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<v Speaker 1>Good morning. I'm Brian Curtiz and I'm Doug Krisner. Here

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<v Speaker 1>are the stories we're following today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Amazon's saying that revenue in the current quarter will

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<v Speaker 2>be one hundred and thirty eight to one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty three billion dollars. That beat analyst projections of just

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<v Speaker 2>over one hundred and thirty eight billion. Amazon is optimistic

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<v Speaker 2>based on strong performance from its main e commerce business,

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<v Speaker 2>and this comes as the company has been investing heavily

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<v Speaker 2>in its logistics operations. We're here from Bloomberg's Punamgoyle.

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<v Speaker 3>They continue to invest in that fast and free shipping

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<v Speaker 3>and really speeding up those timelines. So I think the

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<v Speaker 3>margin story, more than on the retail side, is just able.

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<v Speaker 3>Also turning to growth and really driving up that profitability

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<v Speaker 3>to allow for other areas of investment is key here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that AWS revenue growth was twelve percent, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was higher than the expectation of ten percent got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of attention. Amazon saying that the pace of growth

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<v Speaker 2>in its profitable cloud business did slow though over all

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<v Speaker 2>for a sixth straight quarter. However, Amazon has been ruling

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<v Speaker 2>out various products based on generative artificial intelligence, and the

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<v Speaker 2>company thinks the cloud business will ultimately benefit from this.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen some pretty strong gains in after hours. At

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, Amazon is up nine point eight percent in

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<v Speaker 2>late trading.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to Apple next. After the bel the company

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<v Speaker 1>reported sluggish iPhone sales for the third quarter. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about slippage in the vicinity of two point four percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Total revenue number here of thirty nine point seven billion.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say that these results show the

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone may be suffering from a broader slump in the

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<v Speaker 1>smartphone market. But Bloomberg's anarag Rana tells us sales in

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<v Speaker 1>China will be important going forward.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about twenty percent of overall sales for Apple, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, our analysts in Asia think that China is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be very strong this year because, as I said,

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<v Speaker 4>last year, because of COVID, they did not sell that

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<v Speaker 4>many phones there. And the rumor is that the Apple

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<v Speaker 4>lifehone fifteen, the Pro Max model with will have an

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<v Speaker 4>unbelievable camera and that really does help unit shipments in

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<v Speaker 4>China more than any other region.

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<v Speaker 1>That is Bloomberg's anaag Rana. Now we also should point

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<v Speaker 1>out that Apple reported gains and services that seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be a bright spot in an otherwise lackluster quarter, and

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<v Speaker 1>it helped Apple deliver overall revenue of eighty one point

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<v Speaker 1>eight billion, just above analyst projections. Brian, Right now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at Apple shares down nearly two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>percent in the late US session.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, tomorrow we'll be getting the US employment data

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<v Speaker 2>for the month of July. That comes at eight thirty

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning Wall Street Time. Let's get a preview

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<v Speaker 2>here from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. Will July be the month

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<v Speaker 2>the labor market finally slows? Fed officials have forecasts less hiring,

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<v Speaker 2>more unemployment, and smaller wage gains for some time, but

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<v Speaker 2>the monthly data have generally gone the other way. Economists

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<v Speaker 2>see only a slight drop in hiring for last month

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<v Speaker 2>and no change in the unemployment rate. Average hourly earnings gains,

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<v Speaker 2>though slowing, are still forecast to be rising at at

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<v Speaker 2>unsustainable pace, and inline forecast is likely to keep upward

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<v Speaker 2>pressure and interest rates. Weaker than expected numbers might bring

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<v Speaker 2>some relief, although the FED doesn't meet again until late September.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael McKee, Bloomberg Daybreak Asia.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of central banks, the Bank of England raised

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<v Speaker 1>its benchmark lending rate a quarter point today twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>basis points, so we have a new fifteen year high

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<v Speaker 1>at five and a quarter percent, and the BOE also

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<v Speaker 1>left the door open for further action if inflation persists.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's BOE Governor Andrew Bailey.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the last mile, which obviously where policy is.

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<v Speaker 4>Really doing the work. It's going to have to remain

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<v Speaker 4>restrict to have this effect of bringing inflation down, and

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<v Speaker 4>particularly next year.

