Speaker 1: And That's what You Really Missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to you and That's what you Really missed podcast.
Speaker 1: This is a recap and this is the spinoff of Glee.
Speaker 2: Pretty much, Welcome to the spinoff, Jenna. People are loving this.
Speaker 2: People are loving your reaction to New York. I'm loving
Speaker 2: your reaction to New York. Hearing we talked to some fans, Yes,
Speaker 2: and fans love this part of this show so much.
Speaker 2: I didn't know, and I don't think any of us
Speaker 2: knew when we were filming this how much people liked it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people talked about it for a long time, Like
Speaker 1: at the beginning when we started this, they were like,
Speaker 1: end of five six, you're going to be shocked. It's
Speaker 1: so great.
Speaker 2: We love it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you're crazy, Like.
Speaker 2: I got great snoring it though I didn't remember. And
Speaker 2: it's it's very exciting and I can't overstate it that
Speaker 2: I love seeing it through your eyes for the first time.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Well let's talk about it then, because there's
Speaker 1: more to see. This aired on April eighth, twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: The number one song was Happy by forel.
Speaker 2: Still A number one movie is Captain America Winter Soldier.
Speaker 2: Funnily enough, a new Captain American movie's coming out right now.
Speaker 2: So here we are Glee News. This week April eighth,
Speaker 2: the music for bash EP was released. Featured six tracks.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of music. There's a lot of music,
Speaker 2: including the Amber Riiley original color Blind, And if I
Speaker 2: remember correctly, color Blind was written by the great Emily Sonde,
Speaker 2: who is an incredible singer and songwriter.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, now I remember that because I thought Amber
Speaker 1: brought that to them and wrote it. But I don't
Speaker 1: think she wrote it, but she brought it to them.
Speaker 1: She brought it to them, right, Yeah, it was like
Speaker 1: a song she was doing.
Speaker 2: Let me send her a voice note.
Speaker 1: There's like a lot of controversy around colorblind also.
Speaker 2: Is there like on Reddit? Were you on the Reddit
Speaker 2: reading the color Blind?
Speaker 1: I girdled it and like because I was trying to
Speaker 1: remember if she had written it or like, because I
Speaker 1: knew it was like her song. I knew there was
Speaker 1: like some version, but it's a little like there she's
Speaker 1: singing Colorblind to her white boyfriend, like it's that whole thing,
Speaker 1: and I I can see what they're saying, Like he
Speaker 1: was the one who was like engaging in like Mi
Speaker 1: Greg rassion is the whole episode.
Speaker 2: And so like I mean, Sam was out of control.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so then they were like people were like
Speaker 1: shock that she was singing a song called Colorblind.
Speaker 2: What it looked like is that they backed into the
Speaker 2: storyline from Amber bringing them the song, and that was
Speaker 2: like the way that they chose to write it in
Speaker 2: got it. But yeah, then it presents a whole lot
Speaker 2: of questionable things for sure.
Speaker 1: Also, by the way, Captain America the Winter Soldier at
Speaker 1: number one, I've seen that over one hundred times and
Speaker 1: I watch it on the regular.
Speaker 2: You love it, I love it, all said love it.
Speaker 1: Our friend Sebastian's in it, of course, which is like,
Speaker 1: you know, applause. But the movie itself is great. It's
Speaker 1: one of the best Avenger films they have in Marvel World.
Speaker 2: I completely agree, if not the best. I also think,
Speaker 2: you know, we mentioned Hot Texas Glenn Powell before and
Speaker 2: like seeing him become a movie star, but Sebastian Stan
Speaker 2: actually was the first one. You were much closer with
Speaker 2: Sebastian than I ever was, but he was around and.
Speaker 1: Now he's like nominated for an Oscar nominated for it.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's crazy watching all these people. He's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Captain America's Civil War two top of my list.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Oh maybe that's my favorite.
Speaker 1: Actually, Civil Wars excellent. Really big Marvel fans were here.
Speaker 1: It was also announced that Charley McLain would be joining
Speaker 1: the show for several episodes as a New York socialite
Speaker 1: intent on making Blaine into a star.
Speaker 2: Which was a crazy experience. Yeah. That same week, it
Speaker 2: was announced that the fifth season was reduced to twenty
Speaker 2: episodes instead of twenty two due to the production hiatus
Speaker 2: at the start of the season. Aha, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Got it. This was directed by Brad Beaker around my
Speaker 1: Ian Brennan.
Speaker 2: We get whoopee back, which is always a plus. Yes,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of songs, Jenna, so many songs we
Speaker 2: have known as alone by Blaine, Kurt and Rachel.
Speaker 1: You make me feel like a natural woman of course
Speaker 1: by certain.
Speaker 2: Mercedes, Broadway Baby by Blaine and Rachel. Blaine was singing
Speaker 2: he was this episode.
Speaker 1: Now while I'm around by Blaine co.
Speaker 2: Ed, Yes, color Blind by Mercedes.
Speaker 1: And I'm Still Here by Kurt. Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it was you. I mean it was me,
Speaker 2: then it was you announced Leah. It's Leah's hundredth episode appearance. Hello,
Speaker 2: I mean as the leader of the show. Basically, she
Speaker 2: finally did it. I don't even remember her not being
Speaker 2: in episodes.
Speaker 1: There were uh two, I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's like no Glee without Rachel.
Speaker 1: It's weird, right, it's weird without her. But I think
Speaker 1: there's one episode that we had recently that was just
Speaker 1: all McKinley. Yes, there was, right, So there's one. This
Speaker 1: isn't an unofficial Stephen Soundheim episode featuring many of his songs.
