32.400 agency in the draft obviously quite important. Again, nothing official 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.159 yet from the Jaguars today on Urban Meyer, but he 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:39.599 is around. Negotiations continue, That's what has been reported. That's 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.960 what is happening, and we're discussing it here on Jaguars 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.440 Happy Hour presented by the c s I Companies. You know, 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.080 the College spro thing. We've seen it works some for 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.719 some guys and not work so well for others. Um, 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.120 there's only been three coaches that have won a national 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.359 championship and a Super Bowl. Jimmy Johnson's one of those, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.320 Barry Switzer is another, and then He Carroll is the third. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.600 And some would say that Barry Switzer doesn't really count 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.640 because he won it with Jimmy's team, but I mean, 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.239 the simple fact is he did win it, and Pete 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.600 Carroll was able to do it. So it hasn't been 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:15.920 there hasn't been a lot that have done it. But 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:17.840 I think the most important thing is that if you 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.000 look at the former college coaches that have made I 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.880 mean I'm talking about really good former college coaches that 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.600 have made the move to the NFL, there may not 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:30.680 have been these this great success rate, but here's the thing, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.080 there hasn't been a large failure rate. I mean, if 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.920 you look at it from that standpoint, because the reality 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.320 is is that it's also about the Jimmy's and the 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.160 Joe's as well as the xs and os and coaching matters. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.360 But you still have to have the top shelf players 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.000 to be able to help get you to that type 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:51.360 of performance. And so herban Meyer is just like any 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.760 other coach, and from the standpoint of he needs to 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.320 have good players to win, and I think there are 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.640 coaches that can have good players and they don't win, 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:02.200 And I don't think Urban Meyer is going to be 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.720 anywhere close to that. So, and here's the other thing, JP, 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.800 why wouldn't you want to have one of the most 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:14.800 successful college coaches of all time and find out if 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:19.920 he can transfer that success to the pro game. For me, 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.000 it's a it's a lot better when you're trying to 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.440 do it from the standpoint of, Hey, we want to 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:30.320 establish winning quickly and winning quickly now to say, let's 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.040 take it's not as much of a leap of faith 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:34.600 to do it with a guy like a Ramier who 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.680 has proven that he's done it at the collegiate level 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.920 as it is per se trying to do it with 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.959 all these hot assistant coaches in the National Football League 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.560 that are considered hot commodities. I think that's uh would 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.000 be a very tough thing to do and try to 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.120 forecast success with some of those guys that are position 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.480 coaches or coordinators now at some other NFL team, thinking 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.600 that they can be had or have the great success 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.480 that Urban Myers ad at the pro game. Urban, of course, 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.040 one of the innovative offensive minds in college football over 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:11.520 the last years or so, starting that spread offense, really 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.960 growing it and developing it into a system that took 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.960 over the SEC in Florida and then spread out to 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.480 other places in college football. And now it's it's creeping 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.120 into the NFL, which is you know, in the old days, 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.480 you'd think, okay, NFL pro style, if you have this 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.559 kind of quarterback, it won't work in the NFL. Well, 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.480 now you have entire organizations that are shifting over to 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.440 college philosophies that are now creeping into the NFL. More 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.000 and more and more teams are are using a lot 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.920 of the things that he was doing about fifteen years ago, 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.000 a lot of a lot of the same type of stuff. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.200 And here here's the crazy thing. For for a long time, 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:51.160 it was it was thought that the college stuff couldn't 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.680 be applied to the National Football League because you have 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.400 to have a running quarterback, because that's the entire basis 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.040 of the system that you see in college, and that 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:05.400 the quarterback can be a dominant threat as a runner. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.760 It's a numbers game to write a number of the 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:11.280 defense as the quarterback instead of now just being ignored 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.240 now has to be counted as a potential ball carrier, 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:18.160 which allows one other person that's not carrying the ball 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.679 to be a blocker. And that's where the numbers game is. 