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<v Speaker 1>That is Andrew Bailey, the Governor of the Bank of England.

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<v Speaker 1>He went on to say it's far too soon to

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<v Speaker 1>speculate about lower interest rates. UK policymakers have a labor

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<v Speaker 1>market and inflation report, both actually will be coming before

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<v Speaker 1>the next rate decision, and the BOE will next meet

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<v Speaker 1>on September twenty first. Brian Well to this part of

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<v Speaker 1>the world.

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<v Speaker 2>China is asking the public to inform on obstacles to

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<v Speaker 2>business in the private sector. We get the story from

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg's Joan Wong.

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<v Speaker 6>Here in Hong Kong, the government wants step offs on

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<v Speaker 6>everything from barriers to market entry, to unfair competition, local protectionism,

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<v Speaker 6>and arbitrary fines. Beijing will ask local officials to intervene

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<v Speaker 6>or send in supervision teams for more serious cases. This

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<v Speaker 6>is seen as China's latest show of concern for the

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<v Speaker 6>inbattled private sector. The appeal comes as President Chijingping tries

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<v Speaker 6>to promote a more welcoming environment for the private sector.

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<v Speaker 6>The People's Bank of China also said it would ensure

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<v Speaker 6>the sector received the extra resources and needed to grow.

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<v Speaker 4>In Hong Kong.

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<v Speaker 6>Join Wang Bloomberg Day, Brigasia Doug.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to add to some of your comments about

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<v Speaker 2>looking at yields moving up like this, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people asking the question why you mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>hot jobs. Others are talking about the Treasury issuance, the

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<v Speaker 2>Fitch warning, and also the Bank of Japan guiding yields.

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<v Speaker 2>But what isn't mentioned as much is that the consensus

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<v Speaker 2>now is moving away from recession and investors need less

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<v Speaker 2>of a hedge against their equity portfolio. We heard that

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<v Speaker 2>from Jim Karen on surveillance late last night my time.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of the bond gurus over at Morgan Stanley,

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<v Speaker 2>and the big Acman point is that inflation will stay

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<v Speaker 2>higher for longer, and you know, if you put all

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<v Speaker 2>those things together, that must be six reasons there for

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<v Speaker 2>yields popping. We're at a yearly high for the tenure yield,

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<v Speaker 2>not quite over the four and a quarter we saw

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<v Speaker 2>last year in November, but prior to that, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to go all the way back to two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>seven to get to these levels.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a very good point. Brian, Yeah, four

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen on the ten year and as long as we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking interest rates, and made this point earlier on the

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<v Speaker 1>other program that we kind of lead into or that

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<v Speaker 1>leads into us our show that China Central Bank may

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<v Speaker 1>cut the reserve requirement ratio for major banks as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as this month. This is really coming from a number

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<v Speaker 1>of analysts, but I'll cite CIDIC Securities pointing out that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a pretty much a large liquidity gap in

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<v Speaker 1>the month of August and because of that, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with this environment where there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>number of maturing loans coming through well, not only this month,

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<v Speaker 1>but the remainder of the year. Maybe it's incumbent upon

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<v Speaker 1>authorities to consider a possibility of a triple R cut

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<v Speaker 1>that can't be ruled out as a way of making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that banks have enough money to lend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we're in the point now, we're at the

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<v Speaker 2>point where investors are really kind of in a show

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<v Speaker 2>me story, So that would be one thing. They need

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things, and they need to see some

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<v Speaker 2>performance and some change. We got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>change from the taishin services data yesterday came in pretty solid,

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<v Speaker 2>and that helped restore a little bit of optimism which

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<v Speaker 2>obviously had been fading a quick point. Amazon investors pretty

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<v Speaker 2>impressed there with that. I think the cloud revenue ticking

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<v Speaker 2>up a little sort of stops that decline after quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Apple story not impressed, particularly with China. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we sort of knew that given what Qualcom delivered yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, now it's time for Global News. Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has pleaded not guilty to charges that he conspired to

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<v Speaker 2>obstruct the twenty twenty two, or rather the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>presidential election. Head backs to with Global News in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 7>Ed, yeah, as well, Brian as conspiring to interfere with

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<v Speaker 7>the voting rights of millions of Americans. Now, as plea

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<v Speaker 7>came in his arraignment in which he was advised of

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<v Speaker 7>the counts against him, This is just the latest now,

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<v Speaker 7>but maybe the most serious of the cases lined up

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<v Speaker 7>against him. Three active, one expected in Georgia, not a

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<v Speaker 7>federal case in which voting interference charges are expected to

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<v Speaker 7>drop as well. Bloomberg Kaylee Lyons has been outside the

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<v Speaker 7>courtroom today.

