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Speaker 1: Hey to everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Betting Pros podcast, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by bet MGM. I'm your host, Dan Harris. You can

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Speaker 2: find me on Twitter at Dan Harris eighty. It is

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Speaker 2: week fourteen of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: It's time to.

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Speaker 2: Talk about our best bets from a spread or money

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Speaker 2: line or totals perspective. Here to do that with me

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Speaker 2: is Pat Fitzmorris. Find them on Twitter at fits Underscore

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Speaker 1: How are you today?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, Dan? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing all right? We have both locked our dogs

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Speaker 2: in another room far away. That's one of our favorite

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Speaker 2: things to do when we podcast together, which is fairly often,

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Speaker 2: which is to make sure that the dogs cannot get

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Speaker 2: in and ruin our entire podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Are you are you? You feel comfortable?

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Speaker 2: We've got a good half hour forty five minutes here

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Speaker 2: where you can survive.

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Speaker 3: By lock far away? You mean sleeping next to me? Right? Oh? No,

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Speaker 3: much so? All right, that's okay.

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Speaker 4: I've got an emergency bone at the ready in case

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Speaker 4: I need it. If he wakes up and wants to

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Speaker 4: annoy me. That would buy us enough time, I think

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Speaker 1: Very good.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was lucky enough for my dog to write

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Speaker 2: before we start recording, see the neighborhood, Bobcat and run

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Speaker 2: downstairs barking up crazy. And then I just locked the

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Speaker 2: door behind it. So we should be good here. But

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Speaker 2: if you hear some scratching, that is that is him

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Speaker 2: trying to get in. All right, let's get into it, Pat,

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be a good show for us, as

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Speaker 2: people will find out shortly, because I know you and

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Speaker 2: I think very similarly on a lot of things, and

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Speaker 2: it does look like we may be on the opposite

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Speaker 2: and Wyoming. All right, quick recap up last week. It

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Speaker 2: was not a good week for this podcast, pat So.

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Speaker 2: And it's been a little bit stagnant lately, myself, our guests. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: it hasn't been you know, we haven't been blowing the

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Speaker 2: doors off here. So Ian McMillan, who is having one

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Speaker 2: of the great betting seasons of all time. He bets

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Speaker 2: every single NFL game. He's up something like twenty five

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Speaker 2: units on the season. Like he's doing great. He went

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Speaker 2: out for three, He missed on the Bears, getting eight

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Speaker 2: from the Cardinals. The Raiders lank two and a half

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Speaker 2: to Washington, and the Ravens and the Steelers over forty four.

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Speaker 2: I went one and two. I missed on the Vikings

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Speaker 2: laying seven to the Lions, which was not close. The

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Speaker 2: second Adamsdally got injured, I realized, like, this is not

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Speaker 2: going to end well. Regardless. I also missed on the

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Speaker 2: Bills lank three to the Patriots. The one I hit

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Speaker 2: on was the Chargers getting three from the Bengals, which

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Speaker 2: was my favorite of the weekend. That's nineteen and twenty

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Speaker 2: on the year. That's obnoxious after a good start. So Pat,

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Speaker 2: we have to get back on track here. I know, Pat,

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Speaker 2: that we are not going to go six and oh

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Speaker 2: on our six favorite bets here, as you and I

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Speaker 2: may have discussed before we started recording. We can start there,

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Speaker 2: or we can start wherever.

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Speaker 1: You want. Give me a bet that you're looking at

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Speaker 1: this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Well, Dan, and I'm surprised this was not the one

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Speaker 4: that we agreed on necessarily because I know all about

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Speaker 4: your blind loyalty to the New York Jets, your willingness

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Speaker 1: None of this is true whatsoever, but go ahead.

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Speaker 4: So I was kind of surprised you did not like

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Speaker 4: the Saints, who have lost five straights and have Taysom

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Speaker 4: Hill at quarterback. Who yeah, I mean he was Harry

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Speaker 3: A fat lot of.

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Speaker 4: Good it did them in that game. In his last appearance.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's just a terrible passer and has since.

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Speaker 4: You know, now he's got this finger issue, So like,

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Speaker 4: what is that going to look like? I know the

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Speaker 4: Jets defense is bad, but I don't think Taysom Hill

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Speaker 4: averaged twenty two point eight points a game since Week eight.

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Speaker 4: This is actually a functional offense, and like Elijah Moore

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Speaker 4: the five and a half points. I mean, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: lock in the safe five and a half, but I'm

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Speaker 4: probably gonna put a little something on the money too.

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Speaker 4: I Mean, the Saints team is like they're done. They

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Speaker 4: know they're not playoff bound. So it's not like you

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Speaker 4: are going to get this spunky, fighting for their life

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Speaker 4: the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Why well all that, why do you say five and seven?

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Speaker 2: I mean we're gonna talk. Oh you know what I've had,

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Speaker 2: I should have talked about the Vikings tonight. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: you're right, because I know we had talked about that earlier.

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Speaker 2: end of the show. We'll talk about the game because

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Speaker 2: people will have probably seen that game already by the

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Speaker 2: time they listen to this anyway, But we talked about

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Speaker 2: the Vikings at five and seven, like they're still in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. You never know it's the seventh spot, man,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Saints are still there.

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Speaker 4: I guess, man, But five straight Dan with Taysom Hill

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Speaker 4: at quarterback, I mean, they just they don't have a

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Speaker 4: quarterback who can win out. They need to win out,

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Speaker 4: and they're just not gonna do it with what they

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I will say this. I'll point a

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Speaker 2: I will point out Elijah Moore is battling the quad

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Speaker 2: cautious there. Tevin Coleman, also dealing with the concussion, may

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Speaker 2: with some injuries. Keeling cole By the way, just as

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Speaker 2: not that that matters that much, right, It's not like

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Speaker 2: can see a scenario with Alvin Kamara back in this game,

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Speaker 2: Patriots esque game plan here, but they can just go

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Speaker 2: if the Jets can't run the ball at all, and

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Speaker 2: I don't like the Saints. I'm not taking the Saints

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Speaker 2: on the road laying the weird dead number of five

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Speaker 2: I want to run away from. Uh So that's really

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Speaker 2: why that's where my hesitation comes from.

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Speaker 3: Understandable, Yeah, I'm just.

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Speaker 4: I agree that the Saints defense is pretty good and

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Speaker 4: the running game could be an issue, although I think

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Speaker 4: even if Tevin Coleman isn't able to go, I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so should I mean should we like the under

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Speaker 3: Too?