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:25.160 And heck, if if Nick Foles is still running some 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.720 of the read option and Nick Foles might be the 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.880 absolute opposite of what you would think might be able 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.240 to run or to be a running quarterback. If he 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.040 can do it, and the principles are working for a 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.520 guy like a Nick Foles or even uh for example, 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.480 or Tom Brady who fakes a handoff and it's a 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.360 read option type principle, it can work for anybody. Really. 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.360 We know that Tom Brady is not going to run anywhere, 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.680 but that's a little bit of an exaggeration. But you 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.160 get my point, and that you don't have to have 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.480 Lamar Jackson to run some of these college principles and 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.200 make them success at the NFL level. NFL coaches have 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.680 taken it and applied it at the NFL level, and 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.280 they've also done it a little differently, and that they're 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.360 obviously the quarterbacks not keeping the ball as much, but 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.360 the threat still exists that the quarterback can run the football. 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.920 Curious to see obviously that the coaching staff around if 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.640 urban Meyer is finalized at some point either today tomorrow, 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.720 the coaching staff that he would decide to bring in 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.560 with him. There are reports of on the defensive side 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.880 of the ball already of Charlie Strong, maybe as a 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.640 defensive coach of some kind. They haven't really reported what. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.440 I haven't seen many offensive names links yet, but I'm curious, 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.280 you know, would he have a play caller, would he 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.160 be involved in that or is he more of a 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.880 CEO type? And I think we'd find out a whole 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.000 lot more whenever it's announced and whenever he speaks to 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.680 the media for the first time. Yeah, that's uh, let's 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.000 get to the point where it's announced first, and that's right, 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.079 and we can we can speculate all day and as 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.720 people have been speculating about that, I don't think it's 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.000 very productive. But but I do know that the college 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.920 game is different than the progame. The playbook for colleges 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.160 maybe that thick, and I'm basically putting my two fingers 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.240 together for those on radio, about half an inch part, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.840 whereas the pro game it might be two inches thick. 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.040 And so it's a little bit different. I think that 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.680 the coverages are a little bit more sophisticated, and for 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.920 a couple of reasons. For for one, this is a job, 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.040 and you can expect players at the NFL level to 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.320 assimilate the information and uh and be ready to go 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.800 with it. And because it's their job, that's the only 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.199 thing they're studying. They're not having to worry about biochemistry 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.480 or calculus, or anthropology or JP in your case, the 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.640 history of art or the history of circuits. You know 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.040 those classes you talk Alabama, so uh, you know what 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:38.600 I mean. And so that now they can just read 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.239 a playbook. But it's definitely a little bit more complex 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.760 and and there's a lot more put on quarterbacks at 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.600 the National Football League level, at least the ones that 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.720 have been wildly successful. We've got plenty of show ahead, 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.200 of course, another forty five minutes to sell in this 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.000 program than another hour of Jaguars Happy Hour at five 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.400 o'clock on the network. Bucky Brooks will joined us at 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.800 four thirty today NFL Network analysts in our cost on 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.960 the regular season Wednesday Jaguars Happy Hours and postgame Radio. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.439 He'll join us to give us his thoughts on urban 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.880 Meyer and the prospects of him coming to Jacksonville and 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.400 what that can do for the organization. Tony Boselli at 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.200 four five schedule to join us and plenty more ahead, 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:23.400 including quarterback talk. We'll get into urban Meyer's history of 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:27.439 quarterbacks in college football. It is varied and he's had 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.120 some success with some guys. 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If you followed social 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.959 media today, you probably saw some photographs of him stepping 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.480 off a private jet at the Cecil Airport on the 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:32.800 west side of town. He is apparently in negotiations with 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.280 the Jaguars as we speak, and if anything breaks in 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.400 the next hour and twenty minutes, our hour and forty minutes. Rather, 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.840 we will bring it to you live right here on 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:46.119 Jaguars Happy Hour logs. We promised quarterback talk, and of 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.760 course many people feel that the Jaguars will draft a 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:55.080 quarterback first overall this year. I think you probably. I 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.199 wonder why, and I wonder who it might be. But um, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.280 since we're discussing urban Meyer here today, we need to 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:05.359 go through urban Meyer's history of quarterbacks in college, considering 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.520 the system that he had really kind of developed and 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:13.760 used over his college time there, and it seems to 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.159 have a similar feel for a lot of these guys 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.360 because of the offense and the way they have to run. 