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<v Speaker 8>It should be four cases that the former president is fighting.

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<v Speaker 8>The New York trial set for marshap next year. The

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<v Speaker 8>Florida trial in May of twenty twenty four will have

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<v Speaker 8>to wait for the trials on this one. But Jack Smith,

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<v Speaker 8>a special counsel who's office brought the chargers, said they

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<v Speaker 8>would like it to be speedy.

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<v Speaker 7>Now the judge has set the hearing for the June

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<v Speaker 7>twenty eighth, where Judge Tanya Chutkin intends to set a

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<v Speaker 7>drial date. Judge Shutkin and an Obama nominee who has

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<v Speaker 7>ruled against Trump motions in the past. Now, Trump did

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<v Speaker 7>comment to the media pool as he left of the

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<v Speaker 7>Reagan Airport with the same drumbey.

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<v Speaker 8>This is a persecution of a political opponent.

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<v Speaker 4>This was never supposed to happen in America.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the judge has set the next hearing for the

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<v Speaker 7>twenty eighth. The Republican candidate will heard Bloomberg sound On

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<v Speaker 7>says Trump is no longer running for America.

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<v Speaker 9>He's a bully, he's a liar, and he's only running

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<v Speaker 9>in order to stay out of prison. And what's even

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<v Speaker 9>crazier is that he is using, you know, hard working Americans'

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<v Speaker 9>dollars to fund his illegal bills. Right, He's allegedly a billionaire,

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<v Speaker 9>but he can't pay his own legal bills.

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<v Speaker 7>And to Herd's point, the pro Trump pack reported in

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<v Speaker 7>the week that it had spent most all of its

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<v Speaker 7>campaign fundraising money in legal defense. Two US Navy sailors

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<v Speaker 7>have been arrested on charges of providing sensitive US military

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<v Speaker 7>information to China. The Justice Department calls it a relentless

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<v Speaker 7>effort by China to gain US secrets. It says China

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<v Speaker 7>paid for the information. The US Attorney for the Southern

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<v Speaker 7>District of California, Randy Grossman, says these are very serious charges.

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<v Speaker 5>Statutes reserved for the most serious circumstances involving the passage

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<v Speaker 5>of national defense information intended to harm the United States

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<v Speaker 5>or for the benefit of a foreign power. The fact

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<v Speaker 5>that we've charged it in this case in San Diego

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<v Speaker 5>is a reflection of the seriousness of ways alleged conduct.

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<v Speaker 7>Now both men are Chinese born naturalized US citizens. One,

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<v Speaker 7>it is alleged, was paid thousand dollars for information on

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<v Speaker 7>vulnerabilities of ships, of photos of military hardware, and scores

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<v Speaker 7>of technical manuals. DOJ says this places lives of military

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<v Speaker 7>I'm Ed Baxter, and this is Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis, along with

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<v Speaker 2>Doug Krisner. Ushad Salamat is on TV assignment this hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Our guinst is Carol Pepper, founder and CEO at Pepper International.

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<v Speaker 2>I would note that Amazon is now up more than

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent in late trading after its earnings, and Carol,

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<v Speaker 2>you say a tech boom is coming. I would counter

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<v Speaker 2>that just a little bit, with yields drifting higher like

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<v Speaker 2>this is definitely cutting in to a certain extent on

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<v Speaker 2>some of the gains in big tech. Microsoft, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>even after an impressive earnings report, is down since that period.

