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We're talking free agency and guys still available. 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: As we sit here midway through May, as a team 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: start to get ready to fire up Phase three of 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: their ot A programs that have their mini camps and 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: uh you get about three about four more weeks here 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: before teams once they get done with mini camp things 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: pretty much shut down for a while. Yeah, it really 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: is the true dead period. You may get a signing 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: here and there, Unfortunately, you'll probably get a suspension or 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: legal situation here and there. Maybe watching watching, I was 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: thinking of the guys that you have yet to commit 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: the crime but are about to and their free time. 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: You know, some some bad news is gonna pop up 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: of you know, someone gets in trouble or whatever. But yeah, 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's when everyone goes on vacation. I mean, 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: that's that's truly the downtip. Yeah, that's that's why. You know, 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: when people were wondering a couple of years ago, a 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: few years back, when when the Steelers were waiting on 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: news from what was gonna happen with Martavis bryant Um. Yeah, 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: the league, the league goes on vacation in in July, right, 36 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: they do too, right, right? Yeah, there's like a month 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: there where there's just nothing going on. You won't hear 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: a word out of of NFL news. Does they just 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: take the month of July off they go on vacation 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: because the other eleven months out of the year, this 41 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: thing is going full bore, go four bore, and some 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: of the coaches will do side projects, and some of 43 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: the scouts are watching last year's tape of guys for 44 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: next year and things like that. I mean, but there's 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: no news for us, right of course, the players are 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: working out and learning playbooks and things too. So looking 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: here at the edge Rushers, that's the first thing listed here. Um, 48 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Justin Houston is available now. I'm interested if you listen 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: to if you believe Justin Houston, the Steelers wanted to 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: sign him last year and he said no and signed 51 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: with the with the Ravens instead. I don't know if 52 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: I believe Houston and Ingram. I don't know if I 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: believe that either, but I think Houston and Ingram were 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: basically the same guy last year, you know where I 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: would have offered him the same contract, or maybe they 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: offered them both the contract and ever says yes first 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: gets it. You know, one of those type of situations, 58 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: and the Ingram thing doesn't work didn't work out, But 59 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean Houston wouldn't. Yeah right. Um, Jerry hughes 60 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: As signed, he signed, he signed, He just signed. Um. 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney still on this list. Tech McKinley, so on 62 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: this Atlantic Key's hurt. Uh, Trey Flowers is still out there. Yeah, 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: he's a good player that I don't know where he 64 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: fits here, But maybe you just don't care about scheme 65 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: fit if you're buying bargains at this point, because he 66 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: he to me, was more of a Michael Bennett strong 67 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: side four three defensive end they could kick inside. Was versatile. 68 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not a speedball off the edge two 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: and fifty pound dude, thicker guy than that, but he's 70 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: good and I can find a spot for him. You know, 71 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: he would certainly secure the edge it outside linebacker in 72 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: the three four And you know, I don't think I'm 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: dropping him into coverage or anything, but you know, player 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: looking at some of the other guys that might fit here. 75 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Carrigan's available. I'd like him a year ago too. Yeah, 76 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: he's he's thirty four now. Obviously he's not gonna play 77 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: any special teams for you. But if you've got fifteen 78 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: snaps a game out of Ryan Carrigan, that would not 79 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: be bad. That would not be bad. Um, Jason Peter Paul, 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: I say, Pierre Paul and Carlos done Lap to me 81 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: are almost more like Flowers, where Yeah, there types and 82 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: you're like a gay special teams of them either. But 83 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: they're not bad, No, absolutely not. So there are a 84 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: few guys I'm just looking up and down the list 85 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: the guys that would fit in this scheme. Um, it's 86 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: the name I was going to bring up. I never 87 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: liked Tack McKinley much as a first round pick or 88 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: done he spent. But if I picked for a reason, 89 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: and if I'm getting him super cheap, I would think 90 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: about that. I would want him cheaper than what the 91 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: Browns got him for last year, which four million dollars 92 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: they overpaid for him, and and then that's why he's uemployed. 