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Speaker 2: It was under consideration for me, Pat for sure. I my,

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Speaker 2: you know, if they're ever a defensive score, I could

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Speaker 2: see happening here. But yeah, I mean, look, why would

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Jets cannot stop the run. You have

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Speaker 2: you've got a quarterback who's got mallet finger and by

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Speaker 2: the way, doesn't even have the Deontay Harris, right, like,

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Speaker 2: to the house. It does strike me as the under

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Speaker 2: and I'm about to take an over under also on

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Speaker 2: But it gives me sort of concerns. But I do

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Speaker 2: like the under better than the side in this one.

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Speaker 2: You like the under as well if you had to

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Speaker 2: go one way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the under two, but I would take

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Speaker 3: the side first.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm staying away from the side, And

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Speaker 2: again I want to make it clear I'm not against

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Speaker 2: you in this one. We'll get to one where I'm

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Speaker 2: against you, Pat, but I'm not against you on this one.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's got to be. I've got to

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Speaker 1: feel really.

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Speaker 2: Strong if I'm going to back the Jets, and I

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Speaker 2: certainly don't hear so you know if actually I don't

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Speaker 2: even have a if I had to go way, I

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Speaker 2: would go this way. If I had to go one way,

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Speaker 2: I would you root for the asteroid and jump out

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Speaker 2: the window and do something else. I'm gonna start with

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Speaker 2: the total, Pat, And then I was thinking maybe I'll

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Speaker 2: start with the game that I know we're on different sides.

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Speaker 2: I'll start with the total, though, since we talked about

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Speaker 2: a low total, I will give an equally low total

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Speaker 2: here the Panthers and the Falcons, Pat and I'm going

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Speaker 2: under forty two and a half. Carolina fired Joe Brady

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Speaker 2: and the stated reason was he doesn't run enough, Like

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Speaker 2: he is not running the ball enough. So I don't

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Speaker 2: know what the over under is on rush attempts here

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Speaker 2: between Cam and Chuba Hubbard and you want to get

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Speaker 2: a mirror of Dullah involved in there, but it's got

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Speaker 2: to be like thirty five or something like that. Like

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Speaker 2: they're just gonna run the ball the entire time, is

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Speaker 2: what I guess, especially Pat after we saw Cam, who's

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Speaker 2: going to start in this game. I know he's not confirmed,

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Speaker 2: but he's gonna start. Go five for twenty one in

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Speaker 2: And the Falcons are bad defend for sure. Uh there's

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Speaker 2: So the Falcons are bad defensively, but they are worse

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Speaker 1: So I think with running it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm probably going to piggyback you on that one.

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Speaker 4: We saw the first game Carolina one, nineteen thirteen when

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Speaker 4: they met earlier. We have not seen any appreciable improvements

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Speaker 4: have talked about this on our Sunday Recap pod, where

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Speaker 4: So yeah, like Cam is just like, we've got some

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Speaker 3: I got some really.

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Speaker 4: going to be a thirty five running rushing attempt game

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Speaker 1: I think, yes, So.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you here. I think this one plays under.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of surprised to see it as high

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Speaker 1: What game ends first, Pat Saint Chetz or Falcons father.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's boy.

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Speaker 4: That is going to be a sprint to two sprinters

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Speaker 4: going at it like Ussein Bolts trying to get under

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Speaker 1: I want.

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Speaker 2: I want our books to start making. That is something

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Speaker 2: we can bet on which game end ends.

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Speaker 3: First, fun weekly prop, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we'll start our own sports book. We'll get

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Speaker 2: that going, all right, So that's my first pick.

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Speaker 4: What do you got since we're on the Undersdan, how

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Speaker 3: We know that.

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Speaker 4: And now the running game. You know, Urban Meyer choosing

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Speaker 4: that fumble that James Robinson didn't play and Hide has

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Speaker 3: But never mind that.

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Speaker 4: So we know the Jacksonville offense is gonna struggle to

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Speaker 4: but we still don't know if Julio Jones is going

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Speaker 3: To be feared.

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Speaker 4: I'm not too worried about like the Titan Titans putting

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Speaker 4: So I mean, I think you get a real good

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Speaker 2: Certainly none of the bets that anybody gives out as

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Speaker 1: So I am with you here. I think both teams

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Speaker 2: So man, unders huh, that's what we're doing in this

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Speaker 4: Just the Tennessee's run defense is really good. And if

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 2: That was actually the next one I want to make,

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Speaker 1: But I do like it.

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Speaker 2: Now I'll try it on it. But let look, I

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Speaker 2: You were waiting for me to bring it up. I'll

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Speaker 2: start then, and it is the forty nine ers that

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Speaker 2: I do like the forty nine ers. You'll be on

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Speaker 2: I said, you and I are known to agree on

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Speaker 1: Let's disagree.

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Speaker 2: I'll make my case first, Pat, that's good with you,

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Speaker 2: and then you can counter.

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Speaker 1: Good, absolutely wonderful, all right. So this is the one

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Speaker 2: end in George Kittle. They're EPA offensively. The forty nine

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Speaker 2: so they're really rolling here. Offensively. Both teams have injuries here,

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Speaker 2: But the injuries for the Bengals Pat the finger injury

438
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,680
Speaker 2: for Burrow, and really that's kind of like the critical

439
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,800
Speaker 2: point for me, Like that was an ugly injury. He

440
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,639
Speaker 2: did not look good throwing the ball after that.

441
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 1: We have seen what these finger injuries do.

442
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,240
Speaker 2: I know it's the pinky, so it's a little different

443
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,919
Speaker 2: than Wilson, but we've seen what these finger injuries do.

444
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,120
Speaker 2: It's not as if like he's out there in practice

445
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 2: like I'm totally fine.

446
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm totally fine.

447
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 2: He's like I can play through it and stuff like that.

448
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 2: So I think that is going to affect the way

449
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 2: the Bengals are offensively. Not to mention T Higgins dealing

450
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 2: with an ankle injury, which happened at the very end

451
00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 2: of that game. I didn't really realize it, but he

452
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 2: hasn't practic yet, and defensively two pat for the Bengals.

453
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 2: You know, a Woozia he might be out in this game.

454
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: That's a big loss for them. He might play, but

455
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 2: we already know Logan Wilson is out. That's a big loss.

