1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, January fourteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 2 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by the c s I Companies. 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: And now a guy who was once actually photographed getting 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: off an airplane j P. It wasn't a plane like 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: that though. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by the 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: c s I Companies, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Loghman, Bucky Brooks. 7 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Coming up, We've got a big show today as urban 8 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Meyer Watch continues. Nothing official from the Jaguars as of yet, 9 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: but plenty of media reports and photographs at certain air 10 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: fields of a certain former college head coach in town today. 11 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: We'll discuss it all coming up. Talk of facilities upgrades 12 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: as part of that. Part of the reporting today involved 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: in Urban Meyer's uh conversations with the Jaguars could be 14 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: of facilities upgrades, staffing reports who could be on the 15 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: coaching staff. And then we have a second hour of 16 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the network at five o'clock today. 17 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Loghman in with us. And a lot going on 18 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: around Jacksonville today and a lot of it has to 19 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: do with a former bowling green Utah, Florida, Ohio state 20 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: head coach. You mean the guy that's one everywhere, has 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: been everywhere. Yeah, that's pretty good, right. I mean, he's 22 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: one of the most successful college coaches of all time, 23 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: as record supports that. And when you're an organization that 24 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: has not been able to change the culture and become 25 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: a winner, then you try to find somebody that can 26 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: change that culture. And does Urban Meyer fit that billion Absolutely. 27 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: You gotta have, I think with the head coach, great 28 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: leadership ability, and he clearly has that, otherwise he would 29 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: not have the broad success that he's had at different 30 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: levels of program. And you're talking about Florida that was 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: a pretty much a perennial winner, and he brought him 32 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: back to sustain winning. He built the program in Bowling 33 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: Green that was jp it was Bowling Green right for 34 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: heaven's sake, and winning there and then goes to Ohio 35 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: State and re establishes Ohio State as part of the 36 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: national championship conversation year in a year out. So he's 37 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: had great success and and I hope he can bring 38 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: the same to here. And I hope he's tired. Let's hope. 39 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: So obviously with the media reports today and the cameras 40 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: following around he's around the building, and from the last reports, 41 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: the negotiations continue, but he's around. I'll say that. Well, 42 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean, nothing's done until it's done. You know, the 43 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: inks you gotta get get dry. But he's not here 44 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: for no reason. So it's not a joy ride today. Yeah, 45 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: you know. But then again, like I said, until the 46 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: inc is dry, you never know. And and it's so 47 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: I think there will be I think a little bit 48 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: of I don't want to say a split emotion about 49 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: the hiring of Urban because there's a lot of Florida 50 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: fans that weren't happy when he left Florida, but if 51 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: he were still at Florida, they would love him probably. 52 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean, so, I think there's gonna be a segment 53 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: of people that that are going to be like, oh, Urban, no, 54 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: we don't want him. But then I think the majority 55 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: of the people are going to recognize that he's one 56 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: of the best coaches in football and are gonna be 57 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: extremely excited to have him. Thirty two is a head 58 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: coach the third best winning percentage in major college football history, 59 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: trailing only Newt Rockney and Frank Lahy, which is amazing 60 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: win percentage, and with saying that it's also a different 61 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: game in the pros, and that you you cannot out 62 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: recruit in the pros. You have salary cap constraints. It's 63 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: a it's a little different game, but it's still once 64 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: you strip away a lot of the differences, it's still 65 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: football at its core. And football needs great leadership and 66 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: uh and I think that he can provide that. And 67 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: and so I think it's gonna be if, if it happened, 68 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna make the Jaguars a part of 69 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: the conversation with Urban Meyers the coach. But then you 70 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: have to be able to make the Jaguars a part 71 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: of the conversation because you're winning. After that point, I 72 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: gotta win. And you know, this is one of those 73 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: It feels like somebody saw everybody's been following Twitter today, 74 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: of course, and everything that's been going on around this, 75 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: and somebody made a good point today that I saw it. 76 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: Kind of I think it was Daniel Jeremiah. Actually, um, 77 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't me. No, it wasn't you, because 78 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: you're such a prolific tweeter. Let me tell you, I'm 79 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: pretty pressed, right, he said, it felt to him almost 80 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: like a Jimmy Johnson to the Cowboys moment because that 81 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: was almost a clean slate. They did a bunch of 82 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: drafting and really started from the bottom in Dallas to 83 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: build that thing up. And that's what it feels like 84 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: is gonna happen here because the first overall pick, new coach, 85 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: new GM coming in UH, an owner that wants to 86 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: spend and do it the right way. It has that feeling. 87 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: I think Daniel made a pretty good point. I think 88 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: it's a good point, and and I was fortunate enough 89 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: to be able to kind of watch the Jimmy Johnson 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: to Dallas kind of thing, UH with a little bit 91 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: of a front row seat because when I was a 92 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: player at the East West Shrine Game, Jimmy Johnson at 93 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: that time was the coach of the Miami Hurricanes, and 94 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: so he was one of our all star coaches then. 95 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: And eventually he gets hired soon after that to become 96 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: the coach for Jerry Jones, the new owner of the 97 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and Jerry I thought made a great decision 98 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: highing Jimmy Johnson, and Jimmy changed the culture. I got 99 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: a lot of good friends that played for Jimmy in 100 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: those early years. Mark Stepanowski, Darryl Johnston. I mean, they 101 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: all rave about about Jimmy Johnson, and uh, he didn't 102 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: have a lot of draft picks when he walked in 103 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: the door. He garnered quite a few of them because 104 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: they were able to trade herschel Walker, which was a 105 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: huge blockbuster trade which allowed the Dallas Cowboys to really 106 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: select players to help them win. That gave Jimmy a 107 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: little bit of an advantage because if you go back 108 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: and you look at the the players that he picked 109 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: with the with the picks that were acquired from the 110 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: herschel Walker trade, it was it was literally cornerstone type 111 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: player after cornerstone type player, and that made a big 112 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: difference in the success of the Dallas Cowboys. So this 113 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: offseason and building the base of the organization and free 114 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: agency in the draft obviously quite important. Again, nothing official 115 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: yet from the Jaguars today on Urban Meyer, but he 116 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: is around. Negotiations continue, That's what has been reported. That's 117 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: what is happening, and we're discussing it here on Jaguars 118 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Happy Hour presented by the c s I Companies. You know, 119 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: the College spro thing. We've seen it works some for 120 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: some guys and not work so well for others. Um, 121 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: there's only been three coaches that have won a national 122 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: championship and a Super Bowl. Jimmy Johnson's one of those, 123 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: Barry Switzer is another, and then He Carroll is the third. 