Speaker 1: It's unofficial. It should have just been official. We should
Speaker 1: have just like done it because like I'm a huge
Speaker 1: Steven Soundheim fan. We didn't do Stephen Sondheim. Like we
Speaker 1: did a little bit of Stephen Seim, but we didn't
Speaker 1: really Stephen Sondheim. No, and they absolutely should have. Could
Speaker 1: you imagine that would have been stacked? That would have
Speaker 1: been two episodes. If I wasn't in that in any
Speaker 1: of those I would have been, there would have been flames. Yeah, fury,
Speaker 1: fury to the end to degree. Steven same is the
Speaker 1: person that I would have dinner with. You know, when
Speaker 1: people ask you like alive or Dead? Yes? Do you
Speaker 1: have dinner with Steve?
Speaker 2: Is there a song that you would have wanted to
Speaker 2: have done on the show from Stephen sometime?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like Sophie's choice. One of my
Speaker 1: favorite is the Miller's Son and I've never sang it
Speaker 1: before actually, but the Miller's Son from A Little Night
Speaker 1: Music Jenna.
Speaker 2: It's one of those, like another I have missed opportunity.
Speaker 2: How do we not do Somehi?
Speaker 1: I don't know, And I think they were like, oop,
Speaker 1: let's just do a bunch of some time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, like Darren said, he pitched one,
Speaker 2: but of course this is as closest we got. But
Speaker 2: that would got to do a bunch of them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true, that makes sense. Okay. This is the second
Speaker 2: time Mercedes sings two solos and a single episode. It's
Speaker 2: been a while, though, This is the first since.
Speaker 1: Grilled Jesus, Give Me More. This is also the second
Speaker 1: time that Mercedes sings two solos too or about the
Speaker 1: same person in a single episode, the first being Grilled
Speaker 1: Jesus when she sang to Kurt and now obviously with
Speaker 1: Them Sam.
Speaker 2: And with Colorblind. This is the second time an actor
Speaker 2: sings their own song in an episode, the first being
Speaker 2: Matt Morrison, who sang still Got Tonight in New.
Speaker 1: York, That's Right, and the episode version of not Well
Speaker 1: I'm Around is a live solo by Blaine, whereas the
Speaker 1: studio version also includes Mercedes Rachel musam Really.
Speaker 2: This is the third time Darren performs a live solo
Speaker 2: version of a song. The other two r Teenage Dream
Speaker 2: Acoustic version from the Breakup and Against All Odds Take
Speaker 2: a Look at Me Now from Guilty Pleasures.
Speaker 1: This episode marks the final appearance by Carmen Diibodeaux.
Speaker 2: Boo.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of her, though. I will say
Speaker 1: it like I feel like I got my carbon to
Speaker 1: show Phil it's true.
Speaker 2: Okay, you have an egot on the show. You you
Speaker 2: better bring her back as long as it's willing to
Speaker 2: be there. I would also like to point out we
Speaker 2: mentioned before that we last episode we were using all
Speaker 2: the same locations in New York. We got a new
Speaker 2: location this episode. It is the carousel in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful and we love that carousel. That is a
Speaker 1: real carousel, a real location. We love it. It is beautiful.
Speaker 1: I thought it was. It was used beautifully as well, like,
Speaker 1: let's use a location.
Speaker 2: We start using it again, it comes back. Jenna, Sure, yes,
Speaker 2: that's it. It's like once we get once we get
Speaker 2: access to a location, we're gonna use it. We gotta
Speaker 2: use it, we gotta.
Speaker 1: We're in Okay, Uh, tell me what's up in this episode?
Speaker 2: Okay, Jenna. Rachel takes the next step into admitting to
Speaker 2: her role an funny girl. Meanwhile, Kurt is the victim
Speaker 2: of an attack because of his sexual preference. Oh see
Speaker 2: the way they say that, Yeah, what a different time.
Speaker 2: That was the official Fox publicity summary from back then.
Speaker 2: So all right, all right, it's a preference, Jenna.
Speaker 1: What's a sexual preference? Okay? Moving on, Uh, funny girl's
Speaker 1: in tech rehearsals. Let's talk about Rachel. Okay, she's she's
Speaker 1: in tech for a funny girl. Everybody knows in the
Speaker 1: theater world, if you're in tech, you're not getting out.
Speaker 1: But somehow she manages to get the producer to say
Speaker 1: yes to letting her go to do her Midwinter critique,
Speaker 1: which I will say to start, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's still in school, Like, good for her, but also,
Speaker 1: if you are in a school to be a star
Speaker 1: on Broadway and then you're just become a star on Broadway.
Speaker 2: Like defer, yeah, why are you going to school for
Speaker 2: the thing you're already doing? You're good. Yeah, So her
Speaker 2: point is valid because she does bring that up though, right, yes,
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 1: A lot of people would be like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's good to get your degree and finish. But like,
Speaker 1: nobody we know goes to school for theater except for
Speaker 1: me for college, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: The thing is with her, her whole point is, yeah,
Speaker 2: she does manage to get out. She does a performance,
Speaker 2: and then Thibodeau's like, no, that was a duet. You're
Speaker 2: supposed to do a solo, and she's going to fail them.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, now i'll give you a second chance,
Speaker 2: you can redo it. But of course it was already
Speaker 2: pain in the ass to get out in the first place,
Speaker 2: to do that one performance for Thibodeau. And so as
Speaker 2: much as we want to give Rachel shit for being
Speaker 2: you know, a little crazy, sometimes especially lately, she's really
Speaker 2: feeling herself. I think her point stands here, like you
Speaker 2: just said, where she decides that she doesn't need me
Speaker 2: at it and she's going to quit. Correct because Thibodeau
Speaker 2: is not working with her. I can't come back and
Speaker 2: do this. I didn't have time. We're in tech and
Speaker 2: so I feel like, you know, the initial reaction for
Speaker 2: some maybe like oh, there's Rachel being Rachel again, like, well, no,
Speaker 2: actually she does have a point.