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<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts on where tech goes from here.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, well, I think tech has a nice long run

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<v Speaker 10>ahead of it because we've got some very large sacular

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<v Speaker 10>trends that are going to continue to play out. So

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<v Speaker 10>every industry is going to be affected by artificial intelligence

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<v Speaker 10>that it's going to have to do some sort of

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<v Speaker 10>an upgrade. We've also seen that companies corporations have stopped,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, sort of just doing stock buybacks and are

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<v Speaker 10>reinvesting in technology and capital for the companies understanding that

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<v Speaker 10>they need to get ready for this next evolution because

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<v Speaker 10>robots and technology, frankly are going.

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<v Speaker 2>To the gains. I think the question is all the

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<v Speaker 2>gains already in No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 10>We're just at the beginning. This is just starting. We've

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<v Speaker 10>got a ten year run here. You recall I manage

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<v Speaker 10>money for people that have family offices over one hundred

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<v Speaker 10>million dollars. So we're always thinking about what are the

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<v Speaker 10>long term trends that we need to be part of.

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<v Speaker 10>And so this new push on AI, with the fact

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<v Speaker 10>that it's finally getting released and integrated into all kinds

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<v Speaker 10>of businesses, means we're just at the start of a

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<v Speaker 10>new secular trend in technology. The same with cybersecurity. We've

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<v Speaker 10>talked about that. You know that cybersecurity, which is also

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<v Speaker 10>an aspect of technology, will continue to have to be

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<v Speaker 10>a strong area of investment globally for all these corporations.

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<v Speaker 10>So I like to find long term trends that are

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<v Speaker 10>going to last for a long time. And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 10>matter if fields or up or down this month or

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<v Speaker 10>for six months. We're talking about how do you make

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<v Speaker 10>money over ten years. I mean, you look at Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 10>My goodness, if you had invested in that company, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>twenty years ago, you would have been up to almost

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<v Speaker 10>twenty nineteen hundred percent. So you have to look about

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<v Speaker 10>look at that nineteen hundred percent over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian and I were talking earlier, Caroll.

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<v Speaker 10>On your time horizon. Your time horizon is key.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking a moment ago about how the bond

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<v Speaker 1>market seems to be repricing under our scenario for a

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<v Speaker 1>soft landing. I mean that kind of supports a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit the growth story that you seem to be laying out.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't. You're not bothered by the notion that

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<v Speaker 1>we could get a you know, four to twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, on the ten uere but for how.

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<v Speaker 10>Long this is the question. If the soft landing happens right,

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<v Speaker 10>then sentiment shift. Remember also, August is always a funky month.

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<v Speaker 10>Half the traders are on vacation, there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 10>of volume in the market, and small pieces of news

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<v Speaker 10>move things around quickly, and so I think you get

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<v Speaker 10>a better indication of where yields are going to end

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<v Speaker 10>up in another month and a half after September fifteenth.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, you don't really want to go crazy about

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<v Speaker 10>what the market is indicating in August. It's never accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>Carol, I think many would agree with you about the

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<v Speaker 2>future prospects for these companies. There's not really too much

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<v Speaker 2>doubt about that. But the question, and the reason I

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<v Speaker 2>butted in before was the example of Microsoft, is that

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<v Speaker 2>the stock gained so much that investors are sort of

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<v Speaker 2>backing away as they are starting to sort of back

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<v Speaker 2>away a little bit from Apple. So it definitely is

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<v Speaker 2>show me new with new business, with new gains, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the part that maybe just takes some time. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure that these companies are monetizing AI at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>so we have to be concerned about the big gains

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<v Speaker 2>in the stock prize.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, look at Amazon, for example. The problem with these companies.

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<v Speaker 10>A lot of these big companies in technology, they'll have

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<v Speaker 10>a huge run up and then they'll go flat for

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<v Speaker 10>a year or two, and then they might go down

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<v Speaker 10>a bit, and then suddenly they'll have another run. So

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<v Speaker 10>Amazon from last year to now is up almost fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 10>If you had been out of Amazon and not sure

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<v Speaker 10>when the run was going to happen, you would have

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<v Speaker 10>missed that fifty percent gain. People may say, well, fifty percent,

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<v Speaker 10>that's it. It's not going any higher, but again over

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<v Speaker 10>what period of time, And it's very hard to time

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<v Speaker 10>the market.

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