124 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: And some would say that Barry Switzer doesn't really count 125 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: because he won it with Jimmy's team, but I mean, 126 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: the simple fact is he did win it, and Pete 127 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: Carroll was able to do it. So it hasn't been 128 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: there hasn't been a lot that have done it. But 129 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: I think the most important thing is that if you 130 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: look at the former college coaches that have made I 131 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: mean I'm talking about really good former college coaches that 132 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: have made the move to the NFL, there may not 133 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: have been these this great success rate, but here's the thing, 134 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: there hasn't been a large failure rate. I mean, if 135 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: you look at it from that standpoint, because the reality 136 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: is is that it's also about the Jimmy's and the 137 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: Joe's as well as the xs and os and coaching matters. 138 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: But you still have to have the top shelf players 139 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: to be able to help get you to that type 140 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: of performance. And so herban Meyer is just like any 141 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: other coach, and from the standpoint of he needs to 142 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: have good players to win, and I think there are 143 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: coaches that can have good players and they don't win, 144 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: And I don't think Urban Meyer is going to be 145 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: anywhere close to that. So, and here's the other thing, JP, 146 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want to have one of the most 147 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: successful college coaches of all time and find out if 148 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: he can transfer that success to the pro game. For me, 149 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: it's a it's a lot better when you're trying to 150 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: do it from the standpoint of, Hey, we want to 151 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: establish winning quickly and winning quickly now to say, let's 152 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: take it's not as much of a leap of faith 153 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: to do it with a guy like a Ramier who 154 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: has proven that he's done it at the collegiate level 155 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: as it is per se trying to do it with 156 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: all these hot assistant coaches in the National Football League 157 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: that are considered hot commodities. I think that's uh would 158 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: be a very tough thing to do and try to 159 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: forecast success with some of those guys that are position 160 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: coaches or coordinators now at some other NFL team, thinking 161 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: that they can be had or have the great success 162 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: that Urban Myers ad at the pro game. Urban, of course, 163 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: one of the innovative offensive minds in college football over 164 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: the last years or so, starting that spread offense, really 165 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: growing it and developing it into a system that took 166 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: over the SEC in Florida and then spread out to 167 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: other places in college football. And now it's it's creeping 168 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: into the NFL, which is you know, in the old days, 169 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: you'd think, okay, NFL pro style, if you have this 170 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: kind of quarterback, it won't work in the NFL. Well, 171 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: now you have entire organizations that are shifting over to 172 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: college philosophies that are now creeping into the NFL. More 173 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: and more and more teams are are using a lot 174 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: of the things that he was doing about fifteen years ago, 175 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the same type of stuff. 176 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: And here here's the crazy thing. For for a long time, 177 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: it was it was thought that the college stuff couldn't 178 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: be applied to the National Football League because you have 179 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: to have a running quarterback, because that's the entire basis 180 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: of the system that you see in college, and that 181 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback can be a dominant threat as a runner. 182 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: It's a numbers game to write a number of the 183 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: defense as the quarterback instead of now just being ignored 184 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: now has to be counted as a potential ball carrier, 185 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: which allows one other person that's not carrying the ball 186 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: to be a blocker. And that's where the numbers game is. 187 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: And heck, if if Nick Foles is still running some 188 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: of the read option and Nick Foles might be the 189 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: absolute opposite of what you would think might be able 190 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: to run or to be a running quarterback. If he 191 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: can do it, and the principles are working for a 192 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: guy like a Nick Foles or even uh for example, 193 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: or Tom Brady who fakes a handoff and it's a 194 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: read option type principle, it can work for anybody. Really. 195 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: We know that Tom Brady is not going to run anywhere, 196 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: but that's a little bit of an exaggeration. But you 197 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: get my point, and that you don't have to have 198 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson to run some of these college principles and 199 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: make them success at the NFL level. NFL coaches have 200 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: taken it and applied it at the NFL level, and 201 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: they've also done it a little differently, and that they're 202 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: obviously the quarterbacks not keeping the ball as much, but 203 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: the threat still exists that the quarterback can run the football. 204 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: Curious to see obviously that the coaching staff around if 205 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: urban Meyer is finalized at some point either today tomorrow, 206 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: the coaching staff that he would decide to bring in 207 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: with him. There are reports of on the defensive side 208 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: of the ball already of Charlie Strong, maybe as a 209 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: defensive coach of some kind. They haven't really reported what. 210 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: I haven't seen many offensive names links yet, but I'm curious, 211 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, would he have a play caller, would he 212 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: be involved in that or is he more of a 213 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: CEO type? And I think we'd find out a whole 214 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: lot more whenever it's announced and whenever he speaks to 215 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: the media for the first time. Yeah, that's uh, let's 216 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: get to the point where it's announced first, and that's right, 217 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: and we can we can speculate all day and as 218 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: people have been speculating about that, I don't think it's 219 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: very productive. But but I do know that the college 220 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: game is different than the progame. The playbook for colleges 221 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: maybe that thick, and I'm basically putting my two fingers 222 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: together for those on radio, about half an inch part, 223 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: whereas the pro game it might be two inches thick. 224 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: And so it's a little bit different. I think that 225 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: the coverages are a little bit more sophisticated, and for 226 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. For for one, this is a job, 227 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: and you can expect players at the NFL level to 228 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: assimilate the information and uh and be ready to go 229 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: with it. And because it's their job, that's the only 230 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: thing they're studying. They're not having to worry about biochemistry 231 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: or calculus, or anthropology or JP in your case, the 232 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: history of art or the history of circuits. You know 233 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: those classes you talk Alabama, so uh, you know what 234 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean. And so that now they can just read 235 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,239 Speaker 1: a playbook. But it's definitely a little bit more complex 236 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: and and there's a lot more put on quarterbacks at 237 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: the National Football League level, at least the ones that 238 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: have been wildly successful. We've got plenty of show ahead, 239 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: of course, another forty five minutes to sell in this 240 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: program than another hour of Jaguars Happy Hour at five 241 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: o'clock on the network. 