93 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Um Mario Addison I think would be a cheaper version 94 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: of the Houston Ingram type that's had a pretty good career. 95 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: But is only you know, a limited player now yeah, 96 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean you're you're looking for again a guy can 97 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: give you ten fastballs a game, Yeah, right, right right now? 98 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you know show the youngster thing or two as well, 99 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: you know on the defensive line, and this this one 100 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: comes into play. If something were you know stefan to 101 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: it is not ready to go or it isn't going 102 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: to play, then it's time to act. You know right now, 103 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: you now you've got an issue here. Here's the thing 104 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: that I would do if that were the case, I 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: would slide Tyson and Lulu back outside and make him 106 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: a differensive end and I would sign one of these. 107 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: There's there are several nose tackle types who are available 108 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: here that you could come in. Hey, you're looking for 109 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: a guy to play twenty snap is the game truly? 110 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: You know, like, yeah, there's almost no scenario where they 111 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: play more, right, And that's so there are guys here, Um, 112 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: Brandon Williams still available. Yeah, uh, Star loot to lele A, 113 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Keem Hicks, a Chem Hicks like those are guys are good. 114 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: Eddie Goldman, Lynn Vaal Joseph is still available. Like. There 115 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 1: are guys there that have played a lot of snap 116 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson and not so much. Um. Even there's some 117 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: run stuffing nose tackle types like that. You just named 118 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: a few there. Even if Danny Shelton or Steven Bryan, 119 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Steve McClendon back wouldn't be the worst thing, right, These 120 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: guys have played a lot of snaps recently. Larry Ogan 121 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: jobs out there. I know he couldn't pass a fit 122 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: he didn't test the Bears. But some of these guys 123 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: have some injury stuff, of course. I mean that's the 124 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: case with all these free agents. But maybe he couldn't 125 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: pass a physical a month or two ago, but he 126 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: can't maybe now. Yeah, but that's that's the that's the 127 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: tack I would take with at if you know. But 128 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: there has to be an if involved for you, right, Yeah, 129 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: it's all of a sudden, that room is pretty crowded. 130 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: It's my chance, go ahead. Yeah, I mean, you've got 131 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: guys who can play defensive end for you. Who who 132 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: you drafted the last two years. You've added two young 133 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: guys there. I don't mind getting them getting more snaps 134 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: because they're the future, right, But I don't want to 135 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: do that again. I wouldn't mind having Tyson and Lulu 136 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: available to be that swing guy. Four guy, Yeah, play 137 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: inside now. And he's coming back off of he's thirty 138 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: five years old and coming off of a major injury. 139 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: Um and signing one of these big defensive tackles the 140 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: place to play nose tackle. Yeah, I mean, Eddie Goldman 141 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: can give you fifteen snaps a game, really hard to move, 142 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's twenty eight years old. 143 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Hakeem Hicks to me as the highest ceiling 144 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: of these guys. I mean, his best snaps are I mean, 145 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: he's like fighting a grizzy Yeah. I mean you could 146 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: you could sign either with that. You know, Hicks is 147 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: thirty two, Goldman is I wouldn't have a problem with 148 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: signing Goldman. Do it like a two year, five or 149 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: six million dollar deal? A great? Yeah, maybe he's more 150 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: than the conversation we've had this segment and last of 151 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: just somebody to rent for seventeen games or whatever. I mean, 152 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: maybe he is a two year deal. And these guys actually, 153 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: I mean you look at look at a Lulu, these 154 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: guys last Yeah, you know, I cam't, heywhere's different than this? 155 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: But there's their game is not predicated on speed. Their 156 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: their game is predicated on power, power and technique, you know, 157 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: technically understand how to absorb, you know what I mean. 158 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,359 Speaker 1: So these guys, I mean, you could have a pretty 159 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: dominant front by adding one of these guys. Part of 160 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: me wonders if it's worth it. No matter what, I don't, 161 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm with you, I am right there with you. Um, 162 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: that would make a lot of sense. But there's a 163 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: lot of good players here to pick from. Yeah, you 164 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: want to fix the run defense? There you go. Yeah, 165 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: I mean you could absorb two injuries on game day 166 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: and still be okay. And I know that they only 167 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: usually keep six defensive linemen, and right now it looks 168 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: like seven or rosterable if not better. But I'll still 169 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: take any goldman, you know what I mean, Like, give 170 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: me another good one. If they are they better than 171 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: Martevius Adams, Montrevia's Adams, I should say yes, Yes, they're 172 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: better on game day than him. Yes, And that doesn't 173 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: mean you couldn't keep all or you know, you get 174 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: practice one spots available. That's where you signed Montrevias for 175 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: the old guy, right right, right right? I mean I 176 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: think some of these names are just appealing. No, I 177 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: completely agree, Um true off ball linebackers. I don't I 178 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: don't know that this is a need right now either. 