Speaker 1: No, she does have a point.
Speaker 2: I are you explaining to people who don't know what
Speaker 2: tech is? What tech is?
Speaker 1: Okay? So you go into rehearsal spur a show, right, Kevin.
Speaker 1: Rehearse for a show in a studio, usually they draw
Speaker 1: out like fake lines for the state measurements of the
Speaker 1: stage and your numbers so that you know where you
Speaker 1: are on the stage. And then you get into the
Speaker 1: theater and before you can run the show in the theater,
Speaker 1: on the stage, they have to teck it. That means
Speaker 1: that everybody comes together, sound lights, director, staging. It's just
Speaker 1: all the actors and it is laborious. It is so slow.
Speaker 1: You are there for hours. You just bring like bring
Speaker 1: bring something to knit. Yeah, sit backstage and just be
Speaker 1: know what you're in for. And and basically you go
Speaker 1: like mark to mark, scene to scene, spot to spot
Speaker 1: to make sure that everything is in its place. You're
Speaker 1: lick correctly, your your sound is correct, you're in the
Speaker 1: right place. It feels good the whole thing.
Speaker 2: So it's for every department, So like lighting those where
Speaker 2: they're supposed to be, and sound knows where they're supposed
Speaker 2: to be, hitting in certain songs, all of that, yes.
Speaker 1: And ever so that everybody's in sync when you start
Speaker 1: to run the show. So it is, and it's necessary
Speaker 1: for everybody to be there. It's not like, oh, you
Speaker 1: get a stand in.
Speaker 2: How long does a show normally when they're putting up
Speaker 2: a show, how long does tech normally last?
Speaker 1: Like two days?
Speaker 2: Okay? So okay, so it's.
Speaker 1: Not yeah, no, no, no, it's like two days. Like
Speaker 1: everybody like does their prep work right, and then you
Speaker 1: get in and like and then everybody adjusts.
Speaker 2: It's just a long two days.
Speaker 1: How long was your chech for smelling babe? Like a day?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, so that seems right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like two half days basically.
Speaker 1: Rachel performed. Well, first, let's talk about this. Because they perform,
Speaker 1: they're super excited about doing this Winter critique, and Blaine
Speaker 1: and Rachel decide to do a duet. They do Broadway Baby.
Speaker 1: Why we had to do Broadway Baby was it supposed
Speaker 1: to be like not the best, not in terms of
Speaker 1: like their performance, like obviously Lea Darren sound great, and
Speaker 1: like they look great.
Speaker 2: They do look better than ever.
Speaker 1: Right, But the song itself, to me is like that's
Speaker 1: the song you're gonna pick all the time songs.
Speaker 2: It seems like they should know better, yes, right, the
Speaker 2: characters should know better because they're like theater geeks like
Speaker 2: they yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a weird song choice.
Speaker 2: I also have a question logistically, wouldn't Blaine and Rachel
Speaker 2: be in different years?
Speaker 1: None of that matters, okay, I mean they're performing in
Speaker 1: a concert hall with lighting and a piano, like with
Speaker 1: cabaret tables, So that's true. Is like I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's what college looks like.
Speaker 2: I'm also this new version of Glee they are. The
Speaker 2: production is very different because how little is actually on
Speaker 2: the stages now where the concert hall is a real
Speaker 2: concert hall in downtown LA. We're using some downtown LA
Speaker 2: for exteriors or using a lot of actual New York
Speaker 2: for exteriors. The production is very different.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: A lot on the go, yeah, a lot on the goal.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I really enjoyed watching them perform totally.
Speaker 1: I just was like, why is it both follies when
Speaker 1: Steven Sonheim has a hundred other shows, right, but that
Speaker 1: we do two songs from Follies. Anyway, Okay, I've said
Speaker 1: my piece on that. Moving on, I guess the whole
Speaker 1: thing is that Rachel, like Carmen's like, look, you have
Speaker 1: to show up or you're going to fail. You have
Speaker 1: to do your you have to reschedule, or I'm going
Speaker 1: to fail you. Which, to be fair, this was my life.
Speaker 1: I was working and doing this show called Yankees on
Speaker 1: Deck at the time for the Yankees Network, the s Network,
Speaker 1: and I was performing. I was doing that on the
Speaker 1: weekends and during the week I had to travel a
Speaker 1: little bit and then I would go back to school
Speaker 1: and a lot of these classes are performance based. You
Speaker 1: can't just sit in a lecture hall take notes. Somebody
Speaker 1: can photocopy them for you. Well, on exam, like, you
Speaker 1: have to be there. And I was at the risk
Speaker 1: of failing, like a couple of times they were like,
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to fail you if you don't show up,
Speaker 1: and I was like, WHOA.
Speaker 2: How did you manage to because you also graduated in
Speaker 2: three years?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a whole other thing. But I managed
Speaker 1: to somehow show up enough for class for the rest
Speaker 1: of the year, and then I took extra courses outside
Speaker 1: of school though, like the liberal arts courses that I
Speaker 1: had to take, math and you know, ridiculous psychology like
Speaker 1: psych one oh one. I took all those online. They
Speaker 1: were like courses available, so I was able to like
Speaker 1: take multiple credits, yes exactly. But she quits and I
Speaker 1: don't blame her. I actually don't blame her. Now there's
Speaker 1: like it's like a cliffhanger because like, obviously her whole
Speaker 1: life has been revolving around getting into Nyada, going to Nyada,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden she's like.