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Coming up at four thirty today. 314 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: Tony Vase Elliott four five. Urban Meyer Watch continues. He 315 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: is reportedly in the Jacksonville area. If you followed social 316 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: media today, you probably saw some photographs of him stepping 317 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: off a private jet at the Cecil Airport on the 318 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: west side of town. He is apparently in negotiations with 319 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: the Jaguars as we speak, and if anything breaks in 320 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: the next hour and twenty minutes, our hour and forty minutes. Rather, 321 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: we will bring it to you live right here on 322 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour logs. We promised quarterback talk, and of 323 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: course many people feel that the Jaguars will draft a 324 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: quarterback first overall this year. I think you probably. I 325 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: wonder why, and I wonder who it might be. But um, 326 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: since we're discussing urban Meyer here today, we need to 327 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: go through urban Meyer's history of quarterbacks in college, considering 328 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: the system that he had really kind of developed and 329 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: used over his college time there, and it seems to 330 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: have a similar feel for a lot of these guys 331 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: because of the offense and the way they have to run. 332 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: At Josh Harris at Bowling Green. I must say I 333 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: did not remember Josh Harris at Bowling Green. I didn't 334 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: watch a lot of Bowling Green and No one O 335 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: two me either. But he was a six round picked 336 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: by Baltimore in two thousand four and was three seasons 337 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL and the CFL. Apparently then Alex Smith, Utah. 338 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: Alex Smith's star really rose in Salt Lake in the 339 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: time that he was under urban Meyer, and he was 340 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: the first overall pick. That's one of the big reasons 341 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: why is the great success that Urban had with him 342 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: at at the school. And that's Alex Smith. You know 343 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: Alex Smith would would you consider him a runner? Well? Uh, 344 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: in in those days, yes, in those days he kind 345 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: of had to do some of that. I don't think 346 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: he's a sprinter, so he's not. I mean he's not 347 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow. He was running enough. He's an offense Lamar 348 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Jackson or Michael Vick. But I mean he ran enough 349 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: exactly to make that offense work. And that's the importance 350 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: is that you don't have to be uh dynamic and 351 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: a home run threat every time you touch the ball. 352 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: But you gotta be a threat. You gotta be a threat, 353 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: and you have to make proper decisions as well. I 354 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: mean that's a quarterback decision. Offense. You're reading and reacting 355 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: and if you make the wrong move, the play gets 356 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: blown up. Yeah. The one the one thing is for 357 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: certain that because we're talking about the the potential of 358 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: of a Urban Meyer type of an offense in the NFL, 359 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: and I think there will be changes to a lot 360 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: of that. I think I think a lot of it 361 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: will adapt to to the NFL game and will a 362 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: quarterback be a running threat. If he's the head coach here, 363 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: I think that he will absolutely be a threat. But 364 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: I think all the reality is in the National Football League, 365 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to get your quarterback hit if you 366 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: don't have to get your quarterback hit, because this is 367 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: a position that if you get the right one and 368 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: he's allowed to grow and allowed to stay healthy. Look 369 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: at Tom Brady, look at Drew Brees. You think Tom 370 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: Brady Drew Brees would have lasted as long as they 371 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: did if they were these read option type quarterbacks at 372 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: the NFL level. I don't think so. Some other quarterbacks 373 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: in urban Meyer's past, Chris Leak at Florida, he was 374 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: inherited when Urban showed up in Gainesville. He wasn't a 375 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: exceptional runner, so he wasn't the great fit. But then 376 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow was. He was the ideal football player for 377 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: what they were doing in Gainesville. Yeah, and and uh Tim, 378 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: when you hear him talk about urban Meyer, I mean 379 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: he raves about urban Meyer and uh so interesting and 380 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: that that you know. And Tim, I think is one 381 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: of the great college football players of all time. And 382 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: when he speaks highly of a coach like he has 383 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: about urban Meyer. I think that speaks a lot of 384 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: volumes for for urban Meyer, and Tim obviously was not 385 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: his game wasn't really meant for the National Football League, 386 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: which also shows that you know, you've got to have 387 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback that can throw it, that can read it 388 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: and uh and go through progressions and and that's not 389 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: what Tim had. So Urban mars is obviously going to 390 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: be wanting a quarterback that can do some of those 391 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: things that Tim could not at the pro level. Then 392 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: we go on to Columbus when urban Meyer came back 393 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: into the Big Ten and the first starter for him 394 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: at Ohio State was Braxton Miller, running threat obviously twenty 395 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: five touchdowns. He was a Big Ten Player of the 396 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Year in twelve and thirteen. Uh and then he switched 397 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: a wide receiver later, but in his time, in his 398 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: days in Columbus, he was a quarterback in a big 399 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: threat yeah and and uh then was it Cardel after 400 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: that was in there for in fact Buffalo Bills and 401 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: then got traded to the Chargers. I believe many people 402 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: thought that he had a big arm and had very 403 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: little plane experience at Ohio State prior to entering the 404 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: National Football League. But many viewed him as a as 405 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: a aspect that would just need more time to grow, 406 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: and he hasn't grown yet. J. T. Barrett was part 407 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: of that group as well. He played a short time 408 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: in that championship season where Jones came in at the 409 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: very end and won the national Championship game. Miller was 410 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: the starter and then and then the J. C. Barrett 411 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: was there for a little bit for a month or so, 412 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: he got hurt and then in comes which which which 413 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: is amazing to win a national championship with how many 414 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: different quarterbacks in a season? Pretty good? That's pretty good. 415 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's uh, that's what we call recruiting. Well, 416 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: I mean when you well, yeah, absolutely, in which you 417 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: can do that at the pro game. But it reminds 418 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: me a little bit. And this is obviously a Hall 419 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: of Fame coach in the National Football League, and I'm 420 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: not trying to draw the comparison of the two, but 421 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: it's just interesting how you have a college coach that 422 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: won a national championship with three different coaches and one 423 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: or three three different quarterbacks in one season. It's impressive. 