456
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 2: They are coming east, Pat, and I know I never

457
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,199
Speaker 2: love West Coast teams coming east, but the four to

458
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 2: twenty five game makes it a little more palatable to

459
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 2: me because it doesn't mess with their internal clocks. I

460
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 2: think the forty nine ers win this game, Pat, and

461
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 2: you know, the injury, especially the Burrow, makes me feel

462
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 2: even better about it.

463
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 1: That is my case. That is why one of my.

464
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 2: Picks is San Francisco giving one now to the Bengals

465
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati.

466
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, so initially this started as San Francisco with a

467
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 4: one point correct.

468
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,719
Speaker 2: They were, they were getting a point correct, they were

469
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 2: getting a point. Now they're a one point favorite.

470
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so wait, I'm sorry. Who was initially the favorite?

471
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 2: The Bengals were initially the favorite. It is now enough

472
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 2: to San Francisco being the favorite. San Francisco I assume,

473
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 2: I really, I I have to believe Pat, that that's

474
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 2: that's injury related.

475
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: I have to believe it because I.

476
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 2: Think Burrow's comments not that he's gonna play. Burrow's tough guy.

477
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: We've seen it. He's gonna play.

478
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 2: But I think his comments have been less than like,

479
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 2: oh man, I'm good, let's go.

480
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: I feel great. It's more like I'm gonna be I'm

481
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 1: gonna manage it, I'm gonna play through it.

482
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 2: And I'm like, my guess is that's why the money

483
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 2: came in. But again, to me, Pat, it doesn't really

484
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 2: matter one on on either side. Crossing zero doesn't matter

485
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 2: that much to me, but go ahead.

486
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: Sorry.

487
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 4: No, he has said that it hurts like hell, and

488
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 4: he saw him like those those practice throws on the

489
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 4: sideline where he was just like an excruciating pain. So yeah,

490
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 4: that is Admittedly, that is a big wild card that

491
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 4: I maybe.

492
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 3: I am not accounting for enough.

493
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 4: You know, we've seen this, this Bengals team drill some

494
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 4: of their divisional rivals and not bad teams either, but

495
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 4: they have been schizophrenic. Yes, that game against the Chargers

496
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 4: last week a really tough loss for them, but they

497
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 4: fought pretty hard to stay in a game that was looking.

498
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: Like it was going to be a blowout.

499
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 4: I just think this is a good enough team to

500
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 4: do something about a bad home loss and bounce back

501
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 4: against a team coming east, Yes, the West Coast coming

502
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 4: into the Eastern time thing. I'd feel much stronger about that,

503
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 4: of course, if it was an early start.

504
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: Although that old betting.

505
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 4: Axiom has not exactly, you know, been one hundred percent

506
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 4: by any means this year. But you know, I do

507
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 4: like the good team coming off a bad loss. That

508
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 4: that's kind of one thing I'm leaning on here. And

509
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 4: I don't think the Bengals are going to lose too

510
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: straight at home to West Coast teams. So and I

511
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 4: think they've got the better quarterback here Dan, Like I mean,

512
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 4: even if Burrow is completely incapacitated and we see him

513
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 4: sailing throws, like, I'll pay my money and know that

514
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 4: I made the wrong bats, but you know, Jimmy makes

515
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 4: like two or three just like bad mistakes every game.

516
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a terrible quarterback.

517
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: But like he's going to give you some turnover opportunities

518
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 4: like every game. It happens every game, and I feel

519
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,479
Speaker 4: like if the Bengals can capitalize on that get a

520
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 4: turnover to I really like their chances here.

521
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: So I think the only thing I'll say is the

522
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: good team coming off a bad loss goes both ways, right,

523
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: because the forty nine ers right coming off that loss,

524
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: I mean that honestly, neutral field, everyone healthy, who's the

525
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 2: better team?

526
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: Do you think in your mind forty nine Ers are

527
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: the Bengals?

528
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: I mean, to me, it's still really close.

529
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: Dan, Like, I have a greater belief in this Bengals

530
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 4: team maybe than I should, But you know, I like

531
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 4: there was a point early in the season where I

532
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 4: thought they could be a legitimate AFC Championship contender. I'm

533
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 4: not sure if I still believe that now, like they've

534
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 4: there have been some some leaks exposed, I think, but

535
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 4: I still think it's a pretty good team.

536
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean again, and there's you know, for me,

537
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: it's been personally something where I have just been avoiding them,

538
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: and again it has not always worked out.

539
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: I faded them and they have romped at times.

540
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,959
Speaker 2: But I do think that especially with the injuries, I

541
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 2: liked it before, Pat, I love it really now.

542
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: Like even if Burrow's like, I'm good.

543
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: And he looks gonna warm up, I mean, you know,

544
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: he takes a hit or something on the hand a

545
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: little bit like just makes me too worried with it.

546
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: But this is good.

547
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 2: I think it's good that we're on different sides, and

548
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: I know we'll have six bets, but it'll be different.

549
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: And the one thing I will say to our audience,

550
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: by the way, is because Pat and I talk all

551
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: the time, obviously.

552
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: We feel when we get a pick wrong.

553
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 2: Like we were taxing Pat on Thanksgiving because you were

554
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,239
Speaker 2: on before Thanksgiving and you had the total four the

555
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: Dallas uh Las Vegas game wrong and you were upset

556
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: and you thought you had gotten the Detroit Chicago game

557
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: wrong because you would bet the money line yourself on

558
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: a personal play, but you had actually taken Detroit with

559
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: the spread. But I remember how bad you felt about it,

560
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: and I always feel the.

561
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 1: Same way too.

562
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: I hope everybody understands that, like when we give out picks,

563
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 2: like we want you guys to.

564
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: Be able to be profitable. So I thinks, so one

565
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: of us.

566
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: Pat is going to be really good at you know,

567
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 2: right before we do our fantasy show on the recap,

568
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: one of us is going to be in a bad mood.

569
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 4: So oh yeah, there's not going to be any trash

570
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 4: talking about that whatsoever.

571
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: We'll be fine.

572
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 4: Can I add one more thing about that game, just

573
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 4: one less points to make. I mean with the unit

574
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 4: versus unit matchups. One I forgot the pinpoint was just

575
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: the Bengals receivers against this forty nine or secondary. Yeah,

576
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 4: if the forty nine ers have a glaring achilles heel,

577
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 4: it is their secondary. And just you know that they

578
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 4: don't have very many capable cornerbacks. And you know, if

579
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 4: we get a healthy enough t Higgins, the Bengals can

580
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: deploy three very good wide receivers against a pretty terrible

581
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 4: group of cornerbacks.