Speaker 2: See it.
Speaker 1: But I don't blame her. I was, but of course
Speaker 1: it's a TV show.
Speaker 2: So I was thinking about that a lot, because how
Speaker 2: often when you get these opportunities, you don't know when
Speaker 2: they're going to come. And like, how her, like you said,
Speaker 2: her storyline has just been so wrapped around getting to
Speaker 2: New York and getting into Niyada when she discovered Niada existed, right,
Speaker 2: And it seems crazy to just sort of on the surface,
Speaker 2: it feels crazy to just get rid of it all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, like, oh, she's just quitting. It feels
Speaker 2: like she just got there once. She's been there for
Speaker 2: a hot minute. Two she got the dream role, right,
Speaker 2: she's already doing it right.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: These things happened. I was signed up for a full
Speaker 2: semester of college courses. I only found this out during
Speaker 2: the pandemic because I decided to take some classes again.
Speaker 2: But I didn't drop any of them. And did you
Speaker 2: just fail them? F's for an entire semester of full
Speaker 2: course load because I got glee and so I was
Speaker 2: just like, wow, I don't even remember. I was so
Speaker 2: stoked that I have zero memory of ever signing up
Speaker 2: for these classes.
Speaker 1: That's really funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what yeah, I got my script. I was like,
Speaker 2: what do you so?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: These things do happen? I was a year out of
Speaker 2: high school and yeah, I had plans to go to
Speaker 2: college but.
Speaker 1: Whoops, whoopsies you know, yeah, no for sure. Okay, well
Speaker 1: that's kind of the story of Rachel Rachel. Rachel quits NATA. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Blaine's gonna go back and he's gonna kind of tagging
Speaker 1: this on to the end of her storyline. He is
Speaker 1: going to go back and he's gonna perform not while
Speaker 1: I'm around by Toby from Sweeney Chad. So he does
Speaker 1: that a beautiful version of the song and fulfills his
Speaker 1: requirement that carbon Thibodeaux requests in order for him to
Speaker 1: continue on.
Speaker 2: I do think these songs really suit.
Speaker 1: Him, he belongs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it makes sense, Like I it sounds good
Speaker 2: on him. I really enjoyed it. Great choice, you alsay,
Speaker 2: just to go back real quick. I know Lee has
Speaker 2: been doing a lot of musical theaters singing on the
Speaker 2: show lately, but you know, for seasons we were getting
Speaker 2: a lot of like pop songs, but like you, her
Speaker 2: Bread and Butter is theater, and so it is really
Speaker 2: nice to be able to have an excuse to get
Speaker 2: like the two of them to do music.
Speaker 1: Yes, agreed, I'm totally into it. It's like they're very versatile.
Speaker 1: This is their read and Butter.
Speaker 2: But this feels different.
Speaker 1: And we really don't see Daren do a lot of Broadway.
Speaker 1: We do see him do a lot more pop, so
Speaker 1: this is actually really nice.
Speaker 2: A lot of like alt rock, pop rock things, and
Speaker 2: he's getting to really into this side, which I also
Speaker 2: can't you know, if you guys, listen to our interview
Speaker 2: with Darren and he talks about how he sort of
Speaker 2: stumbled into musical theater. I can't get past that, I know,
Speaker 2: especially looking at him now and maybe happy Ending and
Speaker 2: you know all the Broadway shows he's done, right, But
Speaker 2: every time you start singing one of these things, I
Speaker 2: keep thinking of that.
Speaker 1: No, for sure, it is funny because people spend their
Speaker 1: whole lives with like a track of Broadway, right, like
Speaker 1: that's the track, and it was like, not, that was
Speaker 1: not his journey at all.
Speaker 2: No, but he's just so musically gifted.
Speaker 1: Yeah he can. And he's like his camp totally works
Speaker 1: with Broadway. Like he has this camp side of him
Speaker 1: that totally works. True, not saying that his performances are camp,
Speaker 1: but it's just like there's this tone or vibe that.
Speaker 2: He also can appreciate like different, He can appreciate any
Speaker 2: genre of anything and really like nerd out and get
Speaker 2: into it, and so he can also want to go
Speaker 2: for like no, it's like he's yeah, just likes you
Speaker 2: can just do it. You can do it, Okay, So
Speaker 2: Mercedes and Sam are have this.
Speaker 1: Really I didn't even realize that it got this deep
Speaker 1: and we kind of fall into this storyline. I just
Speaker 1: totally forgot about it, but I did remember Color Colorblind
Speaker 1: because there was just a lot of press around it
Speaker 1: at the time. Amber having her song come in and
Speaker 1: whether she wrote it or not, like she was she
Speaker 1: recorded this song, right, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, and we were all, like I think probably a
Speaker 2: lot of the fans of the show, waiting for Amber
Speaker 2: to put out her own music.
Speaker 1: She had said like, you gotta wait, you gotta wait.
Speaker 1: Obviously you you know, she sent you a lot of music, but.
Speaker 2: Just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Okay. So there's this like very cute scene in the
Speaker 1: beginning where Sam's like eating cereal and Mercedes and like
Speaker 1: they're hanging out as.
Speaker 2: Roommates and they were roommates and.