424 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: And when you start thinking about has there ever been 425 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: a coach at the NFL level it has been able 426 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: a win with three different quarterbacks in the same season. Uh, 427 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: hey many Now if you want to talk about different seasons, 428 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: Oh sure, Joe Gibbs. I mean he wanted with all 429 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: the Super Bowls with different quarterbacks, you know, so it's 430 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: a little bit different though. Those are those are different 431 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the season. Now we look at and I 432 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: know you've already started to look at Trevor Lawrence tape 433 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: and that's the player everybody feels that it is probably 434 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: going number one overall. Uh. He's a running threat as 435 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: well at logs and he can use those legs to 436 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: make this kind of thing work. He's a running threat JP. 437 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: But to me, that's where hold early in his career. 438 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: I think he'll lean on that a little bit. But 439 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't see him from watching this film. I don't 440 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: see him is that that's gonna be the mainstay or 441 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: the staple of his game. His arm talent is tremendous. 442 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: He's got really nice anticipation. He has the ability to 443 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: go through progressions. And I've been watching him, uh three 444 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: different nights now, four different nights now, and every everything 445 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: that I watch, you just you sit there and you 446 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: go wow. Um, impressive and I think what I like 447 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: about the most, and I don't know if this is 448 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: the way that the offense is tailor of, this is 449 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: just his nature. He loves to push the ball down 450 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: the field. I mean loves to push it. And that's 451 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: what you'd like to have as a quarterback that can 452 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: push it down the field. But when he when he's 453 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: pushing it down the field, he has the arm strength 454 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: and the armed talent to do that. And you've got 455 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: to have that armed talent to do that at the 456 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: National Football League level because the windows are smaller. College 457 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. But if you're doing it 458 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: playing and play out a game in and game out 459 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: at the collegiate level, then I think it becomes a 460 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: little bit easier to make that transition to the pro 461 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: game and continue to do that. Something to watch. Well, 462 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: We've got plenty of quarterback discussion ahead in the months 463 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: leading up to the NFL Draft, and we've only just 464 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: begun this is and it hasn't even really begun yet 465 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: because nothing has been officially announced today by the Jaguars 466 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: as of yet. But Urban Meyer is the talk. 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M Jaguar's Happy Hour, 536 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: presented by the c s I Companies rolls along, JP 537 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: Shadrick with you, Jeff Lagman alongside Today and NFL Network 538 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: analyst Bucky Brooks joins us now from Los Angeles, California, 539 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: on a day that is not quite official yet, Bucky, 540 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: but those photos on Twitter are certainly official, I'll say that. 541 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: And he's around it in town, and it feels like 542 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: this is coming to a close fairly quick here, Bucky. 543 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: And it feels like, obviously here in town, everybody seems 544 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: to be most everybody is excited about what could be 545 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: this move. Yeah, I think it's a very exciting move. 546 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: I think this move has an opportunity to really reset 547 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: the franchise. Uh. I've always been very, very bullish on 548 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: Urban Mary in Jacksonville. Part of it is because I 549 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: felt like the situation needed a program, build a culture builder, 550 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: someone who could change and give a vision for the 551 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: franchise and everyone could jump on board. And I think 552 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: when you look at Urban Mary and his track record, 553 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: not only what he did at Ohio State in Florida respectively, 554 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: but going all the way back to the success that 555 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: he had a Utah and Bowling Green, this is someone 556 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: who has a proven playing, a proven blueprint. He has 557 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: done it with and without resources, And I think because 558 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: of that, I think he's will equipped to jump into 559 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: this situation and have success at some point. Bucky, with 560 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: with a college coach making the jump to the pro game, 561 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: what what kind of a staff adjustment would you expect, 562 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, the college game being a little bit different 563 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: than the program. Do you do you see Urban leading 564 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: on some key players kind of putting that staff together 565 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: to help make that adjustment to the pro game. Yeah, Jeff, 566 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: I think it's really important that he brings in a 567 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: mix of people. I think he can lean on some 568 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: of his past assistance to kind of help him from 569 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: a cultural standpoint, But the pro game is vastly different 570 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: than the college game, and so he's going to need 571 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: to lean reach out to some NFL guys, guys that 572 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: understand the game, guys that understand how to coach pros 573 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: and bring those guys in. And I think when you 574 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: look at the way Urban typically gets down as a coach, 575 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: he is the CEO type. He's gonna oversee the entire operation. 576 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: He's going to be involved, but I think he's going 577 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: to trust his coaches to coach. I think it's really 578 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: really important with his staff, he has a balance of 579 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: NFL experience with some of the college guys who know 580 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: how he likes to operate a program. And then I 581 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: think that will be the best way for him to 582 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of get this franchise jump started. Lucky Brooks with 583 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: US NFL Network analyst, co host of Wednesday Jaguars Happy 584 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: Hour during the season and Jaguars Post Game Where and 585 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: the score Board Show or Bucky loves to take phone 586 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: calls after love his games, and it might be a 587 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: whole lot better in the future. Moving ahead. UM, So 588 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: we were talking earlier Bucky about the offensive track record 589 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: of Urban Meyer throughout his stops Bowling, Green, Utah, Florida, 590 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: Ohio State, and how that offense really he was a 591 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: big part of the spread coming to college football in 592 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: the early two thousands and the explosion of it at 593 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: Utah and at Florida and now it's moving into the 594 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: NFL game even more so. But he was one of 595 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: those one of the minds that really got this thing 596 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: going and got it off the ground to make it 597 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: and really changed the college football game the last fifteen 598 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: years or so. Yeah, JP and Jeff, I can tell 599 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: you a funny story. I remember as a scout when 600 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: I was working for the Seattle Seahawks. I went to 601 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: Utah and it was his first year at Utah, and 602 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm watching them at practice and it's in August is 603 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: the Militaria camp, and they're doing things that I've never 604 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: seen done before. You have Alex Smith and the shotgun 605 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: executing the zone read plays. You had a wing back 606 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: or WHI receiving named Paris Warren who was coming in 607 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: orbit motion and going behind the tailback and all this 608 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: and they're running triple options stuff, and they're throwing the 609 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: ball all over the yard. And I think what really 610 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: stood out to me was the adaptability, his ability to 611 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: take quarterbacks with different skill sets and find a way 612 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: to be successful. And I heard you guys talking about 613 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and what he really likes and quarterbacks and having 614 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: a conversation with him earlier this year. What he talked 615 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: about what he really prefers in the quarterback had little 616 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: to do with their physical ability. It's all about, Oh, 617 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: we've lost Bucky. We will get the connection coming back. Bucky. 