582
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: But you know, again that all comes back.

583
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 4: To Burrow's ability to deliver tight FROs and you know

584
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 4: overcome that finger injury. So yes, yeah, that is the

585
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: Burrow finger could definitely torpedo this one for me and

586
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 4: you know, have you grinning ear to hear on Sunday

587
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 4: night day?

588
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 2: It's very rare, Pat, but I'm a happy man on

589
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: Sunday night. But let's hope for this time, and I

590
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: certainly will not rub it in as I hope you

591
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 2: don't if you are correct as well. My last pick, Pat,

592
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: I don't know how you're gonna feel about this one,

593
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: and I've kind of agonized that it because this is

594
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: one Pat where I had an initial instinct when I

595
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: saw the line and I talked about it on Monday,

596
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: and then as I dug into it, I didn't feel

597
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: quite as great about it. But I don't love that

598
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: many games this week, So I'm gonna stick with my

599
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: initial instinct here and I am going to take the

600
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: Ravens visit in Cleveland and right now getting two and

601
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: a half. But the one thing I will say is

602
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: there is there are threes out there, and my book

603
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: at Drackings, for example, is that a three. So I

604
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: would not bet this right now if you are a

605
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: Ravens backer like I am, and if the and if

606
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: the consensus moves to three, that's going to be my

607
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: official play.

608
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: And if it moves down That'll be my.

609
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: Official play wherever it closes closer on Saturday night, because

610
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: I do think that this might get to three here,

611
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: because I think there are a lot of things a

612
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: favorite Cleveland, like they're off a bye, the Ravens are

613
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: absolutely decimated by injury, of course.

614
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's why Harbaugh said that they.

615
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: Went for two, because they didn't have anybody who could

616
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 2: stop the pass anymore. They are coming off of a

617
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: brutal game here. Lamar Jackson has not looked good, and

618
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: I don't I don't ever remember this, pat. I don't

619
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: remember that often where you get a team that plays

620
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: an opposing team, then gets a bye, then plays that

621
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: same team like we've got here with Cleveland, where it's

622
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: basically you've had three weeks to dedicate yourself to Baltimore.

623
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: That's tough for Baltimore for sure, because this is all

624
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: they've had in their head. But I just have no

625
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: faith in Cleveland right now. And I think Baker Mayfield,

626
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: this is a week off does not cure Baker Mayfield.

627
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: Right Like Mayfield, you seem every game pad he looks

628
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: like he's about to just basically walk off. And the

629
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: injuries to the Ravens, especially in their quarterback. We lost

630
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: Marlon Humphrey. That's not that big a deal necessarily with

631
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: a team like Cleveland who doesn't really have that wide

632
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: receiver that threatens you right now, right I mean Donovan

633
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 2: People's Jonans, Travis Landry and the guy who's gonna, you know,

634
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: go deep. He'll get his catches like he did in

635
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: the first game, but still not a guy who really

636
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 2: threatens you. They want to run the ball. That's all

637
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: they really want to do. That's the Ravens strength. Their

638
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: fifth in defensive DVOA against the run. The Ravens are

639
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: well coached, as we know. I think Harbaugh will be

640
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: able to sort of get them through. They sort of

641
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: match up well in what they do. Like the Ravens

642
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: red zone defense is really good. Cleveland's red zone offense

643
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: kind of stinks, and I know that the offense has

644
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 2: really been struggling badly. And Lamar Jackson doesn't look good,

645
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: but I'm hoping this is a little bit of the

646
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: illness that he's been dealing with, and as he gets

647
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: further apart away from that, he'll look back closer to

648
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: what he looked like earlier in the season and Cleveland

649
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: plays a lot of his own that usually you know,

650
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: plays into what Lamar strings are. So again, it's a

651
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: divisional games, it's usually close, especially with the second one.

652
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: They just played a game where Lamar Jackson threw four

653
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: picks and the Ravens still won the game. Like, I

654
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: don't know, man, I think the Ravens are coming out

655
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: of here with a win that they need despite how

656
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: banged up they are.

657
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: I think they're just a better team.

658
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: But I am interested to hear your thoughts because it

659
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: is one where I've debated kind of all week.

660
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one I'm probably not gonna be touching.

661
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: And we've talked about my strange pool to bet the

662
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: Ravens in every single week and play it out as

663
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 4: a league. And I'm on a two game winning streak

664
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 4: to get back to six and six, all right, I

665
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: tentatively have taken the Browns in this just because.

666
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: And the angle that I hooked onto was.

667
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: The weird scheduling quirk that the Browns have just stewed

668
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 4: on this game during their bye week and you know,

669
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: had all this extra time to watch film, and you know,

670
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: it's a pretty competent coaching staff.

671
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: I think on the Cleveland side.

672
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 4: So you mentioned the Marlin Humphrey injury again, I think

673
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 4: this is like one of the few teams that's not

674
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: going to be able to really capitalize on that very much.

675
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 4: Just not a strong group of receivers, not a good quarterback. Yeah,

676
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: Ravens under twenty points in three straights, the Browns thirty

677
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: total points in their last three. This just could be

678
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 4: an absolute rock fight. And you know, I think the

679
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 4: reason I'm going to be laying off in a game that,

680
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 4: you know, could be this low scoring and weird, Like,

681
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: I just think some sort of weird play a turnover,

682
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 4: a fumble return for a touchdown could like totally swing it.

683
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: A special teams play, you know. I just like, I'm

684
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: not going to feel good about whichever side I take

685
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: in this one, So I'm kind of just staying away.

686
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: Maybe we should have made this another underplay for us

687
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: here at forty three given the offensive struggles, Right, maybe

688
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: you go.

689
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: Forty I saw forty four on DraftKings this morning.

690
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: All right, hold on, I'm checking it out. No draftings

691
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: down to forty three.

692
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: It is done forty three, as is.

693
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: A pretty much every book. Actually, there's a lot of

694
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: forty two's and there's forty two and a half's out there.

695
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: So if you want the under go now, I guess

696
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: get it.

697
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: I can understand why it's dropping.