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.560 At Josh Harris at Bowling Green. I must say I 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.520 did not remember Josh Harris at Bowling Green. I didn't 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.040 watch a lot of Bowling Green and No one O 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.280 two me either. But he was a six round picked 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.400 by Baltimore in two thousand four and was three seasons 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.760 in the NFL and the CFL. Apparently then Alex Smith, Utah. 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.400 Alex Smith's star really rose in Salt Lake in the 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.359 time that he was under urban Meyer, and he was 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.040 the first overall pick. That's one of the big reasons 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.840 why is the great success that Urban had with him 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.240 at at the school. And that's Alex Smith. You know 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:55.480 Alex Smith would would you consider him a runner? Well? Uh, 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.760 in in those days, yes, in those days he kind 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:00.440 of had to do some of that. I don't think 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.840 he's a sprinter, so he's not. I mean he's not 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:06.720 Tim Tebow. He was running enough. He's an offense Lamar 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.720 Jackson or Michael Vick. But I mean he ran enough 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:12.280 exactly to make that offense work. And that's the importance 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.480 is that you don't have to be uh dynamic and 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.160 a home run threat every time you touch the ball. 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:18.920 But you gotta be a threat. You gotta be a threat, 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.639 and you have to make proper decisions as well. I 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.440 mean that's a quarterback decision. Offense. You're reading and reacting 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.440 and if you make the wrong move, the play gets 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:28.960 blown up. Yeah. The one the one thing is for 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:33.719 certain that because we're talking about the the potential of 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:37.479 of a Urban Meyer type of an offense in the NFL, 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.360 and I think there will be changes to a lot 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:40.600 of that. I think I think a lot of it 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.679 will adapt to to the NFL game and will a 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:48.200 quarterback be a running threat. If he's the head coach here, 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.040 I think that he will absolutely be a threat. But 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.840 I think all the reality is in the National Football League, 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.560 you don't want to get your quarterback hit if you 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.520 don't have to get your quarterback hit, because this is 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.240 a position that if you get the right one and 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.880 he's allowed to grow and allowed to stay healthy. Look 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:06.680 at Tom Brady, look at Drew Brees. You think Tom 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.400 Brady Drew Brees would have lasted as long as they 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.760 did if they were these read option type quarterbacks at 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.800 the NFL level. I don't think so. Some other quarterbacks 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:19.479 in urban Meyer's past, Chris Leak at Florida, he was 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:24.000 inherited when Urban showed up in Gainesville. He wasn't a 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.720 exceptional runner, so he wasn't the great fit. But then 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:31.040 Tim Tebow was. He was the ideal football player for 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:34.479 what they were doing in Gainesville. Yeah, and and uh Tim, 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.560 when you hear him talk about urban Meyer, I mean 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:42.080 he raves about urban Meyer and uh so interesting and 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:46.199 that that you know. And Tim, I think is one 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:48.480 of the great college football players of all time. And 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:50.640 when he speaks highly of a coach like he has 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.200 about urban Meyer. I think that speaks a lot of 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:57.800 volumes for for urban Meyer, and Tim obviously was not 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:03.240 his game wasn't really meant for the National Football League, 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.040 which also shows that you know, you've got to have 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.000 a quarterback that can throw it, that can read it 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.320 and uh and go through progressions and and that's not 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:13.200 what Tim had. So Urban mars is obviously going to 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:15.040 be wanting a quarterback that can do some of those 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.600 things that Tim could not at the pro level. Then 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.680 we go on to Columbus when urban Meyer came back 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:24.880 into the Big Ten and the first starter for him 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:29.399 at Ohio State was Braxton Miller, running threat obviously twenty 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:31.040 five touchdowns. He was a Big Ten Player of the 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:34.320 Year in twelve and thirteen. Uh and then he switched 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.639 a wide receiver later, but in his time, in his 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:38.640 days in Columbus, he was a quarterback in a big 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.240 threat yeah and and uh then was it Cardel after 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.800 that was in there for in fact Buffalo Bills and 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.040