618 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: You're back with us now. Nope, we'll get Bucky back 619 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: in just a moment. There's quite a cliffhanger from Bucky, 620 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: anxiously awaiting what he was gonna say, But I will 621 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: say that, you know, Urban has done a number of 622 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: the he's obviously a five sports analysts the last couple 623 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: of years and has done a fantastic job on those 624 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: pregame shows before the new kickoffs and and he's been 625 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: around the media the last couple of years especially. But Bucky, 626 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: I think it's back with us now. We lost you 627 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: at the keys to the quarterback position. Before you get 628 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: the keys to the quarterback position for Irvan Meyer, okay so, 629 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 1: and talking to Urban earlier this year, the intangibles matter 630 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: far more than the armed talent, meaning toughness, competitiveness, leadership ability. 631 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: He will not take a quarterback who doesn't exhibit those traits, 632 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: meaning he has to be the toughest guy. He has 633 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: to be a leader who can express himself vocally, and 634 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: he has to be able to elevate the team. He 635 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: is really big on that part of it. When the 636 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: pieces around you aren't perfect, can you still find a 637 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: way to get the team to the winners circle. Now, 638 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: he'll talk about the athletic component because it does expand 639 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: the playbook and allow you to do more things, But 640 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: really it's about the toughness, the grit, the determination. Can 641 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: this guy be a leader of men? Can he elevate 642 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: the franchise? Think about those traits more than some of 643 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: the physical things that we can tend to get bogged 644 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: down in. Yeah. I think in a perfect world, Bucky, 645 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: he'd like to have all of those traits combined. I mean, 646 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: you can rank them however you want to, And some 647 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: people would view that armed talent is more important than 648 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: anything at the NFL level, But you know, that's an 649 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: argument for an entire show. But with urban Meyer and 650 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: his past health concerns, Uh, have you ever heard or 651 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: do you know of any concern that he would have 652 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: returning to the game and at the pro level, which 653 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: many view is being even maybe more high stressed than 654 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 1: the college game. Yeah. No, I think that's a really 655 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: valid concern because we've seen how he he lives or 656 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: dies with the wins and losses, and obviously the pro 657 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: game is different. I mean, in in a pro season, 658 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: if you happen to get to twelve and four, that's 659 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: a very successful year, going three and one each quarter, 660 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: and so I will I do believe that will be 661 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: a bit of an adjustment. He's never really experienced, uh, 662 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: losing at a high level, and so it can drag 663 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: him down. Now, hopefully he's been able to manage that 664 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: and do those things. But I think he has to 665 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 1: come into the Jacksonville situation knowing that he is going 666 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: to experience a little adversity and that he will map 667 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: out a way to help the Jaguars work around that. 668 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: But I do believe the health concerns that we all 669 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: may have about him in the stress level is something 670 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: that we have to worry about, and I think is 671 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: one of maybe the negative factors that skeptics will have 672 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: with urban Meyer joining the franchise Bucky Brooks with us 673 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: NFL network analysts, and that that's why it had to 674 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: be for urban Meyer, and if this thing gets done, 675 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: it has to be the perfect scenario for him. That 676 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: he could basically pick where where was the best set 677 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: up for him or he could have just sat in 678 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 1: the Fox analyst chair for another three or four years 679 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: and done whatever he wanted to do. So that's part 680 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: of the reason. I think why is the health part. 681 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: But having the football organization a clean slate of sorts. 682 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: We talked about this before, Bucky having that opportunity a 683 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: clean slate organization, it doesn't happen that often in the 684 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: NFL where it's a true clean slate, So it seems 685 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: like this was the perfect opportunity. Yeah, I think this 686 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: gives him the clote, the best opportunity to run what 687 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: he's always familiar with, which is running a program that 688 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: is very similar to Florida and Ohio State. Meaning he's 689 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: at the top, he's the czar. He has the opportunity 690 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: to really reshape the franchise, the way that he sees fit. Uh. 691 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: Some of the things that we will eventually find out 692 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: about him. Big on the sports performance fees, big on 693 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: the nutrition piece, big on mental performance, and doing all 694 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: the things to make sure that the players are in 695 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: the right space when it comes to being a level competitors. 696 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: And so it's important for him to have that. Now. 697 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: It will be a bit of an adjustment because unlike college, 698 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: you're not recruiting, and so the way that you acquire 699 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: and develop players different. But I think his experience at 700 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: Bowling Green and Utah will help him with that because 701 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: this will be more of a developmental program. It will 702 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: be one that I think will skew a little younger 703 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: based on the roster that they have and the players 704 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: that they bring in, and so the development piece will 705 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: be big. But I will say this to the skeptics 706 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: and the naysayers who talk about this coaches not being 707 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: able to get it done, I'm gonna bring out Jim 708 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: Harbaugh's immediate success in San Francisco. Jim Harbaugh took over 709 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: a team in the middle of a lockout where he 710 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: didn't have an off season program, and that year, right 711 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: away they hit the ground running. I'm not saying the 712 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: Jaguars are in a situation like that, but it has 713 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: been done. Matt Rule and what they're doing in Carolina 714 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,959 Speaker 1: when you're rebuilding the culture, the winds didn't necessarily come, 715 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: but the culture has changed and they were extremely competitive. 