698
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, everybody listens to you, Pat, So that's right. Yeah,

699
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: it's going to continue to drop. I don't hate the

700
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: under in that one too, but I just don't know

701
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: how many unders I can stomach in one week of football.

702
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: So all right, So that's going to be our six plays,

703
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: and you know it's technically five because it really depends

704
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: on which way you want to go here on that

705
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: Bengals forty nine Ers game. But Pat, you are taking

706
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: the Jaguars and the Titans under forty three and a half,

707
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: the Jets getting five and a half from the Saints,

708
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: and the Bengals getting one from the forty nine ers.

709
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: I'm on the other side of that one. I'm getting

710
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers laying one point to the Bengals,

711
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: the Panthers and the Falcons under forty two and a half,

712
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: and the Ravens getting two and a half from the Browns.

713
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: Let's quickly run through the remaining spreads pack if that

714
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: works for you, Yes, sir, start with tonight. Everybody's gonna

715
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: know already, So you're either gonna have a ton of

716
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: credibility or everybody's gonna be like, I'm fading whatever that

717
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: dude is doing. It's now the consensus line pad other

718
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: than our book of DraftKings, which is still at three.

719
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: The consensus line is now three and a half here

720
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: with the Vikings laying three and a half points in

721
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: this game.

722
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 4: I'm not sure which I like more getting that hook

723
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 4: on the field goal or getting even money to get

724
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: points with the Steelers against Kirk Cousins in a primetime game.

725
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: I've already read the script for how this game turns out.

726
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: Dan Kirk Cousins doesn't play well and the Vikings lose.

727
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: So what, yes, exactly?

728
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: I mean, like Kirk, He's played so consistently poorly in

729
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: primetime games, and like it is in the point at

730
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: the point where I think that is a thing. You

731
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: just wonder if as many tight games as the Vikings

732
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: have played, like if they didn't hit the tipping point

733
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: with the loss to Detroit, if they aren't just ready

734
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: to pack it in, and you know, in a game

735
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 4: where some of the coaching was just you know, I know,

736
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 4: my friends up in Minnesota were totally up in arms

737
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: over just some of the play.

738
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: Calling last week.

739
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 4: So and we've talked about the Steelers in desperation mode,

740
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: how that is normally a pretty good time to get them. Yes,

741
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: they did sort of stave off elimination last week. You know,

742
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: maybe that was their desperation mode game. Can they have

743
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 4: two of the desperation mode games in a row. But

744
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 4: this one is a big one for them, Like they

745
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: need this one too, And I you know, kind of

746
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: like them getting the points here against just you know,

747
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: squirrely Minnesota team with the Cousins factor and Cousins without

748
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 4: his Adam Feelin's security blanket.

749
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big thing.

750
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: That's a big thing.

751
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: Now, Dalvin Cook made play apparently as we were talking

752
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: about earlier, which is surprising to me. But I can't

753
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: imagine he's going to be at one hundred percent if

754
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: he does go at this point.

755
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: I think that doesn't really move the needle for you,

756
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: does it?

757
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: No, not at all, And because Alexander Madison's are perfectly

758
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: capable back anyway. And I wouldn't expect Alvin Cook to

759
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: be at full strength regardless of if he plays. I

760
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: have not I full disc like I've not bet a

761
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: side on this. I do have a prop bet on

762
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: kJ Osbourne over forty one and a half receiving yards.

763
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: But I think the loss of Deeling is big.

764
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: Obviously ten of his twenty five touchdowns there, I mean,

765
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: Cousins played well this year, twenty five touchdowns, three picks.

766
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: Like I actually didn't even fully realize that until I

767
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: was looking up that sid. I was like, Wow, that's fascinating.

768
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: But we've seen the script and this is the normal

769
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: spot where you would back the Steelers, which is the

770
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: road underdog in a game they need to win with

771
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: their backs against the wall. Mike Tomlin gets them up

772
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: for those games. Man.

773
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: But it's probably something I'll stay away from.

774
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: But are you on officially the Steelers getting It's not

775
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: gonna be one of your bets, Pat, don't worry, You're

776
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: not laying it out.

777
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: But Steelers getting three and a half from the Vikings?

778
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: Are you betting that?

779
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 4: I have put my own hard earned money on it already, Dan,

780
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 4: And isn't it fun to know that? Right now listeners

781
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 4: are laughing at us because Kirk Cousin through for three

782
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: hundred yards and three touchdowns. Dalvin Cook ran for one

783
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty and another touchdown, and you know everyone's

784
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 4: just calling us idiots right now.

785
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine. They do.

786
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: They do that for me anyway, so we're all good.

787
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: How about the Raiders visiting the Chiefs. This is one

788
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: that I kind of like when I first looked at it.

789
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: Pat on Monday, the Chiefs are laying nine and a

790
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 2: half at home. What do you think.

791
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: Generally, I've been disappointed when taking the Chiefs laying a

792
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: lot of points. I'm starting to feel a little better

793
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 4: about it. Not necessarily the offense, but their defense is

794
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 4: very quietly held five straight opponents to seventeen or fewer points.

795
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 4: Like the Chiefs defenses. You know, after being a laughing

796
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 4: stock the first five or six weeks of the season,

797
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 4: totally turn things around. The offense hasn't turned things around.

798
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: I mean, they look terrible again against Denver last week.

799
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.

800
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 4: Las Vegas has scored sixteen points or fewer in four

801
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: of their last five, the one exception being that thirty

802
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 4: six point outburst against Dallas on Thanksgiving, and I just

803
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: don't think they're going to be able to put up

804
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 4: enough points against the Chiefs. And you figure the Chiefs

805
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: have got a breakout at home one of these times.

806
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 4: It just seems like they're kind of due for the explosion.

807
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: They beat the Raiders forty one to fourteen the last

808
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 4: time they played in Vegas, so I kind of do

809
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: like the Chiefs here laying the big points.

810
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: For me.

811
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: I look more towards the total at this one, and

812
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like I liked it when it opened.

813
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: I think it was forty nine or forty nine and

814
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: a half. It sounds forty eight because I do think

815
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: that the Chiefs have not gone crazy on offensive late.

816
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: Their defense is, as you said, playing exceptionally well. The

817
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: Raiders are not putting up a ton of points. The

818
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: strikes a game the Chiefs probably win pretty easily, is

819
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: my guest, although I'm not sure I'm willing to lay

820
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: the nine and a half, but it strikes me as

821
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 2: a game that's again something that is not a shootout

822
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: or anything like that, and I think it leans towards

823
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: the under at forty eight. I don't love it as

824
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: much as I did it forty nine and a half,

825
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: but I did take it there, so you know, it's

826
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: probably mostly a stay away.