Speaker 1: Their sexual chemistry is undeniable, and they end up looking
Speaker 1: up and Mercedes wants to like keep it hush hush,
Speaker 1: but she introduces Sam to her friend Oh Lord, in
Speaker 1: like the cringiest of cringiest scenes in the entire series.
Speaker 1: Oh ask me, And it's like, for Cord, it hurts
Speaker 1: my heart, it hurts my heart, for Mercedes and for
Speaker 1: her friends, and it's just it's just wrong. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'd like to pass over this scene. Even though it's
Speaker 1: just it's wrong. It's wrong in every way, shape and form.
Speaker 1: We do address it at least, like I'm glad that
Speaker 1: we address it and that it's talked about. It's not
Speaker 1: just him throwing out these lines and like us kind
Speaker 1: of moving past it right correct. And there's also this
Speaker 1: this conflict of her saying she can't then she breaks
Speaker 1: up with them, and she says, I can't date you.
Speaker 1: There's like the career aspect of it and her record.
Speaker 1: There's like people in her ear, you know, justifiably I
Speaker 1: don't know, so like you know, saying like you can't
Speaker 1: date him, you shouldn't be dating him. So she breaks
Speaker 1: up with him. We'll get into more of that the
Speaker 1: context of this relationship, but we do get Ambers. You
Speaker 1: make me feel like a natural woman.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, just put it on loop.
Speaker 1: Put it on loop, put me in front of a carasel,
Speaker 1: put it on loop. Listen to it all day. Why
Speaker 1: is it so good?
Speaker 2: If you're an Amber slash Mercedes fan? This is a
Speaker 2: dream episode at musically because yes, yes, I also love
Speaker 2: Emily Sonde and she can write a melody love and
Speaker 2: Anderson's so good on it an internatural woman like, are
Speaker 2: you kidding me? I'm surprised it's taken this long, right,
Speaker 2: I was like, she doesn't yeah, I said, I'm like
Speaker 2: what wait, it's so good, it's so why do they
Speaker 2: do a Carol King episode? You know what? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, because you'd think Ryan
Speaker 1: too would definitely want a Carolk That would have been unbelievable,
Speaker 1: the different versions you can do it for music well,
Speaker 1: and then Mussa the Noois did Carol King on Broadway.
Speaker 1: Crazy beautiful, Okay, I hate this whole thing of like
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm glad that they acknowledge it. When one
Speaker 1: of her friends, like the backup singer Tesla, says like,
Speaker 1: if you date a white dude, you're gonna alienate all
Speaker 1: the black women and you're gonna you're going to piss
Speaker 1: off all the black men, and like it's it's so
Speaker 1: real in like the industry that we work in, Like
Speaker 1: how strategic they want you to be m mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And then you add race into it and you're like,
Speaker 1: this is crazy, like why are we even effing talking
Speaker 1: about this? But it's a real, it is it is
Speaker 1: frusculation so I appreciate them acknowledging it.
Speaker 2: I would like to ask Amber about this storyline next
Speaker 2: time she comes on right how she felt about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I think though with what they had
Speaker 1: to work with, Amber and Cord were beautiful. They did
Speaker 1: a beautiful job. I all day long should have endgame
Speaker 1: for them, like love them.
Speaker 2: Really do. And I think it's such a fine line
Speaker 2: for coord as an actor doing uncomfort things like this
Speaker 2: to make you not want to hate the character and
Speaker 2: not be so overt and obvious with what you're doing
Speaker 2: where he's still very much Sam doing this, We're like,
Speaker 2: we know this character, we know his intention. That does
Speaker 2: not make it right what he's saying totally, but like
Speaker 2: he's and he's also sort of like slowly twisting that
Speaker 2: knife of uncomfortableness the whole time, like I want to
Speaker 2: crawl out of my skin, which is hard to do,
Speaker 2: and he was so good. And then Amber on the
Speaker 2: flip side of it, seeing that handling it was also
Speaker 2: like walk that tightrope beautifully did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's embarrassed with her friends like that the
Speaker 1: cringiest seen like, but yet she knows Sam is good
Speaker 1: at his core.
Speaker 2: We've all dated people we've had to apologize for a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: Right, totally, totally. The whole storyline itself wasn't cringey. I
Speaker 1: appreciate them acknowledging that, and like they're an interracial couple,
Speaker 1: like we let's talk about it. We always doesn't try
Speaker 1: away from storylines. But did we have to put in
Speaker 1: those that scene with those I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can come and call them jokes or what they were
Speaker 1: intended to be, But like I just was like, no, no, I.
Speaker 2: Mean to be fair, Like we sort of live in
Speaker 2: our bubble, right, we're very much protected. And when I
Speaker 2: go back to Texas to visit family and I'm around
Speaker 2: some of my siblings friends or friends of friends, they
Speaker 2: say some questions wild shit, and I'm always very audibly
Speaker 2: like what yeah, yeah, yeah, I like, you can't My
Speaker 2: friend here has as his little brother who's in town
Speaker 2: from the rural town he's from, yeah, and has said
Speaker 2: some wild things. God, oh, you can't be you can't
Speaker 2: be saying that, and so okay, it's like it is
Speaker 2: hard to watch, it's really uncomfortable. But these guys are
Speaker 2: from a small town and trying to fit into a
Speaker 2: new city quickly. Yeah, and the pure panic in his
Speaker 2: eyes he does, he becomes like sort of the worst
Speaker 2: version of himself. Yeah, and it's a learning moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, definitely, it's like.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. And I think when as Glee
Speaker 2: ever shied away from doing that, even as uncomfortable as
Speaker 2: it may it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah crazy. Also Sam just had to mark this
Speaker 1: when they're making up, when they've kind of they're having
Speaker 1: there come to Jesus moment and and Sam's like, this
Speaker 1: isn't new, Mercedes. When we were in Glee club, there
Speaker 1: are all different types of people. There was gay, straight, black, white, Tina.