716 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you have experience and success doing 717 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: these rebuilds multiple times, you have a tried and true 718 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: formula that works. I think it's just about him implementing 719 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: his plan and getting everybody to follow suit and Bucky 720 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: you talk about how you cannot recruit at the pro level, 721 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: but which obviously makes the position of general manager so 722 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 1: very important because that's the guy that's doing the recruiting 723 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: for you. He's identifying who are going to be the 724 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: a lest type of players. There's been rumors about about 725 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: who might fill that position if, in fact, or a 726 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: Meyer is hired. Uh, what do you see in that 727 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: in that role for the general manager? What type of 728 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: traits were they that person have to have to be 729 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: able to work with an urban Meyer. Well, I think 730 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 1: the first thing he needs to have is he needs 731 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: to have enough NFL experience to understand the workings of 732 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: how you acquire talent, how you draft talent, how you 733 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: understand and manipulate the waiver y and transactions and all 734 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: of those things. I think it also needs to be 735 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: a forward thinking football mind, meaning they understand today's athlete, 736 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: they understand how to get young guys ready to go, 737 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: and I think they also have to work in lockstep 738 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: in terms of a developmental plan where you're not only 739 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: getting young guys going, but you're giving them opportunities to play. 740 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: We saw how that played out last year, and we 741 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: saw the amount of young players that got onto the field. 742 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: But can you get young guys onto the field and 743 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: help them have a media success. We saw Pete Carroll 744 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: take his experience from USC and have that in Seattle 745 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: where they run a bit of a collegiate program with 746 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: the NFL sauce on top. I think Urban has to 747 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: create a situation like that, and he has to have 748 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: a right hand man that can be to him with 749 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: John Snyder has been to Pete Carroll. Alright, Bucky, if 750 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: if if Urban is in fact named the head coach, 751 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: who do you envision his quarterback being With the first 752 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: overall pick of the draft. It's in fact they take 753 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: one which is still not a done deal. Oh, I 754 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: think it's a donedeal. I think Trevor Lawrence is a guy. 755 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: I think people are going to talk about justin fields, 756 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: but I think Trevor Lawrence exhibits all the qualities that 757 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: he wants in a quarterback. Trevor Lawrence has always been 758 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: a winner, going all the way back to high school 759 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: watching what he was able to do it Clemson. He 760 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: is tough, he's competitive. I think this spring we saw 761 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: his leadership ability kind of really come front when he 762 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 1: was really involved in not only getting his team to play, 763 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: but also what he did with his teammates in terms 764 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: of uplifting them. I think he is the right guy 765 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: to be the franchise quarterback, and I think he has 766 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: the right stuff to be Urban Meyers quarterback in Jacksonville. 767 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: And so I think the excitement that is brimming and 768 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: brewing in Jacksonville is about getting the ultimate QB one 769 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: to go with a head coach who certainly has a 770 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: track record for being able to be successful. You know 771 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: how you can tell Bucky's excited Logs because he's wearing 772 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: that Jaguar shirt today. Nice shirt. Well, ready man, ready 773 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: Loggs knows it's been a long time coming. Man telling 774 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: me win some games. Yeah, it is indeed, Bucky. Appreciate 775 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: your time man on short notice, and we'll talk to 776 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: you again. Suit. I'm sure for sure, Man, be good 777 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: logs to be good JP. Bucky Brooks out of here, 778 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst. Always a great visit, great insight of 779 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: course from Bucky and has done a fantastic job for 780 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: us this whole season, and we'll have him a good 781 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: bit in this off season leading up to the NFL Draft. 782 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: Lots to get to We're coming back in a moment, 783 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: Tony Boselli right around the corner. The Urban Meyer Watch continues, 784 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 1: the negotiations continue. 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Ford Built for the holidays. Welcome 852 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: back Jaguar's Happy Hour presented by the c s I 853 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: Companies j P. Shadrick with Jeff Logerman Tony Sully coming 854 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: up in moments. Thanks to Bucky Brooks, NFL Network analyst 855 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: and our co host on Wednesday's Happy Hour during the 856 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: Sea Reason and postgame radio like going on today, the 857 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer watch continues. Nothing official from the Jacksonville Jaguars 858 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: as of yet, but the reports have him in the 859 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: building and in town. Of course, the photos you've seen 860 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: on social media today of him stepping off a private 861 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: jet and being escorted in an automobile through the garage 862 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: doors and the loading dock at the stadium earlier today, 863 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 1: that means he is in the building. The negotiations continue, 864 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: last we have seen, and if anything breaks in the 865 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: next hour fifteen minutes, we will bring it to you 866 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: right here on Jaguars Happy Hour. Interesting stuff from Bucky there. 867 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,959 Speaker 1: He's got some great insight as a former scout and 868 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: has been with the NFL Network for a number of 869 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: years now, and um, you know he's he's bullish on 870 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and has been for the last to the 871 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: to the Jaguars at least for the last year. So well, 872 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 1: I look, I I think that there's good reason for that. 873 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: And the big reason, obviously is that he's had great 874 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: success at the college level and and at different levels 875 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: of the college level. And uh and that's a real positive. 876 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: So the greatest chance or the greatest ability to forecast 877 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: somebody's success is to look at past success. And he's 878 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: had great success in football at the collegiate level. And 879 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: can he take it to the pro game If you 880 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,760 Speaker 1: get the right players, he can be wildly successful. Tony 881 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: Vaselli you might have heard of him. He's with us now, 882 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: proud of the Jaguars left Tackle Hall of Fame finalists. 883 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: The vote coming up next week. A lot going on 884 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: the last couple of days around the Jacksonville Jaguars. Today 885 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 1: is one of those big days. On social media, Tony, 886 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: everybody's following what is going on. Nothing official from the team, 887 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: but he is in the building and negotiations continue. That 888 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: means it's on the doorstep. It feels like Tony, Yeah, 889 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I have a hard time believing that this 890 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: thing won't get done at this point. I mean, it 891 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocking if I mean, we've come this far 892 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: and they have this much water under the bridge. I think, 893 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: you know, you can't say it's a done deal till 894 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: it's it's finished. But it looks like Eric Meyer is 895 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: gonna be the the next head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 896 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: And listen, there's a lot of things you love about this. 897 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a firm believer that the head coaching 898 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 1: position is a leadership position more than the next and 899 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: no position. Um. And if you look at his track record, 900 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: while it's in the in college, no doubt about it. Um, 901 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: his leadership is off this charge and he has his 902 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: had success everywhere and people talk about, well, yeah, it's 903 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: easy to have success in formid ohiuse state because you 904 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: get all the players that you want. UM. While that's true, 905 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: you still have to lead them and put them in 906 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: a position to win. But you can go back to 907 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: Utah undefeated, UM success there, bowling green success there where 908 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: you're not getting the best players. UM. And so I 909 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 1: think he is a leader. I think he's the right um. 910 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: You know, has that makeup and that you're looking for it. 911 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: And and but there's questions to Jeff brought it up 912 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: being going college to pro that's a transition. Some people 913 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 1: do it great, So I don't, well, you don't know 914 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: until he actually does it. Obviously, all the reports out 915 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 1: there about health and stuff something like, I'm sure he's 916 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: fully aware of it's his health. That's something you just 917 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,879 Speaker 1: got to um be aware of. But does that mean 918 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: he can't coach. No, there's a lot of head coaches 919 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,919 Speaker 1: in this leg and trust me that have underlying health 920 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: stuff going on. So UM, I think overall it's a 921 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 1: pretty exciting um higher. It's a splash higher. Um. It's 922 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of attention, and it's one of 923 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: those things that, boy, you just hope And I think 924 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: this is what Shod probably saying, I'm gonna go hire 925 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: a guy who's one before it knows what it looks like. 926 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: Um is a one everywhere he's been and as a 927 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: bona fide leader, and see if he can that can 928 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 1: translate to the NFL, can translate to the Jacksonville Jaguarks. Yeah, 929 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: we'll see UM. Nothing officially yet from the team, but yeah, 930 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: the negotiations continue, and it is he's one of the 931 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: all time great college coaches. Tony and that's the thing. 932 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,879 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the third best winning percentage in big 933 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 1: time major college ball ever, behind Newton Rockney and Frank Lahy. 934 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy has won, and he's won it 935 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: four different, really distinctly different places in college. So he's 936 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: been able to build those programs in in different places, 937 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 1: in different ways, with different people, and that tells you 938 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,439 Speaker 1: a whole lot. Yeah, the dudes a winner. I mean, 939 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: I mean, just look at the numbers. I mean you 940 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,479 Speaker 1: can and you hear reports, well he's not well liked 941 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 1: or it's this or that. I mean, I don't know. 942 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: I've never met the man. So in my book, you 943 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: get the benefit of the doubt. Goin met each other, 944 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: and um and and and we'll figure that. You figure 945 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: that out what kind of relationship you have with individuals. 946 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: But set all that asign he wins, and he's won everywhere. 947 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: Now it's it's is it different from the NFL to 948 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: the pros? Yes, is he gonna win at the clip 949 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 1: that he did in college? I hope so, highly doubtful. 950 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: The NFL is a different game because you don't wake 951 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: up and you have better talent than you know the 952 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: teams on your schedule it's not like that. But he's 953 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: won in big games. He's one in BCS, he went 954 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: through the playoffs. I mean, every every challenge has been 955 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: put in front of the Urban Meyers. From a football standpoint, 956 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: he's been wildly successful. And like I said a second ago, 957 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: you just the reason you hire him is because you 958 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: were betting the house that it translates where he did 959 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,439 Speaker 1: in college to the NFL Tony. I don't think there's 960 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: any doubt that that when urban Meyer would walk in 961 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: front of a team, a pro team, this team, that 962 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: there would be instant credibility just because of what he's 963 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: been able to accomplish at all of his previous stops. 964 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if he hasn't played or won 965 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: a game at the pro level. And I think that's 966 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: obviously a big battle, is being able to have credibility 967 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: in front of a football team. Now you obviously have 968 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: to do things to to maintain that going forward, but 969 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of it. And with 970 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: that being said, the next step, obviously, if you hire 971 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: in fact, then the inc is drive with urban Meyer. 972 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: The next step obviously he's finding elenimal manager and obviously 973 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: that is critically important to any coaches success at the 974 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: National Football League level, you know, and I think it's 975 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,240 Speaker 1: probably gonna be I don't want to say more important 976 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 1: because Urban obviously, you know, he's procured players at the 977 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: call from high school of college and you've got to 978 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: do the work and be organized and all that um. 979 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: But you want to make sure you're the right person 980 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,319 Speaker 1: because listen, Urban is gonna be running the show. I mean, 981 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: let's don't make no let's not make you know, let's 982 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: make no bones about it. I mean, he doesn't take 983 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,760 Speaker 1: this job lest it's clear that he is in charge 984 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 1: of the football side, and so you have to find 985 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: the right GM who understands his role and says, hey, listen, 986 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: my job is to make Urban great. My job is 987 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: to manage the rest of the building so he focuses 988 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,240 Speaker 1: on football and everything else, and to make him great, 989 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: and to find the players that fit the systems that 990 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: that whoever his offensive parinator is gonna be and whoever 991 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: his defensive coordinators. You find the right people, and you 992 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: have to do it in a in a manner that's collaborative. 993 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: So it's really important that GM has leadership in like 994 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,840 Speaker 1: the way I would say best because I think this 995 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: is what is it is really servant leadership. Your job 996 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: is to make sure Urban has the tools that he 997 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 1: needs and to make sure it's the type of players 998 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: he wants to fit the scheme and to manage all 999 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: this stuff around him. So, UM, you gotta find the 1000 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: right guy, and uh, it'll be interesting. My guess is 1001 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,439 Speaker 1: Urban's gonna weigh in on that. I mean, they're probably 1002 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: gonna unless there's something going on that we don't know about, 1003 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 1: or maybe they take one of the guys they've already 1004 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 1: interviewed um and make them the gym. But it's definitely 1005 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 1: something that I would bet a lot of money Jeff 1006 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: that Urban is weighing it heavily on who the GM is. 1007 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: And the reports today tell me that Trent Balky has 1008 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: been involved in the process. That has been at least 1009 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: reported today by a couple of different outlets. So we'll 1010 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: see what the days ahead hold in that regard. I 1011 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 1: know what the days ahead hold for you. How nervous 1012 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: are you for the vote this year? The Hall of 1013 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: Fame votes coming up next week? Yeah, if I'm being honest, 1014 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 1: I haven't thought about it because it's know, you know, 1015 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: you get remember Jeff, As a player, you have that 1016 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: internal clock, like you know, when training camp starts, you 1017 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,240 Speaker 1: start getting like feel allousy because you know camp stuff coming, 1018 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: they're hit. In the regular season, your body is a 1019 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: tune to win. The game's gonna be played. Well, this 1020 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 1: is the fifth year I've done this, and so the 1021 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: last four, like you get used to the like the 1022 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: cadence of what happens, Like you fly to the super Bowl, 1023 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: you do all the work up and then the nerve 1024 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: starts kicking in as you get closer to the Saturday 1025 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: before um Super Bowl. And so this year it's completely different. 