827
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: From me at this point.

828
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: But if anything, I leaned the under Titans. We talked

829
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: about the total, Papa, what about the spread eight and

830
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: a half now is higher when it opened here, but

831
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: it's eight and a half now as we sit here.

832
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 3: Will not touch this one.

833
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 4: I just don't feel good enough about the Titans covering

834
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: a big spread. Yeah, they're just they just haven't been

835
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: quite good enough lately. I mean, if you forced me

836
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: to play this one, I'd probably give the Jaguars the

837
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 4: points and take the Titans.

838
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm just laying.

839
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: Off completely agree. If I had to go one way,

840
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: I'd probably go to the Jaguars. But I don't want

841
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: to touch it whatsoever, Nor do I want to really

842
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: go near the Seahawks laying eight and a half to

843
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: the Texans. I will say this bad and maybe this

844
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: was done when a were seven and a half at open.

845
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: I teased them down. I included them the teaser, and

846
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: I tease them down to one and a half because

847
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: I do think they're going to win this game any

848
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: game where Again, we talked about all these teams are

849
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: still in.

850
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: The playoff hunt.

851
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: You know, at four and eight they go to five

852
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: and eight, who knows, you know, the Texans barely put

853
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 2: up a fight anymore.

854
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't feel confident that they'll cover the eight and

855
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: a half points spread, but I think they'll win.

856
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: So I did tease them down when it was seven

857
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: and a half to one and a half. But that's

858
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 2: about the only lean I have on this game.

859
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the Seattle defense is not the joke

860
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 4: that I thought it might be this season. They've actually

861
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: been decent at times, and you know, I don't think

862
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 4: the loss of Jamal Adams really hurts that much. So

863
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: I tend to feel the same way like their past

864
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 4: defense has been capable enough that I'm not too worried

865
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: about Davis Mills right having any sort of uprising against them.

866
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: You know, I do think they were going to win,

867
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 4: but I just hate.

868
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: That spread too much. I hate it.

869
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't take the Seattle on lay more than

870
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 4: a touchdown.

871
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: It's just no. Never can.

872
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: How about the pat We talked about the Tuttle Panthers

873
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: at home. They're laying the two and a half here

874
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: to the Falcons. Now it's juice towards the Panthers. It's

875
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 2: minus one eighteen. It's even at two and a half

876
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: here for the Falcons if you take them getting the points.

877
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: So what do you think?

878
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of another game. I hate and don't like

879
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: taking a side on this. I just don't know what

880
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 4: to expect out of Cam Newton.

881
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: This game is the main problem.

882
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: If I was confident enough that he was going to

883
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 4: be able to generate offense purely with his legs, I mean,

884
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: he was just so bad passing the last time we

885
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 4: saw him, Like it just scares me off the Panthers.

886
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 4: Another game where it forced you, I would probably take Carolina,

887
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 4: But I just don't really feel good about either side here.

888
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, did oh.

889
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: I would definitely take Carolina if I'm forced to go

890
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: one way or another, because again, I do see them

891
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: just saying like, all right, we're just gonna run the

892
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: ball NonStop. We're not going to allow Camp to hurt

893
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: us and their defense being able to hold down the Falcons.

894
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: So I lean the Panthers at under Afield goal. But

895
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: I'm not putting my money on Cam Newton in that sense,

896
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: other than I'm putting my money on Cam Newton to

897
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: not be able to put up a ton of points.

898
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: That's where I'm going with that.

899
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 2: The Washington football team is getting now four and a half.

900
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: It was four and open.

901
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: It's still four to a couple of books, including at

902
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: bet MGM. DraftKings for US pat is at four and

903
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 2: a half. Here Washington hosting Dallas.

904
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 4: So everything about this game wants like I almost wanted

905
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: to put Washington as the best bat almost. They've rattled

906
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: off four straight wins. One of them was against the Buccaneers,

907
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 4: like the number one DVOA team at Carolina at Las Vegas.

908
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 4: So a couple of decent road wins beat Seattle. This

909
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: team's playing really well. But here's the thing that kind

910
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: of worries me d In Like, I know Montes Sweat

911
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: by the metrics, like hasn't been having the best of seasons.

912
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: They've already lost Chase Young, one of their primary edge rush. Well,

913
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 4: you know they've got the two book end edge rushes,

914
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 4: Young and Montest Sweat together, that's a pretty good duo.

915
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: They lost one, now they've gotten either. I mean this

916
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: it reminds me of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

917
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 4: You know when King Arthur meets the Black Knight and

918
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 4: turns to cross across the bridge and they have the

919
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: sword fight, Like he cuts off one of the Black Knights.

920
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Black Knight.

921
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: Just keeps fighting with the sword hand, you know, but

922
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 4: now they've cut off the other arm Montes Sweat is

923
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: the second arm YEP.

924
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: And if you can't get a pass rush, like I

925
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: know that.

926
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 4: The Washington has been very good at generating pressure from

927
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 4: the inside, but without any pressure from the outside, and

928
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 4: this Dallas team, Dak Prescott and these receivers being able

929
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: to pick away at a very vulnerable football team secondary, Like,

930
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 4: I just don't feel good enough about Washington's ability to

931
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: play decent enough defense to cover this spread. So I'm

932
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: laying off it. I mean, I really want to take

933
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: the football team here, Dan, but I just can't.

934
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: I'm in total agreement with basically everything that you said,

935
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: which is, I look at this, I think Joe like

936
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

937
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: When we looked at it early.

938
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 2: Everything says to me that Washington keeps this game close.

939
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: They're playing really well, but at some point, at some point,

940
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: like they're just not going to be able to lose

941
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: Chase Young and Sweat and continue to basically put up

942
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: these defensive performances. I don't know how their defense has

943
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: been playing so well, so it's a stay. I'm still

944
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: not taking Dallas like you right, it's just to stay

945
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: away for me at this point.

946
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: Is this one of the rare overs we might look

947
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: at Dan?

948
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: What do you have? The total?

949
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 3: Forty eight?

950
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: So, I mean, I love that Washington has found this

951
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 4: new offensive identity when yeah, Tonio Gibson coming back to

952
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 4: life and you know that making Taylor Heineke potentially more effective.