179 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: That room is a little crowded, rooms pretty crowded. Yeah, 180 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: I mean you're you're probably going to be cut ing. Well, 181 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: let's put this way. You've got two guys Ulysses Gilbert 182 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: led them in special team snaps, Life and Adventure, and 183 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: it's waiting. Hi, this is Merril Hodge. 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You know, here's a fourth round pick last year. 199 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: Marcus Allen to me, I can be done with Yeah, 200 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: but he played a lot of I think Alan, I 201 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: really think Allan and Gilbert comes down to one spot 202 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: for those two guys because they both played a lot 203 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: of They both played a lot of special team snaps 204 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: last year. Um, you know who your two starters are. 205 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Robert Splaine is probably not going anywhere. My next question, 206 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: is Blaine making the team? I was gonna say eighty 207 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: five percent chance, yes, but yeah, I mean he's your 208 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: most experienced backup right, and he's not good enough for 209 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: me to say, oh, I can't cut Splaine because there's 210 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: this awesome mind. But you know, like if a Keem 211 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: Hicks was out there in the linebacker version, oh sorry, Robert, 212 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: you could go. But you know, I'm not going out 213 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: of my way to replace them. And again, I'm happy 214 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: with him on the team. And he's a special team 215 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: are too. You know. Um, much the same as it 216 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: was for the other positions. A lot of the guys 217 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: here are a bit long in tooth um. You know, 218 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: who would have any team any names? Um? Yeah, there's 219 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: this one that I like is Alexander Johnson. I was 220 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: just gonna say him. Yeah, it's funny. I know he 221 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: had some off the field stuff coming out of college, 222 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: so maybe he's not for everyone. He's thirty, he's a 223 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: bigger body guy, he's like two, but he can run 224 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: and he can cover. I mean he's a good player. Yeah, 225 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: most of these other guys are basically special teams guys. 226 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: Is Anthony barstill out there? I think so? His name 227 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: him and Dante high Tower, Jamie Collins is still there, 228 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: Kyle van noy, Um Kwan, Alexander Bernardrick McKinney. I mean, 229 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: there's some guys that have again once again have played 230 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps in the you know, Joe Schobert 231 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: is still available. Yeah right, yeah, I mean I know 232 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: there's some injury stuff here, but there are some. John Bostick, 233 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: now by another former stealer, played a lot of snaps. 234 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: I mean people always wanted to replace them. kJ Wright. 235 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: There are some names on here though, Anthony Anthony Hitchins 236 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: made a big contract three years ago, which was a mistake, 237 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: mistake and the second they did it. But still, I 238 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: mean we just named ten guys though that will probably 239 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: be NFL players. Yeah, this is the you know, one 240 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: of the things with the with the depth of this draft, 241 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: the draft this year, we talked about it a lot. 242 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: Where this draft wasn't it didn't have the star power, 243 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: but it but it was reasonably deep. Um, this is 244 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: where it hurts these guys. Yeah, teams were able to 245 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: especially you know, places like linebacker as just saying linebacker, like, 246 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: this is a position the Layers Union isn't thrilled with. 247 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: In terms of the middle class. This you know, the 248 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: Vince Williams of the world where I ken this draft 249 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: on the fifth round and even though you know you're 250 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: a good player, I'm just gonna go with the fifth 251 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: round pick, like, this is a position that really hurts 252 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: that middle the lower class of veterans. Yeah. Yeah, And 253 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams out there that we're still 254 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: getting their salary cap structure back in shape after after 255 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, the decrease last year where they things out. 256 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: Looking at the cornerback position, but if Jack or Bush 257 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: were to get hurt or something, yeah, I would rather umber, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, 258 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: looking at the cornerback position, Bishop Brelan is out there, uh, 259 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: Fabian Moreau. These again, these are guys that have played 260 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: a lot of snap a. J. Bowyer, Trey Waynes, Jimmy 261 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Smith's probably done at this point, probably old Yeah, Nickel, Ruby, 262 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: coleman Um, Kevin King is still out there, Vernon Hargrey's 263 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: these guys that were highly drafted. A lot of these 264 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: guys have made some money, signed big second contracts, and 265 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, Jerry Um, Chris Harris is available at thirty three. 