1026 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 1: I think they're voting h five days from now. I'm 1027 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: not mistaken, and and so it's not that i've I'm 1028 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 1: very aware, but it's not top of mind because I'm 1029 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: used to, like I really start thinking about when I 1030 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl. So um, outside of people 1031 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: like you JP bringing up and asking me, you know, 1032 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things that this is the 1033 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: fifth year I've been in this position. I obviously hope 1034 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: I make it. I mean, my goodness, um more than 1035 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: any I mean as much as anything. But I have 1036 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: no control over they're gonna vote. I don't even know 1037 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: when they're telling us, I don't know how they're telling 1038 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: us the hell of famous let us know that at all. 1039 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm getting the calls, you know, 1040 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: the nineteenth night. I don't know if they're waiting until 1041 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: the week of the Super Bowl to tell us. Unless 1042 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: you got JP, you probably know more than I do 1043 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 1: at that about I don't. That's That's why I was 1044 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: interested in your take on it. But I know it's 1045 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: different this year in the COVID world. So all that now, 1046 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 1: you final thought here with you, Tony. You got a 1047 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: game this weekend on Westwood. What you got? Yeah, I 1048 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: got I'm doing the uh, in my opinion, the best 1049 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: game of the weekend. Um and because as the most 1050 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 1: I think it's the greatest storyline around the Saints and 1051 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. I mean, you have Drew Brades is probably retiring, 1052 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: and you have the greatest quarterback of all time who 1053 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 1: is defying Father Time and Tom Brady. So uh yeah. 1054 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 1: I fly out to New Orleans on on Saturday. It's 1055 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,240 Speaker 1: the Sunday game and I'm looking forward to it. Cannot 1056 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: wait to watch those two teams play. I mean, the 1057 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 1: Saints beat him twice. Um. Second Time handidly beat them 1058 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 1: pretty easily. Um, but the Buccanteers are playing really good 1059 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: football right now offensively. That Saints defense is good. Uh, 1060 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how Drew Brees did. I 1061 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: didn't think he looked great last week. Um, you can 1062 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: tell he's you know, father time is catching up with 1063 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, unlike Tom Brading's beating him off. But I 1064 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: can't wait to do it, just to see those two 1065 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: guys go at it. Um, two good, really good head 1066 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: coaches on the offensive side of the ball. And Bruce 1067 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 1: arians Sean Payton got two good defenses, you know, with 1068 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: Dennis Allen's done and Todd Bowls for the Buccaneers, I 1069 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 1: mean some of the better defenses. I think it's a 1070 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 1: fabulous matchup with a lot of the storylines. All right, Well, 1071 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: since it's gonna be a fabulous matchup, give us a prediction. 1072 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: Who you who you think is gonna win? Boy, Jeff, 1073 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: I just get a sense that I think the Bucks 1074 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: are gonna pull it off. And that makes no I mean, 1075 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: if you look at the last two games, you'd say, well, 1076 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,800 Speaker 1: why are you saying that? I mean the Staints have 1077 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: dominated them. Um, I think I think the Bucketeers are 1078 00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,879 Speaker 1: playing better and better each week. I think of offensively, um, 1079 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: they're really explosive, and I just I'm not sure how 1080 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: many I don't know how many points the Saints can 1081 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: put up on the board against the Bucks defense. So 1082 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: um to say that though I picked them last time, 1083 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 1: I picked the Bucks to be in the last matchup 1084 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 1: because I thought they were playing well, and the Saints 1085 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: blew them out. So I think it's a close game. 1086 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: But if I had the bet, probably lead towards the Bucks. 1087 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: All right, Tony, Um, thanks for your time, short notice. 1088 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate you, and and and whenever this is final, I'm 1089 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 1: sure we'll do more shows like this. So we're waiting. 1090 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: We'll all wait and see. It's like waiting for the 1091 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, remember when they choose the new pope in 1092 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: the Catholic Church, you wait for the white smoke to 1093 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: come out of the Vatican. I think we're all waiting 1094 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: for the white smoke right now. I have a good one, Tony. 1095 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: Tony Boselli prior to the Jaguars left tackle out of here. 1096 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 1: And you know, this is a fun day and it's 1097 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a fun week for him, hopefully, hopefully, that 1098 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: vote comes through for him next week. That would be nice. 1099 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: He look, uh, I got firsthand experienced to to go 1100 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: against Tony and and I don't think there's any question 1101 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: because I went against a lot of other guys that 1102 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: are in the Hall of Fame and played that played 1103 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: left tackle, and and Tony, I think it is better 1104 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: than just about every one of them, to be perfectly 1105 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 1: honest with you, So it would be a tragedy for 1106 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: him not to get in. But there are a lot 1107 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 1: of really good players on that list, JP. I mean, 1108 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to argue, uh, that that some of 1109 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 1: these other guys on the list don't deserve to get 1110 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: in as well. And that's the great thing is that 1111 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,919 Speaker 1: you're in the conversation and and clearly all these guys 1112 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: are great players. They are and let's just hopefully we 1113 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 1: can put that to bed five days from now and 1114 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, enjoy it with him and move on about 1115 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: our lives here now. Of course, today it's Urban Meyer watch. 1116 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: He is in the building, he is negotiating, and that 1117 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 1: there's nothing official yet from the Jacksonville Jaguars organization. We've 1118 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 1: seen the photos and the video work following him around 1119 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 1: town all day to day after his arrival, so we'll see. 1120 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: And coming up, we've got an hour on the Jaguars 1121 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: Radio Network and other hour of Jaguar's Happy Hour, and 1122 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 1: if anything breaks in that sixty minute period, we'll bring 1123 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: it to you live right here on this program. A 1124 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: lot of excited folks today logs and rightly so, well, 1125 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: I think that that it's good reason because you're talking 1126 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: about bringing one of the most successful coaches of all 1127 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: time at the collegiate level into your your team, and 1128 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 1: your team hasn't experienced a lot of winning. So the 1129 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: first thought is, this team is gonna win now they 1130 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: got they got a coach, and they're gonna get a 1131 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: quarterback and things are going to be different. And hope 1132 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: is a beautiful thing. Jaj it is, it is, indeed, 1133 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: and we're back in a moment. 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