953
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 4: And now they've Curtis Samuel back. He's been playing limited snaps,

954
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: but it's another day jewish weapon who can rip off

955
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: a chunk play possibly if they get the ball.

956
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: In his hands. So I kind of like the over

957
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 3: here at forty eight.

958
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm staying away from that.

959
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: I your points make sense, but I Washington seems like

960
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: a team that is committed to taking two minutes to

961
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 2: get every first down and getting you know, six first

962
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: downs every drive in these like we're gonna gain twelve

963
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: yards every single like like that's just what we're gonna

964
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: do and just we're gonna keep it going. So I

965
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: don't lean under, but I'm not willing to go for

966
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 2: my first over of the week that with that one.

967
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: But you you take it, you'd be brave for me.

968
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: Broncos are at home link ten to the Lions. I

969
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: feel like this might have been eight and a half

970
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: earlier in the week of Memory Serves, and I kind

971
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: of like the Broncos there. I don't want to fait

972
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 2: the Lions again, but it's certainly if there's a letdown

973
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: spot for a one ten and one team, this would

974
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: be it and the Broncos fighting for their lives at home.

975
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: But at ten, it just it seems a little too

976
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: rich for me to go either way.

977
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Teddy Bridgewater has just looked so shaky lately, even

978
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 4: though there's some maybe get right spots for him in

979
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 4: this matchup. Like I know, Detroit's had all sorts of

980
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 4: trouble with slot receivers, and I think Jerry Judy could

981
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 4: feast in this matchup.

982
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 3: If Javonte Williams gets more work.

983
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 4: I mean, we saw what he did to Kansas City,

984
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 4: and you know against Detroit that's had a lot of

985
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: problems with running backs. And yes, maybe Detroit is fat

986
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 4: and happy Dan after that first loss.

987
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: There was one ten in one.

988
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: Now you know, who.

989
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: Could blame them for being fat and happy? But ten

990
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: points for this Denver team is just too much. There's

991
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: just not been enough Denver offense for us to feel

992
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 4: good about.

993
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: That, I agree with you, Chargers are at home laying

994
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: ten against the Giants sounds like Mike Lennon. There's optimism

995
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: about Mike Glennon being able to clear congussion protocol and

996
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: not try that really matters to you, Pat, But ten

997
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: points here with.

998
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 4: The charters, Yeah, I mean Mike Glennon or Jake from

999
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 4: is really a drop off there.

1000
00:44:59,480 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: Ye.

1001
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: You know, this was one I actually considered as a

1002
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: best bet for the Chargers, and I might have done

1003
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 4: it if not for the COVID status of their wide receivers.

1004
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 4: And maybe it won't matter if Jalen Geiton and Josh

1005
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 4: Palmer are decent backup options, I guess, And you know

1006
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: they've got a trio of tight ends, and.

1007
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's possible Williams plays.

1008
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: Though it's Yeah. Has Alan been rolled out?

1009
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: He actually hasn't. He actually hasn't.

1010
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: But I think he tested positive, and I think it's

1011
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: almost not impossible entirely given the protocols. But I don't

1012
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: think anybody who has tested positive on the day that

1013
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,479
Speaker 2: he tested positive has been able to make it back

1014
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: for that week's game yet.

1015
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: So he hasn't been rolled out.

1016
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: But Williams is just a close contact and so if

1017
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: he does test positive before game, he can be cleared

1018
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: in play for sure.

1019
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1020
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: So I think this Giants offense is just an absolute

1021
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 4: toxic way stumph with the quarterback situation, with the just

1022
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 4: awful offensive line. You know, I don't think Saquon Barkley

1023
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 4: can create an offense out of thin air by himself.

1024
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: The myriad injury problems at wide receiver, you know, and

1025
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 4: the Chargers have just been like, this has been a

1026
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 4: pretty tough team. There's been some slips, but overall, like

1027
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 4: this is a really good team, and I think Herbert

1028
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 4: can create offense even if he doesn't have his two receivers.

1029
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 4: The one thing that gives me pause here, Dan, is

1030
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: that the Giants defense doesn't suck right, like they might

1031
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: be able to turn this into like a seventeen to

1032
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: ten games. That's the one concern I have. But I'm

1033
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 4: still probably going to take the Chargers for a you know,

1034
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: one unit bets at minus ten.

1035
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 2: How about the Bucks taking on the bills here. It

1036
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: wasn't three for a lot of the week, it's now

1037
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: three and a half in the consensus.

1038
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 4: I'm scared of this one, Dan, I like, I don't

1039
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 4: I could talk myself into over under box Bills, Like

1040
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 4: give me an angle I can sink my teeth into.

1041
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of this one. I'll

1042
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: be totally.

1043
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: Honest, totally stay away from me, absolutely, Like, if I'm

1044
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: forced to choose, I think with the Hook, I might

1045
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: take the Bills, just because you know, they're desperate, you know,

1046
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: and they were poorly coached in that game against the Patriots,

1047
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: Like they kept trying to run the ball for whatever reason.

1048
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: They should have stopped because Alan could kind of throw

1049
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: it through the wind and they looked much better when

1050
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: they threw. So they're probably a little desperate and a

1051
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: little mad. So if I had to go somewhere, I

1052
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: take the Hook with the Bills.

1053
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: But I am running away from it.

1054
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fun, sexy game.

1055
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1056
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 4: The only thing I could maybe talk myself into, I

1057
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 4: think is the under here m hm fifty three and a.

1058
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 3: Half just because you mentioned it. The Bill.

1059
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: I mean, they're a finesse team. They can't run the ball.

1060
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 4: They're not going to be able to run the ball

1061
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: against Tampa effectively, so they're gonna be one dimensional and

1062
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 4: Brady has kind of quietly been not that great lately. Sure,

1063
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 4: seven interceptions in his last five games, and over his

1064
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: last four games collectively, he's averaging under seven point yards

1065
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 4: per pass attempt. I mean, we've talked about this on

1066
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 4: our Sunday night show. Very often he is settling for

1067
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 4: the checkdowns and not really hunting downfield or you know,

1068
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 4: the quick hitters to Godwin, like the quick bubble screens,

1069
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 4: or the quick slants over the middle, or many many

1070
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: many dumpoffs to Leonard Fournette. So it's not like this

1071
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 4: is a quick strike, beat you thirty yards at a

1072
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 4: time offense. This is kind of a you know, like

1073
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: ball control passing.