Speaker 1: It didn't I.
Speaker 2: I lost it.
Speaker 1: I just loved it.
Speaker 2: And maybe Gigle even when Tina's not there, they're still
Speaker 2: kicking her, kicking girl down. It was so good, Like
Speaker 2: it was good. See you were still there in spirit.
Speaker 1: Always and and and Mercedes kind of admitting that, like
Speaker 1: she can't believe she even said that, right, like she
Speaker 1: said that, and I and she was definitely moved. I
Speaker 1: think also they were all everybody was moved by the
Speaker 1: Kurt plot that we're going to talk about as well,
Speaker 1: and like had these like real deep realizations, you know,
Speaker 1: me not dating someone because they're white. It is like
Speaker 1: me telling someone I can't be their friend because they're gay. Sam,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not gay. But like it was a These
Speaker 1: are like real, real conversations, and I really I thought
Speaker 1: there were so well handled, given the cringe scene and
Speaker 1: like the tie up for it all and the two
Speaker 1: of them really I don't know coming together and having
Speaker 1: these conversations, because how can you not you know, how
Speaker 1: can you ignore something like that? And then and Mercedes
Speaker 1: sings Colorblind to him, and boy, oh boy, is that
Speaker 1: not one of my favorites?
Speaker 2: So I asked Amber how Colored Wine happened, and she said,
Speaker 2: Emily Sanda wrote it, she thinks with Claude Kelly, who's
Speaker 2: another incredible songwriter. Claude was working with Amber on her
Speaker 2: album and so Amber recorded it and Emily liked it
Speaker 2: and said she could have it, and then she pitched
Speaker 2: it to the show.
Speaker 1: Wow that's what happened.
Speaker 2: Whow Now that's a team Emily Sonde, Claude Kelly and
Speaker 2: Amber Eiley.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that song like me appreciating that song
Speaker 1: like I do now.
Speaker 2: I think she went on like the Ellen Show she
Speaker 2: did like she was reforming that place is yeah, oh god.
Speaker 1: It was so good though, like and then watching it
Speaker 1: with the episode, I think that was also the most
Speaker 1: powerful too, because like, this episode as a whole, which
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about, was like a very very different
Speaker 1: tone than obviously New New York. But I still loved it.
Speaker 1: I was totally into it, and I think it's great.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like honeymoon phase is over. We got
Speaker 2: one episode of honeymoon phase, and now it's very much
Speaker 2: here are the real things happening in these people's lives
Speaker 2: and how we're harsh city beautiful.
Speaker 1: At first, I was like, oh no, like when they
Speaker 1: when the episode opened, I was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: about this. And then when Kirk gets beat up and
Speaker 1: that whole like second act, I was like, I let's
Speaker 1: talk about this into it, okay, haven't.
Speaker 2: So the episode opens on like this beautiful acapella known
Speaker 2: as alone by Blurt, gorgeous blurt, blurt by Blurt by Blank,
Speaker 2: Kurt and Rachel walking on the street in New York
Speaker 2: to a memorial site for this guy who got I
Speaker 2: Hate Grimed. Basically that's what it's alluded to, who was
Speaker 2: also Chris's stand in in real life.
Speaker 1: I thought that was so funny the picture.
Speaker 2: You seeing out his picture of her, I'm like, that
Speaker 2: is Chris's stand in. At first, I was like, where
Speaker 2: are we going with this? Yes?
Speaker 1: Are we just going to like is it just going
Speaker 1: to happen? And we're going to like pass over it?
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, Like I just didn't know.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad that it went where it went totally.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Kurt, it's very It weighed very heavy. Young
Speaker 1: Kurt and everybody took it very seriously.
Speaker 2: And Rachel is coming in on a very different wavelength
Speaker 2: than Kurt is, because Rachel's coming off this like riding
Speaker 2: high of like I quit, I made this crazy big decision,
Speaker 2: but like here I am. And she's just like a rocket,
Speaker 2: just like shooting off. And she meets up with Kurt
Speaker 2: and Kurt gives her a bunch of flag for it. Basically,
Speaker 2: he confronts her about quitting YadA and they get into
Speaker 2: this fight and Rachel's like, you're afraid to take risks
Speaker 2: and grow up? I'm growing up and she storms out.
Speaker 2: That's it very Rachel, Barry and Kurt's left alone and
Speaker 2: on his way out, you know, he's still shaken from
Speaker 2: their friends and neighbor getting beat up that he sees
Speaker 2: someone getting beat up in the alley and he runs
Speaker 2: into it to confront them, helps the guy get away,
Speaker 2: and then he ends up getting beaten up. Very brave
Speaker 2: of Kurt, yes, which again you know, here are people
Speaker 2: adapting to the big city again where he would have
Speaker 2: done this in Ohio all day. I mean, think about
Speaker 2: the experiences he's been through. This is not something he's
Speaker 2: necessarily afraid of, right, right, And so he runs towards
Speaker 2: the fire.
Speaker 1: Basically, which Bert's like, why didn't you just call the cops.
Speaker 2: You don't have time to call the cops.
Speaker 1: You don't have time to call the cops, and the
Speaker 1: cops probably wouldn't come anyway.