266 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: Uh has been true font Mackenzie, Alexander and some of 267 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: these guys. This is the thing with the with the 268 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: cornerback position. And I wrote a story about this a 269 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago in the d K Pittsburgh Sports 270 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: about how the cornerback position is a rental position in 271 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: today's NFL unless you have a true star. Right if 272 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: you look at the basically the top six cornerbacks in 273 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: last year's Super Bowl, only one of them was drafted 274 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: by the Rams or the Bengals. Wow, you know, like 275 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Ramsey's obviously a keeper, and you know they gave a 276 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: lot they didn't draft him, but they didn't draft him. 277 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: You're right, steals have gone through a lot, you know 278 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: that there They don't have a Rock woodson that they've 279 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: been married to, you know. Yeah, I mean that's just 280 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: the nature of this position. You signed these guys to 281 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: a one or two year deal and you've you're playing 282 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: for you, you know, a year or two and then 283 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: you see where you're at, and you know, sometimes they 284 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: move on. Jason Varette still on this list. M a 285 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: lot of injuries, but maybe you get eight games out 286 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: of them, you know, right, Pierre de Zer, Joe Hayden 287 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: is obviously still out there. So there's guys available at 288 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: that position as well. Um, you know, even beyond I 289 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: know a lot of people said, well they need to 290 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: resign Joe Hayden. Well there's other guys out there, And 291 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: I think the beauty of Hayden is the off the 292 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: field leadership and the familiarity of course, absolutely, you know, 293 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they would be looking for the same 294 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: thing in Josh Norman or Richard Sherman or somebody like that. 295 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: If you're gonna go get an older dude, I think 296 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: it would be Hayden. Again, you're one injury away from 297 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: calling ten of these guys. Yeah, And it depends on 298 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: what you're looking for as well. For example, got like 299 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: Nicol Corby, Coleman or Chris Harris. Those guys are going 300 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: playing the slot for you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, to steal 301 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: a lot situations and say firm. But there's enough options 302 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: that they're probably fine there. But if those things don't 303 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: work out, I mean, I'm sure Jack Rabbit Jenkins will 304 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: probably be in the league this year, you know, I mean, 305 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: he's up in age, but there's some guys have played 306 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps here too. Yeah, no, no doubt 307 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: the safety position. Uh, same thing here, Sean Williams, Uh, 308 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: Tayshawn Gibson, h Ricardo Allen's played some snaps, uh, Anderson 309 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: Sendejo not good snaps, but he's played a lot of snaps. Yeah, 310 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: Jason Jason mccordy signed, right, but he's thirty five, sure 311 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: about that, he's thirty five. Yeah, Chakowsky Tart Jakosky Tart 312 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: is a good player. Yeah. Yeah. But b Landon Collins 313 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: has been around the block and he's a certain type 314 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: of safety. He's as much linebackers safety. But he recently 315 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: signed a massive deal and it was cut because of it. Yeah, 316 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: this group isn't great to me. He was always overrated 317 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: in my eyes. I thought to me too, like one 318 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: good year the Giants, but still only does one thing. Well, 319 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, there's there's a lot of names here. 320 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm super excited about comparing. That's just question. Tart would 321 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: be maybe the only one. Yeah, yeah, I agree, I 322 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: agree that's a but after signing CAZy, I mean they 323 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: got three that they're gonna play. Um, if you're looking 324 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: at this Steelers potentially bringing in a punter to compete 325 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: that job. That would be the only other spot I 326 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: could see. Dustin Coles's out there, he's he's done. Jamie 327 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: Gillian is out there. Hmm. I wonder if he's only 328 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: twenty five and he's you know, he could be a 329 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: long term already on his already on his second team, 330 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: are coming off of his second team. Drew chrispin Is 331 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: punted some. Kevin Huber. Both those guys were the Bengals 332 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: last year. Um, the Ravens drafted one as the first 333 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: punter off the board. Yeah, I wonder if book will 334 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: become available. I would think that he will. If you 335 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: use the fourth round pick on a punter, he's gonna 336 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: make a team. But Cooks like thirty nine. Now, I 337 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: know he's older and he was expensive, and that's why 338 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: they did it. I don't know who the Bills punter 339 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: was last year, but they drafted the punk god or 340 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: what you know. Yeah, but apparently it was a problem. 