1074
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 3: Game in a lot of ways.

1075
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so fifty three and a half seems a little

1076
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 4: tall to me.

1077
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: You don't have to talk me into an under too

1078
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: hard there, but I do think Actually I log this

1079
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: in our app, which again you can do. You have

1080
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: the betting pros app even if you're not a you know,

1081
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: somebody who does this for a living or anything like that.

1082
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: You can log your pick. See where you stack up

1083
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: on a leader board with other users. How about your

1084
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: packers pat taking on the bears. This is stuck at

1085
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: twelve and a half pretty much generally speaking, since it

1086
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: opened kind of a weird line.

1087
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: What do you think.

1088
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: It's it's tilted towards the Bears.

1089
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: I think at twelve and a half though, right, I've

1090
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: got to have minus one ten pretty evenly for us

1091
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: all that you're looking at DraftKings right at draftings minus

1092
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: one twenty at twelve and a half, where the Packers

1093
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 2: are even at minus twelve and a half.

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Speaker 1: Everywhere else I see Pat, it's one ten on both sides.

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Speaker 1: It's just drafting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Packers have not had that game. They seem

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00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: to have one game a year, and it often happens

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00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 4: against a divisional rival and a lesser divisional rival like

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00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 4: the Normally it's the Lions. Normally they sleep walk through

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00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 4: their home game against the Lions. They didn't do that

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00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 4: this year. Maybe it's the Bears where they have that

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00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 4: one game of a year they just sleepwalk through a

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00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: game at home. But man, it's hard to back the

1104
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 4: Bears here with any confidence with Justin Fields coming.

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00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 3: Off the injury.

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00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: Maybe the Packers get JayR Alexander back, adding to a

1107
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 4: pass defense that has already within the last six weeks

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00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 4: shut down Patrick Mahomes, Kyler, Murray, Russell Wilson.

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00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean twelve and a half points is a lot.

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00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not.

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00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: Sure how I feel about that. And I'm just I'm

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00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 4: gonna lay off here.

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Speaker 1: Dan, I'm staying far away.

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Speaker 2: Also, we'll be podcasting during it, Pat, so you won't

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00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: even be able to get to enjoy it for your

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00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: own team there. Yeah, it's just a weird number, and

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00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: I don't really know how I feel. I you know,

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00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 2: Justin Fields will be starting, okay, I guess Alan Robinson back, Okay,

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Speaker 2: But I could see the Packers winning this game by

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Speaker 2: twenty four points, or I could see them just sort

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00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: of like kind of have a general malaise. Is they're like,

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00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: you know, probably don't need to do too much to

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00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 2: win this game and not pushing it or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: Last one, Pat Rams busitying the Cardinals Monday Night Football.

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00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: It's two right now. The Cardinals laying two was two

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00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: and a half earlier. There's still some two and a

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00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: halfs out there. Any feelings on this one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of leaning towards the Cardinals here laying

1129
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 4: the points. I mean, last time they played in Week four,

1130
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 4: the Rams were on top of the world and they

1131
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 4: kind of got drilled thirty seven to twenty. And I

1132
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: think we've only had more questions about the Rams developed

1133
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 4: since then, and a lot of them are on the

1134
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball. I mean, they did beat

1135
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: Jacksonville thirty three to seven last week, but before that,

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00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: they give it thirty six to Green Bay, thirty one

1137
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: to the forty nine Ers, twenty eight to the Titans,

1138
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: twenty two to the Texans, and nineteen to the Lions.

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00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 4: So they have not been playing good defense, Like this

1140
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 4: is not the shutdown Rams defense A lot of people think,

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00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, a lot of people seem to think,

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00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 4: based on the recent results recent seasons that this is

1143
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 4: still like a really good defense. But all the metrics

1144
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 4: say the Rams have been utterly average defensively this year.

1145
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 4: So I think the Cardinals are going to be able

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00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: to score on this one. I don't know if the

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00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 4: Rams are going to be able to score that much

1148
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 4: on the Cardinals with some of their offensive struggles.

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00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: I like the Cardinals here.

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00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: I do too.

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00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: If I have to go one way, I would take

1152
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. I you know, haven't been all in on

1153
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: the Cardinals this whole year. I've kind of been waiting

1154
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: for the shoot a drop, but you know, with Murray

1155
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: healthy right now, they are just a better team than

1156
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: the Rams, who are struggling, as you mentioned, defensively and offensively.

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00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: I mean Matthew Stafford, you know, has he has his games,

1158
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: but you know without Robert Woods. Obviously, Odell Beckham Junior,

1159
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: as much as he stepped in, has been banged up.

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Speaker 1: Of course, So I agree with you here.

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Speaker 4: I do also, I don't have current injury information, but

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00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 4: I know that they're very good. Starting center Brian Allen

1163
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: got hurt last week early on, and their left guard

1164
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 4: David Edwards University of Wisconsin shout out.

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Speaker 3: Both injured last week.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what their status is, and if those

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00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 4: two don't play, protection is going to be an issue

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00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 4: for staff Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point.

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00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen anything on them either, but obviously

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00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: we'll need to monitor that as the week goes on.

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Speaker 1: All right, Pat, We've done it, We've gone through everything.

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00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: Everybody has our picks already from earlier and again we

1174
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: will see about that forty nine Ers Bengals game. We'll

1175
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: see how that one turns out, and maybe it'll it'll

1176
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: you know, push it at one and we can both

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00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: sort of you know, tip our hats and you know,

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00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: not be too upset there on Sunday night, and.

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00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 4: The dog stayed quiet. Dan, the chloroform worked perfectly. I

1180
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 4: don't want to get the pe of people mad at me.

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Speaker 3: Just forget I.

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00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: Said that was a joke. He's earned an extra bone.

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00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: Pat My dog, I'm sure is downstairs staring at the

1184
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: neighborhood Bobcat really ready to go out. And if he

1185
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: ever ran out there and saw the Bobcat, he would

1186
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: then turn over and like show his belly or something

1187
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: because he's a whim. But anyway, thank you for popping

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Speaker 2: on everybody. Enjoy your NFL Sunday. We'll be back again

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00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: on Monday talking about an early look at the week

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Speaker 2: fifteen lines crazy that we're here, ready an early look

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00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: then on Monday or Tuesday, depending on when we get

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Speaker 2: it out.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your weekend, everybody. We'll talk to you again then