Speaker 2: But but we had a Burton Curt scene, So a
Speaker 2: beautiful Burton curtsyne I know.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this create ends up in the hospital, everybody,
Speaker 1: all these different shots of people, all all of you
Speaker 1: guys finding out about Kurt is also really well done.
Speaker 1: Like if this were if I didn't know better, this
Speaker 1: would have been like an Alfonso episode to me, totally
Speaker 1: also Beaker so good they that was really powerful, and
Speaker 1: then seeing Kurt in the hospital, it was really emotional.
Speaker 1: And I hadn't expected that. I didn't expect that. It
Speaker 1: also feels like what's going on in the world, which
Speaker 1: I won't get too far into but is important is
Speaker 1: it felt very timely and I cannot believe we're still here.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're here in a hard way, like we've
Speaker 2: really come crashing back.
Speaker 1: M hmmm, actually farther backwards. So it's just terrifying. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the emotion was like with what's happening. It
Speaker 1: feels too relevant too, and also just devastating.
Speaker 2: It reminded me how quickly these things can spin out
Speaker 2: of control. Yeah, because it's like one thing leads to
Speaker 2: another and you start to see patterns good or bad.
Speaker 2: They usually gain momentum in whatever direction they're heading. And
Speaker 2: it's like it reminded me of when these things were
Speaker 2: more common and when you see them than other people
Speaker 2: get the idea to do it and they feel more
Speaker 2: comfortable doing it. And what scares me now is that
Speaker 2: happening again and it seems like everything is just turned
Speaker 2: up and like what that could mean for vulnerable communities.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it made me think of that as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, especially when he's like, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is New York. I just didn't think this would happen here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's about New York. It is,
Speaker 2: and you can I mean, you've lived there, you're from there,
Speaker 2: you can tell me if I'm wrong. There's also this,
Speaker 2: I know, I don't want to get too into the
Speaker 2: weeds here about it, but New York is the biggest
Speaker 2: city in the country, so you have more of everything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, there's more good and there's more bad because
Speaker 2: there's just more of it. Yeah, don't really the good
Speaker 2: outweighs the bad generally. Yeah, but because they's just a
Speaker 2: bigger volume of people, these things are going to happen
Speaker 2: because everybody is forced to come together. That's the beauty
Speaker 2: of it. Where you, like Bert says, you wouldn't think
Speaker 2: this would happen because everybody is around a lot of
Speaker 2: different types of people. And again, generally that is the sense.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you get a few cases like this and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden people think the whole place
Speaker 2: is unsafe.
Speaker 1: That's not right.
Speaker 2: That's what happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the way Kurt handles is also like pretty
Speaker 1: it's interesting. He's like, I'm not even that upset about it.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, I just think he's Kurt has
Speaker 1: seen a lot like Chris like, and it's really brave
Speaker 1: the way he responds this. And I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just thought the whole thing was handled really well. And
Speaker 1: that scene with Burt and Kurt like fathered a son
Speaker 1: was so impactful.
Speaker 2: To see the evolution of where they've come from, because
Speaker 2: I always think about like the single lady days, which
Speaker 2: coming down the stairs and seeing and where they are
Speaker 2: now they're talking like it's father and son, but it's
Speaker 2: also like, yeah, like they are adults now, it's an adult
Speaker 2: to adult and they are the sum of their experiences
Speaker 2: up to that point. So like, as a fan of
Speaker 2: their characters, it does feel different. Yeah, definitely and earned
Speaker 2: in that way, which is really nice. Definitely, And then
Speaker 2: Kurt sing's his Niyata song and we get a beautiful
Speaker 2: I'm still here. This is the one that I was
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because like everybody's there for his winter
Speaker 1: like critique. Yes, everybody's supporting him. Of course, said to me,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what's the deal.
Speaker 2: I think this was where there was something lost in translation.
Speaker 2: I think they were writing me out of this episode.
Speaker 2: I see for the movie I was supposed to do,
Speaker 2: but they were a week off. Got it?
Speaker 1: That would make sense, Kevin, because I was like, where's Artie?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Me too, but I think that's so I like
Speaker 2: sort of had more time off, but I wasn't gone yet,
Speaker 2: got it?
Speaker 1: You were just prepping to be one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, miscommunication behind the scenes here. Well, Christmas performance is awesome.
Speaker 2: I loved watching it. I was laughing because I was like,
Speaker 2: he brought in lights. I guess Kurt would bring in
Speaker 2: lights and effects and cabaret tables of course, yes, the
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 1: And of course like Carmen's you know, smiling because she
Speaker 1: has to be at this point like he's just been
Speaker 1: through hell and that's that's it. That's that's the thing.
Speaker 2: And it's a really heavy episode. But it doesn't feel
Speaker 2: too much. No, it doesn't feel like too much. It's
Speaker 2: really well balanced.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: And yeah, New York's got to groove to it, doesn't it?
Speaker 1: It does, and I am I'm into it. Let's grade
Speaker 1: some performances, Okay, no one is alone be plus yeah,
Speaker 1: B plus you make me feel like an after a
Speaker 1: woman A plus A plus Broadway baby, not while I'm
Speaker 1: around a colorblind A plus. I'm still here A plus
Speaker 1: A plus. Wow, I got a lot of B pluses
Speaker 1: in that love this I do. I'm loving this.
Speaker 2: I think it's because you haven't seen it, so it's
Speaker 2: just something I think.
Speaker 1: I think part of it is, like it's really exciting.
Speaker 1: I think part of it was like my expectations were
Speaker 1: kind of low, but like that's not to say that
Speaker 1: this is this is like, this is far exceeding my expectations.