341 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: Those guys are better than what the Steelers have. But 342 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: if you never punt, that's the whole idea, you know, 343 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: that's all idea, right. Dustin cool quits forty by the way, Yeah, 344 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: that shout that didn't work right, that ship probably is sailed. Yeah, 345 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: but it's interesting, you know, to look at that. There's 346 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: some definitely some guys out there that could fill a need. Um. 347 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: I feel like we should do it in a month 348 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: from now too, like every because there'll be a couple 349 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: of new names. They'll be a handful these guys signed. 350 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: I have a better idea of what's going on too. Right, 351 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know if people realize this, but the 352 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: Steelers and all thirty two teams may maintain a free 353 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: agent board well after free agency is gone. I mean 354 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: they still have a list, and then during the season 355 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: you call it your emergency list. That trust me, if 356 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: there's two D line injuries, the front office is calling 357 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: guys in the north quarter of that game. I mean, 358 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: before the game is even and over, you're hitting your 359 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: emergency list and bringing them into it for either a 360 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: tryout or physicals or whatever it might be right working 361 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: out a contract. So like, a lot happens during the 362 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: season too. You know, even after camp, do you have 363 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: an emergency list? Yeah, you're constantly updating them every time 364 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: somebody's you know, there's a wave of releases or where 365 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: guys get released, you update that thing, you know, weekly 366 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: at the end of training camp is obviously a huge 367 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: thing for that. That's why you send That's why you 368 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: send scouts out to all the different games. Oh yeah, 369 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: how do you see you know? Hey, Well, these guys 370 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: they you know, they have seven offensive tackles and five 371 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: of them are good. They're only gonna keep four. Yeah. 372 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: I think I've explained this before, but I probably haven't recently. 373 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: But even the college scouts are doing that during the preseason, 374 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: the NFL preseason, you bring in every hand on deck 375 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: and you say, like they told me, Matt, go watch 376 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: Bears Panthers. Well, I wasn't watching Christian McCaffrey types. I 377 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: was watching, you know, a tackle that we thought could 378 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: be They gave me a list of like ten names 379 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: of they could get cut. Are they better than what 380 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: we have? And if you're a bad team like the 381 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: Browns were often the answers, yes, absolutely, But yeah, that 382 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: is the free agency list. An interesting list. A lot 383 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: of good players still on there, a lot of guys 384 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: who are are going to play snaps in the NFL 385 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: this season. So and the beauty about signing guys now 386 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: is they don't. They won't count against your comp formula. 387 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Not that the Steelers are going to reap any benefits 388 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: of compics this year. That's not going to happen for them. 389 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: But if you go signing you know, a former Raven 390 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: or something like that, they're also not going to benefit 391 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: from it. Like you know, so you're not helping your 392 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: your opponents or future opponents by signing guys. At this point, 393 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: it's just the de tackle group that we started with. 394 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: Has my wheels been in a little bit, you know, 395 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: the names there that would be useful, That would be 396 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: one that I would definitely keep an eye on. And 397 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: because like I like Leal as a prospect, but he 398 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: doesn't scream run stuffer of me either, right, Um, So 399 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: that that ship is not like there's still guys out 400 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: there that could fix the run defense. Yeah, and there 401 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: will be guys out there three weeks from now who 402 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: could fix the defense isn't getting signed any minute now, 403 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, right Yeah, So anyways, we're gonna take another break. 404 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally. You're listening 405 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. When we 406 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna talk to some quarterback tears. 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