Speaker 1: I am like into it. I am here for this.
Speaker 1: I love this spinoff, give me all of it. I
Speaker 1: also think it's like the pressures off of Tina and
Speaker 1: my feelings towards the show as a person in it,
Speaker 1: Like I am like enjoying this as a viewer, Like
Speaker 1: I somehow the ad I'm able to watch Glee as
Speaker 1: a fan, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like this is fun. I'm excited for that experience in
Speaker 2: six Yes, totally you should be.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see some tardy takes the cringe moments.
Speaker 2: Cringe is obviously the sam it was on purpose, but
Speaker 2: still yeah, hard to walk the stands move? Oh, I
Speaker 2: mean there were dancers on the carousel. That's the one stunning.
Speaker 2: The one stunning, beautiful. Best song.
Speaker 1: Colorblind, Natural Woman, Whoa both Amber songs. Okay, I gotta
Speaker 1: listen to Colorline again. Hold on, I'm just gonna put
Speaker 1: this on my spot.
Speaker 2: Put on the playlist. Everybody added to your playlist, get Amber,
Speaker 2: some of those streams. Best performance by Prop, the Cereal Ball,
Speaker 2: I like the kazoo.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good one too, best line.
Speaker 2: I think you mentioned it, Oh, the Tina one. And
Speaker 2: then absolutely Sam being like we're in glee club. There
Speaker 2: are all different types of people, like the full line Tina,
Speaker 2: it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: And then also when Mercedes is like, you know, that'd
Speaker 1: be like saying I couldn't be a friend to THEE
Speaker 1: because they're and he's like, I'm not gay. Yes, Chord
Speaker 1: just coming in with the lines performance m VP.
Speaker 2: This is getting hard. It's really good. It's all things,
Speaker 2: and they're all doing it really well. Like I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I will say that the scenes m VY.
Speaker 1: There's two m VP scenes for me, which is the
Speaker 1: Burton Kurt scene and the Cord and Mercedes scene. And
Speaker 1: I think that I think Chord gets it because that
Speaker 1: is a really hard thing to do. Like you said,
Speaker 1: without being like his character is starting to feel become
Speaker 1: a villain, right like like you you want to hate
Speaker 1: them because of it, and you still don't. And somehow
Speaker 1: he managed to make this, he still managed to not
Speaker 1: make that who he was, but like something that he
Speaker 1: can learn from and a choice of that he made,
Speaker 1: you know, And I I really I thought he did
Speaker 1: it so well.
Speaker 2: I would like to point out another scene. And I think,
Speaker 2: because they're both so good, we might take it for granted.
Speaker 2: Lee and Chris, Leah and Chris and Leah and Whoopie.
Speaker 2: She's going up against Whoopie. Yeah, that's fair. I'd forget
Speaker 2: that's their and you don't question it, right, you don't.
Speaker 2: It's it's a good point. It's really good. I don't
Speaker 2: know so I think I think Cord overall.
Speaker 1: But but these honorable scene mentioned, yes, yes, for sure?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, Jenna, Okay. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've been on TikTok lately. I'm sure you haven't. You
Speaker 2: are very busy.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not on Tico.
Speaker 2: Say a little prayer. Glee version with the choreography is
Speaker 2: trending again and bigger than ever, and there are so
Speaker 2: many different types of people doing it. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of straight people doing it, and the gleeks are calling
Speaker 2: them out for doing the choreography wrong. However, I don't care.
Speaker 2: It is incredible.
Speaker 1: Is there's a bunch of guys doing it, so many
Speaker 1: what yeah, and some of them are so good.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like you just got a basement gating that
Speaker 2: has one on here. Yes, like and they are committed.
Speaker 2: Those hips are shimmying.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: It's really good. Okay, So dad talk talk like these
Speaker 2: daughters doing it with their dad. This is also great.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting how everybody really understands the vibe of this,
Speaker 2: Like everyone is doing it correctly, like everyone's being cute,
Speaker 2: and it is a wide array of people.
Speaker 1: We have a Love Island person doing it.
Speaker 2: It's taken over the world. There are so many I
Speaker 2: love it. Keep it coming, you guys, please keep sharing them.
Speaker 2: There incredible Okay, Kevin. So next week is your week.
Speaker 2: It's season five, episode sixteen tested. It is the mistake
Speaker 2: week where you were supposed to be off for your movie.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure you have lots of stories about this.
Speaker 1: And then you are also in an STD costume, which
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch this episode. I've heard so
Speaker 1: much about it for so many years that I actually
Speaker 1: get to see it now.
Speaker 2: I have so many stories. It was a wild time.
Speaker 2: Not everybody was on their best behavior. Whoa professional?
Speaker 1: Bring it?
Speaker 2: It was a really hard episode. Shoot.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't wait. I can't wait. I'm interviewing you
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 2: Okay, I love it. I'm ready.
Speaker 1: All right, Well that is bad. Thank you for joining
Speaker 1: us for another episode of the New York spinoff. I'm
Speaker 1: into it. I'm a huge glee Van, I'm a gleek.
Speaker 2: Wow, finally you heard it here first.
Speaker 1: You're welcome.
Speaker 2: We did it, We did it, love it. It only took
Speaker 2: you being off the show for you to love it again. Obvious,
Speaker 2: I'm kidding. Look for those people who think we don't
Speaker 2: love this show, you're out of your mind. Do you
Speaker 2: think we'd be doing this and we didn't love the
Speaker 2: show and respect the characters and everything.
Speaker 1: We love it.
Speaker 2: We love it. Okay, that's what you really miss see Yeah,
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